I have been using the spyder and calman to calibrate crt rptv but do not like the results.I am able to get d65...x=312 and y=329 but eventhough I have d65 and pretty much 6500k from 20-80 ire I see alot of green in the picture.I have also done the color decoder thingy...for blue,red and green everything lines up good but still see green in the picture especially the skin tones look orangish-greenish....any ideas why this is so?

Greetings

Green in the bright area or the dark area? Time to compromise.

Regards

Well I see it in skin tones mostly,thats what bothers me the most....the set is hitachi...if I leave it as is..dark scenes are very very blue.....I noticed with this set...the cuts for all temps are the same the only difference is in drives....thinking that hitachi calibrated these sets differently than in the past?Why so much blue in the g2 voltage??

Is this a spyder 2? You might have a bum unit (or it's not calibrated well). If the meter is reading D65k, you might need a comparator to make sure it's really close. If you're seeing blues in your darks and greens in skin tone, then somethings wrong. What input did you use the spyder on, DVD? What input are you seeing problems on, DVD or cable, etc.

jeff

if the gray scale is accurate, it is time to revisit your:
1. color decoding, perhaps a simple adjustment of the tint control
2. consider your source
3. consider therapy as your obsessed with a color sku that isnt present (:-) )

3. consider therapy as your obsessed with a color sku that isnt present (:-) )I particularly like this one! All too often folks "want" to see color a certain way - even when the director of the program had a different "vision". I have often seen (and appreciated) programs that had non-standard lighting.

I particularly like this one! All too often folks "want" to see color a certain way - even when the director of the program had a different "vision". I have often seen (and appreciated) programs that had non-standard lighting.

Very true. The absolute worst thing to do would be to do grayscale and color decoder alignment, then try to assess the results by watching "The Matrix". Its color palette was purposely skewed green, and if you didn't know this it would ruin your day...

I suggest you run window/field patterns in the lower IRE range, below the ability of the sensor. You might just see a very visible shift toward green at, say, 5 IRE. If that's what you have, you will have to sacrifice the accuracy at 20 IRE (or whatever your low point is) and eyeball it. It might end up measuring worse, but looking better.

Color temp on all temps read 16k at 30...high,warm,standard and b/w....20 ire is well tooo hot to even get a reading.So I have to bump up green alot to get it in the ballpark of d65 at 30 ire...and by the way I dont own the matrix...lol.

I will check the lower windows...I should clarify that skin tones are I guess the more accurate description is an orangish color?

hi
I typically show my clients what the tint control does while viewing a redheaded model named Jennifer off of Video Essentials. When you adjust the tint control one way Jennifer starts to pinken up then on the extreme side goes purple. On the other side of the tint control, she will start to go olive then green on the extreme side.
If you are concerned about skin tones, I would take the color down a couple of clicks then readjust the tint control.
Happy tweeking!

Gregg

I will try that gregg...that is what I have been using to do greyscale with...VE...I also use AVIA for all other adjustments..color/tint,brightness,etc....

I was working on the set last night and want to know if "Good night and Good luck" is a good film to see if the set is producing good black and white.Thanks

I was working on the set last night and want to know if "Good night and Good luck" is a good film to see if the set is producing good black and white.ThanksYes - but you can always turn the color control to "0" or, if feeding signal by component, unplug the Pr & Pb leads.