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stupidassdrummer
01-25-07, 11:04 PM
:D I can not wait for the new movie "300" to come out! Is any one else excited to see the stunning visual effects in this movie? I have downloaded the trailer on my xbox360. It looks absolutly stunning in highdef. Hopefully warner brothers will release it on Blue Ray considering they produce in both HD-dvd and blue ray now. If you havent seen the trailer downloaded it on xbox360, or download it from the official website. It looks so sweet!

camaj
01-25-07, 11:09 PM
It's on the PS3's store too. I'm guessing you only get a 720p version on the 360? BTW, there's no e in Blu-ray

GamerGuyX
01-25-07, 11:32 PM
BTW, there's no e in Blu-ray

Amen.

xbdestroya
01-25-07, 11:34 PM
Yeah, it's definitely coming out on Blu-ray, since it's downloadable from the Playstation store as well. ;) (As are several other Warner titles)

jwv651
01-25-07, 11:41 PM
Downloaded 300 today...Man this looks to good to pass up. ;)

Dr Kain
01-26-07, 12:49 AM
The 300 will probably be the first movie on a Total HD disc.

UxiSXRD
01-26-07, 01:55 AM
I've had that trailer for a couple weeks now and it's great! Can't wait for the movie.

michael000
01-26-07, 02:18 AM
The 300 will probably be the first movie on a Total HD disc.

No "The" in the movie title and we can only hope not.

I'm holding out hope since it'll take about 4 months for The Departed to go from theatres to home video. If the same holds true for 300 it'd be due for a July release. Warner said they'd be releasing their first Total HD discs in the "second half" of 07' and exclusively on Total HD by end of year so while there's a good probability of a Total HD disc there's also some hope that we'll also have a choice of 2 seperate discs.

EDIT: and so i don't have to reply and defend my choice of not wanting to buy Total HD later on, the reasons i'm hoping for 300 on a Blu-ray only disc are that

1.) i really only want a 1 HD format future whether it be Blu-ray or HDDVD
2.) i despise flippers
3.) the box art is hideous

http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/1/1479/original.jpeg

Dahlsim
01-26-07, 03:17 AM
It's on the PS3's store too. I'm guessing you only get a 720p version on the 360? BTW, there's no e in Blu-ray

I downloaded both the 720p on 360 and the 1080p on PS3. Yes it's the 1080p version FTW.

dan0368
01-26-07, 08:22 AM
Was the trailer really grainy for anyone else?

ckenisell
01-26-07, 09:45 AM
Was the trailer really grainy for anyone else?
Not for me.

hacker-pschorr
01-26-07, 09:53 AM
Any movie with Nine Inch Nails in the trailer is worth checking out.

Bob Meridian
01-26-07, 09:54 AM
It better not be on THD. THD need to die quick so that we can go back to buying normal Blu-ray disks.

There is no need to charge 45 plus dollars for a HD-DVD side that noone is going to use.

Hopefully low sales numbers will convince them to go back to producing separate disks

Jiffylush
01-26-07, 09:54 AM
Was the trailer really grainy for anyone else?

I don't know if grainy is the right word.

It is very gloomy or overcast, and very stylized, that look is intentional.

chap
01-26-07, 09:56 AM
I love how people keep "discovering" 300. I swear it seems like we see another one of these threads every few weeks throughout the board over since last September.

Not that I mind, mind you. Its just amazing to me that its taking so long for some people to have seen his trailers.

Jiffylush
01-26-07, 09:58 AM
It better not be on THD. THD need to die quick so that we can go back to buying normal Blu-ray disks.

There is no need to charge 45 plus dollars for a HD-DVD side that noone is going to use.

Hopefully low sales numbers will convince them to go back to producing separate disks

Not really on-topic but...

THD helps Warner, they only make one disc and no matter which format wins they won't have to worry about discs that not selling in one format.

While I do think it is bad for the consumer if it costs more I don't think they will be going away anytime soon, unless there is a clear winner in the format war and that clear winner really starts moving some product.

donricouga
01-26-07, 10:10 AM
Was the trailer really grainy for anyone else?

