View Full Version : Flyboys - Go and buy now!!!


eightninesuited
01-30-07, 12:23 AM
I love this movie! Ok, the story isn't the greatest... but the cinematography is amazing and the dogfights are just superbly handled. The DTS HD MA track is nothing short of unbelievable! I regret not seeing it in theaters now. Oh well, my audio system is better anyways. Hehe. This is one of the few 1.5mbps tracks (since we can't hear DTS lossless yet) that rivals uncompressed tracks like Blackhawk Down or Pearl Harbour. It's also mixed a bit hotter than most Fox DTS tracks and you really feel the sound from everywhere during the fights! I love it!!

PS: Also, would anyone mind making an alternate cover for this movie. This poster is far more fitting than the official one.

http://63.134.216.171/hollywoodjesus/dev_cms/_assets/mp/8E7DDB72-B2A8-3A1F-FC7FD76F4882A616/flyboys.jpg
http://www.actuacine.net/2006/posters/flyboys.jpg

phansson
01-30-07, 12:33 AM
Ordered mine this weekend from amazon. Heard it was a crappy movie, but I am really looking forward to the dog fight sequences.

How was the PQ?

eightninesuited
01-30-07, 12:40 AM
PQ is really really good. I would say high tier 1.

aaronwt
01-30-07, 12:42 AM
I have it on my rental list. They need to drop the price from $27 to at least $23 before I buy it. I'll watch it this weekend along with the other 2 BD movies and 3 HD DVD movies I have planned to watch. My Girlfriend is going to Atlantic City to gamble for 6 days so I might as well enjoy some good HD.

Wendell R. Breland
01-30-07, 02:34 AM
How was the PQ?Peter M. Bracke of High-Def Digest gave it 4-1/2 Stars (Gave audio 4 Stars). Seems to be in line with eightninesuited's comments about PQ. I have this title in my queue.

shamus
01-30-07, 02:45 AM
Chad gave it a 5 out of 5. http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/dvd-review.php?sequence=1823

dad1153
01-30-07, 03:02 AM
Pass. Just from the trailer and TV commercials its easy to tell this is one of those movies with excess CG special effects trying to compensate for lack of an interesting story. Plus producer Dean Devlin ('ID4,' 'Stargate,' 'Godzilla,' etc.) is one of the principal financial investors in this project, so by avoiding plucking money for it (even as a DVD rental) I'm sticking it to Devlin for wasting about 12 1/3 hours of my life with some of those trashy corny flicks he's made over the years (particularly the God-awful 'Godzilla' remake).

ottscay
01-30-07, 03:14 AM
Ordered and shipped. Just wan dogfight sequences that deliver on the promise of the trailer and I'm happy. And fantastic PQ.

rcavictor1956
01-30-07, 06:21 AM
Sorry but I am not going to buy a movie for pq and/or audio reasons. If the movie is crap as someone above mentioned, I'll save my money. Anyone else see this movie who liked it? :cool:

sillysam
01-30-07, 09:42 AM
The DTS HD MA track is nothing short of unbelievable!

Which player are you using that can decode the DTS HD MA track? Or are you just getting the core DTS but think you are getting the MA lossless sound?

P.S. The movie is not very good. Don't care how good the sound might be, but I won't waste my money on a bad movie.

aaronwt
01-30-07, 09:55 AM
I didn't think any of the BD players could decode the DTS HD MA track? I thought all only decoded the core DTS right now.

Rusty James
01-30-07, 10:24 AM
The PQ may be aces but the movie is unwatchable crap.

jwv651
01-30-07, 10:29 AM
Another war/love story...Yawn.

Ian_Currie
01-30-07, 11:06 AM
Really looking forward to this one.

b.greenway
01-30-07, 11:09 AM
Sorry but I am not going to buy a movie for pq and/or audio reasons. If the movie is crap as someone above mentioned
Ditto, queued in Netflix though.

thewretched22
01-30-07, 11:44 AM
The PQ may be aces but the movie is unwatchable crap.
Yep, no mater how pretty it looks im not buying or renting it.

hobbs47
01-30-07, 12:04 PM
change title to "GO RENT NOW!" ;)

shamus
01-30-07, 12:05 PM
Which player are you using that can decode the DTS HD MA track? Or are you just getting the core DTS but think you are getting the MA lossless sound?

P.S. The movie is not very good. Don't care how good the sound might be, but I won't waste my money on a bad movie.
If you read his post you would see he says he is not getting it yet.

tkbryant
01-30-07, 01:25 PM
Yeah...if you don't want it then don't buy it. Like anyone on this site has never bought a "bad" movie for pic or sound quality. Whatever!!! People on this site love to bitch about anything and everything. Well with that out of my system......
The movie looks fantastic so far. I just skimmed the beginning and one dog-fight sequence. Makes you wish every movie was this 3D and sharp as a tack. The audio is just packed with surround effects with bullets and planes whizzing all around. Can't wait to watch later tonight. This is gonna be good demo material!!

HDKing
01-30-07, 01:29 PM
So shiny pooh is worth buying?

tkbryant
01-30-07, 01:41 PM
So shiny pooh is worth buying?


One mans poo.... ;) But seriously, movies are art and are totally subjectionable. I like my mindless summer popcorn flicks every now and then just like anybody else. Everything doesn't have to be a thought provoking film to be enjoyable to many.

