Here's a few screen shots from Saturday. Sorry for the delay. Work has been hell and we're getting ready for the American Cancer Society Relay for Life this weekend (see my signature).

These are from Happy Feet. I'm prettu sure it was the Toshiba to the Blendzilla, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Ben, tell me if your shots were worse than mine. ;)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5646/img0518tb4.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5263/img0519ud4.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8635/img0522ed5.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6769/img0526lf1.jpg


Wow, it's hard to believe the difference from Saturday to Sundays later showing. Just kidding. I remember these scenes, but looking much better. And things were much better on Sunday.


These are the ones we took later Sunday evening:
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1528/hpim1814ri4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2558/hpim1816hb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/220/hpim1817od3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2492/hpim1819ag5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Tonight I am going to insert the SV2 modded Vim 003 and neck boards in my 9500LC ultra and fire it up. Ken is here to set the gray scale. Unfortunately all I have is my VP50 and its ringing scaler to feed it fed by DVD 480i SDI or NR from my HD sat DVR. I'll take home a blu ray to use The MP5 transcoder will go in there too. In a week or two I should have my beta Radiance. Because of the NDA I won't be able to post much about it. Also until I get a hdmi to RGBHV converter I won't even be able to use it. I figured back in Sept at Cedia, that Moome would have a new card in my hands by now. Still waiting. But I am sure they will be shipping by August. Probably earlier. I really think end of June. I'll have to plug the Radiance into a plasma. At least it is phosphor based. I don't use game boxes or computers to feed my HT.

Because of the NDA I won't be able to post much about it

It's a good thing I'm not a betting man..

I am not allowed to disclose anything not already disclosed or disclosed in the future.

I don't get this test material you guys use--bugs, penguins, large gorillas, the insides of fake submarines.

The true test should be HD porn. Dark bed rooms. Now we are talking gamma correction to enhance shadow detail. Something that counts.

Let's see. One is watching a bug movie where a large bug is ready to eat a brave soldier out of bug amo. Hey Honey, did you see that nit sitting on a nat on the dark speck on the black spot on the bottom of the large bug. No? I'll run it back in case you missed it. Honey. Please, don't leave. I was only kidding.

Or.

Honey. Yea Yea, You're the best. God! That's great. Honey. Stop for a second, will ya? Take a breath. Did you see that scene just a second ago? No? I'll run it back again. Yea, Did you see what he/she just did with . . . . .? WOW. Yea. It turns me on too. You turn me on. You're the best. I love you. Can we try that? Yea. That's it. Oh my! Yes.!

You guys gotta set your priorities straight.

Lol!

Mark......best post I've read in a looooooooog time.

Terry

The Crystalio wasn't sick, it's flawed with the wrong colorspace for HD.




I believe someone was having this same trouble with the Crystalio & a JVC RS 1 on the digital forums.From the digital forums it was brought up at the company that makes the Crystalio & they found the problem & will release a firmware update to fix it.

Quote:
Tom came back and we sorted out the problem. There is a color decoding issue in the Crystalio when it is fed YCrCb 4:4:4. Regardless of whether the output is RGB or YCrCb to the RS1....we saw the gross elevation(<35%) in the luminance of green. If the Crystalio is fed RGB everything is fine. I posted the following on the PixelMagic forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Wong, PixelMagic Moderator:

After investigation of the case, we found that current Crystalio II firmware will incorrectly detected a HD YCbCr4:4:4 source as ITU601 format instead of ITU709 format.

We will release a firmware bug fix a.s.a.p.
__________________
Pixel Magic Support Team



Hopefully this will fix the problem you guys were having at the meet, if you use the same unit again in the future.Of course, if that is in fact the same problem you guys were having.

My beast lives! My theater is dark no more. Well it's dark, but now there is meaningful light on the screen. It's been three weeks. Later tonight I'll watch it and report. I'm so happy. Who said man could never fly. Hell, I might even switch to the nature channel and watch some bugs and spiders.

