Looks like the DirectTV commandos have struck a blow against the competition.

The fire took NFL-HD, A&E-HD, and History-HD off the air for everybody who carries those channels. According to the press reports in the programming forum, A&E-HD and History-HD are back up but only showing upconverted SD material. Since I'm on Verizon Fios and it does not yet have those two channels, I can't tell from where I sit.

NFL-HD is showing a color bar test pattern. I have it through FIOS.

I have difficulty sometimes getting WJLA's digital signal (channel 7.1 and 7.2, especially). Sometimes it's fine, other times it keeps dropping out. It starts at 80-90% signal strength, then drops to 70% and then goes out. My RCA HDTV tuner then displays the "searching for signal" message. Analog works fine on channel 7. Anybody else having this problem? Doesn't seem to happen on any other local channels.
How long has WJLA-DT been this way for you? I just checked and I can get the DT station just fine, however a check of the signal meter shows 8 bars rather than the normal maxed out 10. Maybe WLJA-DT's digital signal is running at a reduced power?

How far are you from the broadcast tower and what antenna are you using? You may want to tweak the antenna aim to see if that helps.

RCN in the District has just added Golf/Versus HD on channel 180, although there doesn't appear to be much of anything HD about it.

Maybe WLJA-DT's digital signal is running at a reduced power?
Based on varying OTA signal strength levels for numerous stations I get sometimes, that seem to be way beyond what one would expect from changing atmospheric conditions, etc., I ofen wonder if stations may do this on a large scale pervasive fashion to keep down power costs.

I also wonder if there's anything in FCC regs prohibiting periodic reduced power levels (designed apparently only to save a lot of money) and especially after shutdown in 2009. How could this even be detected and enforced if there are such regs? Perhaps this is just such cynical old me, bruised by multicasting, bit-starving, down-rezzing providers that make true HD, as I've said before, just a fond memory!

But I think I do raise a legit question!

RCN in the District has just added Golf/Versus HD on channel 180, although there doesn't appear to be much of anything HD about it.

They will be showing college football in the fall, so I hope that is in HD.

Rich N.

ok for Manassas

if its 860 mhz (don't know but I do know we have 134 digital channels)

135-67=68

134/12=11.2

68-11.2=56.8

24/2.5=9.6

56.8-9.6=47.2

47.2-10=37.2

37.2*2.5=93

Did you mean dibide the total by 2.5? because 93 HD channels without SDV seems high

37.2/2.5=14.88=15 Additional HD Channels

the 15 number makes more sense

even this number means I should see NFL FOOD HGTV A&E and Universal HD in Manassas just like Loudoun and other parts of NoVA




How many analog channels do they have?

Comcast's 750MHz systems -- especially those with >65 analog channels -- tend to be very conservative about the channels they add. Until SDV is implemented, they are saving their bandwidth for more 'desirable' channels. Comcast's 860-1Ghz systems have more capacity to work with, so they are more aggressive in adding new channels.

If on a 860MHz system, take 135 and subtract:

# of analog channels
# of digital channels / 12
# of HD channels / 2.5
10 channels (allocated for VOD)If you are on a 750MHz system, start with 115 and subtract. Some 860MHz systems have 130-132 usable channels instead of 135.

Take the result and multiple it by 2.5 to find the approximate number of new HD channels your system can support without SDV.

RCN in the District has just added Golf/Versus HD on channel 180, although there doesn't appear to be much of anything HD about it.
I was surprised to see Rocky III in SD on this channel last night. That would be something that I would have expected to be in HD.

ok for Manassas

if its 860 mhz (don't know but I do know we have 134 digital channels)A figure of 134 digital channels sounds very low. Did you include all international, premium, sports, and ppv channels? Did you include the digital simulcast (digital versions of analog channels)?

Verizon FiOS in DC/VA/MD has about 380 SD digital channels.

Did you mean dibide the total by 2.5? because 93 HD channels without SDV seems high

37.2/2.5=14.88=15 Additional HD ChannelsNo, I meant multiply.

If you want to be conservative, divide the number of HD channels by 2.0 instead of 2.5, and multiple the balance by 2.0 instead of 2.5 to determine how many HD channels they can add without SDV.

Unless you know that your system is 860MHz (i.e. has 130+ QAM slots), I would assume 750MHz based on the fact that you don't yet have NFL-HD or FOOD-HD.

They will be showing college football in the fall, so I hope that is in HD.

Rich N.


They showed HD football last weekend.

Based on varying OTA signal strength levels for numerous stations I get sometimes, that seem to be way beyond what one would expect from changing atmospheric conditions, etc., I ofen wonder if stations may do this on a large scale pervasive fashion to keep down power costs.

I also wonder if there's anything in FCC regs prohibiting periodic reduced power levels (designed apparently only to save a lot of money) and especially after shutdown in 2009. How could this even be detected and enforced if there are such regs? Perhaps this is just such cynical old me, bruised by multicasting, bit-starving, down-rezzing providers that make true HD, as I've said before, just a fond memory!

But I think I do raise a legit question!

In many cases, the DT transmitter may have two cabinets, and sometimes one may fail for whatever reason, leaving the other one on-air, so power will be down to 50% which, provided isn't long term is permitted. I think 720 hours before a STA is required from the FCC. Sometimes they may drop to 50% if they need to do routine maintenance such as cleaning the filters and the insides for safety reasons. Sometimes, it's a safety feature and power drops if the cooling (such as air-con) struggles with high heat loads such as very hot humid days etc.

I would be surprised if, in this area, power is dropped to keep the electric bill down. :)

They showed HD football last weekend.

Hockey and live golf coverage should be in HD as well.

Hockey and live golf coverage should be in HD as well.

And WEC, bull riding, and some hunting and fishing shows.

and "Deal or No Deal" (26 reasons why)

I would be surprised if, in this area, power is dropped to keep the electric bill down.
If I'm a station manager & naturally concerned about cost efficiency, what would it hurt to cut the digital power in half say every other night for a few hours or say periodically for 5 or 6 evenings running, particularly given two signals?? I could easily save what, several thousand dollars a month. The only ones affected in a bad way, given the present system, might be a couple of people out in Martinsburg, one south of Fredericksburg and me. :)

It would be difficult to monitor this for any enforcement action even if against regulations; and you can't blame the concern over costs. Kind of a variation on Murphy's Law: Anything that can be done to save money, will be done!

If this is being done on any systematic basis, I would not be happy! But given the awful cost pressures stations must face, I would have to say c'est la vie!

I didn't count music choice and ppv channels but everything else. i'll get back to you.

before the upgrade we had 10 hd and 15 digital channels....

A figure of 134 digital channels sounds very low. Did you include all international, premium, sports, and ppv channels? Did you include the digital simulcast (digital versions of analog channels)?

Verizon FiOS in DC/VA/MD has about 380 SD digital channels.

No, I meant multiply.

If you want to be conservative, divide the number of HD channels by 2.0 instead of 2.5, and multiple the balance by 2.0 instead of 2.5 to determine how many HD channels they can add without SDV.

Unless you know that your system is 860MHz (i.e. has 130+ QAM slots), I would assume 750MHz based on the fact that you don't yet have NFL-HD or FOOD-HD.

and "Deal or No Deal" (26 reasons why)Lindsay Schoneweis (#4) has left :( replaced by Keltie Martin...

Comcast is launching Food Network HD and TBS HD on 10/1 in Balt City, Balt County, Harford, Howard and Carroll Co's.

Was told there is more coming before year end as well but don't know details.

GoIrish
(beat the even more hapless Wolverines)

Comcast is launching Food Network HD and TBS HD on 10/1 in Balt City, Balt County, Harford, Howard and Carroll Co's.

Was told there is more coming before year end as well but don't know details.

GoIrish
(beat the even more hapless Wolverines)

Woohoo!

I had gotten a message (again) that WUTB would be added but it didn't happen. The'yre still only showing upconverted SD anyway.

Damn, you guys are lucky...Comcast in Montclair, VA (Prince William County) still doesn't have Universal HD (wasn't able to watch US Open), NFL Network HD (hopefully by Thanksgiving?), A&E HD, HGTV HD, Food Network HD...I'm really hoping for TBS HD before the MLB playoffs...

Comcast is launching A&E HD on 9/18 here in the District.........I just got the message from my HD converter box this morning when i woke up.

I had forgotten that I emailed MPT about their change and lack of HD (I looked and it was 8/24 when I sent the email. I got an answer yesterday:
Thank you for watching and supporting MPT!



Please be advised that we are in the process of transitioning to a full prime time schedule of HD programming on our main channel by February of 2009 when all television stations switch from analog to digital broadcast. In the interim, we will broadcast HD programs as they become increasingly more available. For instance, PBS’ fall lineup will include many new HD programs. Eventually, they and we will provide all prime time HD programming. This transition period is similar to the one television experienced as it moved from black and white to color. We made the decision to stop broadcasting the PBS HD service because the number of programs available in that format were limited and resulted in a high frequency of repetition. In essence, it was like watching a continuous loop of the same offerings. Our goal is to give our viewers the opportunity to see their favorite PBS prime time programming in HD during this transition as PBS is now providing more of its schedule in this format.



For your interest, more information on our MPT Networks Digital Broadcasting Services can be found here: http://www.mpt.org/about/coverage.cfm.



We appreciate your patience in awaiting a reply.



Juliana Eagan

Audience/Viewer Services

Maryland Public Television

11767 Owings Mills Blvd

Owings Mills, MD 21117

(410) 581-4126

jeagan@mail.mpt.org

Also, at least on my Directv service, they haven't changed the schedule for 67.2 in the guide. It still has the schedule from before they switched everything around.

I had forgotten that I emailed MPT about their change and lack of HD (I looked and it was 8/24 when I sent the email. I got an answer yesterday:
Thank you for watching and supporting MPT!



Please be advised that we are in the process of transitioning to a full prime time schedule of HD programming on our main channel by February of 2009 when all television stations switch from analog to digital broadcast. In the interim, we will broadcast HD programs as they become increasingly more available. For instance, PBS’ fall lineup will include many new HD programs. Eventually, they and we will provide all prime time HD programming. This transition period is similar to the one television experienced as it moved from black and white to color. We made the decision to stop broadcasting the PBS HD service because the number of programs available in that format were limited and resulted in a high frequency of repetition. In essence, it was like watching a continuous loop of the same offerings. Our goal is to give our viewers the opportunity to see their favorite PBS prime time programming in HD during this transition as PBS is now providing more of its schedule in this format.



For your interest, more information on our MPT Networks Digital Broadcasting Services can be found here: http://www.mpt.org/about/coverage.cfm.



We appreciate your patience in awaiting a reply.



Juliana Eagan

Audience/Viewer Services

Maryland Public Television

11767 Owings Mills Blvd

Owings Mills, MD 21117

(410) 581-4126

jeagan@mail.mpt.org

Also, at least on my Directv service, they haven't changed the schedule for 67.2 in the guide. It still has the schedule from before they switched everything around.

I guess it took that long to generate a response to us. I got the exact same message today from my complaint several weeks ago. The biggest problem is that now we have to watch pledge drives to see PBS HD shows. Thank heavens for DVRs.

Rich N.

Comcast is launching Food Network HD and TBS HD on 10/1 in Balt City, Balt County, Harford, Howard and Carroll Co's.

Was told there is more coming before year end as well but don't know details.

GoIrish
(beat the even more hapless Wolverines)

Great news! Thanks for the update. I was wondering who would be carrying TBS-HD. Now if they can upgrade their HD offerings like TNT-HD did it will be great.

Rich N.
(Go Cal, get some defense)

I guess it took that long to generate a response to us. I got the exact same message today from my complaint several weeks ago. The biggest problem is that now we have to watch pledge drives to see PBS HD shows. Thank heavens for DVRs.

Rich N.The PBS outlet in SE VA has invested in HD recording equipment and broadcasts various show on a 24/7 basis...

Messages on the box this morning on Comcast DC saying that they're adding A&E HD on Sept. 18 on channel 223 (I think; deleted too fast); and will also be adding (on the 18th, too?) the Pentagon Channel on 185.

I gotta pay more attention to what I read--I was so happy to finally be getting *something* new that I missed the details :).

WRC is running a "Buyer's Guide to HDTV" special tonight at 6.
Slim chance, but maybe this could cooincide with an HDTV announcement for their news?

WRC is running a "Buyer's Guide to HDTV" special tonight at 6.

Which ironically, will not be broadcast in HD.

I'm surprised that WRC hasn't gotten their act together with news in HD. Their facilites housed WHD-TV, which was the very first experimental HD station, and I figured this would have given them a leg up.

HELP PLEASE!

I live in Columbia in a townhouse. I am planning to install an antenna this weekend to try and pull in DC HD channels most notably WTTG. I am frustrated with the Comcast HD because they overlook or ignore the Redskins fan base in this area.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/mad.gif I will be installing in an attic and wanted to ask if anyone has had any success in this area.

