Looks like Fox and MGM plan on canceling some of the latest Blu-ray releases.

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=3185

I doubt it. Fox just announced Turistas last week. Perhaps a delay?

According to the Digital Bits this is untrue:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9757192&&#post9757192

They're getting ready to go format nuetral.... :o

What??? :D:D

Maybe somebody realized they are cranking out barebones discs of (mostly) B and C level catalog titles and charging $40 for them?

They're getting ready to go format nuetral.... :o

Uh-huh. :rolleyes: :D

This confirms what has been listed here a few times this weekend. And what will happen now with BD's vaunted sales lead.

With Warner's issues with Blu Ray (BD-J) and now Fox/MGM having to postpone titles for whatever reason, things aren't looking to good for Blu Ray.

Huh, we just got four more titles announced for that period in the past few days. Box office losers like Night At The Museum, Pursuit of Happyness, Rocky Balboa, etc.

This confirms what has been listed here a few times this weekend. And what will happen now with BD's vaunted sales lead.

With Warner's issues with Blu Ray (BD-J) and now Fox/MGM having to postpone titles for whatever reason, things aren't looking to good for Blu Ray.

Oh man, you are about to get so flamed.......

Oh man, you are about to get so flamed.......

I think he's right. We should all sell our Blu-ray discs and players while we can still get a buck or two back. Before the HD DVD gods strike our beloved format dead.

Okay, now back to reality. :p

Oh, no :eek: Looks like Blu-ray is dead for sure.

The end of Blu-ray. :(

Mods: Please retitle this thread to Fox & MGM Rescheduling Several Releases. This is confirmed on thedigitalbits.com today. No cancelled titles at all.

~Josh

This confirms what has been listed here a few times this weekend. And what will happen now with BD's vaunted sales lead.

With Warner's issues with Blu Ray (BD-J) and now Fox/MGM having to postpone titles for whatever reason, things aren't looking to good for Blu Ray.
I was kidding... are you?

Oh, no :eek: Looks like Blu-ray is dead for sure.

What dif you expect? It doesn't have an exclusive format seller like "The Jerk" coming anytime soon.

What dif you expect? It doesn't have an exclusive format seller like "The Jerk" coming anytime soon.

Literally LOL. :D

What dif you expect? It doesn't have an exclusive format seller like "The Jerk" coming anytime soon.

That is the problem with blu-ray, never any new releases to look forward to.

Thread retitled. I'll leave it up to individual posters to edit posts that no longer fit.

Titles rescheduled. Oh boy looks like blu-ray is dead. :D

More confirmation it's just a delay, not a cancellation:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disc_Announcements/Fox/Fox_Reshuffles_March/April_Blu-ray_Line-Up_/472

I hope they go back and add in all the SD version extras. That'll be worth the extra wait.

What dif you expect? It doesn't have an exclusive format seller like "The Jerk" coming anytime soon.
"Hey Harry. Look at this. What's the matter with these HD DVD players?"
"These HD DVD players are defective! They're springing leaks! Come over here and look at this!" [sounds of gunshots]
"He hates these HD DVD players! Stay away from the HD DVD players!"

I had 16 reasons to get a PS3... there goes 8 of them. That's a LOT of titles to move around... 11 titles? I mean, I can see 2 or 3 because of scheduling, but it's been like 5 weeks since they were announced.

IMO, they've probably been compelled to provide all the available capacities and allocations to the heavy hitters (Night at the Museum, Eragon, Rocky Balboa). Just a little inconvenience.

IMO I somewhat welcome this delay as it will fill gaps later in the year with some great catalog releases. I was getting the feeling that they (BDA) were oversaturating the market with releases vs. the amount of BD players currently on the market. I would expect to see these rescheduled releases at some time during the summer.

~Josh

I canceled my order for Hannibal, SotL, and Commando. :mad: These better be making an appearance sooner than later.


Thes eare the exact titles I wanted too.

Dammit!

What dif you expect? It doesn't have an exclusive format seller like "The Jerk" coming anytime soon.


