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I finally got one of these. Very happy with it(except price). Its an extremely well built beautiful cabinet, excellent menu system and flawless game play control.
For those that dont know what it is, look here: http://www.chicago-gaming.com/alegends.php
Its basically a multi-game arcade that allows you to download game packs(sold separately of course).
**Version 3.1**
-1941
-1942
-Asteroids
-Asteroids Deluxe
-Bagman
-Battlezone
-Berzerk
-Black Widow
-Bombjack Twin
-Centipede
-Commando Crystal Castles
-Do Run Run
-Exed Eyes
-Frenzy
-Ghosts ‘N Goblins
-Ghouls n Ghosts
-Gravitar
-Gunsmoke
-Ladybug
-Legendary Wings
-Liberator
-Lunar Lander
-Major Havoc
-Mega Man
-Mercs
-Millipede
-Missile Command
-Mortal Kombat
-Mr. Do!
-Mr. Do!’s Castle
-Mr. Do!’s Wild Ride
-Penguin Wars
-Pinball Action
-Pinbo
-Red Baron
-Saboten Bomber
-Section Z
-Side Arms Hyper Dyne
-Space Duel
-Speedball
-Street Fighter II
-Strider
-Super Breakout
-Super Dodge Ball
-Tempest
-Warlords
-Vulgus
-Zero Wing
**Midway pack**
-720
-Blaster
-Bubbles
-Defender
-Gauntlet
-Joust
-Joust 2
-KLAX
-Marble Madness
-Paperboy
-Rampage
-Rampart
-Road Blasters
-Robotron: 2084
-Satan's Hollow
-Sinistar
-Splat!
-Spy Hunter
-Super Sprint
-Tapper
-Toobin'
-Vindicators
**Mega pack**
-1943
-64th Street
-Anteater
-Armored Car
-Astro Invader
-Astyanax
-Avenging Spirit
-Black Tiger
-Calipso
-Captain Commando
-Cosmic Avenger
-Cybattler
-Demon's World
-E.D.F.
-Final Fight
-Hellfire
-Jumping Jack
-Kick Rider
-King Of Dragons
-Knights Of The Round
-Magic Sword
-Mega Twins
-Moon Cresta
-Nova 2001
-Out Zone
-P-47
-Phoenix
-Pipi & Bibi's
-Pirate Ship HiGeMaru
-Quiz & Dragons
-Rod-land
-Saint Dragon
-Saturday Night Slam Masters
-Snap Jack
-Snow Bros
-Snow Bros. 2
-Son Son
-Space Panic
-Speed Coin
-Street Fighter
-Street Fighter II Turbo
-Super Bagman
-Super Pierrot
-Tazz Mania
-Thief
-Three Wonders I
-Three Wonders II
-Three Wonders III
-Trojan
-Truxton II
-Varth : Operation Thunderstorm
-Yankee Do!
**Sports pack**
-Arlington Horse Racing
-Gimme A Break
-Goal '92
-Goalie Ghost
-Golden Tee Golf
-Golden Tee Golf 2
-Gridiron Fight
-Hat Trick
-Hoccer
-Shots Tennis
-Karate Champ
-Mini Golf
-Ring King
-Side Pocket
-Speed Spin
-Spiker
-Street Football
-Street Hoop
-Super Champion Baseball
-Super Dodge Ball
-Super Doubles Tennis
-Super Strike
-Tag Team Wrestling
-Tehkan World Cup
-V'ball
-Windjammers
-WWF Superstars
-WWF Wrestlefest
**Dragon's Lair pack**
-Dragon's Lair
-Dragon's Lair II Time Warp
-Space Ace
**King pack**
-Donkey Kong
-Donkey Kong Jr
-Donkey Kong 3
**Pac Family Classics**
-PacMan
-Ms PacMan
-Galaga
-Galaxian
-Dig Dug
-Mappy
-Xevious
-Penguin Wars
-Super Dodge Ball
**Lost Treasures pack**
-Alien Syndrome
-Altered Beasts
-Bomb Jack
-Carrier Air Wing
-Congo Bongo
-Contra
-Crazy Climber
-ECO Fighters
-Extermination
-Fantasy Zone
-Mad Planets (not compatible with cocktail version)
-Omega Racing
-Puzznic
-Quantum
-Rally Bike
-Street Fighter II
-Tempest Tubes
-Time Pilot
-Tutankhan
-Zaxxon
**Space Invaders pack**
-Space Invaders
-Space Invaders part II
-Space Invaders deluxe
-Super Space Invaders
**Taito pack**
-Arkanoid
-Arkanoid 2: The Revenge of Doh
-Tournament Arkanoid
-Arkanoid Returns
-Bubble Bobble
-Bubble Bobble 2
-Bubble Memories
-Cameltry
-Chack'n Pop
-Champion Wrestler
-Cleopatra's Fortune
-Don Doko Don
-Elevator Action
-Fairyland Story
-Insector X
-Kram
-Landmaker
-Legend of Kage
-Liquid Kids
-Plotting
-Plump Pop
-Puchi Carat
-Puzzle Bobble
-Puzzle Bobble 2
-Puzzle Bobble 3
-Puzzle Bobble 4
-Rainbow Islands
-Rastan
-The New Zealand Story
-Zookeeper
**Casino pack**
-Boardwalk Casino
-Lucky Poker
-Dynamic Dice
-Blackjack
-Super Casino
-Super Duper Casino
-Showdown
-UltraSlot
**NeoGeo pack** (not compatible with cocktail version)
-Art of Fighting
-Blue's Journey
-Baseballs Stars 2
-Battle Flip Shot
-Captain Tomaday
-Double Dragon
-Fatal Fury 3
-Football Frenzy
-Gururin
-Karnov's Revenge
-King of the Monsters 2
-Last Blade 2
-League Bowling
-Magical Drop 2
-Magical Drop 3
-Money Puzzle Exchanger
-Metal Slug
-Metal Slug 2
-Metal Slug X
-Neo Bomber Man
-Neo Drift Out New Technology
-Neo Mr. Do!
-Neo Turf Masters
-Panic Bomber
-Power Spikes 2
-Puzzle Bobble 2
-Puzzle de Pon!
-Puzzled
-Shock Troopers 2
-Spinmaster
-Stakes Winner 2
-Top Hunter
-Twinklestar Sprites
-Waku Waku 7
barhoram 02-02-07, 03:47 PM Yes,
We have one. Also purchaced and installed the Pac Man/Ms Pac Man/Dig Dug PC Cd that works with the system. Overall happy with it, especially that we got it for less than a grand.
What packs do you have?
Yes,
We have one. Also purchaced and installed the Pac Man/Ms Pac Man/Dig Dug PC Cd that works with the system. Overall happy with it, especially that we got it for less than a grand.
What packs do you have?
Less than a grand???? I was happy I got it for 2 grand! :(
I got the pacman pack, Donkey Kong pack, Dragons Lair pack and Sports pack. It came installed with the mega pack and a few other games.
Your Pacman came on a CD??? Mine came on a flash drive along with the others... except Dragons Lair came with a flash drive and 3 CD's.
tidalwdave 02-02-07, 10:51 PM Less than a grand???? I was happy I got it for 2 grand! :(
I got the pacman pack, Donkey Kong pack, Dragons Lair pack and Sports pack. It came installed with the mega pack and a few other games.
Your Pacman came on a CD??? Mine came on a flash drive along with the others... except Dragons Lair came with a flash drive and 3 CD's.
Where can I get one for less that a grand?
Also, where is the Donkey Kong pack? I didn't see one on the links? :confused:
I may get one if I can get that pack. :cool:
barhoram 02-03-07, 06:13 AM It was a floor room model that we talked them down on the price. As for the pac man pack, this was actually a old(er) microsoft cd-rom game pack for a pc that for whatever reason installs those games onto arcade legends machines. Actually, from what I have read, the games are aleady on the machine, something from the cd causes them to activate and show up in the menu....the dealer already had these on the machine (Ms Pack Man was what got my wife interesed in the machine) when we got it. You can find the cd's on ebay for around $100.00. The local dealer by me has a couple for sale for around that price as well.
Where can I get one for less that a grand?
Also, where is the Donkey Kong pack? I didn't see one on the links? :confused:
I may get one if I can get that pack. :cool:
There are many packs available. From what I have learned, is that several packs (Pacman, Donkey Kong etc.) have been "pulled" due to licensing problems. Like barhoram said, a search of Ebay or other online sellers will easily get you your pack(expect to pay at least $300.00 for the hard to find ones). I even heard there is a Neo Geo pack out there, and several authorized ones on the horizon... Like I said before, I havent heard of any "CD" packs except the system restore disk(which contains games) and the Dragon Lairs pack. I must say the flash drive is pretty cool... just plug it in and your games are download automatically in minutes.
I do have a few questions if anyone can help...
-How big is the hard drive?
-In the setup menu, when looking at your game list, what exactly do the 3 different colors represent(green, yellow, red)??? The best I can tell its some kind of parental rating system(check out "Pipis and Bibis" which you can turn on nudity... kinda funny).
-Once again in the game set up menu, what do the numbers after the games mean?
I would love the sports pack...
Make your own cheaper easier and you get all games.
barhoram 02-21-07, 02:22 PM Cheaper, probably.
Easier, I don't think so.
My machine I made from scratch thanks to the mame forums and BYOAC site was a blast to work on. Found some plans on that site bought a couple sheets of wood and the thing came out awesome and it plays all nintendo, n64, snes, genesis, atari, arcade you could ever want. I ll throw some pics up when i get a sec.
making your own also has legal questions due to the games.
I'm getting into this myself (a home arcade)... Not really a legal issue. Sure there are bootlegged ROMS, but that doesn't mean you have to download and install them. A lot of sites, well reputable/legit sites won't even have copy-righted ROMs.
This unit is very nice looking though and a one stop shopping type setup, which is appealing.
You are quite right ;)
mbott1701 08-03-07, 08:21 AM Hi Guys. My first post.
I ordered an Arcade Legends cocktail cabinet from HTMarket. What they sent me was an Ultracade cocktail. I had also bought some on the addon packs, specifically the King Pack, Midway Treasures, and Dragon's Lair pack, for the Arcade Legends machine. But now that they sent me an Ultracade, I don't know if they will work with the Ultracade. Anyone know if the two are compatible?
I haven't been able to try them yet becayse I can't get the back panel off. If has some kind of crazy screws with a head that I don't have a bit for. I'm going to have to go to the hardware store to see if I can find something that will work.
tleavit 08-03-07, 12:26 PM I think I actually saw this for sale at Cosco once when I went in.
Hi Guys. My first post.
I ordered an Arcade Legends cocktail cabinet from HTMarket. What they sent me was an Ultracade cocktail. I had also bought some on the addon packs, specifically the King Pack, Midway Treasures, and Dragon's Lair pack, for the Arcade Legends machine. But now that they sent me an Ultracade, I don't know if they will work with the Ultracade. Anyone know if the two are compatible?
I haven't been able to try them yet becayse I can't get the back panel off. If has some kind of crazy screws with a head that I don't have a bit for. I'm going to have to go to the hardware store to see if I can find something that will work.
Some work with each other.... Isnt there a key for the front where you would deposit coins?
mbott1701 08-03-07, 02:22 PM HTMarket is sending out new add on packs that they say will work for the Ultracade. They said the one they sent originally will not work.
I do have the key for the coin door, but for the Ultracades you have to take off the rear panel to get to the CD ROM drive and USB input. I just have to go pick up the right screwdiver bit after work.
humanoidx 08-04-07, 11:22 PM Hi, I have Arcade Legends with the 3.0 upgrade. I just got the Sports Pack upgrade today. It comes with 28 games. When I installed it, 4 of the games didn't show up: Karate Champ, Street Hoops, Side Pocket, and Windjammers.