I am heading out to Lowes this weekend to purchase a antenna mount and some RG-6 cable. Do any of you think I may need to get an amplifier?
I am about 18 miles from DC in the 21046 zip code. Are there any higher quality connectors etc that I should buy. I am new to this and appreciate any suggestions.

BTW I can't put the antenna on the roof so that suggestion wont help.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/redface.gif

Thanks

Bakerman

HELP PLEASE!

I live in Columbia in a townhouse. I am planning to install an antenna this weekend to try and pull in DC HD channels most notably WTTG. I am frustrated with the Comcast HD because they overlook or ignore the Redskins fan base in this area.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/mad.gif I will be installing in an attic and wanted to ask if anyone has had any success in this area.

I am heading out to Lowes this weekend to purchase a antenna mount and some RG-6 cable. Do any of you think I may need to get an amplifier?
I am about 18 miles from DC in the 21046 zip code. Are there any higher quality connectors etc that I should buy. I am new to this and appreciate any suggestions.

BTW I can't put the antenna on the roof so that suggestion wont help.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/redface.gif

Thanks

Bakerman

Columbia and north you're supposed to be a Ravens fan. :D

You should be ok with an attic mount. I would hold off on the amp for now and see what you can pull in without it.

Their facilites housed WHD-TV, which was the very first experimental HD station, and I figured this would have given them a leg up.

Ahhh...so that's why their sign on Nebraska Ave NW says "WHD-TV" on it. I've always wondered.

Messages on the box this morning on Comcast DC saying that they're adding A&E HD on Sept. 18 on channel 223

Finally! :)

Columbia and north you're supposed to be a Ravens fan. :D

You should be ok with an attic mount. I would hold off on the amp for now and see what you can pull in without it.


Well I do live in South Columbia LOL

Finally! :)

Yeah, but I wanted Food or HGTV. So I'm still not satisfied!

Yeah, but I wanted Food or HGTV. So I'm still not satisfied!

Looks like they're adding Food HD and TBS HD in B'more area systems soon, maybe they're not so far off for us :)

I live in Columbia in a townhouse. I am planning to install an antenna this weekend to try and pull in DC HD channels most notably WTTG. I am frustrated with the Comcast HD because they overlook or ignore the Redskins fan base in this area.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/mad.gif I will be installing in an attic and wanted to ask if anyone has had any success in this area.

I am heading out to Lowes this weekend to purchase a antenna mount and some RG-6 cable. Do any of you think I may need to get an amplifier?
I am about 18 miles from DC in the 21046 zip code.
First, the basics. All of the stations in DC and Baltimore are currently digitally broadcasting on UHF. After the analog shutdown in February, 2009, WJLA-DT ABC 7, WUSA-DT CBS 9 in DC, WBAL-DT NBC 11, WJZ-DT CBS 13 in Baltimore will be changing their digital broadcast from UHF to their current upper VHF (7 to 13) analog channel. The low VHF (2 to 6) stations will stay at UHF.

Your zip code places you about 20 miles, 230° from the DC stations; ~15 miles, 54° from the most of the Baltimore stations. You have the two cities in almost exactly opposite directions so you want an antenna with a strong backlobe to pick up stations in the opposite direction. My recommendation is a Channel Master 4221 4 Bay bowtie UHF antenna. It is a good antenna for this region for stations scattered in azimuth. You are close enough that I expect the CM 4221 will get the upper VHF digital stations in 2009. Aim the CM 4221 at the more distant DC stations, it should get the Baltimore stations from the backlobe.

At this close, you should hold off on getting a pre-amp unless you have a very long cable run. I can get three of the Baltimore stations at 43 miles fine using a CM 4221 in my townhouse attic without a pre-amp along with the DC stations 50° off at 16 miles and others. I have local obstructions and a ridge line in the direction of Baltimore, so I have a pre-amp to get the weaker distant stations. You are much closer, so you probably don't need a pre-amp.

The mounting equipment and RG-6 cables at Lowes are fine. You can get the CM 4221 on-line at solidsignal.com or warrenelectronics.com. Also,
check http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html for antenna basics and charts for various antennas including the CM 4221.

Well I do live in South Columbia LOL

Yeah, you'll be fine with a CM 4221. I get all of the DC stations just fine with a 4221 sitting on the living room floor in the corner living just over in Odenton (21113).

I mentioned to the spouse that we're getting A&E HD in the District. Response?

> I've always wondered about Bill Curtis's pores.

True conversation today (may be paraphrased):

Caller: Hi, I live in Columbia, and I'm a big Redskins fan, but (the cable company) doesn't carry the Washington channels in HD here.

Me: Yes... How can I help you?

Caller: Well, (the cable company) told me to call you about it.

Me: Uh... I'm not really sure what you're asking

Caller: Well, I was wondering if you were going to do something about it

Me: Um... Well, you're calling a station in Baltimore. (The cable company) already carries our station in HD in Howard County.... If I were you though, since you live in between Baltimore and Washington, I'd hook an antenna up to your HD TV, and you would be able to pick up all of the HD network channels from both cities! For free!

Caller: Oh. Can you do that? I didn't think televisions used antennas any more...?

Me: Oh, sure. I live in Laurel, and I put an antenna up on my chimney, and I get the HD channels from both cities without any problem

Caller: So it's on the outside of your house? You don't have to hook it up to the TV?

Me: Well, sure. There's a cable run between the antenna and the TV, but a lot of people get good reception with an antenna on top of their TV. It depends on your location though - how many trees are around your house, if you're down in a low area, stuff like that.

Caller: Well... I'd only get the HD channels from the local stations, right? I think I'll just keep the cable

Me: O....K.... Well, to answer your question as much as I can, usually the cable company will only carry the HD channels from one city, and in your case, since you're north of the Patuxent River, you will probably only get the Baltimore ones

Caller: Oh. OK. Thanks (click)

The truth hurts. hehe. Should have pointed him here. ;)

I don't know how many people i run into that are amazed that you can get TV signals out of the air. And some of these people are older than me. I remember in the early 70's going outside to rotate the antenna on the house depending on whether we were watching a DC station or a Baltimore station to get the best reception.
I guess whats old is new again.

210 WJLA-HD (ABC) News & Info
211 WRC-HD (NBC) News & Info
212 WUSA-HD (CBS) News & Info
213 WTTG-HD (Fox) News & Info
214 WDCW-HD (CW) Children & Family
215 WDCA HD Children & Family
220 WETA-HD (PBS) Children & Family
223 A&E HD High-Definition TV
224 Nat'l Geographic HD High-Definition TV
225 Discovery HD Children & Family
226 MOJO Movies
228 HBO HD Movies
229 MHD Music
230 HDSE Pay-Per-View
233 Cinemax HD Movies
238 Showtime HD Movies
248 Starz! HD Movies
249 TNT HD
250 Universal HD
251 Comcast SportsNet HD Sports
252 ESPN HD Sports
253 ESPN 2 HD High-Definition TV
254 Versus/Golf HD High-Definition TV
261 ESPNews Sports
262 FCS - Atlantic Sports
263 FCS - Central Sports
264 FCS - Pacific

as you see history food and TBS are MIA

I had forgotten that I emailed MPT about their change and lack of HD (I looked and it was 8/24 when I sent the email. I got an answer yesterday:
Thank you for watching and supporting MPT!



Please be advised that we are in the process of transitioning to a full prime time schedule of HD programming on our main channel by February of 2009 when all television stations switch from analog to digital broadcast. In the interim, we will broadcast HD programs as they become increasingly more available. For instance, PBS’ fall lineup will include many new HD programs. Eventually, they and we will provide all prime time HD programming. This transition period is similar to the one television experienced as it moved from black and white to color. We made the decision to stop broadcasting the PBS HD service because the number of programs available in that format were limited and resulted in a high frequency of repetition. In essence, it was like watching a continuous loop of the same offerings. Our goal is to give our viewers the opportunity to see their favorite PBS prime time programming in HD during this transition as PBS is now providing more of its schedule in this format.

Also, at least on my Directv service, they haven't changed the schedule for 67.2 in the guide. It still has the schedule from before they switched everything around.

This response from MPT is not very satisfying. In the past month, every "HD" program listed in their schedule that I've sampled has been telecast in SD. Until a month ago, MPT had many HD programs and series that WETA-HD did not. Now I just settle for what is on WETA-HD. :(

210 WJLA-HD (ABC) News & Info
211 WRC-HD (NBC) News & Info
212 WUSA-HD (CBS) News & Info
213 WTTG-HD (Fox) News & Info
214 WDCW-HD (CW) Children & Family
215 WDCA HD Children & Family
220 WETA-HD (PBS) Children & Family
223 A&E HD High-Definition TV
224 Nat'l Geographic HD High-Definition TV
225 Discovery HD Children & Family
226 MOJO Movies
228 HBO HD Movies
229 MHD Music
230 HDSE Pay-Per-View
233 Cinemax HD Movies
238 Showtime HD Movies
248 Starz! HD Movies
249 TNT HD
250 Universal HD
251 Comcast SportsNet HD Sports
252 ESPN HD Sports
253 ESPN 2 HD High-Definition TV
254 Versus/Golf HD High-Definition TV
261 ESPNews Sports
262 FCS - Atlantic Sports
263 FCS - Central Sports
264 FCS - Pacific

as you see history food and TBS are MIA

Not trying to pick on you, but this is a bit of FUD. Comcast is so fractured that you really can't post something like this without stating your exact location.

I've been going round and round with them about getting Universal HD (250) in my area (Reston, VA) - most of the CSRs don't even know the channel exists, even though it is available 12 miles away in Alexandria AND my local lineup shows nothing at 250... it's bizarre

I wonder why ESPN News is listed with those HD channels. While there is going to be a ESPN News in HD, I'm pretty sure its one of those "not until 2008" channels.

Not trying to pick on you, but this is a bit of FUD. Comcast is so fractured that you really can't post something like this without stating your exact location.

That's the exact channel lineup I have (223 is launching on 9/18) in Comcast of the District.

And I spent a lot of money on an antenna (4228) and amp to pull in MPT HD so I wouldn't have to watch WETA HD. Oh well...back to macroblocking hell. :(

.....Until a month ago, MPT had many HD programs and series that WETA-HD did not. Now I just settle for what is on WETA-HD. :(

I wonder why ESPN News is listed with those HD channels. While there is going to be a ESPN News in HD, I'm pretty sure its one of those "not until 2008" channels.

The last four are SD channels.

I'm a dummy head.

Not trying to pick on you, but this is a bit of FUD. Comcast is so fractured that you really can't post something like this without stating your exact location.

I've been going round and round with them about getting Universal HD (250) in my area (Reston, VA) - most of the CSRs don't even know the channel exists, even though it is available 12 miles away in Alexandria AND my local lineup shows nothing at 250... it's bizarre

Speqtre, I'm in the same boat as you, I live in Montclair, VA...channel 250 is not in use in my channel lineup...perhaps more HD channels will be added once the MLB season is over and the number of channels currently being used for the MLB Extra Innings package is reduced?

Comcast just sent a message about the two new channels coming on 10/1. Food HD will be on channel 231 and TBS HD on channel 232.

How many analog channels do they have?

Comcast's 750MHz systems -- especially those with >65 analog channels -- tend to be very conservative about the channels they add. Until SDV is implemented, they are saving their bandwidth for more 'desirable' channels. Comcast's 860-1Ghz systems have more capacity to work with, so they are more aggressive in adding new channels.

If on a 860MHz system, take 135 and subtract:

# of analog channels
# of digital channels / 12
# of HD channels / 2.5
10 channels (allocated for VOD)If you are on a 750MHz system, start with 115 and subtract. Some 860MHz systems have 130-132 usable channels instead of 135.

Take the result and multiple it by 2.5 to find the approximate number of new HD channels your system can support without SDV.

For Baltimore:

135
-71
-(305/12)
-(24/2.5)
-10
=19
x2.5
=47 new HD channels.

Only two announced so far.

And I spent a lot of money on an antenna (4228) and amp to pull in MPT HD so I wouldn't have to watch WETA HD. Oh well...back to macroblocking hell.


Originally Posted by dneily
.....Until a month ago, MPT had many HD programs and series that WETA-HD did not. Now I just settle for what is on WETA-HD.

$0 Emailed both of these HD throwbacks and told them of my pledge for 2007 and beyond. Anyone know of any HD plans for WHUT or WVPT

Hi all,

I'm not sure if the message belongs in here. I'm in DC, and my old comcast dvr box (dual tuner with HD), 6412 (not sure which phase), died on me. Well, Comcast came out a couple of days ago to replace it. I wasn't there, but my girlfriend was. Comcast installed a 6412 Phase III. For some reason, the HD picture now doesn't look quite as bright or sharp compared to my old box. BTW, the replacement box that Comcast installed was previously used (it has scratches and dents on it). I've checked the component connections, and all looks good. Is it maybe all in my mind, or could it be the used box that's giving me a less sharp/bright picture?