Here's a few screen shots from Saturday. Sorry for the delay. Work has been hell and we're getting ready for the American Cancer Society Relay for Life this weekend (see my signature).

These are from Happy Feet. I'm prettu sure it was the Toshiba to the Blendzilla, but someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Ben, tell me if your shots were worse than mine. ;)

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5646/img0518tb4.jpg

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5263/img0519ud4.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8635/img0522ed5.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/6769/img0526lf1.jpg

I'm still somewhat recovering from this event, which was very exhausting to say the least. Now that I'm a bit more rested, I'd like to address a few things I had planned to get back to. Of all the things that went on there and may have went wrong, I find the posting of these blurred images to be the most bothersome to me. I can't in my wildest imagination find myself taking screenshots at an event like this and posting them in less of an manor than they were displayed. Was this meant as a joke? If so, I'm having a very hard time laughing, especially since all that went into making this event a good one. And the many of the things that went wrong, were a combination of various mistakes, that had nothing to do with one person or any group of people. I'm sorry, this is just too hard to take for whatever reason.

Since these images were posted to represent what was shown on both screens, I'll clear that up here by posting that both screens were verified to show scan lines on a white sheet of paper. And the scan lines were visible at 1050P @ 72hz. Also, both projectors had their contrast set at 100 (maxed). Which was done by me for flapping and still used for focusing, but not known by Gino when he took over focusing that the contrast was set at 100. And this is what amazed Gino. To be able to maxed out the focus on any CRT projector, and get fine and tight lines is not something that's common any CRT.

We had two 9" CRT projectors that was verified to produce scan lines at 1050P @ 72hz - which is 78kh / 72hv. And the same person that verified this, also said to me, that they had never seen Marquees that sharp... now, how could these projectors produce such images..:confused:

The problems we were having were source related only. And though the sources had problems. Nothing about the sources produced blurred images. So I would have a better appreciation for this attempt or effort, if the screenshots were trying to convey the problems we were seeing. But since nothing about these screenshoots reflect any of the problems experienced...

The thing I was most impressed here was the ability to focus with contrast at 100. This really made things sharp edge to edge

And if screenshots were to be posted. It would only be fair to post them taking after we got to a better place with the setup. Though both projectors were still verified to show scan lines at 1050P @ 72hz before both Gino and I worked on flapping. Which only corrects focus on the edges.

So what was the point with these images?

Ben, tell me if your shots were worse than mine

I'm still somewhat recovering from this event, which was very exhausting to say the least. Now that I'm a bit more rested, I'd like to address a few things I had planned to get back to. Of all the things that went on there and may have went wrong, I find the posting of these blurred images to be the most bothersome to me. I can't in my wildest imagination find myself taking screenshots at an event like this and posting them in less of an manor than they were displayed. Was this meant as a joke? If so, I'm having a very hard time laughing, especially since all that went into making this event a good one. And the many of the things that went wrong, were a combination of various mistakes, that had nothing to do with one person or any group of people. I'm sorry, this is just too hard to take for whatever reason.

Since these images were posted to represent what was shown on both screens, I'll clear that up here by posting that both screens were verified to show scan lines on a white sheet of paper. And the scan lines were visible at 1050P @ 72hz. Also, both projectors had their contrast set at 100 (maxed). Which was done by me for flapping and still used for focusing, but not known by Gino when he took over focusing that the contrast was set at 100. And this is what amazed Gino. To be able to maxed out the focus on any CRT projector, and get fine and tight lines is not something that's common any CRT.

We had two 9" CRT projectors that was verified to produce scan lines at 1050P @ 72hz - which is 78kh / 72hv. And the same person that verified this, also said to me, that they had never seen Marquees that sharp... now, how could these projectors produce such images..:confused:

The problems we were having were source related only. And though the sources had problems. Nothing about the sources produced blurred images. So I would have a better appreciation for this attempt or effort, if the screenshots were trying to convey the problems we were seeing. But since nothing about these screenshoots reflect any of the problems experienced...



