View Full Version : What happened to the Tonight Shows quality?


Teisco
02-14-07, 10:15 AM
When I first set up my hdtv cable box last year at this time the Tonight Show was sharp and clear and looked great but as the months rolled on it lost that look and now today it looks almost sd.

I thought it might be the station here but Connan looks great so something else is wrong.

Chris89Stang
02-14-07, 10:50 AM
It looks great here on Comcast in Michigan.

jwebb1970
02-14-07, 11:21 AM
I always felt the quality of The Tonight Show went south when NBC gave it to the unfunny Leno instead of genius Dave.



....oh....you mean PICTURE quality!!! :D

Couldn't tell ya....I watch Letterman, and it's PQ is just fine. Conan also looks very nice in HD @ 12:35.

On the very few times I've tuned in to Leno, the HD has always looked good, though.

Teisco
02-14-07, 11:26 AM
You mean the genius Dave of yesterday or that old guy forcing fun at CBS?

DB2
02-14-07, 12:07 PM
You mean the genius Dave of yesterday or that old guy forcing fun at CBS?

Lets turn this into another Letterman bashing thread, those are always interesting :rolleyes:

Lodef
02-15-07, 09:12 AM
You mean the genius Dave of yesterday or that old guy forcing fun at CBS?

I totally agree, he is almost painful to watch now.

bfdtv
02-15-07, 09:55 AM
When I first set up my hdtv cable box last year at this time the Tonight Show was sharp and clear and looked great but as the months rolled on it lost that look and now today it looks almost sd.

I thought it might be the station here but Connan looks great so something else is wrong.The fault is either your station or your cable provider, because the PQ on The Tonight Show is as good as ever. Compare the PQ from your OTA feed, and if that looks good, then the fault is with your cable provider. If the fault is with the OTA feed, then call the broadcaster's engineering department to complain.

Teisco
02-15-07, 12:14 PM
I find it difficult to believe it is my cable or station because Connan comes on right after Leno and it looks great and that is on the same station, same signal.

S. Hiller
02-15-07, 05:10 PM
The 11:30PM broadcast slot is apparently not as conducive to good humor. The comedians just don't feel the audience is that smart, so they have to explain or belabor punch lines. And they don't aim too high to begin with...

Dave at 12:30 and Leno doing his full stand up routine elsewhere, are or were actually pretty funny...

paule123
02-15-07, 11:49 PM
When I first set up my hdtv cable box last year at this time the Tonight Show was sharp and clear and looked great but as the months rolled on it lost that look and now today it looks almost sd.

I thought it might be the station here but Connan looks great so something else is wrong.
There's definitely something wrong with Leno tonight (Thursday 2/15/07) - it looks like 480p widescreen. Definitely not full res 1080i quality. Watching the Jaywalking All-Star segment right now. The HD bug is in the lower left corner.

WKYC-DT Cleveland via WOW cable on a 50" 1080p plasma.

igreg
02-15-07, 11:58 PM
Threads in the past have stated that The Tonight Show uses a filter while Letterman and Conan do not. Could explain why it doesn't look quite as sharp, but doesn't explain any perceived loss in image quality.

TVOD
02-16-07, 12:03 AM
Leno also requires an additional backhaul path from LA to NY. Letterman and Conan do not.

paule123
02-16-07, 12:07 AM
Jim Carrey's tie pattern has no detail in it, nor does Leno's American flag lapel pin. When they came back from commercial, Leno was very blurry looking for a few seconds.

BPM_33
02-16-07, 06:32 PM
The issue is that Leno isn't as sharp as it was in the past.

It was really noticeable a few weeks back when Meredith Vieira was a guest. Everytime they would switch to closeup it would blur a bit hiding facial details.

Glad Letterman doesn't do that.

Rammitinski
02-17-07, 04:14 AM
It was really noticeable a few weeks back when Meredith Vieira was a guest. Everytime they would switch to closeup it would blur a bit hiding facial details.Hell, I would think one would be grateful for that :).

Rammitinski
02-17-07, 04:19 AM
The 11:30PM broadcast slot is apparently not as conducive to good humor. The comedians just don't feel the audience is that smart, so they have to explain or belabor punch lines. And they don't aim too high to begin with...

Dave at 12:30 and Leno doing his full stand up routine elsewhere, are or were actually pretty funny...At least Dave and Jay can (usually) go through a whole show without mentioning the word "penis" at least once (usually just for "shock value", and not necessarily in the context of a joke), unlike that other, sophmoric, juvenile guy :rolleyes: ;).

hobbs47
02-24-07, 07:27 PM
When did Leno first start airing in HD?I've searched and can't find the info.
Thanks.

hobbs47
02-24-07, 07:29 PM
never mind.

On April 26, 1999, the show began broadcasting in 1080i HDTV, becoming the first American nightly talk show to be shot in high definition. The show is shot in 16:9 aspect ratio with a 4:3 center-cut for standard definition television sets

igreg
02-25-07, 01:55 AM
The issue is that Leno isn't as sharp as it was in the past.

It was really noticeable a few weeks back when Meredith Vieira was a guest. Everytime they would switch to closeup it would blur a bit hiding facial details.

Glad Letterman doesn't do that.

I noticed that also. The same thing happened with guest Helen Mirren. The lack of detail occurred on close-up shots which were shot at an angle different than the main camera.

kucharsk
02-25-07, 08:13 AM
never mind.

On April 26, 1999, the show began broadcasting in 1080i HDTV, becoming the first American nightly talk show to be shot in high definition. The show is shot in 16:9 aspect ratio with a 4:3 center-cut for standard definition television setsAlas, if you had seen The Tonight Show back then, you'd be amazed at how much better it looked then than it does today.

If you are watching on an NBC-owned station, odds are one factor is the bandwidth given to the NBC subchannel "Weather Plus." :(

dan_o_00
02-26-07, 11:39 PM
I don't know if anyone of you are getting this, but mine is screwed up tonight. It's like the color of his skin is lagging. So when he moves his hands the color of it lags behind and his hands are gray until he stops moving them. It's really weird. And now that I'm typing this, it seems to have been fixed.

emg7777
02-26-07, 11:43 PM
glad ya said something i even rebooted my dish netowrk box now its in 4/3

Jason Pastore
02-26-07, 11:44 PM
Noticed that as well, i'm watching it on my DVR so I'm not sure If mine has been fixed yet. I'm watching it via Comcast Cable.

dan_o_00
02-26-07, 11:49 PM
It seemed to have been fixed after they showed that little 4:3 segment.

wonderwoman77
02-26-07, 11:52 PM
I noticed that here as well.I thought maybe it was the local station WDTN which I get OTA,so I switched to WLWT out of Cincy and same thing.Must be a goof by NBC,but now it is ok.Anyhow,Off to explore the other channels here.Maybe watch the Beverly Hillbillies.