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CycloneGT
01-23-07, 03:06 PM
News: 10/26/2009: HDTV Sparky: WJZ-DT CBS 13 in Baltimore now has local news in HDTV.


6/18/2009: Marcus Carr: Cox announces that they have added Disney Channel and ABC Family HD channels to their line up.


6/12/2009: Cyclone: Digital Transition day. Numerous Analog TV signals were terminated today.


5/24/2009: Knicks_Fan: DirecTV has added WETA-DT to their HD lineup.


5/8/2009: Cyclone: Dish network has added Speed, FX, Logo, MavTV, and Fashion HD Channels to their lineup.


4/17/2009: affigatt: WFPT-TV Frederick Public TV - MPT has shutdown their analog signal on channel 62.


4/9/2009 Cyclone: Dish Network adds numerous Viacom HD channels today including: VH1, MTV, CMT, Comedy Central, BET, Spike, and Nickelodeon.


4/7/2009 cpldc: WJLA-DT ABC 7 has switched from 720p to 1080i.


4/7/2009: Marus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore has added WETA-HD.


3/24/2009: afiggatt: Verizon has added MASN-HD to their FiOS HD lineup.


2/24/2009: afiggatt: Verizon has added MLB-HD to their FiOS TV lineup.


2/18/2009: Cyclone: WBFF-TV and WNUV-TV have both shutdown Analog broadcasts.


2/4/2009: Cyclone: Dish Network has added Fox Business News to its HD lineup.


2/2/2009: Marcus Carr: Dish Network adds Fox News HD to their lineup. More HD expected later this week.


2/1/2009: Cyclone: Dish Network removed Smithsonian and substituted The "Crime and Investigation" channel.


1/31/2009: Knicks_Fan: WTTG-DT launches their local newscast in HDTV.


1/27/2009: euckersw: COX adds Fox Business, Cartoon Network, WE, IFC, Comedy Central, E!, Biography, and MLB HD channels to their lineup.


1/23/2009: machpost: RCN adds Tennis Channel HD to its lineup.


1/21/2009: Cyclone: DirecTV adds Comedy Central HD to their lineup.


1/6/2009: markbulla: WBFF returns 45.2 to the air on 1/12 with ThisTV featuring MGM programming.


1/4/2009: AntAltMike: RTN Retro TV has gone off the air on WJLA's 7.3 sub-channel. It returned later the next day.


1/3/2009: djp952: WBAL-DT has launched the 2nd local HDTV News broadcast in Baltimore.

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Analog (NTSC) shutdown Information

Station|Network|NTSC Analog|ATSC Digital|Proposed Date|Actual Date|Comment
WMAR|ABC|2|38|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WRC|NBC|4|48|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WTTG|FOX|5|36|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WJLA|ABC|7|7|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WUSA|CBS|9|9|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WBAL|NBC|11|11|6/12/09|6/12/09|Weak Signal
WPXW|ION|60|38|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WJZ|CBS|13|13|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WFDC|UNI|14|15|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WDCA|MyNet|20|35|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WMPT|PBS|22|42|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WUTB|MyNet|24|41|6/12/09|6/12/09|Directional Weak to South
WETA|PBS|26|27|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WNVT|Mhz|53|30|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WHUT|PBS|32|33|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WBFF|FOX|45|46|2/17/09|2/17/2009|Shutdown
WDCW|CW|50|50|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WNUV|CW|54|40|2/17/09|2/17/2009|Shutdown
WNVC|Mhz||24|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WFPT|PBS|62|28|4/16/09|4/16/2009|Shutdown
WPAX|ION|66|43|6/12/09|6/12/09|
WMPB|PBS|67|29|6/12/09|6/12/09|


Listing of Digtial stations in the Washington / Baltimore Region:
002-01 38 ABC (http://abc.abcnews.go.com) WMAR-DT (http://www.insidebaltimore.com/) HDTV DD5.1
002-02 38 ABC WMAR-DT (http://www.insidebaltimore.com/) SD
002-03 38 ABC WMAR-DT (http://www.insidebaltimore.com/) Weather Net (http://www.abc2news.com/weather)
004-01 48 NBC (http://www.nbc.com) WRC-DT (http://www.nbc4.com) HDTV DD5.1
004-02 48 NBC WRC-SD (http://www.nbc4.com) Weather Plus (http://www.nbc4.com/weather/index.html)
004-03 48 NBC WRC-SD (http://www.nbc4.com) Universal Sports (http://www.universalsports.com)
005-01 36 FOX (http://www.fox.com) WTTG-DT (http://www.fox5dc.com) HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
007-01 07 ABC (http://abc.abcnews.go.com) WJLA-DT (http://www.wjla.com) HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
007-02 07 ABC WJLA-DT (http://www.wjla.com) Weather Now (http://www.wjla.com/weather)
007-03 07 ABC WJLA-DT (http://www.wjla.com) RetroTV (http://www.rtnville.com)
009-01 09 CBS (http://www.cbs.com) WUSA-DT (http://www.wusatv9.com) HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
009-02 09 CBS WUSA-DT (http://www.wusatv9.com) Doppler (http://www.wusatv9.com/weather/doppler/barrons/max.jpg)
011-01 11 NBC (http://www.nbc.com) WBAL-DT (http://www.thewbalchannel.com) HDTV Has local news in HDTV
011-02 11 NBC WBAL-SD (http://www.thewbalchannel.com/wbal) Weather Plus (http://www.thewbalchannel.com/weather/index.html) Live - Stream (http://mfile.akamai.com/12903/live/reflector:38158.asx)
013-01 13 CBS (http://www.cbs.com) WJZ-DT (http://www.wjz.com) HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
014-01 15 UNI (http://www.univision.com) WFDC-DT (http://www.wfdc.entravision.com) SD
020-01 35 MyNet (http://www.mynetworktv.com) WDCA-DT (http://www.upn20wdca.com) HDTV
022-01 42 PBS (http://www.pbs.org) WMPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT-HD DD5.1
022-02 42 PBS WMPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT 2
022-03 42 PBS WMPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT V-me
024-01 41 MyNet (http://www.mynetworktv.com) WUTB-DT (http://www.upn24.com) HD
026-01 27 PBS (http://www.pbs.org) WETA-DT (http://www.weta.org/tv/dtv) HDTV DD5.1
026-02 27 PBS WETA-DT (http://www.weta.org/tv/dtv) Create
026-03 27 PBS WETA-DT (http://www.weta.org/tv/dtv) Family (http://www.pbskids.org)
026-04 27 PBS WETA-DT (http://www.weta.org/tv/dtv) TV 26 (http://www.weta.org)
030-01 24 MHz (http://www.mhznetworks.org) WNVC-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz1 WorldView
030-02 24 MHz WNVC-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz2 NHK World - Japanese
030-03 24 MHz WNVC-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz3 MCN - Metro Chinese Network
030-04 24 MHz WNVC-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz4 RT - Russia Today (in English)
030-05 24 MHz WNVC-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz5 Al Jazeera English
030-06 30 MHz (http://www.mhznetworks.org) WNVT-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz6 SABC - South African Broadcast Network
030-07 30 MHz WNVT-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz7 France 24
030-08 30 MHz WNVT-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz8 NTA - Nigerian TV Authority
030-09 30 MHz WNVT-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz9 VTV 4 - Vietamese
030-10 30 MHz WNVT-DT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) MHz10 Euronews
032-01 33 PBS WHUT-DT (http://www.howard.edu/tv) HDTV
032-02 33 PBS WHUT-DT (http://www.howard.edu/tv) SD
045-01 46 FOX (http://www.fox.com) WBFF-DT (http://www.foxbaltimore.com) HDTV DD5.1 Has local news in HDTV
045-02 46 ThisTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_TV) WBFF-DT (http://www.foxbaltimore.com) SD
050-01 50 CW (http://www.thewb.com) WDCW-DT (http://wb50.trb.com) HDTV DD5.1
050-02 50 ThisTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_TV) WDCW-DT (http://wb50.trb.com) SD
054-01 40 CW WNUV-DT (http://www.foxbaltimore.com) HDTV DD5.1
062-01 28 PBS (http://www.pbs.org) WFPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT-HD DD5.1
062-02 28 PBS WFPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT 2
062-03 28 PBS WFPT-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT V-me
066-01 34 ionline (http://www.ionline.tv) WPXW-DT (http://www.paxwashington.tv) ion
066-02 34 ionline WPXW-DT (http://www.paxwashington.tv) qubo
066-03 34 ionline WPXW-DT (http://www.paxwashington.tv) ionW
066-04 34 ionline WPXW-DT (http://www.paxwashington.tv) Worship
067-01 29 PBS (http://www.pbs.org) WMPB-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT-HD DD5.1
067-02 29 PBS WMPB-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT 2
067-03 29 PBS WMPB-DT (http://www.mpt.org/about/digital.cfm) MPT V-me

Orange indicates VHF/UHF Digital Channel assignments
DD5.1 indicates Dolby Digital 5.1 capable stations




Who has what:


Local OTA OTA Wash Wash VA Balt Wash
Channel DishTV Direct Comcast RCN COX Millenium Comcast Verizon
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ABC 2 XS X X X
ABC 2.2 X X
ABC 2.3 X X X
NBC 4 XS XS X X X X
NBC 4.2 X X X X X X
NBC 4.3 X X
FOX 5 XS XS X X X X
ABC 7 XS XS X X X X
ABC 7.2 X X X X X X
ABC 7.3 X X X
CBS 9 XS XS X X X X X
CBS 9.2 X X X X X
NBC 11 XS X X X
NBC 11.2 X X X X
CBS 13 XS X X
TFA 14 X X
MyN 20 X XS X X X X
MPT 22 X X X X X
MyN 24 X X X
PBS 26 X X X X X X
MHz 30 X X X
FOX 45 XS X X X
CW 50 X XS X X X X
CW 54 X X X X
MHz 57 X X
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XS = Both OTA and Satellite availability.

Network Dish Direct Wash VA Balt Verizon
Channel Network TV Comcast RCN COX Millenium Comcast FiOS
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A&E X X X X X X
ABC Family X X X X X X
AMC X X X
AnmalPlanet X X X X X X X
BET X
BET Jazz X
Big10 X X X X X
Biography X X X X
Bravo X X X X
Cartoon Net X X X
CBS College X X
CMT X X X
CNBC HD+ X X X X
CNN X X X X X X
ComedyCntrl X X X
CrimeInv X X
CSNMA X X X X X X X
Discovery X X X X X X X
Disney X X X X X X
ESPN2 X X X X X X X X
ESPN News X X X
ESPN X X X X X X X X
ESPNU X X
E! X
Fashion X
Food X X X X X X X X
Fox Busines X X X X X X
Fox News X X X X X X
Fuel TV X
FX X X X X X X
Golf X X X X X X X
Hallmark Mv X X
HDNetMovies X X X X
HDNet X X X X
HD Theater X X X X X X X X
HGTV X X X X X X X X
History X X X X X X
HSN X
IFC X
Lifetime X X X
LifetimeMov X X X
LOGO X
MASN X X X X X X X
MAV TV X X
MGM X X X
MLB X X X X
MTV X X X
NatGeograph X X X X X X X
NBA TV X X X
NFL Channel X X X X X X X
NHL Network X X X X
Nickelodeon X X X
Palladia X X X X X X
PlanetGreen X X X
OutdoorCH2 X
QVC X
Science X X X X X X X
SciFI X X X X X X
Smithsonian X . X
Speed Chan X X X X X X
Spike X X X
TBS X X X X X X X
Tennis X X X
TLC X X X X X X X
TNT X X X X X X X
Toon Disney X X X
Travel X X X
UniversalHD X X X X X X X
USA X X X X X X
VH1 X X X
Versus X X X X X X X
WE X
Wealth X
WeatherChan X X X
WGN X X X X
World Fish X X
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HBO East X X X X X X X X
HBO West X X X
HBO 2 X X
HBO 2 W X
HBO Comedy X X
HBO Comdy W X
HBO Family X X
HBO Fam W X
HBO Latino X X
HBO Latin W X
HBO Signa X X
HBO Signa W X
HBO Zone X X
HBO Zone W X
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SHO East X X X X X X X X
SHO West X X
SHO TOO X X
SHO TOO W X
SHO Shwcase X X
SHO Shwcs W X
SHO Extreme X X
SHO Extre W X
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Cinemax E X X X X X X X X
Cinemax W X X X
CMax 5star X X
ActionMax X X
ActionMx W X
MoreMax X
MoreMax W X
ThrillMax X
ThrillMaxW X
WMAX X
At Max X
OuterMax X
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StarZ East X X X X X X X X
StarZ West X X
StarZComedy X X X
StarZ Edge X X X
Starz Kids X X X
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TMC X X X
TMC West X
TMC Extra X
TMC Extr W X
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Encore X X
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OTA Channels require antenna for reception. Reception varies by location.


Online HDTV Progam Guides:

Check HD (http://www.checkhd.com) - Pretty Good HD Line up site. In conjuction with titantv.com
HDTV Magazine (http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/programming/guide.php) - Lists only HDTV channels.
Titan TV (www.titantv.com) -Also contains an antenna direction page like antennaweb.
Zap 2 It (www.zap2it.com) - Online channel lineups.
HDTV Galaxy (http://www.hdtvgalaxy.com/broad.html) - Lists only HD shows


Other Links of Interest:

DTV Answers (http://www.dtvanswers.com) - a NAB site that gives consumers information about the upcoming discontinuance of Analog television broadcasting.
TV Fool (http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1) - Silly name, but it sums up a lot of us. This site has a great Antenna aiming tool and Google Broadcast coverage maps for each station. Well worth the look.
Antenna Web (http://www.antennaweb.org) - Will tell you. 1. What stations are available to you. 2. Where to aim your antenna to see the stations. 3. How strong of an antenna you need.
2150 (http://www.2150.com/broadcast) - Calculates Distance and Direction to nearby Digital stations.

Urbana Electronics (http://pages.frederick.com/store/urbana.htm) - TV Repair / Antenna service.
Mark Electronics (http://www.markelectronics.com) - Electronics Store in Beltsville which has many antennas and parts.
Radio Shack (http://www.radioshack.com) - Parts and accessories.
Solid Signal (http://www.solidsignal.com) - Online Antenna retailer

DCRTV.COM (http://www.dcrtv.net/index.html) - DC Radio/Television News site.

Local Antenna Installers:

Fairfax Antenna (http://www.fairfaxantenna.com/fairfax115/index.html) - Mention AVS Forum and receive 5% off. Testimonial #1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3216845#post3216845), #2 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3276640#post3276640), #3 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3886010#post3886010), #4 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4414435#post4414435), #5 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4528930#post4528930), #6 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5273443#post5273443).
Davis Antenna (http://www.davisantennainc.com) - Local Antenna Installer. Complaint #1 (http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=1349311#post1349311), #2 (http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=1349755#post1349755).
Action Antenna (http://www.actionantenna.com) - Baltimore area antenna installation shop. Complaint #1 (http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115318).
Consumer Antenna - Testimonial #1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3443370#post3443370), #2 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4383313#post4383313), #3 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4493088#post4493088), Complaint #1 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4434557#post4434557).
*ConsumerAnteanna link banned for bad p1mpage on this thread. tsk tsk

Local Cable Companies:

RCN Cable (http://www.rcn.com) - (DC, Bethesda & Gaithersburg) Formerly StarPower
COX Cable (http://www.cox.com) - Cox in Northern Virgina.
Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) - Mont Co. (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/comcast_mo_co/Index.html/index.htm) Comcast Sports Net - Mid Atlantic (http://midatlantic.comcastsportsnet.com) , No Digitial Tier required for HD Locals Comcast Press release (http://www.cmcsk.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=147565&p=irol-hdtv)
Adelphia (http://www.adelphia.com) - HDTV service now available in Frederick, MD & Winchester, VA. - Now owned by Comcast but link still works.
Millennium Digital Media (http://www.mdm.net/web/maryland) - Services the Anne Arundel County area. - Also a Comcast aquisition.
Verizon Fios (http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/Channels/fios/FiosTV_comingsoon.aspx) - Verizon's TV service.
Antietam Cable (http://www.myactv.net) - Another good HD lineup from a small cable co. West of Frederick.


Satellite Companies:

Dish Network (http://www.dishnetwork.com) - All HDTV receivers include a OTA tuner. $20 HD fee on top of regular programming package for HD channels. Carries DC HDTV locals. Requires at least two satellites dishes.
Direct TV (http://www.directtv.com) - Has a HDTV package for $10.99/mo. Wash DC HDTV locals are available from DirectTV but require a 5 lnb dish. DirectTV has a High Capacity Satellite in use and has added a considerable number of HDTV channels. They are currently the HDTV leader.


Old News:
12/30/2008: machpost: RCN (also FiOS & DirecTV) have added MLB-HD to their lineups.

12/17/2008: Marcus Carr: MPT-HD has been added by DirectTV for its Baltimore customers.

12/16/2008: SUOrangeman: Cox in Fairfax has added AMC, WGN, Fox News, FX, and Speed to their HD Lineup.

12/8/2008: Cyclone: WJLA-DT ABC 7 becomes the 2nd station in the Wash DC market to present their local newscasts in HD starting at the 12pm newscast today.

12/3/2008: Cyclone: Dish Networks Carries both Versus-HD and Golf-HD now that the two channels have separated. Same with DirectTV, FiOS, and Comcast.

12/2/2008: Cyclone: Test Day! At 5:28pm today the local broadcasters of Wash DC will perform a "DTV Test" by turning off their analog signals for 2 minutes to show viewers what the world will be like at the end of February. Participants are: WRC 4, WTTG Fox5, WJLA 7, WUSA 9, WDCA 20, WDCW 50, WETA 26, WHUT 32, WPXW 66, and WFDC 14.

11/20/2008: someone: Comcast has added Fox News, Fox Business News, FX, and Speed HD channels to their lineup.

10/30/2008: prth8machine: Verizon FiOS added several HD channels including: FX, Fox News, Fox Business, Speed, ESPN News, Disney, Toon Disney, ABC Family, WGN, Tennis, World Fishing, MAV, Biography, QVC, Planet Green, Travel, Hallmark Movie, & MGM.

10/29/2008: Steve_AA_Co_MD: Comcast in Anne Arundel has added Fox News HD, FX-HD, and the Speed Channel HD to their lineups.

10/17/2008: Marcus Carr: DirecTV adds Fox News Channel HD.

10/8/2009: markbulla: WBFF-DT has dropped the Good TV channel 45.2.

9/21/2008: parkay57: Verizon FiOS added the following channels to its HD lineup. TBS, Big10, Vs/Golf, OutdoorCh2, CNN, CNBC+, Weather, Science, History, Smithsonian, Animal Planet, TLC, Lifetime, SciFi, and Bravo.

9/13/2008: machpost: RCN has added ESPNU-HD to their lineup.

9/8/2008: Cyclone: A number of Syndicated programs premiered in HD today for the new fall season. Oprah, Ellen, Entertainment Tonight.

9/4/2008: cpldc: WRC-DT has added Universal Sports as a 2nd sub-channel. Ch 4.3.

9/3/2008: Scott Scherr: WUTB-DT 24 MyNetwork in Baltimore broadcasted for the first time in HD.

9/3/2008: afiggatt: WNVC-DT 57 Mhz has gone off the air for antenna replacement for its eventual move to UHF 24 next year. They will not return until WUTB 24 in Baltimore vacates UHF24 next February.

9/1/2008: someone: MHD changed their name to Palladia.

8/28/2008: prth8machine: FiOS has added ESPNU-HD.

8/14/2008: Marcus Carr: DirectTV adds Planet Green, ABC Family, Showtime Showcase and Showtime Extreme to its HD lineup.

8/8/2008: Cyclone: Most major providers (D*, E*, Comcast, COX, etc..) have added two new HD channels for Olympic coverage from Bejing. A Soccer HD and a Basketball HD channel have each been added to provide HD coverage along side of NBC-HD, Universal-HD, CNBCHD+, and USA-HD. additional SD coverage also available on Oxygen and MSNBC. Each provider also has special Olympic VOD programing.

8/1/2008: Cyclone: Dish Network added the Following HD Channels to their lineup today: Planet Green, Lifetime, Lifetime Movies, CBS College Sports, Encore, Action Max, Starz [West Comedy Edge Kids], and HBO [West, 2, Comedy, Latino, Signature, and Zone]. Dish also begins support for 1080p VOD movies today.

7/28/2008: Cyclone: WJLA-DT has dropped its locally produced "Local Point TV" experiment and favor of "Retro TV" on its 7.3 digital sub-channel.

7/9/2008: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore adds Disney, ABC Family, Science, and WGN to their HD lineup.

6/30/2008: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore adds digital WUTB-DT to their HD lineup. It is currently a 480i SD digital channel.

6/11/2008: Cyclone: Dish Networks adds WGN to its HD lineup.

6/3/2008: dcrtv: WBFF-DT Fox45 launched Baltimore's first local HDTV Newscast today.

5/30/2008: jaxjaggywires: COX in Va has added Bravo, CNBC HD+, USA, SciFi, & Lifetime to their HD channel lineup.

5/28/2008: dtv4u: WUTB-DT 24.1 MyNet in Baltimore is performing a "pre-transition full power test" at this time. Post feedback about your reception quality.

5/15/2008: Cyclone: Voom has had Dish network remove the remaining five Voom channels from their HD lineup.

5/15/2008: Berto1020: Comcast adds Disney, ABC Family, AMC, and Science Channel.

5/15/2008: kenrowe: Comcast in Montgomery County has added Disney, ABC Family, and Science Channel to their HD lineup.

5/13/2008: Cyclone: Dish network removed 10 of their 15 Voom channels at midnight. The Deleted channels are: HDNews, Ultra, Gallery, Animania, FilmFest, World Sport, Voom Movies, Family, Treasure, and Gameplay. The retained channels are: Rush, Rave, Monsters, Equator, and Kung Fu.

5/12/2008: Cyclone: Dish network added new HD channels to their HD Lineup today including the following channels: ABC Family, Biography, Bravo, Cinemax West & 5 Star, Disney, Toon Disney, ESPN News, Cartoon Network, MGM, Hallmark Movie, Tennis, Travel, CNBC HD+, and The World Fishing Network.

4/18/2008: Marcus Carr: Dish Network as added Sci-Fi and USA Network HD channels to their lineup.

4/16/2008: tonyd79: Dish network has added Baltimore HD channels to their line up. They also added CNN-HD.

4/9/2008: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore adds CNN-HD, Animal Planet-HD, TLC-HD, History-HD, and AMC-HD to their HD lineup.

4/4/2008: bucnasty: COX in Fairfax added Comcast Sports Net HD to their HD lineup.

4/2/2008: Marcus Carr: DirecTV added ESPNews, Disney, & Toon Disney HD channels to their lineup.

3/31/2008: Cyclone: MASN-HD (http://masnstudios.com/2007/09/find-masn.html) has been added to DirecTV, Comcast, COX, Millennium, RCN, and many other local MSO systems. No word from FiOS or Dish yet.

3/26/2008: machpost: WUSA-DT will be showing 2nd NCAA tournament game on their 9.2 digital sub-channel (Usually 24/7 Doppler radar) on Thursday 3/27. link (http://www.wusa9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=69740).

3/17/2008: afiggatt: WDCA-DT begins broadcasting syndicated "Everybody Loves Raymond" in HDTV.

3/12/2008 FineWare: DirecTV has added WDCW-DT ch 50 to their HD line up.

3/11/1008: chandler1818: RCN adds Discovery, TLC, Science, and Animal Planet HD channels to its HD lineup.

3/4/2008: BillyGreen23: Comcast in Arlington/Alexadria has added CNN, SciFi, USA, History, Food, HGTV, Discovery, TLC, and Animal Planet HD channels to their HDTV lineup.

2/29/2008: mapper: Cox adds the Travel Channel HD and Cinemax-HD to their lineup.

2/28/2008: machpost: RCN has added WDCA-DT to their HDTV Lineup.

2/23/2008: machpost: dcrtv (www.dcrtv.com) is reporting that Fox 5 news on WTTG-DT will go to High Definition sometime in May for sweeps.

1/7/2008: Marcus Carr: Dish Network announced that they will be adding Baltimore HD locals to their lineup in 2008.

1/3/2008: gary michaels: WJAL-DT 68 (digital 16) in Hagarstown has increased their power from 6 to 50kw.

12/28/2007: Marcus Carr: DirecTV has added The Tennis Channel HD, and CSTV HD to their HD lineup.

12/18/2007: raidbuck: Comcast has added TLC, Discovery, History, Sci-Fi and USA to their HD lineup.

12/11/2007: rob base: Comcast has added Comcast Sports Network HD to the New Market area. (formerly Adelphia turf)

12/3/2007: Marcus Carr: COX has added 11 HD channels to their HD lineup. Included are: Discovery, TLC, Animal Planet, Science, CNN, TBS, HGTV, Food, NHL, History, Vs/Golf. This may be SDV channels which require a COX Set Top box, so Cable Card customers may not receive these channels.

11/27/2007: Marcus Carr: DirectTV has added The Biography Channel to their HD lineup.

11/26/2007: GoIrish: Baltimore Comcast will add Discovery, TLC, History, USA, SciFi, CNN, & History HD channels on January 8th 2008.

11/20/2007: machpost: RNC in DC has added NFL, Food Network, HGTV, and MOJO to their HDTV lineup.

11/16/2007: SteveJB: WHUT-DT has corrected a PSIP issue and it now working for Dish Network and other receivers.

11/15/2007: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Frederick will add SciFi & USA networks to their HD lineup on Dec 8th.

11/14/2007: Cyclone: Direct TV adds Nickelodeon, Spike, CMT, MTV, & VH1 channels to their HDTV lineup.

11/8/2007: bfdtv: Verizon FiOS added Comcast Sports Net HD to their lineup. Channel 829.

11/7/2007: afiggatt: Verizon FiOS has added Discovery-HD to their lineup.

10/31/2007: Marcus Carr: DirectTV has added NHL-HD to their line up.

10/30/2007: kurkbidc, kenrowe: Comcast has added A&E-HD, Food-HD, HGTV-HD & Universal-HD to some additional DC area markets.

