Just checked Amazon, and the Digital Video Essentials - HD DVD pre-order date is pushed back till March, 27th??

What the heck is going on with this, does anybody know?? I'd love to get my XA1 calibrated before the format war ends. :o

Mike

Pretty much all of HDScape's discs (with 2 exceptions) have been pushed back. They are having difficulties.
J

Vapour Ware.....

That's it. If they push the release back yet again I'm canceling the order and waiting for Avia HD DVD. I'm tired of being jerked around by these guys. These perpetual phony release dates constitute borderline consumer fraud.

Releasing a known defective disc, would be "fraud".

Toshiba does it with their players, is that fraud?

Mike

Toshiba does it with their players, is that fraud?

Mike

LOL!! VERY funny..........and sooooooooooo true.

Toshiba does it with their players, is that fraud?

Mike

:D

DVE is going to use the most advanced HDi features to date, so I'm guessing that the checking of those features is causing some delays. You can't fault them for delaying a title to make sure it's as good as possible, especially when Fox and Sony are delaying Blu-Ray titles that have no features on them at all. At least DVE is going to have some pretty advanced features once it is released.

Hey ...just be happy the HD DVD News section on HDD finally got an update:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/DVD_International/Disc_Announcements/Digital_Video_Essentials_Delayed..._Again/484

Screw Kane. Just cancelled my order for this non existent disk. If he can't get it right after all the postponements, I doubt he'll ever get it right. Don't really need it and now don't ever want it. Plus, since he isn't releasing on BD (my preferred and the best format), I've now really lost interest in buying it for a format that will dead by summer.

**** DVE, Avia is the ticket ;)

-Gary

Screw Kane. Just cancelled my order for this non existent disk. If he can't get it right after all the postponements, I doubt he'll ever get it right. Don't really need it and now don't ever want it. Plus, since he isn't releasing on BD (my preferred and the best format), I've now really lost interest in buying it for a format that will dead by summer.

Thank you, now go away. You stepped over the line with your last two sentences.

**** DVE, Avia is the ticket ;)

-Gary

Gary-

Where is that disk to be found?

Thanks,

Mike

BTW, **** 'em both! :D

What are the benefits of using the HD-DVD version over the standard definition version of AVIA?

Gary-

Where is that disk to be found?

Thanks,

Mike

BTW, **** 'em both! :D

well thats the only issue :D , Avia is supposed to be coming soon, all this DVE business is just a big joke, I am tired of the delays, this is going to hurt them bad IMHO, especially if Avia makes it out

I have always preffered Avia to DVE anyway though, Guy Kuo is Da' Bomb ;)

-Gary

I'm with Gary on this one. If they delay again I will cancel my pre order and wait for AVIA... Another false release date! :mad: Fool me once shame on me fool me twice... and so on and so on...

I've had my name in the hat for DVE, but am interested in Avia.

Is there a reported price for Avia, and is it going to be a combo disc?

DVE on HD DVD? Hah! I've been waiting forever.

I've had my name in the hat for DVE, but am interested in Avia.

Is there a reported price for Avia, and is it going to be a combo disc?
There's at least 3 versions coming out - SD, HD-DVD, and BD. Don't know about SD PAL.

larry

I've mentioned this already but the interactive use aspects of the HDDVD of DVE is what has vexed them. I've heard that there will be a way to pull up a tutorial of Joe explaining various patterns how they are used and what one should be looking for during calibration. This should be one of the best real world uses of the formats capability and worth waiting for IMO. Just like you guys I'd like to have had it yesterday but............

Art

I've mentioned this already but the interactive use aspects of the HDDVD of DVE is what has vexed them. I've heard that there will be a way to pull up a tutorial of Joe explaining various patterns how they are used and what one should be looking for during calibration. This should be one of the best real world uses of the formats capability and worth waiting for IMO. Just like you guys I'd like to have had it yesterday but............

Art

Art, thats reassuring to hear. I was beginning to wonder if the problem was that neither format could be properly calibrated and the HD test patterns showed that.

The tutorials sound like a wonderful idea! The old version always left me wondering if I left out an important step in the process to get the absolute best result.

I've mentioned this already but the interactive use aspects of the HDDVD of DVE is what has vexed them. I've heard that there will be a way to pull up a tutorial of Joe explaining various patterns how they are used and what one should be looking for during calibration. This should be one of the best real world uses of the formats capability and worth waiting for IMO. Just like you guys I'd like to have had it yesterday but............

Art

Art-

That is good to hear! Just wish it was available, now.:(

Mike

Screw Kane. Just cancelled my order for this non existent disk. If he can't get it right after all the postponements, I doubt he'll ever get it right. Don't really need it and now don't ever want it. Plus, since he isn't releasing on BD (my preferred and the best format), I've now really lost interest in buying it for a format that will dead by summer.

What a childish statement! If you can't stay on topic then don't post!

Don't feed him

I don't mind, I just sent my pj in for repair and won't be seeing it for weeks anyways. :D

No major loss, as you will most likely not receive any printed instructions on how to use it, if the D-Theater versions are any hint. Very sad IMHO.

Wow just takes time to get things correct I have 2 versions of the SD discs and will wait for the HD disc to arrive.

Nate

I've mentioned this already but the interactive use aspects of the HDDVD of DVE is what has vexed them. I've heard that there will be a way to pull up a tutorial of Joe explaining various patterns how they are used and what one should be looking for during calibration. This should be one of the best real world uses of the formats capability and worth waiting for IMO. Just like you guys I'd like to have had it yesterday but............

Art

you seem to know something.. could this be one disk you saw when the HDDVD crew paid you a visit? even in its early stages it would make sense that they might use it to get the most out of your system for the presentation...

you seem to know something.. could this be one disk you saw when the HDDVD crew paid you a visit? even in its early stages it would make sense that they might use it to get the most out of your system for the presentation...

No, it was not among the HDDVD promotion group get together titles.Oh ,by the way , I guess that's better than saying I know nothing but not much. ;) :D

Art