Do you think Comcast will come out to give me a "new" box if I explain the situation?

Any advice/input would be appreciated. Thanks!

I don't know about a new box, but they will definitely replace it if you want.

Steelers game on WUSA over D* is looking just as blocky and having the same garbage as last week's Skins game. What's up at CBS these days!?

-Mike

steelers game looks perfect on WJZ HD via Fios...

anyone having a problem with comcast CBS-HD dropping on them? for the past three days I'll get 30 secs of picture than black, picture than black.

WJZ or WUSA?

Provider?

Location?

I haven't seen any problems here with WJZ on Comcast (Anne Arundel) or WUSA (OTA from 21113).

anyone having a problem with comcast CBS-HD dropping on them? for the past three days I'll get 30 secs of picture than black, picture than black.

I am having the same problem in Baltimore City...but only on my cablecard.
My Motorola HD STB's are fine.

I figured my cablecard must be the problem, but now I'm not so sure.

Where are you and is your problem occuring with a cable card? or STB?:confused:

I am having the same problem in Baltimore City...but only on my cablecard.
My Motorola HD STB's are fine.

I figured my cablecard must be the problem, but now I'm not so sure.

Where are you and is your problem occuring with a cable card? or STB?:confused:

balt city and yes i do have the cablecard. i verified with two other owners of STB's in my region and they didn't have any problems whatsoever.

However i pulled the cablecard from my set and i STILL experienced the problem after running a QAM scan. Here's the best part though. I called comcast to inquire if they were having trouble with CBS HD. the young woman named veronica stated that none o f my questions were important since i didn't have the HD rate codes in the first place so i shouldn't have been getting any hD feeds. i had to explain to her that i was a magical being and i can pull free HD feeds from NBC, Fox, etc. ota to which she simply replied no you can't. now after i waded thru her stupidity and reasked my question about CBS-HD she simply replied, no we're not having a problem and hung up on me.

I think its time to give direct teevee a call

anyone having a problem with comcast CBS-HD dropping on them? for the past three days I'll get 30 secs of picture than black, picture than black.
Comcast Balto County (west side) has been delivering WJZ-HD fairly well; for me, they keep losing all that's been assigned to ch "92": WMAR-HD, WBAL-HD, and each of their weather channels (aka 2.1, 11.1, and 11.2 'twice', first for MAR wx then BAL/NBC wx). If the ch 92 content appears at all, it's rife with lost audio and blocky vid.
Of course, calling BombCast would be an exercise in futility...

So how did MNF look on WDCA?

Looked just like it did on ESPN-HD.

So how did MNF look on WDCA?

Only tuned in for a short time, however, surprisingly it looked good. I swithched back and forth between 20 and ESPN HD and really didn't notice any difference in quality.

The ESPN siglum (for lack of a better word) was on the bottom of the screen on WDCA as well, perhaps this was known to everyone else, however, I was not expecting it!!

What's up with WDCA? Two and a half men repeats in HD and Football in HD (I'm sure this was "MY..", are they trying to change their reputation?

Looked just like it did on ESPN-HD.

Only stereo on WDCA though. Not 5.1 like ESPN.

What's up with WDCA? Two and a half men repeats in HD and Football in HD (I'm sure this was "MY..", are they trying to change their reputation?
You are getting your local channels confused. Two and a half Men is airing in HD on WDCW-DT CW 50, not WDCA-DT My 20. Still, that WDCA-DT 20 aired the Redskins game in HD is a good sign in that they went to the trouble of getting a HD feed from ESPN which may have required some work on WDCA's part. With both ESPN-HD and WDCA-DT being 720p channels, that may have made it easier. The picture quality for WDCA-DT 20 via Verizon & OTA versus ESPN-HD on Verizon looked the same.

WDCA-DT 20 is the DC broadcast station for the Nats games. If MASN offers a HD feed next year, this could be a indication that WDCA-DT will be to able show the limited number of Nats games they air in HD as well.

It would be nice if WDCA would broadcast college football in HD, but I have a feeling that Raycom isn't even producing the games in HD. Picture quality on those games has been horrible over the past few Saturdays.

I'm with Montgomery County Cable.

I'm currently using the Motorola DCT6412 III. Since I've had this STB for years now, I was wondering if there are better ones that I should swap this for.

Can you give a ranking of current HD DVRs (best to worst) so that I can check with my local Comcast office to see what they have?

You are getting your local channels confused. Two and a half Men is airing in HD on WDCW-DT CW 50, not WDCA-DT My 20.

Oops!! You're right, sorry about that!!

Will check out when I get home but according to Comcast.com A&E-HD will be 223, NFL HD will be 246 and NHL channel will be 276.
Oh, WJLA Local Point on 205
This is Alexandria/Arlington Comcast system.

Looked quickly at Comcast.com's lineup for DC (20007), and it looks like the following were added today:

106 Fox Business Network (not launching until 10/15 I thought)
203 WUSA 9 Live
205 WJLA Local Point
223 A&E HD

And the following were moved:

192 MHz 2 Russian TV
193 MHz 3 France 24
196 MHz NHK World TV
198 WQLW-LP

No mention of the Pentagon channel that was supposedly to launch on 185. I'll check the lineup on my TiVo HD when I get home and see if anything is different.

Okay men,

Set up my antenna in the attic and got most of the stations in DC and Baltimore in clear as day. The only station I can't get is 4.1 Digital. But that's okay all I really wanted was 5.1 and 9.1 so I am very pleased.

Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS 2-0!:D

Looked quickly at Comcast.com's lineup for DC (20007), and it looks like the following were added today:

106 Fox Business Network (not launching until 10/15 I thought)
203 WUSA 9 Live
205 WJLA Local Point
223 A&E HD

And the following were moved:

192 MHz 2 Russian TV
193 MHz 3 France 24
196 MHz NHK World TV
198 WQLW-LP

No mention of the Pentagon channel that was supposedly to launch on 185. I'll check the lineup on my TiVo HD when I get home and see if anything is different.

BAH! Nothing on the system. I figured as much since it seems the update their lineup online in advance.

Yeah, you'll be fine with a CM 4221. I get all of the DC stations just fine with a 4221 sitting on the living room floor in the corner living just over in Odenton (21113).

to really pull those stations in buy a Motorola signal booster at Circuit City, I live in Manassas and with that booster I can pull in every HD OTA with a basic terk indoor antenna

So how did MNF look on WDCA?
Looked nice to me. I recently dropped FiOS TV, so I only have OTA for now. I was very suprised to get the game in HD.

Did WJZ show the Ravens game last week in HD?

As for Two and a Half Men, I was very suprised to find that show in HD. Come today, I read back and it's a first here. Pretty cool stuff. Heck, even PBR was in HD on Sunday. :D

I don't know how many people i run into that are amazed that you can get TV signals out of the air. And some of these people are older than me. I remember in the early 70's going outside to rotate the antenna on the house depending on whether we were watching a DC station or a Baltimore station to get the best reception.
I guess whats old is new again.
Very true. I had my parents over this weekend, and showed them our new OTA tuner (now that we dropped Vz). It's the new (-ish) Samsung 5th gen with EPG. Even though my parents used to get OTA before cable, they insisted I had to be paying something for the guide info. Of course I'm not, but they don't seem to understand it's all from the OTA antenna.

-John

For Baltimore:

135
-71
-(305/12)
-(24/2.5)
-10
=19
x2.5
=47 new HD channels.

Only two announced so far.

what counts for 305 digital channels? Music Choice, PPV? I am trying to figure this out for Manassas, thanks

Just got home and looked; man is Comcast.com borked.

The only thing that changed (as far as I can tell) is A&E HD on 223 (yay, finally) and the Pentagon channel on 185.

106 is Bloomberg, not Fox Business; the MHz channels are still in the 180s; there's no Local Point or WUSA Doppler; and WQAW-LP is on 209.

to really pull those stations in buy a Motorola signal booster at Circuit City, I live in Manassas and with that booster I can pull in every HD OTA with a basic terk indoor antenna
Caveat emptor! YMMV.

what counts for 305 digital channels? Music Choice, PPV? I am trying to figure this out for Manassas, thanks

I counted all non-hd channels.

How long has WJLA-DT been this way for you? I just checked and I can get the DT station just fine, however a check of the signal meter shows 8 bars rather than the normal maxed out 10. Maybe WLJA-DT's digital signal is running at a reduced power?

How far are you from the broadcast tower and what antenna are you using? You may want to tweak the antenna aim to see if that helps.

Sorry, I haven't logged in for a few days.
The answer to your question is: it's been happening for a couple of weeks now. I believe I'm about 8 miles from the broadcast tower (I live in Falls Church and the tower is in DC). The antenna aim might be difficult; it's on the roof and besides, the antenna aim was fine when it was first installed. It also doesn't seem to be a problem on the other HD channels (except Univisión, for some reason, which is fine in SD but doesn't come in on HD).

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the satellite commercial with Peyton Manning is cut with game footage of such horrendous quality?

Yeah, that makes me want to drop cable.

The antenna aim might be difficult; it's on the roof and besides, the antenna aim was fine when it was first installed. It also doesn't seem to be a problem on the other HD channels (except Univisión, for some reason, which is fine in SD but doesn't come in on HD).Univisión, best I know, doesn't offer any HD shows, yet.

The answer to your question is: it's been happening for a couple of weeks now. I believe I'm about 8 miles from the broadcast tower (I live in Falls Church and the tower is in DC). The antenna aim might be difficult; it's on the roof and besides, the antenna aim was fine when it was first installed. It also doesn't seem to be a problem on the other HD channels (except Univisión, for some reason, which is fine in SD but doesn't come in on HD).
The antenna aim may have been shifted or twisted a bit by the wind. You should be able to get WJLA-DT without difficulty from only 8 miles out. Double check the antenna aim and the cabling.

As for WFDC-DT Univision 14, it is a 480i SD broadcast channel, not HD. Somewhat surprising that with only 1 SD sub-channel, the network has not added additional SD sub-channels for additional programming or infomercials, but they haven't.

The antenna aim may have been shifted or twisted a bit by the wind. You should be able to get WJLA-DT without difficulty from only 8 miles out. Double check the antenna aim and the cabling.

As for WFDC-DT Univision 14, it is a 480i SD broadcast channel, not HD. Somewhat surprising that with only 1 SD sub-channel, the network has not added additional SD sub-channels for additional programming or infomercials, but they haven't.

Thanks a lot. Any advice for a novice who hasn't tried adjusting an antenna before? (the guy from Fairfax Antenna did the actual install). Is it just "trial and error"? Also, I can get Univisión on channel 14.1 on one TV, but not the other. It may not actually be in HD, but there is a broadcast on 14.1 (including Dolby Digital 5.1).

I wanted to ask if anyone is in Arlington using an indoor HD indoor antenna what are they using and how is it working out?

Also I am a little confused, I read that VHF is channel 14-70 and UHF is 2-13 but then I read it was just the oposite. The antenna I currently have is only picking up channels 15 and up.

Thank you

VHF is 2-13 UHF is 14-70

Thanks a lot. Any advice for a novice who hasn't tried adjusting an antenna before? (the guy from Fairfax Antenna did the actual install). Is it just "trial and error"? Also, I can get Univisión on channel 14.1 on one TV, but not the other. It may not actually be in HD, but there is a broadcast on 14.1 (including Dolby Digital 5.1).
Yes, it is trial and error. If you can get to the antenna without falling off the ladder or roof, shift the aim just several degrees to the left and right and see if that helps. But I also suggest that you check the co-axial cable connectors that you can reach before climbing up on the roof. Unscrew the connectors that are not weather sealed, look for any moisture, maybe even clean it (carefully) with tissue paper, then reconnect it. This also goes for the connector to the back of the TV or STB. We were just in summer with high humidity, so it is possible that moisture has gotten into a connector somewhere along the run.

WFDC-DT Univision 14 is running at 325 kW on UHF 15 so it is a pretty strong signal. If your second TV has an ATSC tuner, you should check to see what it says for 15.1 if it allows a manual digital channel entry.

I wanted to ask if anyone is in Arlington using an indoor HD indoor antenna what are they using and how is it working out?

Also I am a little confused, I read that VHF is channel 14-70 and UHF is 2-13 but then I read it was just the oposite. The antenna I currently have is only picking up channels 15 and up.
To expand on the answer, TV broadcasting is broken into three bands. Low VHF 2 to 6 (54 MHz to 88 MHz), upper VHF 7 to 13 (174 MHz to 216 MHz), and UHF 14 to 69 (470 MHz to 806 MHz). At this time, all of the digital stations in DC and Baltimore are broadcasting on UHF, so a UHF antenna will do. However, WJLA-DT 7 and WUSA-DT 9 will be switching to their digital channel from UHF to their current upper VHF analog channel in February, 2009 after the analog shutdown. So in 2009, an antenna which can get upper VHF will be needed. Fortunately many larger UHF antennas can pick up upper VHF ok. See http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html for a lot of info on antennas.

