I have seen both...to my eye they looked pretty similar. Wanted to decide between the Sammy HLS5688W 56-inch 1080p DLP and the JVC 56FC/FN. I have been trying to go thru the 300pages in the Sammy thread and close to 200 in the JVC thread....it is a little overwhelming...So here it is: other than the price is there any reason why I should pick one over the other?....thanks for any replies...

PS: its for the family room......

Make sure you and your family don't see RBE (rainbow effect) on DLP before you buy.

First, all current generation DLP models uses newer color-wheels to eliminate the "rainbow"problem. The new LED based DLP units eliminate the raibow problem altogether.

LCoS, which is what JVC's D-ILA and Sony's SXRD are based on, are LCD based units, and the DLP based models are not. LCoS is the acronym for Liquid Crystal on Silicon, so they are LCD based and have all the probelems inherent in LCD technology. THe DLP unis are superior in performance, refresh, and color depth. The only stat that LCos can claim over DLP is a slightly better black level, but only on the larger models.

Best advice: Go with the DLP. You'll save money, have a better picture, and you won't be buying an LCD based unit maquerading as something else.

My advice would be to look at both TVs side by side with the same source and see what looks best to you. I recently moved from a 42" Samsung HLN to a 61". When I started looking I really wanted to give LCOS a chance and I was lucky the local Magnolia has the Sony SXRD, Samsung, JVC and Mits right next to each other. They only had the 6187 which has a few less features than the JVC so I was leaning toward the JVC. But for me I just found I that I could see SSE more pronounced on the other sets and the Samsung's colors just stood out. My wife had the same opinion. So I went with the Samsung and I am very happy with it. In the end though all of these TVs are pretty close and it is very subjective as to which picture you will like best, only your eyes will tell you not another forum member.

Also if you do read the threads you will find all of these TVs have some faults. These faults for some people are completely unacceptable and for others not an issue. The thing to note is that there is no perfect technology so like the picture make sure you can live with the faults.

My advice would be to look at both TVs side by side with the same source and see what looks best to you. I recently moved from a 42" Samsung HLN to a 61". When I started looking I really wanted to give LCOS a chance and I was lucky the local Magnolia has the Sony SXRD, Samsung, JVC and Mits right next to each other. They only had the 6187 which has a few less features than the JVC so I was leaning toward the JVC. But for me I just found I that I could see SSE more pronounced on the other sets and the Samsung's colors just stood out. My wife had the same opinion. So I went with the Samsung and I am very happy with it. In the end though all of these TVs are pretty close and it is very subjective as to which picture you will like best, only your eyes will tell you not another forum member.

Also if you do read the threads you will find all of these TVs have some faults. These faults for some people are completely unacceptable and for others not an issue. The thing to note is that there is no perfect technology so like the picture make sure you can live with the faults.

The issues with samsung (pincushioning and the shadow) is scaring me away from them. I did compare them and I did like the the PQ that samsung put out better than the JVC or the SXRD

First, all current generation DLP models uses newer color-wheels to eliminate the "rainbow"problem. The new LED based DLP units eliminate the raibow problem altogether.


First off, I've owned both sets (the Sammy 6187W and now the JVC 61Fn97. The user I've quoted is waaaay off base. I had the Sammy for 2 weeks and was driven mad by the RBE. I got headaches, nauseau. It was terrible. The picture; however, was so sweet that I didn't want to return it. Eventually, I succumbed to the fact that I can't handle DLP. There are also reports that the new LED DLP's also can produce RBE in those who are very sensitive. Get your facts straight.

If you are not susceptible to RBE, it is my opinion that the Sammy or the Mitsubishis are the best DLPs out there. (Mits also displays RBE) If you -- like me -- ARE susceptible to RBE, I think the JVC smokes the Sony and for a lot cheaper too.

And like a previous poster stated, all TV's have inherent drawbacks based on their core technology. The JVC HD-ILA displays no screen door, no rainbow and has a controllable iris. The Sammy does not. However, the Sammy has less SSE and more vibrant colors.

Here's a hint -- look at a person's total post count (NoNoBadDog for example) before you consider their level of contribution/expertise on this site.

I myself was thinking of the SAM HL-S5086w until I saw the whol thread about the light tunnels colapsing and producing a shadow on the screen. Granted, Samsung sells crap loads of their DLP tv's so it may not be a large representation of the one's out there with no problems. I then saw the JVC HD52G787 for cheaper than the samsung with a stand at Best Buy so I started looking into that TV. From what I read on the owners thread on this forum, nobody had any huge complaints or any re-ocurring problems. But again all tv's in this technology have their drawbacks and problems. But I've seen the JVC picture next to the samsung, to be honest I didn't see big enough of a difference between the two to ever know the difference once I got the TV home.

That is just the path I have taken, hope my input helps you decide what you want to do. Both are nice looking tv's with similar features.

