http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=7846169&publicUserId=5519593

Ah rumors!

...I'll take any new demo. I haven't touched my PS3 for a while.

Hate to tell you this Dralt, but theres already a thread on it. I dont see why would they even take the Halo3 Beta that serious. Afterall, its just a beta.

Its bad enough people are planning on buying a game just to play the Beta.. I cant imagine someone buying a whole 360 just to play the Beta. Talk about a serious fanatic.

I would have to say its pretty 'effin amazing a game like Killzone we've seen or heard nothing about besides a CGI movie 2 years ago.. is all of sudden ready for a demo release in the next month.

I guess if you gotta start a rumour.. you might as well start a big one.

Forget competing with the Halo 3 beta, they need to compete with Halo 3.

Thats actually impossible at this point though. Halo 3 is so anticipated that only Halo 3 can hurt Halo 3 at this point.

They need to focus on making Killzone as good as it can be and pray to whatever gods they can for Hao to be screwed up.

Killzone 2 ftw!

the only 2 games in the PS3 that can defeat HALO 3 or have ANY chance (these are all slim chances)

are probably FFXIII and God of War 3 =P (plz God of War 3)

the only 2 games in the PS3 that can defeat HALO 3 or have ANY chance (these are all slim chances)

are probably FFXIII and God of War 3 =P (plz God of War 3)

Not really a fair comparison. Halo 3's main aspect is its online features. According to Bungie, the multiplayer is "years ahead of anything else." As far as I know, the games you listed are single player.

Also, FFXIII was announced to be only 3% complete a few months ago. It probably won't hit the US until late 2008/early 2009. Like FrankJ.Cone said, only Halo 3 can hurt Halo 3.

A playable Killzone demo in the next 2 or 3 months is about as likely as it looking like their bs video 2 years ago. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, no way hombre.

A playable Killzone demo in the next 2 or 3 months is about as likely as it looking like their bs video 2 years ago. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, no way hombre.

This wreaks of fanboy.

Whats a Halo? :confused:

This wreaks of fanboy.

No offense, but rdank is right. The only proof that this game even exists is a CG movie shown at E3 2005. The demo may or may not come out soon, we will have to wait and see. It does seem highly unlikely.


Whats a Halo? :confused:

A game that sells consoles. :D

This wreaks of fanboy.

It's not. Just realistic ideas. I don't even play Halo so it's not like I think it's god's gift to games by any means. Why would I open this thread then? To see what folks think is coming down the pipe for the PS3 because I'm interested in all the systems.

Not really a fair comparison. Halo 3's main aspect is its online features. According to Bungie, the multiplayer is "years ahead of anything else." As far as I know, the games you listed are single player.

Also, FFXIII was announced to be only 3% complete a few months ago. It probably won't hit the US until late 2008/early 2009. Like FrankJ.Cone said, only Halo 3 can hurt Halo 3.

quite a few people buy halo not just for multiplayer. Just because Halo 2 is the most heavily played online xbox game doesn't mean people are buying it just for the multiplayer

(sorry PC FPS bias, i just hate playing console FPS online.... also cause i suck =) )

quite a few people buy halo not just for multiplayer. Just because Halo 2 is the most heavily played online xbox game doesn't mean people are buying it just for the multiplayer

(sorry PC FPS bias, i just hate playing console FPS online.... also cause i suck =) )


I understand that, however, online multiplayer really extends a game's lifespan which results in more sells. I never buy RPGs, I just rent them. I know this is not the case for a lot of people but I simply can't play an RPG multiple times.

Hate to tell you this Dralt, but theres already a thread on it. I dont see why would they even take the Halo3 Beta that serious. Afterall, its just a beta.

Its bad enough people are planning on buying a game just to play the Beta.. I cant imagine someone buying a whole 360 just to play the Beta. Talk about a serious fanatic.

I would have to say its pretty 'effin amazing a game like Killzone we've seen or heard nothing about besides a CGI movie 2 years ago.. is all of sudden ready for a demo release in the next month.

I guess if you gotta start a rumour.. you might as well start a big one.

After 2 years, it's either 75% developed or 99% abandoned.

I thought they had abandoned it.

Already posted:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=801217


:(

Forget competing with the Halo 3 beta, they need to compete with Halo 3.

Thats actually impossible at this point though. Halo 3 is so anticipated that only Halo 3 can hurt Halo 3 at this point.

They need to focus on making Killzone as good as it can be and pray to whatever gods they can for Hao to be screwed up.

Is it really a zero-sum game?

A playable Killzone demo in the next 2 or 3 months is about as likely as it looking like their bs video 2 years ago. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, no way hombre.

I don't know how you can be so sure.

Already posted:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=801217


:(

Sorry, missed it.

