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We can't let Cliffy have all the fun, so we are taking the fun to Middleburg Virginia and the dates have changed to May 5 and 6, the first weekend in May; this is a bit early to announce but those contemplating travel in that time frame may want to plan for this. Expect a large room with a twelve foot screen width, two Supercharged MP 9500 Marquees, and stunning HDTV type sources. I can't wait!


Some of you guys know Gary Fritz huh? Gary visited in December and just for reference, he is 6'4".........


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The centerpiece of this system is the very powerful DVX Processor from Analog France, and we thank the nice Analog folks for the loan of their edge blend processor which we have nicknamed BlendZilla!

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The DVX will input and switch up to eight various signals and sources and output to a pair of projectors which overlap, the halves of the images fade into each other for one huge seamless display; CRTs can now look fantastic on screens to twelve or thirteen foot width.

See this exceptionally powerful system for yourself; see what LC CRT contrast ratio coupled with near 500 ANSI lumens can do, the most involving and compelling viewing experience possible. Your personal IMAX......


Exact times and directions will follow; Middleburg is quite near Dulles airport.

I'm really hoping to make it there for this one. Will be great to finally meet some of you

SWEET. One thing though Tim, post some real screen shots! :p :D ;)

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I'm really hoping I can make this as well.........

Cliffy

I'm in on this one too. I mean I'm really in on this one, and we're hoping to get some others to help out as well (Clarence, JBJR, etc).

This should be another great function for us CRT folk. So though many won't be able to make this event, we should have screen-shots for all. We'll going to strip down the two 9500's and remove every speck of glue and residue from its magnetics, to include a complete rewiring and routing of the internal cabling. These two projectors will be running special boards that are a little different, so the mini RGB cables will be re-routed away from the neck boards. And will enter the VIM from near the mounting plate. This special mod that we'll be using is very touchy, and would require quite a few changes to make them perform well. We're also having all cables and connectors custom made to the length needed. And we're not only going to be showing screen-shots of the images, we plan to show shots of as much as we can on the entire install and setup. And the insides of the projectors.

We're planning to show HDTV in full bloom on these two super beefed up 9500LC's.

I've been working on this project for awhile now, and the following is a shot from my 8500 using something special, that will also be used at this affair. I still have some work do on it, because there's wide vertical bars in the image that are not showing up in the screen-shot. But will be gone by the time of this event.

Marquee 8500 Ultra (HD-145 lens) / Xbox 360 - HD-DVD Troy / 1920x1080P @ 60hz
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I've heard really good things about your work lately Mike. Looking foward to the hot rodded Marquees....... :^)

Cliff

Looking foward to the hot rodded Marquees....... :^)

Cliff

I'm really looking forward to this, and to be able to meet some of you guys that are not local would make this a blast of an event.

I'm planning to have three of them there. Two for the blending, and a spare of course. But the spare I want to also have pointed at the screen. Hopefully someone will show up with a bulb product..:)




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The spare is really the door prize, right Mike? ;)

I know, wishful thinking. . . Might be a good time to go see the in-laws in DC.

Expect a large room with a twelve foot screen widthTim, do we know what screen surface will be used?

Say Clarence

Something near 1.0 gain works best, Stewart did not have 1.0 in their loaner pool so our host is considering the SMX woven material that Cliff so likes.

Guys;

2 screen designs are under consideration at this point in time. The width in either case will be 12 feet. The aspect ratio will probably be either 1.92:1 (Tim's recommendation) or 2.40:1 (Gino's recommendation). The material will almost certainly be Reuban's SmX. Currently the 3 front speakers and 2 front subwoofers are behind an electric Stewart Videomatte (gain = 1.5), 10 foot wide 1.78:1 perforated screen.

There is lots of room, to park, to mingle in the media room, and to view the awesome images that are going to be displayed at this meet. Any and all are welcome: NEC projector owners, AMPRO projector owners, even Sony G90 owners. Hell, we'll also let digital projector owners in to see what they are missing.

Beer and munchies will be provided. The meet will be held on both Saturday, May 5, and Sunday, May 6, to make it as easy as possible for people coming from long distances to make it.

In the near future, I will post a listing of nearby bed and breakfasts, with contact info and pricing, for the out-of-towners.

Soon I will start a list of potential attendees. Each will be provided with driving directions.

There will be door prizes. Already lined up are movie posters. More to come on this topic.

Those who make the effort to come will be rewarded with viewing pleasure of one of the highest quality images on the entire third rock from the Sun.

The Mythical Host
William

Guys;

2 screen designs are under consideration at this point in time. The width in either case will be 12 feet. The aspect ratio will probably be either 1.92:1 (Tim's recommendation) or 2.40:1 (Gino's recommendation). The material will almost certainly be Reuban's SmX. Currently the 3 front speakers and 2 front subwoofers are behind an electric Stewart Videomatte (gain = 1.5), 10 foot wide 1.78:1 perforated screen.

There is lots of room, to park, to mingle in the media room, and to view the awesome images that are going to be displayed at this meet. Any and all are welcome: NEC projector owners, AMPRO projector owners, even Sony G90 owners. Hell, we'll also let digital projector owners in to see what they are missing.

Beer and munchies will be provided. The meet will be held on both Saturday, May 12, and Sunday, May 13 (Mother's Day), to make it as easy as possible for people coming from long distances to make it.

In the near future, I will post a listing of nearby bed and breakfasts, with contact info and pricing, for the out-of-towners.

Soon I will start a list of potential attendees. Each will be provided with driving directions.

There will be door prizes. Already lined up are movie posters. More to come on this topic.

Those who make the effort to come will be rewarded with viewing pleasure of one of the highest quality images on the entire third rock from the Sun.

The Mythical Host
William

Great William. I really hope I can make this. I didn't realize that Mother's day was that weekend. That may hamper the plans.

Can I recommend that you do a 2.35 or 2.40 setup? You will get A LOT more phosphor usage and light output from the projectors. Clarence I'm sure will concur with this after our experience.

Cliff

Wow!

I'm really looking forward to this. I want to see what I can aspire to in my theater even if I never go to a stack or a blend.

We have our Relay for Life event that weekend, but should be done midday Saturday. I'd love to help with drinks, munchies and other necessities.

Can I recommend that you do a 2.35 or 2.40 setup? You will get A LOT more phosphor usage and light output from the projectors. Clarence I'm sure will concur with this after our experience.

I've been trying to convince William to go with the 2.4 setup... obviously a big wow factor but I also think that this aspect shows off all the benefits of blending. It will also show something different to your G90 blendzilla meet.

I've been trying to convince William to go with the 2.4 setup... obviously a big wow factor but I also think that this aspect shows off all the benefits of blending. It will also show something different to your G90 blendzilla meet.

Yep. Not only that, but more phosphor usage= MORE LIGHT. :D

Cliffy

Yes.. well that's what I meant Cliff... this aspect shows off all the benefits of blending this includes the big increase in phosphor when watching cinemascope 2.35:1 and less overlap so sharper etc....

William - What is the room like? Will you be able to get it completely light controlled like Cliff's?

Yes.. well that's what I meant Cliff... this includes the big increase in phosphor when watching cinemascope 2.35:1 and less overlap so sharper etc....

Don't mind me Gino, severe cold just kicked in so my mind isn't all there.......

Cliff

Gino;

I understand the "more phosphor usage = more light" advantage of 2.40:1. There are 2 issues with this aspect ratio:

1) If using a scalar: introduces noise into the video chain
2) If not using a scalar, loss of image at top/bottom, when viewing ATSC material. My viewing is roughly 50% movies at 2.40:1 and 50% sports at 1.78:1

Cliffy;

I sent you a PM on Curt's web site a while ago. Would you please read it and respond?

What aspect ratio screen did you use at the Midwest Blendzilla meet?

All;

The screen aspect ratio design decision has not yet been made. I welcome any and all input into the technical advantages/disadvantages of 1.92:1 versus 2.40:1

William

Gino;

I understand the "more phosphor usage = more light" advantage of 2.40:1. There are 2 issues with this aspect ratio:

1) If using a scalar: introduces noise into the video chain
2) If not using a scalar, loss of image at top/bottom, when viewing ATSC material. My viewing is roughly 50% movies at 2.40:1 and 50% sports at 1.78:1

Cliffy;

I sent you a PM on Curt's web site a while ago. Would you please read it and respond?

What aspect ratio screen did you use at the Midwest Blendzilla meet?

All;

The screen aspect ratio design decision has not yet been made. I welcome any and all input into the technical advantages/disadvantages of 1.92:1 versus 2.40:1

William

Didn't know that William. I'll take a look.

I used 1.78:1 at the meet.

Cliff

Gino;

I understand the "more phosphor usage = more light" advantage of 2.40:1. There are 2 issues with this aspect ratio:

1) If using a scalar: introduces noise into the video chain
2) If not using a scalar, loss of image at top/bottom, when viewing ATSC material. My viewing is roughly 50% movies at 2.40:1 and 50% sports at 1.78:1

Cliffy;

I sent you a PM on Curt's web site a while ago. Would you please read it and respond?

What aspect ratio screen did you use at the Midwest Blendzilla meet?

All;

The screen aspect ratio design decision has not yet been made. I welcome any and all input into the technical advantages/disadvantages of 1.92:1 versus 2.40:1

William

William, I checked my PM's over at Curt's and dont see anything from you.

Cliff

All;

The screen aspect ratio design decision has not yet been made. I welcome any and all input into the technical advantages/disadvantages of 1.92:1 versus 2.40:1

William

My decision for 1.92 was space constraint in a 16 foot deep room; I tried 1.78 using white canvas and it looked too tall. I watch 50% HD satellite so that is how I elected 1.92

Oops!

Our first weekend selected, May 12-13 seems to conflict with Mother's Day, so we are pondering a change to the weekend before (May 5-6) or the weekend after (May 19-20). Your input is appreciated. We doubt that many will see a conflict with Cinco de Mayo!