If you are looking for a good indoor antenna from Arlington, the Silver Sensor UHF antenna sold under the Philips, Terk, and Zenith name is a good one to try. You could also try the old basic table top antenna with VHF rabbit ears and a UHF loop. Be careful of the overpriced small antennas with built-in amplifiers that Best Buy and Circuit City push these days. These antennas are usually poorer performers than larger unamplified "real" antennas such as a two or four bay bowtie that go for 1/3 to 1/2 the price.

To get the digital broadcast stations, you need a TV or STB with an ATSC tuner. You must do a digital channel scan so it can find the stations on their actual broadcast channel which are then mapped to the analog channel # on the display such as 4-1, 7-1, and their sub-channels. See the 1st post of this thread for a list of the stations and their digital sub-channels. Good luck!

Cox will add Discovery Channel HD, TLC HD, Animal Planet HD, Science Channel HD.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=910645

To expand on the answer, TV broadcasting is broken into three bands. Low VHF 2 to 6 (54 MHz to 88 MHz), upper VHF 7 to 13 (174 MHz to 216 MHz), and UHF 14 to 69 (470 MHz to 806 MHz). At this time, all of the digital stations in DC and Baltimore are broadcasting on UHF, so a UHF antenna will do. However, WJLA-DT 7 and WUSA-DT 9 will be switching to their digital channel from UHF to their current upper VHF analog channel in February, 2009 after the analog shutdown. So in 2009, an antenna which can get upper VHF will be needed. Fortunately many larger UHF antennas can pick up upper VHF ok. See http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html for a lot of info on antennas.

If you are looking for a good indoor antenna from Arlington, the Silver Sensor UHF antenna sold under the Philips, Terk, and Zenith name is a good one to try. You could also try the old basic table top antenna with VHF rabbit ears and a UHF loop. Be careful of the overpriced small antennas with built-in amplifiers that Best Buy and Circuit City push these days. These antennas are usually poorer performers than larger unamplified "real" antennas such as a two or four bay bowtie that go for 1/3 to 1/2 the price.

To get the digital broadcast stations, you need a TV or STB with an ATSC tuner. You must do a digital channel scan so it can find the stations on their actual broadcast channel which are then mapped to the analog channel # on the display such as 4-1, 7-1, and their sub-channels. See the 1st post of this thread for a list of the stations and their digital sub-channels. Good luck!


I just put a HDTV WONDER from ATI in my computer, using in bedroom, and it has ATSC tuner. I can only pick up channels 15 and up right now, no ABC, CBS, NBS or Fox for some reason. Wondering if the buildings in my area are blocking signal.

I just put a HDTV WONDER from ATI in my computer, using in bedroom, and it has ATSC tuner. I can only pick up channels 15 and up right now, no ABC, CBS, NBS or Fox for some reason. Wondering if the buildings in my area are blocking signal.
The DC broadcast stations are all digitally broadcasting on UHF channels, so your UHF antenna should get them. Digital broadcasting is currently done on a different channel from the analog and is remapped by the ATSC tuner to display the analog channel number. For example, WRC-DT NBC 4 is on UHF 48, WTTG-DT Fox 5 is on UHF 36, WJLA-DT ABC 7 is on UHF 38, WUSA-DT CBS 9 is on UHF 34. Check the 1st post of this thread for a complete list of the Baltimore & DC stations and their current actual digital broadcast channel.

You don't say if you have tried anything with the antenna. Have you aimed it at NW DC, moved it to a different location, tried it in a window, moved it to a different room with less obstruction in the direction to the broadcast towers? You should also double check the settings for the ATI tuner.

The DC broadcast stations are all digitally broadcasting on UHF channels, so your UHF antenna should get them. Digital broadcasting is currently done on a different channel from the analog and is remapped by the ATSC tuner to display the analog channel number. For example, WRC-DT NBC 4 is on UHF 48, WTTG-DT Fox 5 is on UHF 36, WJLA-DT ABC 7 is on UHF 38, WUSA-DT CBS 9 is on UHF 34. Check the 1st post of this thread for a complete list of the Baltimore & DC stations and their current actual digital broadcast channel.

You don't say if you have tried anything with the antenna. Have you aimed it at NW DC, moved it to a different location, tried it in a window, moved it to a different room with less obstruction in the direction to the broadcast towers? You should also double check the settings for the ATI tuner.

I have move the antenna all around, i set the computer up so that I could extend the antenna out to the apartment porch and aimied it every which way and pick up no ABC, CBS, Fox, etc...just MHZ channels, PBS WETA-DT, qubo and ionW

Almost forgot: CW Washington still on track for January for DirecTV.

Dear Stephen,

Thank you for contacting us! We are currently working with DirecTV now
and should be in HD by January 2008.

We hope you continue to enjoy the CW Washington!

Sincerely,
Tanya
Programming

I note that TitanTV and Zap2it are NOT showing the Giants at Redskins game this weekend as being broadcast in HD on WTTG FOX 5. Is this really so?

I note that TitanTV and Zap2it are NOT showing the Giants at Redskins game this weekend as being broadcast in HD on WTTG FOX 5. Is this really so?
The weekly NFL thread in the Programming forum shows the game as being in HD (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=910125). I would consider this to be much more accurate than TitanTV or Zap2it which are frequently wrong on their HD notations. However, the Ravens will not be getting the HD love this week as that game will be widescreen SD on Fox, which the fans can blame on having the Arizona Cardinals as the visiting team.

I have move the antenna all around, i set the computer up so that I could extend the antenna out to the apartment porch and aimied it every which way and pick up no ABC, CBS, Fox, etc...just MHZ channels, PBS WETA-DT, qubo and ionW
Do you get WDCA-DT 20 and WDCW-DT 50? The big four stations are at high power, so you should be getting them if you get WETA-DT PBS 26. Again, double check your channel and input setup for the PC based HDTV Wonder tuner.

DRal, here's another trick: Manually enter the channel number of the big 4 channels and see what happens. NBC it's 48, Fox it's 36, ABC it's 39, CBS is 34.

How close in miles are you to the Tenleytown Metro stop (on the Red Line)? You may have overload or too much multipath of those signals.

The War?

I notice that the "new" MPT and WETA appear to be showing the same episodes of "The War" on different nights. Is the guide correct, or is this just more of WETA's digital guide (and the TitanTV version of it) being some completely wacky thing with little relation to what's actually on? Given the choice between recording the same show on one or the other, I always used to pick MPT-HD based on the winning combination of better picture quality and reliable guide information. Used to. Thanks, MPT!

Anyway, if the guide's right, I'd like to grab some of the episodes of "The War" at 1am on WETA since there's no PQ advantage for MPT anymore. But I'm confused by the different nights I'm seeing in the guide.

After asking that question, I looked at weta.org. Their web site lists broadcast times and dates that bear no relation at all to what shows up in the TitanTV guide. I sent the following comment on their web contact form:

I use a TV tuner that relies on programming guide data from titantv.com. The feed for WETA programming is utterly unreliable. I can reconfigure my tuner to use the program data included in the digital stream, but I have found it to be no more reliable or accurate than the titantv.com data.

I have read on internet forums that other WETA viewers have written you to complain about unreliable guide data, and at various points it has seemed to be more accurate than it had been, but the guide always seems to get wrong again.

In this case, the programming I was looking at was "The War." Because TitanTV actually showed the same episodes being broadcast on different nights on WMPT and WETA, I looked at the schedule on your web site, and it bears no relation at all to what I found on titantv.com. Not only did I find that "The War" is being broadcast on completely different nights, I found that the second episode of the "Lawrence of Arabia" documentary (the first episode of which my girlfriend and I had enjoyed) had been on tonight, and we had missed it because we didn't know it had been on.

Even your own web site, however, is inconsistent. The page at http://www.weta.org/tv/dtv/ says that HD content is broadcast 24 hours, but the sidebar of the "what's on" page says, "Currently WETA shuts down the TV transmitter at 2:00am. If you watch WETA via our signal over the air, you will not have access to our 2:00am - 6:00am programming." Which one is correct?

Please correct these issues, and soon. I would like to be able to enjoy much of the programming that shows up in my guide as being on WETA, but when I record it on my PVR I inevitably find that I've recorded something else entirely.

I'm expecting no useful response, but we'll see.

I have move the antenna all around, i set the computer up so that I could extend the antenna out to the apartment porch and aimied it every which way and pick up no ABC, CBS, Fox, etc...just MHZ channels, PBS WETA-DT, qubo and ionW

Sounds like an aiming issue - all the ones you get are in a different direction from the networks you are not getting. Assuming the card has a signal meter point the antenna in the opposite direction from the strongest signal on the MHz channel.

I have move the antenna all around, i set the computer up so that I could extend the antenna out to the apartment porch and aimied it every which way and pick up no ABC, CBS, Fox, etc...just MHZ channels, PBS WETA-DT, qubo and ionW

had same problem, buy a motorola signal booster from circuit city I live in manassas and I can pick up all the DC HD's

Comcast launches CSN+

After enduring a summer with a dearth of live sports programming, Comcast Sportsnet Mid-Atlantic is launching a special overflow channel to accommodate the abundance of games it plans to carry this fall and winter.

The network will unveil CSN+ on Friday, Oct. 5, with the game between D.C. United and the Kansas City Wizards. The Washington Capitals home opener will air on CSN's main channel.

CSN+ is not a full-time channel, but will be available when CSN's partner team's are playing at identical times.

You may recall that the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network launched a similar overflow channel, MASN2, to accommodate coverage of the Nationals and Orioles. In most instances, CSN+ will replace MASN2 on your channel lineup. You can find out for sure by typing in your zip code at CSN's Web site, comcastsportsnet.com.

"With such an abundant programming schedule to accommodate a diverse viewership, Comcast SportsNet must create an additional channel that supports all of our live sports content," said Rebecca O’Sullivan-Schulte, senior vice president and general manager of Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic. "With the 78 Wizards games, 75 Capitals games and numerous collegiate football and basketball matchups we will carry this year, Comcast SportsNet couldn't fit it all on only one network."

http://video1.washingtontimes.com/sportsbiz/2007/09/comcast_launches_csn.html

A big - next to CSN+ for DirecTV. What happens in March when the Nats and O's are in Spring Training to MASN2?

A big - next to CSN+ for DirecTV.

They probably just didn't set the number yet. DirecTV has THREE MASN channels on their guide.

A couple of times in the last week, I have seen a problem with WMAR-DT on the MPEG4 version on DirecTV. The problem occurred during the Nebraska/USC game and again on Ugly Betty and during Nightline last night.

The behavior is that the video goes into a complete melted version of the picture. Kind of like mixing paint together. It clears after a while. The problem showed on two HD/DVRs so it is not a single unit problem (and has been reported by other customers in the area). There was not an issue OTA or on Comcast during this meltdown.

Anyone from WMAR monitor this forum?

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Anyone from WMAR monitor this forum?

Yes. At least one that I know of.

Then maybe they can tell us why the ABC game tonight is in SD? At least it is now.

Then maybe they can tell us why the ABC game tonight is in SD? At least it is now.It's SD in Richmond and Norfolk...

Then maybe they can tell us why the ABC game tonight is in SD? At least it is now.
I saw earlier tonight that there were different games on WJLA-DT 7 and WMAR-DT 2 in Baltimore. After seeing your post, at 11:30 PM, the Iowa-Wisc game is in SD on WJLA-DT but is HD on WMAR-DT. Did the game on WJLA-DT go SD at or after 11 PM? Bet that someone at WJLA-DT on the late shift forgot to switch back to the HD feed from the network. For football fans in the region, this is why it is useful to put up an antenna, if they are in the broadcast range of both, to be able to get the networks from both cities.

Been an entire week, same problem with CBS, I guess I'll be calling to get a STB :(

Thanks for the heads up. We aren't experiencing any encoding issues at the station. As a customer you should contact Direct TV about this issue. I will also do the same on behalf of WMAR.

Anyone having issues with WUSA via OTA? I have a decent signal strength on my Dish VIP211 (85%) but have picture/sound breakup every couple seconds. I've rebooted the unit with no luck and all other channels come in fine (Balt and DC). WJZ from Baltimore comes in just fine as well.

I've hooked a spectrum analyzer up to my ota antenna and have noted the amplitude of the signal at channels 34,35,36 is lower than others, and seem to run into each other, with no clear break between signals, however 35 and 36 (WDCA and WTTG) come in just fine. I mapped ch34 to 591MHz from info I found on the web about UHF. Any of you signal experts out there have any ideas?

EDIT: I added pictures of the spectrum, the first is a 50MHz span centered on 591MHz, the second is a 400MHz span centered on 591MHz.

I lugged my spec-a up on the roof to check the signal right at the antenna. I found it MUCH higher and cleaner. Looks like I might have to redo my wiring and possibly add an amplifer. I have approx 65ft of RG-6 between the antenna and my receiver.