The one i downloaded from the PS Store was a bit grainy, but the one I downloaded from apple.com and played on my ps3 wasn't as grainy.

Dr Kain
01-26-07, 11:02 AM
It better not be on THD. THD need to die quick so that we can go back to buying normal Blu-ray disks.

There is no need to charge 45 plus dollars for a HD-DVD side that noone is going to use.

Hopefully low sales numbers will convince them to go back to producing separate disks

I agree about the flipper and price part, but I will use the HD-DVD side as I have both formats. Will you people stop being so anal!!

Jason Priestley
01-26-07, 11:12 AM
Screw 300...I just want Frank Miller's Sin City in HD now!!!!!! with lossless sound!!!!! I've seen Sin City on HD Starz and even that looked great. Imagine how good it will look and sound on either blu-ray or hd-dvd!

But yes, the 300 trailers on both the xbox 360 and ps3 look mighty nice.

nyg
01-26-07, 11:32 AM
Well Mr. 90210, I want both 300 and Sin City on BD now!! :)

stupidassdrummer
01-26-07, 12:02 PM
sorry for my original post and misspelling blu-ray*. I do have a question though i will be getting my ps3 soon but for now I am using my xbox360. When i get my ps3 i will play my games in 720p becuase that is my tv native resolution and 1080i lags my games down. For movies since they are ran at a slower fps is it worth it to change my resolution to 1080i, or keep it at 720p? wich one shows a better picture?
thanx

Kris Deering
01-26-07, 12:15 PM
It better not be on THD. THD need to die quick so that we can go back to buying normal Blu-ray disks.

There is no need to charge 45 plus dollars for a HD-DVD side that noone is going to use.

Hopefully low sales numbers will convince them to go back to producing separate disks

This won't happen. If a title comes out only in THD, people are going to buy it anyways. If that is all that is available and someone wants the title, they are going to buy it however they can get it. Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?

provenflipper
01-26-07, 12:33 PM
sorry for my original post and misspelling blu-ray*. I do have a question though i will be getting my ps3 soon but for now I am using my xbox360. When i get my ps3 i will play my games in 720p becuase that is my tv native resolution and 1080i lags my games down. For movies since they are ran at a slower fps is it worth it to change my resolution to 1080i, or keep it at 720p? wich one shows a better picture?
thanx

As of right now the PS3 only outputs movies at 1080i/p or 480i. So 720 isn't selectable for movies.

UxiSXRD
01-26-07, 01:07 PM
This won't happen. If a title comes out only in THD, people are going to buy it anyways. If that is all that is available and someone wants the title, they are going to buy it however they can get it. Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?

I'm (so far) passing on several HD-DVD combo titles I do want right now. THe only I do have (Miami Vice) was a gift (my better half saw me pick it up every time we went to Best Buy, but then put it back). It's the principle of the matter!

LOTR will be hard to resist... unless it's the theatrical cut, which makes it much easier to go back to my DVD EE's...

foots
01-26-07, 01:28 PM
Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?

Yes

I'll be patient and buy it when it is rereleased on the winning format. If it is truly a great film I'll rent it but I won't buy a THD movie. Period. I'm probably in the minority however.

ckenisell
01-26-07, 01:29 PM
DO we know that the specs of a TotalHD disc are yet? How are the layers? Are they BD50?

polyh3dron
01-26-07, 01:33 PM
Was the trailer really grainy for anyone else?

Oh my GOD it's FILM for God's sake!!!! OF COURSE it's grainy!!

michael000
01-26-07, 01:35 PM
This won't happen. If a title comes out only in THD, people are going to buy it anyways. If that is all that is available and someone wants the title, they are going to buy it however they can get it. Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?

I'd be pretty torn on buying 300 on THD, i haven't been this hyped about a movie in a very long time. I'll let you know for sure after March 9 how strong my resolve is :p. The only THD release i know for sure i'd break for is American History X (it's New Line, and one of my top 5). I could easily boycott anything else. Don't get me wrong there are plenty i'd like to own, but on principle i could wait.