Your input is appreciated. We doubt that many will see a conflict with Cinco de Mayo!Cinco de Mayo works best for me... easy to remember, too.

Plus, I'm taking my boys camping on May 19, so I wouldn't be able to attend.

May 19-20 is definitely out for me too

I guess I'll have to vote number three.

Cliff

Looks like it might be CINCO DE MAYO!!!!!!
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Uhh yea, both weekends are fine for me...not that I really matter though :p.

Guys!

We are cooking some additional BlendZilla Meet plans for later this year; those in the Midwest will want to try for Lexington KY, possibly in the September-October time frame, and also for Sunnyvale CA possibly before Lexington, we will go sticky with some announcements when the plans begin to solidify more. I especially want to do something in Los Angeles-San Diego so anyone with an interest, e.mail me to begin some discussions. Meet requirements to include a darkenable room in the 15' x20' range, some clear floor space in front, an HD satellite system and a fridge full of beer!

Gino;

The Home Theater room has no windows. It is a completely enclosed room. All painted surfaces are a very dark gray. The floor is carpeted with a very dark gray carpet. With all of the equipment off, you can't even see your hand in front of your face. Dark enough for you?

Cliff;

The screen aspect ratio decision still has not been made yet. It will be made sometime this month. I will select either 2.40:1 or 1.92:1. The material will be SmX. The width will probably be 12 feet.

At the moment, I am leaning towards 2.40:1, under the thinking that I should maximize the theater for movies, and take what I get from HDTV. I really don't want to use a scalar at all, but may be willing to compromise on the HDTV side of the video chain.

I already have a Stewart microperf Videomatte (gain = 1.5) 10 foot wide motorized screen installed. I have recently been thinking about maybe building a 10 foot wide 2.40:1 SmX screen for the meet, and installing it immediately behind the Stewart. That way I could put the Stewart down (in front of the SmX screen) for HDTV, and put the Stewart up (leaving only the SmX screen) for movies. I need to talk to Mike about this, to see if from his point of view, this is even feasible.

William
The Mythical Host

Guys!

It hasn't rained like this since U-571..........

Watching the Superbowl, it looked early like the Bears would run away but the Colts have exacted some revenge......hey, we got a game here!!!!!

The rain made a lot of pix look foggy so I picked the best few:


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On my BlendZilla nine foot wide screen...........

Yea, this rain is really annoying. I feel like I'm watching through a cloudy window.

All;

Just so's ya'll are clear, the new East Coast BlendZilla meet days are Saturday, May 5 and Sunday, May 6.

Yes, Cinco De Mayo rules!!!!!

William
The Mythical Host

Guys!

Time to bring this around so new arrivals in the East Region can be aware and mark their calendars for May 5-6!!!!!

Oops!

I must have hit Bump.......

Guy!

Regards lodging for this........

Not until the other site's server comes back so I can just copy the hotel links from there.

But basically, any hotel in "Chantilly VA" is fine.

Curt's Forum Server is Kaput for the moment so bear with us......or beer with us if you can attend!!!

There is a Hilton Garden Inn near Rte 50 and Fairfax County Parkway. Technically in Fairfax, not Chantilly. When I got married in 2003 it was brand new, the rooms were pretty comfortable, had a bar, and we got a group rate in the $60/night range which was a total steal.

I'd recomend it.

Folks,
Count me totally in!

Being a local, is there anything I can help you out? PM me

Guys!

I pulled this down from elsewhere:

Your best bet will probably be in Chantilly at the intersection of Rt 28 and Rt 50...

Hampton Inn:
http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/hotels/index.jhtml?ctyhocn=WASCNHX

Residence Inn:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/IADFX

Fairfield Inn:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/iadfc-fairfield-inn-dulles-airport-chantilly/

TownPlace Suites:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/iadts-towneplace-suites-chantilly/

Courtyard by Marriott:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/iadca-courtyard-dulles-airport-chantilly/

Hi Tim,

It was a real pleasure meeting you on Friday.

Your BlendZilla setup was something else to see! I had to force myself to get up off your couch! I had plans for early Saturday morning otherwise you would have been kicking me out of your place. :D

Keep in touch,
Brad

Guys!

Nice of Brad to stop by, he is based in Edmonton and was visiting his folks just two miles away.

Do you have to buy anything, or can I just come and look at the pretty pictures? :D

Dear AudioPhil;

There is no admission to the East Coast Blendzilla Meet. And, actually, there will be nothing for sale. Quite the opposite, in that there will be Door Prizes available to the early attenders. To summarize, you, and any one else, are welcome to just come and view an amazing image.

William
Back from crossing 10 time zones

Dear AudioPhil;

There is no admission to the East Coast Blendzilla Meet. And, actually, there will be nothing for sale. Quite the opposite, in that there will be Door Prizes available to the early attenders. To summarize, you, and any one else, are welcome to just come and view an amazing image.

William
Back from crossing 10 time zones

Booked tickets for Bomrat and I Sunday Morning with Clarence.

It's a done deal.

Cliff

Booked tickets for Bomrat and I Sunday Morning with Clarence.

It's a done deal.

Cliff

William......

.......better double your beer order!!!!!! :D

William......

.......better double your beer order!!!!!! :D

Hey William, some weed would be nice too!!!!! It would be a bit hard to sneak it on the plane! :D :eek:

(just kidding!)

Cliffy

I hope one out of two is gonna be good enough. :)

William

Booked tickets for Bomrat and I Sunday Morning with Clarence.

It's a done deal.

Cliff

Cliff... are we still ok for Thursday?

Cliff... are we still ok for Thursday?

All is good Gino!!!!! I fly out of Midway with Arli at 3:30 pm on Friday so I'll have to head out at about noon or 12:30. If your flight is later, your more than welcome to relax at my place until you and your lady have to leave for the airport.

Get ready for some liver damage!!!!!! :D

Cliffy

Got room for a Canuck? It's really tempting to go.....;)

Got room for a Canuck? It's really tempting to go.....;)

You should go Curt. Would be nice to finally meet you.

Cliff

Trust me, it's tempting. $600 incl hotel return out of Sea-Tac. (Seattle).

I'll be in touch if I do go, gotta see how sales pan out this week. Lots of 'yeah I really want to buy', and much less of the 'here's the cashola'

:)

Trust me, it's tempting. $600 incl hotel return out of Sea-Tac. (Seattle).

I'll be in touch if I do go, gotta see how sales pan out this week. Lots of 'yeah I really want to buy', and much less of the 'here's the cashola'

:)

It just wouldn't be the same if you werent there!!!!!!!!! :D

Yeah, I can see it now.

'Whos' that guy in the corner?'


"Oh, some effing guy that came all the way down from somewhere up North. He came in with his mukluks and toque, put some back bacon on the stove, cracked a beer and is just staring at the screen. We can't understand him when he speaks, we're just ignoring him"


;)

Dude, you know damn well we'd be cracking up and talking all KINDS OF SCHIT!!!!! :^)

Cliffy

Trust me, it's tempting. $600 incl hotel return out of Sea-Tac. All of our guest rooms are already booked that weekend, but there's a sleeper sofa in the basement. Cliff and I stay up shootin' the sh't all night during these meets anyways.

All of our guest rooms are already booked that weekend, but there's a sleeper sofa in the basement. Cliff and I stay up shootin' the sh't all night during these meets anyways.

PERFECT!!!! :)

Curt has no excuse now.

I can see it now....... The big CRT slumber party with strippers and all!!!!! :eek: :D ;)

Cliffy

Would be awesome if you were there too Curt!

Now.. what's happened to Mr Sonneborn?

Hi. I live in Brookeville, MD, about 1 hour away. Be glad to put someone up for a few days in one of our guest rooms. Best to fly in and out of BWI for my house but Dulles works too. Tim or Curt especially. My house on the lake beats any hotel. Nce Ht with a MP maxed out 9500LC. PM if interested. First PM gets it.

I am so looking forward to this meet.. :)

Now, where's Ken? Me, Clarence and JB could use a little more help for this event. And since so much is needed for the setup, it would be nice to have some calibration help.

Maybe some of the locals could take advantage of Ken's calibration skills and get him out here for the whole week leading up to the event. That way we can also have him here for the calibration.

I can try and help... but what do I know? ;)

Who will be doing colour calibration and using what?

The only catch is, I'm up at 5 AM every day and crash about 9. So while I'd miss the 'PUKE AND RALLY' part, as an amateur keyboard player and drummer, if there are ANY musical instruments in the house, I'd sure make your morning hangover entertaining as hell..;)

I'll check into schedules and stuff tomorrow. No promises, but I'll try.

Curt

I can try and help... but what do I know? ;)

Who will be doing colour calibration and using what?

I suggested to Mike that they hire Ken. Plus, he has experience with this now.

His setup on my meet was nothing short of Spectacular. Just awesome.

Cliff

The only catch is, I'm up at 5 AM every day and crash about 9. So while I'd miss the 'PUKE AND RALLY' part, as an amateur keyboard player and drummer, if there are ANY musical instruments in the house, I'd sure make your morning hangover entertaining as hell..;)

I'll check into schedules and stuff tomorrow. No promises, but I'll try.

Curt

Schedule schmedule!!!!!!! See you there big dog!!!!

Cliff

I suggested to Mike that they hire Ken. Plus, he has experience with this now.

His setup on my meet was nothing short of Spectacular. Just awesome.

Cliff

It would be great to see the master at work!

Now.. what's happened to Mr Sonneborn?

Spoke to Art, says he won't be attending... but he has graciously welcomed me to visit so am hoping I can fit it in after your place Cliff before the meet.

Gino. You can't "see" the master at work. He works in the dark! :)

Spoke to Art, says he won't be attending... but he has graciously welcomed me to visit so am hoping I can fit it in after your place Cliff before the meet.

