View Full Version : the best calibration disc for a sammy 5087 DLP ???


GR1MM
02-22-07, 05:28 PM
I have a Samsung HLS-5087 DLP set and I want to calibrate it myself.What is the best calibration DVD to use???The picture looks good the way I set it,but I think I can make it better. THANKS

bfdtv
02-22-07, 07:18 PM
Pick up (or rent) a copy of AVIA.

AKA BUD
02-23-07, 12:00 AM
Agreed....If you do rent one, make sure it has the red/green and blue transparencies. You'll need them.

BillP
02-23-07, 11:02 AM
Many prefer DVE, although it's a little more difficult to use/navigate. Renting either is generally missing the color filters, unfortunately.

The Squeaky Whee
02-23-07, 11:26 AM
Anyone know if color filters can be purchased separately at a local store? I have access to the disc but no filters. DVE will send replacement filters but they are almost as much as the entire disc and I'd have to wait a few weeks.

I'm wondering if radio shack or some other electronics store might sell something that would work.

thanks.

AKA BUD
02-23-07, 03:47 PM
Anyone know if color filters can be purchased separately at a local store? I have access to the disc but no filters. DVE will send replacement filters but they are almost as much as the entire disc and I'd have to wait a few weeks.

I'm wondering if radio shack or some other electronics store might sell something that would work.

thanks.

Just a stab in the dark here....I'm wondering if a color file folder (the kind you use to make your own folder with the white plastic rib) in red/green/blue would work. They should be available at any office supply store such as OfficeMax/OfficeDepot. Might be worth a look....then again I could be all wet with this idea. :D

G. Christopher
02-23-07, 08:20 PM
Any type of coloured transparency will work..just make sure it is red, green, and blue. Pick up at any Staples/Business Depot or any supply store.

htwaits
02-23-07, 11:40 PM
Which red, green or blue filter would you guys recommend? For the calibration disks to work you need the right color filters.

What's the big deal about buying your own copy?

The Avia disk was created for analog CRT sets. The DVE (Digital Video Essentials) disk was created with digital TV in mind. The difficult part of the DVE disk is navigating. That problem can be helped using Eliab's tutorial which is linked at the bottom of my post.

G. Christopher
02-24-07, 09:44 AM
Which red, green or blue filter would you guys recommend? For the calibration disks to work you need the right color filters.

All you need is the standard red, green, and, blue colours...not shades of them but whatever is considered the standard red, greeen, and blue...As an example, remember those old 3-D glasses we could get to watch the movies one lens was red and one was blue....those are the same type of filters that you can use..now you just need green.

htwaits
02-24-07, 10:20 AM
All you need is the standard red, green, and, blue colours...not shades of them but whatever is considered the standard red, greeen, and blue...As an example, remember those old 3-D glasses we could get to watch the movies one lens was red and one was blue....those are the same type of filters that you can use..now you just need green.Fine. :)

I don't know the technical definition of the "standard red, green and blue" filters that come with the calibration disks. If you know how to specify "standard" then let us know.

DavidHir
02-24-07, 11:43 AM
You guys do realize the filters are not completely accurate - they usually give too much color push by 2-3 clicks. You need to NOT use the filters and just color decode one particular color at a time (turning off the other two at the same time). Of course, this may require you to enter the service menu which I only recomend if you completely know what you are doing.

htwaits
02-24-07, 02:58 PM
You guys do realize the filters are not completely accurate - they usually give too much color push by 2-3 clicks. You need to NOT use the filters and just color decode one particular color at a time (turning off the other two at the same time). Of course, this may require you to enter the service menu which I only recomend if you completely know what you are doing.It sounds like what a professional calibrator would do. The calibration disks don't come anywhere near those standards, and are not intended for use with the SM. Of course if someone has that skill and equipment then they can fire away. ;)

G. Christopher
02-24-07, 03:45 PM
Fine. :)

I don't know the technical definition of the "standard red, green and blue" filters that come with the calibration disks. If you know how to specify "standard" then let us know.


I just meant that one should look for red, green, and blue transparencies that are "red," "green," and "blue." Not a dark or light red/blue/green...whatever is considered "neutral" red, green and blue. Yes, using the calibration disks and the tests that uses the filter may push the red..if it does..then just turn down the "colour" setting..works for me.

htwaits
02-24-07, 03:54 PM
I just meant that one should look for red, green, and blue transparencies that are "red," "green," and "blue." Not a dark or light red/blue/green...whatever is considered "neutral" red, green and blue. Yes, using the calibration disks and the tests that uses the filter may push the red..if it does..then just turn down the "colour" setting..works for me.If it works for you that's fine with me. :)

kcwilli2
02-24-07, 05:21 PM
Check out Sound & Vision magazine web site they have a calibration disc.

DavidHir
02-28-07, 06:39 PM
It sounds like what a professional calibrator would do. The calibration disks don't come anywhere near those standards, and are not intended for use with the SM. Of course if someone has that skill and equipment then they can fire away. ;)

I do it and I'm not a professional calibrator - you don't need any special equipment since you are calibrating the to the source (i.e., DVD player to display). It's really just understanding your service menu and specific values as this is crucial. Also, DVE is very accurate with color decoding and grayscale. (Avia does have grayscale issues.) Based on my players and display, you just need to back off 2-3 clicks from what appears accurate through the filter for each color.

Tulpa
02-28-07, 06:40 PM
I got a copy of DVE off Half.com for cheap. Had the filters, too.

Might be worth looking into.

htwaits
02-28-07, 08:33 PM
I do it and I'm not a professional calibrator - As a wise person once wrote:

"If it works for you that's fine with me. :) "

Here is a link you might be interested in from the Calibration forum.

Background Guide to Setting Source Options (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4969789#post4969789)