View Full Version : Please recommend a good Wireless Router for the Xbox 360 wireless network adapter
Pineapple 02-12-07, 12:11 PM Can anyone recommend a good wireless router for the Xbox 360 wireless network adapter. My old US Robotics one is crapping out. Preferably one with good protection (32 or 64 bit encryption) since my damn neighbors probably know how to hack 32 bit encryption and steal my internets!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
edcokpareke 02-12-07, 12:16 PM I know this doesn't answer your question, but try this:
-Return the $99.99 360 wireless adaptor that you just bought.
-Buy a PC wireless network card for $49.99, and install it to your PC.
-Move your modem/router to the place where you keep your Xbox. Plug your Xbox directly via ethernet.
-Connect your PC to your modem via the PC wireless card you bought in step 2.
-Use the $50 you've just saved and buy your wife/girlfriend a nice dinner on wednesday.
Joe Diver 02-12-07, 12:25 PM -Move your modem/router to the place where you keep your Xbox. Plug your Xbox directly via ethernet.
That would be great....but the whole reason I personally have the 360 wireless is because my Internet connection is nowhere near the 360. It's in the study where my PC is. If I could easily hardwire the 360, I would do just that.
phantom203r 02-12-07, 12:38 PM I have a D-link 784 a and g router, works great with the 360 because it can use 802.11A instead of the G.
fiveprime 02-12-07, 12:46 PM I use a D-Link DI-624 wireless router. It offers good protection. Mine is locked down and I have 1 computer wired to it, 2 computers wireless to it, a Wii wireless to it, and an Xbox 360 wireless to it. It's worked well so far. I've had this router for a couple of years so they should be super cheap by now - if they still make them.
I would do what edcokpareke said if I had to do things over. It's cheaper.
ogbuehi 02-12-07, 12:54 PM Can anyone recommend a good wireless router for the Xbox 360 wireless network adapter. My old US Robotics one is crapping out. Preferably one with good protection (32 or 64 bit encryption) since my damn neighbors probably know how to hack 32 bit encryption and steal my internets!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
Stick with the 360 adapter and get a Netgear wireless router. Will work flawlessly. These ones work flawlessly with mine and I get to use WPA encryption.
http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways.aspx?for=Home+Networking
WilliamR 02-12-07, 01:10 PM Do you guys do much on-line gaming with your wireless routers? A friend on mine always has a red connection when we play Halo and no one else usually does. Its fairly consistent. He has it hooked up via wireless, I was wondering if that was his problem.
jhferry 02-12-07, 01:23 PM I use the Buffalo brand of Router, that will cover you. I also use their Ethernet Bridge with it. Although media center says its poor bandwidth, I can stream HD files no problem.
Joe Diver 02-12-07, 01:36 PM Do you guys do much on-line gaming with your wireless routers? A friend on mine always has a red connection when we play Halo and no one else usually does. Its fairly consistent. He has it hooked up via wireless, I was wondering if that was his problem.
I have no issues.....
fiveprime 02-12-07, 01:52 PM Do you guys do much on-line gaming with your wireless routers? A friend on mine always has a red connection when we play Halo and no one else usually does. Its fairly consistent. He has it hooked up via wireless, I was wondering if that was his problem.
I normally have no problems with online gaming via a wireless connection. I have had problems when something else on my network is downloading something - then gaming gets bad.
formulanerd 02-12-07, 02:28 PM WRT54GS with hacked firmware.
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FiveMillionWays 02-12-07, 02:41 PM Can anyone recommend a good wireless router for the Xbox 360 wireless network adapter. My old US Robotics one is crapping out. Preferably one with good protection (32 or 64 bit encryption) since my damn neighbors probably know how to hack 32 bit encryption and steal my internets!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
Get a wireless gaming router for less then 50 bucks from Fry's. That will solve your problem!