10/29/2007: Marcus Carr: Dish Network and DirectTV have added NBA-TV to their HDTV lineups.

10/17/2007: Cyclone: Dish Network has added NHL-HD to their lineup.

10/15/2007: afiggatt: Verizon has added A&E-HD to their lineup.

10/15/2007: Cyclone: Direct TV has added six more HD channels today. Fox Business News, HGTV-HD, Fuel TV, FX-HD, Speed Channel HD, and Cartoon Network HD. They also added 7 HD-PPV channels and some RSNs for other regions.

10/10/2007: Cyclone: DirectTV added Food-HD, National Geographic Channel HD, MGM-HD, and CNBC-HD+ today.

10/5/2007: Cyclone: Dish Network has added TBS-HD for MLB play off action.

10/4/2007: gary michaels: WHUT-DT was spotted on the air today broadasting in 480i. It was off the air later that evening.

10/4/2007: Marcus Carr: DirecTV has added MHD to their lineup.

10/3/2007: Marcus Carr: DirectTV adds Bravo-HD, SciFi-HD, USA-HD, HBO West, Cinemax E&W to their HD lineup. Also Comcast Sports Net is now available to Baltimore area customers.

10/2/2007: machpost: RCN has added TBS-HD to their HD lineup.

10/1/2007: Berto1020: Comcast has added TBS-HD ch 232 to their lineup. Food-HD was added in Baltimore.

10/1/2007: mapper: The Tube Music network has stopped operations and is no longer shown on 50.2 WDCW-DT.

9/26/2007: Marcus Carr: Dish Network has added Comcast Sports Network-HD to their HD lineup.

9/26/2007: Marcus Carr: DirectTV added 21 new HDTV channels today. This includes: A&E-HD, AnimalPlanet, BigTen-HD, CNN-HD, Discovery-HD, History Channel-HD, TLC-HD, TMC-HD, NFL-HD, Science-HD, SHO-W, SHO-TOO, Smithsonian-HD, 5x Starz, TBS-HD, WeatherChannel-HD, & Vs/Golf-HD. More is expected by the end of the year.

9/25/2007: jaxjaggywires: COX has added NFL-HD to their lineup.

9/20/2007: SJKurtzke: WDCW-DT says that they are to be included in DirectTV's HDTV lineup by Jan 2008.

9/20/2007: Marcus Carr: Cox to add Discovery-HD, TLC-HD, Science-HD, and Animal Planet-HD in Oct.

9/12/2007: GoIrish: Comcast has announced several HD additions for 10/1 including TBS-HD & Food-HD. Also A&E-HD for DC area.

9/12/2007: Cyclone: Dish Network added 8 HD-PPV channels and Big10-HD to its lineup.

9/12/2007: machpost: RCN in D.C. has added Golf/Vs-HD to their lineup.

9/11/2007: billodom: WDCW-DT has the syndicated show Two & a Half Men showing HDTV. Aside from Jeopardy and WoF, this is the first time a syndicated show is shown in HDTV.

9/10/2007: Cyclone: A fire has taken NFL-HD, History-HD, and A&E-HD off the air for Dish Network & other providers.

9/4/2007: Marcus Carr: Dish Network has added The History Channel-HD to their HD lineup.

8/21/2007: tanfan: MPT-HD will now only show PBS-HD programming only when "True HD" shows are on the schedule. PBS-HD has in the past consisted of mostly SD widescreen shows. Expect to MPT-HD to only be HD on a part time basis, even during primetime.

8/15/2007: Cyclone: Dish network has added Discovery-HD, Animal Planet-HD, TLC-HD, Discovery Science-HD, Versus/Golf-HD, & MTV-HD to their HD lineup today.

8/8/2007: dcrtv: DCRTV (www.dcrtv.com) has an update from the latest FCC documents on where our local channels will broadcast from when analog cutoff happens in 2009.

Back to original channel:
WJLA on 7, WUSA on 9, WBAL on 11, WJZ on 13, and WDCW on 50

Remain on current digital channel:
WRC on 48, WTTG on 36, WFDC on 15, WDCA on 35, WMPT on 42, WUTB on 41, WETA on 27, WHUT on 33, WBFF on 46, and WNUV on 40

Change to a new digital channel:
WMAR on 38 (WJZ's current digital channel), WPXW on 34 (WUSA's current digital channel), and WNVC on 24 (WUTB's current analog channel)

7/28/2007: zebras23: Verizon will upgrade the guide software for their STBs in this area on 8/23.

7/28/2007: poppagene: WETA-DT appears to have gone to full strength. Perhaps they have finally relocated to their new Tower.

7/20/2007: stuffedmonkey: RCN in D.C. has added ESPN2-HD as well as TNT-HD and National Geographic HD.

7/10/2007: Marcus Carr & GoIrish: Comcast in Baltimore Hartford County has added A&E-HD and HGTV-HD to their lineup.

7/6/2007: Knicks Fan: WJLA-DT has begun showing Wheel of Fortune & Jeopardy in HDTV.

7/5/2007: chandler1818: RCN has added ESPN2-HD in Montgomery County.

6/30/2007: mdviewer25: WUSA-DT's Doppler radar on 9.2 has returned.

6/26/2007: voltore: WUSA-DT's Doppler Radar on 9.2 will be off the air for the new few days for some tests that requires its bandwidth.

6/25/2007: SUOrangeman: Cox in Fairfax Va added NatGeo-HD, A&E-HD, WDCA-DT, and WUSA-DT's supper Doppler radar (ie 9.2) to their HD lineup today.

5/31/2007: Parkay57: Cox announces that they will carry A&E-HD, NatGeo-HD, and WDCA-DT My20 HD on June 25th.

5/26/2007: Robert Forsthe: WJLA-DT ABC7 will begin to show Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HDTV in July.

5/25/2007: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore announced that they will be adding A&E-HD & HGTV-HD to their lineup on July 10th.

5/16/2007: Frank Black: Comcast is going to acquire Millenium cable. Update: Deal was called off

5/15/2007: Cylclone: Comcast in Montgomery County has added WDCA-DT and Universal-HD.

5/4/2007: Cyclone: Dish Network has added Cinemax-HD to their HD lineup.

5/1/2007 :Cyclone: INHD changed their name to Mojo today.

4/30/2007: gccjr: Comcast sent a message to the STB today stating that WDCA-DT and Universal-HD will be added to their lineup on May 15th.

4/16/2007: lobozooma: Verizon Fios added Food-HD, HGTV-HD, and Lifetime Network Movies HD to their HDTV line up today. Wives rejoice!

3/6/2007: Cyclone: Looks like both WDCA-DT & WNUV-DT will both carry the HDTV broadcast of this weekend's ACC tournament.

3/4/2007: Cyclone: DirectTV has picked up the National Geographic Channel HD on a part time basis. Ch 77.

2/12/2007: Pyrr: Comcast in former Adelphia Turf (Frederick) has removed HDNet and HDNet Movies from their lineup. NGC-HD has been added.

2/1/2007: Cyclone: Dish Network has added A&E-HD to their HD Lineup.

1/24/2007: Robert Forsythe: WJLA has launched Local Point TV (http://www.localpointtv.com) on the 7.3 sub-channel. Offers local oriented programming.

1/19/2007: bbt: Comcast posted in the Frederick Post that on Feb 12, 2007 that HDNet and HDNet movies would be replaced with TNT-HD, CSN-HD, and NGC-HD.

1/11/2007: Marcus Carr: Comcast has added National Geographic - HD (ch 224) and Versus-HD/Golf Channel HD (ch 255) to their HD lineup.

1/1/2007: markbulla: The Tube has been discontinued on 54.2. Its still on in D.C. on WDCW 50.2.

12/21/2006: markbulla: WNUV-DT will cease running The Tube on 54.2 at the end of the year.

12/11/2006: wmcbrine: WRC hinted tonight on their newscast that they would changing news studios and that they will be in HDTV when they return by the end of the year.

12/4/2006: Marcus Carr: MHD (MTV-HD) has replaced INHD2 on the Comcast lineups.

11/28/2006: PaulGo: Montgomery County has approved the Franchise agreement for Verizon's FIOS TV.

11/28/2006: CuseHokie: Cox Cable has added ESPN2-HD.

11/20/2006: fmsjr: WMAR-DT has begun to broadcast Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HDTV tonight. This is the first syndicated programming to be offered in HDTV in the area.

10/7/2006: afiggatt: WMAR-DT is working on getting the equipment needed to show Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy in HDTV. Looks to be available in a few weeks.

10/3/2006: dg28: WDCA-DT has fixed their HDTV problem and is finally showing MyNetwork programming in HD.

9/16/2006: Clubdeluxe: Fox Owned WTTG-DT (Fox5) & WDCA-DT (My20) have started broadcasting from their new (and higher) antennas.

9/16/2006: dipdewdog: Comcast in D.C. has added MHD (MTV HD) to its lineup. INHD2 persists also.

9/13/2006: kenrowe: Verizon and Montgomery County have finally reached a FiOS TV franchise agreement. No word on when service will become available.

9/12/2006: Cyclone: WNVC-DT and WNVT-DT both now have programming on their MHz3 & MHz4 channels. These had been banners before.

9/6/2006: SJKurtzke: NBC O&O WRC-DT will be producing local news in HDTV "soon" according to a Broadcast and Cable article. WTTG-DT Fox5 is also rumoured to be going HDTV "soon".

9/6/2006: Cyclone: MyNetwork launched last night on the former UPN affiliates of WDCA and WUTB. The HDTV launch on WDCA My20 was a bust with the signal having to be switched to SD after the HD audio was pure static. WUTB remains SD only and stretched their image.

9/2/2006: various: WDCW-DT's The Tube has begun to appear on numerous Cable Networks.

9/2/2006 :afiggatt: WDCA-DT has switched from 1080i to 720p for its HDTV format. The station will be changing from UPN to MyNetwork network affilations soon.

9/1/2006: SJKurtzke: WETA-DT has changed from running 1 HD + 1 SD channel during prime time and 4 SD sub-channels during non-primetime to running 1 HD and 3 SD channels full time. Expect HD picture quality to never be the same again.

8/23/2006: afiggatt: WDCW-DT has added "The Tube" on ch 50.2 on its Digital signal.

8/16/2006 Cyclone: Dish Network has added Food-HD to its HD lineup.

8/6/2006: JohnG: Millennium has added ESPN2-HD to its lineup.

8/1/2006: jsh5771: DirecTV has added Comcast Sports Net's HDTV channel to its line up. CSN-HD is on ch 629. Which oddly is the same number as the SD channel. There are two 629s at this time. 7/27/2006: SJKurtzke: DirectTV has added WDCA-DT to its HD Line up. This station will be an affiliate of the new "My Network" starting in the fall.

7/10/2006: dg28: DirectTV has announced that they will begin to carry Comcast Sports Net Mid-Atlantic's HDTV channel in August. DirectTV also now offers Baltimore Locals in HDTV.

7/2/2006: Steve_AA_Co_MD: Finally WDCA-DT has gone to full strength. This is the final hold out of a top station in the Metro area. Only Howard University WHUT-DT is absent from the airwaves.

7/1/2006: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore reports that WNUV-DT's 54.2 "The Tube" will be added to its lineup.

6/15/2006: CuseHokie: Cox in Herdon has added MHD & WDCW-DT to their HD Lineup today.

6/9/2006: Cyclone: Dish Network has added National Geographic HD, NFL-HD, HGTV-HD, and Starz-HD to their lineup today.

6/9/2006: Marcus Carr: ESPN2-HD has beed added to numerous Comcast systems today. Just in time for the begining of the World Cup. Ch 253.

6/8/2006: GoIrish: Comcast reports that it will be adding ESPN2-HD for Comcast customers in Baltimore City, Baltimore County, Harford County and Howard County. They should have ESPN2-HD by 8:00 p.m. tonight. Channel 253.

5/9/2006: markbulla: WNUV-DT has removed the 54.3 sub-channel from their broadcast stream. The tube remain on its new home at 54.2.

5/4/2006: mdviewer25: WBDC has changed their call letters to reflect their new affilation. They are now WDCW.

5/2/2006: markbulla: The Tube has been moved from 54.3 to 54.2 (along with some of the bandwidth), and WBFF-DT has put their "Good TV" programming on 45.2. If everything pans out, 54.3 will be removed.

5/2/2006: ht-movie-guy: Verizon has added NatGeo-HD, HDNet, and MTV-HD to their Fios TV lineup.

4/28/2006: markbulla: FOX45 in Baltimore will launch new programming on 45.2 in the format of "Good TV". They will cease with SD digital simulcast. Also sister station WB54 will drop its SD simulcast and bump "The Tube" over to 54.2 and shutdown 54.3. Changes to occur on Monday. Its reported that Comcast in the Balt region will carry the WBFF-DT channel.

4/18/2006: Cyclone: Dish Network has moved Baltimore SD locals from the 105 Super Dish slot to the Dish500 110 slot. DC area customers can now get EPG info for Baltimore OTA channels.

3/16/2006: Marcus Carr: Verizon's FIOS TV is now available in Howard County, MD. This is the first area in MD where FIOS TV is available.

3/9/2006: kenrowe: WB50 will be adding "The Tube" this summer.

3/8/2006: Cyclone: NBC 4 has continued to carry DD5.1 now that olympics have concluded. So hopefully this is permanent.

2/28/2006: Cyclone: Washington HD Locals have been spotted on Dish Network's 61.5 satellite. No word yet on their availability. Seen: NBC4, Fox5, ABC7, & CBS9.

2/27/2006: euckersw: Comcast has removed Universal-HD from its lineups now that the 2006 Winter Olympics have concluded. Except in Anapolis where its still available for some reason.

2/17/2006: Cyclone: DirectTV has added TNT-HD to their lineup. Ch 75.

2/8/2006: Marcus Carr: Comcast has added Universal-HD just in time for the Olympics. This may be a temp channel, and its pre-empting INHD2 in some areas.

2/6/2006: fmsjr: WMAR-DT's sub-channels are back on the air.

2/1/2006: Cyclone: Dish Network has added ESPN2-HD, Universal-HD, and 5 new Voom channels to their HD lineup. Bad news is that it requires: A new Pricing tier, Replacement of your HD STB with a new MPEG-4 STB, and if you lease... a 18 month commitment.

2/1/2006: drkashner: WMAR-DT has both of its sub-channels 2.2 & 2.3 off the air.

1/24/2006: someone CBS and WB have announced that they will be merging the UPN and WB networks into a single network to be called "CW". Tribune owned WB50 will the DC affiliate for this new CW network. No word on what will happen in Baltimore, or what will happen to Fox owned WDCA UPN 20.

1/23/2006: Cyclone ESPN-HD and ESPN2-HD have switched from SRS surround sound to DD5.1.

1/17/2005: HDBeat: MTV-HD has launched on certain Verizon and Cox cable systems in California and Florida.

1/3/2006: Marcus Carr: Howard County has granting permission to Verizon to offer Fios TV service. Hopefully the dominos will fall fast in MD.

1/1/2006: BillyJB: Millinium has swapped CBS HD affiliates. Baltimore's WJZ-DT has been dropped in favor of Washington's WUSA-DT. Considering that WUSA produces all of their local news and studio shows in HD, this is good news for Millinium customers.

12/21/2005: cawgijoe: First reported installation of DirectTV's local HDTV channel hardware. Looks good. post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6765258&&#post6765258).

12/20/2005: dt_dc: Cox in Va has added WRC-DT's Weather plus to its lineup as ch 803.

12/8/2005: Cyclone: DirecTV is now offering Local Washington D.C. HDTV channels via its satellites. NBC-4, FOX-5, ABC-7, and CBS-9 are now available. Customers will need have a DirecTV MPEG-4 compatible HDTV receiver as well as one of DirectTV's new 5 LNB Satellite Dishes to receive these channels.

12/6/2005: BillyJB: Millennium Cable has added WMPT-DT (HD & Sub-channels) digital programming to their lineup.

11/23/2005: Mark Bulla: WNUV-DT has pulled the AccuWeather.com feed from 54.2. It is now a SD simulcast of 54.1.

11/23/2005: kenrowe: Ken posted a link to a pdf containing Verizon's Herdon FiOS TV lineup (http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/Includes/FiOSTV/HerndonLineup.pdf).

11/19/2005: dg28: DirectTV has announced that they will carry the Washington D.C. locals in HD in December.

11/19/2005: Cyclone: Verizon FiOS TV is now available in Herdon, Va according to this article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/18/AR2005111802417.html) in the Wash Post.

10/17/2005: DCRTV (www.dcrtv.com): Comcast in Baltimore has added WBAL-DT's Weather Plus to their lineup. Ch 208.

10/15/2005: ZIZ3259: Millennium Cable has added WBAL-DT's Weather Plus to their lineup. Ch 400.

10/12/5: Hoopnoop: Adephia in Loudon County has added WETA-HD ch 726 to its HDTV lineup.

10/11/05: CuseHokie: COX in Northern VA has added TNT-HD as ch 714.

9/29/2005: DCRTV: RCN (ie formerly Starpower) has a deal to add WBDC-DT WB50 to their HDTV lineup.

9/9/2005: Cyclone: Verizon has released their Fios TV Lineup for Keller, TX. It includes the following HDTV channels: TNT-HD, ESPN-HD, ESPN2-HD, NFL-HD, HDNet, HDNet Movies, Universal-HD, Discovery HD Theater, Wealth-HD, HBO-HD, SHO-HD, MAX-HD, Starz-HD, & TMC-HD. It also included local HD network affiliates too.

9/8/2005: Cyclone: DirectTV has added ESPN2-HD to its HDTV lineup as ch 72.

9/3/2005: gary michaels: WHUT-DT was spotted testing. Will the final analog-only TV station in the DC market go Digital soon? Looks like it.

9/2/2005: Cyclone: WBAL-DT has changed their 11.2 sub-channel to NBC's Weather Plus format.

9/2/2005: Cyclone: Dish Network has added the HDTV NFL channel to its lineup as ch 9464. It is not a full time channel and will time share with HD-PPV.

9/1/2005: markbulla: WNUV-DT has added sub-channel 54.3 to its line up. It a music video channel called "The Tube (http://www.thetubetv.com)".

9/1/2005: Marcus Carr: WBAL-DT has stopped stretching their digital signal and now uses Gray side bars like WJZ, WBFF, & WNUV.

8/31/2005: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore city has added WNUV-DT (ch 214) to their HDTV lineup.

8/29/2005: Peter A Dionne: WNUV-DT has started a Weather channel on 54.2 with a very low bitrate. Mark Bulla hints that a cool surprise is coming soon to 54.3 too.

8/29/2005: mjones73: CBS premiered Late Night with David Letterman in HDTV last night.

8/21/2005: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore has added The NFL Network in HDTV on channel 254.

8/16/2005: Cyclone: ESPN2-HD will begin on DirecTV on September 6th. Also ABC will not have HDTV during the period of Aug 23rd - 26th due to network upgrades.

8/15/2005: KenH: CBS will premier Late Night with David Letterman in HDTV next Monday Aug 29th.

8/7/2005: whjeffs: Millinium now offers the Dual Tuner 6412 HDTV DVRs.

8/5/2005: MrMike6by9: Comcast in Baltimore County has announced that they will carry WB54 WNUV-DT begining on Aug 31st. 7/23/2005: gary michaels: WRC-DT has the sub-channel 4.3 on the air. No programming on the channel though. Some material was spotted during the testing. The sub-channel was later removed.

7/19/2005: dneily: Comcast in P.G. County has finally added TNT-HD to its lineup.

6/30/3005: Marcus Carr: Comcast in Baltimore city has moved their HD channels in the lineup. They have also added WMAR's Digital WeatherNet.

6/14/2005: jgantert: Comcast in Howard County has added WMAR-DT's Weather Net channel to its lineup.

5/23/2005: BillJB: Starz-HD is now available on Millenium Cable. Must call to activate.

5/18/2005: jgantert: Comcast in Howard Co. has swapped Fox5 for Fox45. Baltimore area Comcast system which had carried Fox5 in HD during the negotiations with Sinclair appear to be replacing them with Fox45 now that a agreement is in place. Annapolis reports to currently have both.

5/14/2005: Steve_AA_Co_MD: WFDC-DT 14.1 (on UHF 15) is now on the air.

5/9/2005: f44: Comcast in Montgomery County MD has added TNT-HD.

5/3/2005: JoeInNVa, afiggatt & zurchguy: Comcast in Arlington, Alexandria, Prince William and Reston have added TNT-HD to their lineups. Ch 249.

5/2/2005: jerwin: MPT has re-numbered their sub-channels moving the Main MPT channel to x.1, the HD to x.2, and the others to the remaining x.3, x.4, & x.5.