Malcolm_B
01-30-07, 02:19 PM
As if Pearl Harbor was any better...will give it a rental.

Rusty James
01-30-07, 02:24 PM
As if Pearl Harbor was any better...will give it a rental.

Pearl Harbor was Oscar-worthy compared to this movie.

MSpeed6
01-30-07, 02:28 PM
and this is oscar worthy compared to Hulk.

nharmon91
01-30-07, 03:38 PM
Very true

Scott Lyons
01-30-07, 03:43 PM
Sorry but I am not going to buy a movie for pq and/or audio reasons. If the movie is crap as someone above mentioned, I'll save my money. Anyone else see this movie who liked it? :cool:


You do realize that you are in the HD section right,the VHS forum is somewhere else.

pteittinen
01-30-07, 03:52 PM
And here I was thinking people are buying movies for movies' sake, and not to squint at pixels for 90 minutes trying to find a flaw...

tkbryant
01-30-07, 03:59 PM
And here I was thinking people are buying movies for movies' sake, and not to squint at pixels for 90 minutes trying to find a flaw...

They do that on this site? ;)

Rusty James
01-30-07, 04:37 PM
and this is oscar worthy compared to Hulk.

What does the Hulk have to do with anything? Not that it was a good movie either or anything.

MSpeed6
01-30-07, 04:39 PM
the trend is crappier the movie, better the PQ.

quik99
01-30-07, 04:47 PM
You guys really crack me up with this bitching about what is/isnt a good movie. We are all rebuying these BD & HD-DVD movies for PQ and AQ alone. of the 150ish (give or take) movies available for both formats how many would realistically repurchased if their was no HD-DVD or BD's and it was a new special super better PQ dvd release? VERY VERY few alot of the movies out are crap so give the OP a break. We are buying these HD movies to make our HD tv's look their best and sound systems look their best. If all we cared about was a good story, u can tell a good story on VHS.

Rusty James
01-30-07, 09:00 PM
We are all rebuying these BD & HD-DVD movies for PQ and AQ alone.

Um, no.

Robert George
01-30-07, 09:08 PM
This is the most telling sign of the maturity of many internet posters, thinking the world revolves around them.

Here's a hint guys....

NOBODY CARES IF YOU THINK THIS MOVIE IS BAD. MAYBE IT IS YOUR OPINIONS THAT STINK. GET ANOTHER THREAD.

Rachael Bellomy
01-30-07, 09:25 PM
I don't care if Flyboys is a mediocre movie. It's about WW1 and there aren't all that many films on the subject, compared to most numbered wars... ;) There's not much I need on BD this month...I had to order somethin'! ;) Show me the way to the flying circus.

Esox50
01-30-07, 09:27 PM
This is the most telling sign of the maturity of many internet posters, thinking the world revolves around them.

Here's a hint guys....

NOBODY CARES IF YOU THINK THIS MOVIE IS BAD. MAYBE IT IS YOUR OPINIONS THAT STINK. GET ANOTHER THREAD.
You need to let this stuff roll off you Obi!!! I agree with you, but it's so beneath us that it's not really worth your wasting the time to comment (or shout given the caps) unless the mods decide to institute a no questions asked post removal and suspension regarding such threadcrapping. It's not going to stop unless that happens and you're wasting your time. :cool:

tlreddragon
01-30-07, 09:46 PM
This is the most telling sign of the maturity of many internet posters, thinking the world revolves around them.

Here's a hint guys....

NOBODY CARES IF YOU THINK THIS MOVIE IS BAD. MAYBE IT IS YOUR OPINIONS THAT STINK. GET ANOTHER THREAD.
Yeah... because your post just totally exudes maturity and class right?

And if "NOBODY CARES IF YOU THINK THIS MOVIE IS BAD" as you so eloquently put it, what makes you think people care if one person thinks it's good?? Plus with a thread title that includes "Go and buy now!!!" in reference to a movie that has been universally panned, I think it's more than appropriate to question the validity of that claim.

Bing
01-30-07, 09:48 PM
Yeah...if you don't want it then don't buy it. Like anyone on this site has never bought a "bad" movie for pic or sound quality. Whatever!!! People on this site love to bitch about anything and everything.

We all have purchased bad movies for A/V quality. But isn't about time the novelty wore off? Every week, without fail, there another crapfest-5star AV disc, only to be surpassed the week after. How many demo disks does one need?

Tom J. Davis
01-30-07, 10:28 PM
Yeah... because your post just totally exudes maturity and class right?

And if "NOBODY CARES IF YOU THINK THIS MOVIE IS BAD" as you so eloquently put it, what makes you think people care if one person thinks it's good?? Plus with a thread title that includes "Go and buy now!!!" in reference to a movie that has been universally panned, I think it's more than appropriate to question the validity of that claim.


You do realize who your talking to , right? Arguably one of the most respected members on any A/V forum.