I really don't sit and watch that many movies on disc format to be honest, if i do it's cause i have a new movie or it's cause i can't find anything on TV to watch so i'll pop one in. I'd say my TV is used: 80% regular TV, 15% gaming, 5% DVD/Blu-ray.

DO we know that the specs of a TotalHD disc are yet? How are the layers? Are they BD50?

Yes it can be done, WB's previous releases though have been BD25 (as opposed to HDDVD 30). I might have given WB the benefit of the doubt on THD if they'd been giving both equal treatment (quality wise) in the past but till they prove they're pushing BD as hard as HDDVD they get no free passes with me. Guess we can only see how serious they are when The Departed is released next month.

polyh3dron
01-26-07, 01:37 PM
sorry for my original post and misspelling blu-ray*. I do have a question though i will be getting my ps3 soon but for now I am using my xbox360. When i get my ps3 i will play my games in 720p becuase that is my tv native resolution and 1080i lags my games down. For movies since they are ran at a slower fps is it worth it to change my resolution to 1080i, or keep it at 720p? wich one shows a better picture?
thanx

The PS3 doesn't do any scaling like the 360 does so you don't really have a choice in what resolution your games or movies play in. Games designed for 720p will play in 720p and games designed for 1080p will play in 1080p unless your TV doesn't support it in which case it will play it at 1080i. Blu-Ray movies will play in 1080p if supported by your TV or 1080i if 1080p is not supported. All you can do is tell your PS3 which resolutions your TV supports.

Gekkou
01-26-07, 01:44 PM
DO we know that the specs of a TotalHD disc are yet? How are the layers? Are they BD50?
HD30 on one side, BD50 on the other. I'm quite sure that's what Warner said.

Kruly
01-26-07, 01:56 PM
Oh my GOD it's FILM for God's sake!!!! OF COURSE it's grainy!!
It's the Lucas effect, all the movie should cost 300 mil, be computer generated and have all their picture defect digitally reworked, frame by frame!

Movies theses days are really pieces of art when we look at them. It clear when you look at extra feature that were cut from the movie and you see what it look like at the start!

I can't believe how great the 300 preview look, with a nice music from NIN too.

hmurchison
01-26-07, 02:03 PM
Funny thread. A bunch of movie lovers that are going to forgo on the movies they love for some silly philosphical reasoning?

I don't know if 300 is going to be a THD disc. Warner still has to prove that it can be done efficiently and the disc is stable.

300 looks like it'll be a fun movie. I'm not expecting Oscar level performances here but a little flight of fancy with a loosely (in the loosest sense of the word) based story about a real event.

Historians ..take off your thinking caps. There's going to be a whole lot of artistic license painted on this one.

michael000
01-26-07, 02:13 PM
Funny thread. A bunch of movie lovers that are going to forgo on the movies they love for some silly philosphical reasoning?

I don't know if 300 is going to be a THD disc. Warner still has to prove that it can be done efficiently and the disc is stable.

300 looks like it'll be a fun movie. I'm not expecting Oscar level performances here but a little flight of fancy with a loosely (in the loosest sense of the word) based story about a real event.

Historians ..take off your thinking caps. There's going to be a whole lot of artistic license painted on this one.

Don't get me wrong i'll be going to the movies to see this, i'm just on the fence on whether or not i'll buy it in an HD format (i may even just end up buying it on DVD to tide me over, i'm odd like that lol).

As for artistic license, it is afterall based directly (almost page to frame) on Frank Miller's graphic novel 300, i doubt that this movie was ever greenlighted to be historically accurate :D.

dan0368
01-26-07, 02:27 PM
It's the Lucas effect, all the movie should cost 300 mil, be computer generated and have all their picture defect digitally reworked, frame by frame!

Movies theses days are really pieces of art when we look at them. It clear when you look at extra feature that were cut from the movie and you see what it look like at the start!

I can't believe how great the 300 preview look, with a nice music from NIN too.