And if screenshots were to be posted. It would only be fair to post them taking after we got to a better place with the setup. Though both projectors were still verified to show scan lines at 1050P @ 72hz before both Gino and I worked on flapping. Which only corrects focus on the edges.

So what was the point with these images?

Slow down there kipper! :)

I don't think in any way it was meant as a joke and yes, the first thing I did on Saturday and on Sunday was grab a piece of paper, put it up against the screen and low and behold at 1050P 72hz:

BIG ASS SCANLINES.

Very nice job Mike! :D

Cliffy

Screen shots taken with a $100 camera by an amateur photographer displayed on a LCD computer laptop monitor. Yes Sir. No sense attending a meet. You can see it all in the screen shots. WTF are you guys babbling about.? Its screen shots! We are talking screen shots.!All most screen shots do is take up thread bandwidth. Scree nshots! Now we are arguing about blurry screen shots.

Well MP, that's why I didn't post mine, because they were far from optimal.

However, I wouldn't upset yourself over the posted shots, because I think just about anybody can tell that they don't represent (well) the image that was on the screen - just the amount of noise contained in those shots would obscure fine detail even if the camera was sharply focused. I really don't think that people will look at those images and say "Wow, so two blended 9500LC's look that bad, huh?"

Bill - my images have about the same focus, but are free from the noise that yours have (just a function of the DSLR's larger sensor and better sensitivity). But still not representative of what I was seeing, and that was on Saturday, and I understand that it was much more finely tuned on Sunday.

Ben

How can you screw up a screen shot?


Basically, with a digital camera there are a bunch of user variables beyond the resolution of the digital image and the quality of the lens.

You can screw up the white balance. That is really easy and will change the colors big time.

Now to take the correct exposure you can vary ISO, apeture and shutter speed. The ISO adjusts how much light is needed by the sensor to get the correct exposure, and then the apeture adjusts how wide the lens is set at and the shutter how long the shutter is open.

Now every image needs the proper amount of light for a correct exposure. Usually a battle of trade offs to a good photographer. You can switch to a high ISO setting. Bingo, you can use a high shutter speed to stop the blur and a relatively cheep lense of high f stop but you will introduce digital noise into the image. High ISO means you will be pushing the amplifier circuits in your camera and they will become noisy.

You can stop down your lens (high F stop number, e.g., small apeture) and then to get a proper exposure your shutter will have to remain open and the image will look blurry if there is action in the image, ta da.

Finally, ypu can use a reasonable ISO, set a high shutter spead to stop the action, and then hopefully have a big enough lens to gather in the necessary light.

This is not a course, just an illustration of how one could obtain a correct exposure that didn't represent what the viewer saw on the screen.

Forgive me if I don't post any screen shots of my projector working. : Also there is no case right now, its in the nude. Rather ugly.

The beast is functioning with the latest MP mods. Really scary you can crank the contrast to 100 without any blooming. Resolves 1080p, sharp.

MP is coming over later this week to fine tune the dots with his artist hand on the magnets and the remote (astig adjustments). The red became a little off for some reason and rounding could be somewhat improved all around. Scary to turn the contrast up to 100 and the focus to complete defocus and then adjust those fuzzy bright shapes. Rather easy but I do not want to touch the magnets my self.





I did manage to improve white field uniformity a bit by doing a RGB electronic focus. Thinking about it, a small amount od differentation on the blue across the screen could lead to non white field uniformity. My blue was a little out of focus on the left and fixing it help. Thanks to Ken W for the suggestion. Ken touched up the colors

My Radiance is coming and I might actually be able to use it if Moome actually starts shipping his new card. Oh well. I can hook the Radiance up to my plasma, ugh.