On topic, I can't wait to watch this even if it is for the pq alone!!

eightninesuited
01-30-07, 10:54 PM
As I stated in my post, I don't think this is a very good film. I do however think it's great eye candy with some spectacular aerial scenes. It's basically a hollow popcorn flick. However, I do enjoy films that try to stay true to their period and I love airplanes, so maybe my enthusiasm was a bit overboard, but meh...

tlreddragon
01-30-07, 11:08 PM
You do realize who your talking to , right? Arguably one of the most respected members on any A/V forum.
OK :) I guess I didn't see the shrine as I entered.

maingon
01-30-07, 11:24 PM
Pass. Just from the trailer and TV commercials its easy to tell this is one of those movies with excess CG special effects trying to compensate for lack of an interesting story. Plus producer Dean Devlin ('ID4,' 'Stargate,' 'Godzilla,' etc.) is one of the principal financial investors in this project, so by avoiding plucking money for it (even as a DVD rental) I'm sticking it to Devlin for wasting about 12 1/3 hours of my life with some of those trashy corny flicks he's made over the years (particularly the God-awful 'Godzilla' remake).


ID4, Stargate were good movies, Godzilla had some cool moments leading up to you actually seeing the creature

AaronSCH
01-30-07, 11:51 PM
I can fully appreciate certified classics such as "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind" or "Lawrence of Arabia." However, there are also a large number of guilty pleasures that may be mind-numbing but enjoyable on some level. Both "Pearl Harbor" and "Fly Boys" have terrific visuals and not a whole lot else ...so what??? I cannot wait to see the aerial battles in Fly Boys again.

Rusty James
01-31-07, 12:12 AM
I can fully appreciate certified classics such as "Casablanca," "Gone With the Wind" or "Lawrence of Arabia." However, there are also a large number of guilty pleasures that may be mind-numbing but enjoyable on some level. Both "Pearl Harbor" and "Fly Boys" have terrific visuals and not a whole lot else ...so what??? I cannot wait to see the aerial battles in Fly Boys again.

That's the point: None of the movies you mentioned are available on Blu-ray. Instead, we get week after week of crap.

I'm all for guilty pleasures as much as the next guy - I genuinely liked Crank, for example - but when it's ALL guilty pleasures with nothing to go along with them, I start getting a little impatient.

The Departed cannot get here fast enough.

Rachael Bellomy
01-31-07, 12:21 AM
I've never felt guilty about pleasure.... ;)

phansson
01-31-07, 12:55 AM
I've never felt guilty about pleasure.... ;)

:eek:

tkbryant
01-31-07, 12:57 AM
I've never felt guilty about pleasure.... ;)

Touche', touche'!! ;)

Milt99
01-31-07, 01:19 AM
I've never felt guilty about pleasure....
LMAO!! A classic!
You know, some people just need to relax and put things in perspective like Ms. Bellomy here.
BTW, I enjoyed both Stargate and Godzilla.
How someone could "hate" movies like this I don't know.
False sense of self-importance or a lame attempt to appear discriminating.
I'd never even heard of this one til I saw an ad on TV. Looked kinda cool.
Maybe I'll buy a PS3 and check it out.
Not much happening on the HD DVD side right now since Warners is waiting for BD to get their BD-J sh!t together which is gonna take another 6 months if ever.

UxiSXRD
01-31-07, 02:25 AM
I got this one and was pleasantly surprised that the plot wasn't too bad. The PQ is outstanding, of course.

rcavictor1956
01-31-07, 06:37 AM
You do realize that you are in the HD section right,the VHS forum is somewhere else.

Nice post..... :rolleyes: Get a life. :cool:

patrick99
01-31-07, 06:43 AM
I watched the first 40 minutes last night and the PQ was indeed very nice. Hope that holds up for the remainder.

rcavictor1956
01-31-07, 07:06 AM
I watched the first 40 minutes last night and the PQ was indeed very nice. Hope that holds up for the remainder.

How did you like the movie for the first 40 minutes? I have yet to see the movie and the time period along with the theme of the movie interest me. :cool:

patrick99
01-31-07, 07:29 AM
How did you like the movie for the first 40 minutes? I have yet to see the movie and the time period along with the theme of the movie interest me. :cool:

It wasn't great, it wasn't terrible. There was one scene that seemed very implausible in terms of the characters doing something that you would have thought they would have had information not to do.

Rusty James
01-31-07, 11:04 AM
I've never felt guilty about pleasure.... ;)

You must be doing something wrong, then. ;)

Rusty James
01-31-07, 11:06 AM
False sense of self-importance or a lame attempt to appear discriminating.


Yes. This is exactly the reason why I don't like Flyboys. You got me.

Teisco
01-31-07, 11:39 AM
In my 60 years of life I have found that those that yell the loudest and protest the most are those that are really doing it in secret. So are you guys secretly watching bad movies on a laptop in the closet? Come on, admit it. Ok so you hate this movie (and maybe secretly like it but are ashamed to admit it) so what, what do I care if you hate it.

I am lucky in that I can watch all types of movies and be entertained. If I was so narrow minded as to limit my viewing to only those that so called critics proclaimed "classic, Oscar potential, socially redeeming" then I would have missed some of the best moments in some very un-socially redeeming films.

I loved Pear Harbor, why, because it reminded me of those great tacky 40's and 50's war movies, and because it was fun. You remember fun? I am sure I will love Fly Boys also because it looks like about an hour and a half of fun. Sure I will forget it until the next morning when I roll over in bed and see the Blu Ray disk case for it laying next to me and I shriek in horror but that's life.

quik99
01-31-07, 11:56 AM
We are all rebuying these BD & HD-DVD movies for PQ and AQ alone.


