Artwood
02-04-07, 09:17 PM
CES has come and gone. Does anyone know which Flat Panel sets of any type technology will accept a 1080p/24 signal and display it as a perfect multiple of either 1080p/48 or 1080p/72 or 1080p/96 or 1080p/120?
I mean what's the purpose of HD-DVD or Blue Ray if you have to suffer from judder?
Any submissions of sets that can accomplish the aforementioned feat that are on sale now or will probably be on sale before the end of the year would be most welcome!
Artwood
02-05-07, 05:47 PM
this must be a hard question to answer. I had heard that the upcoming pioneer Plasma will refresh at 72Hz and that some Fujitsu plasmas will do 72Hz but I don't knowq which ones and that there are some upcoming LCDS that will refresh at 120Hz.
Does anyone know of any others and does anyone know of any specific model numbers that will accept 1080p/24 and display it as a perfect multiple?
Artwood
02-06-07, 05:25 PM
Does anyone know even just the alt Panel LCDs that will be supporting 120Hz in 2007?
Here's a list of all the 120Hz LCDs I've heard of:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/guide-to-120hz-hdtvs-which-sets-have-that-magic-number-233642.php
Additionally, I believe the 2007 Toshiba Regza Cinema series will have the 120hz too, see here:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/07/toshiba-updates-regza-lcd-lineup-120hz-deep-color-and-xvycc/
Here are some more from LG & Samsung:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/05/lg-announces-20-new-lcds-for-ces-2007/
http://www.engadgethd.com/2006/08/20/samsung-announces-biggest-consumer-lcd-available-70-inch-1080p/
Hopefully LG will also include the 120Hz tech on this guy:
http://www.aving.net/usa/news/default.asp?mode=read&c_num=35258&C_Code=09&SP_Num=0&mn_name_sub=mostpop
- dale
OP,
Thanks for starting this thread (I was going to start one tonight!).
Would also like to add:
w/1:1 pixel mapping
to the list.
Dale,
Thanks for the links
&
welcome to the forum.
this must be a hard question to answer. I had heard that the upcoming pioneer Plasma will refresh at 72Hz and that some Fujitsu plasmas will do 72Hz but I don't know which ones and that there are some upcoming LCDS that will refresh at 120Hz.
Does anyone know of any others and does anyone know of any specific model numbers that will accept 1080p/24 and display it as a perfect multiple?
The literature on the $18,000 65" 1080p PDP, ready to be sold at the end of this month, says it has "a 24p/30p mode for film based sources". Given the price of the display, I'm guessing the it will refresh film based material (24fps) at 72 Hz and video based material (30fps) at 60Hz. Interestingly, I can't find anything in the Fujitsu literature that indicates the refresh rate. Some displays claim they accept 24p/30p, but they display at 60Hz, which is useless. I'm convinced Fujitsu would not do that.
Refresh rates of 120Hz of LCD TVs (http://www.dvd-recordable.org/Article3178.phtml)
Although the current broadcasting signals are only transmitted at a maximum frame rate of 60Hz, many 120Hz LCD TVs were still introduced by major manufacturers during CES 2007 and the TVs are scheduled to be mass produced in 2007.
Sharp's flagship Aquos 92 series not only produces 120Hz images, it is also equipped with five wavelength backlights. Sony's 70-inch KDL-70XBR3 utilizes the Motionflow 120Hz technology with 10-bit panel and Triluminos LED backlight components. Philip's 42-inch Full Surround Ambilight also employs the 120Hz technology. LGE's LY3D and LB4D series, which includes 47-, 52- and 57- inch 1080p LCD TVs, makes use of the TruMotion Drive 120Hz technology. JVC displayed a 120Hz LCD TV during 2005. This year, they presented a 37-inch full HD 120Hz LCD TV with an LED backlight structure.
Other models included Toshiba's Cinema Series Regza 1080p 42-, 46-, 52- and 57-inch models. Samsung's new 70-inch LCD TV and Hitachi's 32- and 37-inch LCD TVs added the 120Hz function as well.
As the American ATSC and European DVB-T digital broadcast standards are not transmitted in the 120Hz format, it is expected that the 120Hz refresh rate will be primarily seen in flagship models.
Sony's new 70" LCD with Motionflow 120Hz technology is 10-bit panel for only $33,000 (new 70-inch Bravia television, the KDL-70XBR3)
To help film fans who are shopping around for displays, would it make sense to start a "master/comprehensive list" thread of true 1080p/24fps displays and continuously update it as models are released that are positively tested and confirmed to display 24 fps sources at 24 or a multiple of 24 with NO smoothing/interpolation? (-meaning, for example, if the rate is 120 hz, that the display is capable of actually displaying each original source frame 5 times, and does not necessarily create hybrid frames between two source frames.)
Or does that type of list already exist here or elsewhere?
Jeff_DML
09-19-07, 11:49 AM
sounds good to me, I havent seen a thread like that.
seems to be projectors and pioneer plasmas