Damn,

Wish I had the time. I'd go with you!

Cliff

The only catch is, I'm up at 5 AM every day and crash about 9. So while I'd miss the 'PUKE AND RALLY' part, as an amateur keyboard player and drummer, if there are ANY musical instruments in the house, I'd sure make your morning hangover entertaining as hell..;)5am-9pm PST is 8am-midnight EST, so you could stick to your usual schedule and only miss the after-midnight BS sessions.

No drums, but there are 2 Strats, a bass, and an acoustic guitar hanging on the wall downstairs, plus a set of keyboards... my boys are just starting music lessons, so the soundproofing in the basement will REALLY pay off in the next few years.

Hmmm... maybe I should be smart and stay at Haflich's house myself.

Now, where's Ken? Me, Clarence and JB could use a little more help for this event. And since so much is needed for the setup, it would be nice to have some calibration help.

Maybe some of the locals could take advantage of Ken's calibration skills and get him out here for the whole week leading up to the event. That way we can also have him here for the calibration.I'm definitely up for it!


Ken Whitcomb

Maybe some of the locals could take advantage of Ken's calibration skills and get him out here for the whole week leading up to the event. That way we can also have him here for the calibration.That's a smart opportunity for people in OH, PA, WV, VA, MD looking for calibration.

I'm definitely up for it!


Ken Whitcomb

OK, now _this_ I want to see. When do you figure you'd be there to do the setup/calibration?

When do you figure you'd be there to do the setup/calibration?Curt,

I'll have to get with Mike and figure out who'll be doing what in the setup, but I'd like to see it ready to go the morning before the event. Tweaking at Cliff's the day of was a little too last-minute for my taste.


Ken Whitcomb

Wow, I might have to go just so I can learn how to use the PR-650 I won on e-bay for $65.00 plus shipping ;)

CHip

Chip. Your mom would be proud to know you finally won something! :)

Chip, we could do a little Ampro caravan on down there... drive one of your fuel trucks, use it as a bomb in case we think the blend has surpassed the beauty that is the Ampro.

the beauty that is the Ampro.

Now you're becoming a comedian too? :D

I'm just trying to let Chip down gently for when my MP modded 9500 gets here ;) I will say though that working in the Ampro case is by FAR the easiest time I've ever had. I really like the case design.

Curt,

I'll have to get with Mike and figure out who'll be doing what in the setup, but I'd like to see it ready to go the morning before the event. Tweaking at Cliff's the day of was a little too last-minute for my taste.


Ken Whitcomb

Grrrr... see Art's stack or see Ken at work on the Friday :confused:

Grrrr... see Art's stack or see Ken at work on the Friday :confused:

LOL, your gonna need some sleep after I keep you up all night drinking and bullschitting at my place! :)

Cliff

Damn,

Wish I had the time. I'd go with you!

Cliff

Yea ,the Margaritas will be flowing. :D


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Cliff,
Please PM me your address so I can send your HDDVD player back.

Art

I'm just trying to let Chip down gently for when my MP modded 9500 gets here ;) I will say though that working in the Ampro case is by FAR the easiest time I've ever had. I really like the case design.

"Let me down" I'm thrilled that that you feel justified. Of course, if it takes a modified 9500 to sway you from your 4600, that's cool. But, if you're so certain that you've made the right choice, load that 4600 in the back of my pick-up the same day your 9500 shows up. I want to snag it before you realize the mistake :p When Should I show up? :D I'll even let you keep the lenses.

Chip

Chip, if I ever get rid of it I'll give it to you. Honestly. :) If we had ever gotten the Marquee neck board mods to work for the 4600 to improve the bandwidth I think it would have really made the 4600 shine. But I never could manage 1080p out of mine.

Mark's place now appears booked with two guests. Time to tell my wife. If I ask first, she might say no. Now it's informatory rather than permission seeking. Life is good.

Mark's place now appears booked with two guests. Time to tell my wife. If I ask first, she might say no. Now it's informatory rather than permission seeking. Life is good.

LOL!!! That's exactly how I did it with my wife for Gino's visit. :D ;)

Cliff

Yea ,the Margaritas will be flowing. :D


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p146/CarlosMeat/DSC021003.jpg

Cliff,
Please PM me your address so I can send your HDDVD player back.

Art

That is one sexy dude in that pic. One hell of a drink to boot!!!!! :)

Cliffy

LOL!!! That's exactly how I did it with my wife for Gino's visit. :D ;)

Cliff

Haha... good one Cliff. I'm thinking of doing the same for Art's visit. I'll book the flight, then inform her we are going to see yet another ht! That's 4 ultimate CRT ht's... she'll be thrilled :rolleyes:

Haha... good one Cliff. I'm thinking of doing the same for Art's visit. I'll book the flight, then inform her we are going to see yet another ht! That's 4 ultimate CRT ht's... she'll be thrilled :rolleyes:

LOL. She is going to fly back with home-theater-idas. ;)

Cliff

No problems... I have the cure... when we get home... more



BlendZilla DownUnder :)

More what? Sex?

Is there still any room available ? It sounds like it is getting pretty full .

This is looking like it would be a pretty fun event to attend.


Bruce

Is there still any room available ? It sounds like it is getting pretty full .

This is looking like it would be a pretty fun event to attend.


Bruce


There are a number of motels within fifteen miles........


Originally Posted by Clarence
Your best bet will probably be in Chantilly at the intersection of Rt 28 and Rt 50...

Hampton Inn:
http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/...ctyhocn=WASCNHX

Residence Inn:
http://marriott.com/property/propertypage/IADFX

Fairfield Inn:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/i...port-chantilly/

TownPlace Suites:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/i...ites-chantilly/

Courtyard by Marriott:
http://marriott.com/hotels/travel/i...port-chantilly/

Thanks Tim , I am pretty sure I could locate a hotel, But I was wondering more of room at the meet .

I am seriously considering coming down to see this blending rig and finally meet few familiar names.

Bruce

If anyone is thinking of coming from the Wet Coast, Jetblue is the way to go. I saved $200+ over Expedia. THe only thing with JetsBlue is that they don't serve meals, saving money.

I'm hoping my garlic salami with goatscheese sandwich doesn't affect anyone...:D

(I haven't actually booked yet, but wil any day).

I think he is asking is there room at the event to attend?

For those tuning in late, our DVX "BlendZilla" processor is from Analog France, a broadcast grade switcher with some interesting capabilities; eight inputs including SDI and HDSDI, dual transcoders, and dual exotic scalers that can redraw a 16:9 source into squarish "halves" that seamlessly overlap at the screen:


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This technology, known as edge blending, enables us to light up the full height of the phosphor and the use of larger screens in the range of nine to twelve foot width.

Paired with two nine inch CRTs, figure on the equivalent of over 500 ANSI lumens!!!

If anyone is thinking of coming from the Wet Coast, Jetblue is the way to go.http://southwest.com is dirt cheap into the nearest airport... Washington-Dulles (IAD)... Cliff & Arli only paid $49 from Chicago.

Wow, Curt will be there... I should go and meet the lengendary AVS CRT fixer. :D I sold Curt a Sony 1031Q many, many years ago... hope it got retubed and is being enjoyed by someone. :D

Do you all need anything for the meet?

Have we got a master list of attendees?

Have we got a master list of attendees?
William Kosmann (host)
Mike Parker
John JBJR
Curt Palme
Gino & guest
Clarence
Cliff
Arli (bomrat)
Rajdude
emdawgz (John E)
wmbelcher
Ken Whitcomb
Mark Haflich
NautikaL
Audiophil

Blendzilla
HD-DVD: Toshiba, XBox360
Blu-Ray
DTheater/DVHS
HTPC: TS files, USB HDDVD drive, & MCE2005 streaming HD X360, homemade HDDVD
12' SMX and WilsonArt screens

William Kosmann (host)
Mike Parker
John JBJR
Curt Palme
Gino & guest
Clarence
Cliff
Arli (bomrat)
Rajdude
emdawgz
wmbelcher
Ken Whitcomb
Mark Haflich
NautikaL
Audiophil

Blendzilla
HD-DVD: Toshiba, XBox360
Blu-Ray
DTheater/DVHS
HTPC: TS files, USB HDDVD drive, & MCE2005 streaming HD X360, homemade HDDVD
12' SMX and WilsonArt screens

Oh boy is there some work to do. Remember big dog? :D :D :D :D

THANK GOD I'M JUST A VISITOR!!!!!! :p

Can't wait to come and spend some time with one of my best buds.......

Cliffy

Anyone else bringing their partners along?

How long will Ken be hanging around? I'll only be getting there on Saturday, will be going to Art's Friday evening.

I was thinking of bringing my wife by so she can see that there are folks out there that have a much more serious HT addiction than me.

Let me know if you need an extra set of hands getting this setup. I'd really like to see how you put the SMX screen together. I'm not in the same league as the rest of you guys, but I'm only 15 minutes away on the other side of Bull Run Mountain. And you can call me Bill Belcher instead of wmbelcher.

Mark Connor is coming and staying at my place so he should be added to the list.

I am thinking of have a barbecue for the whole group at my place on the lake, logistically though I am about 1 hour away. Easy drive though.

I probably won't be attending the actual showing though. Political reasons unfortunately but fortunately not involving Tim, Curt, Ken, or the host.

I probably won't be attending the actual showing though. Political reasons unfortunately but fortunately not involving Tim, Curt, Ken, or the host.

:confused:

Why not, I think it would be good to have as many people as possible there. Unless of course some one invited those folk from the white house, then I'll not be there either.

I'm looking forward to this event, and I'm expecting it to be a great event. I could not see any reason to not show up, especially since it will be a good opportunity to be around some great CRT folk. If there's anyone interested in coming that has a political agenda or anything else that could hinder the spirit of this event, they should not come. But since I don't know of anyone that would have bad motives, then all should be well.