Um, no.

I'm sorry i'm confused.....why are we rebuying these movies if not for pq&aq? they are not better longer cuts than on dvd they dont have more special features (normally less)...OH its the pretty blue and red case's I LOVE colors!!!!! I wish they would make green its my fav color really!

Art Sonneborn
01-31-07, 11:58 AM
So, reference video ?

Art

Kris Deering
01-31-07, 12:14 PM
Easily a 5. Just about perfect in every way.

Rusty James
01-31-07, 12:22 PM
I'm sorry i'm confused.....why are we rebuying these movies if not for pq&aq?

Of course we're buying them for improved PQ and AQ. But not just that ALONE. In my humble opinion, the movie has to bear watching, too, at least a little tiny bit. If you like Pearl Harbor, that's one thing (and I totally respect that). But I can't imagine buying Pearl Harbor even if you can't stand it just because it looks great on your TV.

Anyways, this horse is long dead, so I will shut up. But this thread reminded me of one of my favorite things I've ever read online. This is *definitely* worth a click:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38626

:)

Rachael Bellomy
01-31-07, 12:29 PM
:eek:

Free your mind and your posterior will follow.... ;)

Steve S
01-31-07, 03:29 PM
In the early days of dvd there were a number of horrible films (Lost in Space, anyone?) that everyone bought for pq/aq alone. The same is happening now with the new HD formats-no surprise.

I didn't purchase Lost in Space but will admit to buying a few HD versions of movies I had seen and wasn't particularly fond of just because they were reputed to have killer pq/aq--U-571, Chronicles of Riddick, Monster House, etc.

I had vowed to myself to stop doing this, but after reading the review of Flyboys in HighDef Digest I decided to sin one more time. To my surprise this was a very good piece of escapist popcorn-flick-fun entertainment.

I do enjoy "Classic Cinema" but there are occasions when I just want to kick back after a hard day and have fun with a movie without any deep artistic moral or intellectual challenges. Flyboys manages to be this kind of film, and frankly I can't help thinking the haters wouldn't be so vehement if the thing'd been made by a Spielberg, Lucas or Jackson.

PQ and AQ are up there with the best of HD-DVD or BD as far as I'm concerned, something I was expecting as it was shot on HD video.

MSpeed6
01-31-07, 03:34 PM
I liked "lost in space" =(

it came free in my JVC dvd player with the Wedding singer.

Milt99
02-01-07, 12:41 AM
I bought King Kong and I felt dirty.

Easily a 5. Just about perfect in every way.
Wow a "just about perfect" from K. Deering.
Don't see that often :)

patrick99
02-01-07, 05:30 AM
How did you like the movie for the first 40 minutes? I have yet to see the movie and the time period along with the theme of the movie interest me. :cool:

I watched another large chunk and liked it quite a bit more. The PQ continues to be excellent.

rcavictor1956
02-01-07, 06:28 AM
I watched another large chunk and liked it quite a bit more. The PQ continues to be excellent.

Thanks....I'll take a look at this in the near future. At least rent it and go from there. :cool:

Ian_Currie
02-01-07, 12:16 PM
So I went to buy it yesterday and was horrified to realize it was a Fox release. I vowed never to pay Fox prices... but I was so psyched about getting this title that I broke my own rules. :-(

Just checked it out briefly, but it does look fantastic.

quik99
02-01-07, 12:39 PM
Its amazing what we have accomplished in this thread. We have BD and HD-DVD guys (gals?) actually coming together to pick sides on a issue and agreeing with fans of the opposite color format!!! I HAVE A DREAM!....... :cool:

ludeboy12
02-01-07, 10:41 PM
ya so i'm watching this movie right now and i love how good it looks. great transfer here. I actually think the movies not all that bad either.

methos75
02-02-07, 09:28 AM
I actually liked this movie, looking at some of the other crap on BD like Aeon Flux, Resident Evil, Into the Blue, etc, this film is like Gone with the Wind.

amillians
02-02-07, 09:50 AM
Ah, the movie that Larry Ellison invested $30 million in so his son could get a leading part. Total BO didn't break $15 million. Makes me feel a bit better for having gotten killed on ORCL in late 2002.

Man...I *love* schadenfreude!

patrick99
02-02-07, 10:36 AM
I actually liked this movie, looking at some of the other crap on BD like Aeon Flux, Resident Evil, Into the Blue, etc, this film is like Gone with the Wind.

So did I. Much better than Pearl Harbor, for example, to make an obvious comparison.

cdhender
02-02-07, 10:42 AM
I actually liked this movie, looking at some of the other crap on BD like Aeon Flux, Resident Evil, Into the Blue, etc, this film is like Gone with the Wind.

Hey, I liked Into the Blue :p

RaginCajun92
02-02-07, 12:59 PM
Hey, I liked Into the Blue :p

yeah, me too! Will be picking it up this weekend at BB with the BOGO Free deal. I thought it looked good in SD so HD will be fantastic!

Rieper
02-02-07, 03:44 PM
Hey, I liked Into the Blue :p

Jessica Alba is the sole reason for buying that movie.

She really looked great (ie. eye-candy bikini galore).

Flyboys is strictly a rental for me though...

