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Cant get any better than that.
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if this comes out to be pre-rendered shots i'm going to cry
cause it looks so beautiful =)
FiveMillionWays 02-25-07, 01:35 AM Finally looks like a game I would want to play!
me too, if it turns out to be pre-rendered I'll kill myself.
DaGamePimp 02-25-07, 02:00 AM It's probably real time rendering but it is CGI , no actual gameplay there .
--- Jason
Damn that looks NICE I will be getting a PS3 just for this game right here.
user7800 02-25-07, 02:05 AM It's probably real time rendering but it is CGI , no actual gameplay there .
--- Jason
Thats the real deal, not CGI.
Tenkaipalm 02-25-07, 03:44 AM I wonder what the framerate is at?
btw is 30fps "playable" on PS3? On pc 30fps in action game looks horrid.
rcavictor1956 02-25-07, 10:14 AM Holy Mother of God!!! :eek: :cool:
TwinTurboJosh 02-25-07, 10:28 AM btw is 30fps "playable" on PS3? On pc 30fps in action game looks horrid.
Uhh, Resistance is locked at 30fps, and Gears of War for 360 spends most of its time considerably below 30fps. If Lair can actually sustain 30fps, it will be pretty incredible. But I'd like to see how Lair at 720p with 4x FSAA would look compared to 1080p with no AA.
Scotty L 02-25-07, 10:37 AM I have issues believing that first screenie is possible on the PS3 @ 1080p w/ a playable framerate but I have been wrong before. Looks like AA & AF is turned on too
HorrorScope 02-25-07, 10:40 AM It's probably real time rendering but it is CGI , no actual gameplay there .
--- Jason
I'm with ya there. The quality isn't high enough for pure CGI and there seems to be no screenshot of the actual view the player will have when they are actually playing. Looks pretty darn nice though!
Uhh, Resistance is locked at 30fps, and Gears of War for 360 spends most of its time considerably below 30fps.No.
bassmonkeee 02-25-07, 11:01 AM I bet Lair is going to make me glad I own a subwoofer. :D
vancouver 02-25-07, 11:08 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P50s98F7Nm8
doesnt show much detail, but some good feel for game play
Gnafu the Great 02-25-07, 11:21 AM Wow. Compiling those screenshots with that gameplay footage in my mind makes me happy and warm inside. Umm, PS3, please? I'll give you a dollar.
So is Lair supposed to be essentially "Joust 3D"?
Will it be playable against online combatanants?
harv405 02-25-07, 12:06 PM Are you on the dragon all the time or can you get off and melee soldiers?
IeraseU 02-25-07, 12:21 PM Looks good, I hope the gameplay is up to par with the visuals.
vilmer_ 02-25-07, 01:08 PM Oh my goodness!! Stunning.
TwinTurboJosh 02-25-07, 02:09 PM No.
Mind telling me what I'm wrong about? Because I have both titles, and Resistance has a rock-steady framerate no matter what, and Gears chugs quite a bit throughout the game.
Supermans 02-25-07, 02:18 PM This looks amazing. Eragon people should have licensed Factor 5 for a game based on their movie when they had a chance.
michael000 02-25-07, 02:24 PM Game looks great, i only pray the frame issues are hammered out. Hell i'd be happy with 720p @ a locked 30fps. Better that than the almost unplayable framerate issues that showed up in certain battles conditions that was shown at TGS and CES.
Are you on the dragon all the time or can you get off and melee soldiers?
You get off the dragon at times, melee on foot though won't be very relevant though (from the dev interviewi read).
:eek: :eek: :eek: WOW :eek: :eek: :eek:
Another game I am soooo looking forward to!
Mind telling me what I'm wrong about? Because I have both titles, and Resistance has a rock-steady framerate no matter what, and Gears chugs quite a bit throughout the game.
I agree with TwinTurboJosh, Gears chugged quite often and had troubles with textures having delayed fill in rates. Not to mention that, yes Gears looks good, but it is all in very closed in cramped spaces most of the time. IN a game like that you can make any game look good. Look at the draw distance in this game with its wide open spaces. It looks amazing.
JD
GW-SMOkeY 02-25-07, 02:52 PM Both flight and ground, those are in game - and will run in 1080p from the same team who brought you the Rogue Squadron games on GC.
GO to IGN, and watch the half an hour interview with the Designer.
Mind telling me what I'm wrong about? Because I have both titles, and Resistance has a rock-steady framerate no matter what, and Gears chugs quite a bit throughout the game.Specifically where you say Gears of War for 360 spends most of its time considerably below 30fps. It does neither.
I agree with TwinTurboJosh, Gears chugged quite often and had troubles with textures having delayed fill in rates.Gears chugs during the real-time cut scenes, I admit that freely. And the LOD pop-in is certainly noticeable. But it spends the majority of its time at 30fps. It does not, as was erroneously stated, spend most of its time below (or even much of its time below) 30fps. Whether you agree with TTJ or not, the statement was not accurate, and I can call up a whole slew of reviews that agree with me.