Excuse me for asking a question. I asked because some scenes looked great and others did not. Wow, I didn't realize I was so out of line... *rolls eyes*

TheAxeMurderer
01-26-07, 02:43 PM
I saw it in 1080i on my PS3 and some scenes look really good. It's going to be top tier 1 or even tier 0 grade when it's released on Blu-ray.

sb1
01-26-07, 08:35 PM
This is the coolest trailer I've seen in a long time. It's probably the only one in recent memory that actually made me want to see a movie without waiting for reviews. I can't wait for this one.

stupidassdrummer
01-27-07, 06:08 AM
can someone tell me what the song is in the trailer? I know its NIN but i dont know what song it is.

sa
01-27-07, 09:02 AM
'Just Like You Imagined' from The Fragile album.

nilsp
01-27-07, 09:13 AM
LOTR will be hard to resist... unless it's the theatrical cut, which makes it much easier to go back to my DVD EE's...

They are... :(

rdjam
01-29-07, 09:55 PM
Has a bluray release date been announced for "300" yet?

Esox50
01-29-07, 10:37 PM
Has a bluray release date been announced for "300" yet?
It's not even out in the theaters for another 6 weeks. Just because some preliminary plans for France have been leaked and then removed, you think WB is going to start announcing releases for films before they hit the theaters? Do you know if the movie is any good?

What's next? WB is going to announce the releases of the Dark Knight (2008) next week for HD DVD and BD on October 28, 2008? :rolleyes:

gand41f
01-30-07, 01:57 AM
The PS3 doesn't do any scaling like the 360 does so you don't really have a choice in what resolution your games or movies play in. Games designed for 720p will play in 720p and games designed for 1080p will play in 1080p unless your TV doesn't support it in which case it will play it at 1080i. Blu-Ray movies will play in 1080p if supported by your TV or 1080i if 1080p is not supported. All you can do is tell your PS3 which resolutions your TV supports.

Not quite true. Please go search in the PS3 forum, there are a few dozen threads answering the same question.

sigh
gandalf :o

joerod
01-30-07, 05:27 AM
I can't wait to see this one. Of course I will wait to see it in HD... ;)

Earz
01-30-07, 06:45 AM
This won't happen. If a title comes out only in THD, people are going to buy it anyways. If that is all that is available and someone wants the title, they are going to buy it however they can get it. Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?

According to a poll here at AVS....yes....the vast majority will not buy THD....and there are zero titles that would get me to buy one if they cost 1 penny more street than current BD titles.

The masses don't want to pay current prices for HD software....and THD will actually hurt mass adoption assuming higher pricing.

What is needed are cheaper than current prices....not higher pricing....and one format will also help adoption rates by the masses.

THD will offer neither.

We need to look at this from a masses perspective instead of the current less than nitchie market perspective IMO.

jim_r
01-30-07, 07:00 AM
THD will turn people from buyers into renters.

rdjam
01-30-07, 11:02 PM
It's not even out in the theaters for another 6 weeks. Just because some preliminary plans for France have been leaked and then removed, you think WB is going to start announcing releases for films before they hit the theaters? Do you know if the movie is any good?

What's next? WB is going to announce the releases of the Dark Knight (2008) next week for HD DVD and BD on October 28, 2008? :rolleyes:
"Leaked"?

It's still on their site and they've reformatted it to be even clearer. Looks like a proper release to me?

Do you have any evidence that this was a "leak" or was that just your opinion?

Esox50
01-30-07, 11:14 PM
"Leaked"?
Is this a press release from WB? Or a fansite that got some preliminary retail information? If it's not a WB press release, then it's leaked information.

I don't read french. You are correct though, I thought for sure the other day I clicked through and the info had been removed. Apologies for that oversight on my part. I'm getting old. :D

chap
01-31-07, 12:25 AM
It was announced for an HD-DVD release I believe in france for September so perhaps if its going to be on Blu-Ray it will be around the same time period.

rdjam
01-31-07, 01:39 AM
Is this a press release from WB? Or a fansite that got some preliminary retail information? If it's not a WB press release, then it's leaked information.