It's still on Sunday as well? Saturday's going to be pretty busy unfortunately.

Jeff

Sunday also, that is the plan. William will determine start times and provide directions a few weeks out.

Did I say something wrong????????

Cliffy

Ummmmm :p :rolleyes:

Tim. It would be helpful to edit your frst post and insert the dates and time, yada yada.

Thanks for the post Mike. :)

Hey Tim, it would be nice to see your name on the list also! Would like to finally meet you!

John

His name and picture is on display at my local post office. :)

His name and picture is on display at my local post office. :)


And I was not up for Postal Carrier of the Month........! :D

cliff, a spectator, he'll need beer stat... can't wait to get out for a mini trip.

cliff, a spectator, he'll need beer stat... can't wait to get out for a mini trip.

LOL. Busy weekend for sure for both of us. Gino and his lady on Thursday night. No sleep. Leave for Clarence on Friday. No sleep. Meet on saturday. No sleep......

My liver is going to be trashed and my brain mush. :D

Damn, I'm so glad I'm not hosting this!!!!!!! :) :cool:

Cliffy

Yes, this is going to be nuts... long day flying from Andres' in Spain (Marquee Blend), Cliff's on Thursday and no sleep (G90 stack), then Arts on Friday and no sleep (G90 stack), then Will's on Saturday and no sleep (Marquee Blend), then Will's on Sunday and no sleep again! :eek: :o :rolleyes: :cool: :p

Yes, this is going to be nuts... long day flying from Andres' in Spain (Marquee Blend), Cliff's on Thursday and no sleep (G90 stack), then Arts on Friday and no sleep (G90 stack), then Will's on Saturday and no sleep (Marquee Blend), then Will's on Sunday and no sleep again! :eek: :o :rolleyes: :cool: :p

Isn't it going to be great?!? :D

I can't wait! I wish I could hang at Andres' place with you.

Cliff

Cliffy. Why can't you be accurate in your posts? Common.

Your liver IS ALREADY trashed and your brain IS ALREADY mush!

I am going to pick up a set of HD10F lenses I received today. I will try to get another set before Gino's visit; but at any rate we probably will compare HD10F to GT17 (and even to HD10 if time allows).

For me this is the culmination of 2 years of planning and waiting. I am already working hard on the setup (dedicated bat cave, treated for sound insulation and proofing -it even has a special acoustic door-) but I am refraining of posting any pics until IT'S DONE!!! The only thing I can say is that if the 5 meter wide screen looks bright (even if I overdrive the tubes hard) it will be amazing!

Those HD10F's should help with the blend. The HFQ900's certainly helped with my focus from edge to edge.

Cliffy. Why can't you be accurate in your posts? Common.

Your liver IS ALREADY trashed and your brain IS ALREADY mush!

Nah, only half trashed and half mush. This still puts me in the healthy and smart category!!!!!! :)

Cliffy

Nah, only half trashed and half mush. This still puts me in the healthy and smart category!!!!!! :)

Cliffy

May I correct slightly?

This still puts me in the 'ability to drink more beer and smoke more pot' category!!!!!! :p :D

So have you booked your flight yet Curt?

Guys!

I hope to have times and directions posted here by the weekend.....William?

Dear All East Coast BlendZilla Meet Potential Attendees:

Lets start the meet at 2:00 PM on Saturday, May 5th, going to whenever. Home Theater has no windows, so you won't even know its daylight.

Lets start the meet up again at 2:00 PM on Sunday, May 6th, going to whenever.

I will probably be taking Thursday, May 3rd, Friday, May 4th and Monday, May 7th off, so early arrivers, late stayers shall be accommodated!!!

The meet address (for all you Map Questers out there) is:

37523 Maple Shade Lane
Middleburg, Virginia 20117

Directions;

If coming from the North, travel down I 95 to I 495 West, to Rt 50 west (30 miles) to Sam Fred Road north, (2 miles) to Maple Shade Lane. 2 story brick Georgian Colonial exterior shell to the Home Theater.

If coming from the South, travel up I 95 to I 495 West, to Rt 50 west (30 miles) to Sam Fred Road north, (2 miles) to Maple Shade Lane. 2 story brick Georgian Colonial exterior shell to the Home Theater.

If coming from the West, make it to I 81, exit on Rt. 50 east (30 miles) to Sam Fred Road north, ( 2 miles) to Maple Shade Lane. 2 story brick Georgian Colonial exterior shell to the Home Theater.

If travelling from the East, get onto the Washington Capitol beltway going your favorite direction. Travel around to Rt 50 west (30 miles) to Sam Fred Road north, 2 miles to Maple Shade Lane. 2 story brick Georgian Colonial exterior shell to the Home Theater.

If flying in to Washington Dulles airport, and renting a car, exit main airport exit, south on Rt. 28, west on Rt 50 (20 miles) to Sam Fred Road north, ( 2 miles) to Maple Shade Lane. 2 story brick Georgian Colonial exterior shell to the Home Theater.

Those local coming down Rt. 15 should turn right onto Lime Kiln Road, travel to end of road, turn left on Snickersville Pike, go about 1 mile, turn right on Sam Fred Road, go about 1.5 miles, left on Maple Shade lane. You know the rest.

I read every post in the East Coast BlendZilla Meet thread in all 3 forums. Following are those individuals who have said the are coming, or expressed an interest in possibly coming. Anyone else who from here on in says they are coming will be added to the list.

William (the host), plus wife (Cheryl)
Mike Parker (with Video Chain magic, super VIMs, super neckboards, setup)
Mysterious Analog Way VP
Clarence (with HD DVD, Bluray, DTheater, HTPC sources)
Gino and Jessica
NauticaL
Wallace123456 (Wallace) (with BBQ, Victory Beer(?), Beef Jerky, Margaritas(?))
Belcherwm (Bill)
Ecrabb
Emdawqz1 (John) (with Beef Chili, hot wings, mild wings, etc.)
Z-Photo
JBJR (John) (with 1080P video cables)
Overclrckr (Cliff) (with Beef Jerky, BBQ(?))
Bomrat (Arli)
dc-pilgrim
rajdude (with food (?))
Audiophil (with food (?))
Curt Palme
Ken Whitcomb (with color calibration(?))
Stefuel
Bruce Can ?
Mark Conner
Mark Haflich ?
MadHatter ?

Mark it would be realy great if you could make it.

Tim, bring the cats. I have lots of room for them!!!

If anyone else is coming, please let me know. Everyone is welcome either day or both days.

There will be door prizes. Movie posters, perhaps some HD DVDs, some extra Extron PC interfaces, SmX samples, and maybe some other goodies.

William

Would love to come, but my schedule isn't lining up. Have a blast all, post pics. Thanks, Dave

Looks like about 25 coming with 4 being owners and set up people for the sytem. One industry pro and three who already have stacked systems. How many coming would really consider doing a CRT edge blending stack now based on being blown away at what they might see? Why isn't Tim on the list and time to remove DC Pilgrim.

Mrk and Ken. Please let me know your travel schedules.

You guys should invite Jim form Lumagen ...maybe they'll add that feature to their new scaler...i have been trying to get a buzz going on the processor forum .

Athanasios

love this new CRT addiction

Why isn't Tim on the list..........


I have unavoidable responsibilities in Phoenix. The keg of beer is calling to me though.......:D :D

boy I would love to make it to this!

-Gary

Gary. I am going to Louisville and Lexington this Weds to Monday morning. Quick flight and cheap SWA from RT Louisville to BWI or even Dulles, a little more expensive. We will find space to put you up if you want to come. Let me know.

Should be lots of flights out of Louisville because of people coming in for the Derby. You'd be going against the flow.

boy I would love to make it to this!

-Gary

Gary,
Come on down for the show. Would be great to meet you.

William,
Since I'm right up the road in Purcellville, let me know if you need help with anything on the Friday before. I'll be taking the day off working on the BBQ and beef jerkey.

wallace

Ah.. the uniqueness of CRT. That ability to get down into the mud without getting dirty..:D


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Just one time I am gonna watch that DVD and the last torpedo will miss. And that lady in the Fifth Element will have gotten a breast implant.

Just one time I am gonna watch that DVD and ... that lady in the Fifth Element will have gotten a breast implant.I borrowed this picture from thebland's discussion about racks...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10239544&&#post10239544

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Uh uh. Not enough nipple. NEXT

I borrowed this picture from thebland's discussion about racks...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10239544&&#post10239544

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6687/haflichre1.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I'd hit it..........

And bounce off :)

And bounce off :)


Hehehe

Possibly the Funniest Thing I have ever seen here.........:D:D:D:D:D

Not that I wouldn't mind going but, how the hell did my name get on that list? I didn't sign up for that. I'll be working that weekend. Besides, if I were there, it would just be spoiled by Pete and I getting into the whole AmPro thing :D

Chip

I borrowed this picture from thebland's discussion about racks...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10239544&&#post10239544

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Damn! Damn! Damn!!

As Tiny Elvis would say, (remember Tiny Elvis from Saturday Night Live?) "Thats HUGE, man, thats HUGE!!"

wallace

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Absolutely Stunning........

Very nice big dog.

Cliff

William

Do you have any adds to the Guest List this week? :D

Wish i could join the fun! But here is an Idea! I am trying to get a review unit/s of tvones Scalers that do Blending, After your meet bring the gear up to Buffalo and we can do a shoot out with the blendzilla and Tvones units!!!!My room is 16x30 no windows and my fridge is empty just waiting to be filled with beer! :D :D :D


just a thought guys !!

here is the thread i started on the tvones:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=832362

Athansios (Tom to make it eaiser for everyone ;) )


Love this new crt Addiction i have !

Wallace,

You have a PM. Drop me a line.

This time I'm using an 02 (50-2035-02P) VIM.