I'm watching the WTTG HD Baltimore/Arizona and I gotta say, the HD looks like absolute garbage. I'm not sure what the heck the problem is, looks almost out of focus. Usually WTTG looks good. WUSA HD is looking good though.

Baltimore - AZ is in Widescreen SD, since Fox only does 6 HD games a week. We got stuck with the SD game since AZ sucks.

I've hooked a spectrum analyzer up to my ota antenna and have noted the amplitude of the signal at channels 34,35,36 is lower than others, and seem to run into each other, with no clear break between signals, however 35 and 36 (WDCA and WTTG) come in just fine. I mapped ch34 to 591MHz from info I found on the web about UHF. Any of you signal experts out there have any ideas?

EDIT: I added pictures of the spectrum, the first is a 50MHz span centered on 591MHz, the second is a 400MHz span centered on 591MHz.

Those are seriously anemic Washington, DC signals, compared to what I'd expect someone to be able to develop from the geographic center of Severn, MD, but the signal strength ratio of 34-36 as compared to analog 32 is typical, so the spectrum you have captured does not reveal inconsistently low Washington digital UHF signal levels. I have a trashcan lid antenna in College Park, MD that is less than ten feet above average terrain, yet it develops Baltimore digital waveforms that put your Washington digital waveforms to shame.

What are you using for an antenna? How is it oriented? Are you located behind a steep hill to your Southwest?

Baltimore - AZ is in Widescreen SD, since Fox only does 6 HD games a week. We got stuck with the SD game since AZ sucks.

Well I'll be. I've never heard of Widescreen SD that isn't stretched. This is BS. It's 2007 folks, let's get all channels in HD!

Those are seriously anemic Washington, DC signals, compared to what I'd expect someone to be able to develop from the geographic center of Severn, MD, but the signal strength ratio of 34-36 as compared to analog 32 is typical, so the spectrum you have captured does not reveal inconsistently low Washington digital UHF signal levels. I have a trashcan lid antenna in College Park, MD that is less than ten feet above average terrain, yet it develops Baltimore digital waveforms that put your Washington digital waveforms to shame.

What are you using for an antenna? How is it oriented? Are you located behind a steep hill to your Southwest?

The signal looks much better at the antenna, which makes me think it might be cabling. I'll take a pic of the spectrum from my roof after the game today.

I am using this antenna from radio shack:
http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2265531w345.jpg

I have it pointed directly towards the DC stations, which is at 248degrees. The Baltimore stations are at 23degrees, but I get a pretty booming signal from them. I have the antenna mounted on my roof, which is probably about 20 feet off the ground. There is a big tree about 40 feet in front of it in the direction of DC. The house next door has aluminum siding and is about 20' away, due south (180degrees) of the antenna.

Well I'll be. I've never heard of Widescreen SD that isn't stretched. This is BS. It's 2007 folks, let's get all channels in HD!
Widescreen SD is quite common for sports. Fox Saturday baseball was all widescreen SD last year. For the golf events on NBC this year - all the the mobile camera shots were widescreen SD. It was a big deal this year when CBS went to all HD, including the mobile cameras, for their golf coverage. Sport events from Europe are often widescreen upconverted SD from the PAL 576i 16:9 format widely used in Europe.

Also, several of the prime time reality series on Fox are shot in widescreen SD and upconverted. Widescreen SD can look pretty good when it done right. I caught the end of the Arizona-Balt game on Fox and that was an example of poor looking widescreen upconverted SD. They must have been using a composite feed in the path somewhere.

IIRC, the NFL is requiring that all NFL games in the 2008 season to be in HD. So this is the last season with several NFL SD games each week.

The signal looks much better at the antenna, which makes me think it might be cabling. I'll take a pic of the spectrum from my roof after the game today.

I am using this antenna from radio shack:
http://rsk.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pRS1C-2265531w345.jpg

I have it pointed directly towards the DC stations, which is at 248degrees. The Baltimore stations are at 23degrees, but I get a pretty booming signal from them. I have the antenna mounted on my roof, which is probably about 20 feet off the ground. There is a big tree about 40 feet in front of it in the direction of DC. The house next door has aluminum siding and is about 20' away, due south (180degrees) of the antenna.


Even if your signals are a bit higher on the roof, the fact is that something is blocking or interfering with the DC stations. You can tell this because three of the Baltimore stations, 38, 40, and 46 are on the order of 10 dB higher than the DC stations. Reorienting the antenna might help, but you might have to move it...

BTW, it's nice to see that the highest signal level you are getting is from my station - WNUV channel 54!

BTW, it's nice to see that the highest signal level you are getting is from my station - WNUV channel 54!
And I was going to recommend that he drop a notch on his analog 54 visual carrier if he decides to experiment with a preamp. :eek:

IIRC, the NFL is requiring that all NFL games in the 2008 season to be in HD. So this is the last season with several NFL SD games each week.

Thought that was 2009?

Edit: Nevermind...found engadget saying 2008.

I saw earlier tonight that there were different games on WJLA-DT 7 and WMAR-DT 2 in Baltimore. After seeing your post, at 11:30 PM, the Iowa-Wisc game is in SD on WJLA-DT but is HD on WMAR-DT. Did the game on WJLA-DT go SD at or after 11 PM? Bet that someone at WJLA-DT on the late shift forgot to switch back to the HD feed from the network. For football fans in the region, this is why it is useful to put up an antenna, if they are in the broadcast range of both, to be able to get the networks from both cities.

It switched back to HD for the second half on WMAR. Sounds like they had some switching issues.

Been an entire week, same problem with CBS, I guess I'll be calling to get a STB :(

I5shawn:

Had technicians come out to my house 3x this week.
The last guy was Comcast's top troubleshooter who showed up unannounced yesterday afternoon...pretty sharp guy.

We bypassed all splitters to eliminate any in home issues.
He confirmed there are intermittent signal drops on the freq carrying channel 212. This is causing the drop outs on our cable cards.

Note> STB's are not effected because of their internal amplifiers.

I suggest you call Comcast to complain and tell them you know of other people with the same problem.

Also, dont let them mess with your cable card.
a) Its not the cable card's problem
b) Comcast has a bunch of bad cable cards that don't work at all

It took 2 visits by technicians before they finally brought a card that worked in my Sony XBR1.

PM me if you want to discuss further.

And I was going to recommend that he drop a notch on his analog 54 visual carrier if he decides to experiment with a preamp. :eek:

Little known fact: WNUV 54 is the highest power commercial station in the state of MD (5 million watts ERP). Actually, that's the highest FCC licensed power available in the US.

There is one other station in MD that is also putting out 5 million watts. Anyone want to guess what it is?

Even if your signals are a bit higher on the roof, the fact is that something is blocking or interfering with the DC stations. You can tell this because three of the Baltimore stations, 38, 40, and 46 are on the order of 10 dB higher than the DC stations. Reorienting the antenna might help, but you might have to move it...

BTW, it's nice to see that the highest signal level you are getting is from my station - WNUV channel 54!

Yea I was kind of surprised at the difference in signal level between channels on the spec-a. I played with changing the direction of the antenna (Az, elevation) but it appears to be in the optimal direction. The only thing I can think of is the large tree that is directly inbetween the antenna and the DC towers. Also there is a BGE residential service power line (single wire that runs pole to pole to a transformer) at about the same level as my antenna, between the antenna and DC towers, any chance that is blocking signal?

I attached a drawing of my house if it helps. Also the spectrums direct from the antenna on the roof, sorry the wide one is a little blurry.

But all of those signals are too weak. Maybe you need a new balun.

Little known fact: WNUV 54 is the highest power commercial station in the state of MD (5 million watts ERP). Actually, that's the highest FCC licensed power available in the US.

There is one other station in MD that is also putting out 5 million watts. Anyone want to guess what it is?WMPT Annapolis?

hokiefan, you may need both a new balun and cabling...

Before the Simpsons tonight WBFF said to "watch The Simpsons in HD on Comcast channel 213".:rolleyes:

Yea I was kind of surprised at the difference in signal level between channels on the spec-a. I played with changing the direction of the antenna (Az, elevation) but it appears to be in the optimal direction. The only thing I can think of is the large tree that is directly inbetween the antenna and the DC towers. Also there is a BGE residential service power line (single wire that runs pole to pole to a transformer) at about the same level as my antenna, between the antenna and DC towers, any chance that is blocking signal?
The power line could be a problem if it is a major line close to the antenna. But you have the Radio Shack U-75R which I have tried. I have found it to be a very touchy antenna for the right aim, even for highly directional antenna. I compared it to the Channel Master 4221 4 Bay bowtie and the CM 4221 won handily for picking up stations both in DC and Baltimore even with the U-75R aimed at either city. The U-75R has the advantage of being lightweight and easy to set up, but I would recommend the CM 4221 or CM 4228 over it any day.

One thing you could try with your U-75R is tilt the aim upwards a bit if it is level.

I'm watching WJZ DT on D* in SD instead of HD tonight.Anyone else with the same issue?
BTW I called WJZ and they said because the football game ran late CBS does not send out a HD signal. Does this sound right?

The power line could be a problem if it is a major line close to the antenna. But you have the Radio Shack U-75R which I have tried. I have found it to be a very touchy antenna for the right aim, even for highly directional antenna. I compared it to the Channel Master 4221 4 Bay bowtie and the CM 4221 won handily for picking up stations both in DC and Baltimore even with the U-75R aimed at either city. The U-75R has the advantage of being lightweight and easy to set up, but I would recommend the CM 4221 or CM 4228 over it any day.

One thing you could try with your U-75R is tilt the aim upwards a bit if it is level.Hokiefan, I've got a 4221 sitting on the floor here in Odenton that you're welcome to borrow if you want to try a quick antenna swap to test this theory before spending money/fooling with cable issues. Drop me a PM if you're interested, us Hokies gotta stick together!

BTW I called WJZ and they said because the football game ran late CBS does not send out a HD signal. Does this sound right?

Rethink:
How many prime-time network feeds was CBS sending yesterday causing this statement to be made? CBS did not even have the doubleheader this week. There were three regional games on at 4pm (Cle-Oak- the lone 4pm SD game, Jax-Den, Cin-Sea) one of which WJZ carried because the Ravens were on WBFF/WTTG at 1pm, another SD game, and a CBS game usually cannot be shown against it in Baltimore.

Perhaps next year, when the NFL's mandate about HD kicks in, this will no longer be the case and the infrastructure will be there.

Little known fact: WNUV 54 is the highest power commercial station in the state of MD (5 million watts ERP). Actually, that's the highest FCC licensed power available in the US.

There is one other station in MD that is also putting out 5 million watts. Anyone want to guess what it is?Let me guess? WBFF?

had same problem, buy a motorola signal booster from circuit city I live in manassas and I can pick up all the DC HD's

Well I picked up a new indoor antenna, reception was no better no worse. I spent a great amount of time moving that antenna around, change the direction I am aiming it etc....

So i ordered the motorola signal booster, hopefully that will solve the problem.

Michigan State at Notre Dame on Saturday, on WRC-DT looked horrible. Has anyone else noticed this? NBC seems to do the worst job of covering football in HD. Or was it the aforementioned widescreen SD?

NBC games have been panned for years. They just don't get it.

So its not your set, its them

WMPT Annapolis?

hokiefan, you may need both a new balun and cabling...

Let me guess? WBFF?

It is WMPT in Annapolis. And since they are at a lower frequency than me, their 5 million watts goes further than my 5 million watts...

Then again, my antenna is 153 meters (about 502 feet) higher than theirs, above sea level.

Rethink:
How many prime-time network feeds was CBS sending yesterday causing this statement to be made? CBS did not even have the doubleheader this week. There were three regional games on at 4pm (Cle-Oak- the lone 4pm SD game, Jax-Den, Cin-Sea) one of which WJZ carried because the Ravens were on WBFF/WTTG at 1pm, another SD game, and a CBS game usually cannot be shown against it in Baltimore.

Perhaps next year, when the NFL's mandate about HD kicks in, this will no longer be the case and the infrastructure will be there.

That's the reason that they didn't have HD then - CBS was doing their regular HD programming at the regular time, but WJZ had to time-shift the programming due to the second football game, and apparently, they, like us, have no way to time-shift HD programming... (currently...)

Before the Simpsons tonight WBFF said to "watch The Simpsons in HD on Comcast channel 213".:rolleyes:

My Sinclair Fox station does the same thing, and even runs "WANT TO SEE FOX 53 in HDTV? CALL 1-800-COMCAST!" in the news ticker during their 10 PM news. Everytime I see that I think, "That's funny, I'm watching it now without them."

The My Network station, which is the other half of the Sinclair twinstick operation, shows their Comcast slot during promos.

