Hi I'm looking to buy a display that can output full 1080i at 60 full, crisp and sharp fields per second. I'm looking for something to display my HD home movies of sports recorded at a shutter speed of 1/1000th of a second.

I've got rock solid full motion video can anything (besides my CRT monitor and PC) truly display it??

Any help would GREATLY be appreciated.

Colin

Nothing goes that fast, sorry. There is no display that can change its image 1000 frames per second. Your CRT televisions and computer monitors max out somewhere around 120 to 150Hz anyway. 60Hz is the highest input frame rate that an HDTV display will accept.

Edit: now that I think about it, there's no capture device I know of capable at recording at 1000 frames per second. You're probably misundestanding the specs on your digital camera/camcorder. A shutter speed of 1/1000s is common, but cameras don't operate in full-motion capture this way. Assuming the camera can capture at 60 frames per second (unusual) or more likely at 30 frames per second, what's happening is the camera is opening that shutter for 1/1000th of a second, then closing...60 times per second.

Your video frame rate is not more than 60fps. Any TV can handle it. If you're concerned about motion blur on LCDs, then avoid them & stick with either LCOS or DLP-based rear projection sets or plasma displays.

Nothing goes that fast, sorry. There is no display that can change its image 1000 frames per second. Your CRT televisions and computer monitors max out somewhere around 120 to 150Hz anyway. 60Hz is the highest input frame rate that an HDTV display will accept.

Just to clarify lexx.

The footage is at 1080i at 59.94 fields per second. The shutter speed of 1/1000th just indicates how much temporal info is in each field. The mechanical equivalent would be opening a shutter for 1/1000th of a second and closing it... and doing that over and over at about 60 times per second.

EDIT: Looks like we are in agreement except for one thing... just what is capable of displaying crisp 60 fields per second. I've tried my footage on 2 state of the art DLP 1080p displays ... no dice.

thanks for the reply

DLP projection sets don't have lag issues.

Also, be aware that mpeg itself uses motion blur to cut down on the data replication between frames & simulate the impression of motion. It's a trick. Try pausing a DVD movie during a fast action scene - you don't see a crisp still image, you see a blur from one image to the next.

I guess you should just try all the types of TVs & decide what's best for you, really.

HV10,

Any fixed panel digital display is going to be progressive, and as a result, it will need interpolate the information to create each frame of the 60p image. You're probably already familiar with how this works, but for others, Silicon Optix has a good video tutorial on how this should be done right here (http://www.hqv.com/technology/index1/deinterlacing).

Unfortunately, the circuitry for 1080i->1080p video de-interlace in most 2006 consumer displays is mediocre to poor. You should keep your eye out for a display (or external video processor) with video processing circuitry from Gennum or Silicon Optix. Denon is expected to release some new HDMI 1.3 receivers with Silicon Optix processing around mid-year.

So is it the deinterlacing thats slow or the actual pixel display technology?

For reference I've uploaded a 100 Meg 1080i (HDV style) MPEG-2 file shot with my HV10 out an SUV window. It's the only clip of this type on my laptop although I have much better ones I can upload at a later date. It's not perfect... 1440x1080 59.94i 1/1000th sec shutter speed... about 25 Mbps constant bit rate (straight from HDV). Please ignore the irrelevant conversation in the background.


http://www.listvideo.com/

It's in the HV-10 section, and is called "Drive in Country"


I swear to God this looks rock solid on my CRT monitor PC setup. Individual twigs, bits of grass are sharp and clear as they whiz by when I follow them with my gaze: they suffer no motion blurring at all.

FYI I watch this in PROGRESSIVE mode (1940x1080 ~60Hz) with hardware accelerated bob de-interlacing with an ATI card on a CRT. Believe me 60 perfectly clear images per second is spectacular.

My big question is, are there any mass market flat panel HDTVs that can display this clip without any blurring/smearing? Or maybe I should wait a few MORE years??

I plan to upload a better clip with fast moving signage.

This whole thing about HDTVs not being able to render 60 fields per second perfectly clearly..I'm not crazy for noticing this am I??


Cheers
Colin
PS: You really have to watch this on a high end PC with CRT monitor to really see how good this actually looks.

So is it the deinterlacing thats slow or the actual pixel display technology? With an LCD, you are seeing the limits of that specific technology, which is remedied in part by new 120Hz LCDs.

With other fixed panel displays like LCOS, DLP, and plasma, you are seeing the limits of display's video processing (deinterlace).