Anybody got Reign of Fire. I haven't seen any review for it either.

I got it... my initial thoughts are in the other thread on the front page of the BD software section.

It looks friggin fantastic. Even though the film has a somewhat muted color palette, the details really standout and pop. Fleshtones are really good.....you can just see the sweat beads. Very 3-D like with tons of depth. Disney/Buena Vista did a great job with such a dark film. The audio is very LOUD!! This is another top notch PCM track. LOTS of surround action and deep punchy bass & as I said LOUD!! Does it get any better than this? With Planet Of The Apes stellar track earlier today and now Reign of Fire....im in audio heaven.

I doubt I'll be the only one to mention it but, I found quite a bit of Edge Enhancement on this title. I like the movie and I had it originally on DVD. DVD showed the same amount of Edge Enhancement. This is the worst I've seen in terms of EE out of my collection of Blu-ray Disks.

The audio is great though!

I have to agree. I have the HD-DVD version from Japan and I do not see the edge enhancement problems that I'm noticing with the BD version. I'm using the PS3 but I doubt that's a reason for the problem. On either my A-1 or 360 HD player theres no issue.

Why in the hell do do they do that to their releases? I really hope you are wrong but I doubt you are. How dissapointing. When are the people doing the masters going to realize we're not watching things on crappy 27 inch TVs anymore and knock it off with the EE.

I have to agree. I have the HD-DVD version from Japan and I do not see the edge enhancement problems that I'm noticing with the BD version. I'm using the PS3 but I doubt that's a reason for the problem. On either my A-1 or 360 HD player theres no issue.
Okay so the Japanese HD-DVD is the best version of this movie, PQ-wise? If so, I'm just going to go with that and order it.

It looks friggin fantastic. Even though the film has a somewhat muted color palette, the details really standout and pop. Fleshtones are really good.....you can just see the sweat beads. Very 3-D like with tons of depth. Disney/Buena Vista did a great job with such a dark film. The audio is very LOUD!! This is another top notch PCM track. LOTS of surround action and deep punchy bass & as I said LOUD!! Does it get any better than this? With Planet Of The Apes stellar track earlier today and now Reign of Fire....im in audio heaven.

Codec, please :) ?

Chads take is found here:
http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/dvd-review.php?sequence=1852

Chads take is found here:
http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/dvd-review.php?sequence=1852

I think I will have to go along with Chad on this one. :)

Chads take is found here:
http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/dvd-review.php?sequence=1852

Definite purchase!

This movie is worth it regardless of format it's just a little edge enhancement issue on BD that is noticable but I don't think it would of been a big deal had I not already seen the HD-DVD version. Again I cannot see why this is the case since both use AVC mpeg-4.

Yeah, that review by Chad just elevated my priority level for Reign of Fire. I am so lovin' High Def.

Where can I buy it. Local BB doesn't have it, or walmart or target or circuit city.

Watching it right now. Just picked myine up at CC(only received one copy at two CC's in town). Definately not a bright and cheery film. But is does sound good and the Dragons are bad "Mutha's"

Where can I buy it. Local BB doesn't have it, or walmart or target or circuit city.

Just ordered mine from Amazon.com after reading Chads review.

I hate ordering online. I have to wait for it etc etc. I just want to go to the store and get it right away.

I truly trust Chad's insights for reviews, I always have. I am still surprised, he even noticed EE on this release but still gave it 5 paws. Like I said, it's about the only title I've noticed any significant EE. Wouldn't that even merit docking it a half of a point or even a whole point? I dunno, he used to be especially hard on EE, which is why I find this so surprising.

At least it's not just me though, since he found EE on it too!

Definite purchase!

me too :)

M.

Just got my copy and plan to watch it tonite!!! :)

I just finished watching it. Great movie. It looks like the same digital master as the DVD so it's not perfect. PQ is very good, but I'm sure some will complain, even though you can't find a better source.

larry

I just finished watching it. Great movie. It looks like the same digital master as the DVD so it's not perfect. PQ is very good, but I'm sure some will complain, even though you can't find a better source.

larry

If the Japanese HD-DVD looks superior, would it be considered to be pulled from a better source? As much as I would like to get the BR version, PQ is important, so I will not be purchasing this movie until I get a confirmation about the comparison.