5/2/2005: Cyclone: WUSA-DT begins the D.C. Area's first HDTV local newscast. WUSA-DT is one of only a handful of local TV stations nationwide to produce local news in HDTV.
5/2/2005: Foxbat121: COX after a quick tease, has included WETA-DT to its HDTV lineup along with the daytime two SD sub-channels.
5/1/2005: Cyclone: Dish Network has added 10 of Voom's 21 HDTV channels to their lineup, while the Voom DBS service has now gone off the air. The Voom channels will be available to other DBS and Cable system as well.
4/30/2005: bullwinklehdtv: Not HDTV, but DirectTV has added MASN to its lineup to provide Nats games.
4/29/2005: Cyclone: Dish Network has announced that they will begin to carry 10 of the former Voom exclusive channels starting on Sunday May 1st. The VoOm (http://www.voom.com) DBS service is scheduled to shutdown at the end of April.
4/26/2005: tahoerob: Adelphia in Winchester has added Cinemax-HD, ESPN2-HD, DiscoveryHD, and the NFL-HD channels.
4/26/2005: Cyclone: NBC premiered Conan O'Brien in HDTV tonight.
4/26/2005: rshear: COX in Fairfax has added WETA-DT PBS to its HDTV lineup, and then pulled them later that night. This had included the HD channel as well as the 3 SD sub-channels.
4/25/2005: f44: WUSA has a "Coming in 7 Days" banner for their HDTV newscasts on their site.
4/22/2005: Marcus Carr: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Baltimore City (and Howard County) have added TNT-HD to their lineups.
4/21/2005: Bill Johnson: WJLA-DT & WUSA-DT are back on the air and with very strong signal strengths.
4/21/2005: Cyclone: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) is buying up Adelphia in the area west of DC. Unknown as this time what changes this will bring. Time Warner will also get some of Adelphia, but its likely to be outside of the Balt/DC market.
4/21/2005: robertforsyth: Installation work on the WJLA-DT/WUSA-DT tower appears to have been completed. The WJLA-DT signal may return to the air tonight at low power to shake out the new equipment. If all checks out, the stations could be back at full strength as early as tomorrow evening.
4/16/2005: Cyclone: WJLA-DT & WUSA-DT are now off the air while a new combiner (to allow WETA-DT & WHUT-DT to share the tower) is installed. The two stations will be off the air for several days. Comcast has a fiber feed for WJLA & WUSA, so their customers will be Ok. Not sure if any of the other cable companies have fiber feeds also.
4/15/2005: sgtjim: Comcast in Southern MD sent out a message that WMAR-DT's Weather radar will appear in the lineup as Ch 204 on May 14th.
4/12/2005: robertforsyth: WJLA-DT and WUSA-DT will be off the air starting Apr 16 for about 7 - 12 days. This is due to the work of installing a new combiner which will allow WETA-DT and WHUT-DT to be broadcast from the same tower. The signals will have to be down during the entire time. WETA-DT is currently broadcast at lowish power from a tower in Arlington, while WHUT-DT is not currently on the air.
4/12/2005: bullwinklehdtv: MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Network), home of the Nationals has its name listed in the DirecTV channel lineup as Ch 626. Not HD and not yet available to customers.
4/8/2005: Cyclone: Cablevision has announced that it will discontinue the VoOm (http://www.voom.com) HDTV heavy DBS satellite service at the end of April.
4/7/2005: Marcus Carr: Both WUSA-DT and WJZ-DT CBS affiliates will be showing coverage of the Masters on Thur/Friday on their HDTV channels only. Their SD channels will have normal programing. SD Masters coverage in on the USA Network.
3/30/2005: tahoerob: Adelphia in Winchester now has the SA 8300HD HDTV DVR available.
3/26/2005: Marcus Carr: WBFF and WNUV have added gray side bars to their 4:3 broadcasts. WJZ appears to have darkened their gray pillars.
3/16/2005: Marcus Carr: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) has returned Sinclair owned Fox45 to its HDTV lineup. Sinclair's WB affiliates are to be included later on this year.
3/15/2005: fmsjr: Millennium Cable has added WB54 to its HDTV lineup as ch 403.
3/8/2005: Cyclone: WTTG-DT has made another PSIP change. This appears to correct the tuning/mapping problems that many people have had since the begining of February.
3/7/2005: zafar: Cox Cable in Fairfax appears to have added StarZ-HD to their lineup. ch 714.
3/3/2005: dg28: Gannett owned WUSA-DT CBS 9 in D.C. has announced (http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=37637) that they will begin broadcasting their local news in HDTV soon. Sister station KUSA-DT in Denver currently does local news in HDTV.
3/1/2005: TahoeRob: Voom has given its 4 week notice. The HDTV heavy DBS service may discontinue service at the end of March. Efforts are underway to save it.
2/23/2005: GoIrish: Sinclair has pulled Fox45's HDTV channel from Comcast's HD lineup. It was added just a few week ago for the Superbowl.
2/18/2005: joblo: The DC/Balt area stations have decided on which VHF/UHF frequencies they will likely use after the Analog signals are shut off. Check in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5203474#post5203474) for details. Looks like we will need a VHF antenna for 7, 9, 11, & 13.
2/4/2005: GoIrish: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) Balitmore adds Sinclair owned WBFF-DT Fox45 to its HDTV lineup just in time for this weekend's Superbowl. It can be found on channel 213.
2/3/2005: Cyclone: Since FCC mandated PSIP changes took effect on Feb 1st, Dish Network 811 & 6000 along with some other brand ATSC tuners have had problems with WTTG-DT. Contact them (http://www.fox5dc.com/news/contact.shtml) if you are experiencing this to let them know of this problem.
1/28/2005: Cyclone: ABC has decided to pull the plug on ABC News Now (http://abcnews.go.com/Video/VideoLive). It is now off the air. WMAR-DT's 2.2 has returned to the SD 480i broadcast. WJLA-DT has launched Weather Now on 7.2. This appears to be much like WRC's Weather Plus specializing in local weather content.
1/20/2005: f44: Comcast has added WRC-DT's NBC Weather Plus to its digital cable lineup as ch 227.
1/17/2005: Cyclone: NBC Weather Plus has been localized on WRC-DT's 4.2. Washington weather is now shown frequently on the L-Bar, and Bob Ryan video updates loop regularly in the video pane.
1/10/2005: zafar: WJLA-DT's DD5.1 encoder is now active.
1/6/2005: Cyclone: ESPN2-HD launched today. Agreements in place for DirectTV & Adelphia systems, but not yet in the channel lineups.
1/6/2005: Cyclone: DirectTV announced that Washington D.C. will be among their 12 initial HDTV local markets to launch in the 2nd half of this year.
1/3/2005: Cyclone: WRC-DT's Weather Plus sub-channel is now active on 4.2. Also after a year plus, WRC-DT's PSIP ID is now fixed from "CH1" back to "WRC-DT".
12/31/2004: Cyclone: DirectTV adds ABC's NYC & LA HDTV feeds to their distant network offering. Neither Washington nor Baltimore are ABC O&O markets, so not many people around here are going to qualify for these channels.
12/30/2004: BillinVA: WRC-DT has been spotted broadcasting a 4.2 Weather sub-channel today. It was later withdrawn from testing.
12/20/2004: Cyclone: Direct TV now carries FOX-HD East & West. WTTG-DT is a Fox O&O so some people around here should qualify for it.
12/17/2004: FlipFantastic: COX in Fairfax has added UNI-HD to its HD line up.
12/16/2004: Mad Maximus: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Montgomery County now has the Dual Tuner HDTV DVR in stock. The remote is missing the "swap button" though.
12/13/2004: aaronwt: CBS airs the Primetime Drama CSI:Miami in DD5.1 for the first time tonight. Both WUSA and WJZ carried it correctly in DD5.1. I still wonder why NBC O&O WRC-DT can't do the same.
12/3/2004: asterix2112: COX in Fairfax will begin carrying Universal-HD (http://www.universalhd.com) on Dec 15th, and on Jan 1st Discovery HD Theater will become part of the HD package instead of requiring its own subscription. Update: according to Devin, its Uni-HD is already available.
12/2/2004: robertforsyth: WJLA-DT has received their DD5.1 Equipment, look for the DD5.1 indicator on your A/V receiver sometime next week. Update: Robert has posted a pic of their installed DD5.1 encoder in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4774669#post4774669)
11/30/2004: PaulGo: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) announced today that they are now offering HDTV OnDemand for the DC metro area. This includes HD programs & PPV movies that range from $4 to $6 per 24hr viewing.
11/29/2004: Cyclone: The NBA-TV HDTV (http://www.nba.com/schedules/national_tv_schedule/NBATVHighDef/) channel now appears to available to all HD package subscribers Dish Network (ch 9466).
11/16/2004: TimothyP: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Baltimore now offers the Motorola model 6412 Dual Tuner HDTV DVR.
11/16/2004: tahoerob: Adelphia in Winchester, VA has added the HD+ tier of channels like Loudoun, VA and Frederick, MD.
11/16/2004: DCRTV: DCRTV (http://www.dcrtv.com) is reporting that NBC Owned WRC will be launching a 24/7 Weather Channel on cable systems and as a sub-channel on their digital signal within 90 days.
11/15/2004: Cyclone: WB50 will air six Wizards games in HDTV this season. See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4660174#post4660174) for the schedule.
11/10/2004: Pyrr: Adelphia in Frederick adds the HD+ channels (HBO-HD, ESPN-HD, INHD, & INHD2) to its lineup and matches up with what they just rolled out in Loudoun county.
11/8/2004: leesweet: Lee eports in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4623308#post4623308) that UPN 20 likely will not have their digital signal up to full strength until mid 2006.
11/8/2004: pigatc: Adelphia in Loudoun County, VA has activated their HD+ package. This includes: NBC4, FOX5, ABC7, CBS9, ESPN-HD, INHD & INHD2, HDNet, HDNet Movies, HBO-HD, SHO-HD, & Starz-HD.
11/7/2004: Cyclone: The WB network initiated DD5.1 tonight with the Network Premier of Lord of the Rings. Looked and sounded great on WB54. WB50 however went dark during the broadcast. WB50 does appear to have DD5.1 enabled full time now on their Digital channel, even when the broadcast material isn't DD5.1. Just like WB54 does.
11/5/2004: pigatc: Adelphia in Loudoun County, VA has added WTTG-DT Fox5 ch 705.
10/28/2004: robertforsyth: WJLA ABC 7 has ordered their DD5.1 encoder and it will hopefully arrive and be active by the end of next week. Update: on backorder, end of year more likely.
10/15/2004: Cyclone: Dish Network's model 811 HDTV STB with firmware Rev 2.81 now supports the EPG for OTA channels.
10/7/2004: pigatc: Adelphia in Loudoun County, VA has added WJLA-DT ABC 7 ch 707 and HBO-HD ch 750.
9/28/2004: Cyclone: WFPT-DT 62.x Frederick's MPT affiliate returned to the airwaves today.
9/22/2004: dg28: WB54 in Baltimore began broadcasting HDTV & DD5.1 tonight.
9/19/2004: Cyclone: WB50 has dropped their 50.2 sub channel. There is only the 50.1 channel now. At one point in time, WB50 had 50.1, 50.2, 75.1, & 75.1 channels all running at the same time. Each was a identical copy of the same single program.
9/16/2004: Cyclone: DirectTV has added NBC-HD to its HDTV offerings. WRC NBC4 is an NBC O&O station, but you will need a waiver from WBAL if you are within their Grade A or B range. Check the DirectTV Eligibility (http://directvdnseligibility.decisionmark.com/app/AddressEntry.asp) website for qualifications & costs.
9/15/2004: JoeInNVa: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Alexandria has added Discovery HD Theater to its HD lineup. Ch 205.
9/14/2004: Cyclone: WB54 has added a HD subchannel. 54.2 has appeared running 1080i. Its showing SD programming at this time though.
9/12/2004: Cyclone: The Fox Network switched from EDTV to HDTV today. Both Fox affiliates carried the HDTV programming.
9/8/2003: Cyclone: WFPT-DT has gone off the air. Other MPT stations are still on the air.
9/8/2004: Cyclone: Sinclair owned WBFF-DT Fox45 in Baltimore broadcasts Fox Widescreen & DD5.1 for the first time tonight. Looks like they're ready for HDTV this weekend.
9/3/2004: steeler: WNUV-DT WB54 & WBFF-DT Fox45 in Baltimore have gone to full power.
9/3/2004: dt_dc: COX cable in Fairfax has added WTTG-DT Fox 5 to its lineup just in time for the start of the NFL season.
9/2/2003: Cyclone: The FOX network aired Big Momma's house in DD5.1. This was the first Fox movie ever with DD5.1. Update: It appears that all Fox network programming will have DD5.1 activated. Content will be DD5.1 simulated if not native.
8/31/2004: kenrowe: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Mont County has added WBDC-DT WB50 & Discovery HD Theater today.
8/30/2004: Cyclone: DirectTV has added BravoHD+ to their HD package today.
8/28/2004: Cyclone: Frederick MPT station WFPT-DT Digital 62.x (UHF 28) has gone on the air today.
8/28/2004: Wreckless: Adelphia in Frederick has added WTTG-DT FOX5 to its HD lineup.
8/18/2004: johnqpixel: Fox5 Washington WTTG-DT has shown up on Howard County's Comcast Digital lineup.
8/13/2004: Cyclone: The Olympics opened tonight. WRC-DT 4.1 premiered DD5.1 while WBAL-DT 11.1 HDTV & 11.2 SD remained with DD2.0 audio. The Olympics in HDTV are also available on Dish Network, DirectTV, and Voom with special NBC-HD feeds.
8/12/2004: xbgamer: WRC-DT was spotted transmitting DD5.1 tonight. More Olympic preparations?
8/12/2004: BillyJB: Millenium Cable in Anne Arundel county has added Baltimore ABC, NBC, CBS, & FOX channels to their HDTV lineup today. Just in time for the Olympic Coverage.
8/4/2004: steeler: WBAL-DT has started a 480i sub-channel 11.2. This will likely be used for the SD Olympic feed while 11.1 carries the separate 24hr delay 1080i HDTV Olympic feed from NBC.
7/30/2004: Devin Clancy: StarPower cable has added Cinemax-HD & Starz-HD to their HDTV lineup.
7/30/2004: Scott R. Scherr: Reports are that Fox45 may be installing their new FOX splicer soon. Also WNUV-DT WB54 in Balt will likely go Full Power, HDTV, and DD5.1 next Month.
7/29/2004: Andun: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Montgomery County adds a HDTV InDemand PPV channel to its lineup as HDPPV Ch 195 or Ch 185. Note: This was just be for that weekend's Mike Tyson fight.

7/26/2004: jeffthurmont: Fox 45 WBFF-DT appears to be HD/ED 720p capable today. There is a 45.1 and a 45.2 subchannel. They did not however show Fox Widescreen programming tonight.
7/26/2004: Cyclone: WMAR-DT launches the ABC News Now Political coverage on their 2.2 subchannel a few hours after WJLA-DT.
7/26/2004: Cyclone: WJLA-DT launches the ABC News Now Political channel on their 7.2 subchannel.
7/24/2004: steeler: WUSA-DT steps up and has put their Live Doppler 9000 radar feed up on a new 9.2 sub channel to fill the void created while WJLA-DT has their feed offline for political coverage. WUSA-DT had last used 9.2 for election coverage back in November of 2002.
7/23/2004: Cyclone: WJLA-DT has stopped their Super Doppler feed on 7.2 and has put a banner (http://home.comcast.net/~cyclone.gt40/images/wjla_72_pol.jpg) announcing that starting Monday at noon, that they will begin airing the ABC News Now political channel on 7.2. This channel is due to run through the 2004 Presdential election. This channel will be carried by numerous cable providers in the region.
7/21/2004: Pyrr: Adelphia in Frederick MD has begun HDTV service. WRC-DT NBC 4, WUSA-DT CBS9, SHO-HD, Starz-HD, HDNet, & HDNet Movies are now available.
6/30/2004: dneily: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in P.G. County has added WB50's HDTV station as channel 184 to their lineup today.
6/16/2004: pg12204: Discovery HD Theater has begun to appear Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) systems today. Baltimore, Hardford, and Howard counties.
6/13/2004: Cyclone: The WJLA-DT trouble continues. This time for Game 4 of the NBA finals. The signal is fluctuating so bad that no one can tune it in. Comcast's signal for WJLA-DT is also down. The fun begins with this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3927165#post3927165) post.
6/10/2004: Cyclone: WJLA-DT has trouble again. Their Picture is frozen (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3915903#post3915903) again this week for about an hour ruining the begining of 2nd NBA final game this week. Lucky are folks who can get WMAR-DT.
6/8/2004: JafCo: WJLA-DT is at it again, Tonight's NBA Final game was a frozen screen for the first part of the second half. When it did return it was in SD for a while.
6/4/2004: JBlacklow: WTTG-DT aired "Cats and Dogs" in 720p tonight. It was still a 480p copy, but it appears that FOX 5 is now HDTV capable.
6/4/2004: Foxbat121: COX now offers CableCard Service for $2.50/mo. here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3885513#post3885513)
5/21/2004: Cyclone: TNT-HD lauched today. Carriage by Dish Network and Voom. Not yet available on Local Cable or Direct TV.
5/19/2004: Cyclone: D.C. United's soccer game tonight will be in HDTV on both HDNet & Comcast Sport's Net.
5/16/2004: Cyclone: Today's Orioles game is on ESPN-HD for Sunday Night Baseball.
5/11/2004: steeler: WJLA-DT might have caught on quick. SD is no longer stretched.
5/7/2004: Cyclone: WJLA-DT has begun to stretch its SD shows in 7.1. Hopefully, they will learn what WB50 learned and will stop this ugly practice.
5/4/2004: Cyclone: WJLA-DT once again had more fun with their 7.2 subchannel. This time showing web surfing in the AM, and tracking UAL200 in the evening. It was fixed in time for the 11pm new's weather segment.
4/30/2004: Cyclone: VoOm (http://www.voom.com) has added ESPN-HD to their HD Lineup.
4/20/2004: zebras23: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Arlington has added WBDC-DT WB50's HDTV as channel 184 to their Digital Lineup.
4/15/2004: DCRTV: COX to add WETA-DT to its digital cable lineup.
4/10/2004: Cyclone: D.C. United vs L.A. MLS Soccer is on HDNet tonight. They play on HDNet again on May 19th, and July 14th.
4/10/2004: ND40oz: Millennium Cable serving North Anne Arundel County has begun HD service. 4 Channels; HBO, SHO, MAX, and ESPN-HD.
4/10/2004: mfranke: COX in NoVa will have their 8000HD DVR available on May 3rd.
4/6/2003: Cyclone: It appears that NBC ran a DD5.1 test in NYC on Sunday's broadcast of American Dreams. Will that come to DC/Baltimore anytime soon?
4/5/2004: LewisD: Comcast Sports Network HD (CSN-HD) has been added to StarPower channel lineups on Channel 168.
4/5/2004: vbjeff: WBAL-DT has now resumed HDTV broadcasting. They had reverted to SD for a few months while replacing equipment.
4/2/2004: Cyclone: The Orioles TV schedule has been posted. Most games on Comcast Sports Network will be in HDTV. The Sunday May 16th Game on ESPN will be in HD on ESPN-HD. There are also a few games on FOX. SD broadcasts will also been seen on WJZ 13, WDCA 20, & WNUV 54.
3/30/2004: BruceL: WUSA-DT has stated that they will broadcast the HDTV USA Network Coverage of the Masters Golf Tourn.
3/21/2004: aaronwt: WJLA-DT strikes (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3557600#post3557600) yet again. This time Alias is shown in SD and again, the frozen picture of a Carival cruise ship is seen.
3/18/2004: Banal: WJLA-DT Frozen screen: During ABC's Kingdom Hospital, The picture was frozen with the 4:3 SD shot of a Carnival Cruise ship commerical. The audio was till working. The first 15 minutes of the show were fine. here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=3542477#post3542477)
3/10/2004: Scott G: VoOm (http://www.voom.com) has announced (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=376995) that they are adding Encore-HD to their lineup when it launches on March 22nd.
2/18/2004: Cyclone: VoOm (http://www.voom.com) has added HBO-HD East & West and Cinemax-HD East and West to their HD Lineup.
2/18/2004: various: Death of the Bugs. It has been noted that WTTG-DT, WMAR-DT, & WUSA-DT have all stopped putting station id bugs on their screens 24/7. These bugs had only occured on their Digital stations, and were not present on their analog stations. WJZ-DT and WBAL-DT still have their bugs up full time. Update: WUSA-DT still shows their bug momentarily when returning from comercial breaks, and WMAR-DT's bug is back.
2/7/2004: mrtwister: WJLA-DT is now reportly airing its Super Doppler Radar (http://www.wjla.com/weather/banimatedoppler.html) on subchannel 7.2.
1/28/2004: RalphArch: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) in Montgomery County is now offering an HD DVR for $9.95/mo.
1/21/2004: DaveST: COX in Fairfax has added WUSA-DT CBS to its HDTV lineup (http://www.cox.com/Fairfax/DigitalTV/digitalchannellineup.asp) as channel 709.
1/21/2004: Cyclone: Maryland and Duke play Men's Basketball tonight on ESPN-HD at 9pm.
1/20/2004: Cyclone: The State of the Union Address was presented tonight on the Major Neworks in HDTV for the first time.
1/13/2004: raidbuck & mfranke: Both WTTG Fox5 DC and WBFF Fox45 Baltimore have sent emails out stating that they intend to broadcast HDTV this fall.
1/4/2004: Cyclone: Today's Wizards game on WB50 is in HDTV.
12/21/2003: Tahoerob: WRC-DT is now correctly mapping to 4.1, but their station id is now CH1 instead of WRC-DT. Wonder how long before they fix it.
12/21/2003: Cyclone: Comcast has added CBS Owned and Operated WJZ-DT Channel 13 in Baltimore to their Baltimore HDTV area line ups.
12/8/2003: carltonrice: WB50 Digital is off the air. So if you can't detect their signal, its not just you. Note, it returned to the air at 8:05pm on 12/9..
11/28/2003: bughunt: INHD & INHD2 are to be added to Cox in VA's lineup starting on Dec 1st. Also ESPN-HD will be part of the HD package and not a separate fee.
11/22/2003: Caps vs FL. Panther's game in HDTV on WB50. Next week the Wizards are in HDTV on WB50.
11/21/2003: JoeInVa: Cinemax-HD is now reported to be on Comcast channel 318 in Alexandria Va.
11/19/2003: tahoerob: WJLA-DT is now running a 7.2 sub channel. I was able to tune it in, but I don't see anything on there.
11/4/2003: SonomaSearcher: It is being reported (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=321731) that the Terps (http://umterps.ocsn.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/md-m-baskbl-sched.html) basketball game on 12/6 BB&T Classic will be carried on HDNet. I don't know what blackouts might apply.
11/4/2003 : WA2CHI: WNVT-DT UHF 30 is now on the air. 4 sub channels, might be the same as the other MHz WNVC-DT on UHF 57.
10/31/2003: kenrowe: Comcast in Montgomery County has finally added WTTG-DT Fox5 to its line up on Channel 183.
10/25/2003: Cyclone: Something has happened over at WRC-DT (http://www.nbc4.com/index.html). Their PSIP encoder must be broken since they are now tuning in at 48.1 instead of the normal 4.1. They transmit on UHF 48 and PSIP remaps it normally to 4.1.
10/16/2003: Cyclone: WB50 has provided us with a schedule for their HD broadcasts of the Wizards and the Capitals games that they will carry.
Capitals (http://www.washingtoncaps.com/games/index.cfm?cont_id=155205): 11/8, 11/22, 01/01, 01/31, & 2/21 Wizards (http://www.nba.com/wizards/schedule): 11/29 & 01/04
10/16/2003: Cyclone: ESPN-HD had a leak on their HD schedule and they showed that the University of MD Terps (http://umterps.ocsn.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/md-m-baskbl-sched.html) will have two HDTV games. 12/10 vs Florida & 1/21 vs Duke
10/15/2003: Cyclone: WDCA-DT UPN20 will not have HDTV ready for UPN's HDTV Premier tonight. They will have the HD equipment ready Thursday however. Expect a DC UPN HD Premier next Wednesday Oct 22nd. A HD movie "Double Take" is supposed to air on Oct 24th. No word on their intentions to increase the wattage of their broadcast.
10/11/2003: dg28: The Washington Caps game was carried in HDTV by WB50. No DD5.1 this time. I'm going to try to get a listing of WB50 HDTV Sport events if I can.
10/8/2003: joblo: Looks like WNVC-DT 57 is on the air. This appears to add 4 sub channels. No word on any High Definition broadcasts.
9/16/2003: Cyclone: The weekends Redskins game vs the Patriots will be the CBS HDTV game of the week.
9/16/2003: Cyclone: DishNetwork (http://www.dishnetwork.com) launches their HDTV package today. Included are ESPN-HD, DiscoveryHD Theater, HDNet, & HDNet Movies for $9.99/mo.
9/15/2003: Cyclone: INHD & INHD2 have been added to Comcast's HDTV lineup.
9/9/2003: Cyclone: I noticed new Multicast sub channels on MPT. Three new SD sub channels appear to have been added.
9/8/2003: Cyclone: Dish Network has announced a new HDTV package. It includes HDNet, HDNet Movies, Discovery HD Theater, and ESPN-HD for $9.99/mo.
8/27/2003: maximu360: It is being reported that WTTG-DT FOX 5 Digital Station has been added to the Comcast Digital Lineup. Also InHD has also been added.
8/11/2003: CycloneGT: FYI: The Redskins openning game will be on ABC on Thursday September 4th in HDTV. This will be a home game against the Jets at FedEx field. Note: All ABC Monday Night Football (http://espn.go.com/abcsports/mnf/schedule) games will be HDTV this year. CBS will have one game a week in HD. ESPN will have their Sunday night games in HD. FOX will have two of their Sunday games in EDTV.
7/25/2003: DCRTV (http://www.dcrtv.net/index.html): ESPN-HD has been added to the Comcast HD Lineup in Montgomery County. Expect it to be added to other Comcast areas quickly, possibly even today.
7/25/2003 : Dish Network announces that it will carry the CART Road America Race on HDNet on its Events channel. DirectTV users already have HDNet. No word yet from the Cable MSOs.
7/14/2003 : Dish Network Tech Chat reveals that all new HDTV channels (including HDNet & HDNet Movies) from Dish Network will require a new SuperDish satellite Dish. This dish will likely not be available until this fall.
7/13/2003 jeffthurmont: WMPB-DT MPT in Baltimore was spotted transmitting on 29. This showed up as 67.1 SD & 67.2 HD. No audio or video was transmitted, just signal. Update: Now transmitting MPT audio & video.
7/3/2003 Billodom : WETA-DT HD Showcase has been increased from 8pm - Midnight to 7pm - 6am on Weekdays and 4pm - 4am on Weekends. More HD is good. 26.1 is SD at other times.
7/1/2003 CycloneGT : DirectTV Launches HDTV package - ESPN-HD, DiscoveryHD, HDNet Entertainment, HDNet Movies.
6/30/2003 Billodom : WMPT-DT 22.2 & 22.6 is now reported to be at full power.
6/22/2003 Hampster : WBAL-DT 11 in Baltimore replaced their PSIP Encoder. The station is now on 11.1 instead of 59.1 and it is reported that their PSIP is now displaying program information.
6/2/2003 : Star Power launches their HDTV service. Includes several locals, ESPN-HD, Discovery HD Theater, HDNet, HDNet Movies. HBO-HD & SHO-HD are also available via subscriptions to their respective packages
5/10/2003 Glenn54: Comcast begins HD service in PG County.
4/29/2003 : WMPT-DT is now on 22.2 SD & 22.6 HDTV instead of 80.3.
4/12/2003 : WBDC-DT airs a NBA Washington Wizards (in old Bullets uniforms) game in HDTV & DD5.1. It was a Comcast Sports Net production.
2/13/2003 Gerald C: WBDC-DT now maps to both 50.1 & 50.2 as well as 75.1 & 75.2 for Dish 6000 users with firmware rev 7.77.
2/10/2003 dmbatch: WJLA-DT is now mapped to 7.1 instead of 39.1. Bad news is that 39.2 is gone (color bars)
1/1/2003: : WBDC-DT has first HDTV broadcast with the Rose Parade.
12/26/2002: : WBDC-DT begins digital broadcasting on 51.
11/5/2002: elinter: WDCA-DT UPN20 is broadcasting at very low power. 480i SD only.
11/5/2002: cosdog: WUSA-DT is using 9.2 for Election Coverage and 9.1 for regular station programming. Good use of their subchannel. It was removed a few days after the election.
11/1/2002: cosdog: WETA-DT 26.x begin multicasting 4 SD sub channels during the day, and reducing to a single HD and single SD channel in the evening.
10/26/2002: John_D: WNUV-DT WB54 goes on the air at low power in Baltimore on UHF 40. Only 480i SD programming.
10/16/2002: catvjim: Comcast (http://www.comcast.com) announced that it has launched HDTV programming in the DC area.
10/13/2002: albertso: HDTV channels have been spotted on Comcast Mont County's digital lineup.
10/2/2002: Hampster: WMPT-DT has increased their transmission power.
9/26/2002: carltonrice: WJLA-DT 39.1 begins ABC HDTV programming.
9/18/2002: Chuck Linder: WRC-DT has replaced their DTV encoder today. This should fix audio sync problems.
5/17/2002: Tim McCune: WETA-DT is on the air at UHF 27.
5/3/2002: Hampster: WUTB-DT UPN24 Baltimore has begun broadcasting at low power.
3/26/2002: tpfarr: WMPT-DT in Anapolis had begun low power broadcasting. UHF 42, shows up as 80.3.
8/1/2001: CBS-HD is now available from Dish Network for those who qualify.


Things left to look forward to:
WUTB-DT UPN 24 to begin full power broadcasting.
WBAL-DT to begin DD5.1 for HD programming.


Link to the previous
Wash / Baltimore Thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=517400). March 2005 - January 2007.
Wash / Baltimore Thread (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=275834). July 2003 - March 2005.
Link to the former DC Metro HD Thread (http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=126705). March 2002 - June 2003.

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 03:14 PM
LIST OF DC AND BALTIMORE OVER-THE-AIR DIGITAL STATIONS

Unless otherwise noted:

* All analog stations are digitally available in HDTV and Dolby Digital 5.1, and contain no subchannels.
* All subchannels listed are in SD and stereo.