FiveMillionWays 02-12-07, 02:44 PM I have a wireless N network with no problems. I also stream hi def content from my media center pc with no problems. I wouldn't buy a 54 G anything right now since it is a dying tech!
mcarper 02-12-07, 04:14 PM I use Microsoft's MN-700 not a bad little router. Pretty basic and gets the job done. Works great for my Wii and my 360 wireless.
Red Cell 02-12-07, 07:43 PM D-Link Gamer lounge DGL-4300 with game fuel.
virtual-human 02-12-07, 07:54 PM I use a Linksys with wireless a & g, since the MS router supports 802.11a (5GHz) and actually recommends it over 802.11g. Reason being that the controllers (and the wireless mic) are on 2.4GHz, as well as most other network clutter if you have neighbors in close proximity.
I host a lot of Gears and some RB6:Vegas with no issues. I can do a 14-man room in Vegas and everybody will have three green bars except the guys who've got slower connections. (Doesn't hurt that I've got cable internet with 1mbps up...)
rolltide1017 02-12-07, 08:54 PM D-Link Gamer lounge DGL-4300 with game fuel.
I second this one. Great wireless router and I have had zero XBL issues with it.
ogbuehi 02-12-07, 09:08 PM Do you guys do much on-line gaming with your wireless routers? A friend on mine always has a red connection when we play Halo and no one else usually does. Its fairly consistent. He has it hooked up via wireless, I was wondering if that was his problem.
I do lots of gaming. If you get a red bar in Halo it has to do with your ISP usually, not the wireless part in your house.
klaymon 02-12-07, 09:08 PM Linksys WRT54GL. I've had it for 3 years or so and not one issue. It's bullet proof.
formulanerd 02-12-07, 11:28 PM I have a wireless N network with no problems. I also stream hi def content from my media center pc with no problems. I wouldn't buy a 54 G anything right now since it is a dying tech!
G is a dying tech BUT draft N isnt finalized, and your "future proof" draft n router might be useless when the real draft N comes out.
formulanerd 02-12-07, 11:29 PM Linksys WRT54GL. I've had it for 3 years or so and not one issue. It's bullet proof.
you use any GPL'd firmware? DD-WRT?
CupCak3 02-13-07, 12:21 AM 2x Buffalo WHR-G54S. They can be had for around 45 bucks a peice shipped. Setup with DDWRT and will be more stable w/ better signal than any wrt54g or gs I've ever had :)
if you do go linksys, stick w/ the wrt54g. the GS and GL versions will be a waste of money for just xbox usage...
all for less than one BS MS adapter :cool:
tbass2k 02-13-07, 01:09 AM WRT54GS with hacked firmware.
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I have the speedbooster linksys...what does the hacked firmware do and can it benefit my router?
CupCak3 02-13-07, 09:46 AM I have the speedbooster linksys...what does the hacked firmware do and can it benefit my router?
that is not your model... most new linksys routers have speedbooster :P
formulanerd 02-13-07, 01:06 PM I have the speedbooster linksys...what does the hacked firmware do and can it benefit my router?
confirm your model number and version, then check the wiki for features etc.
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php?title=DD-WRT_Docu_(EN)
static dhcp rocks!
Pineapple 02-13-07, 02:29 PM I think im going to get either the Linksys WRT54GL or the WRT54G. Which version should I get for my simple needs?
Im not going to be using bitorrent or anything intensive, just need something simple to use to get internet to x2 laptops wirelessly, and my Xbox 360 wirelessly.
You want a router that handles a and g signals. Use the a signal for your 360 and the g for anything else wireless (laptop, PDA, etc.). I use the Linksys WAP55AG. I have the 360 network adapter and the two work perfectly. I have 4 bars at all times and when my wife is on the laptop the signal isn't affected.