Chako
02-02-07, 03:49 PM
In the early days of dvd there were a number of horrible films (Lost in Space, anyone?) that everyone bought for pq/aq alone. .

What?!? I liked Lost In Space. I've seen it about 7 times now and it never gets old to me.

Can't wait to see that on a HD format!

Teisco
02-02-07, 05:50 PM
Do the cg air scenes look washed out to you? On my lcd they do but the standard ground scenes look great and have contrast.

Art Sonneborn
02-02-07, 11:14 PM
Do the cg air scenes look washed out to you? On my lcd they do but the standard ground scenes look great and have contrast.

CGI had much less contrast than the live action, not your imagination. Fantastic looking and sounding title that, along with adequate acting and story, made for great entertainment for me.

For grain haters you will like this one. :)

Art

Teisco
02-03-07, 01:00 AM
Thanks Art, I wonder why they did not did that.

It is a great movie if you like flying movies. I have collected flying movies on vhs, dvd and now hddvd and blu ray. I hope they bring out the Mephis Bell soon, the dvd version was not a good transfer. Another I would like to have is the Rocketeer, my laser disc copy is getting old. And lets not forget the Blue Max and the Great Waldo Pepper. How about Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines and (this is one you might not remember) Always.

UxiSXRD
02-03-07, 02:20 AM
I liked "lost in space" =(

it came free in my JVC dvd player with the Wedding singer.

One of the 5 I picked with my Tosh SD-2109.

But yeah,after having watched the whole thing once and pieces of it several times, I do enjoy this movie. The visuals were great on a far underdone era (especially as opposed to WW2).

patrick99
02-03-07, 09:26 AM
Do the cg air scenes look washed out to you? On my lcd they do but the standard ground scenes look great and have contrast.

I agree; the ground scenes look excellent, much better than the air scenes.

theforce8686
02-03-07, 09:35 AM
I agree; the ground scenes look excellent, much better than the air scenes.

Its all a matter of taste. The ground scenes looked great to me but the flying and fighting scenes looked better.

nyg
02-03-07, 10:34 AM
Like others I've got this movie in my Netflix queue. No wonder it hasn't shipped yet. ;) Looks like it should be a reasonably fun film. With all the talk of this disc's great PQ I'm starting to think I should just go ahead and buy it. I too like Stargate and Godzilla.

Rachael Bellomy
02-03-07, 09:50 PM
I finally got to watch Flyboys last night. I think the critics who kicked this film so hard are a bit full of themselves. I thought it was a very realistic look at the perils of being a pilot in WW1.

The pic satisfied me. There were just enough extras to satisfy me too. I look forward to a re-viewing on down the line.

shazza
02-03-07, 11:18 PM
I actually liked this movie, looking at some of the other crap on BD like Aeon Flux, Resident Evil, Into the Blue, etc, this film is like Gone with the Wind.


Ouch, that hurt :p I actually liked Aeon Flux a lot. Probably because it was one of the first HD movies I watched. And, Into the Blue was mildly entertaining (this, from a gal's point of view ... so JA didn't do much for me). Just got Flyboys, and planning to watch it tomorrow.

tkbryant
02-04-07, 02:52 AM
I finally got to watch Flyboys last night. I think the critics who kicked this film so hard are a bit full of themselves. I thought it was a very realistic look at the perils of being a pilot in WW1.

The pic satisfied me. There were just enough extras to satisfy me too. I look forward to a re-viewing on down the line.

Same here. This movie should have done much better at the box office. Watched it with 2 friends, one who is rather picky...but we all enjoyed it and it makes for great eye and ear pleasure. Very happy with this one. I actually watched all the special features...definitely worth the money.

patrick99
02-04-07, 07:38 AM
Same here. This movie should have done much better at the box office. Watched it with 2 friends, one who is rather picky...but we all enjoyed it and it makes for great eye and ear pleasure. Very happy with this one. I actually watched all the special features...definitely worth the money.

I enjoyed it too. This is the first movie where I could actually understand why someone would pay James Franco to show up.

HobeyBaker
02-08-07, 09:15 PM
I just bought this today and I think it is neck and neck with Black Hawk Down, but a cut below Crank. Loved the flying scenes.

edit: I just ended up finishing the movie and I think it might have a little better pq than BHD. The scene where the Zeppelin blows up is incredible.

redjr
02-08-07, 11:02 PM
This is the most telling sign of the maturity of many internet posters, ...

Or, immaturity... :)

akosoft
02-21-07, 08:40 AM
After seeing the trailer i would like to order the Bd version of Flyboys, but...... does anyone now if it plays on a region B player? Many thanks! :)

DarkKnight2k4
02-21-07, 10:43 AM
I finally had the chance to sit down and watch this this weekend and I have to say I loved the experience. The PQ was great ! The sound was good too.

It was an enjoyable experience overall. I recommend it.

redjr
02-21-07, 10:56 AM
I finally had the chance to sit down and watch this this weekend and I have to say I loved the experience. The PQ was great ! The sound was good too.

It was an enjoyable experience overall. I recommend it.
Me too. Even though it was only in SD, I enjoyed it very much. Perhaps predictable, but nonetheless, still a good WWI period experience.