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Mike

What's cooking besides.......ham?

:-)

U got it.

wallace


Wallace,

You have a PM. Drop me a line.

I will attempt to update the attendance list about once a week. I have removed Stefuel and dc_pligrim, and added the people at the bottom of the list.

Following is my best current guess as to who is coming:

William (the host), plus wife (Cheryl)
Mike Parker (with Video Chain magic, super VIMs, super neckboards, setup, lowly 8" Marquee)
Mysterious Analog Way VP
Clarence (with HD DVD, Bluray, DTheater, HTPC sources)
Gino and Jessica
NauticaL
Wallace123456 (Wallace) (with BBQ, Victory Beer(?), Beef Jerky, Margaritas(?))
Belcherwm (Bill) (helping Wallace with the Victory Beer)
Ecrabb
Emdawqz1 (John) (with Beef Chili, hot wings, mild wings, etc.)
Z-Photo
JBJR (John) (with 1080P video cables, setup)
Overclrckr (Cliff) (with Beef Jerky, BBQ(?))
Bomrat (Arli)
rajdude (with food (?))
Audiophil (with food (?))
Curt Palme
Ken Whitcomb (with color calibration)
Bruce Can ?
Mark Conner
Mark Haflich
MadHatter ?

Bill Lackner (and Jackie)
CRT Ben (and Cheryl)
Edie Sears
Allen1994
Gary Murrell ?

And don't leave out my lowly 8" Marquee. It was just upgraded with my final work on yesterday.

It asked me if there would be a DIGITAL at the meet...


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And don't leave out my lowly 8" Marquee. It was just upgraded with my final work on yesterday.

It asked me if there would be a DIGITAL at the meet...


1920x1080P/60hz - Xbox 360 w/HD-DVD - Marquee 8500
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Hi Mike,
please, can you remember me the title of the film of this picture with Jennifer Connely?
Thanks

Looks like Hulk.

I just want to send out my sympathies to those of you in virginia for the massacre that occured at Virginia Tech. I hope that those of you who live there or have children or family that attends the college that every one of your loved ones are ok and That the nations thoughts and prayers go out to you.


Athansios

Monday was surreal. Just numbers that kept getting bigger as the morning went on.

Tuesday the numbers became people. A cousin of a coworker, a family member of someone at my daughter's school. Our youth pastor, down there for the weekend, calling to let us know he is OK.

The details coming out about the victims show how amazing the students and faculty of this school are.

Hello

The entire planet mourns the loss and it never makes sense, a kid just snapped.........

My son Sean goes to Virginia Tech. He was outside the classroom building where all the shooting occured, attending a morning class that was meeting outdoors, when the shooting was going on. The gunman must have walked by that group of students on his way into the building. If he had decided to start shooting before he went into the building.............

Sean was one of the students interviewed by Charles Gibson. The interviews were shown this evening on the ABC news.

No parent should ever outlive one of his or her children.

No parent should ever outlive one of his or her children.
This sort of senseless act should just not happen... period

My son Sean goes to Virginia Tech. He was outside the classroom building where all the shooting occured, attending a morning class that was meeting outdoors, when the shooting was going on. The gunman must have walked by that group of students on his way into the building. If he had decided to start shooting before he went into the building.............

Sean was one of the students interviewed by Charles Gibson. The interviews were shown this evening on the ABC news.

No parent should ever outlive one of his or her children.

Glad to hear your son is ok. Your family must have been on edge.

We used to take our daughter to VT for Loudoun Valley Marching band competitions. Beautiful place Blacksburg is. Horrible, horrible situation yesterday.

A lot of her friends go there now. Even though she doesn't attend there we had to call yesterday to hear her voice.

Gino;

I completely agree with you.

Wallace;

Thank you for the kind supportive thoughts.

William

Ok, I really feel bad for that whole situation, and am sorry for the losses, BUT, THE ZILLA MEET IS COMING QUICK!!!!!

Time to put on our happy faces and Mike Parker better make me go HOLY SCCHHIITT that is ONE HELL OF A PICTURE when I come or I am going to force no less than 6 beers at once through a beer bong down his throat and make him scream I LOVE G90'S!!!!!!!! :p :D :p :D

Yo, check it:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/27.jpg

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/29.jpg

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/36.jpg

:D

Cliffy

Time to put on our happy faces and Mike Parker better make me go HOLY SCCHHIITT that is ONE HELL OF A PICTURE

Cliffy

I'll do my best at setting up those Marquees. Not that I'm concerned about their ability. That's the least of my concerns. I'm even taking down my lowly 8" Marquee and bringing it to the meet.

Those are rather impressive images you've posted there, and though I've shut down the screen-shot machine until after the meet. Your images compelled me to fire up my lowly 8" Marquee and take few more:

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We're gonna Wow Ya..!

:D

WOW ! Cliff
These are some REALLY impressive screenshots!
Tell you what... sometimes I feel that these screenshots look better than actual projected pics of G90s!

Any Mike...your work is awesome! Getting a 8" Marquee to do that, man, you are something! Would it be possible to see your work in person someday?
I live nearby.

Would it be possible to see your work in person someday?
I live nearby.

Sure, just let me know when you'll like to stop by. I'll have that 8" fired up for you..)

I live about two miles from Andrews AFB. One mile outside of the beltway towards Waldorf.

I'll do my best at setting up those Marquees. Not that I'm concerned about their ability. That's the least of my concerns. I'm even taking down my lowly 8" Marquee and bringing it to the meet.

Those are rather impressive images you've posted there, and though I've shut down the screen-shot machine until after the meet. Your images compelled me to fire up my lowly 8" Marquee and take few more:

1920x1080P @ 60hz - Xbox 360/MP-1.4
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6398/hpim1682ov9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

1920x1080P @ 72hz - HTPC/Gforce6600/MP-1.4
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4378/hpim1671ta9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

We're gonna Wow Ya..!

:D

Cant wait big dog!!!! I fly out in 2 weeks! :)

I promise I wont bring a BEER BONG. :p

Cliffy

A Sunday start at 2pm doesn't give attendees with 5 pm or 6 pm BWI airport departures on Sunday really any time to attend on Sunday. Any chance on starting on Sunday say about 11AM? This would allow 4 or so hours attendance on Sunday. How late Sat night will you go. It looks like I will only be able to attend Saturday night after 7 pm or so or early Sunday because of the need to work in my store on Sat afternoon and get other attendees back to their airports yada yada.and on Sunday.

Any Mike...your work is awesome! Getting a 8" Marquee to do that,

Oh, that's nothing. Later today when it's dark again. I'll do another round of screen-shots. And I'll also throw in a few test patterns, that will really show what this PJ will do.

And when we get to the meet, I'll also show the same patterns, and will show how well it will truly resolve above 200mhz..:cool:


and while I'm at it. I think it's only fair to give Scott (tse) his props for his help on the bandwidth thing... we're off the chain..:D

Wait till you see what 1080P fully resolved really looks like.. ;)

Just tell me that my boards are on their way Mike ;)

Just tell me that my boards are on their way Mike ;)

Will do.

So far I have 6 packages to get ready before you, and they have not left here yet. So I'm seriously busy working on getting things out of the way so I can focus on the meet. And if I'm not able to get them out today, I'll let you know by this evening.

So Mike, are you shipping out your mods now or in the order stage?

Athansios

So Mike, are you shipping out your mods now or in the order stage?

Athansios

We're not taking any orders for Marquee mods until after the meet. What I'm sending out is all previous work, that I want to get out of the way to focus on the upcoming meet.

More likely when we do get back to taking mod orders, it will happen based on boards we have already in stock. In other words, we plan to do exchanges only.

So for now, I have a box of boards that I'll be pre-modding to exchange only. And from there, someone else will be handling the actual board work to the mods.

Though it seems simple to do. The level of re-work that I've been doing to these boards is very stressing. And at times it can take upwards of 7 to 8 hours to fully complete a set. That of course includes pre-testing and post testing after the work is done. I'm just not up to doing all that anymore, so I've gotten some competent help. And though most don't know it, most of the boards have issues that would not allow them to handle the bandwidth increase, so at times you have to do a bit of HF tweaking. And at other times, you'll have to swap out a board.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah thanks mike! I'm not in hurry any how right now summer is approaching fast and i have alot of work to do in my back yard(2.6 Acres), after the suprise snow storm of oct 2006. I have literaly tons of tree parts all over the place along with complete 70-90 foot trees down. also i am getting in that refrence 8 PJ in and i might have you mod those so you can maybe give us some idea of what they actualy moded at PSI. Now evryone be nice i dont want to start another fight here ! :D Wish i could come down and meet you all but owning diner doesnt leave you an option for having weekends off!

hope you all have a blast !

Athanasios

i am getting in that refrence 8 PJ in and i might have you mod those so you can maybe give us some idea of what they actualy moded at PSI
Athanasios

I already know what they were doing. and have been on the phone with those guys about what they were doing.

One of their customers sent me a set of boards from a projector he purchased from them and was having problems with it. He paid an additional $1000.00 for the mods.

I won't say what I saw, or did not see. And since we had an understanding from that phone call, it's not something I would like to talk about today.

Sure wish you could make it down, and since not this same. let us know if you'll be in the area in the future.

Dear All;

It is time for the weekly East Coast BlendZilla Meet Attendance List maintenance.

Following is my best current guess as to who is coming:

William (the host), plus wife (Cheryl)
Mike Parker (with Video Chain magic, super VIMs, super neckboards, setup, lowly 8" Marquee)
Mysterious Analog Way VP
Clarence (with HD DVD, Bluray, DTheater, HTPC sources)
Gino and Jessica
NauticaL
Wallace123456 (Wallace) (with BBQ, Victory Beer(?), Beef Jerky, Margaritas(?))
Belcherwm (Bill) (helping Wallace with the Victory Beer)
Ecrabb
Emdawqz1 (John) (with Beef Chili, hot wings, mild wings, etc.)
Z-Photo
JBJR (John) (with 1080P video cables, setup)
Overclrckr (Cliff) (with Beef Jerky, BBQ(?))
Bomrat (Arli)
rajdude (with food (?))
Audiophil (with food (?))
Ken Whitcomb (with color calibration)
Bruce Can ?
Mark Conner
Mark Haflich
MadHatter ?