WASHINGTON, DC AREA STATIONS

WRC (http://www.nbc4.com) NBC (http://www.nbc.com) Analog 4 / Digital 48
. One subchannel:
. 4-2: WRC WeatherPlus (http://wrc.weatherplus.com/wxplocal/index.html)
WTTG (http://www.myfoxdc.com) FOX (http://www.fox.com) Analog 5 / Digital 36
WJLA (http://www.wjla.com) ABC (http://www.abc.com) Analog 7 / Digital 39 NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 7 in 2009
. Two subchannels:
. 7-2: Doug Hill's WeatherNow (http://www.wjla.com/weather)
. 7-3: Local Point (http://www.localpointtv.com)
WUSA (http://www.wusa9.com) CBS (http://www.cbs.com) Analog 9 / Digital 34 Has local news in HDTV NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 9 in 2009
. One subchannel:
. 9-2: WUSA Live Doppler 9000 (http://www.wusa9.com/weather/weather_popup/doppler_barons.htm)
WFDC (http://www.wfdc.entravision.com) Univision (http://www.univision.com) Analog 14 / Digital 15 SD Stereo
WDCA (http://www.wdca.com) MyNetworkTV (http://www.mynetworktv.com) Analog 20 / Digital 35 Stereo
WETA (http://www.weta.org) PBS (http://www.pbs.org) Analog 26 / Digital 27 Stereo NOTE: Analog programming is not simulcast digitally
. Three subchannels:
. 26-2: PBS Create (http://www.createtv.com)
. 26-3: WETA Family
. 26-4: WETA World
WNVT (http://www.mhznetworks.org) Independent Digital-only 30 SD Stereo (WNVC-DT simulcast for areas of N. VA and southern MD)
. Four subchannels:
. 30-2: Russian World TV from 6 PM to 12 Mid.; Real Hip-Hop Network otherwise
. 30-3: France 24 News
. 30-4: Nigerian Television Authority
. 30-5: Russia Today
WHUT (http://www.whut.org) PBS (http://www.pbs.org) Analog 32 / Digital 33 SD Stereo
WDCW (http://www.thecwdc.com) CW (http://www.cwtv.com) Analog 50 / Digital 51
WNVC (http://www.mhznetworks.org) Independent Analog 56 / Digital 57 SD Stereo NOTE: Broadcasts digitally at weak power level
. Four subchannels:
. 57-2: Russian World TV from 6 PM to 12 Mid.; Real Hip-Hop Network otherwise
. 57-3: France 24 News
. 57-4: Nigerian Television Authority
. 57-5: Russia Today
WFPT (http://www.mpt.org) PBS (http://www.pbs.org) Analog 62 / Digital 28 (simulcast of WMPT; available in the northwestern DC region)
. Two subchannels:
. 62-2: MPT Select
. 62-3: V-me (http://www.v-me.tv)
WPXW (http://www.paxwashington.tv) ION (http://www.ionline.tv) Analog 66 / Digital 43 SD Stereo
. Three subchannels:
. 66-2: Qubo (http://www.qubo.com)
. 66-3: ION Life (http://www.ionlife.tv)
. 66-4: Worship (http://www.worship.net)
______________

BALTIMORE AREA STATIONS

WMAR (http://www.abc2news.com) ABC (http://www.abc.com) Analog 2 / Digital 52
. Two subchannels:
. 2-2: SD refeed
. 2-3: WeatherNet2 (http://www.abc2news.com/weather)
WBAL (http://www.wbaltv.com) NBC (http://www.nbc.com) Analog 11 / Digital 59 Stereo NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 11 in 2009
. One subchannel:
. 11-2: WBAL WeatherPlus (http://www.wbaltv.com/weather/index.html)
WJZ (http://www.wjz.com) CBS (http://www.cbs.com) Analog 13 / Digital 38 NOTE: WILL revert digital broadcasts to VHF 13 in 2009
WMPT (http://www.mpt.org) PBS (http://www.pbs.org) Analog 22 / Digital 42 (broadcasts from Annapolis)
. Two subchannels:
. 22-2: MPT Select
. 22-3: V-me (http://www.v-me.tv)
WUTB (http://www.wutb.com) MyNetworkTV (http://www.mynetworktv.com) Analog 24 / Digital 41 SD Stereo NOTE: Broadcasts digitally at weak power level
WBFF (http://www.foxbaltimore.com) FOX (http://www.fox.com) Analog 45 / Digital 46
. One subchannel:
. 45-2: AmericanLife TV Network (http://www.goodtv.com)
WNUV (http://www.cwbaltimore.com) CW (http://www.cwtv.com) Analog 54 / Digital 40
WMPB (http://www.mpt.org) PBS (http://www.pbs.org) Analog 67 / Digital 29 (simulcast of WMPT; broadcasts from near Owings Mills)
. Two subchannels:
. 67-2: MPT Select
. 67-3: V-me (http://www.v-me.tv)

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 03:24 PM
Looking at CycloneGT's post, YES it does have more info involving news, cable carriage, etc. But I contend that my list of OTA stations is cleaner and easier to navigate, at least for DC stations only so far. :) Let's see what everyone else thinks.

lax01
01-23-07, 03:29 PM
Welcome to thread Version 11.9.1.1a ;)

mjones73
01-23-07, 03:36 PM
"Let's see what everyone else thinks."

Personally I think your just repeating what he already posted in a different format with a little more detail about the sub channels. The original list in the first post serves it's purpose just fine though, not sure why you think it's hard to navigate.

mjones73
01-23-07, 03:38 PM
In case you all of you having problem with WBAL last night missed it in the short lived thread, markbulla posted that WBAL's PSIP problems appear to be fixed but 11-2 at the time doesn't have audio.

jimrobinette
01-23-07, 03:44 PM
Mike,

Why keep this up? Give deferance to those that have been here forever like Cyclone. Don't be a PIA.

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 03:55 PM
The original list in the first post serves it's purpose just fine though, not sure why you think it's hard to navigate.
The number one issue with the list is that the DC and Baltimore stations are grouped together, without reference as to where each station comes from. What if someone wants to pick up just DC stations? Also, that list didn't show the stations that would broadcast on VHF after analog shut-off. For someone new to HDTV, I don't want them to select an antenna only to have them have to put up a new one in the middle of winter of 2009. There are other misc. issues, but that would be nitpicking.

I do thank CycloneGT for his original post. I doubt my list could be done without his.

Mike,

Why keep this up? Give deferance to those that have been here forever like Cyclone. Don't be a PIA.
Sorry if I came across like that. I don't intend to be one; I just want to help people.

CycloneGT
01-23-07, 04:02 PM
Mike has a lot of enthusiasm and wants to contribute. So we should all welcome his efforts. While I am not willing to relinquish post #1 in the thread, he is more than welcome to build up post #2 to whatever he wishes.

So I hope to see great things from him.

Hopefully this thread will last the normal 1.5 - 2 years. Its kinda fun to see the time capsule over the years. Who knows what we will be posting about in 2009 when this thread will likely need to be recycled once again.

buri
01-23-07, 04:06 PM
Hello,

I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.

I have the "TERK HD-TVS Slim Profile Outdoor HDtv Antenna" (medium directional) attached to a Sony Bravia TV. I've tried the roof of my two-story house as well as the attic, using the orientations specified by AntennaWeb, as well as pretty much every angle in the general direction of D.C.

Has anyone in my area had luck with OTA? What should my next step be, a pre-amp?

Thanks for helping out a newbie!
BU

CycloneGT
01-23-07, 04:12 PM
I am going to add the VHF conversion info soon. Mushusker was asking me about that just last month. I'm also going to pull Adelphia out of the grid soon and that should make it easier to read. I've already done this in the nationwide grid over in the HD Programming forum. (Of course I'm going to add AT&T over there so I don't gain much space there).

Buri, There are several Sterling posters here, so I'm sure you will get an answer soon. I do know that Terk antennas have terrible reputations. You may want to try an antenna from Radio Shack. A good outdoor UHF only antenna is only about $25 from there. And if you can return it if it does't help. Just make sure to keep the packaging in good shape. (you'll also need a 75oh transceiver (a ~$5 part) to connect that antenna to a coax-cable.

Mike20878
01-23-07, 04:21 PM
A friend of mine recently got FiOS and did a cost comparison. I'd attach the original Excel spreadsheet but it's not a valid file type I can upload.

ashutoshsm
01-23-07, 04:35 PM
Rock on ... thanks for settling this nicely, Cyclone, Mike, David :)

markbulla
01-23-07, 04:38 PM
In case you all of you having problem with WBAL last night missed it in the short lived thread, markbulla posted that WBAL's PSIP problems appear to be fixed but 11-2 at the time doesn't have audio.

I currently don't have audio on 11-1 either... I tried deleting the channel and re-adding it, and I had audio for a couple of seconds, but it went away... Strange.

Mark

<added> I just checked on another receiver, and the audio was there. It's got to be some sort of PSIP problem that effects some receivers and not others...

subwoofer
01-23-07, 04:39 PM
1/19/2007: bbt: Comcast posted in the Frederick Post that on Feb 12, 2007 that HDNet and HDNet movies would be replaced with TNT-HD, CSN-HD, and NGC-HD.

Will this be for Comcast subscribers in Harford county?

I really wish that I had OTA DishTV since they have so many HD channels and I also wish that I had Verizon FIOS for their 15Mbps internet connection. Hopefully Comcast will step it up over the next few months or they will start losing subscribers.

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 04:42 PM
I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel. ... What should my next step be, a pre-amp?
No, not that. Either you have multipath or signal overload. Tell me, is there "ghosting" on the analog channels (duplicate images to the right of the primary picture)? If so, there's your problem.

Not a lot of DTV tuners in TVs can handle multipath too well. Go and try the RadioShack VU-75 XR antenna for $40 (though it's pretty much designed for attic use only), and yes, do retain the packaging. I suggest trying the Samsung DTB-H260F HD tuner if a new antenna doesn't work. Though they're hard to find, you might have luck finding one at a Circuit City store.

A good outdoor UHF only antenna is only about $25 from there. ... (you'll also need a 75oh transceiver (a ~$5 part) to connect that antenna to a coax-cable.
Man, you go around talking about VHF conversions then tell buri to get a UHF-only antenna? Are you an alien out to take scrap antenna metal, so you can build a flying saucer? ;)

CycloneGT, I don't want you to relinquish your entire post, just the OTA info once my list is relatively done. :cool: I'm working on the Baltimore list and will further enhance the DC list a bit. The Baltimore list should be up by the State of the Union address tonight. No, it won't be total vaporware like 7-3/SportsNow. (I know, I know, it's supposed to be available tomorrow, but didn't Mr. Forsyth say it was going to come on some Monday months ago? :) )

afiggatt
01-23-07, 05:07 PM
I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.

I have the "TERK HD-TVS Slim Profile Outdoor HDtv Antenna" (medium directional) attached to a Sony Bravia TV. I've tried the roof of my two-story house as well as the attic, using the orientations specified by AntennaWeb, as well as pretty much every angle in the general direction of D.C.
You should be getting at least some of the DC stations with that antenna. I assume you have done a digital channel scan with flat face of the antenna aimed at DC?

However, if you can return the Terk HDTVs antenna, I would. There are zero specs on the Terk website on this antenna, but that is Terk for you. There are much better antennas available at lower costs. For example, I can get the DC stations with a $25 indoor Silver Sensor UHF antenna, if I set it up with a clear view towards DC.

I live in the northeast part of the Cascades in north Sterling, only several miles from you. I have a Channel Master (CM) 4221 4 Bay bowtie in the attic crawlspace of my townhouse and I get 17 digital TV stations - the DC stations, six Baltimore stations, the MPT stations in Frederick and Hagerstown(!), and several others. I also have a CM 7777 pre-amp, but I don't need the pre-amp to get the DC stations. I have the pre-amp to make up for local obstructions including the top of 3 townhouses down the row between my antenna and the direction of Baltimore.

I'm happy with the performance of the CM 4221. The CM 4221 is around $25 online plus ~$15 shipping from on-line dealers solidsignal.com and warrenelectronics.com. BTW, Lowes is useful for antenna mounting parts and RG-6 cables.

If you want to buy locally and are only interested in getting the DC stations, try Radio Shack or Lowes. The only antennas at Best Buy and Circuit City that I would recommend are the Philips and Terk copies of the Silver Sensor. Check http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html for info on antennas.

tonyd79
01-23-07, 05:19 PM
I currently don't have audio on 11-1 either... I tried deleting the channel and re-adding it, and I had audio for a couple of seconds, but it went away... Strange.

Mark

<added> I just checked on another receiver, and the audio was there. It's got to be some sort of PSIP problem that effects some receivers and not others...


Mark, do you have any contact info for WBAL if and when this happens again. Very hard to get hold of...I tried last night.

paulstefano
01-23-07, 05:24 PM
Mark, do you have any contact info for WBAL if and when this happens again. Very hard to get hold of...I tried last night.
I sitll have no audio on WBAL 11.1 or 11.2 on my HR10-250 receiver.

Is there something I should do to restore it?

buri
01-23-07, 05:54 PM
mikemikeb: I don't get any noticeable ghosting -- actually the analog channels are almost comparable to what I get with my normal Comcast cable service.

afiggatt: I did a digital scan at 5 degree increments all the way around the 180 degree field pointing at DC on successive days and got nothing.

Thanks, Cyclone, mike, and afiggatt for your purchase suggestions. I'll give them a shot!

Regards,
BU

mdyoung
01-23-07, 06:16 PM
I was going to post this as response to Washington Post story about the guy's $1,399 HDTV, but the thread was closed before I could get to it. I thought this was funny as well.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.cowherd18jan18,0,3263350.column?coll=bal-home-columnists

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 07:18 PM
mikemikeb: I don't get any noticeable ghosting -- actually the analog channels are almost comparable to what I get with my normal Comcast cable service.
I'd say that you're having overload issues. With that in mind, try an attenuator at RadioShack. That might be all that's needed, not a new antenna. Speaking of the antenna, mount your current one indoors to maximise the attenuator's effect.

afiggatt, any UHF-only antenna, like the Silver Sensor, might have difficulty receiving channels 7 and 9. The 4221 isn't too good with gain for channels 7 and 9, according to the HDTVPrimer site you linked to.

Anyway, the Baltimore list is preliminarily up, although I'm not done with it. For example I have some questions:

1. Is 2-3 a weather radar only like 9-2, or is it a multipurpose channel like 7-2 / Doug Hill's WeatherNow?
2. Is the order of the MPT channels correct? If not, what is the correct order?
3. Are people watching WMPB or WFPT getting their HD programming in DD5.1? I know that WMPT viewers can.

fmsjr
01-23-07, 07:57 PM
I really doubt that overload is an issue in Sterling, especially with a Terk. Weak signal is more likely the issue.

biker19
01-23-07, 09:21 PM
Look to the skies on Wednesday.

I assume the test pattern on 7.3 means that something might actually happen tomorrow. :confused:

CycloneGT
01-23-07, 09:27 PM
I still hold out hope for NewsChannel8. But there is no way that will happen.

cjghome
01-23-07, 09:31 PM
Hello,

I'm trying to receive OTA signals in the Church Mills subdivision of Sterling, VA (near Church Rd & Sterling Blvd) but am not having any luck. I'm up on a hill and can receive analog just fine, but don't pick up a single digital channel.



Buri, I live across the Blvd from you, I'm on the street in front PVHS...

I have 2 UHF Antennas, 1 is a Channel Master #4228 & the 2nd one is the cheap UHF antenna that came in the box with my ATI HDTV Wonder Tuner Card,

I have the #4228 (not ampified) mounted outside on the chimney & connected to my STB & my computer and I'm getting all Digital signals from DC & Balt'more..

I have the cheap antenna (inside on dresser) connected to my Vizio HDTV in the Bedroom and I'm getting all the DC stations crystal clear....

I have both pointing to 115 degrees ..

I once had a problem with the brand new coxial cable that E* used when setting up my dish service, found out there was a unseened break on the copper line in the cable and give me bad reception. You might want to make sure your coxial cable to up to par...

If your need help setting up just drop me a note, I have all the necessary devices to find out the best signal for you...


Charlie

afiggatt
01-23-07, 09:36 PM
I'd say that you're having overload issues. With that in mind, try an attenuator at RadioShack. That might be all that's needed, not a new antenna. Speaking of the antenna, mount your current one indoors to maximise the attenuator's effect.

afiggatt, any UHF-only antenna, like the Silver Sensor, might have difficulty receiving channels 7 and 9. The 4221 isn't too good with gain for channels 7 and 9, according to the HDTVPrimer site you linked to.
I agree with fmsjr. Overload at the 16+ miles distance to Sterling is unlikely. The Terk antenna should be receiving at least some of the DC stations. Heck, I got most of the big four DC stations with a UHF loop antenna when I was starting out with OTA.

buri, I would check everything starting with a read of the manual. Verify that the antenna is connected to the correct digital RF port, the cable connections are good, that the antenna is aimed at DC at around 110 to 115 degrees (from magnetic north), and that do a full digital scan with the ATSC over the air tuner. Another possibility is that the digital tuner in the Sony is defective. I think you will want to get a better antenna, but that Terk should be at least detecting the big four in DC.

mikemikeb, the CM 4221 is a UHF antenna, but it has decent performance for the upper end of upper VHF. I get WWPX-DT 60 which broadcasts on VHF 12 out of Martinsburg at 46 miles to the rear. I also get good picture quality for the analog signals WJLA 7 and WUSA 9 out of DC. The analog reception for WBAL 11 and WJZ 13 is rather noisy, so I expect I may need to add a upper VHF antenna to get those 2 stations in 2009. But the CM 4221 should be ok for the DC stations in 2009.

tonyd79
01-23-07, 10:17 PM
WBAL is still a mess.

My TV (Sony) has no sound on 11.1 and 11.2 but 59.1 and 59.2 are still coming in clear.

My HR10 (DirecTivo HD) has no sound on 11.1, 11.2, 59.1 and 59.2.

My HR20 (DirecTV DVR) has sound on 11.1 and 11.2. (Can't tune 59.1 or 59.2 because it is not in the guide.)

What a mess.

Does ANYONE know how to contact WBAL Engineering? Somehow I doubt they know things are broken (and may think it is all fixed).

mikemikeb
01-23-07, 10:51 PM
OK, last I checked during the State of the Union speech, 7-3 was a test pattern, as biker19 reported. Looks like Mr. Forsyth's fulfilling his Wednesday promise.

I really doubt that overload is an issue in Sterling, especially with a Terk. Weak signal is more likely the issue.
So his analogs are clean and yet he can't pick up any digitals? Wow, digital signals must not be too robust! And the fact that his analog signals are comparable to those from the cable company? Wow, those cable signals must be really snowy. :rolleyes:

Now that I think about it, buri, two things: What year was your Sony HDTV made, and what's its model number? The reason you're not getting HD signals might be amazingly simple: your TV might not have a digital OTA tuner!

If you're sure that your Sony has a DTV tuner, do channels 26, 32, and 50 have multipath, or are those signals clean? See, if your PQ for the big 4 nets are good, and the UHF signals have multipath, then there's the issue, as all DC locals currently digitally broadcast over UHF, not VHF like the Big 4 analogs. Perhaps it's an overload issue, and a refundable way to find out is to get a three or six dB attenuator at RadioShack. Maybe the attenuator will control any multipath and deliver a lock, or maybe not. Who knows? In any case, I still contend that if it's not a matter of having a tuner in the Sony, it's a matter of overload at your place.

According to the HDTVPrimer website, afiggatt, the CM 4221 has better gain over channels 11 and 13 than 7 and 9, so it's probably a matter of weak signal over distance that provides the analog signal situation with WJZ and WBAL. That said, maybe the CM 4221 would do for buri IF channels 7 and 9 could be digitally received in 2009. I hope they are, and it seems like it.

mjones73
01-23-07, 11:06 PM
I will try mailing the person who responded to me from WBAL today when I get to work in the morning, I don't have the address at home. I contacted them via the form on their website this morning and got a response fairly quick and also a follow up when they had the PSIP generator back online.

tonyd79
01-23-07, 11:30 PM
I will try mailing the person who responded to me from WBAL today when I get to work in the morning, I don't have the address at home. I contacted them via the form on their website this morning and got a response fairly quick and also a follow up when they had the PSIP generator back online.

I did the same and got no response.

ArcCoyote
01-24-07, 05:35 AM
I wonder if WBAL's PSIP problems have anything to do with why my Media Center box thought it recorded Heroes but somehow spit out an empty file.

Didn't get any warning about signal loss or system problems, and I could still watch 11-1 OTA live. Strange.

GoIrish
01-24-07, 06:57 AM
Will this be for Comcast subscribers in Harford county?

I really wish that I had OTA DishTV since they have so many HD channels and I also wish that I had Verizon FIOS for their 15Mbps internet connection. Hopefully Comcast will step it up over the next few months or they will start losing subscribers.

Comcast Harford Co. customers already have those channels.

GoIrish

jimrobinette
01-24-07, 08:30 AM
Mike,

You DO come across like that! An example is your "help" to Robert Forsyth by telling a station engineer how to encode his DT streams last Nov and not letting go of it. And then calling his 7-3 "vaporware" is just down right rude. The fact that he posts anything here at all is his way of feeding the DT junkies like us and your pushing him on engineering and calling him out as vaporware are not going to endear him to post anything more and give us heads up of what is going on.

And then the "gravity" threads were a little out there.

Anyway, why is it necessary to try and hijack the thread. Go start another if this one doesn't work for you.

Jim

I do thank CycloneGT for his original post. I doubt my list could be done without his.


Sorry if I came across like that. I don't intend to be one; I just want to help people.

captain_video
01-24-07, 08:37 AM
I'm also not getting audio on 11.1 or 11.2. I didn't discover the channel was missing until I tuned into the last part of Studio 60 and found I had a blank screen on all three of my HDTivos. I ended up missing Heroes and Studio 60 as a result. I found the predecessor thread to this one yesterday and discovered the PSIP issue. I then rescanned all of my local channels on all three HDTivos and can now receive 11.1 and 11.2, but still no audio as of last night. Fortunately, I also have a Channel Master 4228 aimed at DC so I changed over all of my HDTivo season passes for 11.1 to WRC-4 (4.1) until they get the problem ironed out. Apparently WBAL is still having issues that have not been resolved yet.

tonyd79
01-24-07, 08:55 AM
Fortunately, I also have a Channel Master 4228 aimed at DC so I changed over all of my HDTivo season passes for 11.1 to WRC-4 (4.1) until they get the problem ironed out. Apparently WBAL is still having issues that have not been resolved yet.

I am not currently setup to get WRC but I may have to consider it if WBAL can't get their act together (and if they don't stop doing that dumb stretch thing on SD broadcasts).

MrMike6by9
01-24-07, 09:02 AM
I was going to post this as response to Washington Post story about the guy's $1,399 HDTV, but the thread was closed before I could get to it. I thought this was funny as well.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.cowherd18jan18,0,3263350.column?coll=bal-home-columnists

That's just plain mean .... hehehehe

markbulla
01-24-07, 09:45 AM
<edit>

1. Is 2-3 a weather radar only like 9-2, or is it a multipurpose channel like 7-2 / Doug Hill's WeatherNow?



I haven't looked at 7-2 in a while, but channel 2-3 is called "WeatherNet Digital", and has the seven day forecast at the bottom, current temps at different locations on the left, and a window at the right that has different things - local radar, "live" forecasts, national radar, local and national temperature maps, etc., so it's probably more like 7-2 than 9-2.

Mark

yangc
01-24-07, 11:24 AM
I recently picked up Radio Shack's $50 Model 15-1892 indoor antenna and, to my surprise, it really works great! I live in the Olney, MD area in a townhouse and my home theater room is on the first floor. With the antenna hooked up to my Sony KDF-60XS955 I pick up the following HD stations without a problem:

2.1 WMAR
4.1 WRC
5.1 WTTG
7.1 WJLA
9.1 WUSA
13.1 WJZ
20.1 WDCA
45.1 FOX45
50.1 WDCW
54.1 WNUV

I used to have Comcast's dual-tuner HD STB, the Motorola DCT6412. Being much more of a DVD/HD DVD watcher than a TV watcher (and, like many, not being a huge fan of Comcast's high prices and poor customer service), I had been contemplating dropping Comcast for some time -- So when my Motorola box started acting up again (I was already on my third one), I decided to take the plunge and cancel my Comcast service. I had been and still am considering getting Verizon FIOS TV when it becomes availabvle in my area, but I thought I'd give an indoor antenna a shot in the meantime. I honestly did not expect it to work as well as it does. :)

badgerdms
01-24-07, 11:38 AM
I've noticed som audio dropouts on Fox HD (5.1) on 24 the last couple of weeks. I've upgraded to the D* H20-700 DVR so that may have something to do with it, but I was curious if anybody else was having any issues. I've never had issues with FOX before.

ashutoshsm
01-24-07, 12:28 PM
I've noticed som audio dropouts on Fox HD (5.1) on 24 the last couple of weeks. I've upgraded to the D* H20-700 DVR so that may have something to do with it, but I was curious if anybody else was having any issues. I've never had issues with FOX before.

I assume you ARE talking about OTA 5.1, not the DirecTV rebroadcast HD version? I don't know the specs on that (so-called, but that's my opinion ;) ) "DVR". Does it have an OTA tuner? Do the discussions relating to that piece of hardware make any comparisons of the quality of the OTA tuner?

FWIW, I'm picking up flawless 5.1 OTA with a little Terk Silver Sensor clone on my S3 TiVo's OTA tuner.

mikemikeb
01-24-07, 12:29 PM
badgerdms,

Yeah, I had similar A/V issues during American Idol last night with a non-D* OTA receiver, but I thought it was multipath-related. 24 came in cleanly for me.

The funny thing is that in Houston, another Fox-owned station has had similar issues, where one receiver seems to have audio dropouts, while others have no issues. Odd.

jimrobinette,

Yeah, I remember that 30fps thinger. I brought it up twice, maybe three times, and after he knocked the idea down I didn't bring it up again. 7-3 served a decent purpose for a while, and I do appreciate his efforts, both at the station and in these threads. Yet, he did promise something different for 7-3 a long time ago, and it didn't come for all that time. The "vaporware" thing was more of a playful thing than you would think, as I sort of believed him that it would come today, and it would be good if it did. I wonder how the product, whatever it might be, will be received here. Do people like sports, and would they watch that kind of a subchannel? Or is it going to be of something else? Hmmmm....

markbulla
01-24-07, 01:16 PM
I'm also not getting audio on 11.1 or 11.2. I didn't discover the channel was missing until I tuned into the last part of Studio 60 and found I had a blank screen on all three of my HDTivos. I ended up missing Heroes and Studio 60 as a result. I found the predecessor thread to this one yesterday and discovered the PSIP issue. I then rescanned all of my local channels on all three HDTivos and can now receive 11.1 and 11.2, but still no audio as of last night. Fortunately, I also have a Channel Master 4228 aimed at DC so I changed over all of my HDTivo season passes for 11.1 to WRC-4 (4.1) until they get the problem ironed out. Apparently WBAL is still having issues that have not been resolved yet.