I don't read french. You are correct though, I thought for sure the other day I clicked through and the info had been removed. Apologies for that oversight on my part. I'm getting old. :D
heh :) No probs. Je ne parle pas la Francais tres bien, neither. :)

michael000
01-31-07, 02:33 AM
It was announced for an HD-DVD release I believe in france for September so perhaps if its going to be on Blu-Ray it will be around the same time period.

I'll be shocked if it's released in September since we always get movies before everyone else. A worldwide release just doesn't seem likely. Also WB seems to have adopted a possible sched for new releases. The Departed and Happy Feet are set for release 4 mos + 1 week after theatrical release (guess we'll see if that holds true for future titles).

polyh3dron
01-31-07, 04:40 AM
I saw it in 1080i on my PS3 and some scenes look really good. It's going to be top tier 1 or even tier 0 grade when it's released on Blu-ray.

As with all Warner releases though, HD-DVD will hold this release back from being all it could be on BD. Look at what Disney is doing with their high-bitrate VC-1 encodes. They look amazing every time.

chap
01-31-07, 08:41 AM
I'll be shocked if it's released in September since we always get movies before everyone else. A worldwide release just doesn't seem likely. Also WB seems to have adopted a possible sched for new releases. The Departed and Happy Feet are set for release 4 mos + 1 week after theatrical release (guess we'll see if that holds true for future titles).

Well the movie launches in March so that gives it 6 months for a dvd release from the original release date. I think thats a bit fast as well, but its not the first time.

It may be that fast because its easy to transfer over due to how it was shot. Just a guess.

michael000
01-31-07, 11:26 AM
Well the movie launches in March so that gives it 6 months for a dvd release from the original release date. I think thats a bit fast as well, but its not the first time.

It may be that fast because its easy to transfer over due to how it was shot. Just a guess.

Well my shock will be if it actually launches in Sept because that would be slow IMO (for what they release disc releases at nowadays). Blood Diamond is actually set for a 3 1/2 month time frame from theatre to BD/HDDVD release (if the thread here is correct). I'm actually expecting a mid-late July release for 300 :p.

TheAxeMurderer
02-13-07, 02:51 PM
IGN.com posted an early review of 300. They absolutely loved it, giving it a perfect 5 out of 5 stars. Based on my early impressions(PS3 preview), the PQ is top notch.

So..........Awesome PQ + Awesome Movie = :D Happy Blu-ray supporter

I can't wait!

joerod
02-13-07, 03:19 PM
I just want it out now! Screw the movies! :)

nharmon91
02-13-07, 03:22 PM
Eh it looked like ass on my PS3, there were 2 HD choices maybe I picked the wrong one. Though the movie is gonna kick ass, no doubt about that.

TheAxeMurderer
02-13-07, 03:52 PM
Eh it looked like ass on my PS3, there were 2 HD choices maybe I picked the wrong one. Though the movie is gonna kick ass, no doubt about that.

I downloaded the 1080p version and watched it in 1080i on my 720p native tv connected through HDMI of course. *breathes*

michael000
02-13-07, 04:09 PM
If you're talking about grain then yeah the trailer is really grainy.

sholmes
02-13-07, 04:53 PM
Guys, on the topic of the historical accuracy of the film, you should really check out the wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae) for the historic battle that the film is based on. I know wikipedia isn't necessarily the model for accurate information, but anyone who has watched the trailer once will notice at least a few references to what is reported to have actually happened. But if you have watched both trailers (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/) 50 times and almost memorized them like I have, you'll begin to see that the trailers make many references to the reported history of the battle. So, maybe the movie is more historically accurate than some may think. Reading the entire wikipedia entry made me even more excited to see this movie.

Now, obviously there is the whole monster and magic and artistic license thing. But that doesn't mean the story can't still be accurate and, besides, I'm willing to put up with that if it is an enhancement to the story and not a basis for it (e.g. Original Star Wars trilogy vs. New Star Wars trilogy).