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1115416826028&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
Also, Microsoft recommends it:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/connecttolive/xbox360/homenetworking/equipment.htm
You can buy it here:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=5506785&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat25300050001&id=1051826245067
bryansj 02-13-07, 04:20 PM I just ordered the Buffalo AirStation WHR-HP-AG108 to do the A band for XBox Live and the G band for the laptop. Pretty good price of $50 going through Bestbuy For Business http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbfb/en/US/adirect/bestbuy?cmd=catProductDetail&showAddButton=true&productID=BB10541612&websrc=CNBB10541612
Hope it works out well. It is replacing an aging D-Link DI-624 G router. With the current router I get about 2 bars on the 360, but the past week or so I've had a lot of connection issues. I think that my new neighbors were on the same channel or something so I've had to do a lot of tweaking to even get connected.
chiliDog 02-13-07, 05:29 PM You want a router that handles a and g signals. Use the a signal for your 360 and the g for anything else wireless (laptop, PDA, etc.). I use the Linksys WAP55AG. I have the 360 network adapter and the two work perfectly. I have 4 bars at all times and when my wife is on the laptop the signal isn't affected.
Do you know what the range is for the "A" signal? My 360 is about 40' and 3 walls from my internet connection.
thanks
formulanerd 02-13-07, 05:41 PM i can stream HD to the 360 while downloading at over 1MB/s with my wrt54gs and dd-wrt firmware.
so "A" isnt a necessity.
That would be great....but the whole reason I personally have the 360 wireless is because my Internet connection is nowhere near the 360. It's in the study where my PC is. If I could easily hardwire the 360, I would do just that.
I think you missed the point. To save you a few bucks, edcopareke recommended you move the modem/router to near your 360, hardwire the xbox, then wirelessly link the PC. But, if you can't move the modem/router, it doesn't matter. Personally, I'd prefer to have my main PC hardwired though.
Yukon Trooper 02-13-07, 09:02 PM I'd say go with the Linksys series of routers. These are touted as the best routers in terms of performance and reliability. I have the GL version of the wireless Linksys and it works fantastic. It has all the encryption methods available to date and a killer NAT firewall.
I have my PC downstairs hardwired to it in the same room, brother has laptop in his room using wireless, my gaming PC in my room which is wireless and future 360 in the same room as the router, which I will probably hardwire just because a 50' cable is cheaper.
I have had 0 problems and 0 disconnections while using this router. Also if you decide to get one I suggest the Linux version (thats what the L stands for) like mine because you can flash it with third party firmware which allows you to do things with it that only much more expensive units will allow you to do. Don't worry about it being Linux based, it's just what operates the router and has nothing to do with compatibility with Windows. It also has better memory than the regular G versions. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124190 (http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124190). Thats the sucker you want right there.
BTW if you want to do wireless over wired then don't worry about connections dropping out or performance loss. There is no difference in performance from wired over wireless. Period. Unless you have an internet connection that can download about 50MB+. For all your computer information http://www.diy-street.com/forum/ (www.diy-street.com) (formerly dfi-street.com but DFI stopped supporting the site so the forum admins and moderators took over completely, which is a good thing) goes unmatched. A forum with dedicated PC enthusiasts just like the AV enthusiasts found on this site.
dukealexan 02-14-07, 09:18 AM Make sure the router is on the MS list or you will could have problems with live play. You can test a router thru the 360 network test, the big thing to look out for is the NAT status, you want opened or you could have problems hearing and talking to others because of their routers. The MS approved routers will work with multy xbox on the same network and have an open NAT. If you choose a router that is not on the list, use the port forwarding to feature to forward all live traffic to your 360, check the ms networking links for the info.
newfmp3 02-14-07, 09:33 AM I've had some wireless issues in the house lately so here's my experience with a few I have tried.
Netgear 614 that I used for years. Simple, cheap, easy to setup. Wired performance is so so, but wireless is even less then so so...or should I say slow. Wireless range was excellent but was too easily interruoted by microwaves and other wireless routers
Dlink: Excellent setup options if not the best. Options there for almost everything you would want to do with a router. Wired performance worse then Netgear, but Wireless was faster. Eventually got rid of it due to my downloads were not consistently quick. It would go in spurts of speed, then slow down. Almost like it was having issues with processing lots of data or # of connections. Perhaps CPU in it isn't quite fast enough. I did have a cheaper 524 model so that certainly doesn't help. Wireless Range was poor. Single Antenna.