WBAL is still working on their PSIP issue. Right now, I don't have 11-1 or 11-2 at all, but it's coming in fine on 59-1 and 59-2 with audio.

Apparently, their PSIP generator is more of a pain than mine is to set up (and mine's not easy...)...

Mark

bornyank1
01-24-07, 01:52 PM
Hey all, I'm a student at Georgetown University, on the 8th floor of a dorm (my windows face basically due East). I have a Sceptre X42 HDTV, and I'm trying to receive OTA HD channels. However, no matter what I try, I can only get reception for 6 channels:

26-1 W26HD
26-2 WETA2
26-3 WETA3
26-4 WETA4
50-1 WDCW-DT
50-2 WDCW-D2

I have tried with a GE Optima Antenna, and more recently, with a Phillips Silver Sensor. I can't get more than these same 6 channels no matter what I try. I've tried moving the antenna around to face different directions, messing with the rabbit ears on the Optima, etc. I don't get it...I'm basically in the heart of a big city, shouldn't I be able to get more channels than this? I saw a lot more on AntennaWeb. I'd at least like to get the networks, so I could watch some primetime shows and sports in HD. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

captain_video
01-24-07, 02:07 PM
WBAL is still working on their PSIP issue. Right now, I don't have 11-1 or 11-2 at all, but it's coming in fine on 59-1 and 59-2 with audio.
How do you tune to 59-1 or 59-2? I have HDTivos and they scan for OTA channels and set them up based on the VHF appended channels (i.e. ch 11, 13, etc.) and not the actual UHF channels.

markbulla
01-24-07, 02:28 PM
How do you tune to 59-1 or 59-2? I have HDTivos and they scan for OTA channels and set them up based on the VHF appended channels (i.e. ch 11, 13, etc.) and not the actual UHF channels.

On the Samsung receiver I have in my office I just type in "59" on the remote, and viola! there it is. If the PSIP is correct, the receiver will know that it's on "channel 11" from then on.

This process works on my Dish receiver at home, as well.

Mark

mikemikeb
01-24-07, 02:41 PM
Hey all, I'm a student at Georgetown University, on the 8th floor of a dorm (my windows face basically due East). ... I'm trying to receive OTA HD channels. However, no matter what I try, I can only get reception for 6 channels
Sorry, but the other stations broadcast from an area toward Friendship Heights, to the NNW, and therefore your building blocks 'em. 50 broadcasts from NE DC, so you wouldn't have issues with that one. I don't know why you get 26 (must be on the southern area of the eastern side), but when it transfers to the new tower site with all the other stations you don't get, you won't get 26, either. So enjoy it while you can.

Good luck with your studies.

How do you tune to 59-1 or 59-2? I have HDTivos and they scan for OTA channels and set them up based on the VHF appended channels (i.e. ch 11, 13, etc.) and not the actual UHF channels.
It depends on the tuner. Some work differently than others and therefore you might be lucky, or not. Might as well try markbulla's trick.

tonyd79
01-24-07, 02:56 PM
How do you tune to 59-1 or 59-2? I have HDTivos and they scan for OTA channels and set them up based on the VHF appended channels (i.e. ch 11, 13, etc.) and not the actual UHF channels.

Even though you don't get the channel in the guide, the HD Tivo should accept you entering 59-1 and tune to the channel. If you want to record on it, you need to set a manual recording. That is the way it works on my HR10. It should work the same way on a Series 3 (you didn't say which you had).

SJKurtzke
01-24-07, 03:33 PM
So, it's Wednesday....what's on 7.3?

(Less importantly) What channel number is it for FiOS?

I'm guessing it's some kind of ABC News Now/NewsChannel 8 hybrid.

mjones73
01-24-07, 03:50 PM
WBAL is still working on their PSIP issue. Right now, I don't have 11-1 or 11-2 at all, but it's coming in fine on 59-1 and 59-2 with audio.

Apparently, their PSIP generator is more of a pain than mine is to set up (and mine's not easy...)...

Mark

I received an e-mail at 1:04 PM that the audio problem was fixed but I'm not home to confirm it, is it still a problem?

bornyank1
01-24-07, 04:18 PM
Sorry, but the other stations broadcast from an area toward Friendship Heights, to the NNW, and therefore your building blocks 'em. 50 broadcasts from NE DC, so you wouldn't have issues with that one. I don't know why you get 26 (must be on the southern area of the eastern side), but when it transfers to the new tower site with all the other stations you don't get, you won't get 26, either. So enjoy it while you can.

Good luck with your studies.


It depends on the tuner. Some work differently than others and therefore you might be lucky, or not. Might as well try markbulla's trick.

Is there some kind of omnidirectional antenna I could get that might pick it up? Or one powerful enough to get the signal...I'm not that far from the other side of the building.

biker19
01-24-07, 04:24 PM
So, it's Wednesday....what's on 7.3?

(Less importantly) What channel number is it for FiOS?

I doubt FIOS will have it for some time.

markbulla
01-24-07, 04:35 PM
I received an e-mail at 1:04 PM that the audio problem was fixed but I'm not home to confirm it, is it still a problem?

Yep - I have video and audio on 11-1, and 11-2. I'm still showing errors on their PSIP, so they may (should) still be working on it, but currently it's working on my Samsung receiver.

Mark

afiggatt
01-24-07, 04:39 PM
Hey all, I'm a student at Georgetown University, on the 8th floor of a dorm (my windows face basically due East). I have a Sceptre X42 HDTV, and I'm trying to receive OTA HD channels. However, no matter what I try, I can only get reception for 6 channels:

26-1 W26HD
26-2 WETA2
26-3 WETA3
26-4 WETA4
50-1 WDCW-DT
50-2 WDCW-D2

I have tried with a GE Optima Antenna, and more recently, with a Phillips Silver Sensor. I can't get more than these same 6 channels no matter what I try. I've tried moving the antenna around to face different directions, messing with the rabbit ears on the Optima, etc. I don't get it...I'm basically in the heart of a big city, shouldn't I be able to get more channels than this?
Yes, you should be getting more stations than this - in theory. I don't know how good the ATSC tuner is in the Sceptre X42 TV. It may be poor at handling multipath or fluctuating signals. Also, you are getting only 2 stations, not 6. The sub-channels only count as 1 station. The sub-channels are all part of the data streams from WETA-DT 26 and WDCW-DT 50.

You have a good UHF antenna with the Silver Sensor. Some ATSC tuners allow you to directly enter the digital channel number and will map to the station if it can lock onto whatever it finds. Do you get anything on the signal strength meter for channels 34, 35, 36, 39, 48? (check the 1st post in this thread to see which stations these are under the orange colored column).

The Silver Sensor is moderately directional so find the best clear spot with the least obstruction and aim it towards NW DC. If you have a tall building behind you, you could aim the antenna at that to try to pick up reflected signals. The rabbit ears won't help as those are for longer wavelength VHF channels and all the local stations currently digitally broadcast on UHF channels.

Just how far are you from the broadcast towers in NW DC? Enter your actual street address into antennaweb.org and report back here on the miles and direction. One possibility is that the signal is too strong and you are overloading the Sceptre ATSC receiver. If all else fails, you can get an antenuater at Radio Shack and give that a try.

badgerdms
01-24-07, 05:02 PM
I assume you ARE talking about OTA 5.1, not the DirecTV rebroadcast HD version? I don't know the specs on that (so-called, but that's my opinion ;) ) "DVR". Does it have an OTA tuner? Do the discussions relating to that piece of hardware make any comparisons of the quality of the OTA tuner?

FWIW, I'm picking up flawless 5.1 OTA with a little Terk Silver Sensor clone on my S3 TiVo's OTA tuner.

Yeah, it's the OTA tuner on the DVR. I double checked on my "direct line" from the antenna to the TV's tuner ( I built some redundancy into my system) and that also seemed to have a little multipath issue. The DTV rebroadcast is fine.

ashutoshsm
01-24-07, 05:04 PM
I can confirm that the Sceptre TV has a Rockin' Awesome (and this is official terminology) ATSC tuner. It picks up every channel my S3 TiVo does, OTA, and the S3 TiVo has, going by word-of-mouth comparisons, one of the best OTA tuners available!

I do agree on the Silver Sensor being moderately directional - from here in loudoin County, with my Silver Sensor istting on the TV stand in the basement, I had to turn it 10-15 degrees whenever I wanted to enhance reception between sets of channels. Now, sitting in a window sill one level above the basement, it works perfectly, though!

I bet the issue here is that the (good) Sceptre tuner is being overloaded - try a couple of splitters/attenuators in the path.

robertforsyth
01-24-07, 05:31 PM
So, it's Wednesday....what's on 7.3?

(Less importantly) What channel number is it for FiOS?

I'm guessing it's some kind of ABC News Now/NewsChannel 8 hybrid.

We had a major networking/viri issue today that is keeping me busy. It will launch tomorrow.

bornyank1
01-24-07, 06:32 PM
Yes, you should be getting more stations than this - in theory. I don't know how good the ATSC tuner is in the Sceptre X42 TV. It may be poor at handling multipath or fluctuating signals. Also, you are getting only 2 stations, not 6. The sub-channels only count as 1 station. The sub-channels are all part of the data streams from WETA-DT 26 and WDCW-DT 50.

You have a good UHF antenna with the Silver Sensor. Some ATSC tuners allow you to directly enter the digital channel number and will map to the station if it can lock onto whatever it finds. Do you get anything on the signal strength meter for channels 34, 35, 36, 39, 48? (check the 1st post in this thread to see which stations these are under the orange colored column).

The Silver Sensor is moderately directional so find the best clear spot with the least obstruction and aim it towards NW DC. If you have a tall building behind you, you could aim the antenna at that to try to pick up reflected signals. The rabbit ears won't help as those are for longer wavelength VHF channels and all the local stations currently digitally broadcast on UHF channels.

Just how far are you from the broadcast towers in NW DC? Enter your actual street address into antennaweb.org and report back here on the miles and direction. One possibility is that the signal is too strong and you are overloading the Sceptre ATSC receiver. If all else fails, you can get an antenuater at Radio Shack and give that a try.

According to Antenna Web, I'm about 2-4 miles from them...at least 9 of them are very, very close. I get 0 signal strength for every one of those channels you suggested. If the problem is an overly strong signal, would that still result in 0 signal strength? I looked for attenuators on Radioshack's site and nothing came up...is there another name for them? If it's just a splitter, I have one or two lying around...should I just connect them and use 2-3 coax cables to get the signal into the TV? Also have a couple feed-thru connectors.

mdyoung
01-24-07, 07:30 PM
Two nights in a row I was watching Comcast channel 214 WNUVDT between 10 and 11 pm and it seemed to me that the volume was going slightly up and down by itself. I tried the SD channel 14 and it seemed to be OK. Anyone else notice this or care to check it out?

biker19
01-24-07, 09:11 PM
According to Antenna Web, I'm about 2-4 miles from them...at least 9 of them are very, very close. I get 0 signal strength for every one of those channels you suggested. If the problem is an overly strong signal, would that still result in 0 signal strength? I looked for attenuators on Radioshack's site and nothing came up...is there another name for them? If it's just a splitter, I have one or two lying around...should I just connect them and use 2-3 coax cables to get the signal into the TV? Also have a couple feed-thru connectors.
Do you get any analog chs? Do you get WHUT on 32? You are so close you should get something.

howie14
01-24-07, 09:48 PM
Yep - I have video and audio on 11-1, and 11-2. I'm still showing errors on their PSIP, so they may (should) still be working on it, but currently it's working on my Samsung receiver.

Mark

Hi folks,

I'm fairly new to this whole thing. I got my HDTV last month. Tonight, I'm not getting anything from WBAL-DT. My signal meter shows strong signal, but "weak signal or channel not available" keeps popping up.

I watched NBC on WRC instead, but I just want to make sure it's them and not me. I'm receiving all my other Washington and Baltimore stations as usual.

Thanks.

fmsjr
01-24-07, 09:57 PM
According to Antenna Web, I'm about 2-4 miles from them...at least 9 of them are very, very close. I get 0 signal strength for every one of those channels you suggested. If the problem is an overly strong signal, would that still result in 0 signal strength? I looked for attenuators on Radioshack's site and nothing came up...is there another name for them? If it's just a splitter, I have one or two lying around...should I just connect them and use 2-3 coax cables to get the signal into the TV? Also have a couple feed-thru connectors.
I think someone in Georgetown had problems with overload a while back. In this case attenuators might be the solution (although multipath reflections could be the issue too.) I use a splitter for attenuation. A 2-way splitter will drop 3 or 4 dB, a 4-way about 7.5 dB. But any unused taps should be terminated to avoid reflections on the coax. I terminated extra taps on the FM receiver, a DVD recorder and an old TV in another room. (Or you could go buy another 50" plasma as a terminator.) :)

bornyank1
01-24-07, 09:59 PM
I hooked up two splitters and 2 feed-through connectors...had coaxial cable all over the place. I picked up channel 22 briefly, that was the only improvement. Where can I get attenuators? Don't see 'em on Radioshack's site.

fmsjr
01-24-07, 10:08 PM
We had a major networking/viri issue today that is keeping me busy. It will launch tomorrow.
I was hoping the test pattern was it! :) I'd even settle for a webcam of the WJLA lobby... or the nearest Starbucks... maybe even Jiffy Lube bay #3. :D

afiggatt
01-24-07, 10:15 PM
According to Antenna Web, I'm about 2-4 miles from them...at least 9 of them are very, very close. I get 0 signal strength for every one of those channels you suggested. If the problem is an overly strong signal, would that still result in 0 signal strength? I looked for attenuators on Radioshack's site and nothing came up...is there another name for them?
I would not read too much into the zero signal strength. The TV has both an analog NTSC and digital ATSC tuner and it is probably defaulting to the analog tuner when you enter a "unscanned" channel number. I can enter the actual digital channel for a station not picked up during a scan in my Samsung SIR-T451 ATSC receiver, but the Samsung has only a digital tuner, no analog. So it uses the digital tuner when I enter a channel number. OTOH, my Sony HDD250 DVR has NTSC and ATSC tuners. It can only add digital channels using a channel scan.

You may be getting an overloaded signal, but the problem is most likely your building. If it is a steel frame and concrete building, you may be in a dead zone for picking up the station signals coming in from the NW on the eastern side. You should try some experiments with different antenna locations. Can you add a 25' RG-6 cable and move the antenna to a different spot. Or move the TV temporarily to a room on the western or northern side and try to get the DC stations from there. The purpose is to confirm that you can get the local stations with your set up, not that you have to keep it in another dorm room.

Another alternative is get a simple NON-AMPLIFIED UHF loop antenna and stick that in the window. The GE Optima is an amplified antenna and amplified antennas are a bad idea when you are only 3 or 4 miles from 1000 KW transmitters. The Silver Sensor may be too directional to pick up the reflected signals. A UHF loop has a very broad pickup beam pattern (see http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/Loop.html).

mikemikeb
01-24-07, 10:46 PM
According to Antenna Web, I'm about 2-4 miles from them...at least 9 of them are very, very close. I get 0 signal strength for every one of those channels you suggested. If the problem is an overly strong signal, would that still result in 0 signal strength?
On some tuners, yes. Those things in general are wonky and not based on any specific science.

By the way, after looking at a map of the area, I didn't know that the campus was so close to the towers. Yeah, you probably have overload, especially if you can get in analog channels 26 and 32 with the Silver Sensor in just fine. But you could have a weak signla no matter what. To find out, see if you can pick up analog channels 26 and 32 in fine. If you can't, then you probably have a weak signal issue with the digital stations. But, if those come in fine, then you have an overload and perhaps multipath-based issue, though it would be good to work on the overload-based one first.

Regardless, at that sort of distance, with a Silver Sensor, an attenuator probably won't pad the signal enough to bring in any overloaded Big 4 stations. Also, in 2009, the local CBS and ABC affiliates will be moving to the VHF band, and the Silver Sensor isn't designed for that band. I suggest going to a RadioShack and picking up a 15-1838 antenna for $15, and when you get home, don't plug in the amplifier! From personal experience, you don't need it at that distance, as even without the amp plugged in, it's a fine antenna for short-range reception of both VHF and UHF channels.

Good luck.
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Thanks for the update, Mr. Forsyth. I'm glad gravity didn't cause any air to bend into the equipment and break it. ;)

mikemikeb
01-24-07, 11:34 PM
Thanks, markbulla, for the info about 2-3. I'll slightly reflect that in a general (and I think final for now) update to my OTA station list tomorrow, where I'll also update 7-3's final identity.

The other questions I had weren't clearly-worded, so I'll clarify them and allow anybody to answer:

1. Is the order of the MPT subchannels correct (for example, is MPT Select on channel xx-3)? If not, what is the correct order?
2. Are people watching WMPB/Baltimore or WFPT/Frederick getting some of their HD programming in DD5.1, or is it all stereo like WETA? I know that WMPT/Annapolis viewers can get DD5.1 if the program supports it (Great Performances?).

By the way, just for the record, because I'll remove the "guess" area of the list after it goes online: I'm locking in my guess of a sports theme for 7-3. :)

AntAltMike
01-24-07, 11:54 PM
Bornyank1 should try a paper clip for an antenna and see how that does. Seriously.

To clarify bornyank1's situation, he isn't getting 6 channels, he is getting two. The 26.X channels are being broadcast on channel 27 from his south, and his 50.x channels are being broadcast on channel 51 from the tower that looks like the Eiffel tower on the corner of Georgia Ave and Peabody, to his east.

Channels 20, 26 and 32 analog come from the River Road tower, which is surely to his Northwest. The network digital transmitters are to his north, so his 20/26/32 analog performance tells us virtually nothing regarding his prospects of getting the digital commercial transmissions from his north.

An analog tuner will generally handle input signals up to about 35dBmV or even 40dBmV, but I don't have reliable information on what the maximum input is for digital tuners. It will actually vary a good deal depending on the tuner design. Bornyank should be able to get something on 34, 35, 36, 39 and 48 by moving his antenna around, regardless of what he has for reflections and signal levels. (If you want to introduce 20 to 25dB of attenuation cheap. then connect the antenna to one output of a two way splitter, and the TV to the other input. it won't be as flat across the channel as an attenuator pad will, but flatness is not as critical with ATSC channels as it is with NTSC.

bornyank1
01-25-07, 12:08 AM
I really appreciate all the thought you guys are putting into this problem, let me try to sum up what you seem to all be saying.

Right now I have the antenna hooked up to my TV with 3 coax cables...1 from the antenna into a splitter, one from the splitter to a feed-through connector, and one from the connector to the TV. Is that as much drain as an attenuator would be? I can go to Radioshack if they have them there (again, I don't see it on the website) and pick one up if it would be more effective than this 3-coax-cable setup I have right now. Maybe I need even more signal drain if the problem is overloading.

Someone suggested I get a simple loop antenna. Do you mean something like this?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2453700&cp=&sr=1&origkw=loop+antenna&kw=loop+antenna&parentPage=search

I could pick one of those up if I go to Radioshack to get the attenuator. The TV is pretty large, and it's hooked up to a million things, so I don't know if I can carry it to someone else's room on the other side of the building to see if it works. I'll see what I can pick up of the analog stations. Thanks.

CycloneGT
01-25-07, 12:20 AM
Yeah, thats a cheap loop antenna. May be exactly what you need.

bornyank1
01-25-07, 12:31 AM
OK, if you don't think I should get that antenna, speak now, or forever hold your peace. ;)

Also, can anyone find an attenuator on the site? There isn't a Radioshack right near me, and I don't have a car...might just order it online, and it would be nice to get everything together. Thanks.

bornyank1
01-25-07, 12:39 AM
On second thought, I might get this stuff from Amazon, since they have plenty of attenuators. How about these antennae:

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-ANT120-Indoor-TV-Antenna/dp/B00000J0E2/sr=1-16/qid=1169703212/ref=sr_1_16/103-2826271-6082209?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

http://www.amazon.com/RCA-ANT115-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B00005T3BE/sr=1-17/qid=1169703212/ref=sr_1_17/103-2826271-6082209?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

http://www.amazon.com/Magnavox-MANT-200-Tuning-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B00006JPRK/sr=1-18/qid=1169703212/ref=sr_1_18/103-2826271-6082209?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Which of those would you go for? Also, they have a large selection of attenuators...what dB should I use?

mikemikeb
01-25-07, 03:51 AM
Channels 20, 26 and 32 analog come from the River Road tower, which is surely to his Northwest. The network digital transmitters are to his north, so his 20/26/32 analog performance tells us virtually nothing regarding his prospects of getting the digital commercial transmissions from his north.
Good point. Of course, if he can still get 32 and 26-analog, then it still means that he has an overload issue. It's if he can't get them, then the matter's irrelevant. :)

That said, I just remembered that there's an analog station more proper to test with: WFDC channel 14 broadcasting from WRC-DC's tower, which is the westernmost tower that the Big 4 digitals broadcast from.

Right now I have the antenna hooked up to my TV with 3 coax cables...1 from the antenna into a splitter, one from the splitter to a feed-through connector, and one from the connector to the TV. Is that as much drain as an attenuator would be?
You might want to double-check that all those components are working properly, as one of those components may be internally broken. Try a direct cable connection from the Silver Sensor to the TV and see if that corrects anything. Do the testing of analog 14 while you're at it.

Someone suggested I get a simple loop antenna. Do you mean something like this?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2453700&cp=&sr=1&origkw=loop+antenna&kw=loop+antenna&parentPage=search
Something like that, but not that exact antenna. One of the antenna's specs concerns me:

36" 300-ohm flat lead wire
What's the big deal with that? 300-ohm wire is highly unshielded cable, and is very susceptible to multipath. In analog, this causes ghosting. In digital, this can cause a lack of any picture.

At my house, there's a 50-year-old (or older?) 300-ohm setup to two TVs. With the basement TV, I can significantly affect how much an analog UHF channel is ghosting by simply moving the cable by as little as four inches. This is in a basement at over double the distance between your dorm and the towers. The point is, you're going to want the best of the best: quad-shielded RG-6 cable. RadioShack sells that stuff under the "Gold Series" moniker. It's a tad expensive, but well worth it.

The 15-1838 I mentioned earlier has a connector that accepts RG-6 and RG-59 cable (they share the same connector). If I remember correctly, the antenna comes with a short bit of RG-59 cable, and if it's RG-59, it's not as good as RG-6.

Another good thing about the 15-1838: Unlike many other cheap antennas, there's no cable that's permanently fixed to the antenna; you can always upgrade to more robust cable. The cable usually on these things aren't too shielded or that long.

By the way, for maximum reception with any antenna, have it by a window, and have enough cable length to get to the TV with the antenna there. :)

TVJunkyMonkey
01-25-07, 05:35 AM
I don't know if this has been posted yet, I have FIOS TV and they just sent me a letter to let me know about some channel realignment effective 2/20/2007.

They will add CSN HD and it looks like more. ESPN, ESPN2, NFL HD were 811,812, and 814 respectively. Next month they will be moved up to the upper 820s along with newly to be added CSN HD(really happy now I will get to see the Wizards and Caps in HD). It will be great if somehow MASN starts going HD before the season starts, because now they have both Nats and Orioles.

Not sure, but it looks like FIOS guys are making some room for more channels to be added(I heard about them adding some VOOM channels but no confirmations), or it could be that they are just being pain in the behind.

ArcCoyote
01-25-07, 05:41 AM
Hi folks,

I'm fairly new to this whole thing. I got my HDTV last month. Tonight, I'm not getting anything from WBAL-DT. My signal meter shows strong signal, but "weak signal or channel not available" keeps popping up.

Thanks.

WBAL-DT is having PSIP issues, and it's causing my Windows Vista box to do the same thing. Media Center maps 59-1 in the EPG to channel 1111, but it still wants a PSIP of 11-1 or it gives "No TV Signal" In true Microsoft fashion, there's no way to override this. WatchHDTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590020) will manually tune 59-1 and get video, but I can't do much with it.

Try tuning your set to 59-1, or rescan and see if it adds 59-1. That should be WBAL-DT

davidwb
01-25-07, 05:51 AM
I don't know if this has been posted yet, I have FIOS TV and they just sent me a letter to let me know about some channel realignment effective 2/20/2007.

They will add CSN HD and it looks like more. ESPN, ESPN2, NFL HD were 811,812, and 814 respectively. Next month they will be moved up to the upper 820s along with newly to be added CSN HD(really happy now I will get to see the Wizards and Caps in HD). It will be great if somehow MASN starts going HD before the season starts, because now they have both Nats and Orioles.

Not sure, but it looks like FIOS guys are making some room for more channels to be added(I heard about them adding some VOOM channels but no confirmations), or it could be that they are just being pain in the behind.


i posted about this last week...but the real question is whether howard and ann arundel counties will lose access to the dc hd channels...they are not listed on the lineup sheet that accompanied the letter (only the baltimore hd channels are)...but i've called three different fios numbers and each tells me that there is no plan to remove the dc hd channels...of course, they have no explanation as to why those channels are no longer listed on the lineup sheet.

i guess we'll see on 2/20.

howie14
01-25-07, 07:22 AM
WBAL-DT is having PSIP issues, and it's causing my Windows Vista box to do the same thing. Media Center maps 59-1 in the EPG to channel 1111, but it still wants a PSIP of 11-1 or it gives "No TV Signal" In true Microsoft fashion, there's no way to override this. WatchHDTV will manually tune 59-1 and get video, but I can't do much with it.

Try tuning your set to 59-1, or rescan and see if it adds 59-1. That should be WBAL-DT

Thanks. I tried both suggestions. Manually entering 59-1 redirects to 11-1 and scanning didn't produce a 59-1.

I guess I'll be watching WRC for the immediate future.

captain_video
01-25-07, 08:09 AM
I've got sound on both 11-1 and 11-2 as of 6:30 AM this morning. It looks like WBAL got the PSIP problem worked out.

tonyd79
01-25-07, 08:46 AM
OK, if you don't think I should get that antenna, speak now, or forever hold your peace. ;)

Also, can anyone find an attenuator on the site? There isn't a Radioshack right near me, and I don't have a car...might just order it online, and it would be nice to get everything together. Thanks.