Bill Lackner (and Jackie)
CRT Ben (and Cheryl)
Edie Sears
Allen1994
Gary Murrell ?

beerbujt (Steve)

Curt Palme has been removed, and Steve (beerbujt) has been added.

I am about to post in the digital projector forum, in a kind and humane way, inviting anyone who would like to come and see CRT at the pinnacle of its current capability. I will also ask if anyone would like to bring a JVC RS1, for comparison purposes.

Mark H, we can start the Sunday Meet any time. Lets set an 11:00 AM start time now, and discuss it on Saturday at the Meet.

William

Dear All;

Some info on what is being prepared for the Meet, just a little under 2 weeks hence:

Sources

Sony SAT HD300 ATSC/NTSC/DirecTV tuner, modified by Mike Parker
Xbox 360 with HD DVD drive, modified by Mike Parker
Possibly an HTPC, for upscaling SD DVD to 1080P, video card mod'd by Mike Parker

Additional HD DVD players (?) See below.
Bluray players (?) See below.

Projectors

2 Marquee 9500LC Extreme Projectors
1 Marquee 8500LC Extreme Projector, for backup and comparison purposes
1 JVC RS1 (?)

The 9500LC Extreme Projectors have the following characteristics:
MP Version 2+ neckboard and 50-2035-02/03 VIM mods
MP other selected mods
New CRTs in one 9500LC
New green CRT in the other 9500LC
New CRTs properly cured
Red Color Correction Element
New glycol
Belden video cables between the neckboards and VIM
Internal video cables rerouted
All glue removed from CRT magnetics
Delta HFQ900 lenses

Both projectors ceiling mounted using Uni-strut and Electrohome ceiling mounts

Screen

12 foot wide 2.35:1 Aspect Ratio SmX acoustically transparent screen material
SmX Pro-Line Extruded Aluminum screen frame (One of the first to ship.)

House

All video cables are Belden 1694, with BNC connectors
Added three 8' long copper ground rods to existing galvanized steel ground rod
Soldered ground cable between all 4 ground rods

I currently only have the Sony SAT HD300 ATSC/NTSC/DirecTV tuner, the Xbox 360 with HD DVD add on drive, and the SD DVD upscaling HTPC sources. This is a special request for Meet attendees to bring only one of any of the following:

HD DVD Player
Toshiba HD-XA2

Bluray Player
Pioneer BHD-1 BD
Sony BDP-S1
Samsung BDP1200
Panasonic DMP-BD10
PS3

Combo HD DVD/Bluray DVD Player
LG BH100

The intent would be to have one of each of the above available, for comparison on the Reference BlendZilla/Marquee Extreme projection setup, to judge for ourselves the differences in source quality. Anyone willing to bring an HD DVD or Bluray player, please post in this thread, so everyone knows.

In addition, I have contacted Pixel Magic about supplying a loaner Crystalio II scalar. No response yet. If anyone has one of these, and would be willing to bring it to the Meet for experimentation, that would be most helpful.

Finally, I have approximately 30 HD DVDs, but no Bluray DVDs. I will post the list of HD DVDs that I own. Any one having a favorite reference HD DVD not on the list, or any reference Bluray DVD is welcome to bring it to the Meet for comparison purposes.

William

I'll bring my Blue Ray discs with me William. Can't wait to see that frame. It looks bad ass.

Cliff

oh God! I didn't know it was a 2.35:1 setup :eek:

I would love to come and bring a Crystalio 3800 demo with me, I need to contact my pixel magic rep on that, maybe my XA2, BDP-S1 and SDI modified Oppo 981 also ;)

-Gary

oh God! I didn't know it was a 2.35:1 setup :eek:

I would love to come and bring a Crystalio 3800 demo with me, I need to contact my pixel magic rep on that, maybe my XA2, BDP-S1 and SDI modified Oppo 981 also ;)

-Gary

Gary,

2:35 or 2:40 yeild the absolute best results when blending for phosphor usage. It's a must.

Cliffy

I'm waiting to hear from Moome, he is going to try and get me a card and external box for the meet for us to demo. Still has a few bugs to work out, and said it my be tight!

I'm waiting to hear from Moome, he is going to try and get me a card and external box for the meet for us to demo. Still has a few bugs to work out, and said it my be tight!

I'm looking forward to this.. :)


http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/990/hpim1741zb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Not to cast a negative, but speaking as one who has hosted a few of these and attended a few others, it will be next to impossible to experiment with the wide variety of sources, processors, and inputs planned for this meet. In order to correctly set up and calibrate things, everything must be in place. You can't willy nilly unplug and change things. Everything changes. You must set up each source, each input yada yada and then create a memorary and then one for each resolution. Just calibrating all this stuff would take days and Ken W's bill would be absolute black (out of sght). remember you will need two Moome casrds because there will be two projectors. Wanna set one up for the card and another for the box? Not me. I think you will quickly find out the need to simplify if one is trying to show what two projectors and a Blendzilla can do. My bet is that moome's stuff will not be ready in time and if it blows something, we may just end up slamming beers and getting lap dances.

MMMM a big kahuna burger :D

-Gary

I'm sorry to enter in your Blendzilla Meeting, where i would be, but with the only Tim's Marquee 9500 LC Ultra i've obteined these images.

At the first these are the images that came from Toshiba HD XE1 via HDMI to the Marquee.
King King HD- DVD....

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9686/dsc0070la2.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2162/dsc0069xw0.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2876/dsc0077ht4.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/899/dsc0070lg8.jpg

.....and Training Day.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6817/dsc0063bp8.jpg

Then these are images that came from a simple DVD played by SDI output of my Denon DVDA11, processed by Teranex Mini in HD-SDI and converted in RGBHV signal by AJA HD10 C2.....
Profumo...

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1619/dsc0089bz3.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3315/dsc0090vd1.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6817/dsc0088bw2.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7938/dsc0086im1.jpg


I put them under you qualified judgement.
I hope you like it.

(I know I'll get flames for posting this about screenshots but just have to ;) )

I think your images are very greenish.

It seems to me that at low IREs your PJ is very greenish. At high IREs the PJ is much better.

Are the images accurate (color wise) when you see them on the screen?
Do the dark images look so greenish? if yes, you need to calibrate your PJ.

I'm sorry to enter in your Blendzilla Meeting, where i would be, but with the only Tim's Marquee 9500 LC Ultra i've obteined these images.

At the first these are the images that came from Toshiba HD XE1 via HDMI to the Marquee.
King King HD- DVD....


I put them under you qualified judgement.
I hope you like it.

William,
I notice "food?" against my name. I am up for it!
Anything particular people are craving for?

By the way, my wife is a good cook, anybody likes Indian food?

(although, I havent asked her yet :eek: ) ;) ;)

Dear All;

It is time for the weekly East Coast BlendZilla Meet Attendance List maintenance.

Following is my best current guess as to who is coming:

William (the host), plus wife (Cheryl)
Mike Parker (with Video Chain magic, super VIMs, super neckboards, setup, lowly 8" Marquee)
Mysterious Analog Way VP
Clarence (with HD DVD, Bluray, DTheater, HTPC sources)
Gino and Jessica
NauticaL
Wallace123456 (Wallace) (with BBQ, Victory Beer(?), Beef Jerky, Margaritas(?))
Belcherwm (Bill) (helping Wallace with the Victory Beer)
Ecrabb
Emdawqz1 (John) (with Beef Chili, hot wings, mild wings, etc.)
Z-Photo
JBJR (John) (with 1080P video cables, setup)
Overclrckr (Cliff) (with Beef Jerky, BBQ(?))
Bomrat (Arli)
rajdude (with food (?))
Audiophil (with food (?))
Ken Whitcomb (with color calibration)
Bruce Can ?
Mark Conner
Mark Haflich
MadHatter ?

Bill Lackner (and Jackie)
CRT Ben (and Cheryl)
Edie Sears
Allen1994
Gary Murrell ?

beerbujt (Steve)

Curt Palme has been removed, and Steve (beerbujt) has been added.

I am about to post in the digital projector forum, in a kind and humane way, inviting anyone who would like to come and see CRT at the pinnacle of its current capability. I will also ask if anyone would like to bring a JVC RS1, for comparison purposes.

Mark H, we can start the Sunday Meet any time. Lets set an 11:00 AM start time now, and discuss it on Saturday at the Meet.

William

(I know I'll get flames for posting this about screenshots but just have to ;) )

I think your images are very greenish.

It seems to me that at low IREs your PJ is very greenish. At high IREs the PJ is much better.

Are the images accurate (color wise) when you see them on the screen?
Do the dark images look so greenish? if yes, you need to calibrate your PJ.

Sir,
in this thread you speak about two proj in stack with the help of Blendzilla.
The only reason of my post is to display images that came from one only proj to show the details of my system.
In this case i have a Nikon D50 that have only the ISO 200 minimum regulation.
After it doesn't register really the colour that i normally see. So the images appear as based on green colour.
Thanks for your judgement.

Hello

Very crisp in detail, nice work!!!!!! :D

Hello Tim,
i'm glad for your compliments.
Really i'm searching for more brightness. I'm working on the G2 blue level and on the blue drive to have a bright image vìbut in the same time a very black.
Best Regards

In this case i have a Nikon D50 that have only the ISO 200 minimum regulation. After it doesn't register really the colour that i normally see. So the images appear as based on green colour.
Thanks for your judgement.