ThePrisoner
03-09-07, 06:06 AM
I just watched this last night, man o man, it has to be the best BD yet! I thought Crank looked incredible but I give the nod to Flyboys. Incredible DTS track also, probably will sound insane once DTS-HD decoding becomes available. :)

patrick99
03-09-07, 06:13 AM
I just watched this last night, man o man, it has to be the best BD yet! I thought Crank looked incredible but I give the nod to Flyboys. Incredible DTS track also, probably will sound insane once DTS-HD decoding becomes available. :)

Glad to see someone else who thinks Flyboys looks really nice. The results they got with the HD cameras were really outstanding.

asaturno
03-12-07, 08:24 AM
Bought this movie last week and watched it this weekend. I didn't know what to expect but was thoroughly amazed and impressed with it!! PQ, SQ, story all excellent.

Highly recommended! :D

Ralph Potts
03-12-07, 09:12 AM
Greetings,

I watched this for the second time and really thought the picture quality was just terrible................


NOT !!

Ok, sorry about that. I couldn't resist guys. I have to agree that the video and audio quality are reference material for sure. I thought the story was strong enough to be entertaining.


Regards,

Mr. Cinema
03-12-07, 09:19 AM
I bought the 2-disc dvd when it was released. Didn't pick up my PS3 until after that. If I like the movie enough, I think I'll upgrade to the BD. From what I've read here and other places, this is a film that takes full advantage of high-def audio/video.

Star56
03-17-07, 04:37 AM
?? Perhaps I am losing my mind...but I just picked this up...and overall I found this to be soft on the PQ side. This is not even close to being sharp as a tack.?? This isn't even close to many of my DVHS recordings or even my HDDVD's. Stargate is sharper than this.

What gives?? Where is the sharp 5 star PQ??? Casino Royale is sharper and much better looking that this disk?

Ian_Currie
03-17-07, 09:52 AM
I found it to be very detailed. However, it's a little on the dark side and if your display is weak in that area then maybe it won't appear sharp to you. Look for background detail - not necessarily foreground.

thebigdaddye
03-17-07, 10:17 AM
i watched this movie last week and overall it was pretty good movie. as far as pic goes it was pretty nice ,but not on the pic level of crank or tears of the sun. seemed to me to be soft in a lot of scenes. overall i would give it a 4 out of 5 for pic and 4.5 out of 5 for sound. when the pic was good it was very good ,but seemed to me there was a lot of soft scenes, which i think was done on purpose. sound wise like i said it was very good if not one of the best sounding blu ray so far ( minus NIN concert on blu ray ) anyway crank to me still has had the best blu ray pic so far that i have seen. just my 2 cents

patrick99
03-17-07, 10:18 AM
I found it to be very detailed. However, it's a little on the dark side and if your display is weak in that area then maybe it won't appear sharp to you. Look for background detail - not necessarily foreground.

Very detailed indeed, except for the aerial shots. However, the detail isn't as obvious as in something like Crank. The outdoor scenes at the girl's house are particularly nice, but most of the shots at the air field are also very nice. The scenes in the trenches are particularly outstanding.

talbain
03-17-07, 04:51 PM
Greetings,

I watched this for the second time and really thought the picture quality was just terrible................


NOT !!


too much borat for you i think...

eightninesuited
03-17-07, 05:35 PM
I remember when I first started this thread, people were ripping me for liking this film. Who's laughing now? It's a decent flick that didn't get the cudos it should've.

CriPPleR_HD
03-17-07, 05:49 PM
Some scenes where great other was not. Black levels had too much grain for my taste. IMO Crank had much better PQ. Flyboys was definitely not the best PQ I had ever seen. Thank god for netflix.

Dave Mack
03-17-07, 09:20 PM
There is some EE here and there and a few bits look a bit "digital" and harsh to me but overall pretty nice.
Buried inside is a very decent film that had alot of potential but I think it just was off somehwat. The actress playing the french girl girl did do some pretty decent acting and I enjoyed that part quite a bit. I totally dig Jean Reno and he is usually a pleasure to watch in films but here it really, really looks like he just showed up for the paycheck. His character was very one note as was his performance I felt.
By the time of the 4th or 5th dogfight it just seemed a bit long and redundant though.
Enjoyable and well made with some impressive CGI but definitely a "renter" for me.

Just my 2 cents.

:)

Star56
03-17-07, 10:35 PM
Some scenes where great other was not. Black levels had too much grain for my taste. IMO Crank had much better PQ. Flyboys was definitely not the best PQ I had ever seen. Thank god for netflix.

Some of the earlier posts suggested that this was reference material. From my perspective that's wacky. Unless they are watching on 42" or smaller display. AT 92" is is not the equal of many other BD or HDDVDs.

casper77
03-17-07, 11:24 PM
I already have. PQ is very good and the DTS is superb. I liked the movie also.

talbain
03-18-07, 12:32 AM
i thought the movie was pretty excellent. i enjoyed it quite a bit. sound and picture were superb...

CriPPleR_HD
03-19-07, 11:01 AM
Some of the earlier posts suggested that this was reference material. From my perspective that's wacky. Unless they are watching on 42" or smaller display. AT 92" is is not the equal of many other BD or HDDVDs.