You know there could be a cool parallel to that movie for HD-DVD. You know the story of the optigrab don't you? :D

It seemed like such a sure thing at first when they had their success and then we know how it ended up, all they'll have is their thermos and...

IMO I somewhat welcome this delay as it will fill gaps later in the year with some great catalog releases. I was getting the feeling that they (BDA) were oversaturating the market with releases vs. the amount of BD players currently on the market. I would expect to see these rescheduled releases at some time during the summer.

~JoshBut I thought the CES "win" was based entirely on these sacred release lists?... :rolleyes:

This confirms what has been listed here a few times this weekend. And what will happen now with BD's vaunted sales lead.

With Warner's issues with Blu Ray (BD-J) and now Fox/MGM having to postpone titles for whatever reason, things aren't looking to good for Blu Ray.

Go away...

Is this a result of the AACS exploit that may have delayed Universals HD DVD releases?

That mueslix AACS crack hit HD DVD first then Blu-ray later.

I canceled my order for Hannibal, SotL, and Commando. :mad: These better be making an appearance sooner than later.

Why cancel? I'm keeping my order for SOTL as it stands.

Why cancel? I'm keeping my order for SOTL as it stands.
dvd empire gave me no choice and cancelled my pre-orders for the ones that were delayed today.

This is very curious.

It seems to me that this was a short plan to bombard HD DVD with new releases in order to create an illusion that Blu-ray has taken over, or reaching the finish line first.

Now it seems that those announcements were just another strategy in the war for format dominance.

Curious indeed.

Infact I just found the official update from a FOX distributor that these titles were cancelled! Not delayed due to technical reasons. :eek:

Here are the links for FOX and MGM.

http://www.foxretail.com/sadoc/static/528.pdf

http://www.foxretail.com/sadoc/static/530.pdf

Now it seems that those announcements were just another strategy in the war for format dominance.

Curious indeed.
Like when someone announced Jaws and Jurassic Park???? I think your getting a little TO excited over this. March and April were a little bloated with a whopping 43 releases anyways... now its only 32. Nice try though. :o

Infact I just found the official update from a FOX distributor that these titles were cancelled! Not delayed due to technical reasons. :eek:

Here are the links for FOX and MGM.

http://www.foxretail.com/sadoc/static/528.pdf

http://www.foxretail.com/sadoc/static/530.pdf

Nowhere in those press release it state that those are cancelled...

it say : Due to some unforseen technical difficulties (read BR reproduction problems here), we are unable to release the titles listed below. Please disregard any previous announcement regarding these titles and or promotion.

Previous announcement where the dates. Every single DVD website have called Fox today for information and the PR director said those were rescheduled (read delayed)

Huh, we just got four more titles announced for that period in the past few days. Box office losers like Night At The Museum, Pursuit of Happyness, Rocky Balboa, etc.


Do you really think that the above movies will be released that soon? Specially Pursuit of Happiness, Night at the Museum, and Rocky Balboa be it they are still at theatres.

Maybe to add BD+?

Do you really think that the above movies will be released that soon? Specially Pursuit of Happiness, Night at the Museum, and Rocky Balboa be it they are still at theatres.
YES!!! March and April.

Do you really think that the above movies will be released that soon? Specially Pursuit of Happiness, Night at the Museum, and Rocky Balboa be it they are still at theatres.

No reason to think it's not possible. This kind of thing has happened with new release DVDs for years. I recall a DVD street date being announced for I Still Know What You Did Last Summer the day it was released in theaters! Doesn't sound like great marketing to do it that way but so it goes.

Mods: Please retitle this thread to Fox & MGM Rescheduling Several Releases. This is confirmed on thedigitalbits.com today. No cancelled titles at all.

~Josh

Are they just "rescheduled", like the Princess Bride? :D

Like when someone announced Jaws and Jurassic Park???? I think your getting a little TO excited over this. March and April were a little bloated with a whopping 43 releases anyways... now its only 32. Nice try though. :o
Why, until the next announcement?

You can't depend on announcements, they can always be altered or cancelled.