I was wondering if any of you had any trouble where some of your games didn't show up. All my other packs are fine.
Hi, I have Arcade Legends with the 3.0 upgrade. I just got the Sports Pack upgrade today. It comes with 28 games. When I installed it, 4 of the games didn't show up: Karate Champ, Street Hoops, Side Pocket, and Windjammers.
I was wondering if any of you had any trouble where some of your games didn't show up. All my other packs are fine.
If I recall correctly... some of those games were removed in later versions of the packs. I think it had something to do with licenses or something like that.
For those interested in the NEO GEO pack and are using the cocktail version... dont bother. Most dont play correctly.
whiskey > work 08-05-07, 07:07 PM games don't play correctly? This thing sounds wonky
games don't play correctly? This thing sounds wonky
These are "unapproved" games and can only be found on Ebay.
mbott1701 08-05-07, 08:06 PM Since the controls in the cocktail are facing each other and not side-by-side (like in the upright), some vertically scrolling games won't do two player. The vertical games where two player has both players on the screen at once, won't work.
Other than that the cocktail version has been a blast for me and my kids so far. I should be getting my replacement add on packs tomorrow.
humanoidx 08-06-07, 01:50 AM If I recall correctly... some of those games were removed in later versions of the packs. I think it had something to do with licenses or something like that.
Hmmm. It doesn't say it's the later version. Says system requirements: Arcade Legends 2.0, and lists the (misssing) games right on the package: Karate Champ, Side Pocket, Street Hoops, and Windjammers. Yesterday I tried pretty much
everything, including formatting my Arcade Legends, reinstalling version 2.0
and then putting on the Sports Pack to see if it was only compatible with
earlier versions. No dice. The games just don't show up no matter what I do.
Two more installations of different versions of Arcade Legends and I've now
exhausted everything to conclude that the games are just not on there. It may
be a defective Sports Pack with those games being corrupted or something? It would suck if they were taken off. I love Karate Champ. :(
Hmmm. It doesn't say it's the later version. Says system requirements: Arcade Legends 2.0, and lists the (misssing) games right on the package: Karate Champ, Side Pocket, Street Hoops, and Windjammers. Yesterday I tried pretty much
everything, including formatting my Arcade Legends, reinstalling version 2.0
and then putting on the Sports Pack to see if it was only compatible with
earlier versions. No dice. The games just don't show up no matter what I do.
Two more installations of different versions of Arcade Legends and I've now
exhausted everything to conclude that the games are just not on there. It may
be a defective Sports Pack with those games being corrupted or something? It would suck if they were taken off. I love Karate Champ. :(
Im pretty sure they were removed... dont worry, Karate Champ isnt the same without 2 joysticks.
humanoidx 08-06-07, 03:31 PM Im pretty sure they were removed... dont worry, Karate Champ isnt the same without 2 joysticks.
Here's the word from Chicago Gaming (makers of the Arcade Legends cab) in an e-mail to me:
when GlobalVR took over Ultracade they did a major house cleaning where all the software licenses were reviewed and expired ones were flagged and the unlicensed games were removed. The 4 you listed in this letter are the 4 removed from the sports packs that have been shipped in the last year. If you'd purchased an earlier sports pack and the key needed to be reimaged you'd never get those 4 games back as they are removed- permemantly.
Jacked out of 4 games. Now there's an Arcade Legends 2 as well. I thought this thing was future-proof. Guess not. :confused:
mbott1701 08-06-07, 04:00 PM Man that sucks.
I have an Ultracade, but probably should've just get a MAME. Sometimes they make it so hard to do the right thing (buy licensed games) that in the end it just isn't worth it. They don't care about you, the consumer, so why should you care about their copyrights?
humanoidx 08-06-07, 04:30 PM Man that sucks.
I have an Ultracade, but probably should've just get a MAME. Sometimes they make it so hard to do the right thing (buy licensed games) that in the end it just isn't worth it. They don't care about you, the consumer, so why should you care about their copyrights?
The only good thing is you can get the packs that used to cost in the hundreds of dollars for about half that now. Bulk up on old packs and you can trick out your system with a ton of games.
The only good thing is you can get the packs that used to cost in the hundreds of dollars for about half that now. Bulk up on old packs and you can trick out your system with a ton of games.
Return the packs and get an old one off Ebay.
Anyone find any other packs not listed above?
mbott1701 08-07-07, 11:09 AM I got my replacement add on packs from HTMarket. The included the trackball classics pack for my toubles, so I'm happy with the way they handled the order.
So, I have an Ultracade version 3.7 cocktail with the Midway Treasures pack, King pack, Trackball Classics pack, and Dragon's Lair pack. Total about 125 games. I was up late last night playing. My kids are loving too.
Hopefully I'll be able to finish refubishing my Sega Star Trek upright and then that will be in the basement too. My projects down there just about done, finally. :)
dukedallas2005 08-07-07, 02:52 PM FYI - For all, I talked to someone directly at Chicago Gaming and what he basically said is that the PC which is running the Arcade Legends machines has a hard drive on it (I forget exactly how big 40gig) but he said they have loaded EVERY game made for the machine on their test machine and the hard drive isnt even half full. So those of you worried about filling up too many games on your Arcade Legends machines ...aint gonna happen.
The only game packs I am missing is Neo Geo, Lost Treasures, Dragons Lair,Space Invaders. I got a guy I get all my games from for about 1/2 the price I've seen on eBay or the internet. I hit him up usually every other month even at 1/2 price these game paks are expensive!
P.S. I got my stand-up machine for $1500, told the wife I paid $700 :rolleyes:
humanoidx 08-10-07, 03:41 AM I'm missing Midway Treasures (got the Blast Pack early and it had half those games on it...grrr), Dragon's Lair pack, Lost Treasures, Space Invaders, Pac-family, Casino and a few of the single packs. I think that's all. I hope if they offer an upgrade, it'll be able to work in conjunction with the first Arcade Legends; i.e. you have a screen that lets you start up with AL1 or AL2.
mbott1701 08-10-07, 09:07 AM I just got the Sports pack for my Ultracade last night. It must be an earlier one because it has the 4 games (ex: Karate Champ) that were removed by Global VR for licensing issues. I was happy to see them in the game line-up after I installed.
Now all I need to get is the Pac Family Classics and Taito packs. Not sure if the Space Invaders pack will work with the Ultracade or if it is just for Arcade Legends.
humanoidx 08-13-07, 09:52 AM I just got the Sports pack for my Ultracade last night. It must be an earlier one because it has the 4 games (ex: Karate Champ) that were removed by Global VR for licensing issues. I was happy to see them in the game line-up after I installed.
Now all I need to get is the Pac Family Classics and Taito packs. Not sure if the Space Invaders pack will work with the Ultracade or if it is just for Arcade Legends.
Old Sports Pack = me jealous. :(
AMAAudioDude 08-13-07, 11:55 PM where do you get these? Are they re-furbished?
Audi Dude
mbott1701 08-14-07, 09:47 AM I got mine from HTMarket.com
I actually ordered an Arcade Legends, but the sent me the Ultracade. In the end I made out better since the Ultracade is but for commercial use and is pretty robust.
I am in the process of switching out the trackballs with illuminated ones. The ultracade control panel is pretty boring, so I am doing some mods to it.
humanoidx 08-14-07, 05:16 PM where do you get these? Are they re-furbished?
Audi Dude
The machine, i got from Home Arcade Corp in Lisle, Illinois.
www.homearcadecorp.com
I bought it new in 2004.
humanoidx 08-16-07, 10:46 AM Anyone have Galaga for Arcade Legends? I am looking for this single pack. Thanks!
Anyone have Galaga for Arcade Legends? I am looking for this single pack. Thanks!
Ive never seen it as a single... only in the pacman pack.
humanoidx 08-21-07, 01:38 PM Ive never seen it as a single... only in the pacman pack.
Hmm. That stinks cuz I have everything in that pack minus Galaga. :mad: Wish there was a way I could just get the one game.
mbott1701 08-21-07, 03:26 PM Check with this eBay seller, I think he has galaga individually. I've done business with him before and he is a stand up guy.
http://myworld.*********/socajr/
mbott1701 08-21-07, 03:28 PM Also, FYI, Pacman, MsPac and Digdug are a little tricky yo use on the ultracade/arcade legends machines. The digital 8-way joysticks the cabinets use causes some "mis-moves." At least that has been my experience.
humanoidx 08-22-07, 12:12 AM Also, FYI, Pacman, MsPac and Digdug are a little tricky yo use on the ultracade/arcade legends machines. The digital 8-way joysticks the cabinets use causes some "mis-moves." At least that has been my experience.
Dig Dug is fine. Pac & Ms. Pac are tricky cuz of the 8 way, but you can get used to it.
Check with this eBay seller, I think he has galaga individually. I've done business with him before and he is a stand up guy.
http://myworld.*********/socajr/
I can also vouch for this seller.
humanoidx 08-22-07, 03:38 AM I can also vouch for this seller.
I didn't see anything on this seller's store. I had to get to his name through typing it in eBay cuz that link is broken.
HeadRusch 08-22-07, 12:37 PM I'm confused....does this company actually license all the respective titles from their respective holders, ie: Taito, Konami, etc.......for sale exclusively with their cabinets?
Or is this nothing but a MAMECab for sale with only questionably legitimate MAME roms......
humanoidx 08-22-07, 01:00 PM I'm confused....does this company actually license all the respective titles from their respective holders, ie: Taito, Konami, etc.......for sale exclusively with their cabinets?
Or is this nothing but a MAMECab for sale with only questionably legitimate MAME roms......
I've been told by several sources that they are 100% legit b/c they buy the licensing rights to the roms from the original companies that own the games. That's why it took so long to get game packs out b/c of licensing, timeframes, etc. The software is proprietary and is called the Joshua OS. The system is on a PC, but it's not running any form of Windows. That's about all I know; hope it helps.
dukedallas2005 08-22-07, 02:17 PM Pac Man and Ms. Pac Man definately hard to play...i thought it was just my game.
humanoidx 08-22-07, 03:46 PM Pac Man and Ms. Pac Man definately hard to play...i thought it was just my game.
Try playing Q*Bert! :eek:
In light of the Arcade Legends (1) machine's packs going out of print, I decided to trick out my machine before it's all gone. They're making new stuff for Arcade Legends 2 with an onboard system (no PC). This new standard machine comes with 125 games and no upgrades as of yet. Good thing theres' about double that available for AL1 or I'd be majorly ticked off.
HeadRusch 08-22-07, 07:10 PM You guys are adventurous to toss your $$ into a system with a propriatary OS and propriatary Roms.......
May I ask, why didn't you guys just do MAME......??
humanoidx 08-23-07, 09:55 AM You guys are adventurous to toss your $$ into a system with a propriatary OS and propriatary Roms.......
May I ask, why didn't you guys just do MAME......??
I always opt for the legal way to do things, and I have a large tie to the video game industry, and always want to give creators of games their due share.
mbott1701 08-23-07, 10:22 AM I agree with Humanoidx. Now if I didn't have the funds to to the legal thing, I might be more tempted to do a MAME.
I do like the idea of doing a custom MAME cabinet, though. I like to add personal touches, which is why I changed out the stock trackballs and put lighted ones in my ultracade. I'm also redoing the control panel overlays.
humanoidx 08-23-07, 10:51 AM I agree with Humanoidx. Now if I didn't have the funds to to the legal thing, I might be more tempted to do a MAME.
I do like the idea of doing a custom MAME cabinet, though. I like to add personal touches, which is why I changed out the stock trackballs and put lighted ones in my ultracade. I'm also redoing the control panel overlays.