It's going be difficult to reproduce the exact colors, so we tend to look at the things that you did show well, and that's the detail.

However, when going after detail try and bring out background detail, because that is when you get into the performance of your system. Anything up close is always easy, mainly because foreground scenes require very little bandwidth to reproduce.

Since you have KONG. Take a look at the scenes I have in the images (chapter number showing), and post back those of similar scenes to capture background detail.

btw, what rate were your images taking at. The ones with the Terenex looks really good to not be HD.


http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7483/hpim1748cx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1218/hpim1750rb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/2440/hpim1751hs3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks Mike!
I will practice your words.

Thanks Mike!
I will practice your words.

It's not going to be easy, but stay with it and you should get better results. If you'll feel better not posting in this thread, you can post them over on the "screenshots" thread that I started on Curt's site.

I'll post them again. I've removed one and added another, this one is from Chapter 32


http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4074/hpim1750vg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9632/hpim1749gu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3439/hpim1748ma7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7589/hpim1746px9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry Mark, your negativity can't pull us down :p :D We already have this planned out. We will be using a Ultra high bandwidth MP moded Marquee switcher :eek: :cool: ! So, we will only need one of each, plenty of inputs to play with. Oh, and you know Mike he'll take care of any input source to get it right :D !




Not to cast a negative, but speaking as one who has hosted a few of these and attended a few others, it will be next to impossible to experiment with the wide variety of sources, processors, and inputs planned for this meet. In order to correctly set up and calibrate things, everything must be in place. You can't willy nilly unplug and change things. Everything changes. You must set up each source, each input yada yada and then create a memorary and then one for each resolution. Just calibrating all this stuff would take days and Ken W's bill would be absolute black (out of sght). remember you will need two Moome casrds because there will be two projectors. Wanna set one up for the card and another for the box? Not me. I think you will quickly find out the need to simplify if one is trying to show what two projectors and a Blendzilla can do. My bet is that moome's stuff will not be ready in time and if it blows something, we may just end up slamming beers and getting lap dances.

Hello

DVX source setup takes maybe five minutes each, eight in, another switcher just makes it harder....... :D

I'll post them again. I've removed one and added another, this one is from Chapter 32

Oh my God Mike. Those look like horse crap.

Let me dig up a couple for you:

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff43.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff45.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff44.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff42.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff41.jpg

Oh hell yeah. ;) :D

G90 mod what???? ;)

Remember guys, the UTMOST attention at this point MUST be applied to the picture in the meet (total light control) AND the forum.

The fun begins. MUST MAKE SURE THAT KEN TAKES CARE OF THE SETUP! :p :) :D

Cliffy

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff23.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff34.jpg

;) :D ;) :D

Cliffy

I love the "cat that ate the canary" grin on that guy standing next to Mr. Incredible!


Ken Whitcomb

I love the "cat that ate the canary" grin on that guy standing next to Mr. Incredible!


Ken Whitcomb

Look damn hard at those pretty pictures you made big dog. Simply stunning!

What a great time we had. ;)

Here we go again!!!!!

Make them phosphors look pretty! :D

Can the Marquee do it?????

Cliffy

Crap, now must drop the screen shots!

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff02.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff04.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff12.jpg

Get on the bus guys!!!! Here we go!!!!!! :D

Cliffy

:D ;) :D ;)

http://crtforum.com/img/cliff06.jpg

DROP DA BOMB! :p

Cliffy

Oh I am so ITCHING at this point to jump on the plane. Cant wait.

Mike, do your magic. Let's see you and Ken make pretty pictures big dog. it's a must.

BTW, those screen shots looked BETTER in PERSON! :D

Cliffy

Oh my God Mike. Those look like horse crap.

Let me dig up a couple for you:


my my Cliff, you're trying to turn this into a which is best contest. For which that was not my intent here. but since you would like to do something comparable, post some that's showing detail in the backgrounds, because that's what those last ones were all about. And since it's also showing the chapter numbers, why not duplicate what I've posted.. :)

No cartoons please. And you can't tell much with close ups, but while you're at it. Can you do another close up of Halle and John Travolta. You'll need to show those two with background detail. For some reason, you're not bringing out anything around their faces. And the rim around Travolta's glasses seems to be showing a bit of digital sharpening. But I'm sure that's not the case here. But if you look very closely at it, there are sharpening lines in some places in that image.

Here take this one for instance. Notice how you're able to see everything around the face, and compare the eyeglass rim as well:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9056/hpim1624pv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And while you're at it, let's see that SMPTE pattern. And let's see it at 1920x1080P @ 72hz.

I'm planning to show this at the meet. That's being done from an 8" AC Marquee..
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/229/hpim1458sq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And here's something from my shoot-out CD, that's also at 1920x1080P @ 72hz Here we're showing that the projector is not only maintaining sharpness through-out that image, it's also maintaining very deep blacks, for which is usually lost if not using a VERY high bandwidth video chain at 1080P / 72hz

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8339/hpim1670og6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And I'm glad you also have an HTPC. Here's one of my desktop. It's at 1920x1440P @ 72hz

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7649/hpim1382il8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Now, back to why I'm posting the screen-shots that I've been posting. I'm only showing bandwidth challenging images, which is very difficult to show the results in screen-shots. So that's why it's good to be able to also show what this looks like at the meet.

I gotta run. I have a Barco blend to tweak one of the projectors this morning. Hopefully when I get back, you'll have more screen-shots for me.. ;) :)

NO CARTOONS!

Mike,
You gotta post some animated pics for comparison man !
Those cartoon pics (from Cliff) look mighty impressive to me!


And Cliff,
I gotta say this (and I am sure lots of people would be offended here and probably think I am mad! :eek: )
Why dont I see too much shadow detail in real world / movie shots (NOT cartoons) every time I see a G90? That is supposed to be the best PJ right?
I am NOT just talking about these screenshots...I am refering to my personal experiences about actually seeing pics projected by a G90.


I have seen two of the best setups and both times I did not see much shadow detail. For example, someones black jacket simply becomes a fat blob of really black area!

The best explanation I have heard is "because these guys prefer ultimate blacks" (and thus, end up sacrificing shadow detail)

(Flame suit on :o :o )

guys you have to understand these are just pictures, they represent about 25% of what you see in person, if that ;)

-Gary

Gary,
allow me to clarify my comment (if that is what you are refering to)
I was NOT talking about the screenshots...but to actually seeing pics on a G90.

guys you have to understand these are just pictures, they represent about 25% of what you see in person, if that ;)

-Gary

Gary, I think Rajdude Has seen this on live G90's not screen shots, but i agree about your screen shot statment. I cant get pics to look as good as my live set up and to get the right iso setting to represent the actual colors you see is a pain in the *ss !


Sending youa PM :D


Athanasios

my my Cliff, you're trying to turn this into a which is best contest. For which that was not my intent here. but since you would like to do something comparable, post some that's showing detail in the backgrounds, because that's what those last ones were all about. And since it's also showing the chapter numbers, why not duplicate what I've posted.. :)

No cartoons please. And you can't tell much with close ups, but while you're at it. Can you do another close up of Halle and John Travolta. You'll need to show those two with background detail. For some reason, you're not bringing out anything around their faces. And the rim around Travolta's glasses seems to be showing a bit of digital sharpening. But I'm sure that's not the case here. But if you look very closely at it, there are sharpening lines in some places in that image.

Here take this one for instance. Notice how you're able to see everything around the face, and compare the eyeglass rim as well:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9056/hpim1624pv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Woo hoo!!!! I knew that would get you going! :D :cool:

Tick Tock, Tick Tock, cant wait for the meet! :p

Cliffy

Here is some detail for you big dog:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/16.jpg

:eek:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/36.jpg

:eek: :eek:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/6.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/11.jpg

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/15.jpg

Muhwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! :p

Cliffy

Mike,
You gotta post some animated pics for comparison man !
Those cartoon pics (from Cliff) look mighty impressive to me!


And Cliff,
I gotta say this (and I am sure lots of people would be offended here and probably think I am mad! :eek: )
Why dont I see too much shadow detail in real world / movie shots (NOT cartoons) every time I see a G90? That is supposed to be the best PJ right?
I am NOT just talking about these screenshots...I am refering to my personal experiences about actually seeing pics projected by a G90.


I have seen two of the best setups and both times I did not see much shadow detail. For example, someones black jacket simply becomes a fat blob of really black area!

The best explanation I have heard is "because these guys prefer ultimate blacks" (and thus, end up sacrificing shadow detail)

(Flame suit on :o :o )

What is shadow detail? :D ;) :D ;)

Cliffy

Why dont I see too much shadow detail in real world / movie shots (NOT cartoons) every time I see a G90? That is supposed to be the best PJ right?
I am NOT just talking about these screenshots...I am refering to my personal experiences about actually seeing pics projected by a G90.


I have seen two of the best setups and both times I did not see much shadow detail. For example, someones black jacket simply becomes a fat blob of really black area!

The best explanation I have heard is "because these guys prefer ultimate blacks" (and thus, end up sacrificing shadow detail)

(Flame suit on :o :o )

Well no doubt I give up some shadow detail for the ability to get a much ,much more three dimensional image and total black outs. I have no gamma control presently so I'm one who finds this to be a great trade.

Oh ,and you are absolutely right, it is the best projector. :D

Art

You just can't bring a G90 up to the PQ level of an extreme modded 9500LC ultra. Its a question of bandwidth. The Marquee video pathway is a VIM and three neck boards. A real simple pathway. Easily moddified with the latest and greatest chips and parts. i've seen em both. The G90 si nothing to sneeze at, but the 9500LC can be taken to a whole other level.

Mark, you're making me drool... I need my boards Mike! ;)

Why dont I see too much shadow detail in real world / movie shots (NOT cartoons) every time I see a G90? That is supposed to be the best PJ right?