No reason to think it's not possible. This kind of thing has happened with new release DVDs for years. I recall a DVD street date being announced for I Still Know What You Did Last Summer the day it was released in theaters! Doesn't sound like great marketing to do it that way but so it goes.

Isn't this the reason why UK theatre owners decided not to show Night at the Museum? The UK release of the DVD is coming in 2 or so months - they want a bigger window to show a movie before it hits, closer to 4 months.

rocky balboa is still in theaters...????
where?

Nowhere in those press release it state that those are cancelled...

it say : Due to some unforseen technical difficulties (read BR reproduction problems here), we are unable to release the titles listed below. Please disregard any previous announcement regarding these titles and or promotion.

Previous announcement where the dates. Every single DVD website have called Fox today for information and the PR director said those were rescheduled (read delayed)

that looks like canceled to me....

though im basing this off only what you quoted...i dont feel like reading the announcement.

This confirms what has been listed here a few times this weekend. And what will happen now with BD's vaunted sales lead.

With Warner's issues with Blu Ray (BD-J) and now Fox/MGM having to postpone titles for whatever reason, things aren't looking to good for Blu Ray.

As was said earlier, there was just an article on Hi-def Digest about Turistas on February 8th it wil be released April 17th.

I think the vaunted schedule is very much intact, Casino Royale, Pirates I and II, Cars, etc, etc, etc.

rocky balboa is still in theaters...????
where?

Discount $2-4 theaters at the crappy open-air malls downtown! ;)

IMO I somewhat welcome this delay as it will fill gaps later in the year with some great catalog releases.

Josh, where did you get those all-purpose rose-colored glasses? I want some!

Sounds like someone's eyes are bigger than their stomachs.

Too many titles ready for launch, not enough pressing plants.

I'm sure they will come out, just not quite yet.

It does put a little cramp in the current BR momentum, though. Sounds like there might be a drought like HD DVD has right now.

At least four titles there particularly Dances with Wolves. Too bad.

Sounds like someone's eyes are bigger than their stomachs.

Too many titles ready for launch, not enough pressing plants.

Sounds very reasonable. I remember there being a shortage of Warner's "Contact" DVD because it was the first dual layer disc at the time.

Oh no! Silence of the Lambs is in there.... guess I will have to keep relying on my HD-DVD of Clerks 2 for the tucked pecker dance. ;)

Like when someone announced Jaws and Jurassic Park???? I think your getting a little TO excited over this. March and April were a little bloated with a whopping 43 releases anyways... now its only 32. Nice try though. :o

Yet if the HD camp had titles that were delayed and canceled the BR camp would say 'Universal is going neutral! We won'. You just lost 1/4 of your lineup....congrats.

please end this stupid thread mods, a bunch of children are playing too much :(

-Gary

Yet if the HD camp had titles that were delayed and canceled the BR camp would say 'Universal is going neutral! We won'. You just lost 1/4 of your lineup....congrats.

HD DVD lost 50% on their 2/6 releases when Failure to Launch failed to launch. :/

At least you guys have a sense of humor about it. :p

What happened to the thread that was in the HD DVD forum? Was it deleted or moved?

A couple key reasons:

1. A few of those titles were stated to be released on March 13. We all know it's the Bond day. I think Fox wants to avoid losing sales to it.

2. A very likely scenario. 500,000 Dual Layer discs (yes, Europe won't get a different 25gb version) need to be processed for Casino Royale in Europe. That's a heck of a lot of discs. Considering not a single HD DVD or Blu-ray is anywhere remotely close to 100k in production, let alone sales, this is very taxing for the replicators. They need time to churn out the half million discs, with probably more than 1 dedicated solely for Casino Royale.

A couple key reasons:

1. A few of those titles were stated to be released on March 13. We all know it's the Bond day. I think Fox wants to avoid losing sales to it.

