PoseidonXXL
02-10-07, 11:23 AM
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View Full Version : Did you spend more time choosing your PJ than you did on your last automobile? PoseidonXXL 02-10-07, 11:23 AM Why? bqmeister 02-10-07, 11:26 AM I spend more time watching TV than I do driving. dmclone 02-10-07, 11:35 AM Yes, because I know a lot about cars so it really comes down to 1 or 2 choices for me. With A/V I'm lost and I learn something new everyday. underwhelm 02-10-07, 11:40 AM Cars come with a longer warranty... bass addict 02-10-07, 11:41 AM I spend more time watching TV than I do driving. :D Amen to that. It's funny I am currently in this position. When I purchased my 900 it was a pretty easy decision seeing as I was sold on an LCD pj. This time around there are a lot of strong competitors and I am having a real tough time deciding on what I want. Jones_Rush 02-10-07, 11:42 AM Why? Because after I finally buy it, my searches for a new projector only increases, because I can still ebay my new pj at a good price. The search is eternal. I believe that someday, maybe when I will have a pj with a quality of the JVC RS1, I will finally stop searching for an upgrade, and settle down. muzz 02-10-07, 11:47 AM Because after I finally buy it, my searches for a new projector only increases, because I can still ebay my new pj at a good price. The search is eternal. I believe that someday, maybe when I will have a pj with a quality of the JVC RS1, I will finally stop searching for an upgrade, and settle down. NO WAY!! There will ALWAYS be something new and better around the corner!! You, me, and everyone else here knows that!! We always do that don't we(try and convince ourselves)? heheh mnn1265 02-10-07, 11:50 AM I did, or I should say I am, but then again what is there really to debate about when you're buying a 745LI? :p Part of the time spent to decide is due to the fact that I can't test drive a projector like I can the car and yes I do spend much more time in front of my projector than in my car. It has a lot less to do with cost to me than it does with making the right choice at the right price. I think you make a good point though, we probably do obsess about these things far too much. :eek: Jones_Rush 02-10-07, 12:24 PM I did, or I should say I am, but then again what is there really to debate about when you're buying a 745LI? You can say the same about projectors: what is there really to debate about when you're buying a JVC RS1 ?. Actaully, I think you can say it more about the RS1 than about the 745LI... mnn1265 02-10-07, 12:34 PM You can say the same about projectors: what is there really to debate about when you're buying a JVC RS1 ?. Actaully, I think you can say it more about the RS1 than about the 745LI... Oh no.... I don't think they are going to improve automobile performance or design drastically in the next 2 years. However, you can bet the farm 1080p front projection TV technology WILL improve drastically in the next 2 years so it will cost you half as much for twice the performance. Besides, if driving a Toyota was indistinguishable from driving a 745LI I'd go for the toyota - but then of course that's not the case! Jones_Rush 02-10-07, 12:40 PM Oh no.... I don't think they are going to improve automobile performance or design drastically in the next 2 years. However, you can bet the farm 1080p front projection TV technology WILL improve drastically in the next 2 years so it will cost you half as much for twice the performance. I agree about the price of the RS1 dropping to half in the next two years, but I don't think the industry will improve the performance 2X in that time frame. Just for example, the RS1 boasts a 15,000:1 native contrast ratio after D65 calibration, without an iris (this was validated by a 3rd party), while current best LCD has about 1500:1 and the best DLP has about 3000:1. I don't see the rest of the industry giving us a projector with 30,000:1, two years from now (no matter the price). If they could catch up in two years, this alone will be mind boggling. mnn1265 02-10-07, 12:58 PM Well I hope your right about the RS1 and perhaps you are. However, to my knowledge it hasn't even been shipped yet and hasn't seen any real world use. We don't yet know what flaws will be revealed by use or not. Assuming the projector is all that and then some I don't think your contrast number doubling would be a fair way to assess improvement (not that I'm suggesting you are asserting that). The performance of a projector is a culmination of all of the technology taken as a whole and not simply a reflection of some specific technical measurement or capability. If the RS1 is really that revolutionary you can almost expect the RS2 to be substantially improved and at half the price... that's the way new electronic technology almost always works. It’s a difficult but proven axiom that it’s always better to jump on a new technology AFTER the initial year it’s released… that’s the sweet spot. The truth is the hoopla surrounding the RS1 does sound very exciting and if it were available today I probably would