Yes, just to say I built one...just for the experience of it; that would be sweet. It may happen, as I have an empty cab that need a lot of work.
mbott1701 08-23-07, 12:46 PM I'm still struggling to get my Sega Star Trek upright working. Those darn G08 vector monitors can be a real pain. If I can't get it to work, I might just end up with an empty cab myself.
dukedallas2005 08-23-07, 02:08 PM What is a MAME?
HeadRusch 08-23-07, 03:13 PM I always opt for the legal way to do things, and I have a large tie to the video game industry, and always want to give creators of games their due share.
Do you think any of the money you pay this company in...well..wherever they are, is making it back to the guys who made the game? Its likely not, its probably just making it back to the companies that hold the licenses for the games and character likenesses.
But, whatever works for you is key here.
HeadRusch 08-23-07, 03:14 PM PS: Mame
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAME
mbott1701 08-23-07, 03:41 PM Another reason I went with the Ultracade is becuase I wanted a cocktail and I wanted it to do this:
"One of the most unique features is UltraCade's cocktail dual screen mode. Games that are two player simultaneous, will automatically mirror image the game screen to players allowing games such as Street Fighter II to be played on a cocktail, a feature never before offered in any cocktail table."
HeadRusch 08-23-07, 05:22 PM Another reason I went with the Ultracade is becuase I wanted a cocktail and I wanted it to do this:
"One of the most unique features is UltraCade's cocktail dual screen mode. Games that are two player simultaneous, will automatically mirror image the game screen to players allowing games such as Street Fighter II to be played on a cocktail, a feature never before offered in any cocktail table."
That is very cool...although I have to admit, the idea of playing streetfighter on a cocktail....I mean.....do you keep spare Carpal-Tunnal braces handy at the house?? Do you require your players take advil before any matches? :D
I was lucky...I've known about Mame for some time, and I was lucky to find a guy who literally gutted arcade cabs and practically gave them away for free....I had to force the guy to take money when I found the cab I wanted (he wanted to give me a sit down OUTRUN driving cab for free...tempting as it was, my wife would have beaten me with a stick if I'd shown up with that in the back of the truck).
Enjoy your cabs.....worst comes to worse, if the company goes belly up, you rip out the guts and build MAME cabs.
humanoidx 08-26-07, 07:18 AM Do you think any of the money you pay this company in...well..wherever they are, is making it back to the guys who made the game? Its likely not, its probably just making it back to the companies that hold the licenses for the games and character likenesses.
But, whatever works for you is key here.
It does work for me, and I'm not gullible enough to believe that the original programmers are going to see a dime out of this. But somebody had to do the work to pay for licensing, and get these game all legal for play on these machines. That is a philosophy that I respect, because someone actually did a good job making these legal, legit and great to play on a very nicely made cabinet for the home. If they make money, great. That's what's going to keep things like this going. The reason they're so friggin' expensive is because people have been just pirating ROMS from the get-go of MAME. I know MAME's creators had originally created the whole system to be a preservation of arcade games, and if it wasn't for them, we'd be much further in the dark about arcade emulation in general. But people have bastardized the system so much, they think it's the norm to get the pirated versions rather than pay for legit copies of games any more. I'd much rather dole out some hard earned cash and play something I know I paid for, than have to visit a bunch of porn/spam/warez sites or deal with torrents to grab a whole bunch of pirated games. That's my choice, and again, it works for me.
mbott1701 08-26-07, 11:17 AM I just finished putting transluscent trackballs in my Ultracade. I like the extra lights. ;)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908104
humanoidx 08-26-07, 11:42 PM Hey, that's cool!
humanoidx 08-27-07, 01:57 PM Guys, there is a formal request on the Twin Galaxies forums: http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10426 to pursue high scores for Arcade Legends/Ultracade machines. Please go over there and chime in if you can. They seem to want to put this on the back burner b/c of all that's involved, but it would be a great way to legitimize these machines if the high scores were counted the same way as their CPU-board counterparts.
whiskey > work 08-28-07, 05:06 PM yeah I like that cocktail table
mbott1701 08-29-07, 08:37 AM Thanks.
I just placed my order to have my custom CP overlays printed from mamemarquees.com. I'll post pics once I have them installed.
I'm also swapping out the yellow coin return with a traditional red one.
Can you repost those pics???
mbott1701 09-20-07, 08:37 AM You can check out new pics of my Ultracade in this thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908104
humanoidx 09-20-07, 02:56 PM Those CP overlays are killer! Nice work!
mbott1701 09-20-07, 03:57 PM Thanks!
Did you buy that Galaga add-on from Jim?
humanoidx 09-21-07, 01:59 AM Yup.
Check with this eBay seller, I think he has galaga individually. I've done business with him before and he is a stand up guy.
http://myworld.*********/socajr/
This is his Email...
TonysGames@gmail.com
He has all the games and at great prices.
humanoidx 10-09-07, 12:59 AM This is his Email...
TonysGames@gmail.com
He has all the games and at great prices.
Yes, he is very good. Recommended by me as well.
gregcube 10-26-07, 01:04 PM Hi, I'm a new Arcade Legends owner -- picked one up a couple months ago. There isn't much online concerning the machine -- hacking it and whatnot, glad I came across this owner's thread though. I just, literally two minutes ago, purchased the sports upgrade pack from eBay. And I'm curious, has anyone tried this yet?...
- dd the usb stick (bit-for-bit on a *nix box) before marrying it to the system;
- use the stick, install the games, etc...;
- dd the dumped image back to the stick afterwards.
is it again usable now? I would imagine after using the stick once, it writes something back to it, creating the relationship with that particular machine. Logically it seems like this would work, if you have a fresh virgin copy of the image before hand. Right?
I understand the legality issues behind this, but I'm curious, that's all. Unfortunately I don't know anyone else personally who has a machine. Is someone willing to test with me?
Furthermore, I started poking around by connecting a VGA monitor, keyboard, and booting a KNOPPIX live linux cd. My machine is a Dell Pentium III 930MHz with 128MB ram, and a WD 40GB drive. The file system, if there even is one, obviously isn't recognized by Linux -- it runs some proprietary JoshuaOS operating system. Can't find much documentation on that either... Anyone else playing with the Arcade Legends in this regard?
Welcome! Unfortunately, whatever your talking about, is way over my head. Keep us informed!
mockware 10-27-07, 11:28 AM I picked up an Ultimate Arcade 2 recently - which I think is just a repackaging of the Arcade Legends 2 for Costco. I admit looking all over the place for anything on the JoshuaOS and found nothing myself. From what I read, JoshuaOS started out as an Arcade emulation project in college that turned into a the ultracade. I was hoping it might be possible to add ROMs onto the system myself in the future if I was unable to get them from the manufacturer. It looks like everything is proprietary from the boot sector on up and it was written for one purpose to emulate arcade machines. I would definitely be interested in anything you find but it will be a long time before I would risk any attempts to hack the system.
Haviland1970 11-12-07, 02:25 PM Hi,
I have an Arcade Legends I which I bought about 18 months ago. I have the Neo Geo, Taito, Arcade Treasures, Sports and Casino packs.
My machine is fine, but I do worry a bit about when the inevitable happens and it breaks down. Does anyone have any experience with getting the system repaired if it has broken?
Rich
Hi,
I have an Arcade Legends I which I bought about 18 months ago. I have the Neo Geo, Taito, Arcade Treasures, Sports and Casino packs.
My machine is fine, but I do worry a bit about when the inevitable happens and it breaks down. Does anyone have any experience with getting the system repaired if it has broken?
Rich
good question....
mockware 11-12-07, 09:50 PM Hi,
I have an Arcade Legends I which I bought about 18 months ago. I have the Neo Geo, Taito, Arcade Treasures, Sports and Casino packs.
My machine is fine, but I do worry a bit about when the inevitable happens and it breaks down. Does anyone have any experience with getting the system repaired if it has broken?
Rich
To tell you the truth I haven't looked but when I was researching the the product, it looks like it is basically a computer underneath it all and there is supposed to be a CD that is used to boot it up. I'm guessing most repairs would be the same you would do with a computer.
gregcube 11-19-07, 02:15 PM I finally got my Sports Pack upgrade and tried a few things...
First and foremost, dumping the legit USB stick with 'dd' and rewriting the image to another stick of the same size (256MB) doesn't exactly work. When the copied stick is inserted to the Arcade Legend's machine, it recognizes the stick as a valid game upgrade pack, but then immediately fails before it starts copying any of the licensed roms over. I'm guessing the dudes at Joshua Technology Inc. were smart and did something clever, like checking the USB stick's vendor ID/name. If they don't match, it fails. Perhaps if you can find USB sticks from the same vendor, it will work. More on that later.
Secondly, I dumped the stick before marrying it to my machine. After I installed the roms from the legit stick, I created another dump. So I have two images: a virgin and a married. It becomes married the second you insert the stick--before it copies anything.
The only difference between the virgin and the married image is a 64-bit value starting at 0x295:
virgin: 75 8C 63 5C 23 04 57 7F
married: 1F F5 2B 0A C3 0C 67 93
I can write the virgin image back to the legit stick and it's all cool again. Meaning it can be reused in another machine.
More notes on the Sports Upgrade pack -- courtesy of my good friend:
- the USB flash drive starts with a 'standard' x86 boot sector:
x86 boot sector; partition 4: ID=0x4
starthead 0, startsector 0, 0 sectors, code offset 0x36
- with one partition (#4) containing a WIN98 boot loader, starting at 0x4000:
x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows 98 Bootloader IO.SYS+MSDOS.SYS
code offset 0x3c, OEM-ID "MSWIN4.1", sectors/cluster 8, root entries 512
Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 248, heads 16, hidden sectors 32
sectors 506847 (volumes > 32 MB) , serial number 0xc2f8e4f2
unlabeled, FAT (16 bit)
- despite this being a 'standard' WIN98 partition, the filesystem is not FAT16
as indicated in the partition header. when partition #4 is mounted, you see
248MB but it's all 'empty'. the data within (the SAFF files - see below),
are hidden some how.
- there seems to be 28 unique blocks (or files) found at 32-bit aligned
addresses. seems to have a 128-bit header, beginning with ASCII "SAFF"
and ending with ASCII "JEXE3.86". between these strings is a 32-bit
value, probably the length or two 16-bit values...
(presumably these are the roms)
2002000: 5341 4646 4898 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFH...JEXE3.86
24c4000: 5341 4646 b96b 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.k..JEXE3.86
2bc5800: 5341 4646 117e 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.~..JEXE3.86
37bd400: 5341 4646 9538 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.8..JEXE3.86
39bc600: 5341 4646 d0b1 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
4002000: 5341 4646 c197 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
44a7600: 5341 4646 f693 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
465f600: 5341 4646 9872 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.r..JEXE3.86
4993a00: 5341 4646 139f 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
4d94000: 5341 4646 039a 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
5310a00: 5341 4646 10ac 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
5ae2600: 5341 4646 68b2 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFh...JEXE3.86
6002000: 5341 4646 fe6c 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.l..JEXE3.86
638cc00: 5341 4646 3498 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF4...JEXE3.86
696a000: 5341 4646 2b9a 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF+...JEXE3.86
6cc5a00: 5341 4646 c45e 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.^..JEXE3.86
73c1a00: 5341 4646 ebaf 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF....JEXE3.86
782fa00: 5341 4646 016e 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.n..JEXE3.86
7d58000: 5341 4646 946f 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.o..JEXE3.86
a121a00: 5341 4646 417c 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFA|..JEXE3.86
ad91000: 5341 4646 1b74 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.t..JEXE3.86
b193e00: 5341 4646 749a 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFt...JEXE3.86
b890c00: 5341 4646 a84e 0600 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.N..JEXE3.86
bceae00: 5341 4646 32f1 0400 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF2...JEXE3.86
c4bb800: 5341 4646 6a27 0600 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFj'..JEXE3.86
cc3f600: 5341 4646 707c 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFp|..JEXE3.86
d437000: 5341 4646 8963 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.c..JEXE3.86
dac4c00: 5341 4646 786d 0a00 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFxm..JEXE3.86
- the header seems to be much larger than originally assumed (128-bit).
comparing two SAFF entries, there seems to be 64 bytes of header.
the range 0x10-0x13 is common, 0x14-0x2f differ between records.
the 3rd row, 0x30-0x3f is also common... 0x40-EOF compressed and/or
encrypted data.