2. A very likely scenario. 500,000 Dual Layer discs (yes, Europe won't get a different 25gb version) need to be processed for Casino Royale in Europe. That's a heck of a lot of discs. Considering not a single HD DVD or Blu-ray is anywhere remotely close to 100k in production, let alone sales, this is very taxing for the replicators. They need time to churn out the half million discs, with probably more than 1 dedicated solely for Casino Royale.
Very good. :D

At least you guys have a sense of humor about it. :p

Yep, I'll only have Casino Royale, Hoosiers, Layer Cake, and Mr. & Mrs. Smith competing for a piece of my wallet on 3/13. I guess I'll be able to pay the mortgage in March after all. :)

A couple key reasons:

1. A few of those titles were stated to be released on March 13. We all know it's the Bond day. I think Fox wants to avoid losing sales to it.

2. A very likely scenario. 500,000 Dual Layer discs (yes, Europe won't get a different 25gb version) need to be processed for Casino Royale in Europe. That's a heck of a lot of discs. Considering not a single HD DVD or Blu-ray is anywhere remotely close to 100k in production, let alone sales, this is very taxing for the replicators. They need time to churn out the half million discs, with probably more than 1 dedicated solely for Casino Royale.

Good excuse!

I find it amusing that both sides in this format war have to keep retracting announcements. Most of the stuff affected is B-type movie fare anyway.

Good excuse!

No, My theory about the replicators make sense; it would be an excuse if someone like Bill Hunt confirmed Dances with Wolves, Commando, Silence of the Lambs for Blu-ray and Fox would shoot it down and order the titles to be taken off the list. Then I'd be making excuses trying to defend it. :cool:

Fact is, these titles were announced with specs and release dates, and will be revised when ready. In the mean time, I've got enough titles that need my buying attention.

I find it amusing that both sides in this format war have to keep retracting announcements. Most of the stuff affected is B-type movie fare anyway.
Yep, as long as this doesn't affect Master and Commander from Fox in May...I couldn't care less right now. :) There's more announced by June 8, 2007 than I had planned to buy all year. Not that "more than I planned" is going to stop me from buying. :) If it's one of my favorites, and it's up to snuff on HD, it will be mine. I'd buy 400 BDs this year if they were all movies I liked and done right in HD.

eightninesuited,

I agree with your analogy, but Sony made 400,000 Ricky Bobby discs for giving away with the US PS3. Of course with the up coming schedule I could see production problems.

No, My theory about the replicators make sense; it would be an excuse if someone like Bill Hunt confirmed Dances with Wolves, Commando, Silence of the Lambs for Blu-ray and Fox would shoot it down and order the titles to be taken off the list. Then I'd be making excuses trying to defend it. :cool:

Fact is, these titles were announced with specs and release dates, and will be revised when ready. In the mean time, I've got enough titles that need my buying attention.

Whatever helps you feel better. I'm sure the 500k Bonds were ready many moons ago in anticipation of the PS3 launch.

eightninesuited,

I agree with your analogy, but Sony made 400,000 Ricky Bobby discs for giving away with the US PS3. Of course with the up coming schedule I could see production problems.
Those were on BD25s though. His theory was that BD50 replication is why Casino Royale needs so much of their resources.

Sorry, I misread his post. I thought he stated that they WOULD be 25gb. Thats great news for Europe!

Yep, I'll only have Casino Royale, Hoosiers, Layer Cake, and Mr. & Mrs. Smith competing for a piece of my wallet on 3/13. I guess I'll be able to pay the mortgage in March after all. :)

Layer Cake and Casino Royale will be the must buys. I might pick up Mr. & Mrs. Smith.

Layer Cake and Casino Royale will be the must buys. I might pick up Mr. & Mrs. Smith.

Only if you want to see Angela Jolie's luscious lips in 1080p.

eightninesuited,

I agree with your analogy, but Sony made 400,000 Ricky Bobby discs for giving away with the US PS3.

Those were 25gb discs. These are 50gb we're talking about. As we know, production of 50gb discs are still not up to par with 25gb. It's getting there, but not yet.

This is very curious.

It seems to me that this was a short plan to bombard HD DVD with new releases in order to create an illusion that Blu-ray has taken over, or reaching the finish line first.