strongly consider giving it a whirl. However, my current projector **** the bed and I have to buy one now. Other than the promise of the RS1 I don't see a valid reason to indulge on a 1080p projector today. I do hope like hell that the RS1 is all that it's cracked up to be because that means next year I can pick up something similar and I'd love a real revolutionary advance in the state of the technology. I’ll be keeping my eye on the boards and my hopes are with you! CMRA 02-10-07, 01:05 PM Well I hope your right about the RS1 and perhaps you are. However, to my knowledge it hasn't even been shipped yet and hasn't seen any real world use. We don't yet know what flaws will be revealed by use or not. Assuming the projector is all that and then some I don't think your contrast number doubling would be a fair way to assess improvement (not that I'm suggesting you are asserting that). The performance of a projector is a culmination of all of the technology taken as a whole and not simply a reflection of some specific technical measurement or capability. If the RS1 is really that revolutionary you can almost expect the RS2 to be substantially improved and at half the price... that's the way new electronic technology almost always works. It’s a difficult but proven axiom that it’s always better to jump on a new technology AFTER the initial year it’s released… that’s the sweet spot. The truth is the hoopla surrounding the RS1 does sound very exciting and if it were available today I probably would strongly consider giving it a whirl. However, my current projector **** the bed and I have to buy one now. Other than the promise of the RS1 I don't see a valid reason to indulge on a 1080p projector today. I do hope like hell that the RS1 is all that it's cracked up to be because that means next year I can pick up something similar and I'd love a real revolutionary advance in the state of the technology. I’ll be keeping my eye on the boards and my hopes are with you! Where have you been hiding? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=800948 mnn1265 02-10-07, 01:20 PM Where have you been hiding? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=800948 Ok, ok, I know a few people have one but most haven't even been notified when they'll be getting thier pre-orders. Again that's just what I've read since I'm obviously not on list. Clearly it's just in the process of rollout. Hi Ho 02-10-07, 04:28 PM I'm still driving my 1990 Civic which was my first car. I've been pondering a front projection setup for several years. I recently had the urge to get a new car and I instantly fell in love with the Mazda 3. That was a one or two day search. Just the other day, I finally decided on the Mitsubishi HD1000. So, three years for the projector, 2 days for the car. Guess which one is coming first. :D FremontRich 02-10-07, 04:36 PM Why? Sure did!! Ten months of research led me from the Benq PE7700 to the Samsung 710E only to be foiled by the problems those two projectors incurred. I finally settled on the Mitsubishi HC3000 recommended by Jason of AVS. Great projector, by the way. fs123 02-10-07, 04:47 PM When I go to buy a car there are dozens of magazines that have hands on reviews of pretty much every model not to mention simply walking into a dealer to test drive which makes buying super easy. With pj's there are at most a handful of places to find "professional" reviews so you basically have to rely on Joe Blows opinion on the forum ( I mean that in the nicest way) and finding a store that will let you test a projector is few and far between. epsilon9090 02-10-07, 05:42 PM Not to mention that a lot of us work in the automotive industry, and we know our company's next best thing plus we use our company discounts to buy our cars. However, if you work outside of the industry, then there are a lot of sources you can use, and like the poster above mentioned, test drives work wonders. In addition, friends and family and pretty much everyone we know drives a car and knows a thing or two. Front projectors are a totally different story. I only know one guy with a front projector. We like to revel in this fact. :) Speqtre 02-10-07, 05:46 PM I buy cars way more often than I buy AV equipment - which seems to just hang around after being replaced by something better. I've probably averaged about 2 cars every 3 years for the past 15 years - I just get bored I guess... don't make me list em... it's too painful. CMRA 02-11-07, 01:15 AM "Did you spend more time choosing your PJ than you did on your last automobile?" Is the Pope a Catholic? Is a stop sign Red? Is there sand in a desert or water in an ocean? Why? Because it's a PASSION not a decision, that's why. I don't upgade my car every year either. kelliot 02-11-07, 01:22 AM Yes bqmeister 02-11-07, 10:38 AM My daily driver is over 15 years old. But as I said, I spend less time driving than I do watching TV. My daily driver has LESS THAN 100,000 MILES! My wife's car is almost 11 years old. That one has approx 150K miles. We're NOT heavy drivers. But we don't miss any of our favorite shows. Ever. |