0000000: 5341 4646 4898 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFFH...JEXE3.86
0000010: dc1f b832 b0df ba1b 91ad 6dbd 54c4 b9e9 ...2......m.T...
0000020: ab53 603e 108d b768 ad94 4be7 7969 f90e .S`>...h..K.yi..
0000030: e1d5 06f1 e290 723e b5c7 54b5 5298 3be1 ......r>..T.R.;.
0000000: 5341 4646 b96b 0500 4a45 5845 332e 3836 SAFF.k..JEXE3.86
0000010: dc1f b832 b0df ba1b 7d72 f97c 602c 8025 ...2....}r.|`,.%
0000020: 14f5 c26c cca0 a93c 424f 5dec 663f a5e0 ...l...<BO].f?..
0000030: e1d5 06f1 e290 723e b5c7 54b5 5298 3be1 ......r>..T.R.;.
- common to all records, before actual data begins:
0000030: e1d5 06f1 e290 723e b5c7 54b5 5298 3be1 ......r>..T.R.;.
I'm still poking around and figuring new things out. I'll provide an update whenever I have the time, or discover something worthwhile. I'm not even sure what my actual goal is or will be--just having some fun right now.
gregcube 11-19-07, 02:30 PM Furthermore, here are some tools and tips to help get you started, if you wanna play around too.
I use 'dd' to dump the image; I'm on a MacBook Pro (Intel). dd is available on many, if not all, *nix based platforms.
when I insert the USB stick it's found as /dev/disk1 (on my Mac).
to dump from stick:
dd if=/dev/disk1 of=sports.dat bs=512
to write to stick:
dd if=sports.dat of=/dev/disk1 bs=512
pretty straight forward.
Here is a simple PHP script to scan offsets and dump the 28 unique blocks mentioned in my previous post. Change $dump to 28 if you want them all. This was kindly written by a friend of mine:
#!/usr/bin/php -q
<?php
$dump = 10;
$offsets = array();
$block_sizes = array(512 => 0, 1024 => 0, 2048 => 0, 4096 => 0, 8192 => 0);
$state = $_SERVER['argv'][0] . ".state";
$vkey_offset = 0x295;
if (!isset($_SERVER['argv'][1]) || !file_exists($_SERVER['argv'][1])) exit(1);
$fh = fopen($_SERVER['argv'][1], 'r');
if (!is_resource($fh)) exit(1);
if(fseek($fh, $vkey_offset) === false) {
printf("%s: error seeking to vkey offset: 0x%08x\n",
$_SERVER['argv'][1], $vkey_offset);
exit(1);
}
$vkey = array();
echo("vkey: ");
for ($i = 0; $i < 8; $i++) {
$byte = bin2hex(fread($fh, 1));
echo("$byte ");
$vkey[] = $byte;
}
echo("\n");
fseek($fh, 0);
if (file_exists($state)) {
$offsets = unserialize(file_get_contents($state));
printf("read %d cached offsets\n", count($offsets));
} else {
while(!feof($fh)) {
$buffer = fread($fh, 16);
if(strlen($buffer) != 16) {
printf("short read at: 0x%08x (%d bytes)\n",
ftell($fh) - strlen($buffer), strlen($buffer));
break;
} else if(strncmp('SAFF', $buffer, 4) == 0) {
$offsets[] = ftell($fh) - 16;
printf("file: %02d, start offset: 0x%08x\n",
count($offsets), ftell($fh) - 16);
}
}
if (!file_exists($state)) {
file_put_contents($state, serialize($offsets));
printf("cached %d offsets\n", count($offsets));
}
}
if ($dump && count($offsets)) {
printf("dumping %d files\n", $dump);
for ($i = 0; $i < $dump; $i++) {
printf("file: %02d, start offset: 0x%08x, end offset: 0x%08x, length: 0x%08x\n",
$i + 1, $offsets[$i], $offsets[$i + 1], $offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i]);
foreach ($block_sizes as $size => $count) {
$remainder = ($offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i]) % $size;
if ($remainder == 0) {
$block_sizes[$size] = ++$count;
$length = $offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i];
printf("length in %d blocks: 0x%x\n", $size, $length / $size);
} else
printf("block size: %08x %% %d = %d\n",
$offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i], $size, $remainder);
}
$filename = sprintf('SAFF-%08x.bin', $offsets[$i]);
if (file_exists($filename)) {
printf("dump file exists, skipping: %s\n", $filename);
continue;
foreach ($block_sizes as $size => $count) {
$remainder = ($offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i]) % $size;
if ($remainder == 0) {
$block_sizes[$size] = ++$count;
$length = $offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i];
printf("length in %d blocks: 0x%x\n", $size, $length / $size);
} else
printf("block size: %08x %% %d = %d\n",
$offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i], $size, $remainder);
}
$filename = sprintf('SAFF-%08x.bin', $offsets[$i]);
if (file_exists($filename)) {
printf("dump file exists, skipping: %s\n", $filename);
continue;
}
fseek($fh, $offsets[$i]);
$fh_dump = fopen($filename, 'w');
for ($length = 0; $length < $offsets[$i + 1] - $offsets[$i]; $length += 16) {
$buffer = fread($fh, 16);
if(strlen($buffer) != 16) {
printf("short read at: 0x%08x (%d bytes)\n",
ftell($fh) - strlen($buffer), strlen($buffer));
break;
}
fwrite($fh_dump, $buffer, 16);
}
fclose($fh_dump);
}
}
fclose($fh);
asort($block_sizes);
end($block_sizes);
printf("block size 'best guess': %d/0x%x bytes\n", key($block_sizes), key($block_sizes));
?>
Run it from command line specifying the dumped image as an argument. You may need to change the path to the PHP command line interpreter--if it's not under /usr/bin.
chmod +x offsets.php
./offsets.php sports.dat
I'd be interested to see the results from other upgrade packs.
gregcube 11-19-07, 02:42 PM Hi,
I have an Arcade Legends I which I bought about 18 months ago. I have the Neo Geo, Taito, Arcade Treasures, Sports and Casino packs.
My machine is fine, but I do worry a bit about when the inevitable happens and it breaks down. Does anyone have any experience with getting the system repaired if it has broken?
Rich
It's a PC inside. Mine is actually a Dell.
You can repair it yourself, if you understand the inner-workings of a PC and whatnot.
You should have the installation software on a CD too--should you need to replace the hard drive or something of that nature. It's nicely built and isn't overly difficult to unmount. They did a nice job in my opinion.
Otherwise, any local PC shop could probably fix it--in the event something does go wrong. Lets hope it doesn't.
Thanks for all the great info Greg!
mockware 11-26-07, 08:21 AM gregcube, I second the thanks for the information. One more question though. What does the display look like? Is is proprietary or a standard display mounted in the cabinet?
gregcube 11-26-07, 11:46 AM looks to be a standard tube -- the innards of one.
vibri2001 12-05-07, 01:19 PM Is there a dedicated forum for the Arcade Legends/Ultimate Arcade systems? I have tried Google and couldn't find any useful results other than this forum. I am having issues with my control panel and was wondering if it is a common issue. My warranty will be up soon and was wondering what to do once it expires. I will be calling the tech support number today but in six months or a year from now I would like to have a place to fall back on for support.
Is there a dedicated forum for the Arcade Legends/Ultimate Arcade systems? I have tried Google and couldn't find any useful results other than this forum. I am having issues with my control panel and was wondering if it is a common issue. My warranty will be up soon and was wondering what to do once it expires. I will be calling the tech support number today but in six months or a year from now I would like to have a place to fall back on for support.
I searched too and couldn't come up with anything and is why I made this thread.
There appears to be a few tech savvy people following this so maybe they can help you....
mbott1701 12-11-07, 11:32 AM What's wrong with your control panel?
The controls are from Happ, so it should be pretty easy to get replacements if need be.
Nice info on the usb sticks gregcube. I know that you did the dump using linux, but im running vista on my windows machine. I wonder since the ultracade uses the joshus os, if there would be any problems doing some dumps of the usb sticks with windoze. Use any special programs or just normal os copy? I have a game pack stick on the way, would like to make the right choice first go around. I suppose i could install linux and jump on the learning curve if need be, sure would be easier if i didnt HAVE to.......:D
gregcube 12-17-07, 03:23 AM Nice info on the usb sticks gregcube. I know that you did the dump using linux, but im running vista on my windows machine. I wonder since the ultracade uses the joshus os, if there would be any problems doing some dumps of the usb sticks with windoze. Use any special programs or just normal os copy? I have a game pack stick on the way, would like to make the right choice first go around. I suppose i could install linux and jump on the learning curve if need be, sure would be easier if i didnt HAVE to.......:D
I actually dumped the stick on my Mac. You can always try dumping the stick on Windows using Cygwin. You need to use dd -- it's a byte-for-byte dump.
See here: http://www.cygwin.com/
vibri2001 12-17-07, 04:01 PM What's wrong with your control panel?
The controls are from Happ, so it should be pretty easy to get replacements if need be.
None of the controls worked as well as no sound. After a number of converations with Robert (tech support for Chicago Gaming Co). I was able to fix it. There was a loose wire in one of the power harness connections going into the interface board. Very odd because the unit has not been moved since it found a home in our living room, and this issue just started within the last few weeks. Anyway, anyone having issues with their Arcade Legend 1 or Ultimate Arcade 1 units definately give them a call. Robert was very helpful and gave me lots of information about the unit while describing how to troubleshoot it.
Hey thx that post comes just in time. My two sticks i ordered just came today. I'll let ya know how it goes.
:D
So is there anyway to put mame roms onto this box? I can get an Arcade Legends 2 locally, which is great cause I save a lot in shipping and duty and brokerage and such.
But I'm a little hesitant to buy the unit as it doesn't appear there are any game packs for Arcade Legends 2 at this point and I really don't like the idea of not being able to expand the library.
Flex0012000 12-29-07, 08:47 PM Hello-Just got a Arcade Legends Machine off ebay, it has about 27 games on it. Said it was purchased in 2004, I am sure it is CD based. Any info on the games would be appreciated, not sure how long they will be available. Email me publicly, or privately. Looking for the folowing packs, assuming they will work? Thanks in advance!
***Pac Man Classics
***Lost Treasures Pack
***Midway Pack
gregcube 12-30-07, 04:04 PM Games (or roms) are stored on the computer's hard drive. Upgrade packs are available which copy roms from a USB stick/key to the drive. They seem to be encrypted and the computer inside runs a proprietary OS. I haven't found much documentation on that. However I've been playing with the upgrade packs as you'll notice in my earlier posts. I'm waiting on the arrival of others to further experiment.
vibri2001 12-31-07, 11:46 AM Gregcube>>where are you getting your games from? I have been trying to contact the seller listed earlier in this thread but have not had a response in the past couple of weeks (I imagine due to the holidays).
Gregcube>>where are you getting your games from? I have been trying to contact the seller listed earlier in this thread but have not had a response in the past couple of weeks (I imagine due to the holidays).
You tried this?
TonysGames@gmail.com
If all else fails, do a search on Ebay for "arcade legends" and it will hit on some game packs.
gnolivos 01-11-08, 12:34 PM Why would you need any of those additional games, if it already has Robotron?!:confused:
:D
Why would you need any of those additional games, if it already has Robotron?!:confused:
:D
The only ones I need are Donkey Kong Jr. and Jungle King!