Don't get that antenna. It has a flat lead rather than a coaxial. Flat leads can pick up all kinds of crap that will lead to errors.

zman8
01-25-07, 09:50 AM
I've got the Samsung HDTV tuner and was considering gettting the Comcast Basic (non-digital) package here in DC.

I was wondering, aside from the local stations, what other HD stations can I get QAM (ie can I get "Comcast Sports Net HD", "ESPN HD", or any others)?

Please let me know (especially ESPN HD).

Thanks

JoeInNVa
01-25-07, 09:55 AM
I've got the Samsung HDTV tuner and was considering gettting the Comcast Basic (non-digital) package here in DC.

I was wondering, aside from the local stations, what other HD stations can I get QAM (ie can I get "Comcast Sports Net HD", "ESPN HD", or any others)?

Please let me know (especially ESPN HD).

Thanks

Whatever they don't encrypt. It's hit or miss and changes a lot. Just do a rescan every week to see if anything pops up.

zman8
01-25-07, 10:26 AM
Whatever they don't encrypt. It's hit or miss and changes a lot. Just do a rescan every week to see if anything pops up.

I am aware of this, but I was hoping that perhaps another forum member who uses the DC Comcast could more specifically answer my question.

howie14
01-25-07, 10:38 AM
I've got sound on both 11-1 and 11-2 as of 6:30 AM this morning. It looks like WBAL got the PSIP problem worked out.

Ugh. I was still looking at black screen as of 7:30 or so this morning.

I'm going to hope they are still tweaking something my tuner doesn't like instead of panicking about the problem.

knnirs
01-25-07, 10:54 AM
OK, if you don't think I should get that antenna, speak now, or forever hold your peace. ;)

Also, can anyone find an attenuator on the site? There isn't a Radioshack right near me, and I don't have a car...might just order it online, and it would be nice to get everything together. Thanks.

You should try ANTALTMIKE's suggestion of a paper clip as an antenna. I tested this on my OnAir USB tuner, and observe signal levels from 4 to 28db on different OTA channels. Signal levels below 18 db are not useful, but if you really have overload the paper clip antenna should work as a test.

Good luck

bornyank1
01-25-07, 11:17 AM
You should try ANTALTMIKE's suggestion of a paper clip as an antenna. I tested this on my OnAir USB tuner, and observe signal levels from 4 to 28db on different OTA channels. Signal levels below 18 db are not useful, but if you really have overload the paper clip antenna should work as a test.

Good luck

Should I just wrap it around the prong of the coax cable?

afiggatt
01-25-07, 11:23 AM
Ugh. I was still looking at black screen as of 7:30 or so this morning.

I'm going to hope they are still tweaking something my tuner doesn't like instead of panicking about the problem.
The bad PSIP info may have messed up the channel settings. If entering channel 59 or 59.1 does not work, you may need to do a rescan in case the receiver is now messed up on where to tune to WBAL-DT.

AntAltMike
01-25-07, 11:34 AM
You ....I tested this on my OnAir USB tuner, and observe signal levels from 4 to 28db on different OTA channels. Signal levels below 18 db are not useful, but if you really have overload the paper clip antenna should work as a test.

I believe you mean that your self test indicated "signal to noise ratios" (SNR) of 4 to 28dB.

biker19
01-25-07, 12:17 PM
I was hoping the test pattern was it! :) I'd even settle for a webcam of the WJLA lobby... or the nearest Starbucks... maybe even Jiffy Lube bay #3. :D
After all this hype it better be something good.

mdviewer25
01-25-07, 12:58 PM
WBAL-DT is having PSIP issues, and it's causing my Windows Vista box to do the same thing. Media Center maps 59-1 in the EPG to channel 1111, but it still wants a PSIP of 11-1 or it gives "No TV Signal" In true Microsoft fashion, there's no way to override this. WatchHDTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590020) will manually tune 59-1 and get video, but I can't do much with it.

Try tuning your set to 59-1, or rescan and see if it adds 59-1. That should be WBAL-DT

My Samsung T451 receiver doesn't have any issues with 11-1 and 11-2. Shows up to date guide info for both channels. My USDTV receiver OTOH says 'No program information available.'

So, it's Wednesday....what's on 7.3?

(Less importantly) What channel number is it for FiOS?

I'm guessing it's some kind of ABC News Now/NewsChannel 8 hybrid.

So, now it's Thursday and what's on 7.3? A Test pattern, wow!!!

TVJunkyMonkey
01-25-07, 02:00 PM
i posted about this last week...but the real question is whether howard and ann arundel counties will lose access to the dc hd channels...they are not listed on the lineup sheet that accompanied the letter (only the baltimore hd channels are)...but i've called three different fios numbers and each tells me that there is no plan to remove the dc hd channels...of course, they have no explanation as to why those channels are no longer listed on the lineup sheet.

i guess we'll see on 2/20.


Well, I know this, those customer service reps don't know squat. Just 2 days before I received the letter to tell me about CSN HD, I actually called them and asked them how come we are not getting that channel. She told me because Comcast won't give it to them, and after calling and email Comcast and talking to them again, the second rep told me he doesn't know why. :mad:

Also I wouldn't trust that sheet, mine says that we will be getting the CSN Philadelphia. I am sure we are getting the DC CSN, so don't worry about the sheet. Don't bother calling them either, the reps don't know much at all, they need to get ones that specialize in FIOS TV only and actually have an idea of what they are telling their customers.

knnirs
01-25-07, 02:01 PM
Should I just wrap it around the prong of the coax cable?
No, you should plug the paper clip into the center terminal of the cable connector with the other end free in the air. This is a very weak antenna, but if it shows a weak signal you know the receiver is functioning.

jerwin
01-25-07, 02:30 PM
Last night, I watched the Magic Flute on 26-1-- great visuals, but the sound was decidedly subpar. I was listening to on B&W DM601 speakers in stereo mode, and I found it to be muffled, lacking dynamic range. and not at all engaging. I was curious as to the (lack of ) plot, so the subtitles helped me through. I was getting the odd audio dropout, but it seemed to lack any engaging qualities whatsoever-- quite unlike my CD collection.

Does WETA starve the audio stream for bits? Do I need a better antenna?

mikemikeb
01-25-07, 02:39 PM
Does WETA starve the audio stream for bits? Do I need a better antenna?
WETA starves its video stream. I don't know if they do that with the audio stream, but they might.

The way digital TV works, a "better" antenna won't improve the sound.

SJKurtzke
01-25-07, 03:29 PM
What's on 7.3?

(drum roll)

robertforsyth
01-25-07, 03:44 PM
What's on 7.3?

(drum roll)


Who's on First????


Its called LocalPoint. I'll let the content speak for itself. It is very out-of-the box thinking, 100% local, and I believe a really, really local alternative for television.

And no, I don't own a chunk, I just created the technology.

mikemikeb
01-25-07, 04:27 PM
What's the LocalPoint web address (if any)?

Anyway, I'm glad that 7-3 is online, whatever it is. I guess I'll have to check it out. And if it were sports content, I think we'd know by now. :)

Edit: By the way, I've made my general update to the OTA list, except for the link to the LocalPoint website. If there is none, I'm done for now. What are everybody's thoughts on it? Is it easier to navigate than the old list?

markbulla
01-25-07, 04:30 PM
The bad PSIP info may have messed up the channel settings. If entering channel 59 or 59.1 does not work, you may need to do a rescan in case the receiver is now messed up on where to tune to WBAL-DT.

Good news! I just checked WBAL's PSIP info, and there were no errors. I'm getting it fine in my office now. Last time I checked (lunch time) there were still issues, but now it's OK.

Mark

Added: OK, I posted too soon... I was checking something else, and it turns out that they aren't sending program guide info currently...

zebras23
01-25-07, 05:27 PM
Who's on First????


Its called LocalPoint. I'll let the content speak for itself. It is very out-of-the box thinking, 100% local, and I believe a really, really local alternative for television.

And no, I don't own a chunk, I just created the technology.

How long does it take Comcast, FiOS etc to add these stations to their line-ups? Are the considered "have to carry" under the law?

Thanks for keeping us updated.

biker19
01-25-07, 05:57 PM
Well, that 7.3 material is certainly different. For now, I'd say it's a better alternative to the weather ch.

yekim54
01-25-07, 06:20 PM
What's the LocalPoint web address (if any)?
http://www.localpointtv.com

Pyrr
01-25-07, 06:46 PM
Well, that 7.3 material is certainly different. For now, I'd say it's a better alternative to the weather ch.

Take a snap shot for us non-OTA people. Is it using the wxbug stuff?

Jeff

mikemikeb
01-25-07, 06:46 PM
Thanks, yekim54. I've updated the list to reflect Local Point's website and make a couple of other slight improvements. Until any new developments occur, the list has been completed.

My list is equally comprehensive and easier to use than CycloneGT's list.

Improvements over the standard:

1. Easier to spot station call letters / links to their websites
2. Baltimore and Washington stations are separated into their own lists.
3. Notations on which stations will move to the VHF band in 2009
4. Notations on which stations broadcast at lower power
5. Recognizes WFDC as a Univision affiliate and not the former Telefutura affiliation
6. More links to subchannels' websites
7. No redundant numbers. For example, no notation of "6" referring to WTTG. Also, "007-02" on CycloneGT's list is labeled in mine as "7-2", etc.
8. No redundant notations of affiliation in subchannels (7-2 isn't labeled as ABC like 7-1)
9. Local Point is noted and linked
10. More colorful :D

Any constructive criticism to either of our lists is appreciated.

CycloneGT
01-25-07, 06:58 PM
My list goes to 11.

Eben
01-25-07, 07:18 PM
I'm seriously considering having an ISF calibration done to my Toshiba 57h84 rptv. Has anyone used any of the following:

http://www.homecentric.com/video.htm
http://www.infinitesightandsound.com/What_Are_HAA_and_ISF_Certification__q.php
http://displaycalibrationonline.com/

TIA

jacindc
01-25-07, 07:20 PM
My list is equally comprehensive and easier to use than CycloneGT's list.

Any constructive criticism to either of our lists is appreciated.

Is "my goodness gracious, what is your problem?" considered constructive?

That first sentence comes off as unbelievably snotty. "Comprehensive and easier to use" is our decision, not yours.

Stop already!

fmsjr
01-25-07, 07:49 PM
2. Baltimore and Washington stations are separated into their own lists.

Hey! What do you mean Annapolis is a "Baltimore area" station! We're ANNAPOLIS! ;)

mr b
01-25-07, 11:01 PM
Well, PG County folks...I was able to successfully submit an order for FIOS TV tonight via the website. Gave me a 2/7 install date.

Just a heads up, only central offices that are currently equipped for TV will be able to offer the service at this point.

Tony

mikemikeb
01-25-07, 11:14 PM
I've been watching Local Point occasionally tonight. Yeah, it's different than what I've seen before, to the point of culture shock. It reminds me of MHz, actually, with more of a local perspective.

I could only see the top half of the 9 PM legal ID. The bottom half was blocked by the video. Also, at times there were four scrolling banners on the screen at once. It was difficult to read them all simultaneously.

7-2 and 7-3 both are now pretty low-motion. Of course, stat mux would be the best option to increase HD bandwidth when needed, but that money was spent building Local Point. :) However, 7-3's, and especially 7-2's, bandwidth could be lowered toward 2.25 mbps video, and 7-1's bandwidth could be set in the 14-14.3 mbps video range (and the more the better). Yeah, that comes from the same guy who once suggested 30 fps 720p, but I'm sure others would support me this time, at least on this. :D

Loudoun50
01-26-07, 12:27 AM
I noticed some changes to the unencrypted QAM channels. While I didn't have time to check them all out, here's what I could find quickly:

103.1 NBC HD
116.1 CBS HD
116.2 FOX HD
117.10 DISCOVERY HD THEATER

ABC and PBS are still MIA. Anyone seem them?

robertforsyth
01-26-07, 05:26 AM
I've been watching Local Point occasionally tonight. Yeah, it's different than what I've seen before, to the point of culture shock. It reminds me of MHz, actually, with more of a local perspective.

I could only see the top half of the 9 PM legal ID. The bottom half was blocked by the video. Also, at times there were four scrolling banners on the screen at once. It was difficult to read them all simultaneously.

7-2 and 7-3 both are now pretty low-motion. Of course, stat mux would be the best option to increase HD bandwidth when needed, but that money was spent building Local Point. :) However, 7-3's, and especially 7-2's, bandwidth could be lowered toward 2.25 mbps video, and 7-1's bandwidth could be set in the 14-14.3 mbps video range (and the more the better). Yeah, that comes from the same guy who once suggested 30 fps 720p, but I'm sure others would support me this time, at least on this. :D

The next step is to purchase and install NetVX from Harris and replace our 10 year old Flexicoder. This will allow for dynamic bitrate shifting and MUCH BETTER encoders on the input side. The cash outlay is steep ($200K), but I the owner convinced that we need this to ensure the PQ on 7-1 is the best we can provide.

I can then pull back a little on WeatherNow an LP at night and increase them during the day. Harris can actually get (2) 720P HD streams and (1) SD stream to work in NetVX, although I ain't seen it yet. :)

dg28
01-26-07, 07:51 AM
Thanks Robert for your innovation with 7.3 and for keeping us up to date here. Just watched for a little bit yesterday and it is definitely something different. My first comment is that it's always a good thing to see Allison Starling get more air, she's quite easy on the eyes. Substantively, the key will be to keep the information fresh and up to date. It would be a complete waste of bandwidth if the information presented was "yesterday's news." Keep up the good work.

Bill Johnson
01-26-07, 08:47 AM
However, 7-3's, and especially 7-2's, bandwidth could be lowered toward 2.25 mbps video, and 7-1's bandwidth could be set in the 14-14.3 mbps video range (and the more the better).
Someday I sincerely hope there will be a concerted effort to improve HD PQ because of economic pressure. Until then, pressure will be in the opposite direction, the WOW factor will just be a fond memory, and HD Lite will reign supreme!

jimrobinette
01-26-07, 09:21 AM
I agree!


Is "my goodness gracious, what is your problem?" considered constructive?

That first sentence comes off as unbelievably snotty. "Comprehensive and easier to use" is our decision, not yours.

Stop already!

blambert
01-26-07, 09:23 AM
An Update on AA county local Fios.

I was able to order the cheapest local Fios package with the HD-DVR box. After the install, I have all local HD channels for both Baltimore and Washington, as well as all of the On demand content for the channels not included in the local package. It is a great deal for people who are only interested in HD content.

biker19
01-26-07, 09:36 AM
An Update on AA county local Fios.

I was able to order the cheapest local Fios package with the HD-DVR box. After the install, I have all local HD channels for both Baltimore and Washington, as well as all of the On demand content for the channels not included in the local package. It is a great deal for people who are only interested in HD content.
Yeah, for folks that watch mainly network material (but don't want to deal with OTA) an HD DVR+local service at $26+tax/mo is a decent deal. Any "extra" clear QAM chs?

CycloneGT
01-26-07, 09:38 AM
Will Local point always been a "short story" format, or will they cover local events live? A lot of potential here. I agree that its "out of the box" thinking.

JoeInNVa
01-26-07, 01:38 PM
Any chance you can make WeatherNow all Weather?

robertforsyth
01-26-07, 01:40 PM
Any chance you can make WeatherNow all Weather?

besides the news headlines in the lower left, what is not weather?

robertforsyth
01-26-07, 01:43 PM
Will Local point always been a "short story" format, or will they cover local events live? A lot of potential here. I agree that its "out of the box" thinking.


LP will never be 'an always - something'. It will evolve. What you see now is just the VERY TIP of the iceberg I have barrelling down the hill towards the viewers. The technology is so different from traditional broadcasting, it allows us to get creative with the content.

I will continue to post more as we roll out features, for certain reasons, I have to keep those close to the vest. :)

Mike20878
01-26-07, 02:59 PM
LP will never be 'an always - something'. It will evolve. What you see now is just the VERY TIP of the iceberg I have barrelling down the hill towards the viewers. The technology is so different from traditional broadcasting, it allows us to get creative with the content.

I will continue to post more as we roll out features, for certain reasons, I have to keep those close to the vest. :)

Someone asked, but I didn't see a response yet. Is this on Comcast?

essay
01-26-07, 03:02 PM
I noticed some changes to the unencrypted QAM channels. While I didn't have time to check them all out, here's what I could find quickly:

103.1 NBC HD
116.1 CBS HD
116.2 FOX HD
117.10 DISCOVERY HD THEATER

ABC and PBS are still MIA. Anyone seem them?

As far as I remember:

83.1 PBS (WETA-HD)
83.5 ABC HD

Anyone get any other unencrypted QAM channels?

armand1
01-26-07, 03:03 PM
For those of you have have been struggling with OTA reception problems within metro DC due to various multipath and interference problems I've found a solution that works in Chevy Chase/Bethesda area. I have a Winegard PR-4400 4-Bay antenna on the roof and had been trying two different tuners the Samsung SIR-T451 and an older SIR-TS360 with limited success. I just purchased the new Samsung DTB-H260F at Circuit City and it solved all my problems. Reception is great, colors are perfect, and much easier to channel surf than older tuners. Now I receive all stations within 15 mile radius perfectly without any dropouts and without rotating the antenna.

So those of you out there go out and get the Samsung DTB-H260F it'll solve most of your reception problems. Finally, I won't need Comcast cable anymore.

robertforsyth
01-26-07, 03:39 PM
Someone asked, but I didn't see a response yet. Is this on Comcast?


Not yet. :)

HankV
01-26-07, 04:44 PM
Good news! I just checked WBAL's PSIP info, and there were no errors. I'm getting it fine in my office now. Last time I checked (lunch time) there were still issues, but now it's OK.

Mark

Added: OK, I posted too soon... I was checking something else, and it turns out that they aren't sending program guide info currently...

I know many of you have called or e-mailed over the past several days and we have not had a chance to return many e-mails or answer phones.

The problem was caused by an upgrade of our encoding software from Triveni. The new version caused issues with our Harmonics Transport Stream Encoder that caused a conflict. Although the PIDS for 11-1 and 11-2 were correctly assigned (0x31, 0x34, 0x41, 0x44) and the PMT was correct (0x30, 0x40). the Harmonic was confused by the PSI stream and encoded them as Program 1 (0x10) and Program 2 (0x20) which are not allowed anymore by the ATSC standard. Furthermore, as Program 1 and Program 2, the PIDS were incorrect.

Triveni support took several days of between phone calls and complete software changeouts correct the problem.

Some receivers were not affected, some could tune to 59-1 and recover, some went to black. An old DTC-100 worked perfectly while an Accurian wouldn't see the signal. The demodulators of course worked fine (being high-end units). Comcast and Verizon FIOS were unaffected. Comcast is OTA, Verizon is a direct MPEG-2 transport stream feed.

I hope that helped answer your questions.

Hank Volpe
Director of Engineering
WBAL-TV/WBAL-DT /WBAL-AM/WIYY-FM/HD
Baltimore MD

ashutoshsm
01-26-07, 04:59 PM
I noticed some changes to the unencrypted QAM channels. While I didn't have time to check them all out, here's what I could find quickly:

103.1 NBC HD
116.1 CBS HD
116.2 FOX HD
117.10 DISCOVERY HD THEATER

ABC and PBS are still MIA. Anyone seem them?

Thanks for the update ... I'll try QAMing a few channels this evening. Ever since I got the S3 TiVo, I don't even have cable connected to my TV directly :)

I DO remember getting PBS and ABC, though ... let me ee if I cana ccess my home system and tell you the date/channel assignments from abck in November/December (pre Comcast, of course) for those two ...

Here's the comprehensive list of what my TiVo's QAM tuner picked up in the first week of November before I installed the CableCards (which now hide the channel assignments) ...

100 onwards (Cable QAM)
100s Nothing
101-1,2
101-3 Fox HD CC
102s Nothing
103-1 NBC-HD CC
103-2 CBS-HD CC
103-3 ABC-HD CC
104s Nothing
105s Nothing
106-21to28 Music No Video !CC
107s Nothing
108-1 PPV Inset Box Top Right !CC
108s VOD, Various!!!
112s Nothing
113s Nothing until ...
113-20to33 MusicChoice
114s Nothing until ...
114-19to33 MusicChoice
114-114 Nothing
115s Nothing

Oh - missed this section in my file ...
72-1 onwards (Cable QAM)

72-1to14 Nothing
72-21to25 Music No Video
72-60,67 Nothing
73-1to14 Nothing
73-21to25 Music No Video
73-67 Nothing
74-all Nothing
75s, 76s Nothing
77-1to13 Nothing
77-21to40 Music No Video
77-67 Nothing
78-2 inDemand Ad Channel
78s (rest) Nothing
79s Nothing
80-8 Nothing
81s Nothing
82s Nothing
83-1 PBS-HD (WETADT-HD)
83-2to4 Nothing
84s Nothing
87s Nothing
88s Nothing
92-1to13 Nothing
92-19to33 MusicChoice
92-14 Nothing (yes, occurs out of order, not uncommon)
93s Nothing
94-1to53 Music Choice (53 chnnels!)
94-54,61 Nothing
95s Nothing



Comparing it t your list - it seems NBC is unchanged, Fox & CBS have moved, PBS & CBS have vanished? Sheesh! Buy an S3 TiVo ;)
Jokes aside - that isn't good - you should call in and complain, and let me know what number you call - I will too, to help my S3 TiVo deprived neighbors ;)

<edit> added another section - PBS is, or was, on 83-1

mikemikeb
01-26-07, 05:06 PM
Harris can actually get (2) 720P HD streams and (1) SD stream to work in NetVX, although I ain't seen it yet. :)
That's a bunch of marketing hooey. One 720p + two 480i subs is more realistic IF you want the PQ to be good across the board.

I know that this won't get done for a long time for very understandable reasons, but if Allison Starling is easy on the eyes now, then what if she was in HD...?

CycloneGT
01-26-07, 06:01 PM
Welcome Hank, its great to see you posting here.

buri
01-27-07, 08:45 AM
Hi folks, back again.

I originally posted my OTA woes a few days back (post #10, page 1) Based on the advice I got, I swapped out the Terk for the Channel Master 4221. Analog quality improved immediately (7 and 9 look exactly like what I get out of normal cable service), but I still receive no digital signal at any orientation/elevation.

The antenna is connected to a Sony Bravia KDL-46V25L1. Its specs include:
ATSC (8VSB terrestrial) -- ATSC compliant 8VSB

Regards,
BU

Bill Johnson
01-27-07, 09:39 AM
OK, somebody needs to help buri here. Quite a tv he has. 1080p, ATSC tuner, QAM capability. Have you done a channel scan? Connected via component or HDMI and not composite? Any difficult to find settings on tv blocking UHF? A defective tuner? Other suggestions?

afiggatt
01-27-07, 11:08 AM
I originally posted my OTA woes a few days back (post #10, page 1) Based on the advice I got, I swapped out the Terk for the Channel Master 4221. Analog quality improved immediately (7 and 9 look exactly like what I get out of normal cable service), but I still receive no digital signal at any orientation/elevation.

The antenna is connected to a Sony Bravia KDL-46V25L1. Its specs include:
ATSC (8VSB terrestrial) -- ATSC compliant 8VSB
There is something wrong. You should be getting a number of digital stations with the ATSC tuner, if you are picking up the analog stations.

I assume your TV is identical to the Sony KDL-46V2500. That is the closest match I can find on Sony's website. I downloaded the manual which shows that the TV has a single RF coaxial input connector - correct? Some TVs have 2 RF input, one for analog/cable, one for digital, that is why I looked it up. The specs in the manual show that the Sony can handle analog NTSC, ATSC OTA, and clear QAM cable channels up to 135 (which means it can handle 850 MHz digital cable systems).

Scanning the manual, you have gone into digital setup menu and done the Auto Program scan as outlined on page 38, correct? You have to do a scan for it to find the digital channels. The antenna is connected through the coaxial cable and the antenna is aimed east to south-east? I just to make sure that you have covered the basic steps here. Because if you have and it still does not work, you may have a bad ATSC tuner.

buri
01-27-07, 11:21 AM
This model has a single RF input. I'm not using anything other than the coax input for the OTA testing.

What I've been doing is running the Auto-Program at 5 degree intervals around 114 degrees in three different locations, one outside a second floor window, and two up in the attic. I've swapped the coax-cable as well. I guess it's looking more and more like the tuner itself might be defective, which is a shame since everything else about the TV is excellent.

Are there any commercially available tools for checking the tuner?

Regards,
BU

rustycruiser
01-27-07, 01:25 PM
My list goes to 11.

:D :D

flyingtoaster
01-27-07, 02:18 PM
I have Verizon FiOS in Anne Arundel County. Does anyone else notice what looks like translucent, rolling dark horizontal bars (hum bars?) on channel 13 (WJZ-SD)? Any idea where in the system these are being inserted?

biker19
01-27-07, 02:25 PM
This model has a single RF input. I'm not using anything other than the coax input for the OTA testing.

What I've been doing is running the Auto-Program at 5 degree intervals around 114 degrees in three different locations, one outside a second floor window, and two up in the attic. I've swapped the coax-cable as well. I guess it's looking more and more like the tuner itself might be defective, which is a shame since everything else about the TV is excellent.

Are there any commercially available tools for checking the tuner?

Regards,
BU
Use WETA 26 analog ch to adjust your antenna. Once you have that coming in pretty good if you don't get any digital chs then indeed something might be wrong with the tuner.

afiggatt
01-27-07, 03:07 PM
I have Verizon FiOS in Anne Arundel County. Does anyone else notice what looks like translucent, rolling dark horizontal bars (hum bars?) on channel 13 (WJZ-SD)? Any idea where in the system these are being inserted?
Rolling shaded horizontal bars are a classic symptom of a ground loop. A ground loop occurs when the TV, STB, A/V boxes, or an input line is not or poorly grounded to same ground as the rest of the gear. The most common cause of ground loop from avsforum post appears to be a poorly grounded cable line (which happened to me when I was connected to Comcast in Reston but was easy to fix). But since Fios runs glass fiber to the ONT, the problem is not a poorly grounded cable line coming into the house. Do these shaded bars show up on any other channel? Analog or digital channels? I will check my Verizon analog channels for this in case the ground problem is at the source.

afiggatt
01-27-07, 03:26 PM
This model has a single RF input. I'm not using anything other than the coax input for the OTA testing.