That's alright. Your thread is starting to turn for the worst. :D

I used to play multiplayer Halo 2, then i realized I was sick of unreliable quitting team-killing team-mates who couldn't say 2 sentences without resorting to ghetto cuss speak. The single player was okay. Unless Bungie makes some serious strides in how they treat the idiots that use their online service, then I won't be playing it. Sony could counter by just being Sony. If they release as many good games as the PS2 had, then I donn't think I'll have a problem. As far as I'm concerned Resistance Fall of Man's ability to have people leave a game and not have everybody wait 10 seconds (like most FPS do anyways) is already beating out Halo 2's awful crap. I just KNOW they'll do matchmaking again AND badly.

quite a few people buy halo not just for multiplayer. Just because Halo 2 is the most heavily played online xbox game doesn't mean people are buying it just for the multiplayer

(sorry PC FPS bias, i just hate playing console FPS online.... also cause i suck =) )

Clearly, I couldn't care less about multiplayer. Now, I do realize that in the US, mulitplayer is very important.
Developers like it too because it's less asset intensive and you don't need to come up with any story.

I don't think Sony can afford to go multiplayer all the way because their core Japanese market values single-player much more.

I don't know how you can be so sure.

I can't. Just throwing out my opinion. But, going from what I've seen in the last 20 years of console gaming, I'm skeptical given a number of reasons (no screenshots, movies, demos for press, additional gameplay/story information, etc.).

Reminds me of when the demo for Killzone came out it was already being touted as the Halo Killer.

Though, this game does seem like eye candy, I'm waiting to hear the final verdict.

Killzones single player mode was pretty awesome. the online was absolute garbage but I still played it.

I dont know why everyone hates on resistance. I love it, there are some major improvements that I'd like to see, but IMO its more fun than gears and vegas on the 360. 4vs4 1 death per round matches really dont reak of fun to me.

FWIW, which may be nothing, PSM has the release date for KZ2 as July. The only way KZ2 can compete with the hype of Halo 3 is if they release it first AND polished. We'll see....

As far as RFOM online, Insominiac got it right when designing levels with up to 40 people playing online at once. To quote unreal tournament, its a "KILLING SPREE"!:)

Also the multiplayer "Conversion" games in RFOM is a nice twist that goes well with the story line.

I don't think Sony can afford to go multiplayer all the way because their core Japanese market values single-player much more.

Their core market seems to only be a little past halfway to a million units sold. The big N seems to be reclaiming Japan. I could be wrong. Killzone 2 will be one of the most scrutinized games ever whenever it does hit.

A playable Killzone demo in the next 2 or 3 months is about as likely as it looking like their bs video 2 years ago. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, no way hombre.

why is it so unlikely? KZ2 has been in development for 2 yrs now and supposedly has a $40M budget.

Remember Half Life 2? It was in development for quite sometime before anyone knew about it when it debuted at E3, then that weird code leak happened and then no one really saw it again until a year later when it launched. Turned out to be a pretty good game in the end.

The Japanese do not embrace FPS. For whatever real reason they just do not (There are endless theories...). I cannot imagine Killzone is aimed at the Japanese market but instead at everyone beyond Japan and to them... multiplayer is important.

Clearly, I couldn't care less about multiplayer.

Egad! Oh well, to each their own :)




If Gears of War didn't convince someone to buy a 360, Halo 3 probably isn't going to either. In that sense, the PS3 doesn't need to do anything to compete with Halo3. The 360's system seller for the shooter genre has already dropped, and whatever is supposed to have happen has already happened. There's not a lot to be done about it one way or another now.

But also, I wonder if Halo3's popularity will be hurt by the deluge of shooters that already exist for the 360. There's only so much "Buzz" to go around, and the other shooters having taken some of the oxygen out of the room that Halo3 would have used. In the end, I'm not sure the PS3 needs to do anything to counteract Halo3.

There's also the systems it will sell due to it being released. Lots of folks are holding off waiting for a price drop or Halo 3 to convince themselves it's worth all the money. A giant sales spike? No, but certainly a growth around then.

Same holds true for a few PS3 games as well. No difference really.

Halo 3? Its an online FPS right, it's old news. I played Halo 2 after all the hype and asked myself, is this it? There's got to be more than just this. I've already done all this. No matter how well developed a game is, after awhile it's the same old thing. Give me something new and fresh. I'd rather play GoW than a Halo game. At least then there is the duck and cover routine. I would just have to mute my TV so I dont have to hear all those rediculous punchlines "oh yeah!" :rolleyes:

Egad! Oh well, to each their own :)




If Gears of War didn't convince someone to buy a 360, Halo 3 probably isn't going to either. In that sense, the PS3 doesn't need to do anything to compete with Halo3. The 360's system seller for the shooter genre has already dropped, and whatever is supposed to have happen has already happened. There's not a lot to be done about it one way or another now.