Even if your signals are a bit higher on the roof, the fact is that something is blocking or interfering with the DC stations. You can tell this because three of the Baltimore stations, 38, 40, and 46 are on the order of 10 dB higher than the DC stations. Reorienting the antenna might help, but you might have to move it...

BTW, it's nice to see that the highest signal level you are getting is from my station - WNUV channel 54!

I was in Columbia this past weekend visiting a friend, and decided to bring my WinTV HVR-950 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J1CCGA?ie=UTF8&tag=pennahighways&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000J1CCGA) to see what I could pick up. Not only could I pick up yours, but all of the Baltimore DTVs with the little antenna Hauppauge provides with some problems with WUTB.

Anyone having problems getting WJZ working through a windows media center?

I have perfect signal and it suddenly stopped working a few weeks ago.

I can see it with other HD tuners, but not through Windows MCE.

Can anyone else confirm this?

Thanks.

Not only could I pick up yours, but all of the Baltimore DTVs with the little antenna Hauppauge provides with some problems with WUTB.I was able to pick up WUTB-DT here in Germantown last week, it was weak though (both in signal strength and content)

Warning for Verizon Fios subscribers: Guide data messed up today for NBC HD in Washington Metro area

Heads up for any Washington Metro region Verizon Fios subscribers planning to record Heroes or the two new NBC shows in HD tonight on the Fios 6416 DVR. The guide data for for WRC-DT NBC 4 on channel 807 is off by a half-hour. It has the series premiere of Chuck starting at 8:30 PM ET, season premiere of Heroes at 9:30 PM, Journeyman at 10:30 PM. The guide in fact is off by 1/2 hour for channel 807 for the entire day. This 1/2 hour error is for 807 only as far as I can tell as the times for HD ABC, CBS, Fox and SD channel for WRC on channel 4 are correct. The guide for 807 goes back to the correct time after midnight for Conan at 12:30 AM ET and is correct for tomorrow. Looks like people will need to set manual recording times for the 6416 if they want the full hour of Heroes tonight. I like the picture quality and net speed for Fios, but yet another screwup in the guide data, this one for a major network on the day the new fall season really starts up. :rolleyes:

Do any of you use indoor antennas? If so, which one?

I live in Potomac, MD and want to try a few.

I was in Columbia this past weekend visiting a friend, and decided to bring my WinTV HVR-950 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000J1CCGA?ie=UTF8&tag=pennahighways&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B000J1CCGA) to see what I could pick up. Not only could I pick up yours, but all of the Baltimore DTVs with the little antenna Hauppauge provides with some problems with WUTB.

WUTB-DT and WUTB-TV both come off of the WNUV tower in Catonsville. It's off of Rt. 40, just on the other side of the Patapsco River from Howard County, so it's not really surprising that you cam pick it up in Columbia. It is kinda surprising that it was picked up in Germantown, though. WUTB doesn't yet have their full power transmitter in.

I made some changes in my basement and moved my HT into a different room with all new cable runs. The new location is a bit further from my "distribution center" where everything comes into the house. I have not moved the controller unit for the OT antenna rotor yet, though. I have a couple of questions first:

1) The original run isn't long enough to reach the new location. Am I right in assuming a splice isn't going to be a problem?

2) What gauge of cable is needed? The existing piece looks pretty thin. There seems to be 4 strands, but two of them go into the same connection on the back of the unit. Do I need all four (I don't know how they are connected at the antenna end on the roof).

3) Can I use four-wire phone cable? Or, even better, I have a run of cat 5 already going to the area behind the TV. I just hooked it up to the ethernet port on my Dish VIP-622, and it works fine. Ethernet only uses 4 of the 8 wires in a cat 5 cable. Can I just splice into the other 4 without degrading my ethernet (622 use only for that cable) or the controller box signals?

-Chris

I think that #3 is a big no no. I don't think that twisted pair is going to like the contoller signals on neigboring pairs. But hey, it only lasts during the rotation right? hehe.

I used some "alarm" wire which my builders had run up to the attic when my house was being built. It wasn't much more than phone line with a solid core (not that thin braided stuff). I think, mine uses 3 wires, but if you only have two currently connected and it works, I can't see why it would stop if you continued to use the same two.

I think you misunderstood me. All four wires are in use, but two of them are twisted together and connected to the same jack so there are only three distinct "signals".

-Chris

WUTB-DT and WUTB-TV both come off of the WNUV tower in Catonsville. It's off of Rt. 40, just on the other side of the Patapsco River from Howard County, so it's not really surprising that you cam pick it up in Columbia. It is kinda surprising that it was picked up in Germantown, though. WUTB doesn't yet have their full power transmitter in.

I was surprised that the little 4.5" high antenna that comes with the WinTV stick could pick up anything. At home, it doesn't receive anything but I am atleast 30-40 miles from any transmitter and the terrain varies more. After the dropped frames on 24, I checked the FCC database and saw the low power level.

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avsforum to the rescue again

Warning for Verizon Fios subscribers: Guide data messed up today for NBC HD in Washington Metro area

I called the FSC at 7:40 (before checking here), amazingly got through to a live body quickly but they knew nothing about this and they proceeded to reset all of the boxes. Of course that didn't help (and the channels barely came back in time for the new shows at 8.) They put me on hold for about 10 minutes and then... dialtone!

Let's hope this doesn't happen too often (if ever again)... much less during season premieres.

I'm in the Arlington area with Comcast and using a SciAtl 8300HD box and noticed that the audio drop outs have started back up again either viewing live HD channels or recorded channels.

This was a big problem last spring but seemed to clear itself up over the summer.

FOX is the worst tonight and my recording of Family Guy last night is darn near impossible to watch. I seem to notice it on all the network channels but HBO/Showtime seem to be ok for me. And I cant recall having problems with them ever in the past.

Anyone else ? or is it just me. Comcast always just wants to "replace the box" but honestly I dont think it's the box thats the problem.

I'm about THIS close to going out and getting my TivoHD that I've wanted but I"m not sure if it will resolve this issue if it's a signal strength problem.

Ideas?

This is happening to me as well. It has been for a few days now. I'm using the same box w/ Comcast Alexandria. Incidentally, I tried my OTA channels and I seem to be getting similar break ups, although less often. Very strange and very annoying. So maybe it's not Comcast?

Audio drop outs seem to have stopped, but ESPN-HD and CSN-HD were out for a while. So I guess it was Comcast. Both are back on but ESPN-HD is still a little flakey.

I've had audio drop outs on all my HD channels from Comcast Alexandria (SA8300HD) for the past couple days as well. It's really starting to get annoying.

I wish Verizon and the city would reach an agreement, Comcast just keeps getting worse.

Yes it seems to be better for me now as well. It's odd how this happens.

My 8pm recording of Prison Break is impossible to watch. I have K-Ville on now and it's been fine for the past 10 minutes.

I'm hoping Heroes doesn't suffer the audio drop outs!

I wonder if anyone who isnt using the SA8300HD has this issue? I've been using the same 8300 for 2.5 years now and it really just became an this past spring. And typically is always the worst on FOX.

Crossing my fingers it was an isolated incident!

Do any of you use indoor antennas? If so, which one?I use a RadioShack 15-1868 non-amplified antenna, available at said stores for $25, which picks up all DC locals with the exceptions of WNVC-DT (probably a crap antenna or transmitter), and long-range WPXW and WMPT. I'd try that one first. However, you may need the RadioShack 15-1892, which is amplified, and might help you more. Some guy in Olney can get both DC and Baltimore stations with that one. It's much easier to tune than the 15-1892, and WOW, what UHF analog signal quality, even on minimal amplification (you will need at least minimal amplification to get any serviceable digital signal, unlike the 15-1868, which actually beats the 15-1892 when in non-amplified mode)...

Do any of you use indoor antennas? If so, which one?

I live in Potomac, MD and want to try a few.
I have a 4221 sitting in the corner in the living room, pulling in Washington and B-more stations here in 21113 (Odenton) with very few issues. Not technically an "indoor" antenna, it's in the corner and behind some stuff and relatively out of sight.

I'm in the Arlington area with Comcast and using a SciAtl 8300HD box and noticed that the audio drop outs have started back up again either viewing live HD channels or recorded channels.

This was a big problem last spring but seemed to clear itself up over the summer.

FOX is the worst tonight and my recording of Family Guy last night is darn near impossible to watch. I seem to notice it on all the network channels but HBO/Showtime seem to be ok for me. And I cant recall having problems with them ever in the past.

Anyone else ? or is it just me. Comcast always just wants to "replace the box" but honestly I dont think it's the box thats the problem.

I'm about THIS close to going out and getting my TivoHD that I've wanted but I"m not sure if it will resolve this issue if it's a signal strength problem.

Ideas?

I have this same problem. I thought it may have been the box but I went to the gym in my apartment complex and the same thing was happening on the TV there and it does not have a box.

I spoke to Comcast last night. After an amusing 10 minutes with the first CSR who thought the reason I wasn't seeing a picture on ESPN-HD was because I had to pay extra for it because it was part of their sports package, he put me on a three way call with someone from sales to prove me wrong I guess. After the sales guy explained to the CSR he was wrong, I explained my situation to the sales guy and he immediately acknowledged they were having issues with audio for a few days, and that he was just notified the problem was resolved (which it was). However three of my HD channels were still on again/off again. He wasn't sure why that was happening but they are sending a tech out on Thursday. I did not check it this morning but will this evening. My guess is it they will work.

Gotta love Comcast.

Looks like Cox in Fairfax has added NFL Network HD on 718...at least, it seems new as I've never noticed it before.

I use a RadioShack 15-1868 non-amplified antenna, available at said stores for $25, which picks up all DC locals with the exceptions of WNVC-DT (probably a crap antenna or transmitter), and long-range WPXW and WMPT. I'd try that one first. However, you may need the RadioShack 15-1892, which is amplified, and might help you more. Some guy in Olney can get both DC and Baltimore stations with that one. It's much easier to tune than the 15-1892, and WOW, what UHF analog signal quality, even on minimal amplification (you will need at least minimal amplification to get any serviceable digital signal, unlike the 15-1868, which actually beats the 15-1892 when in non-amplified mode)...

Thanks, I'll check them out. Are these better than the Phillips antennas that Circuit City and Walmart carry?

Looks like Cox in Fairfax has added NFL Network HD on 718...at least, it seems new as I've never noticed it before.

Yes, thats confirmed, Cox added NFL HD, but only for people who subscribe to Digital Sports & Info Tier. Kind of like Comcast.
It is on Cox's website as well.
EDIT: Just tried to locate the channel on the CableCARD, nothing there, therefore I assume this is the first of the SDV channels.

I spoke to Comcast last night. After an amusing 10 minutes with the first CSR who thought the reason I wasn't seeing a picture on ESPN-HD was because I had to pay extra for it because it was part of their sports package, he put me on a three way call with someone from sales to prove me wrong I guess. After the sales guy explained to the CSR he was wrong, I explained my situation to the sales guy and he immediately acknowledged they were having issues with audio for a few days, and that he was just notified the problem was resolved (which it was). However three of my HD channels were still on again/off again. He wasn't sure why that was happening but they are sending a tech out on Thursday. I did not check it this morning but will this evening. My guess is it they will work.

Gotta love Comcast.
I started noticing severe audio hiccups on HD channels from about 200 through 220 (in Alexandria) on Sunday night (PQ was fine, however). When I checked Monday afternoon, same problems. I called 800-COMCAST; CSR wanted to know if we had heavy rain or high winds (hah!). He wanted to send a tech, to which I replied Don't Bother; I'm not sure I ever convinced him that the problem was in processing at the NoVA head end.

Last night while watching Heros on NBCHD 211 (with lousy sound), picture went out with message "Poor Signal Quality"; switched to NBC analog 4. Switched back to 211 after awhile; picture & sound was then A-OK. Obviously, some tech finally woke up to the problem(s) and fixed 'em. Question is why does it take them more than 24 hours to catch stuff like this?

(Gotta love Comcast)**2.

Yes, thats confirmed, Cox added NFL HD, but only for people who subscribe to Digital Sports & Info Tier. Kind of like Comcast.
It is on Cox's website as well.
EDIT: Just tried to locate the channel on the CableCARD, nothing there, therefore I assume this is the first of the SDV channels.

I've got it too and I'm not a subscriber to that tier. However nothing is in HD, its got black bars on the sides.

D* has 21 new HD channels up.

A&E HD (channel 265)
Animal Planet HD (channel 282)
Big Ten Network HD (channel 220)
CNN HD (channel 202)
Discovery Channel HD (channel 278)
The History Channel (channel 269)
The Learning Channel (channel 280)
The Movie Channel (channel 544)
NFL Network HD (channel 212)
The Science Channel HD (channel 284)
Showtime Too HD (channel 538)
Showtime West HD (channel 540)
Smithsonian Channel HD (channel 267)
Starz Comedy HD (channel 519)
Starz Edge HD (channel 522)
Starz HD East (channel 520)
Starz HD West (channel 521)
Starz Kids (channel 518)
TBS HD (channel 247)
The Weather Channel HD (channel 362)
Versus/Golf Channel (channel 604)

Good deal. D* customers be sure to chime in on the PQ of the new channels.