Now it seems that those announcements were just another strategy in the war for format dominance.

Curious indeed.

Sounds like more blu spin gone BAD.

There is spin on both sides.

Maybe to add BD+?

This is the same thought I had whenever I read the story last night.

~Alan

There is spin on both sides.
Yeah, but Blu-ray were the ones that used something as unpredictable as movie release schedules. Now the edge swings back to the HD DVD fanboys.

Yeah, but Blu-ray were the ones that used something as unpredictable as movie release schedules. Now the edge swings back to the HD DVD fanboys.

You're seriously forgetting the 300 titles HD DVD is promising by year's end? And BTW, the edge will never swing back to HD DVD. :p

You're seriously forgetting the 300 titles HD DVD is promising by year's end? And BTW, the edge will never swing back to HD DVD. :p

I believe that is actually 300 worldwide and 150 in the U.S. :)

You're seriously forgetting the 300 titles HD DVD is promising by year's end? And BTW, the edge will never swing back to HD DVD. :p
Too early to call, we're still in February. :)

Current Release Schedule i count 40 Blu-Ray Title currently annonced from Feb 13 to End of April and 16 HD DVD title currently annonced.

Feb 13

Broken Arrow (BR)
Chain Reaction(BR)
Chronos(BR)
Entrapment(BR)
Ladder 49(BR)
Phone Booth(BR)
Planet Of The Apes(BR)
Reign Of Fire(BR)
The Departed(BR)
The Departed HD/DVD Combo (HDDVD)
The Marine(BR)
The Sentinel(BR)
The Usual Suspects(BR)

Feb 20

Babel(BR)
Babel (HDDVD)
The Prestige(BR)
Vertical Limit (BR)

Feb 27

Bullitt(BR)
Bullitt(HDDVD)
Digital Video Essential HD DVD(HDDVD)
NIN Live: Beside You In Time(BR)
Nine Inch Nails Live : Beside You In Time(HDDVD)
The Gateway(BR)
The Gateway(HDDVD)

March 13

Casino Royale(BR)
Layer Cake(BR)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith(BR)

March 20

Big Fish(BR)
Blood Diamond(BR)
Blood Diamond(HDDVD)
Chiken Little(BR)
Eragon(BR)
Finding Neverland(BR)
Rocky Balboa(BR)
The Holidays (BR)

March 27

Happy Feet(BR)
Happy Feet HD/DVD Combo(HDDVD)
March Of The Penguins(BR)
March Of The Penguins(HDDVD)
National Geographic: Relentless Enemies(BR)
Relentless Ennemies(HDDVD)
The Puirsuit Of Happyness(BR)

April 3

G.I. Jane(BR)
Identity(BR)
King Arthur Director's Cut(BR)
Me, Myself & Irene(BR)
The Good Shepherd HD/DVD Combo(HDDVD)
Warriors Of Heaven And Earth(BR)

April 10

Payback : Director's Cut(BR)
Payback: Straight Up - The Director's Cut(HDDVD)

April 17

The Game(HDDVD)
The Jerk (HDDVD)

April 24

Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind(HDDVD)
Night At The Museum(BR)
Planet Earth(BR)
Planet Earth: The Complete Collection(HDDVD)
Secret Window(BR)
The Nutty Professor (HDDVD)

Yeah, but Blu-ray were the ones that used something as unpredictable as movie release schedules. Now the edge swings back to the HD DVD fanboys.

Like the vaporware 51gb disc? Or the sub $200 players???

Wow, those HD DVD guys are marketing gurus.

Like the vaporware 51gb disc? Or the sub $200 players???

Wow, those HD DVD guys are marketing gurus.
Question them when they don't deliever when the promised date gets here.

They sais 51G by the end of the year, and sub $300 players by the same time.

Your guys, who are obviously Blu-ray by the way you earnestly defend them, promised and cancelled. Not the same thing.

Besides I believe there would be 51G discs just as I believed that Blu-ray would have BD50 when the HD DVD fanboys said that too was vaporware. ;)

Your guys, who are obviously Blu-ray by the way you earnestly defend them, promised and cancelled. Not the same thing.