At the very least, whoever put the trailers together for this film has absolutely nailed what a trailer is intended to do.

ryoohki
02-13-07, 07:03 PM
300 use tons of Digitally Added Grain... it's evident from the Quicktime 7 h264 trailers... It's the same guy who wrote Sin City, so it's gonna be ultra stylised..

hassoon
02-13-07, 08:14 PM
This is one release I do NOT want to see TotalHD-fied :( .

Just give me a VC-1 encode with PCM and the works, with artwork to boot :) .

A July release date appoximately 4 months after theatrical release would be nice :D !

Emannikcufesin
02-13-07, 08:28 PM
the box art is hideous

http://www.highdefdigest.com/images/post/1/1479/original.jpeg

I couldn't agree more, it's a complete eye sore.

UxiSXRD
02-13-07, 08:30 PM
Definitely grotesque. Is that slip cover or the outside?

Hmerly
02-13-07, 09:07 PM
Wow, what kind of movie fans are you guys if you would let some silly philosophical difference prevent you from enjoying a great movie in high def on either BD or HD-DVD? I think you guys would be better off adopting another hobby if something minuscule like thd discs will make you swear off these movies.

michael000
02-14-07, 02:40 AM
Guys, on the topic of the historical accuracy of the film, you should really check out the wikipedia entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae) for the historic battle that the film is based on. I know wikipedia isn't necessarily the model for accurate information, but anyone who has watched the trailer once will notice at least a few references to what is reported to have actually happened. But if you have watched both trailers (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/300/) 50 times and almost memorized them like I have, you'll begin to see that the trailers make many references to the reported history of the battle. So, maybe the movie is more historically accurate than some may think. Reading the entire wikipedia entry made me even more excited to see this movie.

Now, obviously there is the whole monster and magic and artistic license thing. But that doesn't mean the story can't still be accurate and, besides, I'm willing to put up with that if it is an enhancement to the story and not a basis for it (e.g. Original Star Wars trilogy vs. New Star Wars trilogy).

At the very least, whoever put the trailers together for this film has absolutely nailed what a trailer is intended to do.

I said this earlier in the thread but 300 is based directly on Frank Miller's graphic novel 300, not historical acccounts. The monsters, hunchback, and whatever odd things from the trailer were all in the graphic novel. FM obviously isn't going to stray too far from the real event since it is such a great story, but of course he's going to add his own flair so it doesn't feel like you're reading from a history book. To let you know how closely they're following the GN check out these 2 pages from everyone's favorite "This is Sparta!" scene.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9976/screengrab1ye0uo2.jpg

Wow, what kind of movie fans are you guys if you would let some silly philosophical difference prevent you from enjoying a great movie in high def on either BD or HD-DVD? I think you guys would be better off adopting another hobby if something minuscule like thd discs will make you swear off these movies.

Well i'm not a "movie fan" and movie collecting isn't a "hobby" for me, i watch what interests me and buy the movies that i really enjoyed. Not everyone on this board buys every movie that comes out just because it has great PQ, AQ, or just to say they own them all :rolleyes:. Personally i have a gambling problem so i'd much rather blow my money on that lol.

As for the philosophical difference, your money is the only way you as a consumer can vote. I refuse to be force fed anything even if i can afford it. I'd rather choose the wrong side then to not choose anything and be told what i'm supposed to buy. If blu-ray goes tits up and HDDVD and totalHD become the standard then i'll happily buy them, for now though my money is only going to blu-ray.

Earz
02-14-07, 09:24 AM
Wow, what kind of movie fans are you guys if you would let some silly philosophical difference prevent you from enjoying a great movie in high def on either BD or HD-DVD? I think you guys would be better off adopting another hobby if something minuscule like thd discs will make you swear off these movies.

Check any available poll online on THD....nobody seems to want THD...along with more expensive discs...what don't you get about this?
It will hurt mass adoption...and without mass adoption...both formats will most certainly die off completely.

Yes...there are those that don't want the hd dvd side ported over to BD...rendering the BD as less than it could have been...and I agree with this also.
But the main reason I will never ever purchase a THD disc...is the extra cost that is sure to stop the masses from buying or adopting either format.