I agree with you 100%. I also agree with Dave Mack, the french girl did a great job and Reno is always fun to watch but I seen so many better movies PQ wise then FB.

ajamils
05-16-07, 08:59 AM
i finally got around watching it last nigth....and I loved the overall experience. PQ is not Tier 0 level but still really good with lots of vibrant colors but the best thing about the movie is its AQ. Amazing sound effects during dog fights and explosions. The best part is the the audio keeps all the channels going throughout (almost) the movie.

Highly Recommended !!

Delta_FX
05-16-07, 10:41 AM
I watched the movie on Blu-ray a couple months ago, from Netflix.

Man, this movie sucks. It's really really bad. I wouldn't recommend this movie to anyone.

ajamils
05-16-07, 10:54 AM
I watched the movie on Blu-ray a couple months ago, from Netflix.

Man, this movie sucks. It's really really bad. I wouldn't recommend this movie to anyone.

I don't think we watched the same movie :rolleyes:

patrick99
05-16-07, 11:44 AM
I don't think we watched the same movie :rolleyes:

I saw the one you saw.

cdhender
05-16-07, 08:29 PM
I watched the movie on Blu-ray a couple months ago, from Netflix.

Man, this movie sucks. It's really really bad. I wouldn't recommend this movie to anyone.

I totally agree. I used to think that great PQ and AQ could save any movie. This movie proved me wrong.

I mean, even Crank was way better than this movie :D

ajamils
05-16-07, 09:17 PM
I totally agree. I used to think that great PQ and AQ could save any movie. This movie proved me wrong.

I mean, even Crank was way better than this movie :D

Crank is a better movie than flyboys ???? What are you smoking ? :rolleyes: ...... Even though Flyboys is not a great movie but its no where worse than Crank, which is like a real life cartoon :p

bassmonkeee
05-16-07, 09:27 PM
Crank, which is like a real life cartoon :p


You say that like it's a bad thing. :D

Frank Stein
05-16-07, 09:52 PM
I bought Crank based upon comments on this forum. What a huge waste of money. Turned if off after a 1/2 hour and tossed the disk into the trash. I had forgotten that so many on the forum evaluate and recommend movies based upon PQ instead of content. Needless to say, I'll never listen to 89suited's recommendations again.

Flyboys? Thankfully I only wasted the rental fee on this piece of trash.

egy971
05-16-07, 10:34 PM
I watched Flyboys today. Decent flick, really good PQ and aerial shots. As for the AQ, I don't even have speakers yet and my bed was shaking!

cdhender
05-16-07, 10:40 PM
C'mon guys, this movie had every single cliche in any War movie. The rebel leader, the spoiled brat kid, the black pilot just wanting a chance......

I mean, at least Crank was original, even if it was terrible, lol.

shadowrage
05-16-07, 11:23 PM
C'mon guys, this movie had every single cliche in any War movie. The rebel leader, the spoiled brat kid, the black pilot just wanting a chance......

I mean, at least Crank was original, even if it was terrible, lol.
Crank wasn't terrible. It was a movie on crank.

Flyboys was directed by an ex-pilot. I was expecting awesom dog fighting. And thats what I got, plus James Franco's pregnancy inducing smile. :)

Rachael Bellomy
05-16-07, 11:24 PM
....Flyboys? Thankfully I only wasted the rental fee on this piece of trash.

I don't get why some folks trash this film. It pretty much lays out what it was like to be in WW1. It's not a brilliant film but it's very credible, IMO.

shadowrage
05-17-07, 12:00 AM
I don't get why some folks trash this film. It pretty much lays out what it was like to be in WW1. It's not a brilliant film but it's very credible, IMO.

Flyboy's didn't exactly get the multi million casualties point across. I don't think WW1 was that not-depressing.

Still very entertaining. At least the parts with planes. I felt bad for the lion. :(

Rachael Bellomy
05-17-07, 10:54 AM
Flyboy's didn't exactly get the multi million casualties point across. I don't think WW1 was that not-depressing.

Still very entertaining. At least the parts with planes. I felt bad for the lion. :(

The casualties that actually ended the war was all the folks who died from the flu epedemic of 1918. I'm alright that they didn't introduce that into the plot.

Franin
02-10-10, 11:14 AM
Was recommended to watch this film as I was disappointed with The Red Baron and have to say Im glad I bought this on a blind buy. Fantastic :)

Joel Clemons
02-10-10, 01:23 PM
I don't get why some folks trash this film. It pretty much lays out what it was like to be in WW1. It's not a brilliant film but it's very credible, IMO.

Not that credible. Apparently, WWI was a non-smoking war!

Dex Robinson
02-10-10, 02:08 PM
I think this probably the best flying movie on disc. It's certainly the best WWI flying film. It may not be perfect but there were a lot of opportunities for this film to go way off track and it managed to avoid the worst pitfalls. The flying was decently realistic (no...I didn't fly in WWI but I logged my share of Pilot-in-Command time on Cessnas and Pipers) and the love story fairly restrained.

Overall, I thought it did a very good job of telling the story of the air war.

I never understand the criticism of war films that don't tell the entire history of war and it's aftermath. OK...so we didn't see millions of casualties and guys getting blown to bits. this is a flying movie, it's not about the trench war. They didn't include the Spanish flu epidemic. I'm sorry there weren't enough cigarettes. Maybe that can be a separate movie: The story of maimed trench warfare survivors getting the flu and lung cancer.

FLYBOYS is good (not great) movie. The flying is the best I've seen. The PQ and AQ are very good.