GlennKL 01-12-08, 05:06 PM Also, FYI, Pacman, MsPac and Digdug are a little tricky yo use on the ultracade/arcade legends machines. The digital 8-way joysticks the cabinets use causes some "mis-moves." At least that has been my experience.
Is there no way that these 8-way joysticks can be reconfigured to 4-way joysticks for games that only use 4 directions?
GlennKL 01-14-08, 08:52 AM What are the main differences between AL1 and 2? I am seeing both of them for sale and reading through this thread it appears AL1 may have some games that are not on AL2? Is AL2 an upgrade in terms of hardware?
vibri2001 01-14-08, 11:31 AM You tried this?
TonysGames@gmail.com
If all else fails, do a search on Ebay for "arcade legends" and it will hit on some game packs.
I finally was able to reach Jim (he is the person who responded from the above email address). I placed my order last Wednesday and received my game pack (Midway Treasures 1) Friday. It installed easily and I now have 23 more wonderful games to play on my Ultimate Arcade 1 unit.
First post updated to show games/packs not compatible with cocktail version.
Anybody find any other games?
humanoidx 01-22-08, 12:44 PM I think I tapped out all that AL1 can do. Kinda ticked that AL2 has some games that are not backwards compatible, such as Burgertime and Double Dragon. I want those games.
nhanson 01-23-08, 05:41 PM I got an Ultracade used from a private party in Las Vegas. Really neat device! He gave me all the disks, but I noticed some of the discs aren't on the machine. I found the manual online and it appears that I need to keygen an install code from the machineID and the serial # on the cdrom. Is there a new site that I can do this with since the site in the manual doesn't work?
Anybody try this?
You could plug in an external HD with the downloaded MAME roms and boot to that and play all the mame games on this system! We can't tell you where to get these roms from places like mininova and with bit torrent or that with out much more work you can get them to work flawlessly on this well built box that uses standard HAPP controls and controller board with USB and PS2 interfaces.
http://cgi.*********/Arcade-Legends-Cocktail-mame-Multi-Game-System-9500-UR_W0QQitemZ360017159697QQihZ023QQcategoryZ13716QQrdZ1QQssPa geNameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m124
humanoidx 02-02-08, 03:25 AM That link didn't work, shamus. Post again. Personally I think whoever posted that info is full of crap, since the Joshua OS is a proprietary system, and doesn't use MAME.
That link didn't work, shamus. Post again. Personally I think whoever posted that info is full of crap, since the Joshua OS is a proprietary system, and doesn't use MAME.
It wont let me... its to Ebay.
It was some seller of the Arcade Legends.
Thanks!
humanoidx 02-07-08, 12:32 PM It wont let me... its to Ebay.
It was some seller of the Arcade Legends.
Thanks!
I found it. Yeah, the seller posts false information. He's full of it. Anyone finding any more games that work with AL1, please post in this thread.
madbare 02-25-08, 10:47 AM Hi guys,
I just got me an Ultimate Arcade 2+ on Friday. It appears to be the Ultimate Arcade 2 in the Golden Tee cabinet. It is the one from Costco. I picked it up off of ebay for $1200. It is a pretty nice unit. I opened it up and took a look inside and I can tell you there is not much in it. There is the monitor, a power supply and a small PCB. The PCB says "Hot Rod ArcadePC by Hanaho" and uses an Intel PXS270 chip on it. There is a SD card that has the firmware and games on it. All the video, controls and audio come off of this PCB. There is one big connector that all the controls connect to and it appears to be Jamma. So there is a ton of room to put a PC inside and you might be able to hook into the monitor and controls and have kind of a universal system. I did not pull the SD card to take a look at it to see what was on it. I am new the he whole mame thing and wanted to get something that was ready to go. From searching the web, it appears there is very little info available on these units. Hopefully we can modify these units. If anyone has anymore info on this system, please chime in. I did read that there will be an upgrade come June to add a lot more games to it and the Golden Tee Fore complete set was one of them. :D
Steve
humanoidx 02-25-08, 04:47 PM Hey madbare
Yeah, I played an Arcade Legends 2 last week. It's the same thing as 1 (which I have), but like you said, no PC inside, and a different interface. I wish the two were backwards/forwards compatible. You have some games I don't have (like Burgertime and Double Dragon series) and I have a lot you don't have...maybe about 150+ games that they will probably charge you for in the future. Sux big time.
madbare 02-26-08, 04:26 PM well after doing a little research, the cabinet is definitely a Jamma cabinet. So it looks like you would be able to hook any Jamma game up to it no problem. The only thing I saw is that this cabinet has stereo and the original Jamma standard is Mono, so there might be a slight mod there. I found a 1069 in 1 Jamma PCB from Jamma Boards dot com that is a PC motherboard based system with a Jamma connector and a hard drive full of games. It also support the 5th and 6th buttons but no trackball. Otherwise this thing is pretty much plug and play. Some other things I found are converters that will allow you to hook up your PC, xbox or ps3 systems to the Jamma connector so you can play games through the cabinet. This is sure looking like a nice base game to mod from and there is lots of room inside to add stuff. :D
vibri2001 03-03-08, 03:39 PM Does anyone know of a site which has a good selection of the instruction cards for the games available in our Arcade Legends/Ultimate Arcade units? What I'm looking for are pictures or .pdfs like this (http://www.hyperspacearcade.com/InstDo.jpg) or this (http://www.robotron-2084.co.uk/manuals/defender/defender_cocktail_instruction_card_us.pdf) that could be printed out and put in a binder for reference.
AmusementService 03-06-08, 06:03 PM If your Arcade Legends or Ultracade machine is having problems or needs service, please read this notice.
If you ship your computer to the factory for service, there is a very good chance that you will not get all of the games back that you had originally. This is because today they no longer have licenses to many games they had before. Consequently, they can no longer replace games they do not hold licensing for even though they had it in the past.
Do not reformat, reinstall or ship your game computer to the factory without checking here first.
Please feel free to email with any questions. Thank you
If your Arcade Legends or Ultracade machine is having problems or needs service, please read this notice.
If you ship your computer to the factory for service, there is a very good chance that you will not get all of the games back that you had originally. This is because today they no longer have licenses to many games they had before. Consequently, they can no longer replace games they do not hold licensing for even though they had it in the past.
Do not reformat, reinstall or ship your game computer to the factory without checking here first.
Please feel free to email with any questions. Thank you
Good to see you finally post here!
Will this happen if we reformat ourself or just if we send it in?
Can you give us any other insider info regarding the Arcade Legends I & II?
Whats the failure rate?
Any games coming soon?
Thanks!
madbare 03-11-08, 12:22 AM Guys,
I took the SD card out of the machine and stuck it in the laptop. It shows as blank and windows states that the card is not formatted. It must be in some other format? I clicked on properties and shows RAW format and 0 bytes capacity and 0 bytes used. Any ideas how we can take a look at this thing?
Steve :confused:
AmusementService 03-12-08, 02:43 PM Good to see you finally post here!
Will this happen if we reformat ourself or just if we send it in?
Can you give us any other insider info regarding the Arcade Legends I & II?
Whats the failure rate?
Any games coming soon?
Thanks!
It will happen no matter who reformats it. Reformatting will delete everything, period.
As long as your motherboard, processor and hard drive are the same, you can reinstall from your game keys. However, if any one item is different (for example if you had to replace your motherboard or cpu or hard drive) then the games will disappear from the hard drive and you can no longer install from the game keys.
There is a chance that even though the games are gone they can still be recovered. However, if the hard drive is reformatted, then the games are gone for good. That is why it is important NOT to reformat until absolutely necessary. If you are in this situation, send an email BEFORE reformatting, else you will be out of luck.
The failure rates are pretty low but they do happen.
Thanks!
Any news on new games?
mbott1701 03-13-08, 01:33 PM My Ultracade motherboard failed after only 4 months of getting the machine "new."
vibri2001 03-14-08, 10:51 AM Mbott:
What kind of issues are you experiencing?
mbott1701 03-14-08, 02:36 PM Mbott:
What kind of issues are you experiencing?
Nothing, now.
I got a replacement for the motherboard and it works again...for now.
Gamer01 03-27-08, 10:48 AM General info and experiences regarding Ultracades (kits) and Proton III computers for anyone who cares.... (i do NOT know about arcade legends) :
Before you read on, remember : DON't try to fix something that ain't broken, first diagnose and find the REAL problem if you have one !
You CAN change : the motherboard with one of the same type (or probably any mainboard with a Intel 815 PIII chipset with integrated Graphics, I replaced my little Proton III computer for a different desktop PC with normal PSU cause the original proton is way to week, lacks adequate cooling and was delivered with a 4 amp psu which is to weak for the unit and will damage the mainboard in the end.... check your capacitors ! )
You CAN change : memory modules. My advise is to use a low latency, low profile 256MB SDRAM DIMM in the outer memory slot of the Proton III. If you need to use two DIMM's make sure the contacts of the memory chips on the DIMM do not contact the little screw that holds the cd drive... it can shortcuit and damage the DIMM, i've seen it happen... If you suspect dimms to be faulty, use a diagnostic tool like MemTest which will run of a bootable cd and is free for download
You CAN change : processors. I changed my 700mhz for a 1000mhz PIII. Basically anything over 1000mhz (like Tualatin's) will do fine...
You CAN reformat and install as many times as you like, if you suspect something is wrong with your harddrive, run a non destructive harddrive diagnostic program. All harddrive vendors have such a tool ready for download that runs of a bootable cd-rom.
HOWEVER be sure to have ALL the original System and GamePack disks AND unlock keys !!!!!! Your MCID will normally not change when you reformat so if you have the above you will be fine....
You CAN improve : the cooling of your proton III computer. Take the front of (four little screws) This will make it possible for the air to flow through te front cooling your harddrive and mainboard better. Cutting out the drilled air inlet above the processor and making it the same size as the opening of the bracket that holds the JammaLYNX interface on top and mount a 8cm fan (mind airflow direction) will improve airflow drastically. HOWEVER more airflow means more DUST so MAINTAIN your system and clean when needed !
Do not take power from the PSU that came with the Proton III, instead take a different PSU to power the fan (and things as coin door lights)if you want mount an extra fan on the Proton III psu as that can hardly deliver the power to the protonIII as it is... (I've seen ProtonIII computers draw over 5 amps when installing games (cd drive running ) The PSU that comes with it is normally only rated for 4........
Also Regulate your psu to give 12.5 volts output instead of 12 (i set mine for 13) ... I've seen the PSU's drop to 10 / 11 volts when under load. 12,5 volts will make your fan run a bit faster keeping the inside cooler (cooler parts will also use less power as heat creates resistance) Remember: under-voltage can be just as bad or worse than over-voltage. example : 4 amps x 12,5 volts = 50 watts if the voltage drops to 10 volts then you will need 5 amps to get the 50 watts meaning your voltage regulator's will probably run above spec....
You CAN make : make backups of your installation- and gamepack- cd's (if possible by law offcourse) so you will not run into problems when restoring a harddrive.
You CAN NOT : install your game packs on a different harddrive OR clone your harddrive to another one if you do not have the UNLOCK CODES that will match your NEW MCID. Not even if it is exactly the same make and model cause every harddrive has a UNIQUE serial number (stored in the harddrive firmware). Every time you boot your MCID will be calculated from this unique serial number. Once you swap your drive your serial number and thus your MCID wil change making your UNLOCK codes OR locked / married usb stick useless meaning you will have to contact he manufacturer / service desk.
It is possible to install the software on a compact flash card and a IDEtoCF adapter if you prefer not have any moving parts :) , but then off course you will need new keys......