I am NOT just talking about these screenshots...I am refering to my personal experiences about actually seeing pics projected by a G90.

I have seen two of the best setups and both times I did not see much shadow detail. For example, someones black jacket simply becomes a fat blob of really black area!Well no doubt I give up some shadow detail for the ability to get a much ,much more three dimensional image and total black outs. I have no gamma control presently so I'm one who finds this to be a great trade.

Oh ,and you are absolutely right, it is the best projector. :D

ArtRajiv,

Moome's gamma really made a huge improvement.

The other thing is to make sure that you watch those low-IRE scenes in a total light-controlled mode, with your eyes adequately adjusted. With any lights on in the room, the dark shadow details can get lost in the ambient light.

"Batman Begins" HD-DVD:

http://crtforum.com/img/batman2.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/batman3.jpg

http://crtforum.com/img/batman4.jpg


James Taylor tribute HD-DVD:

http://crtforum.com/img/jt4.jpg

Well no doubt I give up some shadow detail for the ability to get a much ,much more three dimensional image and total black outs. I have no gamma control presently so I'm one who finds this to be a great trade.
Art

Well, guys look at my images very closely. And please note that screenshots do not represent the absolute best, but for some reason. My screenshots show excellent low end performance. And if you're able to see that in a screenshot, just imagine what it looks like in person..:D

And it does it without an additional gamma circuit. And it'll even do it without the PJ being calibrated for best black level performance.. :eek:

Check this out very carefully, and do note how distinct the images are. To include, everywhere that black is, you can see it.. ;)

1920x1080P /60hz
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6521/hpim1523ox7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1545/hpim1526iu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7860/hpim1544tk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2638/hpim1545fr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/599/hpim1546kj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7572/hpim1632yr9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Mike,
You gotta post some animated pics for comparison man !
Those cartoon pics (from Cliff) look mighty impressive to me!

Cartoons are just too easy to do, plus there's nothing about them that would reveal anything performance related. They present absolutely NO challenge what-so-ever for a high performance video system.

Tremendous screen shots Mike and certainly places where nothing touches a great CRT. So you can get total black out and not lose shadow detail.

A nice little test that Cliff and I have noticed. Get your HDDVD player look at the logo at the bottom right . You should see a clear distinct complete reflected looking image of the logo below the primary image.

Art

Everywhere black is you can see it? Rather, everywhere there is black there is an absence of light. You don't see it, therefore it is black, rather than you see black!

Everywhere black is you can see it? Rather, everywhere there is black there is an absence of light. You don't see it, therefore it is black, rather than you see black!


If you had a blue wall and you took a gallon of flat black paint and painted that wall black. Would that wall then be consider black, or absence of light?

And if absence of light. what happened to the black paint?

Where did the black paint go? It was used to cover the blue wall. Eliminating all color from the wall and leaving the absence of color which you perceive as black. You do not see any color, you see the absence of color, that is black. Bot don't worry, my wife won't like it and will want me to paint it purple tomorrow, and red the next day. :) MP. I'm spoofing.

And now a word from our sponsor....

Great news. Today Pixel Magic replied to my email from last week. They have offered to ship me a loaner Crystalio II 3800 Pro for the East Coast BlendZilla Meet. We will have what is probably the best current video scalar to run sources through, and perform interesting and revealing experiments with, in conjunction with what will be one of the finest Reference projection systems on the planet.

Gary, please continue to plan to bring your Crystalio II to the Meet. I have asked Pixel Magic to ship the loaner immediately. I will let you know when it arrives. If it does not ever arrive, I would still like you to bring yours, so we are certain to have one.

William

Let the screen shot wars continue.........

Let the screen shot wars continue.........


Nah, no screen shot wars. Just good times. :)

I'm really looking foward to seeing the setup!

Cliffy

Clarence,
Thanks for the tip...I am trying to get the new Moome now.

Hey this particular screenshot is very nice.

http://crtforum.com/img/batman2.jpg

This is much better than what I saw when I visited you last time , did you do something? Added the moome+gamma ckt?



And Hey! you HAVE to come over someday to see my Ampro. I'd love to hear your comments about it.
After what I have done to it recently (by Scott's help, of course) it looks awesome! :D

Rajiv,

Moome's gamma really made a huge improvement.

The other thing is to make sure that you watch those low-IRE scenes in a total light-controlled mode, with your eyes adequately adjusted. With any lights on in the room, the dark shadow details can get lost in the ambient light.

"Batman Begins" HD-DVD:

Mike,
your screenshots are impressive too.
And I totally agree with your take on the cartoons thing. I notice that real movie shots are so much more difficult to do.

Hey one more thing.
You may want to double-check your aspect ratio of the projected image. I feel your images are vertically squished.

got to bring out the tape measure. :)


Well, guys look at my images very closely. And please note that screenshots do not represent the absolute best, but for some reason. My screenshots show excellent low end performance. And if you're able to see that in a screenshot, just imagine what it looks like in person..:D

And it does it without an additional gamma circuit. And it'll even do it without the PJ being calibrated for best black level performance.. :eek:

Check this out very carefully, and do note how distinct the images are. To include, everywhere that black is, you can see it.. ;)

Tick tock, the clock goes on and we are OFFICIALY almost less than a week to go!

Most excellent that I am not HOSTING THE MEET!

Clifffy

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/15.jpg

Muhwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! :p

Cliffy

Muhwahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! :p

Mike, time to get your groove on!!!!!! ;)

Oh hell ya!!!!! Bringing the ultimate cam! :)

http://www.seriouspc.com/G90stack/11.jpg

Cliffy

I still like this one. At 1080P 72Hz, it simply amazes me that my lowly 8" Marquee can do so well with this image. Not perfect, but hey - It's an 8 incher.

What marvels me is that I'm able to clearly see the very top of the bridge (background), to include the far off lights off to the right of the bridge. At this resolution, these two things in the image should be blurry...

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8339/hpim1670og6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Here's another one of my favorites. The vertical size is off big time on this one, but again, so is the setup on the projector.

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/5362/hpim1602eq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Very very nice Mike!!!!! I think I'm going to have to get you drunk and take advantage of you when I come out. :^)

(just kidding)

Cliffy

Mike, I have to say that as far as engaging quality screen shots you are the king ! That eye picture is scary. I'm glad I can't see inside that SOB. :eek:

Art

I thought you straightened his teeth! :)

Today the SmX 12 foot wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio acoustically transparent screen kit arrived. Tomorrow, both the BlendZilla and the Crystalio II 3800 Pro are supposed to arrive.

Great days are soon upon us!

Here we go!!!! Cant wait!

Cliff

Here we go!!!! Cant wait! Cliff

I agree!!


Today the SmX 12 foot wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio acoustically transparent screen kit arrived. Tomorrow, both the BlendZilla and the Crystalio II 3800 Pro are supposed to arrive. Great days are soon upon us!

Are you gonna need any help getting all this stuff assembled/installed? Let me know.

wallace

Anyone know where to get 1/4 keg of Corona or any other type Mexican beer in the N VA area? We have Michelob on order, but would like to get some "South of the Border" type in honor of Cinco De Mayo.

pm me.

wallace

I am getting screenshot envy.. wish I could post some of my latest, but I am waiting until after the meet. Be on the lookout soon though for some from the 15 ft BlendZilla in spain :eek: :D :cool:

Dear Gino;

There is no need to wait. Please post the screen shots now.

William

I would, but I didn't bring my computer with me to Spain. I'm sure the 15' blend will be worth waiting for though. :)

The meet is one week away. How are things going with the set up itself ? I'm assuming with folks coming from so far etc that it's there to look at by now. Some pics of the set up etc for those of us not coming would be a nice gesture. :)

Art

Both the DVX-8022 BlendZilla and the Crystalio II 3800 Pro scalar were received yesterday, unpacked and are sitting in the Home Theater, waiting to be integrated into the system. Those wonderful people at Pixel Magic in Taiwan overnighted a brand new 3800 to me as a "loaner".

On Thursday, the 12 foot wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio SmX frame kit arrived. Last night, my lovely young wife and I put the frame together, and installed the screen material (which had arrived separately, weeks ago). Today the new screen will be hung (under the stockings with care.) Today also, major projector work commences.

Cliffy, its one day closer to brain frying time!

Guys!

Well, we are one week away now and the pieces are coming together. Many thanks to Mike Parker for his ingenuity and tireless efforts, to the volunteers who are pitching in to help for no money, and to William Kosmann for hosting this occupation of his house for the advancement of HT, and we expect he will soon be the owner of BlendZilla Number Four!!!!! WooHoo!!!

Both the DVX-8022 BlendZilla and the Crystalio II 3800 Pro scalar were received yesterday, unpacked and are sitting in the Home Theater, waiting to be integrated into the system. Those wonderful people at Pixel Magic in Taiwan overnighted a brand new 3800 to me as a "loaner".

On Thursday, the 12 foot wide 2.35:1 aspect ratio SmX frame kit arrived. Last night, my lovely young wife and I put the frame together, and installed the screen material (which had arrived separately, weeks ago). Today the new screen will be hung (under the stockings with care.) Today also, major projector work commences.

Cliffy, its one day closer to brain frying time!

Awesome! How do you like the screen?

Cliff

Here are a few pictures from Saturday's work.

First one is of William and Cheryl's screen construction efforts:


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/251/200704blendzillaeast000vz2.jpg

A couple of the other main attractions:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1990/200704blendzillaeast000kl9.jpg

Rear view:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5024/200704blendzillaeast000no1.jpg


JB and MP getting down to business:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2568/200704blendzillaeast001zc2.jpg

Interesting component in the rack:

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/4391/200704blendzillaeast001ou8.jpg

BIG Screen is hung:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5950/200704blendzillaeast001ix2.jpg

Time to get to work:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7357/200704blendzillaeast002fo3.jpg