If the subject does'nt interest some people, that's fine. Not everybody is interested in everything. I don't own a copy of TRANSFORMERS. But it you want to see a good flying movie, FLYBOYS is the best you can find.

robertc88
02-10-10, 03:00 PM
It's high time I watched this again. In my que prioritized! :)

Rachael Bellomy
02-10-10, 03:25 PM
Not that credible. Apparently, WWI was a non-smoking war!

That's your criticism of the film, seriously?.....not enough smoking. It's been 6 months or so since I watched the film and I do not recall how many planes got smoked.... ;)

K-Spaz
02-10-10, 03:47 PM
I just read this whole thread and it was funny throughout. I think it speaks volumes for any movie where the viewers are so passionate about their opinions, especially when it is that way both good and bad. Personally, I thought this was a terrific movie. I liked many of the actors, but I admit Jean Reno's part was not very well written. At least for todays audience. I thought the movie captured the spirit of a simpler time and put some of that onto the film. The reduced smoking didn't bother me in the least.

Franin, if you enjoyed this, another very underrated film was Saints and Soldiers. Very low budget, no big names in it. I thought the movie itself was fantastic.
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I thought Saints and Soldiers has been viewed by someone on the forum on Blu, but I guess I was mistaken.

gstspyder
02-10-10, 04:03 PM
[QUOTE=Dex Robinson;18108985]I think this probably the best flying movie on disc. It's certainly the best WWI flying film.

I think that honor gos to:
Wings (1927) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0018578/

Joel Clemons
02-10-10, 05:04 PM
That's your criticism of the film, seriously?.....not enough smoking. It's been 6 months or so since I watched the film and I do not recall how many planes got smoked.... ;)

It's just that such omissions take me out of the film. I never feel the illusion of time/place and am instead reminded that I'm watching political correctness in the arts. Felt the same way about PEARL HARBOR (aside from its other problems!) But I did enjoy the flying scenes.

K-Spaz
02-10-10, 05:16 PM
I think you're just a teenee bit too sensitive to such things. I'm not going to say I could not feel similar about other things, but I don't think I'd let it alter the movie for me. Perhaps because I have no interest in smoking or not, maybe I'm not very observant, but I have to tell you, the idea of this never crossed my mind. Until you mentioned it, I was happily ignorant.

Phantom Stranger
02-10-10, 07:32 PM
Franin, if you enjoyed this, another very underrated film was Saints and Soldiers. Very low budget, no big names in it. I thought the movie itself was fantastic.
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I thought Saints and Soldiers has been viewed by someone on the forum on Blu, but I guess I was mistaken.
You were not mistaken...

"Saints And Soldiers" review from the PQ Tier thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18025434#post18025434

Franin
02-10-10, 07:49 PM
I just read this whole thread and it was funny throughout. I think it speaks volumes for any movie where the viewers are so passionate about their opinions, especially when it is that way both good and bad. Personally, I thought this was a terrific movie. I liked many of the actors, but I admit Jean Reno's part was not very well written. At least for todays audience. I thought the movie captured the spirit of a simpler time and put some of that onto the film. The reduced smoking didn't bother me in the least.

Franin, if you enjoyed this, another very underrated film was Saints and Soldiers. Very low budget, no big names in it. I thought the movie itself was fantastic.
/edited
I thought Saints and Soldiers has been viewed by someone on the forum on Blu, but I guess I was mistaken.

Thanks! Will have to check that out.

Htdude14
02-10-10, 07:56 PM
It's definetly a fun flick(though every German flying a red triplane bugs me:confused:) and an easy buy for any fan of the genre at it's current price of 10 or less. Very good PQ and AQ:D

K-Spaz
02-10-10, 08:00 PM
You were not mistaken...

"Saints And Soldiers" review from the PQ Tier thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18025434#post18025434
Hey thanks! My memory hasn't completely failed. Great news!

I'll have to ask then where you got it. At least for me, that's a keeper, even if the pq was less than stellar.

Dex Robinson
02-10-10, 09:33 PM
It's definetly a fun flick(though every German flying a red triplane bugs me:confused:)

The commentary makes a reasonable case for the triplanes. There needed to be some way for filmgoers to keep track of the teams. You can't follow a football game if you have two teams wearing seven different uniforms. I'm an aviation enthusiast but even I would have had trouble telling who's who if the producers had mixed in more types.

Let's face it...it even happens in real life. The only Canadian pilot shot down during the Korean war (Andy McKenzie in an F-86) was shot down by another F-86 pilot that thought his plane was a MiG-15.

Franin
02-11-10, 01:59 AM
The commentary makes a reasonable case for the triplanes. There needed to be some way for filmgoers to keep track of the teams. You can't follow a football game if you have two teams wearing seven different uniforms.

I agree.

Rachael Bellomy
02-13-10, 04:29 PM
I watched Flyboys again and it's amazing how nobody smokes in an era where smoking by males was prevalent. That doesn't bother me. The not so aptly named Spanish Flu was not an omission either. The film takes place in 1917. The flu hit the next year. It actually did boil up in a few limited areas in '17 but the plague of it was yet to come.

I like the film. It seems rather well thought out. The animation in the flying could look a bit more convincing but maybe Bill & Ted would have to supply a time machine for that.... ;)