It sucks that they have delayed (not cancelled) some titles.

Where is "the shawshank redemption", "matrix" and other titles that HD DVD promised in 2006.

Both sides say things and don't deliver. They are both guilty. Don't act like it is just blu ray.

It sucks that they have delayed (not cancelled) some titles.

Where is "the shawshank redemption", "matrix" and other titles that HD DVD promised in 2006.

Both sides say things and don't deliver. They are both guilty. Don't act like it is just blu ray.
I admit you are right, but Blu-ray does most things bigger and larger than life. And thus their mistakes are more visible.

I admit you are right, but Blu-ray does most things bigger and larger than life. And thus their mistakes are more visible.

Like having an insert in every Warner disc showing Harry potter and the goblet of fire, the matrix and the shawshank redemption "coming in 2006".

That seems pretty visible.

Very weak argument.

FWIW, I did get Harry Potter GOF in 2006. It's been the top selling HD DVD in the UK since it was released - perhaps due to it being imported here.

Shawshank and Matrix. That's another thing . We'll probably get them on THD disks ....

FWIW, I did get Harry Potter GOF in 2006. It's been the top selling HD DVD in the UK since it was released - perhaps due to it being imported here.

Shawshank and Matrix. That's another thing . We'll probably get them on THD disks ....

Hey Plazman,

I know it is available in the UK. I just don't want to import it.

I just think that these type of arguments are getting so old.

Both sides have screwed the pooch one way or the other. I am sure it will happen quite a bit more in the next year.

While we are on the subject of THD discs, do you think warner is just waiting to release everything on THD? Looks like it. Of course I don't think they can get it up and running by July.

A couple key reasons:

1. A few of those titles were stated to be released on March 13. We all know it's the Bond day. I think Fox wants to avoid losing sales to it.

2. A very likely scenario. 500,000 Dual Layer discs (yes, Europe won't get a different 25gb version) need to be processed for Casino Royale in Europe. That's a heck of a lot of discs. Considering not a single HD DVD or Blu-ray is anywhere remotely close to 100k in production, let alone sales, this is very taxing for the replicators. They need time to churn out the half million discs, with probably more than 1 dedicated solely for Casino Royale.


Really, I guess Ricky Bobby and King Kong don't exist then. Both were give aways in much larger numbers than 100,000.

Like having an insert in every Warner disc showing Harry potter and the goblet of fire, the matrix and the shawshank redemption "coming in 2006".

That seems pretty visible.

Very weak argument.

Talk to Warner about that, not Universal.

Sounds like more blu spin gone BAD.Besides the fact that you really shouldn't be posting in this section of the forum haven't you already had your fun (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9760184&&#post9760184) with this news?


Question them when they don't deliever when the promised date gets here.You mean like the 89 HD DVD titles announced at the 2005 CES which they were supposed to be released in the fall of 2005 or triple layer HD DVD which was supposed to be added to the HD DVD specs back in 2005?


They sais 51G by the end of the year, and sub $300 players by the same time.Triple layer HD DVD has been promised before and none of the HD DVD companies have promised cheap HD DVD players.


Really, I guess Ricky Bobby and King Kong don't exist then. Both were give aways in much larger numbers than 100,000.I agree with you about Talladega Nights, but does anyone really know how many King Kong discs were given away with the Xbox 360 add-on?

Talk to Warner about that, not Universal.

What????

Current Release Schedule i count 40 Blu-Ray Title currently annonced from Feb 13 to End of April and 16 HD DVD title currently annonced.



March 27

Happy Feet(BR)
Happy Feet HD/DVD Combo(HDDVD)
March Of The Penguins(BR)
March Of The Penguins(HDDVD)
National Geographic: Relentless Enemies(BR)
Relentless Ennemies(HDDVD)
The Puirsuit Of Happyness(BR)





You're missing some HD-DVD releases...
March 27
Children of Men
School for Scoundrels
Harsh Times
Feast

According to the Digital Bits this is untrue:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9757192&&#post9757192
I'm coming in late, so I'm sure that it's now clear that the clarification on Digital Bits asserts that this is only a delay to the releases, not that the announcements are untrue...