Linksys (54g ver 5). Excellent wired and wireless performance/range. But, the menu/setup is horrible. Can't even setup a ip reservation in dhcp. DDNS doesn't always update, and everyone I have put out seems to stop working and require a reboot from time to time. Like it freezes.
In the end, I'm still using the linksys. I'd rate like this
performance
1.linksys
2.netgear
3. Dlink
setup and good menu
1. Dlink
2 netgear
3 linksys
In the end I settled with the linksys.
GrooveRite 02-14-07, 09:47 AM Linksys (54g ver 5). Excellent wired and wireless performance/range. But, the menu/setup is horrible. Can't even setup a ip reservation in dhcp. DDNS doesn't always update, and everyone I have put out seems to stop working and require a reboot from time to time. Like it freezes.
I think all Linksys routers suffer this. I used to have a Linksys wireless B router and it wouldnt assign IPs properly to my laptop or my comp which was directly connected. I would reboot it and then it work fine but eventually it slowly became a daily occurance. I dumped it and now use my roomates Belkin router without many problems.
newfmp3 02-14-07, 10:11 AM actually, I should state, right now I'm using the linksys router in conbination with a Cisco Aironet 1232 series Access point for Wireless :)
Guess what I do for a living.
Joe Diver 02-14-07, 10:14 AM I think you missed the point. To save you a few bucks, edcopareke recommended you move the modem/router to near your 360, hardwire the xbox, then wirelessly link the PC. But, if you can't move the modem/router, it doesn't matter. Personally, I'd prefer to have my main PC hardwired though.
No, you missed my point....my internet connection is in my study, on the other side of the house. It would be impractical and cost $$$$ to move it to, or run it to the living room where my 360 is. My cable internet is a dedicated run to the study. :(
Theoretically, the range is about 98ft. Also, "a" is absorbed easier. My Xbox is 1 room and 1 wall away.
"a" isn't necessary, but it helps that it is not competing with all the other wireless things around.
WirelessGuru 02-15-07, 08:31 PM I use a Linksys with wireless a & g, since the MS router supports 802.11a (5GHz) and actually recommends it over 802.11g. Reason being that the controllers (and the wireless mic) are on 2.4GHz, as well as most other network clutter if you have neighbors in close proximity.
You can also do a search of your neighbors networks with netstumbler and determine which channels they are using within the 2.4 ghz ISM band. For DSSS systems there are 3 channels that do not overlap. Channels 1, 6, and 11. Channel 6 is usually the router default. Some routers also use proprietary compression software to "boost" throughput. Disable any of these data "boosting" protocols and try to use one of the 3 channels that isn't being used in your immediate area to help sustain a more reliable network signal.
formulanerd 02-15-07, 10:26 PM i love my linksys
opensource firmware DD-WRT sp2
200mhz processor overclocked to 220
32mb ram
8mb flash
the DD-WRT is the best looking AND most functional i've seen in any router.
add in bandwidth shaping and Quality of Service, and you've got a winner.
going with a company that is a division of Cisco Systems is a no-brainer. choosing a router with opensource firmware capable of transforming a $60 router into a $600 router... also a no-brainer.
Atrocity 02-15-07, 10:30 PM I have a Linksys USB wireless adapter on my desktop PC. The XBOX 360 sits right next to it. The cable modem and the router in another room. I was able to bridge my wireless USB adapter connection with the ethernet card. And when I have the ethernet cable plugged into the bridged ethernet card slot and to the 360. I'm able to get on LIVE. Simple solution. I didn't want to buy the $100 USD wireless adapter that Microsoft sells. I've been playing Lost Planet online with this method I have had no problems.
aronparsons 02-16-07, 12:24 AM I think all Linksys routers suffer this. I used to have a Linksys wireless B router and it wouldnt assign IPs properly to my laptop or my comp which was directly connected. I would reboot it and then it work fine but eventually it slowly became a daily occurance. I dumped it and now use my roomates Belkin router without many problems.