The light tunnel problem and other issues reported by owners on this forum eliminated the Samsungs from my consideration too. Also, while I haven't noticed rainbows on DLPs, I don't know if family members or guests would see them. I'll probably go with the JVC 56FC97 from Costco myself.

I myself was thinking of the SAM HL-S5086w until I saw the whol thread about the light tunnels colapsing and producing a shadow on the screen. Granted, Samsung sells crap loads of their DLP tv's so it may not be a large representation of the one's out there with no problems. I then saw the JVC HD52G787 for cheaper than the samsung with a stand at Best Buy so I started looking into that TV. From what I read on the owners thread on this forum, nobody had any huge complaints or any re-ocurring problems. But again all tv's in this technology have their drawbacks and problems. But I've seen the JVC picture next to the samsung, to be honest I didn't see big enough of a difference between the two to ever know the difference once I got the TV home.

That is just the path I have taken, hope my input helps you decide what you want to do. Both are nice looking tv's with similar features.

I initially ordered the 5688W from an online vendor..after reading all the issues with the TVs cancelled the order and decided to go with the SXRDs.....

The issues with samsung (pincushioning and the shadow) is scaring me away from them. I did compare them and I did like the the PQ that samsung put out better than the JVC or the SXRD

I have a small amount of pincushion <0.25" on one side of my HLS. Pincushion can exist on any RP set. This does bother some people but I never really notice it unless I am looking at 4:3 material right at the side bar. Never see bent lines on 16:9 material. As for the light tunnel problem this was on early 2006 sets and Samsung is replacing light engines under warrantee without hassle. The new LE that the sets now have seems to have resolved this problem (a mirror coming loose in the tunnel).

In the end all sets have some flaws, my decision was made on picture quality alone which to my eyes was superior on the Samsung. I never have seen a rainbow on these sets and have been using them since 2002 so this is a non issue for me as well. If the pciture quality was as good on the JVC I may have went that direction but it wasn't. I think the picture quality on Plasma is the best from my opinion but who can afford a 61" 1080p Plasma, not I.

Satisfied JVC (61FN97) owner here. The other 2 finalists in my search to replace my Hitachi RPTV were the Samsung 87 series DLP and the Sony SXRD. The Samsungs were impressively bright with vivid colors, but the more I looked it at the more I found it to have a somewhat cartoonish character, I'd call it hyper-reality. I was also concerned about the possibility of seeing RBE down the road and potential color wheel issues. The Sony looked great, with an impressively natural picture-it was the lead candidate for a while, then I looked at it side by side with the JVC with both sets tweaked to deliver the best possible (for the sales floor, anyway) picture. The JVC had a picture just as impressively natural as the Sony, but was subjectively sharper and more detailed. Reading about the extent of the infamous "green blob" problem made the final decision an easy one. Best feature of the JVC is the dynamic iris, without a doubt-this really allows you achieve CRT-like black levels.

There were a few adjustments to be made once I unpacked the set-the convergence was slightly off and the picture was shifted slightly up and to the left, both problems were easily fixed in the service menu.

There are lots of happy owners of both sets-view both as much as you can and use your own viewing preferences as the ultimate guide. A gamer might prefer the more vivid look of the Samsung, for example.

I read the review at cnet, and it was pretty negative.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Samsung_HL_S5679W/4505-6484_7-31641984.html?tag=pdtl-list

An expensive TV with bad black levels? Yikes. If this is wrong, I would love to know. Do the newer Samsungs from this year fix the contrast and picture problems?

I want a TV with instant-on and hopefully no fan noise. Does the Samsung have an audible fan?

I read the review at cnet, and it was pretty negative.

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An expensive TV with bad black levels? Yikes. If this is wrong, I would love to know. Do the newer Samsungs from this year fix the contrast and picture problems?

I want a TV with instant-on and hopefully no fan noise. Does the Samsung have an audible fan?

Careful...compare apples to apples here. The CNet review was for the LED powered Samsung, not the lamp powered ones...a world of difference between the two. I've seen them side by side - the LED TV is a good first effort, but the XX87 blew it away picture quality - wise...

Being a owner of Samsung DLP 67" 1080p and JVC Pro 70" 1080p...I picked the JVC for overall slightly better PQ. I was lucky I could do a side by side comparison. BUT I would be happy with either one.

Careful...compare apples to apples here. The CNet review was for the LED powered Samsung, not the lamp powered ones...a world of difference between the two. I've seen them side by side - the LED TV is a good first effort, but the XX87 blew it away picture quality - wise...

pity---it is the LED tech that I am really hoping for. presumably instant-on, no fan noise (less heat), no rotating wheel, and better colors. let's hope that the next LED backlit versions will perform better. is there any good LED backlit RPTV today?

PS: if someone has the JVC, if you turn down the volume, can you hear the fan? on my Sony LCD RPTV (60") from 2.5 years ago, it is *very* notable. it won't matter if someone likes to listen with high volume, but I often need to listen at very low levels (and headphones are *not* an option).

regards,

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