After Ken's calibration, he got 7 plus foot lamberts of my 110" D 1.78 Studeotech. That's with the contrast set to 54! Black at 78. My tubes have several thousand hours on them and the green and red are filtered. Plenty bright for sports but for last night basketball game I cranked it up to 58 and turned the black up a bit to bring up crowd detail.

After Ken's calibration, he got 7 plus foot lamberts of my 110" D 1.78 Studeotech. That's with the contrast set to 54! Black at 78....

......and turned the black up a bit to bring up crowd detail.

:confused:

The black settings in your VP50 must be off for a brightness setting of 78 or more on that Marquee. Unless the VP50 works much different from any of the sources that I run on my lowly 8" Marquee. If you have the MP-5 in the loop, then you could end up with a slightly higher brightness setting, because of how it transcodes the component signal.


Below are a few shots I've taking from my 8" Marquee (1920x1080P /60hz - Xbox 360)

Contrast at 60, brightness (black) on the Marquee set at 50.

Look very close at the lighted areas in the backgrounds. It is equalized through-out the image, because you'll want both good contrast without clipping to include perfect light in darker areas of the background scenes. Though there are three different dark background images, the contrast and brightness settings were not changed for any of them. This is the 0 to 100IRE window I was talking about at the meet. Once that reference window is set with both contrast and brightness set at 50. The green G2 should not be moved (and there should be very little change with final brightness setting). Everything else around it can be adjusted, but don't touch the green G2. It would be your reference, and it should be setup using the internal step pattern.

With the mods, it's more important to use this reference, because the projector can go up a bit in gain setting without clipping (higher contrast). So proper reference is important for best dynamics and image punch within the IRE window.

The internal step pattern helps in setting up the video gain structure of the Marquee. And for the absolute best video gain structure setup overall, the processors (VP50) black level should be set using a scope. And that's why you have that pot on your VIM. It's there to help if the incoming pedestal is off a bit (and cannot be corrected with a black level control on the source).

For the absolute best in low end performance. The video chain gain structure should be setup using proper pedestal level setup from source to projector, to include proper step pattern setup in the projector. This produces the best path for a 0 to 100IRE window:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7860/hpim1544tk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2638/hpim1545fr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/599/hpim1546kj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Are you talking to me? Ken? Or the public in general? I didn't set the contrast and brightness. Ken did. I doubt he touched the control on the VIM. I'll check the G2 green number. OK it's 65.

It will be interesting when you come over.

Of all the things that went on there and may have went wrong, I find the posting of these blurred images to be the most bothersome to me. I can't in my wildest imagination find myself taking screenshots at an event like this and posting them in less of an manor than they were displayed. Was this meant as a joke? If so, I'm having a very hard time laughing, especially since all that went into making this event a good one. And the many of the things that went wrong, were a combination of various mistakes, that had nothing to do with one person or any group of people. I'm sorry, this is just too hard to take for whatever reason.

Wow. Nope, wasn't a joke. I was only trying to give people a sense of what was happening over the weekend. I just assumed that people would know that my crappy little pictures wouldn't be indicative of what was actually on display at the meet. If the pictures are that disturbing to you I'd be glad to delete them. Let me know.

I enjoyed myself immensely. Tried to help out where I could. Got to meet some fine people and see some real talent at work.

http://i7.tinypic.com/3038oq9.jpg



Love that picture. Nice shot!

where can I find other events such as this?

Here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=844261

Happy Cinco De Mayo, William!

Today's the one-year Anniversary for your Blendzilla Meet.

http://crtforum.com/img/blendzilla-hddvd1.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/blendzilla-hddvd2.jpg

Brings back good memories :)

Man I wish I could have made that, I can't believe a year has already passed.

How about a reunion in Australia =8^)

yep. when you look at all the folks that where there over the course of 4-5 days, there was a LOT of horsepower! It was a great way for me to get to meet a lot of people in a short time frame.

"The good ol' times are then and now".

wallace