I'm surprised that NatGeo, Food, and HGTV are missing. Especially NatGeo since its been on part time already.

to really pull those stations in buy a Motorola signal booster at Circuit City, I live in Manassas and with that booster I can pull in every HD OTA with a basic terk indoor antenna

Bought the Motorola signal booster, no help. I picked up a couple different channels but I am still unable to get ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS. It Sucks. Perhaps it my card, I just do not understand why I can not get OTA channels.

Good deal. D* customers be sure to chime in on the PQ of the new channels.

I'm surprised that NatGeo, Food, and HGTV are missing. Especially NatGeo since its been on part time already.PQ? Outstanding... CNNHD and TWCHD (when they do local on the 8s) very, very nice!

PQ? Outstanding... CNNHD and TWCHD (when they do local on the 8s) very, very nice!
Sounds encouraging! Would you say MPEG4 national channels are much better in HD PQ than MPEG2? Nothing like an assessment from Robert who we HD Lite haters can bank on as being unbiased! Any WOW factor at play here on the new channels??

Sounds encouraging! Would you say MPEG4 national channels are much better in HD PQ than MPEG2? Nothing like an assessment from Robert who we HD Lite haters can bank on as being unbiased! Any WOW factor at play here on the new channels??They are better. It's actually easy to see becaase D* is running HBOHD in MPEG2 and now MPEG4. Sharper PQ and more color! The ESPNs are still MPEG2... disappointed. Maybe this will change, maybe not. It could stay MPEG2 because both nets are 720p instead of 1080i... (less bandwidth and they might not be compressing those two nets too much anyways)

Do any of you use indoor antennas? If so, which one?

I live in Potomac, MD and want to try a few.
I use the Zenith ZHDTV1 Silver Sensor in Arlington with good results. Philips also sells the same unit. I also use the old Radio Shack "Double Bow Tie" antenna that has been discontinued that is less directional than the Silver Sensor. I have tried many, many others that are much worse.

The ESPNs are still MPEG2... disappointed. Maybe this will change, maybe not. It could stay MPEG2
What a disappointment indeed to us football/sports nuts! To see a microscopic mole on Wolf Blitzer's nose is one thing, but conversely to see HD Lite continue on the ESPN HD football games is downright awful! Please say it ain't so, Robert!

Cox to add NFL HD, NHL HD in Fairfax County and Fredericksburg, VA.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/

I have now figured out why I pay cox 170 a month for service! NHL HD!!!! DELICIOUS!!!!

They are better. It's actually easy to see becaase D* is running HBOHD in MPEG2 and now MPEG4. Sharper PQ and more color! The ESPNs are still MPEG2... disappointed. Maybe this will change, maybe not. It could stay MPEG2 because both nets are 720p instead of 1080i... (less bandwidth and they might not be compressing those two nets too much anyways)


I think I read that they do not do anything to the 720p channels.

But how did you tell ESPN 206 and 209 are MPEG2?

I think I read that they do not do anything to the 720p channels.

But how did you tell ESPN 206 and 209 are MPEG2?Someone in another forum said they took off the BBC's from their HR20 and was able to still 206 and 209... :mad:

Is anyone in the Alexandria/Arlington Comcast system receiving NFL-HD? I subscribed to the Sports Tier specifically for this but I've only seen SD content on channel 275. I was under the impression all their content would appear on the hi def channel as an HD simulcast.

What's the deal? Am I missing something?

Arlington/Alex Comcast has never had a full-time NFL-HD channel. Last time they put the actual games in HD on the INHD channel. Since you have to pay for it now, I doubt that they will do this for 2007 games.

I realize we've never had a full time NFL-HD channel and we got our games on INHD last year. It's just I've read articles about how Comcast was offering the channel HD; it's even listed as channel 246 on their website's channel guide for my ZIP. So, I'm just curious if anyone was seeing it on 275, 246, or somewhere else, or if there was any announcement stating when it might be available, if at all.

Thanks, I'll check them out. Are these better than the Phillips antennas that Circuit City and Walmart carry?I don't know for sure, but I would suspect so. Try 'em if the RadioShack antennas don't work.

Is anyone in the Alexandria/Arlington Comcast system receiving NFL-HD? I subscribed to the Sports Tier specifically for this but I've only seen SD content on channel 275. I was under the impression all their content would appear on the hi def channel as an HD simulcast.

What's the deal? Am I missing something?Most everything on NFL HD is actually upconverted SD. Right now, only the games are in HD.

mikemikeb - Good to know I'm not missing much. Thanks.

I'm surprised that NatGeo, Food, and HGTV are missing. Especially NatGeo since its been on part time already.With FoodHD and HGTV HD, try 231-1 and 229-1, respectively. As for NatGeoHD, I suspect that will be on within a couple of weeks.

I've got it too and I'm not a subscriber to that tier. However nothing is in HD, its got black bars on the sides.

NFL Replay last night (Bengals @ Seahawks) was in HD...for some reason, the first NFL Replay of the night wasn't though. Don't know what was up with that...

Any chance they re "fix" the UI on FIOS. It is HORRIBLE. So buggy....thinking about leaving them it is so bad...

Any chance they re "fix" the UI on FIOS. It is HORRIBLE. So buggy....thinking about leaving them it is so bad...
If you mean the wonderful new IMG software on Fios :rolleyes:, that is a national Fios issue which should be posted in the Fios programming thread or the QIP 6416 DVR thread elsewhere. But to answer the question in part, Verizon has stopped the roll-out of the IMG across the US. Unfortunately the Washington Metro area got the IMG before they stopped. They are working on a updated version before they resume the roll-out, but one would hope they would update the current IMG systems first.

E* has added four HD RSNs:

Comcast Sports Net Mid-Atlantic (ch. 374)
Altitude Sports and Entertainment (ch. 360)
Comcast Sports Net West (ch. 359)
Fox Sports Ohio (ch. 375)

http://www.tvpredictions.com/echosports092607.htm

Sweet! I knew it was coming, hecks its been coming for a year now. :D

Does anyone with Comcast Alexandria have A&E HD yet? It's listed on channel 223 on the channel lineup now. Hopefully we finally have a new HD channel!

Can anyone in 20191/20194 and surrounding area confirm that 250 - Universal HD - is on and available now? It shows up in the channel listing for 20194 now, where it didn't last week.

Someone in another forum said they took off the BBC's from their HR20 and was able to still 206 and 209... :mad:

Ah.

I just checked something. If you get the channel info (by arrowing over to the name of the channel in the guide), it tells which channels are virtual (channel maps of the "true" channel). It shows all the duplicates as virtual in their new locations and the 70s versions as non-virtual. That says that the dupes (TNT, HBO, Showtime, ESPNs) are still in MPEG2.

Does anyone with Comcast Alexandria have A&E HD yet? It's listed on channel 223 on the channel lineup now. Hopefully we finally have a new HD channel!

Yeah we all have it....:p

Check on Monday...

Bought the Motorola signal booster, no help. I picked up a couple different channels but I am still unable to get ABC, FOX, NBC, and CBS. It Sucks. Perhaps it my card, I just do not understand why I can not get OTA channels.

thats disapointing to hear, did you make sure that the booster is plugged in directly to the wall outlet and not a outlet strip? I have a terk indoor antenna and a motorola signal booster.

Anyone know about Center Ice HD availability on Comcast in the Annapolis area? Or Baltimore or DC, for that matter? I'm interested in signing up, but will only consider it if they offer the HD channel this year. Preferably full-time, not shared with other packages like NBA.

well it hit the fan today. Nearly all the channels on the card are blacked out save for the local HD channel and a few odd ones here and there like cspan and others.

A 4 way splitter will drop the signal strength by around 6 dB. I have the CM 4221 4 bay in my attic as well. I have a CM 7777 pre-amp, but I can get all the DC stations and 2 or 3 (IIRC) of the Baltimore stations without the pre-amp. The CM 4221 is aimed just south of the Baltimore stations so I can get the more distant Baltimore stations with the main lobe and the stronger DC stations at 50+ degrees off to the side.

Attic placements can be very sensitive to the right location, not just aim. I can move my antenna forward 6" (I have it mounted on a flat piece of scrap wood) and lose the weaker Baltimore stations. First, you should experiment with the aim and placement (if you can), to see if you can improve the signal strength for WDCW-DT, WETA-DT, and any of the Baltimore stations you get. If that doesn't work, then you should probably add a pre-amp. I got the CM 7777, but based on the advice of antenna installers in the hardware reception, you may want to consider the Winegard HDP-269 pre-amp. It is has low noise and a 12 dB gain whereas the CM 7777 can overload for close-in stations.
Just an update (it's been a few months, but it wasn't a big priority over the summer): I got the CM-7778 from solidsignal.com for about $60 incl. shipping and installed it last night. Works great! Channel 50 went from "searching for signal" (actual strength around 45-50) to perfectly viewable with strength in the 80's. Channel 4 improved from the mid 80's to the mid 90's. 5, 7 and 9 didn't really have any room for improvement, but I'd heard that amplification can sometimes add too much gain to strong signals and this wasn't a problem at all.

And it couldn't have been easier to install. I'm curious though: does the amplifier piece really have to go on the antenna mast, or could I have just put that inside as well, with the power supply? The cabling would have been essentially the same, except that the long cable run would have been from the antenna to the amplifier, instead of from the amplifier to the power supply. My antenna in my attic isn't hard to get to, I'm just curious if I'd had my antenna somewhere that isn't easy to get to, could I have done it that way?

From what I understand, the purpose of an antenna amplifier is to compensate for long cable runs.

So, let us suppose that you have a decent antenna. It pulls in a signal that's just strong enough to be resolved.

But wait, before it gets to your TV, it has to travel through 100 ft of RG-6. The signal loses 5 dB of strength, and dips below the threshold required by your tuner. If, however, it is amplified before it "goes down" the cable, it will still be sufficiently strong enough for your TV to resolve it.

Usually, one part goes up near the antenna, and is powered by another part (the injector) that's safely indoors.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I searched the last few pages but didn't see anything.

Anyone know when FIOS TV MD is going to get additional HD channels, and what they are? It seems like there is a big push of new HD channels between now and the end of the year, and I'm surprised to see them show up on DirecTV and Comcast before they show up on FIOS.

Anyone have any insight/knowledge of this?

(Sorry if this was already answered and I couldn't find it - just point me to a link or something.)

Thanks!

I live in Stafford, VA and I have Comcast cable. I am trying to tune in my local HD channels with my TVs QAM tuner but I have been unable to find them all doing a scan with my tv. I have found NBC on channel 78-5 and a few other channels but no Fox, CBS, or ABC. If anyone knows what channel these might be broadcast on could you please let me know. I would greatly appreciate it.

IAnyone know when FIOS TV MD is going to get additional HD channels, and what they are? It seems like there is a big push of new HD channels between now and the end of the year, and I'm surprised to see them show up on DirecTV and Comcast before they show up on FIOS.

Anyone have any insight/knowledge of this?

(Sorry if this was already answered and I couldn't find it - just point me to a link or something.)
The lack of new HD channels is a national Verizon Fios issue. See the Fios programming thread at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590208&page=146. However, the reports posted on dslreports are that Fios did not put in enough digital QAM channels in the distribution chain from the super head end to the central offices to be able to add all the new HD channels right away. There is plenty of bandwidth from the CO to the home, it is the system above that is the issue. I have done scans and find only ~ 52 QAM channels in the open range from QAM channel 50 to 135. (Analog takes up the channel 2 to 49 reserved space). Lowest QAM channel is 55, highest is 126 with two large gaps in the set. There have been conflicting rumors of Fios adding a few more HD channels this fall or adding 30 new HD channels by the end of the year or not to hardly any new HD channels until next spring after they add more QAM channels to the system. These are rumors so don't live a lot of weight to any of them. But this is a a local issue, so follow-up should go to the Fios thread.

One local issue: The reports from claimed insiders are also that Fios is working hard on adding Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD, but the HD channel has not been added yet and the NHL season starts next week.

The Nationals are playing the Phillies on the Saturday afternoon game on Fox - WTTG 5 and WBFF 45. Now that the season is almost over, we finally have the chance to see the Nats in a better picture quality than we get with MASN.

The following comes from the TUBE's website, "Dear friend of THE TUBE Music Network,

We regret to inform you of the fate that has befallen The Tube Music Network. October 1, 2007 The Tube ceased its national broadcast.

Viewers, Artists, Music Companies, Investors, Business Partners, TV stations, Cable companies, Advertisers , Friends and our creative partners @Radical Media - your support of The Tube has always been highly valued and appreciated. The collective efforts of this team, fueled by the letters we received from viewers, sustained THE TUBE as it struggled through the financial limitations that ultimately contributed to its incapacitated state.