Enthusiast need to start thinking about the big picture here...instead of instant gratification that will hinder long term adoption IMO.

rdjam
02-14-07, 12:12 PM
Wow, what kind of movie fans are you guys if you would let some silly philosophical difference prevent you from enjoying a great movie in high def on either BD or HD-DVD? I think you guys would be better off adopting another hobby if something minuscule like thd discs will make you swear off these movies.
I agree. I think the biggest opponents of THD discs are some BD fans, who perhaps see THD as making it too easy for BD studios to start supporting both formats...

However, that said, I wouldn't want THD to end up causing delays to any releases on HD DVD because they are tied to problematic Bluray versions that aren't ready. Secondly, I think that they'd have to make sure that the pricing is equivalent to the other "single format" discs, or Combo discs, to guarantee success...

phansson
02-14-07, 12:18 PM
I agree. I think the biggest opponents of THD discs are some BD fans, who perhaps see THD as making it too easy for BD studios to start supporting both formats...

However, that said, I wouldn't want THD to end up causing delays to any releases on HD DVD because they are tied to problematic Bluray versions that aren't ready. Secondly, I think that they'd have to make sure that the pricing is equivalent to the other "single format" discs, or Combo discs, to guarantee success...

My take on the THD disc.

1. I will never use the HD DVD side.
2. I am sure it will be more expensive.
3. Why should BR limit itself to 25GB at the expense of HD DVD.
4. The cases are uglier than #$@.
5. I am sure that the box stores don't want to keep ONE more slow moving format.

What are the problematic blu ray versions you are talking about. Please back up your statements.

thehun
02-14-07, 12:25 PM
Not really on-topic but...

THD helps Warner, they only make one disc and no matter which format wins they won't have to worry about discs that not selling in one format.

While I do think it is bad for the consumer if it costs more I don't think they will be going away anytime soon, unless there is a clear winner in the format war and that clear winner really starts moving some product.

There is always Ebay for selling the "unwanted" format one.

rdjam
02-14-07, 02:38 PM
My take on the THD disc.

1. I will never use the HD DVD side.
2. I am sure it will be more expensive.
3. Why should BR limit itself to 25GB at the expense of HD DVD.
4. The cases are uglier than #$@.
5. I am sure that the box stores don't want to keep ONE more slow moving format.

What are the problematic blu ray versions you are talking about. Please back up your statements.
phansson - you have followed me in every thread today and have quite a flame war going at me in some of the others - so I'm not surprised to see you find a reason to post here also. You know exactly what I mean by the "problematic" Bluray titles here, since you have been making some quite "over the top" posts in other threads about the apparent BDJ issues.

I'd advise that you do not bring those arguments in here also and deliberately take this thread off topic. The issue is discussed in plenty of depth in the other threads.

michael000
02-14-07, 02:45 PM
I agree. I think the biggest opponents of THD discs are some BD fans, who perhaps see THD as making it too easy for BD studios to start supporting both formats...

Lol funny, if i had to bet, the 3 biggest reasons people don't want THD are: they don't like flippers, the box, or the price that the discs will cost (these are the reasons i'm against it). Besides your argument holds no weight since no blu-ray exclusive studio has agreed to use THD. Fox, Lionsgate, and Disney specifically said no and you know there's no way in hell Sony would. Try again.

Earz
02-14-07, 02:50 PM
My take on the THD disc.

1. I will never use the HD DVD side.
2. I am sure it will be more expensive.
3. Why should BR limit itself to 25GB at the expense of HD DVD.
4. The cases are uglier than #$@.
5. I am sure that the box stores don't want to keep ONE more slow moving format.