But also, I wonder if Halo3's popularity will be hurt by the deluge of shooters that already exist for the 360. There's only so much "Buzz" to go around, and the other shooters having taken some of the oxygen out of the room that Halo3 would have used. In the end, I'm not sure the PS3 needs to do anything to counteract Halo3.

oddly enough i've yet to go online with Gears of War.

If halo was like Gears of War i'd be all over that shiznaz.

Egad! Oh well, to each their own :)




If Gears of War didn't convince someone to buy a 360, Halo 3 probably isn't going to either. In that sense, the PS3 doesn't need to do anything to compete with Halo3. The 360's system seller for the shooter genre has already dropped, and whatever is supposed to have happen has already happened. There's not a lot to be done about it one way or another now.

But also, I wonder if Halo3's popularity will be hurt by the deluge of shooters that already exist for the 360. There's only so much "Buzz" to go around, and the other shooters having taken some of the oxygen out of the room that Halo3 would have used. In the end, I'm not sure the PS3 needs to do anything to counteract Halo3.

What can I say? I played so many of them since Quake...so many...it's always the same...spawn, run, kill/get killed, rinse, repeat. Yes, there are modes based on objectives, but it's barely different.
If to that you add a) bad player matching, b) occasional lag, c) cheaters, d) griefers, e) spawn killers, etc. I get bored after 2 sessions...
Last 2 times I tried really hard was GRAW and Resistance...I gave up quickly as the repetitive nature of the gameplay bored me to death...while playing GRAW, my last few games were in a zombie state--I was so detached from the experience...

Egad! Oh well, to each their own :)




If Gears of War didn't convince someone to buy a 360, Halo 3 probably isn't going to either. In that sense, the PS3 doesn't need to do anything to compete with Halo3. The 360's system seller for the shooter genre has already dropped, and whatever is supposed to have happen has already happened. There's not a lot to be done about it one way or another now.

But also, I wonder if Halo3's popularity will be hurt by the deluge of shooters that already exist for the 360. There's only so much "Buzz" to go around, and the other shooters having taken some of the oxygen out of the room that Halo3 would have used. In the end, I'm not sure the PS3 needs to do anything to counteract Halo3.


There was a lot of shooters before Halo and after and before Halo 2 and we saw the reaction that caused all over the country when it was getting released. What shooter causes that reaction where CNN and Fox News are in the lines for the release of Halo 2? I see the same thing happening if everything is done correctly for Halo 3, and there have been plenty of shooters since also. Halo 3 will be a system seller. It is no different then someone like myself who is still waiting on the games for the PS3 for me to decide to pick one up.

Bah. **** Halo. Until quitters are punished with an hour log-out compulsory, then I don't wanna play. Don't like the map? Cry on your wife's shoulder about it.

I am so sick of Sony and the lies. They better have something good or I will stop buying their products no matter how good they are.

Halo 3 is so anticipated that only Halo 3 can hurt Halo 3 at this point.

Frankly, Halo 2 already hurt Halo 3 to me. What a let down that game was. I'm not going to lose any sleep by not owning an xbox anymore and not being able to play Halo 3.

I skipped the PS2 generation so there are a lot of franchises that I never played so the next installment will be fresh to me. Sony just has to deliver.

You don't go from CG video in 2005 to playable demo with nothing inbetween. If the game is that far along then Sony are a pack of raving mad idiots.

Why wouldn't they release pics, vids, previews?

Maybe they have a new PR philosophy: After a console launch with a thin lineup of games and amid growing restlessness about, "when are the good games coming?", keep one of your most anticpated games under complete wraps.

Then just pop it on the world with almost no fanfare. :rolleyes:

If they had anything worth showing they would. Just my opinion. I would say Killzone is 2008/9 game. Reality check. MSG4 will probably be pushed back to 2008 as well.

We all know how slowly a game unfolds to the public. A game is usually released 6 months after the gaming press gets ahold of a preview build to play. Do you think teh gaming press will be playing and commenting on either of these games by June?

KZ is the halo killar (sony saids so)

I'm posting this here and in my thread, because I don't want anyone missing this:

This info came straight from the developers themselves over at the KZ forum:

- KZ2's producer said the game had graphics of the same calibur as the trailer in late 05 or early 06 on their forum.
-half of the 120 or so devs were working on KZ2 since early 06
-they've had the game running on a 40" Sony HDTV since early 06
-the whole team is working on the game now
-they already have enough data and what not thats larger than a DVD9, lead tester said this in like mid 06
-only a hand full of ppl have seen the game, Phil is apparently one of them.
-AI team has doubled in members
-They held back on showing the game at E3 b/c it would take shine away from the launch games

It begins!