What I've been doing is running the Auto-Program at 5 degree intervals around 114 degrees in three different locations, one outside a second floor window, and two up in the attic. I've swapped the coax-cable as well. I guess it's looking more and more like the tuner itself might be defective, which is a shame since everything else about the TV is excellent.

Are there any commercially available tools for checking the tuner?
Your problem is likely a bad ATSC tuner, but this is difficult to confirm if you don't get any digital stations at all. Check your private messages as I am willing to bring over a Accurian ATSC receiver I have sitting around for some fault isolation.

tonyd79
01-27-07, 08:46 PM
I know many of you have called or e-mailed over the past several days and we have not had a chance to return many e-mails or answer phones.


Hank. thanks. Welcome to the forum. Hope you hang out often.

yekim54
01-28-07, 11:09 AM
I was going to post this as response to Washington Post story about the guy's $1,399 HDTV, but the thread was closed before I could get to it. I thought this was funny as well.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/features/lifestyle/bal-to.cowherd18jan18,0,3263350.column?coll=bal-home-columnists
The author of that Washington Post story (Howard Bryant) posted a mea culpa in today's Business section on page F3. He says he got over 100 emails chastising him for misleading readers with his story about buying and installing his HDTV that appeared in the 1/21/2007 issue of the Post.

jerry78bug
01-28-07, 07:15 PM
I've noticed som audio dropouts on Fox HD (5.1) on 24 the last couple of weeks. I've upgraded to the D* H20-700 DVR so that may have something to do with it, but I was curious if anybody else was having any issues. I've never had issues with FOX before.
I have the same problem with the D*tv FoxHD from Baltimore. I would explain it as a digital stutter. I have an optical connection to a JVC audio receiver. The problem doesn't occur on the non-HD channel.

ashutoshsm
01-28-07, 09:30 PM
The author of that Washington Post story (Howard Bryant) posted a mea culpa in today's Business section on page F3. He says he got over 100 emails chastising him for misleading readers with his story about buying and installing his HDTV that appeared in the 1/21/2007 issue of the Post.

What's sad is it is the article that is noticeable, and the mea culpas get posted as an afterthought, hidden deep in some unrelated section, usually. The article has had its impact and convinced many ont he verge to hold back on their tech purchases, while further reinforcing to those in the know that newspaper tech writers will do anything, and research as little as possible, to get an article out the door. Usually!

subwoofer
01-28-07, 09:40 PM
I know I've posted this question before but I want to get a fresh answer:

What website do you use to know what HD content is available on TV? I use: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/28/hdtv-listing-for-january-28-2007/

Marcus Carr
01-28-07, 11:29 PM
I know I've posted this question before but I want to get a fresh answer:

What website do you use to know what HD content is available on TV? I use: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/28/hdtv-listing-for-january-28-2007/


http://tvlistings5.zap2it.com/tvlistings/processZipcode.do

inlogan
01-29-07, 06:30 AM
Well I know some of us get frustrated in about month when it's the ACC basketball tournament and we have to deal with SD because of Raycom and the ESPN blackout. Well I emailed Raycom last night asking about HD and got a quick reply:

>Richard:

>Thank you for your feedback. Currently, Raycom Sports and Lincoln
>Financial Sports are testing "non-network" HD delivery of our ACC
>Basketball telecasts with our local stations throughout the ACC
>Territory. If the tests are successful, we have plans in place to
>produce and deliver the entire ACC Basketball Tournament in HD.

>Thank you,
>Raycom Sports & Lincoln Financial Sports

I'm not sure what non-network means, but I'm sure one of you could tell me ;) At least this sounds promising!

rosh400
01-29-07, 08:02 AM
The author of that Washington Post story (Howard Bryant) posted a mea culpa in today's Business section on page F3. He says he got over 100 emails chastising him for misleading readers with his story about buying and installing his HDTV that appeared in the 1/21/2007 issue of the Post.

I was one of the 100. I never got a response and figured the guy blew me off. As another poster pointed out -- the damage is done but at least he owned up to the fact that he made some mistakes. Many news outlets never do.

I was pleased that one of my comments made it into his article.

Check your settings: Your comment about having to buy HD DVD or Blu-ray to have a correct aspect ratio is completely misleading. You probably had a setting in either the DVD player or the TV that was wrong. If you correct your settings, you won't have that problem. Do yourself a favor and read your user manuals and check your settings.

One can only hope that he actually tried this at home and is now enjoying DVD's played in their correct aspect ratio on his new TV.

MrMike6by9
01-29-07, 08:10 AM
I know I've posted this question before but I want to get a fresh answer:

What website do you use to know what HD content is available on TV? I use: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/28/hdtv-listing-for-january-28-2007/www.titantv.com (http://www.titantv.com)

YMMV

markbulla
01-29-07, 08:25 AM
I have the same problem with the D*tv FoxHD from Baltimore. I would explain it as a digital stutter. I have an optical connection to a JVC audio receiver. The problem doesn't occur on the non-HD channel.

I got an e-mail from one D* viewer last week about the same problem. Since it's happening on both 45 and 5, it would seem as though it would be a FOX network issue, but I haven't found the problem yet.

Mark

tonyd79
01-29-07, 09:57 AM
I was one of the 100. I never got a response and figured the guy blew me off. As another poster pointed out -- the damage is done but at least he owned up to the fact that he made some mistakes. Many news outlets never do.

I was pleased that one of my comments made it into his article.

Check your settings: Your comment about having to buy HD DVD or Blu-ray to have a correct aspect ratio is completely misleading. You probably had a setting in either the DVD player or the TV that was wrong. If you correct your settings, you won't have that problem. Do yourself a favor and read your user manuals and check your settings.

One can only hope that he actually tried this at home and is now enjoying DVD's played in their correct aspect ratio on his new TV.

I also wrote to him about the DVD part of his article being wrong. But the rest of it was pretty good, especially for a mainstream publication. I complimented him on his article overall.

Also, if you read what he says, only SOME of the 100 emails were critical. Not all.

STANLEY02
01-29-07, 11:10 AM
I've had the same problem over the last couple weeks with the audio on FOX 45-1 & 5-1. I noticed it on 45 and switched over to 5 and the same thing was happening. I think it has only happened on the national TV shows and not the local shows.

Ladd
01-29-07, 11:11 AM
Any local HD PBS/MPT station showing Live at the Met "The Magic Flute" tonight (repeat from last Saturday) in 5.1 audio? WETA had stereo the first time ...

markbulla
01-29-07, 11:42 AM
I've had the same problem over the last couple weeks with the audio on FOX 45-1 & 5-1. I noticed it on 45 and switched over to 5 and the same thing was happening. I think it has only happened on the national TV shows and not the local shows.

Out of curiosity, are you watching on DirecTV also?

Mark

rosh400
01-29-07, 02:13 PM
I also wrote to him about the DVD part of his article being wrong. But the rest of it was pretty good, especially for a mainstream publication. I complimented him on his article overall.

Also, if you read what he says, only SOME of the 100 emails were critical. Not all.

I thought his comments on not being able to play SD DVD's was especially harmful given that in my mind and the limited amount of HD programming, DVD playback is one of the best uses for an HDTV. It's not HDTV but with a good display, a good player, and proper calibration, it's close.

I also thought that his comment about only 6 percent of programming is HD. That's true if one looks at all the channels but that channel total includes many channels that many of us never watch. I have about 50 channels on my favorites list which brings the percentage up to 25.

mdviewer25
01-29-07, 02:54 PM
I've had the same problem over the last couple weeks with the audio on FOX 45-1 & 5-1. I noticed it on 45 and switched over to 5 and the same thing was happening. I think it has only happened on the national TV shows and not the local shows.

I've also noticed that problem and I'm watching OTA. The audio for the show would seem too low and then it would go back to normal for the commercials.

JoeInNVa
01-29-07, 02:57 PM
besides the news headlines in the lower left, what is not weather?

Well, the lower 1/3 of the screen is all "news". The right upper 1/3 has a current temp in a city, while the lower half of that right 1/3 is all an Ad. Relegating the radar to about 1/4 of the screen, which most of us want to see.

JoeInNVa
01-29-07, 02:59 PM
I know I've posted this question before but I want to get a fresh answer:

What website do you use to know what HD content is available on TV? I use: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/28/hdtv-listing-for-january-28-2007/

I don't...I use the Comcast Guide and if I see anything I like, I either watch it or DVR it.

hoyty
01-29-07, 04:08 PM
I was curious where the imaginary line is drawn between DC locals and Balt locals for DirecTV. I have lived south of DC and now North of Baltimore and in each case have only gotten one or the other. However if you live in someplace on 95/295 corridor in between can you get both? Also is it the same on Dish and the cables?

Scott R. Scherr
01-29-07, 04:13 PM
Mark:

I am not the original poster. I had the same audio problem with D's HD feed of American Idol on channel 45 Wednesday night. I have the HR 20-700 also.

Scott

Out of curiosity, are you watching on DirecTV also?

Mark

markbulla
01-29-07, 04:16 PM
I was curious where the imaginary line is drawn between DC locals and Balt locals for DirecTV. I have lived south of DC and now North of Baltimore and in each case have only gotten one or the other. However if you live in someplace on 95/295 corridor in between can you get both? Also is it the same on Dish and the cables?

Not in Laurel - depending on which county you live in, Dish will either give you DC or Baltimore, but not both.

Mark

HDDAVID
01-29-07, 04:24 PM
Hello Hoyty..Do you have D* where you live? If so, how has your experience been with them? Currently i live in Columbia, but will be moving to Parkville in a few months,and already purchased the D* HR-20 HD DVR. I'm just waiting to move before I hook everything up.
Right now I have Comcast and get all the DC and Baltimore locals, but only the Baltimore locals in HD

dneily
01-29-07, 04:41 PM
Any local HD PBS/MPT station showing Live at the Met "The Magic Flute" tonight (repeat from last Saturday) in 5.1 audio? WETA had stereo the first time ...

WETA still has no DD 5.1 encoder, but WMPT does. I watch all PBS HD music programs on Maryland Public TV. The DD 5.1 makes a big difference.

hoyty
01-29-07, 04:49 PM
Hello Hoyty..Do you have D* where you live? If so, how has your experience been with them? Currently i live in Columbia, but will be moving to Parkville in a few months,and already purchased the D* HR-20 HD DVR. I'm just waiting to move before I hook everything up.
Right now I have Comcast and get all the DC and Baltimore locals, but only the Baltimore locals in HD

Yep I have D* currently. Moved to Parkville almost 2 years ago and been working without issue. I have older 3 LNB dish and don't get HD locals over dish. I am able to get everything except 22 well with my roof antenna.

buri
01-29-07, 05:47 PM
Hi folks, back again.

I originally posted my OTA woes a few days back (post #10, page 1) Based on the advice I got, I swapped out the Terk for the Channel Master 4221. Analog quality improved immediately (7 and 9 look exactly like what I get out of normal cable service), but I still receive no digital signal at any orientation/elevation.

The antenna is connected to a Sony Bravia KDL-46V25L1. Its specs include:
ATSC (8VSB terrestrial) -- ATSC compliant 8VSB

afiggatt was kind enough to come out this afternoon with an HD tuner and I was able to immediately pick up quite a few channels without any issues. Apparently the ATSC tuner in the new TV is defective, so I'll be contacting Sony next to see what my repair options are.

Regards,
BU

ashutoshsm
01-29-07, 06:24 PM
http://tvlistings5.zap2it.com/tvlistings/processZipcode.do

That's the only one I'd recommend, too, and the only one I ever use.

It is Tribune Media Services' official listings site, and is where all my TiVos (including the S3 HD TiVo, keeping thi post on topic) get their guide info, and it rocks!

fmsjr
01-29-07, 07:49 PM
I was curious where the imaginary line is drawn between DC locals and Balt locals for DirecTV. I have lived south of DC and now North of Baltimore and in each case have only gotten one or the other. However if you live in someplace on 95/295 corridor in between can you get both? Also is it the same on Dish and the cables?
The Patuxent is the boundary. The water absorbs the signals! :D

tonyd79
01-29-07, 07:56 PM
fmsjr's attempts at humor notwithstanding, the Patuxent is mostly the line. Howard County and Anne Arundel are Baltimore markets. PG County and Montgomery are DC markets. DirecTV follows those lines for the most part (if not totally).

Ladd
01-29-07, 08:51 PM
WETA still has no DD 5.1 encoder, but WMPT does. I watch all PBS HD music programs on Maryland Public TV. The DD 5.1 makes a big difference.
I just spent 20 minutes on the MPT site and couldn't find any show on any MPT station that listed a show as being 5.1 audio. Lots of HD shows, many listed as "stereo" but nothing more than that.

Could you point me to a station or show that broadcasts in 5.1 so I can look it up?

Sun Ra
01-29-07, 09:33 PM
Does anybody else have problems getting a strong signal from WBAL? Even after the channel came back online recently, I I geting occasional signal drops for a couple seconds, I get a much better signal from WRC in DC currently, and I am in northern baltimore (parkville). just seems odd that the station 6 miles away comes in far poorer then the one 40 miles away.

attgig
01-30-07, 12:45 AM
I'm trying to figure out QAM tunings to the unscrambled channels via comcast baltimore city. Does anyone have this list or know where i can find it?

I have CBS - 91-13
espn - 128-2
and espn2 - 128-1


anyone have a full listing?

tia

CycloneGT
01-30-07, 09:33 AM
I just spent 20 minutes on the MPT site and couldn't find any show on any MPT station that listed a show as being 5.1 audio. Lots of HD shows, many listed as "stereo" but nothing more than that.

Could you point me to a station or show that broadcasts in 5.1 so I can look it up?Sounds more like a problem with MPT's website than with their broadcastsing. You'll just have to watch MPT and wait for the DD5.1 indicator on your receiver to light up.

HDDAVID
01-30-07, 09:47 AM
Thanks Hoyty for the reply. I've had Comcast for the past 5 years with no problems(believe it or not) and signing up for D* is going to be a leap of faith for me. Guess I'm most concerned about interuptions in service during bad weather(like I've seen on before). Also I bought the new HD-DVR and I've heard and read its somewhat buggy.
Sun Ra, I agree with your comments about WBAL and Parkville reception.

hoyty
01-30-07, 03:21 PM
Does anybody else have problems getting a strong signal from WBAL? Even after the channel came back online recently, I I geting occasional signal drops for a couple seconds, I get a much better signal from WRC in DC currently, and I am in northern baltimore (parkville). just seems odd that the station 6 miles away comes in far poorer then the one 40 miles away.

I don't have any problems with WBAL (that I have noticed). However I am curious what your antenna setup is? I have an 8-bay channel master on the roof and I can't really get any DC channels. I found this interesting since I could get Baltimore stations when I used to live in Alexandria.

hoyty
01-30-07, 03:23 PM
Thanks Hoyty for the reply. I've had Comcast for the past 5 years with no problems(believe it or not) and signing up for D* is going to be a leap of faith for me. Guess I'm most concerned about interuptions in service during bad weather(like I've seen on before). Also I bought the new HD-DVR and I've heard and read its somewhat buggy.
Sun Ra, I agree with your comments about WBAL and Parkville reception.

With a properly mounted dish and no trees you shouldn't have problems with D*. I have only had an hour or two total over 6 years of D* use with bad reception due to weather. If you want any information on the HR20 check out dbstalk.com.

MapMaker18
01-30-07, 04:09 PM
Quick question for you Comcast subscribers out there.

Can comcast provide digital cable boxes with component outputs even though you don't subscribe to there HD service? The reason I'm asking is because I use an antenna and my QAM tuner to get HD channels, but watch regular cable through the cable box. The highest output it has is S-Video. Its decent, but will a box with component outputs look better?

Thanks!

dneily
01-30-07, 04:31 PM
I just spent 20 minutes on the MPT site and couldn't find any show on any MPT station that listed a show as being 5.1 audio. Lots of HD shows, many listed as "stereo" but nothing more than that.

Could you point me to a station or show that broadcasts in 5.1 so I can look it up?

MPT always broadcasts Soundstage in DD 5.1 every Thursday at 10:00 p.m.

bornyank1
01-30-07, 04:35 PM
No, you should plug the paper clip into the center terminal of the cable connector with the other end free in the air. This is a very weak antenna, but if it shows a weak signal you know the receiver is functioning.

I actually got pretty much the same channels, 26 and 50, with the paper clip as I did with the GE Optima and the Silver Sensor. Do you think I should try a UHF loop atenna or an attenuator, or should I just give up on those OTA HD Superbowl dreams?

knnirs
01-30-07, 10:06 PM
I actually got pretty much the same channels, 26 and 50, with the paper clip as I did with the GE Optima and the Silver Sensor. Do you think I should try a UHF loop atenna or an attenuator, or should I just give up on those OTA HD Superbowl dreams?
The test with the paper clip indicates your problem is not likely to be from overloading. Therefore, don't use an attenuator. You need to find a way to obtain a stronger signal.

AntAltMike
01-30-07, 10:20 PM
Did you try looking at channel 14 analog? It comes off the same tower as 48 NBC digital. Move your antenna around until 14 analog looks as clear as you can make it, and then try 48 digital again with the antenna in that position.

afiggatt
01-30-07, 10:44 PM
I actually got pretty much the same channels, 26 and 50, with the paper clip as I did with the GE Optima and the Silver Sensor. Do you think I should try a UHF loop atenna or an attenuator, or should I just give up on those OTA HD Superbowl dreams?
I think your problem is that you are on the wrong side of a steel frame and concrete building which is blocking the direct signals from the towers. IIRC, you have a directional UHF antenna - aim it out the window at the flat face of buildings in the opposite direction of the broadcast stations to see if you can pick up a reflection of the signals. I would also try putting a basic non-amplified UHF loop antenna with a 75 Ohm connection in the window to see what analog and digital stations it picks up. Radio Shack, Best Buy, Circuit City, and other stores should have one.

Dizzy
01-30-07, 11:07 PM
Anyone have any idea when Verizon Fios is actually gonna start offering service in Montgomery County? I know they got the County Council approval last fall....AFTER Verizon sused the county..lol. And I remember them mentioning that it will start this year...but when???

I'm waiting to see if their initial offering is worth it for me to jump from D*. Thanks for any answers.

philo77
01-31-07, 12:45 AM
Anyone have any idea when Verizon Fios is actually gonna start offering service in Montgomery County? I know they got the County Council approval last fall....AFTER Verizon sused the county..lol. And I remember them mentioning that it will start this year...but when???

I'm waiting to see if their initial offering is worth it for me to jump from D*. Thanks for any answers.Verizon started installing FiOS TV in parts of MoCo, including Bethesda, in December.

You may be able to get TV service now, depending on which central office you're connected to. Go to the FIOS website at http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv
Enter your phone number and it will tell you if TV service is available. The website lists the various packages and prices.

If service is available, and you want to place an order, I suggest you do it by phone rather than on the website. There have been some scheduling mix-ups with the website ordering system lately. You may also be able to find out about special offers, haggle for a better deal, etc.

carltonrice
01-31-07, 07:04 AM
You may be able to get TV service now, depending on which central office you're connected to. Go to the FIOS website at http://www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv
Enter your phone number and it will tell you if TV service is available. The website lists the various packages and prices.

If service is available, and you want to place an order, I suggest you do it by phone rather than on the website. There have been some scheduling mix-ups with the website ordering system lately. You may also be able to find out about special offers, haggle for a better deal, etc.

I plugged my phone number into this website and for the first time, it indicates that FiOS TV is available to me. I live in Prince George's County just outside of the Laurel city limit. I don't know if I'm ready to ditch my DirecTV for it just yet, but it's interesting that the website says it's available here. I would have expected a phone call or a mailing from VZ to get my business, but maybe that will come soon.

I see the price for the basic 200 channel service is $43 a month. What does the HD service and DVR add to that price? How much are the movie channels in HD?

knnirs
01-31-07, 09:19 AM
I actually got pretty much the same channels, 26 and 50, with the paper clip as I did with the GE Optima and the Silver Sensor. Do you think I should try a UHF loop atenna or an attenuator, or should I just give up on those OTA HD Superbowl dreams?
Have you tried using the cable and tuning with the Qam option in your TV? You should find many Qam channels connecting your TV directly to the cable outlet without the cable box. I get all of the local digital HD channels this way.

Newmie
01-31-07, 09:45 AM
I plugged my phone number into this website and for the first time, it indicates that FiOS TV is available to me. I live in Prince George's County just outside of the Laurel city limit. I don't know if I'm ready to ditch my DirecTV for it just yet, but it's interesting that the website says it's available here. I would have expected a phone call or a mailing from VZ to get my business, but maybe that will come soon.

I see the price for the basic 200 channel service is $43 a month. What does the HD service and DVR add to that price? How much are the movie channels in HD?

In Va the HD box alone is $10., HD w/DVR is $13. Movie channels run between $13. - $16. depending on what you want.

Basic with HD/DVR and Internet costs me about $96. (w/o tax). Thats still less then Cox without the DVR, and my Internet speed more then doubled.

I just had Verizon installed this weekend, and I'm very happy with the installation and service. Only wish I had done it sooner. ;) . Its nice being able to compliment a cable provider on here for once. :rolleyes:

attgig
01-31-07, 11:09 AM
I'm trying to figure out QAM tunings to the unscrambled channels via comcast baltimore city. Does anyone have this list or know where i can find it?

I have CBS - 91-13
espn - 128-2
and espn2 - 128-1


anyone have a full listing?

tia


everything that i found after painstakingly flipping through a bunch of channels.
91-67 mpt hd
91-167 bbc
92-2 abc hd
92-11 nbc-hd
91-13 cbs-hd
124-07 nba tv
126-2 fox hd


Anyone get discoveryhd? tnthd? am i alone from baltimore using comcast?

riffjim4069
01-31-07, 11:45 AM
Full Article (http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/821532/prince_georges_county_maryland_consumers_gain_more_tv_choice _as/index.html?source=r_technology)

LAUREL, Md., Jan. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- An innovative, reliable and competitive alternative to cable TV is now available to consumers in more than 30 Prince George's County communities as Verizon expands its all-fiber FiOS TV offering in the region.

Verizon delivers FiOS TV over the nation's largest digital, all-fiber network. Only this network has earned the certification of the independent Fiber to the Home Council for providing fiber all the way to customers' homes.

FiOS TV now is available to nearly 56,000 households in parts of the following Prince George's County communities: Accokeek, Beltsville, Calverton, Camp Springs, Capitol Heights, Clinton, District Heights, East Riverdale, Fairland, Forestville, Fort Washington, Friendly, Glenn Dale, Goddard, Greenbelt, Hillandale, Kettering, Lake Arbor, Landover Hills, Lanham, Largo, Marlton, Maryland City, Mitchellville, New Carrollton, Oxon Hill, Rosaryville, Seat Pleasant, Walker Mill, Woodlawn and Woodmore.

ashutoshsm
01-31-07, 12:05 PM
Ohh, the spin machine in full blast ... 'innovative, reliable & competitive' !!!

Does it also cure cancer? :p

rosh400
01-31-07, 12:10 PM
I plugged my phone number into this website and for the first time, it indicates that FiOS TV is available to me. I live in Prince George's County just outside of the Laurel city limit. I don't know if I'm ready to ditch my DirecTV for it just yet, but it's interesting that the website says it's available here. I would have expected a phone call or a mailing from VZ to get my business, but maybe that will come soon.

I see the price for the basic 200 channel service is $43 a month. What does the HD service and DVR add to that price? How much are the movie channels in HD?


From the post's I've read, their mail and door to door efforts lag behind the availability database on their website so I am not surprised.

rosh400
01-31-07, 12:13 PM
Quick question for you Comcast subscribers out there.

Can comcast provide digital cable boxes with component outputs even though you don't subscribe to there HD service? The reason I'm asking is because I use an antenna and my QAM tuner to get HD channels, but watch regular cable through the cable box. The highest output it has is S-Video. Its decent, but will a box with component outputs look better?

Thanks!

In general, the rule of thumb is that component is better than S-Video but SD programming on an HDTV may be the exception. The higher quality feed offered by component may also be more revealing of the flaws of the SD feed. S-Video may do a better job at masking these flaws.

As far as the availability of non-HD boxes with component out, you should call Comcast directly.

kevinstu
01-31-07, 01:05 PM
Out of curiosity, are you watching on DirecTV also?

Mark

I am experiencing the audio dropouts on 5-1 as well, only during House, Conviction, and other national shows.

It's happened both on the HR10-250 and the HR20 receivers, both through OTA.

Sound drops out for 2-3 seconds (with no noticable video impact), and there is often slight video digital pixilation on its return.

CycloneGT
01-31-07, 01:15 PM
Ohh, the spin machine in full blast ... 'innovative, reliable & competitive' !!!

Does it also cure cancer? :pNo, but it might help with ED depending on which channels you subscribe too.

Riley9208
01-31-07, 01:56 PM
I am experiencing the audio dropouts on 5-1 as well, only during House, Conviction, and other national shows.

It's happened both on the HR10-250 and the HR20 receivers, both through OTA.

Sound drops out for 2-3 seconds (with no noticable video impact), and there is often slight video digital pixilation on its return.

This is a common problem with the HR10-250 software ver 6.3a. Keep forcing phone calls until your box updates to ver 6.3b, this cleared up all FOX audio drop outs for me so far. I can't explain the problem on your HR20 :confused:

dneily
01-31-07, 03:20 PM
Full Article (http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/821532/prince_georges_county_maryland_consumers_gain_more_tv_choice _as/index.html?source=r_technology)

LAUREL, Md., Jan. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- An innovative, reliable and competitive alternative to cable TV is now available to consumers in more than 30 Prince George's County communities as Verizon expands its all-fiber FiOS TV offering in the region.

Verizon delivers FiOS TV over the nation's largest digital, all-fiber network. Only this network has earned the certification of the independent Fiber to the Home Council for providing fiber all the way to customers' homes.