Thank you for inviting The Tube Music Network into your life.

Sincerely,

The Tube Music Network staff"

I wonder if we will see a increase in bitrate on WDCW-DT by the time this is pulled off the air?

The Nationals are playing the Phillies on the Saturday afternoon game on Fox - WTTG 5 and WBFF 45. Now that the season is almost over, we finally have the chance to see the Nats in a better picture quality than we get with MASN.

You left out the word "much" - like night and day with Fox HD vs. SD MASN.

Bring back The Box

The following comes from the TUBE's website, "Dear friend of THE TUBE Music Network,

We regret to inform you of the fate that has befallen The Tube Music Network. October 1, 2007 The Tube ceased its national broadcast.

Viewers, Artists, Music Companies, Investors, Business Partners, TV stations, Cable companies, Advertisers , Friends and our creative partners @Radical Media - your support of The Tube has always been highly valued and appreciated. The collective efforts of this team, fueled by the letters we received from viewers, sustained THE TUBE as it struggled through the financial limitations that ultimately contributed to its incapacitated state.

Thank you for inviting The Tube Music Network into your life.

Sincerely,

The Tube Music Network staff"

I wonder if we will see a increase in bitrate on WDCW-DT by the time this is pulled off the air?

Bring back The Box Music Network

The tube was actually a good network. They should have tried to go the regular "Cable channel" route when the digital sub-channel route didn't appear to be working.

The tube was actually a good network. They should have tried to go the regular "Cable channel" route when the digital sub-channel route didn't appear to be working.

Thanks Sinclair for driving a stake into the heart of The Tube! :mad: If they didn't get into a carriage dispute masked by compliance with FCC regulations, The Tube wouldn't be shutting down thanks in part to losing their largest carrier.

TBS HD just added here in Montclair, VA on channel 232! Now up to 21 HD channels, but still no A&E HD, Universal HD, NFL Network HD, Food Network HD, HGTV HD...

TBS HD just added here in Montclair, VA on channel 232! Now up to 21 HD channels, but still no A&E HD, Universal HD, NFL Network HD, Food Network HD, HGTV HD...


YEs I see it here in Woodbridge too. This channel is even worse than TNT HD as far as HD is concerned. Universal HD would have been HD channel to add in my opinion. Although I only have 10 more weeks with Comcast. I can drop them in December. I'm rarely watching Comcast now since I got FIOS, but for only $30 a month for almost all the channels including HBO and showtime I don't mind keeping it until December since I'm saving over $55 a month off the normal price.

TBS HD just added here in Montclair, VA on channel 232! Now up to 21 HD channels, but still no A&E HD, Universal HD, NFL Network HD, Food Network HD, HGTV HD...

It all good in DC also, they're currently showing Showtime with Deniro :D

24 channels and counting.

I'm surprised that Comcast didn't add CNN-HD at the same time. You would figure that if Comcast and Turner had people doing negotiations that they would have just make a deal all at once. I mean we know that CNN is one of those must have channels that is in every line up, so they are sure to be on Comcast's lineup eventually.

I'd rather have CNN-HD than TBS-HD. Although I'm not a baseball fan.

TBS-HD has been added to Montgomery County (stretch-o-vision).

TBS-HD on channel 232 in Alexandria as well. So glad I'll be able to see the Sox in HD for the divisional series.

Also, I noticed this yesterday - looks like we have a free preview week for Showtime?

This one is from www.dcrtv.com

MASN To Go HD? - 10/1 - "We hope that you will be pleased to know that we are planning a significant complement of high-definition programming for both our Nationals and Orioles game productions next season." That's what a DCRTVer tells us he got in an e-mail from the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network. Sports fans have complained that the Baltimore-based regional sports network, which carries both the Nationals and Orioles, does not provide HD telecasts. Yet.....

Another finger pointing towards MASN-HD existing next spring.

TBS-HD on channel 232 in Alexandria as well. So glad I'll be able to see the Sox in HD for the divisional series.

Also, I noticed this yesterday - looks like we have a free preview week for Showtime?

ANything else added?

This one is from www.dcrtv.com



Another finger pointing towards MASN-HD existing next spring.

This hopefully will happen. I must admit that I rarely watched the Nats because of the terrible PQ and it would be a shame to be in a new stadium with out HD.

I'd rather have CNN-HD than TBS-HD. Although I'm not a baseball fan.CNNHD looks awesome especially programs out of New York (HD studios)...

This one is from www.dcrtv.com



Another finger pointing towards MASN-HD existing next spring.

I wonder if they will have MASN2 HD for when both teams are playing.

TBS-HD on channel 232 in Alexandria as well. So glad I'll be able to see the Sox in HD for the divisional series.

Also, I noticed this yesterday - looks like we have a free preview week for Showtime?

Awesome, I can't wait to get home from work and check it out. Did you notice if A&E HD is active? I saw that it's now on our channel lineup.

The Showtime free preview has been nice. Caught a lot of good movies this weekend. I think it ends today though.

Has anyone heard anything about RCN adding TBS HD in the D.C. area?

TBS-HD has been added to Montgomery County (stretch-o-vision).


What is stretch-o-vision? I have comcast montgomery county.

What is stretch-o-vision? I have comcast montgomery county.

It's where 4x3 material is stretched to fit wide screen tv's, so everyone looks shorter and fatter...

ANything else added?

I just checked again, and no. No A&E or anything else besides TBS-HD.

Awesome, I can't wait to get home from work and check it out. Did you notice if A&E HD is active? I saw that it's now on our channel lineup.
People should be warned to not expect any HD on TBS-HD except for the baseball games. The TBS-HD and new DirecTV HD channels threads in the programming forum indicate that no one has seen any HD on TBS-HD except for the Braves game yesterday. TBS-HD does the ugly stretch-o-vision for all SD, ala TNT-HD. With a sitcom heavy line-up, a lot of the shows on TBS are not available in HD anyway. Until TBS-HD gets HD versions of the more recent sitcoms and the equipment to air them, this will be one bandwidth wasting HD channel once the NLCS is over. This is why I have mixed feelings on wanting Verizon Fios to add it.

CNN-HD, on the other hand, does have new HD content every day for shows from their New York city studios and is producing some pre-recorded programs in HD. Once the cable system adds a channel, it usually stays there. But it would be useful if the bandwidth tight cable companies could provide TBS-HD for the next 2 weeks and then dump it in favor of CNN-HD until they have the bandwidth available for both. Not likely to happen however.

Im in Comcast MoCo myself. So nothing else today? Our BMore neighbors to the north have HGTVHD, Discovery Channel HD and A&E HD. What gives? When do we get any of those in MoCo? What about FoodTV HD? Do you MoCo guys have that new HD Special Events channel between between HBO and the other movie channels? Or is that where todays addition went?

I fell asleep just before midnight Sunday night and when I woke up at about 12:10 AM, The Tube was gone. Did they say "good-bye" or did they just cut the transmission?

I fell asleep just before midnight Sunday night and when I woke up at about 12:10 AM, The Tube was gone. Did they say "good-bye" or did they just cut the transmission?

Now the screen says:
The Tube Music Network has ceased broadcast operations. WDCW-TV plans to bring you new broadcast programming on this digital channel in the near future. Until then, please enjoy the current programming on our analog and High Definition channels.

From www.thetubetv.com

Dear friend of THE TUBE Music Network,

We regret to inform you of the fate that has befallen The Tube Music Network. October 1, 2007 The Tube ceased its national broadcast.

Viewers, Artists, Music Companies, Investors, Business Partners, TV stations, Cable companies, Advertisers , Friends and our creative partners @Radical Media - your support of The Tube has always been highly valued and appreciated. The collective efforts of this team, fueled by the letters we received from viewers, sustained THE TUBE as it struggled through the financial limitations that ultimately contributed to its incapacitated state.

Thank you for inviting The Tube Music Network into your life.

Sincerely,

The Tube Music Network staff

From what I understand, the purpose of an antenna amplifier is to compensate for long cable runs.

So, let us suppose that you have a decent antenna. It pulls in a signal that's just strong enough to be resolved.

But wait, before it gets to your TV, it has to travel through 100 ft of RG-6. The signal loses 5 dB of strength, and dips below the threshold required by your tuner. If, however, it is amplified before it "goes down" the cable, it will still be sufficiently strong enough for your TV to resolve it.

Usually, one part goes up near the antenna, and is powered by another part (the injector) that's safely indoors.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
That definitely makes sense. My receivers that got a good signal before adding the amlifier are the ones in my basement, with considerably shorter cable runs - they're in the same room as where my antenna cable comes inside. The ones where the signal was much weaker were the ones upstairs.

Comcast calls off Millennium (group) deal.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-bz.comcast29sep29,0,6416835.story

Not sure whether this is good or bad.

I fell asleep just before midnight Sunday night and when I woke up at about 12:10 AM, The Tube was gone. Did they say "good-bye" or did they just cut the transmission?
The last 3 videos aired on The Tube are listed at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11775539#post11775539

I have Arlington Comcast and the HD box, but I don't have TBS-HD yet. the channel shows up if I type in the numbers but there's no picture and just that purple box, like when it's a channel that you are not signed up for.

Does anyone know why this might be? All of the other HD channels come in fine.

YEs I see it here in Woodbridge too. This channel is even worse than TNT HD as far as HD is concerned. Universal HD would have been HD channel to add in my opinion. Although I only have 10 more weeks with Comcast. I can drop them in December. I'm rarely watching Comcast now since I got FIOS, but for only $30 a month for almost all the channels including HBO and showtime I don't mind keeping it until December since I'm saving over $55 a month off the normal price.

So is it a safe bet that Manassas and Manassas Park will also have TBS-HD on Channel 232 since Woodbridge and the surrounding NoVA area also got it?

I hope so I would like to see the Phils in 1080i or 720p whichever one they use

Go PHILLIES

So is it a safe bet that Manassas and Manassas Park will also have TBS-HD on Channel 232 since Woodbridge and the surrounding NoVA area also got it?

I hope so I would like to see the Phils in 1080i or 720p whichever one they use

Go PHILLIES

Also in Manassas still waiting for A&E HD, FOOD HD, Universal HD, NFL HD, have NGC HD on 224.

Also in Manassas still waiting for A&E HD, FOOD HD, Universal HD, NFL HD, have NGC HD on 224.

left out no HGTV HD

So is it a safe bet that Manassas and Manassas Park will also have TBS-HD on Channel 232 since Woodbridge and the surrounding NoVA area also got it?

I hope so I would like to see the Phils in 1080i or 720p whichever one they use

Go PHILLIES

Nice, same here. I still can't believe they pulled this off. 14 years of frustration is over. Hopefully we play the Pads and not the Rockies.

This TBS comes at the perfect time. I checked before I left for work this morning and TBS shows up but tells me it's not available to me for some reason. Hopefully it'll be on when I get home.

Im in Comcast MoCo myself.

Is there a place on the web that informs people of new channels? The channel listing for Montgomery County at Comcast doesn't even work.

Nice, same here. I still can't believe they pulled this off. 14 years of frustration is over. Hopefully we play the Pads and not the Rockies.

This TBS comes at the perfect time. I checked before I left for work this morning and TBS shows up but tells me it's not available to me for some reason. Hopefully it'll be on when I get home.

looking forward to checking in Manassas when I get home from work

Comcast DC also now has TBS-HD, on Channel 232. And perhaps they're getting ready for another edition up in the HD sports numbers, because they've moved the HDPPV channel from what I think was 256-ish to 230.

EDIT: Oh, wait, maybe 256ish was the HD Events channel, and HD PPV will be something new?

Got TBS HD in New Market, MD outside of Frederick,MD. Nothing else yet. Still waiting for Comcast Sports Net HD for Terps B-Ball Games and Wizards. Why do I have Comcast cable and no CSN-HD????:mad:

With all the posts here it is hard to keep track. Has TBS-HD been added to Comcast in Loudoun?

DC also got the WUSA Weather Radar (channel 203) and WJLA's Local Point (channel 205) today.

There's also a bunch more MHz channels in the 190s, and WQAW, but I can't verify that those are new today.

Now, where's Food and HGTV? :)

Comcast has added Food Network HD and TBS HD in Baltimore City.

Every on the web channel listing site that I have seen always has days or weeks of lag between when a lineup changes, and when the web site is updated. Here is the best place for info in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Marcus Carr;11782419]Comcast has added Food Network HD and TBS HD in Baltimore City.[/QUOTE

Harford, Howard, Carroll and Baltimore Counties as well.

GoIrish

With all the posts here it is hard to keep track. Has TBS-HD been added to Comcast in Loudoun?

Yes

Every on the web channel listing site that I have seen always has days or weeks of lag between when a lineup changes, and when the web site is updated. Here is the best place for info in my opinion.

Zap2It and TVPlanner sometimes have channels listed early, but you can get early information here every time.

I hope we get CNN soon. Also need History and USA.