The above is based on my experience and knowledge of the Ultracade System and intended for people who wish to maintain or repair their Ultracade themselves.
Anything you will do is for your own responsibility !
Any questions are welcome...
GAME ON !
I posted this on another site, till I found you guys
Arcade Legends 3 coming soon (thats why no AL2 updates)
I love my AL2 (arcade legends 2) As to the feel, the look, sound etc.,, its the same to me, as it was in the late 70's, 80's, early 90's.
Do yourself a favor, and look at every game that is available on this AL2, and try to remember the original buttons, joystick, etc. For eg. "Karate Champ" you were able to fight your friend in 2 player mode because there was 4 joysticks. AL2 only has 2 joystciks, which means you can't fight one another. One player at a time. I believe someone mentioned "Tempest" already, however using a joystick is kinda funny.
If you are interested in purchasing one of these STOP!!!!! This AL2 has issues, that will probably not show up till after you purchased the game.
When playing "Double Dragon" with 2 players, the system slows down sometimes. Its like watching a slow motion film.
When you look at "1942", the screen looks a bit fuzzy.
My friend was playing the game "Burn'in Rubber" also known as Bump'n'Jump and lost the sound.
Playing "Asteroids", you have 3 buttons shoot, thrust, and hyperspace. The on screen menu will tell you which 3 buttons to use out of the 6(3 top, 3 bottom) buttons. The on screen menu will tell you to use the top 3 buttons, however you will find out afterwards that its the top 2 buttons and 1 bottom button that you need. Its not a big deal, however it gives you an idea of the work quality
It's happened twice, when I'm playing a game and all of sudden the whole screen goes black, error code/ message appears..Its not because of a power failure in the area.
I believe there are more issues with AL2, I haven't played every game.
With AL2, you can't buy any updates.
I strongly recommend you save your money for AL3,AL4,AL5 or look at some alternatives.
djjefft 04-15-08, 08:53 PM Hello all
I have and AL1 and just bought the Pac Family and DK pack from Tony's Games, thanks for the tip!
Installtion was easy.
BUT, I have not used the game in a while, and when it's on the menu, all is well, but once I get into the game, I get a weird video issue, where the video is actually flashing...makes it almost impossible to play.
Any suggestions to fix it?
The wife flipped out when I spend $350 on these games. She'll kill me if I have to have the unit repaired now.
HELP!
Jeff
Hello all
I have and AL1 and just bought the Pac Family and DK pack from Tony's Games, thanks for the tip!
Installtion was easy.
BUT, I have not used the game in a while, and when it's on the menu, all is well, but once I get into the game, I get a weird video issue, where the video is actually flashing...makes it almost impossible to play.
Any suggestions to fix it?
The wife flipped out when I spend $350 on these games. She'll kill me if I have to have the unit repaired now.
HELP!
Jeff
Did they always do that? Do any other games do that?
Mine play perfectly. Ive contacted them in the past and they have been very helpful. Give them a call.
djjefft 04-16-08, 09:58 AM Shamus
Thanks for the quick reply.
According to my kids, the arcade has been doing that for a while. It's not a direct result of adding the new games. Had I known, I would have figured out the fix before investing another $350 into the machine.
I actually have a video of the issue, but it's 7mb and I probably can't post it here and I'm not sure where I'd host it.
Thanks
Jeff
vibri2001 04-16-08, 11:18 AM Have you tried opening the unit and connecting it to an external monitor to troubleshoot?
mockware 04-16-08, 01:34 PM Dumb question probably but have you tried the vertical hold on the display?
djjefft 04-17-08, 11:53 AM All good suggestions. I have yet to pull it away from the wall and open it up from behind. Will try this weekend...supposed to rain here.
Here's a link to the video of what's happening: My video issues on my AL1 (http://www.kapugiweb.com/videos/ALvid.AVI)
Thanks all!
Jeff
vibri2001 04-17-08, 12:33 PM That video is very odd. The screen looks normal when it is showing the controls but flashes during the game selection menu and gameplay.
You could also try calling the tech support. My unit is an Ultimate Arcade 1 sold at Costco but built by Chicago Gaming Company (CGC). I spoke with Robert (their tech support person) a few months ago and he helped me diagnose the issue I was having and fix it (there was a loose wire in one of the power harnesses). I don't know for sure but would assume CGC also made the Arcade Legends units. There should be a number on the back panel of your unit for support. Let us know how things progress.
Theres also some display setting in the set up menu. Maybe one of the kids switched something?
djjefft 04-19-08, 06:02 PM Well, I contacted the place I bought it from (in FL, and I am not in DC), and he though it was a capacitor that was going and to hire a TV repairman.
So, I thought I'd open the back, see what was up.
Disconected the video and tried a computer monitor, but it was not compatible.
Then just looked around to see if anything was loose.
I was going to contact Chicago gaming next to get a second opinion before calling the TV repairman.
So, I moved the arcade back in to place, and turned it on. I work at a radio station and one of our old IT guys (Uncle Paulie) used to always say reboot reboot reboot and if that doesnt work, give it a good bang.
I had rebooted a gazillion times, so I decided to give it a bang...and YES...it worked.
Thanks Uncle Paulie!!!
And thanks to all for chiming in here.
Galaga and the DK series and Pac are a blast! Need to get my old skills back!
Jeff
I just bought Extreme Arcade model #9900 from sears for $599.00 with 50 games installed... ( I havent picked it up yet) I know the cabniet is not as big as arcade legends I ... but does anyone know if I can add on games??? I thought this was a good deal for the 50 games, but it dosent have some of my favorites.. Thanks
Bill22082 05-13-08, 04:58 AM Ok, the new Arcade Legends 2 machine has 125 games, but still missing quite a bit, like the Mr. Do! series which is important to me. I haven't made a purchase yet, but by the time I'm ready I'm afraid that the older models which had mr. do will be gone. Does anyone know if they will upgrade or make add-on packs for the new models like they did for the old ones? If not, I probably won't be interested in buying one at all.
Bill22082 05-13-08, 05:21 AM never mind, I read the thread and found my answer. AL2 is a crappy buy, no upgrades or add-ons, which may also be why it's cheaper than AL1. Is there any word on when the AL3 might be released? Tentative game list?
Gamer01 05-18-08, 07:22 AM what's the diffrence in hardware between AL1 and AL2, is it the same as ultracade's (pentium 3, 256mb on a 815 chipset) ?
Cameron 06-13-08, 07:34 PM Probably not too hard at all to do that.
mockware 06-20-08, 03:24 PM never mind, I read the thread and found my answer. AL2 is a crappy buy, no upgrades or add-ons, which may also be why it's cheaper than AL1. Is there any word on when the AL3 might be released? Tentative game list?
Well, I got a postcard in the mail today from Chicago Gaming. A new Game Pack for my Ultimate Arcade 2 is available. No Mr. Do but it has 45 Games including Double Dragon, Gun Smoke, Rampage and Strider. I called them up and ordered it. I am such an addict.
madbare 06-29-08, 12:06 AM Well, I got a postcard in the mail today from Chicago Gaming. A new Game Pack for my Ultimate Arcade 2 is available. No Mr. Do but it has 45 Games including Double Dragon, Gun Smoke, Rampage and Strider. I called them up and ordered it. I am such an addict.
How much was the upgrade? How do you do the upgrade? Thanks!
Steve :D
Just my opinion - I have been leaning toward a multi-game video setup to compliment our commercial arcade and pinball games but after a lot of research will probably buy a commercial cabinet and just make my own.
The interfaces are available to connect player controls including roller ball to a PC and the game emulators and roms are all over the place.
Most of the serious home players on forums I frequent chided me for considering the purchase or a manufacturered machine and I have been playing zillions of game ROMs with all game system emulators quite happily on my PC for a couple of years though I have found a commercial coin-op multigame from an Operator for around $1500 U.S. that accepts 40 game packs and it is tempting.
My personal experience is game equipment - whether pinball, arcade or video - manufactured specifically for home use just can't compete with the quality and reliability and longevity of coin-op commercial platforms.
Foosball is the perfect example - play one of those home use foos tables hard for a year and compare it to condition of a good coin-op commercial table that has been played hard for 15 years (as our has) and see what the home use junk looks like in comparison.
mockware 06-29-08, 09:41 AM How much was the upgrade? How do you do the upgrade? Thanks!
Steve :D
$495.00 - a little steep and there are more I wish it had but the games on it are more mainstream than some of the original 120 on the machine and it has 5 that are on my must have list.
I haven't received it yet but they told me that I will be replacing a memory card. I'll post once I've put it in.
repstein2 06-29-08, 11:18 PM I figured since no one has posted them yet, I'd list off the new games.
Avengers (Capcom)
Battle Chopper (Irem)
Bionic Commando (Capcom)
Bogey Manor (Capcom)
Cameltry (Taito)
Carrier Air Wing (Capcom)
Caveman Ninja (G-Mode)
China Gate (Million)
Dragon Breed (Irem)
Double Dragon (Million)
Double Dragon 2 (Million)
Double Dragon 3 (Million)
Empire City: 1931 (Seibu Kaihatsu)
Exed Exes (Capcom)
F-1 Dream (Capcom)
Food Fight (Atari)
Forgotten Worlds (Capcom)
Gun Smoke (Capcom)
Gate of Doom (G-Mode)
Golden Tee Golf (Incredible Technologies)
Gallop (Irem)
Hammerin' Harry (Irem)
Kengo (Irem)
Legendary Wings (Capcom)
Legend of Hero Tonma (Irem)
Lot Lot (Irem)
Major Title (Irem)
Ninja Spirit (Irem)
Ninja Kids (Taito)
Pirate Pete (Taito)
Pirate Ship HiGeMaru (Capcom)
Plotting (Taito)
Rampage (Midway)
Root Beer Tapper (Midway)
Strider (Capcom)
Shot Rider (Seibu Kaihatsu)
The Battle Road (Irem)
The Combatribes (Million)
The King of Dragons (Capcom)
Three Wonders (Capcom)
Tiger Road (Capcom)
Trojan (Capcom)
Tropical Angel (Irem)
X Multiply (Irem)
Zippy Racer (Irem)
To be honest, I'm a little confused as to why it took so long to get this release out. This thing was delayed so many times they didn't even bother to update their website again with a new date the last few times.
I also don't understand what was so hard to license some of the other games they've had previously.
Personally, I'd like to see Marble Madness, Defender, 720o, Gauntlet, Paperboy, Robotron 2084, Spy Hunter, Super Sprint, and the Dragon's Lair/Space Ace games.
Of course Pac-Man, Ms. Pac-Man, Mario Bros, Donkey Kong, etc I understand the licensing may be prohibitive and they prefer to sell the dedicated cabinets for those. I get that. But the other games were released on their other multi-game platforms, so why can't we get them on here?
I have a spreadsheet I put together a while ago that lists all the base games included plus additional gamepacks that can be found for Ultimate Arcade 1, Ultimate Arcade 2/2+, Arcade Legends, Arcade Legends 2, Ultracade and Global Arcade Classic machines. The URL is http://web.hostleasing.net/~repstein/arcadecomparison.xls but be forewarned that I have not added the latest UA2/UA2+ game packs into this spreadsheet. I'll do this sometime this week and publish it at the same URL.
Also available is a game pack for Arcade Legends 2. There are 20 games in this game pack. From what I understand, 25 of the 125 games in Arcade Legends 2 that are not part of the base package in Ultimate Arcade 2/2+'s 100 games are part of the Ultimate Arcade 2/2+ game pack plus the additional 20 for both machines. Basically, the UL2/2+ game disk upgrade brings you up to an upgraded AL2, so both machines are equal in the games they offer. I could be slightly off here, but this is what I've gathered. I'm trying to acquire a list from Chicago Gaming for AL2's game disk upgrade to confirm this.