I can't believe there is this much discussion on here about this, but if you want the best solution pick up a brand new Linksys WRT54GS or an older (v4 or older) WRT54G; avoid brand new WRT54G units due to the decreased memory and change in architecture. Load the dd-wrt firmware on it and you have the best in performance, configuration options, and reliability. The units sell for cheap too; you can probably get one brand new for $35-$45.
formulanerd 02-16-07, 01:37 AM I can't believe there is this much discussion on here about this, but if you want the best solution pick up a brand new Linksys WRT54GS or an older (v4 or older) WRT54G; avoid brand new WRT54G units due to the decreased memory and change in architecture. Load the dd-wrt firmware on it and you have the best in performance, configuration options, and reliability. The units sell for cheap too; you can probably get one brand new for $35-$45.
finally someone else with some sense :P
CupCak3 02-17-07, 11:20 PM except for the fact there are more and better players in the open source firmware market than Linksys... but yes I do agree this is pretty much a "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of thread...
KingLion 02-21-07, 12:46 AM Just a quick say: I bought a Linksys WRT 54G v6 and my xbox would not even recognize it. My laptop did but not my xbox for whatever reason. It kept picking up other in the neighborhood I guess and one was a belkin so I went and bough that. Worked perfectly and is fast...Using TVersity also which is awesome to stream over since I dont have WMC or Vista. The Belkin is a Wireless G Plus MIMO Router
Pineapple 02-21-07, 01:26 AM I went ahead and got the Linksys WRT54GL. Thanks guys!
swissarmybottle 10-17-07, 01:08 PM Seems like the Linksys WRT54GL is the router to get... but I've always heard LinkSUCKS and that I should go D-Link to get wireless.
Anyway, I was struggling with my 360 wireless live as well. I went through many different routers and trips to Fry's to finally find one that I like. End Result: D-Link WGL-4300.
This router came installed with firmware 1.7 (not on the xbox live compatible list) so I changed that to 1.6. So, using 1.6, rainbow six vegas online games worked great.. but for some reason, I couldn't watch video clips on youtube (the clips would start but would then stop after like 10-20 seconds) but i could do all other internet surfing. This was with gamefuel on AND off. Then, I tried firmware 1.8 just to see if it was xbox live compatible... nope red dots on all the rainbow six vegas games i tried to join.
Finally, I downgraded to firmware 1.3. It was taking a REALLY long time for the router to get connected to the internet, so I let it sit over night... in the morning, I try watching videos online, and voila... all the youtube videos i tried worked. signed on to xbox live... joined a rainbow six game... three green dots! AWESOME! and this is without gamefuel on, gotta love it.
So, for now, my system is working. Any of you guys try both the DGL-4300 and the Linksys WRT54GL? I would love to hear some comparisons. Oh, and for you rainbow six vegas guys that want to add another friend to your friends list, feel free to add me: Benatard9
hotdogwater2 10-17-07, 03:36 PM Buffalo WHR-G125... it's their later model of G router. $30 at circuit city:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Buffalo-Technology-Wireless-G-High-Speed-Router-WHR-G125/sem/rpsm/oid/184832/catOid/-12980/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
And if you're interested in custom firmware, DD-WRT runs on there too...
I have the linksys wrt55ag (version 2). I wanted to use the "a" signal for my 360 but the signal cuts out intermittently. I switched the the "g" signal and have no problems whatsoever. I have been meaning to call linksys about the problem, but haven't got around to it yet.
NickG1215 10-17-07, 10:09 PM i'd go with the wrt54 with the dd-wrt firmware too.
in all honesty though, don't spend too much on an N router or something like that, at least not yet. just stick with a solid d-link or linksys G router and you'll be good. heck, i'm using a dlink di-524 that i got for $15 and its worked amazingly well for me
RAVEN56706 11-27-07, 12:58 PM if you are looking for a good wireless n router... i say go with the Linksys WRT330N Gaming Router...
i had originally the WRT300N but i had the NAT problem.... with the wrt330n, i have NAT OPEN again...
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