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=157062


Killzone 2 set to rock GDC
Wednesday 7-Feb-2007 10:08 AM Sony will unveil the flagship PS3 shooter next month, plus masses of other new games CVG has learned

The highly-anticipated PlayStation 3 sequel to Guerilla Game's Killzone is to be officially unveiled at next month's GDC, CVG has learned.

Well placed US sources have revealed to us that the flagship Sony shooter will be shown in full glory at the San Francisco event, perhaps even in the form of a playable demo.



Less than a month until GDC starts! I CAN'T WAIT!

Am I the only one that considered Halo 2 a huge disappointment from the original Halo?? And to be honest, I consider Gears to be worlds better than the Halo franchise. I loved Resistance and actually thought its single player was much more developed than Gears, but the third-person aspect with cover is what REALLY has accounted for my complete addiction to Gears.

Frankly, Halo 2 already hurt Halo 3 to me. What a let down that game was. I'm not going to lose any sleep by not owning an xbox anymore and not being able to play Halo 3.

I skipped the PS2 generation so there are a lot of franchises that I never played so the next installment will be fresh to me. Sony just has to deliver.

I always saw Halo 2 as a glorified expansion pack.

Anyone remember Bungie before the sell-out (buy-out is more fair)?

When we thought Halo looked cool and would be originally launched simultaneously on Mac and PC?

I always saw Halo 2 as a glorified expansion pack.

Anyone remember Bungie before the sell-out (buy-out is more fair)?

When we thought Halo looked cool and would be originally launched simultaneously on Mac and PC?

I remember hearing about Halo coming out on PC back in 1999 or 2000. I was excited about it. Then, nothing...until, what, 2003? And only for Xbox. Bleh. My sisters and their boyfriends were into Halo, but I could only stand playing it for about a half hour before deciding the game was crap. And that was before I heard there was not mouse/keyboard support.

Am I the only one that considered Halo 2 a huge disappointment from the original Halo?? And to be honest, I consider Gears to be worlds better than the Halo franchise. I loved Resistance and actually thought its single player was much more developed than Gears, but the third-person aspect with cover is what REALLY has accounted for my complete addiction to Gears.

i like the fact that i basically have the same amount of life as the enemies!

Am I the only one that considered Halo 2 a huge disappointment from the original Halo??

nope.. Give me Halo:CE with Live and 720p at 60fps I'll be happy to pay $59.99. I'll be happier if they add some more maps or even an editor that people can share maps online. Just keep Halo:CE's gameplay.

Of course they can scratch the entire campaign and give us something new that isn't cut and paste as well as a bonus. ;)

I'm posting this here and in my thread, because I don't want anyone missing this:

This info came straight from the developers themselves over at the KZ forum:

- KZ2's producer said the game had graphics of the same calibur as the trailer in late 05 or early 06 on their forum.
-half of the 120 or so devs were working on KZ2 since early 06
-they've had the game running on a 40" Sony HDTV since early 06
-the whole team is working on the game now
-they already have enough data and what not thats larger than a DVD9, lead tester said this in like mid 06
-only a hand full of ppl have seen the game, Phil is apparently one of them.
-AI team has doubled in members
-They held back on showing the game at E3 b/c it would take shine away from the launch games


Shine away from the launch games?? WTF?? What launch games were there that were good? I have purchased one game since I got this thing at launch! They need to show something or else this thing will stop working cause it gets no play time!

I read on ign.com that killzone 2 won't be shown at the show. Came from Sony officials so lets end the gossip. I doubt it ever comes out anyway unless it's really a cgi movie lmao!

I read on ign.com that killzone 2 won't be shown at the show. Came from Sony officials so lets end the gossip. I doubt it ever comes out anyway unless it's really a cgi movie lmao!

Unfortunately them denying it still isn't definitive. Nintendo once told the press they had no plans to redesign the DS, and then 2 weeks later they announced the DS Lite.

I picked up Killzone for kicks and I must say it's one generation away from Halo or Halo 2. I mean it doesn't even come close. The graphics are inferior, the AI is inferior, the controls are inferior, the story is your standard "Red Faction" cliche, etc.

I hope the PS3 Killzone fills the gap, because Killzone was quite a dud in comparison to its ambitious agenda.

If Gears of War didn't convince someone to buy a 360, Halo 3 probably isn't going to either.

I know a number of people who bought a 360 for Gears of War. I'm sure some will by it for Halo 3.

Unfortunately them denying it still isn't definitive. Nintendo once told the press they had no plans to redesign the DS, and then 2 weeks later they announced the DS Lite.

That is different. If Nintendo announced a new DS, sales would have plummeted. Announcing new hardware in advance can be risky.