The price for the Ultimate Arcade 2/2+ game disk is $395 + $10 shipping and handling. The price for the Arcade Legends 2 game disk is $295 + $10 shipping and handling.
Lastly, I hope they added a screen saver to this latest version. I presume there were some code updates as well. I have a UA2 at home and one in my office and the one at home I leave off all the time for fear of screen burn. The one in my office has horrible screen burn and I don't think there is much I could do about it. By adding a simple screen saver (that changes the screens often) would make me a happy camper.
Randy
Thanks Repstein.
Any original Arcade Legends game packs coming out?
vibri2001 06-30-08, 06:07 PM I found it. Yeah, the seller posts false information. He's full of it. Anyone finding any more games that work with AL1, please post in this thread.
Here are some additional packs I have heard of (most from the Tony's game email address earlier):
Arcade Pack 7
Dig Dug
Galaga
Jungle King
Ms. Pac Man
Pac Man
Q*Bert
Blast Pack
Defender
Joust
Klax
Marble Madness
Quantum
Rampart
Robotron
Stargate (Defender II)
Tapper
Tempest Tubes
Toobin'
Fantastic 4
Donkey Kong
Galaga
Ms, Pac Man
Pac Man
Jungle Hunt and Popeye combo
Jungle Hunt
Popeye
Mario Bros., Donkey Kong and Popeye combo
Donkey Kong
Mario Bros.
Popeye
mockware 06-30-08, 06:33 PM $495.00 - a little steep and there are more I wish it had but the games on it are more mainstream than some of the original 120 on the machine and it has 5 that are on my must have list.
I haven't received it yet but they told me that I will be replacing a memory card. I'll post once I've put it in.
Ok. Upgrade was simple enough. Take the controller panel off and replace the SD memory card on the PCB board with the new one I received. When it came up we were right back to the normal menu system but it listed the extra games along with the originals.
Thanks repstein for typing out the list. I'm too lazy. If you are right on the price list, I paid an extra 90 bucks for jumping right on it. Don't tell the wife.
The setup jumped back to the defaults and I found that the Controller testing looks different I believe - better - so there were code changes I think. The main menu interface is exactly the same in appearance. It still says 100 games currently loaded. The second joystick can no longer be used to scroll through the games. Don't think you have your screen saver. No option in the setup - options look the same - and it's been sitting idle for 20 minutes now and looks the same.
repstein2 06-30-08, 08:58 PM If you paid more than $405 with shipping, I'd call them pronto and get that corrected. I think you're mistaken. Also, the older version does not let you move through the menu with the right joystick either. Just the left joystick and the trackball.
Randy
vibri2001 06-30-08, 09:19 PM Im pretty sure they were removed... dont worry, Karate Champ isnt the same without 2 joysticks.
I have Karate Champ on my Ultimate Arcade I and it uses both joysticks.
repstein2 07-06-08, 01:36 AM Ok, I have the list of games included with the Arcade Legends 2 game pack now:
Avengers (Capcom)
Bionic Commando (Capcom)
Bogey Manor (Capcom)
Carrier Air Wing (Capcom)
Double Dragon 3 (Million)
Exed Exes (Capcom)
F-1 Dream (Capcom)
Forgotten Worlds (Capcom)
Gun Smoke (Capcom)
Gate of Doom (G-Mode)
Legendary Wings (Capcom)
Pirate Ship HiGeMaru (Capcom)
Rampage (Midway)
Root Beer Tapper (Midway)
Strider (Capcom)
The Comatribes (Million)
The King of Dragons (Capcom)
Three Wonders (Capcom)
Tiger Road (Capcom)
Trojan (Capcom)
As I said previously, this upgrade is $295 + $10 shipping/handling. I've seen some dealers selling it for $275, so do some searches and I'm sure you'll find some.
-Randy
I have Karate Champ on my Ultimate Arcade I and it uses both joysticks.
The Arcade Legends only have one joystick.
vibri2001 07-06-08, 02:50 PM The product manula on the Chicago gaming site shows two joysticks.
http://www.chicago-gaming.com/Brochures/Arcade_Legends_Manual_Rev3c.pdf
Are there different models for the Arcade Legends units?
The product manula on the Chicago gaming site shows two joysticks.
http://www.chicago-gaming.com/Brochures/Arcade_Legends_Manual_Rev3c.pdf
Are there different models for the Arcade Legends units?
Thats one per player, not two per player which is what the game needs. I don't know if you can use both in one player mode though. I have the cocktail version so its impossible.:D
kennyg1972 07-13-08, 05:35 PM i have an arcade legends machine which is pc based. could i remove the original pc and install a new pc and run mame??? if so that would be awsome!!! can this be done & how complicated would it be? all comments welcome........thanks
Monoplex 07-13-08, 07:40 PM I bought an arcade legends 2 and while it has served me well, I wish I would have bought an X-Arcade. It not only has more games, but it has more popular ones than the AL2.
The AL2 makers are trying to sell an upgrade for $250 which, IIRC, contain zero games that you can't play for free on Game Tap.
Were it not for the hassle of trying to move a multi-hundred pound machine up the stairs and sell it, it would be gone tomorrow.
cinortcele 09-25-08, 07:38 PM Is this a good deal? Does anyone know how much these went for new?
eBay Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200256805136)
whiskey > work 09-26-08, 10:51 AM Is this a good deal? Does anyone know how much these went for new?
eBay Link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200256805136)
seems a bit shady. The seller doesn't seem too confident it will work..
mockware 09-27-08, 09:30 AM Definitely won't work for the UA2 model. The UA2 model uses a SD memory card.
BigShowGM 10-18-08, 10:30 AM Hi all! I've just bought a Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail and right away began hunting for upgrade game packs (especially Dragon's Lair!) and was surprised to find that most of the vendors are listing them as discontinued or no longer available. I'm looking to fill this with everything I can find. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance...
Hi all! I've just bought a Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail and right away began hunting for upgrade game packs (especially Dragon's Lair!) and was surprised to find that most of the vendors are listing them as discontinued or no longer available. I'm looking to fill this with everything I can find. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Thanks in advance...
Welcome!
Read the thread.... especially post 71.
BigShowGM 10-19-08, 10:01 AM Welcome!
Read the thread.... especially post 71.
WOW! Thanks for the tip! They responded with a HUGE list. I'm waiting for a price list now and I'm gonna load up!
Meanwhile, I found a dealer locally that had a few upgrade game packs. I bought a 50 Game Mega Pack, Midway Classics 1 Pack and a Dragon's Lair Pack from them. The Mega (Key Only) and the Midway (Key Only) Packs loaded flawlessly - but the Dragon's Lair Pack (Key + 3 CD Roms) would not load. I went back and the company GAVE me another Pack (so now I have two!) - but the second copy is doing the same thing. No luck installing! This is a very reputable dealer and everything was new in the factory original boxes, so I don't suspect any monkey business with the keys.
Here is some info on what I've got and done:
I have the Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail (originally came with 50 games)
OS Version is 3.02
As per the installation instruction:
- I placed the Dragon's Lair Install CD #1 into the cdrom
- powered down the machine
- waited a few seconds
- powered up the machine
- attached the key to the USB cable
- observed that the key lights up solid, then flashes, then goes solid again
- that's it! - nothing else happens - it just never loads.
Like I said, I now have two copies of this kit. Two sets of disks and two keys. I've tried everything I can think of - any help guys?
WOW! Thanks for the tip! They responded with a HUGE list. I'm waiting for a price list now and I'm gonna load up!
Meanwhile, I found a dealer locally that had a few upgrade game packs. I bought a 50 Game Mega Pack, Midway Classics 1 Pack and a Dragon's Lair Pack from them. The Mega (Key Only) and the Midway (Key Only) Packs loaded flawlessly - but the Dragon's Lair Pack (Key + 3 CD Roms) would not load. I went back and the company GAVE me another Pack (so now I have two!) - but the second copy is doing the same thing. No luck installing! This is a very reputable dealer and everything was new in the factory original boxes, so I don't suspect any monkey business with the keys.
Here is some info on what I've got and done:
I have the Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail (originally came with 50 games)
OS Version is 3.02
As per the installation instruction:
- I placed the Dragon's Lair Install CD #1 into the cdrom
- powered down the machine
- waited a few seconds
- powered up the machine
- attached the key to the USB cable
- observed that the key lights up solid, then flashes, then goes solid again
- that's it! - nothing else happens - it just never loads.
Like I said, I now have two copies of this kit. Two sets of disks and two keys. I've tried everything I can think of - any help guys?
Maybe you have a version for Arcade Legends 2 or Ultimate. Mine installed fine.
cinortcele 10-19-08, 11:43 AM pm sent
WOW! Thanks for the tip! They responded with a HUGE list. I'm waiting for a price list now and I'm gonna load up!
Meanwhile, I found a dealer locally that had a few upgrade game packs. I bought a 50 Game Mega Pack, Midway Classics 1 Pack and a Dragon's Lair Pack from them. The Mega (Key Only) and the Midway (Key Only) Packs loaded flawlessly - but the Dragon's Lair Pack (Key + 3 CD Roms) would not load. I went back and the company GAVE me another Pack (so now I have two!) - but the second copy is doing the same thing. No luck installing! This is a very reputable dealer and everything was new in the factory original boxes, so I don't suspect any monkey business with the keys.
Here is some info on what I've got and done:
I have the Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail (originally came with 50 games)
OS Version is 3.02
As per the installation instruction:
- I placed the Dragon's Lair Install CD #1 into the cdrom
- powered down the machine
- waited a few seconds
- powered up the machine
- attached the key to the USB cable
- observed that the key lights up solid, then flashes, then goes solid again
- that's it! - nothing else happens - it just never loads.
Like I said, I now have two copies of this kit. Two sets of disks and two keys. I've tried everything I can think of - any help guys?
BigShowGM 10-19-08, 04:00 PM Maybe you have a version for Arcade Legends 2 or Ultimate. Mine installed fine.
I don't think this one is a AL2 or a Ultimate since it only came with the 50 games. I believe all of the AL2's and Ultimate's came with around 100 games standard. But even still - wouldn't it install anyway?
To your recollection, was your install procedure the same as I outlined?
One more thing, do you know of a way to test the cdrom so I can verify it is reading the discs?
Thanks again!
BigShowGM 10-19-08, 04:05 PM Maybe you have a version for Arcade Legends 2 or Ultimate. Mine installed fine.
Sorry - just re-read your post and I misunderstood what you meant. Both boxes say Arcade Legends 1.0 or higher.
Thanks
Sorry - just re-read your post and I misunderstood what you meant. Both boxes say Arcade Legends 1.0 or higher.
Thanks
Sorry, dont recall how i did it. I just followed the instructions and it worked. Cant find instructions right now. Try asking the guy at the email i gave you. Did he have any new games not posted on the first page of this thread?
BigShowGM 10-21-08, 07:57 PM I found a dealer locally that had a few upgrade game packs. I bought a 50 Game Mega Pack, Midway Classics 1 Pack and a Dragon's Lair Pack from them. The Mega (Key Only) and the Midway (Key Only) Packs loaded flawlessly - but the Dragon's Lair Pack (Key + 3 CD Roms) would not load. I went back and the company GAVE me another Pack (so now I have two!) - but the second copy is doing the same thing. No luck installing! This is a very reputable dealer and everything was new in the factory original boxes, so I don't suspect any monkey business with the keys.
Here is some info on what I've got and done:
I have the Arcade Legends 1 Cocktail (originally came with 50 games)
OS Version is 3.02
As per the installation instruction:
- I placed the Dragon's Lair Install CD #1 into the cdrom
- powered down the machine
- waited a few seconds
- powered up the machine
- attached the key to the USB cable
- observed that the key lights up solid, then flashes, then goes solid again
- that's it! - nothing else happens - it just never loads.