I truly trust Chad's insights for reviews, I always have. I am still surprised, he even noticed EE on this release but still gave it 5 paws. Like I said, it's about the only title I've noticed any significant EE. Wouldn't that even merit docking it a half of a point or even a whole point? I dunno, he used to be especially hard on EE, which is why I find this so surprising.

At least it's not just me though, since he found EE on it too!

Thanks for the kind words. If anyone thought this disc deserving of a 4.5 for video, I honestly wouldn't argue with them for a second. I didn't find EE to be much of a burden, unlike the DVD, where it was being compounded by ringing related to the necessary scaling of the high definition master to the lower resolution. But, we're only deinterlacing the video in our system. Scaling, even good quality scaling, will often add ringing, which can make the EE on this disc look worse than it actually is at 720p. Of course many consumer displays will also add some enhancement of thier own that could make the ringing in this disc look worse too.

I use The Transporter as reference for the worse case of EE I've seen in high definition. EE on that BD was both distracting and comparable to DVD in boldness. Usually when I see EE on a BD or HD disc, with the aggravation of scaling removed that made it really stand out more on DVD, I find I have to consciously look for it to notice. That was about the same here. Usually it was only just enough to notice if actually critiquing the video and most of the time, it was hard to find even there. If not for the severity of ringing on the DVD, I might not have even thought to look that closely.

I suspect enhancement may have been added during telecine. If so, that would mean the film would have to be remastered to get rid of it. And, honestly, as amazing as the video looks as is, in this case I can't blame Disney for not wanting to allocate the extra expense, which would have most likely resulted in postponing the title for potentially years, waiting on market penetration to justify the expense. Trying to weigh the impact of EE on this disc, I really just didn't feel like I could have appreciated the film significantly more, even if it were gone. Detail, depth, and overall fidelity look as if Reign were mastered just yesterday, rather than five years ago. In fact it looks better than many films I've seen on HD/BD that just came out last year and are possibly more technically artifact free.

I haven't seen the HD DVD to compare. I have no idea if the same elements may have been used. I can say that when I've compared foreign discs on DVD to the domestic release, even when the foreign release improved in specific areas over the domestic DVD, it often showed overall less refinement in mastering practices. There are exceptions though, like the Japanese superbit release of The Messenger. I'd be amazed if the HD DVD can compare to this BDs PCM track in sound though. Even as PCM goes, this is one of the most powerful and overwhelming sonic experiences I've heard.

The MST3K guys did a rifftrax of this one too, I'm renting it just for that heh.

Highdefdigest.com just posted their review of ROF and Peter mentions he found no edge enhancement. Either way, the general consensus seems to be that it's a fantastic looking disc. I'm surprised he didnt rate the audio higher considering it's prob in the top 3 sounding discs on the format.

Yeah a 4 for audio seems insane to me... this is the best sounding disc yet (IMHO).

If the Japanese HD-DVD looks superior, would it be considered to be pulled from a better source? As much as I would like to get the BR version, PQ is important, so I will not be purchasing this movie until I get a confirmation about the comparison.
I have no idea. I wouldn't know till I saw it and at this point I have no intention of forking out the extra $$$ just to see. :) The BD looks fine. The HD-DVD is MPEG2? I don't remember.

larry

I don't believe this is the same stream as the japanese HD DVD. It does stay below 28Mbps for most of the movie, but you can find a few spots where the bitrates go susbtantially higher than 30. At around 1:20:15 where the chopper flies over water, there is a small instance where the bitrate was above 40. This stream would have stuttered on a HD-A1.

I think the PQ looks incredible. I don't know about EE, my display is only 50" and I can't seem to see this unlike people who have 100" projection seems to be able to.

As for the pictures. Remember it is about a world taken over by dragons that burn everything to create ash which they feed on. There is only ash and dirt everywhere, not even trees exist. No eye candy, granted, but the post-apocalyptic London looked very real even if it does look drab and dirty.

Just got around to watching my copy tonight...and I would rate the P/Q 4-4.5...and the PCM audio a solid 5.
Good buy for 23.00 I would say.

I also just watched this today from netflix. Very good PQ overall but there were some parts that had a lot of graininess in the sky. But overall, very good PQ. I'd give it a 4

It have a nice picture.. there's EE, not a lot.. but a little, easy to spot in high contrast scene, i too give it a 4.. the grainyness doesn't bother me as much as EE..