EDIT: Having now checked Amazon and a couple other sources, it looks like these titles have been removed. That being the case then this is really a Cancellation :eek: I'm sure that some time in the future they may put them back on a release schedule, but it says clearly to me that they have no idea when these will really be available at this point...

One wonders... I can think of three possible reasons for the widespread rescheduling and delays:

1) The much-talked-about BD-J problems are affecting pretty much all the studios except Sony (and of course, Universal).
2) The studios anticipated much higher BR sales after the PS3 launch and feel that there are not yet enough buyers to justify this many releases this soon.
3) They are planning to release on Warner's Total HD in both formats (OK, that's a longshot, but I thought it would be fun :) No need to flame!)

It's bait and switch, but doesn't affect me as I didn't bite on any of these overpriced Fox catalog titles. I'll wait until prices are more reasonable. I wonder what the differences in catalog title sales rates between Warner and LG (~$20 retail), Disney (~$20-23), and Fox (~$28).

One wonders... I can think of three possible reasons for the widespread rescheduling and delays:

1) The much-talked-about BD-J problems are affecting pretty much all the studios except Sony (and of course, Universal).
2) The studios anticipated much higher BR sales after the PS3 launch and feel that there are not yet enough buyers to justify this many releases this soon.
3) They are planning to release on Warner's Total HD in both formats (OK, that's a longshot, but I thought it would be fun :) No need to flame!)

1) you have NO proof of the BD-J causing delays. Please provide documentation for your rant.

2) This could be possible. I will give you that one. A 2:1 sales lead for blu ray over hd dvd is nothing to be proud about (in 2007). :D

3) This would be the easiest for me to believe. They are going to push the THD disc. I doubt that is a "longshot".

1) you have NO proof of the BD-J causing delays. Please provide documentation for your rant.

2) This could be possible. I will give you that one. A 2:1 sales lead for blu ray over hd dvd is nothing to be proud about (in 2007). :D

3) This would be the easiest for me to believe. They are going to push the THD disc. I doubt that is a "longshot".
phansson - you have a virtual flame war going with me in other threads today, so I'm not surprised to see you post here also.

I will point out that my post was intended only to represent some thoughts on a few possible reasons for these announcements by Fox and MGM - so there's really nothing to argue about here...

2) This could be possible. I will give you that one. A 2:1 sales lead for blu ray over hd dvd is nothing to be proud about (in 2007). :D


You know it just occured to me that Blu-ray has since the end of December been releasing titles at an almost 5-1 ratio to HD DVD.
Curious that the lead is merely 2-1 this year doesn't it ? If they are releasing so much more and are only leading by a mere 2-1 ratio, this must mean that the averages are affected by the amount of logs on the fire, not that Blu-ray is outright outselling HD DVD. ;)
What do you think?

I know that since I bought my PS3 on Dec 31st I have purchased 30 Blu Ray movies, but only 5 HD DVDs. I have had a HD DVD player since launch, but have been stuck at 97 titles for a while now.

I know that since I bought my PS3 on Dec 31st I have purchased 30 Blu Ray movies, but only 5 HD DVDs. I have had a HD DVD player since launch, but have been stuck at 97 titles for a while now.
I think they are about to start releasing their promised titles.

You know it just occured to me that Blu-ray has since the end of December been releasing titles at an almost 5-1 ratio to HD DVD.
Curious that the lead is merely 2-1 this year doesn't it ? If they are releasing so much more and are only leading by a mere 2-1 ratio, this must mean that the averages are affected by the amount of logs on the fire, not that Blu-ray is outright outselling HD DVD. ;)
What do you think?

I think you're just trying to think of a way to put a positive spin on a negative event for HD DVD.

Blu-ray has sold more discs since the beginning of the year than HD DVD. The fact that you're using the excuse that it's because they've released more is pretty weird. I mean isn't it common sense?