Like I said, I now have two copies of this kit. Two sets of disks and two keys. I've tried everything I can think of - any help guys?
Thanks to the generous troubleshooting tips from Jim at Tony's Games, I managed to complete the installation of my Dragon's Lair Pack. Turns out I had a dead BIOS battery and a bad ribbon cable on my CDROM drive.
Once I replaced the CR2032 battery, booted into BIOS to reset the boot order and replaced that bad ribbon cable, my AL1 started begging for the Dragon's Lair discs! Every disc loaded without issue and now I'm swinging my sword to save the Princess (don't try to analyze that)!
Thanks to all who offered suggestions - especially Jim. He is a Rock Star in Arcade Legend Land...All Hail Jim!
BigShowGM 11-02-08, 09:04 AM Ok - I may have gotten carried away, but I bought out the discontinued inventory from a local factory authorized vendor. I have a total of about 20 new authentic game packs and have put a few on ebay to try my luck. Dragon's Lair, Mega Pack and Midway Treasures 1 are all running at no reserve if anybody is interested!
I'm not trying to get rich - I'm just hoping to cover my costs and keep a set for myself. Any help spreading the word would be appreciated!
Here is the link: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bigshowauctions
I hope it is ok to post this here - if not please let me know. I'm not looking to make any enemies! - Thanks!
cinortcele 11-02-08, 07:01 PM pm sent
Ok - I may have gotten carried away, but I bought out the discontinued inventory from a local factory authorized vendor. I have a total of about 20 new authentic game packs and have put a few on ebay to try my luck. Dragon's Lair, Mega Pack and Midway Treasures 1 are all running at no reserve if anybody is interested!
I'm not trying to get rich - I'm just hoping to cover my costs and keep a set for myself. Any help spreading the word would be appreciated!
Here is the link: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bigshowauctions
I hope it is ok to post this here - if not please let me know. I'm not looking to make any enemies! - Thanks!
rampado 12-24-08, 07:19 PM Hi...I just bought an Arcade Legends 2. I have started looking through the threads, and seem to find some conflicting information. I hope one of you can help me out.
Is AL2 upgradable with game packs ? I visited the website (Chicago Gaming Corporation) and it appears AL 1 is upgradable, but not sure about 2. I seem to read about people having game packs for AL2 on this thread, but would like to know for sure if they are available.
The game came with 125 games, but there are a few classics I would like to get like Pac-Man, Dragons Lair, plus others.
Thanks in advance for any help clarifying this.
cinortcele 12-24-08, 11:23 PM Good Luck on finding the classics. There is an upgrade. Seems like it was about 300 but contains crap. The AL3 will be out soon.
BigShowGM 12-25-08, 12:13 PM Hi...I just bought an Arcade Legends 2. I have started looking through the threads, and seem to find some conflicting information. I hope one of you can help me out.
Is AL2 upgradable with game packs ? I visited the website (Chicago Gaming Corporation) and it appears AL 1 is upgradable, but not sure about 2. I seem to read about people having game packs for AL2 on this thread, but would like to know for sure if they are available.
The game came with 125 games, but there are a few classics I would like to get like Pac-Man, Dragons Lair, plus others.
Thanks in advance for any help clarifying this.
Welcome!
Read the thread.... especially post 71.
barhoram 01-19-09, 11:29 PM I tried a little experiment with my Arcade Legends machine. I hooked a seperate PC up, and connected the joysticks (from the back) to the keyboard port of the PC. I can control a MAME fine. (And was even playing Galaga!!). However, when I connnected the Mame PC to the Arcade Legends monitor, I can not get a stable picture on the monitor, it is distorted horizontally....like it needs a de-gauss or something. Any ideas?? I tried different resoutions, etc on the PC..but couldn't get it to hold on the monitor.
cinortcele 01-20-09, 07:33 AM I tried a little experiment with my Arcade Legends machine. I hooked a seperate PC up, and connected the joysticks (from the back) to the keyboard port of the PC. I can control a MAME fine. (And was even playing Galaga!!). However, when I connnected the Mame PC to the Arcade Legends monitor, I can not get a stable picture on the monitor, it is distorted horizontally....like it needs a de-gauss or something. Any ideas?? I tried different resoutions, etc on the PC..but couldn't get it to hold on the monitor.
Your PC video card is going to be running at a much higher Hz range than needed for the 15kHz Monitor found in the Arcade Legends. You would need a special Arcade video card. They sell them online but I doubt you could find one local.
cinortcele 01-20-09, 04:20 PM Ultimarc (http://www.ultimarc.com/avgainf.html)
Here is one of many. A bit pricey at almost $90 but they are a good company.
jimbo49735 02-16-09, 08:56 AM hey guys new to this site and arcade legends i bought a new 2006 unit at a store that is going out of business. with out much research i bought it based on what the salesman told me .now mind you i am not unhappy with the game i love it so do my kids .but why i bought it was i was told it was upgradeable to 999 games ok thats good but i was interested because i could get galaga which i have wanted since i was i kid. so here is the trouble i cant return it and i cant afford another game any help on how to get galaga would be apprecaited
thanks so much jim
jimbo49735@yahoo.com
cinortcele 02-16-09, 02:49 PM hey guys new to this site and arcade legends i bought a new 2006 unit at a store that is going out of business. with out much research i bought it based on what the salesman told me .now mind you i am not unhappy with the game i love it so do my kids .but why i bought it was i was told it was upgradeable to 999 games ok thats good but i was interested because i could get galaga which i have wanted since i was i kid. so here is the trouble i cant return it and i cant afford another game any help on how to get galaga would be apprecaited
thanks so much jim
jimbo49735@yahoo.com
If you are asking if someone has Galaga they can send you the easy answer is No. Besides the legality issue the way games are loaded makes it impossible to share between machines, unless of course you know what you are doing. But you would have to have a new unused flash drive and those packs were fairly rare.
As for 999 games, that must be some theoretical limit as they have never come close to offering that many games and there is plenty of space on the internal hard drive for more than that. Your best shot is to find someone that has one left in their stock and just bite the bullet. You can get some good deals if you look hard enough.
Or you can replace your hard drive and put Windows and MAME on it and have over 4000 games on it.
barhoram 02-19-09, 07:45 AM Anyone interested in a PC (XP based) that will work with your arcade legends game to run MAME, Nintendo, N64, SNES, etc games, PM me.
My friends original arcade legends pc died, and we set out to design a drop-in replacement. Works unbelievablly well. We've got an extra one that we built. Visual Pinball and PinMame are incredible. So is NBA Jam :) I will be swapping mine out over the weekend.
arcadestuff 03-01-09, 10:14 AM I took apart my arcade legends and did the following. (bought a hard drive selector, installed a 500 gig sata with converter to ide). Installed windows xp. So now, before the unit powers on, you can choose which hard drive to boot from. MAME + Ultracade without a second pc.
Total cost about 120-150 dollars pending selector and harddrive you choose.
Have fun, it works easy.
PS: My unit has a dell 128M ram, 40 gig hard drive in a generic chasis. They emulate a jamma harness with a usb trackball.
Interesting enough, the unit has 12" at the base you could slide a second pc in if you want and then buy one of those belkin control 2 pc's with 2 ps2 links (usb, etc).
Post more later.. Toodles.
akastaff 03-12-09, 01:15 PM I have just bought a cab and sat inside is a Ultracade machine & I/O. Initially it wouldnt power up but after a PSU change it came to life. The CD drive contained a system Install CD and the machine was booted up from it and the Format & Install open selected, all went well and the OS installed and up popped the Operators Menu.
Now would seem there are no games initially installed and after some reading there appears to be a missing 80+ Game Pack CD ?. Looking at the contents of the install CD there is a directory with a load of games in it, presumably to be installed.... soooo.
Tried the ADD Games bit of the menu, up pops the MCID and Enter Code...
Now I'm stumped, no unlock code , the OS installed is V3.52.
Is there somewhere I can call to get the unlock code generated ?, believe it was once done via the web.
I'm very tech minded but have no experience of these units though would be a shame to ditch it.
Any help, advice etc would be greatly appreiciated.
Thx in advance.
cinortcele 03-12-09, 01:55 PM Contact GlobalVR at (408)597-3435 and ask for 'tech support'
I have just bought a cab and sat inside is a Ultracade machine & I/O. Initially it wouldnt power up but after a PSU change it came to life. The CD drive contained a system Install CD and the machine was booted up from it and the Format & Install open selected, all went well and the OS installed and up popped the Operators Menu.
Now would seem there are no games initially installed and after some reading there appears to be a missing 80+ Game Pack CD ?. Looking at the contents of the install CD there is a directory with a load of games in it, presumably to be installed.... soooo.
Tried the ADD Games bit of the menu, up pops the MCID and Enter Code...
Now I'm stumped, no unlock code , the OS installed is V3.52.
Is there somewhere I can call to get the unlock code generated ?, believe it was once done via the web.
I'm very tech minded but have no experience of these units though would be a shame to ditch it.
Any help, advice etc would be greatly appreiciated.
Thx in advance.
akastaff 03-12-09, 05:31 PM OK had a word with Global and they gave me 2 part numbers, one for a new OS disk 3.9 and the 86 game base pack CD.
What I am puzzled about is the System CD I have which re-installed 3.52 OS flawless also has an UPGRADE directory on it, this appears to contain 134 game files all with the extension .GAM and 2 other files, one being the CDKey which is all 0's and the file ALL.PAK ????
Surely these are games but how to get them from the CD to the machine is a mystery, begining to wonder if it is even a legit OS disk and not some "hacked" one !!!!
Any clues ?, cos I'm baffled and got a nice system that does nothing :confused:
cinortcele 03-12-09, 06:09 PM So they didn't help you? Try:
Robert Kelly
Chicago Gaming Company
Technical Support
(708) 780-0070 ex. 4851
Can you post a pic of the CD? And respond with a directory listing of the root directory.
OK had a word with Global and they gave me 2 part numbers, one for a new OS disk 3.9 and the 86 game base pack CD.
What I am puzzled about is the System CD I have which re-installed 3.52 OS flawless also has an UPGRADE directory on it, this appears to contain 134 game files all with the extension .GAM and 2 other files, one being the CDKey which is all 0's and the file ALL.PAK ????
Surely these are games but how to get them from the CD to the machine is a mystery, begining to wonder if it is even a legit OS disk and not some "hacked" one !!!!
Any clues ?, cos I'm baffled and got a nice system that does nothing :confused:
jeffsandquist 03-22-09, 11:23 AM I own an Ultimate Arcade, I love the fact that it just works (solid state) and no dealing with PC boot times, etc.
The game collection is lacking though. Has anyone been through the process of using the fact that it has JAMMA connections to use a board like this in it?
jammaboards.com/store/1069-in-1-games-family-multigame-system/prod_243.html
SOSFUERHOLZER 04-22-09, 02:24 PM does anyone know where (other than ebay) to find add on games for the arcade legends 1 machine?
cinortcele 04-22-09, 04:15 PM search google but the best place is ebay. I have filled mine up for a fraction of the cost of just 1 at retail pricing.
does anyone know where (other than ebay) to find add on games for the arcade legends 1 machine?
post #71
Vboy6575 07-31-09, 02:40 PM I am trying to find the Neo Geo Game pack for Arcade Legends but can not locate it. Does anyone know where I can buy it?
Thanks-
Jason
v_boy@hotmail.com
Vboy6575 08-04-09, 11:19 PM Got it. Thanks Guys!
humanoidx 08-19-09, 04:33 PM Well, isn't this nice? :mad:
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2009/08/in_depth_exploring_ultracades.php
Looks like were all going to court!
whiskey > work 08-19-09, 05:21 PM i ain't readin all that
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