FiOS TV now is available to nearly 56,000 households in parts of the following Prince George's County communities: Accokeek, Beltsville, Calverton, Camp Springs, Capitol Heights, Clinton, District Heights, East Riverdale, Fairland, Forestville, Fort Washington, Friendly, Glenn Dale, Goddard, Greenbelt, Hillandale, Kettering, Lake Arbor, Landover Hills, Lanham, Largo, Marlton, Maryland City, Mitchellville, New Carrollton, Oxon Hill, Rosaryville, Seat Pleasant, Walker Mill, Woodlawn and Woodmore.

I had an Encore Verizon technician at my house today to install FIOS TV. Unfortunately, I discontinued my FIOS Internet service two weeks ago, and just learned that I must have FIOS Internet to use FIOS TV !! This is unlike COMCAST cable, which has a "cafeteria plan" by which you can select cable internet or TV or both. It makes me wonder what people do if they have no computer or no desire for internet.

So I have put in a new order to resume FIOS internet, which will take two days to "flip the switch." Then I'll need to request that a technician return to complete the FIOS TV installation.

tonyd79
01-31-07, 03:46 PM
This is a common problem with the HR10-250 software ver 6.3a. Keep forcing phone calls until your box updates to ver 6.3b, this cleared up all FOX audio drop outs for me so far. I can't explain the problem on your HR20 :confused:

The HR10 dropout was always 9 seconds. 9 seconds of silence, then a picture jitter and sound comes back. Software 6.3b does fix it.

Folks on dbstalk have reported some short dropouts on the HR20 on OTA. I have not seen one that I didn't think was signal related.

tonyd79
01-31-07, 03:50 PM
I plugged my phone number into this website and for the first time, it indicates that FiOS TV is available to me. I live in Prince George's County just outside of the Laurel city limit. I don't know if I'm ready to ditch my DirecTV for it just yet, but it's interesting that the website says it's available here. I would have expected a phone call or a mailing from VZ to get my business, but maybe that will come soon.

A friend in Bowie and another in Clarksville both said Verizon literally paper-bombed them for installation. However, my experience was quite different. I got one of those generic envelopes that kind of looks like it came from a messenger service like Fedex or UPS or the Post Office that just said it was to the resident at my address. I almost threw it away but decided to see who had spent all this money to be non-descript.

Turned out it had a nice letter and two sheets of information (printed on high quality glossy paper) including the channel lineup. It said Verizon Fios was now available to be installed at my address.

The website still says no.

BTW, my sister is being installed in Bethesda next week.

ashutoshsm
01-31-07, 05:20 PM
BTW, my sister is being installed in Bethesda next week.

Most people use the 'moved' verb or a conjugated variant thereof ... but whatever floats your boat!

post 5pm humor

CycloneGT
01-31-07, 05:58 PM
For Dish customers who don't read the other forums regularly. Dish has added A&E-HD today.

riffjim4069
01-31-07, 06:59 PM
Ohh, the spin machine in full blast ... 'innovative, reliable & competitive' !!!

Does it also cure cancer? :pNo, but it does solve the problems with HD-Little, HD-Lite...

riffjim4069
01-31-07, 07:17 PM
I had an Encore Verizon technician at my house today to install FIOS TV. Unfortunately, I discontinued my FIOS Internet service two weeks ago, and just learned that I must have FIOS Internet to use FIOS TV !! This is unlike COMCAST cable, which has a "cafeteria plan" by which you can select cable internet or TV or both. It makes me wonder what people do if they have no computer or no desire for internet.I wonder if Verizon will continue this practice...I hope not! Comcast (formerly Adelphia) recently announced there would be no increase for their 4Mb/384Kb HSI for cable customers in our area, however the price will be increased $17 (more than 39%) for those with Internet Only. Apparently they've decided to gouge the 95% of customers who cannot yet get FiOS, or have found better service with satellite, while they have the opportunity.

fmsjr
01-31-07, 07:40 PM
...I see the price for the basic 200 channel service is $43 a month. What does the HD service and DVR add to that price? How much are the movie channels in HD?
Unlike other providers, Verizon doesn't charge extra for HD... but of course the HD STB costs more than an SD box.

fmsjr
01-31-07, 07:43 PM
Anyone get discoveryhd? tnthd? am i alone from baltimore using comcast?
Discovery & TNT will almost always be encrypted. Once in a while they pop up in the clear on a scan, but don't last.

fmsjr
01-31-07, 07:48 PM
A friend in Bowie and another in Clarksville both said Verizon literally paper-bombed them for installation. However, my experience was quite different. I got one of those generic envelopes that kind of looks like it came from a messenger service like Fedex or UPS or the Post Office that just said it was to the resident at my address. I almost threw it away but decided to see who had spent all this money to be non-descript.

Turned out it had a nice letter and two sheets of information (printed on high quality glossy paper) including the channel lineup. It said Verizon Fios was now available to be installed at my address.

The website still says no.

BTW, my sister is being installed in Bethesda next week.
We got a doorknob hanging saying FiOS was available a week or two after our initial installation... a couple more weeks went by and we started getting the FedEx envelopes, for what seemed like a month. I was tempted to call and say stop sending them, and take the cost of the mailing off of my monthly bill!

carltonrice
01-31-07, 08:40 PM
Unlike other providers, Verizon doesn't charge extra for HD... but of course the HD STB costs more than an SD box.

My biggest question is that I understand that the VZ FiOS DVR can be hooked up to multiple TVs, so you can run up to 3 TVs off of one DVR in your home which is appealing. But does that mean you can power two HDTVs off of one box or only a single HDTV and the other sets must be SD.

Sun Ra
01-31-07, 09:14 PM
I don't have any problems with WBAL (that I have noticed). However I am curious what your antenna setup is? I have an 8-bay channel master on the roof and I can't really get any DC channels. I found this interesting since I could get Baltimore stations when I used to live in Alexandria.

http://www.pcalchemy.com/product_info.php/pName/terrestrial-digital-db4-multidirectional-hdtv-antenna/cName/hdtv-antennas

this guy... WBAL seems to be doing better for now...

SunRa

MapMaker18
01-31-07, 10:02 PM
Discovery & TNT will almost always be encrypted. Once in a while they pop up in the clear on a scan, but don't last.

I can get TNT-HD (98.2) in the clear, but don't get Discovery. I guess it all depends on your location and jurisdication. What other channels can people get in the clear in Howard County?

Marcus Carr
02-01-07, 12:35 AM
Comcast received a retransmission-consent extension to continue carrying Sinclair Broadcast Group TV stations until March 1, the end of the February sweep period.

The nation’s largest cable company, which is in the midst of negotiating a retransmission-consent deal with Sinclair, earlier this month sent out notices to subscribers in cities where it has out-of-market Sinclair stations that it might lose those signals as early as Feb. 5.

Under Federal Communications Commission rules, Comcast couldn’t drop Sinclair’s stations in February, one of the sweeps periods when viewership is used to set ad rates.

But Comcast subscribers who are considered out-of-market aren’t covered by the FCC prohibition, which is why the cable operator would have been able to drop Sinclair’s signals in those areas in February.

But now Sinclair granted Comcast an extension to continue carrying all of its stations -- in-market and out-of-market -- until March 1

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6412272.html?display=Breaking+News


Not sure if this affects HD for in-market stations.

GoIrish
02-01-07, 06:55 AM
http://multichannel.com/article/CA6412272.html?display=Breaking+News


Not sure if this affects HD for in-market stations.

I would expect it covers all Sinclair channels.

GoIrish

bmfc1
02-01-07, 08:00 AM
Nats President Stan Kasten participated in a "chat" yesterday at Nationals.com. Here's the bad news about HD on MASN for this upcoming season:

natsrgr8: How are things going at MASN? Will there be any high def broadcasts in the future? I've read that the studios for MASN are in Baltimore. Will there be a D.C. presence for MASN?

Kasten:MASN is a very new business and is growing right alongside the Nats. There almost certainly will be high def in the future, but not in 2007. And whether or not the studios wind up being located in one place or another, you can count on a real and growing D.C. presence on the broadcasts and through all of the other programming.

Deezul
02-01-07, 08:26 AM
Kasten:MASN is a very new business and is growing right alongside the Nats. There almost certainly will be high def in the future, but not in 2007. And whether or not the studios wind up being located in one place or another, you can count on a real and growing D.C. presence on the broadcasts and through all of the other programming.

Instead of hearing him hem and haw about whether they will or won't, it's nice to see him just come out and say, SORRY, not this year. Now, if for some miraculous reason they DO have some towards the end of the year, it's a bonus. I suspect they didn't want to even try since they can build a dedicted studio for HD at the new stadium.

Deez

zyvo23
02-01-07, 10:52 AM
http://multichannel.com/article/CA6412272.html?display=Breaking+News


Not sure if this affects HD for in-market stations.

So theoretically, it could fall through and we could get channel 5 (DC) back in Howard County? that would be...AWESOME!

ahsan
02-01-07, 10:57 AM
Comcast Loudoun just added a new channel in their HD range. Channel 776 is now showing Versus but the content that I saw last night (a Survivor rerun) was not in HD. I am not that familiar with this channel but assume it will be showing some content in HD since its in their HD lineup (770s).

markbulla
02-01-07, 11:28 AM
This is a common problem with the HR10-250 software ver 6.3a. Keep forcing phone calls until your box updates to ver 6.3b, this cleared up all FOX audio drop outs for me so far. I can't explain the problem on your HR20 :confused:

I just made a change in the audio data rate that might help this problem, but it's a good idea to update the software, too.

It turns out that FOX knows about the problem, and they gave me this audio data rate thing to try.

Mark

markbulla
02-01-07, 11:30 AM
So theoretically, it could fall through and we could get channel 5 (DC) back in Howard County? that would be...AWESOME!

Geez - that only makes me feel a little bad. I'm sure that it's not because of the quality of the signal that I give you - it's just that you like the Redskins.

Mark

afiggatt
02-01-07, 11:51 AM
Comcast Loudoun just added a new channel in their HD range. Channel 776 is now showing Versus but the content that I saw last night (a Survivor rerun) was not in HD. I am not that familiar with this channel but assume it will be showing some content in HD since its in their HD lineup (770s).
That would be the Versus / Golf HD channel which will have NHL games and PGA golf events (Thursday, Fridays IIRC) in HD. Comcast owns or is a part owner of both the Versus and Golf channels so they started up this HD hybrid of the two channels. There are discussions on this recent start-up channel in the HDTV programming forum.

If I follow this, this would be the first added HD channel to Comcast Loudoun? As opposed to replacing HDNet, HDNetM & INHD2 with 3 other HD channels. But they still have not added Comcast Sportsnet HD?

BTW, Verizon FiosTV in Loudoun yesterday added to the info description for every single channel that is getting moved a notice of the new channel number for that channel effective February 20, 2007. I assume the February 20 dates applies to the Washington Metro line-up while other areas are getting moved on February 27. If the mailer was correct (ignoring the typo they had on sheet for Comcast Sportsnet Philadelphia), we should be getting Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic HD on Feb. 20th or soon thereafter. The word is that that other national HD channels will be added to FiosTv this quarter, so we may see them added soon after the channel re-shuffle is done.

Marcus Carr
02-01-07, 12:07 PM
So theoretically, it could fall through and we could get channel 5 (DC) back in Howard County? that would be...AWESOME!

No chance of that here in Baltimore. No DC stations allowed.

Marcus Carr
02-01-07, 12:29 PM
That's the only one I'd recommend, too, and the only one I ever use.

It is Tribune Media Services' official listings site, and is where all my TiVos (including the S3 HD TiVo, keeping thi post on topic) get their guide info, and it rocks!

I just noticed that they have the MPT HD schedule at 220 instead of 200. They had the 22-1 and 22-2 schedules reversed for a long time.

ahsan
02-01-07, 03:31 PM
That would be the Versus / Golf HD channel which will have NHL games and PGA golf events (Thursday, Fridays IIRC) in HD. Comcast owns or is a part owner of both the Versus and Golf channels so they started up this HD hybrid of the two channels. There are discussions on this recent start-up channel in the HDTV programming forum.

If I follow this, this would be the first added HD channel to Comcast Loudoun? As opposed to replacing HDNet, HDNetM & INHD2 with 3 other HD channels. But they still have not added Comcast Sportsnet HD?


Yes I too am surprised that they chose to add some other channel before their own property Comcast Sports Net HD. What gives? I first thought it was a capacity issue but with the addition of this new channel, it seems that is not the case. Why would they withhold CSN-HD? I can't speak for all, but isn't basketball more popular than hockey across the US, and especially in DC? Give me some Wizards and college basketball in HD!

ashutoshsm
02-01-07, 05:09 PM
I thought Comcast DOES, in fact, own VS/Golf, or at least a stake in the channel?

i5hawn
02-01-07, 05:54 PM
hmm my qam tuner isn't picking up comcast hd, espn or espn2 hd. tells me i'm not authorized. maybe comcast figured out how to block those high channels?

SJKurtzke
02-01-07, 06:42 PM
We knew that WRC's decision to delay HD would come back to hurt us...

NBC has announced that NBC Nightly News will go HD in March
They expect to have HD remotes phased in in 2008

WRC (NBC 4) delays the Nightly News broadcast until 7PM, most affiliates air it at 6:30, so...
They would need to have some kind of HD tape-delay equipment, which most affiliates that don't have a strong HD push don't have.

biker19
02-01-07, 07:15 PM
My biggest question is that I understand that the VZ FiOS DVR can be hooked up to multiple TVs, so you can run up to 3 TVs off of one DVR in your home which is appealing. But does that mean you can power two HDTVs off of one box or only a single HDTV and the other sets must be SD.
Not multiple TVs but multiple SD STBs. You can connect whatever you want to the STBs. But as the STB name implies, for now, only SD material is available.

bullwinklehdtv
02-01-07, 07:56 PM
Instead of hearing him hem and haw about whether they will or won't, it's nice to see him just come out and say, SORRY, not this year. Now, if for some miraculous reason they DO have some towards the end of the year, it's a bonus. I suspect they didn't want to even try since they can build a dedicted studio for HD at the new stadium.

Deez

Considering ESPN has broadcast Nats games in high definition from RFK, I don't think that's the problem - I don't think they have any cable or satellite providers who will carry MASN HD.

GoIrish
02-01-07, 08:09 PM
Considering ESPN has broadcast Nats games in high definition from RFK, I don't think that's the problem - I don't think they have any cable or satellite providers who will carry MASN HD.

I don't think that's the case. I believe it's more an economic decision on the part of MASN, not local interest.

GoIrish

Deezul
02-01-07, 08:44 PM
Considering ESPN has broadcast Nats games in high definition from RFK, I don't think that's the problem - I don't think they have any cable or satellite providers who will carry MASN HD.

I think D* would jump and providing it if it were available in HD. Once the started rolling out their MPEG4 receivers, they started putting up the HD feeds of the regional sports networks.

Deezul

fmsjr
02-01-07, 10:12 PM
http://multichannel.com/article/CA6412272.html?display=Breaking+News


Not sure if this affects HD for in-market stations.
We got a postcard from Comcast today, saying that if an agreement isn't reached by Monday, Anne Arundel will lose the HD feeds for WBFF FOX-HD and WNUV CW-HD (channels 213 & 214.) And if no agreement by 3/1, at that time we'll lose the SD channels (5 & 14.) But we'll continue to get WTTG on 75 and WTTG-HD on 255.

MapMaker18
02-01-07, 11:10 PM
We got a postcard from Comcast today, saying that if an agreement isn't reached by Monday, Anne Arundel will lose the HD feeds for WBFF FOX-HD and WNUV CW-HD (channels 213 & 214.) And if no agreement by 3/1, at that time we'll lose the SD channels (5 & 14.) But we'll continue to get WTTG on 75 and WTTG-HD on 255.

We got the same postcard for Howard County yesterday. We'll just see what happens...

mikemikeb
02-01-07, 11:54 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-comcast0201,0,4329838.story?coll=bal-home-headlines

The Sun clarifies that the Comcast-Sinclair extention applies to both SD and HD retransmissions.

mikemikeb
02-02-07, 01:40 AM
WRC (NBC 4) delays the Nightly News broadcast until 7PM, most affiliates air it at 6:30, so...
They would need to have some kind of HD tape-delay equipment, which most affiliates that don't have a strong HD push don't have.
To be frank, I don't know why Nightly News will be going HD so soon. I can understand March of '08, complete with HD field cams, but not this. With the current cost of HD equipment, and semi-lack of HD hookups, there's not much financial gain to be had by doing this now, if any, especially with NBC's ratings lead that has no end in sight.

So, don't be surprised if Nightly News stays SD in DC. BUT -- since WRC is owned by NBC, who knows if they'll pay for the tape-delay equipment? Maybe orders will come to trim the 6 PM news to 6:30 and do a 7 PM newscast to make up for it. But again, how will this benefit HD viewers over SD viewers, and vice versa? Will top brass care either way?

attgig
02-02-07, 12:03 PM
hmm my qam tuner isn't picking up comcast hd, espn or espn2 hd. tells me i'm not authorized. maybe comcast figured out how to block those high channels?

Yeah, just got scrambled yesterday :-(

jcorwin
02-02-07, 09:09 PM
To be frank, I don't know why Nightly News will be going HD so soon. I can understand March of '08, complete with HD field cams, but not this. With the current cost of HD equipment, and semi-lack of HD hookups, there's not much financial gain to be had by doing this now, if any, especially with NBC's ratings lead that has no end in sight.

So, don't be surprised if Nightly News stays SD in DC. BUT -- since WRC is owned by NBC, who knows if they'll pay for the tape-delay equipment? Maybe orders will come to trim the 6 PM news to 6:30 and do a 7 PM newscast to make up for it. But again, how will this benefit HD viewers over SD viewers, and vice versa? Will top brass care either way?


It's not a tape delay at 7:00 by the local station. The network does 2 feeds of the show, at 6:30 and 7. Unless there's something to update, the 7:00 feed is usually a tape, but it's from the network.

JoeInNVa
02-02-07, 10:17 PM
Golf/VS HD is on channel 254 of Comcast Alexandria/Arlington

i5hawn
02-03-07, 08:10 AM
Yeah, just got scrambled yesterday :-(

looks like its time to get the hd cablecard for me

MapMaker18
02-03-07, 11:44 AM
looks like its time to get the hd cablecard for me

what area are u in? i'm still able to get a lot of channels through QAM.

Red Dog
02-03-07, 12:06 PM
Golf/VS HD is on channel 254 of Comcast Alexandria/Arlington


Yeah, that was a surprise. Does it actually air anything in HD? I suppose hockey games at night?

mdviewer25
02-03-07, 03:51 PM
Why isn't North Carolina vs. NC State in HD on WMAR or WJLA?

JoeInNVa
02-03-07, 05:39 PM
Yeah, that was a surprise. Does it actually air anything in HD? I suppose hockey games at night?

It had golf last night when I noticed it. There will also be the VS Games of the week in HD. Normally Monday or Tuesday or both.

JoeInNVa
02-03-07, 05:52 PM
Why isn't North Carolina vs. NC State in HD on WMAR or WJLA?

Not sure, was it supposed to be? Not a lot of ABC College games are in HD.

rustycruiser
02-03-07, 08:26 PM
Hank Volpe
Director of Engineering
WBAL-TV/WBAL-DT /WBAL-AM/WIYY-FM/HD
Baltimore MD

Hank,
Welcome to the thread.

With that said, can you please stop stretching SD content on WBAL-DT? It really stinks. Also, is there a timeline for WBAL switching to 5.1 sound?
Thanks

Ross

rustycruiser
02-04-07, 01:06 AM
Yeah, just got scrambled yesterday :-(

Took them long enough. I have been enjoying ESPNHD and ESPN2HD through QAM for over two months. I have two 6412s downstairs, it was just nice to have them available in my bedroom.

Oh well

guadalupegrande4
02-04-07, 04:23 AM
I know I've posted this question before but I want to get a fresh answer:

What website do you use to know what HD content is available on TV? I use: http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/28/hdtv-listing-for-january-28-2007/


Like MrMike6by9, I use TitanTV.
I had actually been using tv.yahoo.com until they upgraded their site and required cookies/logins (and I had previously used tvguide.com until they did the same).

Not that they separated HD listings, and I was looking more for specific shows rather than if it was in HD or not.

I specifically like TitanTV because, unlike all the rest, it doesn't ask for cable or service provider, it seems to just do OTA (which is all I have).
Plus, it color codes each show, and easily shows wether a show is HD or not (and includes an option to ONLY show HD). What more could you want?

guadalupegrande4
02-04-07, 04:31 AM
Hank,
Welcome to the thread.

With that said, can you please stop stretching SD content on WBAL-DT? It really stinks. Also, is there a timeline for WBAL switching to 5.1 sound?
Thanks

Ross

I concur.

(Hi Hank).


As for the stretch-o-vision, it irks me enough that I will avidly avoid WBAL unless its an HD show now. I'll even avoid commercials because often they'll be stretched out of proportion too.
Its odd watchign a weight loss commercial stretched out. You think "Gee, she sure doesn't LOOK like she lost weight!" :)

Thanks again though for the info about the PSIP software and hardware hiccups.

MrMike6by9
02-04-07, 10:04 AM
Like MrMike6by9, I use TitanTV.
I had actually been using tv.yahoo.com until they upgraded their site and required cookies/logins (and I had previously used tvguide.com until they did the same).

Not that they separated HD listings, and I was looking more for specific shows rather than if it was in HD or not.

I specifically like TitanTV because, unlike all the rest, it doesn't ask for cable or service provider, it seems to just do OTA (which is all I have).
Plus, it color codes each show, and easily shows wether a show is HD or not (and includes an option to ONLY show HD). What more could you want?Correction
When you set up your account on TitanTV, you can specify your cable provider, DBS provider, and OTA. I had it set up for all 3, a page tab for each, until I dropped D*. I've also seen, but haven't used, the shortcut to only show the upcoming HD fare.

YMMV

mnestheus
02-04-07, 03:36 PM
Two questions here:

1. Has anyone figured out how to view FiOS TV on their PC? I ask because with my ATI video card, I have been able to use the PVR function with cableTV to my satifaction. I'm not looking for anything too fancy, just watch and record FiOS TV on my PC in addition to in the livingroom (using VZ's DVR). While VZ's FiOS installation in my building (one of the first large MDUs in Arlington (Clarendon) to get it) stumbles toward completion, I'm wondering how I might get TV service in my bedroom without having to use yet another, space-wasting box.

I know that ATI also makes a standalone interface for digital cable: http://ati.amd.com/products/tvwonderdigital/index.html. My preference is for the video card to be able to do this...

2. Are their any others in large condo/apartment complexes who are getting FiOS installed? If so, how has the install gone? I'm going to be firing off a letter to VZ about how sloppily things have gone here. The main beef that many in this area seem to have is that ComCast offers poor service. From what I've seen with VZ in this FiOS fiasco, switching with the expectation of better service from them would be a huge mistake!

Thanks in advance for any input here!

pennstatefan
02-04-07, 04:35 PM
Is the broadcast of Veronica Mars on 54-1 WNUV supposed to be in HD today? My Dish 622 PVR box appears to be showing it with Grey bars on the sides. Picture looks good, just not in widescreen format. Since the original broadcast was bumped for a basketball game, it re-scheduled the recording for today.

nelsona
02-04-07, 04:39 PM
Is anyone else having problems with CBS's OTA HD? Normally I have a rock solid signal in the 90's, but today its all over the place with the picture cutting in and out.

Ad-Rok
02-04-07, 06:12 PM
Is anyone else having problems with CBS's OTA HD? Normally I have a rock solid signal in the 90's, but today its all over the place with the picture cutting in and out.

Yes, I am actually, and it's frustrating as heck! I want my superbowl!

Question: does anyone know what channel WUSA-9 (HD) is on Comcast digital cable rebroadcast? I need an alternate for the OTA broadcast, and it's not coming through on physical channel 9-1.

Using the MyHD MDP-130. Help appreciated!

Thanks much,
Adam

afiggatt
02-04-07, 06:33 PM
Is anyone else having problems with CBS's OTA HD? Normally I have a rock solid signal in the 90's, but today its all over the place with the picture cutting in and out.
Which CBS station? WUSA-DT 9 or WJZ-DT 13? I checked the OTA signal for WUSA 9 and oddly enough, the signal is a bit weaker than normal from Sterling, but steady. WJZ-DT 13 signal strength looks normal signal strength.

bigtyme
02-04-07, 06:41 PM
Yes, I am actually, and it's frustrating as heck! I want my superbowl!

Question: does anyone know what channel WUSA-9 (HD) is on Comcast digital cable rebroadcast? I need an alternate for the OTA broadcast, and it's not coming through on physical channel 9-1.

Using the MyHD MDP-130. Help appreciated!

Thanks much,
Adam

i think channel 212 might be what your looking for

Onazuka
02-04-07, 08:11 PM
Is anyone else having problems with CBS's OTA HD? Normally I have a rock solid signal in the 90's, but today its all over the place with the picture cutting in and out.

I'm normally in the 90s but I can't watch the super bowl because it's so bad. I had the same problem last weekend with 9-1 too.

wkearney99
02-04-07, 08:33 PM
Apparently the way MCE2005 gets guide data won't let it show listings for local OTA ATSC subchannels. Things like WETA-2 through -4 don't have any guide listing data. Supposedly it's a throwback to the days when there wasn't ATSC data, regardless, it's not there now and I'd like to find a way to get it.

Anyone out there in the DC area have MCE setup for OTA digital channels and have a way to get WETA guide data loaded for it?

bornyank1
02-04-07, 08:33 PM
I wasn't able to get anything except channels 26 and 50 before with the Silver Sensor. I tried several times. Now tonight I tried, on the off chance that my luck changed, and it did. I'm watching the Superbowl on WJZ-DT 13 in perfect 1080i. Did they boost the signal strength for the game or something?

nelsona
02-04-07, 09:19 PM
Which CBS station? WUSA-DT 9 or WJZ-DT 13? I checked the OTA signal for WUSA 9 and oddly enough, the signal is a bit weaker than normal from Sterling, but steady. WJZ-DT 13 signal strength looks normal signal strength.

WUSA-DT 9. Whatever the problem was, it was fixed before the game, as it has been a rock solid signal the whole game. Thought my superbowl party was gonna be a bust there for a while.