Exactly right...and the vast majority agrees with all of this....but added cost of two format discs will make mass adoption slow to a crawl....should be number 1 IMO.

rdjam
02-14-07, 03:42 PM
Lol funny, if i had to bet, the 3 biggest reasons people don't want THD are: they don't like flippers, the box, or the price that the discs will cost (these are the reasons i'm against it). Besides your argument holds no weight since no blu-ray exclusive studio has agreed to use THD. Fox, Lionsgate, and Disney specifically said no and you know there's no way in hell Sony would. Try again.
Whether a Bluray studio has agreed to use THD yet or not has no bearing on whether my opinion about why BD fans hate it so much is accurate or not, I'm afraid. It represents an incentive for other studios to support both formats with very little additional risk - in fact lower risk, since they will have twice the market for a given run size of discs.

I'll agree that price is definitely a factor. As I've opined, these discs will have to be sold at prices comparable to single format discs..

Stromprophet
02-14-07, 03:58 PM
Back on topic. This movie looks redunkuless. I cannot wait, less than a month to go. Very exciting.

phansson
02-14-07, 04:34 PM
Personally, I am looking forward to "300".

michael000
02-14-07, 05:14 PM
I'm probably going to take a long lunch the monday after release and check it out on the IMAX theater down the road. Pretty hyped since it'll be IMAX and since it'll be monday at noon there'll be a good chance i'll actually get to enjoy the "theater" experience and not have to put up with as many annoying movie goers (the cel talkers, kids, etc.) since the theater won't be packed like it would on a weekend.

WriteSimple
02-14-07, 08:23 PM
Hopefully when Warner releases this, it'll be on AVC.

As for TotalHD, let's see Universal starts releasing their titles first. ;)


fuad

Shug7272
02-14-07, 08:53 PM
This won't happen. If a title comes out only in THD, people are going to buy it anyways. If that is all that is available and someone wants the title, they are going to buy it however they can get it. Are you going to boycott every THD title? Are you willing to not own titles that you really want in HD?
I firmly believe that if HD DVD is not dead by Christmas it will only be alive in name only. At that point the Total discs will die. So yes I am willing to wait 4-6 months for a proper disc that doesnt cost an arm and a leg and has crap on there I personally will never use. If I am wrong then I will buy it off Ebay for a discount.

rdjam
02-14-07, 09:21 PM
For what it's worth, when 300 comes out on HD DVD, I'm definitely buying.

Esox50
02-14-07, 10:00 PM
For what it's worth, when 300 comes out on HD DVD, I'm definitely buying.
Good for you, now you can go to the HD DVD software section and talk about it over there with your handful of friends who remain and believe what you post. ;)

Earz
02-15-07, 06:47 AM
I'm probably going to take a long lunch the monday after release and check it out on the IMAX theater down the road. Pretty hyped since it'll be IMAX and since it'll be monday at noon there'll be a good chance i'll actually get to enjoy the "theater" experience and not have to put up with as many annoying movie goers (the cel talkers, kids, etc.) since the theater won't be packed like it would on a weekend.

I will most definitely be watching this one at IMAX...and I have never been bothered by any annoying movie goers once...even with sold out shows.

It seems your typical IMAX crowd is fairly well behaved...or mesmerized by the giant screen and superior sound. :)

AVBill
02-15-07, 10:39 AM
I don't know if grainy is the right word.

It is very gloomy or overcast, and very stylized, that look is intentional.

Actually, I think there is a great deal of noise in this transfer (enter all the "noise is actually grain, and should be preserved" fanboys).

The PS3 "300" trailer, is identical in content to the 360's "300 (number 2)" trailer. The PS3 trailer is encoded in AVC, and the 360's is presumably encoded in VC-1. For complex scenes, such as the rolling water with the ships, the 1080p PS3 clip clearly bests the 720p Xbox 360 clip. The greater resolution pays off here. However for simpler scenes (i.e. just a few soldiers fighting or yelling), the digital noise in the PS3/AVC clip is exhorbitantly more noticeable to me than the 360/VC-1 clip.

This seems to be a trend with AVC mastering so far. It seems to have more noise than VC-1 (a generalization I know) for film transfers. However, this is likely not a problem with the codec, or even the Blu-ray players. I suspect it is a problem with the maturity of the mastering software. Hopefully this gets better.