Not to mention that, yes Gears looks good, but it is all in very closed in cramped spaces most of the time.Agreed, there are very few times when you get great draw distance like in the Lair screenies. Those are pretty sweet.
MaliciousBraham 02-25-07, 04:03 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P50s98F7Nm8
doesnt show much detail, but some good feel for game play
*That* is shweeeeet.
pestario 02-25-07, 04:12 PM seriously this is the first reason I bought a PS3. Each time screenshots come out it looks better & better.
This is the game that sold me on the PS3 (for gaming) as well. Can't friggin wait. :D
I'm not a big gamer, but got the PS3 for Blu-Ray. A nice little effect though is that I've been playing Motorstorm demo for about 15 minutes a day at night just to unwind (and I wound up preordering the game b/s it's so much fun).
Then I saw this Lair game preview on the PS3 store. It looks cool too. I just find it odd that I find myself excited about games now too. :D
Yesterday at the mall I stopped in and asked about date for Lair and Heavenly Sword. They're currently scheduled for May 7 and June 1 respectively.
I have this feeling that MotorStorm, Lair, and Heavenly Sword will sell many PS3s in the coming months...
GUys how fun can this game be? You fly on some dragon and kill a bunch of soldiers and other dragon goons... woooopiiiiiiii Compared to God of War this game is going to be boring in 2 hours. Unless there is more to it then just flying or walking on your dragon and killing things.
Mongoos150 02-26-07, 05:59 PM Looks allright, definitely not as impressive as FF13 or other titles I've seen previewed...
GUys how fun can this game be? You fly on some dragon and kill a bunch of soldiers and other dragon goons... woooopiiiiiiii Compared to God of War this game is going to be boring in 2 hours. Unless there is more to it then just flying or walking on your dragon and killing things.
You had me at "You fly on some dragon..."
Mongoos150 02-26-07, 06:47 PM You had me at "You fly on some dragon..."
:D
TyrantII 02-26-07, 06:59 PM a game getting boring cause you go around and just kill things, hmmmmmmm.....
love the logic of some of those who are drawn here
go troll somewhere else xbot
I'm glad this will be 1080p because honestly I've been quite disappointed with the number of 720p games out there. Considering the PS3 is basically Nvidia 7800 and at minimum a 3.2 Ghz PPC cpu, really maxing out at 1 million pixels is pretty shoddy IMO. Most PC's with similar specs can run FPS games at 1080p and they've got all the OS overhead to deal with, and honestly the best ones don't look much worse than the Lair shots at all, again IMO... I guess it's just a matter of learning how to utilize the hardware... Good to see progress though, for sure.
Yung Impression 02-26-07, 08:46 PM Lair is a game im definately gettin, plus its takes full control of the motion sensor of the sixaxis.
orogogus 02-26-07, 09:45 PM Pretty, but I have a hard time believing those are game-play shots taken at real time. Kinda like the H3 trailer and screenies I've seen.
I see no aliasing, and I have a hard time believing that 1080p at 30+ frames with AA and what looks like AF on is possible with the PS3 hardware (or 360 for that matter).
I'll be happy to be wrong though, as I've always thought Lair is the game that might get me to buy a PS3... eventually. :p
Tripjammer 02-27-07, 10:05 AM Pretty, but I have a hard time believing those are game-play shots taken at real time. Kinda like the H3 trailer and screenies I've seen.
I see no aliasing, and I have a hard time believing that 1080p at 30+ frames with AA and what looks like AF on is possible with the PS3 hardware (or 360 for that matter).
I'll be happy to be wrong though, as I've always thought Lair is the game that might get me to buy a PS3... eventually. :p
Isominac was saying if they had time there were going to have Resistance Fall of man be 1080p at 30 FPS...but they ran out of time and had to lock it at 720p at 30 fps...We all know this was a good move because the game is so smooth...
a game getting boring cause you go around and just kill things, hmmmmmmm.....
love the logic of some of those who are drawn here
go troll somewhere else xbot
I got a PS3, and i returned the CrapBox 360 a while back. I'm not a fanboy of any system, i say it how i see it.
JackBau3r 02-27-07, 12:57 PM It doesn't matter what system you own. You've clearly trolled the PS3 a number of times, and you will be reported to the mods. Have a nice day.
Teamhood 02-27-07, 01:56 PM this is the only reason I bought a PS3... sure hope it was worth it :) (well, i guess the blu-ray side is also a plus)
Slacker George 04-12-07, 03:01 PM This isn't worthy of it's own thread yet but keep an eye on IGN today for some new Lair info and screens. Supposedly this is from the IGN insider's message boards:
Ever wonder what the else is going on besides that blasted bridge?
We'll tell you (and show you) later today.
chartwel 04-12-07, 03:29 PM This isn't worthy of it's own thread yet but keep an eye on IGN today for some new Lair info and screens. Supposedly this is from the IGN insider's message boards:
im an insider. this was posted by the sony IGN editor on their forums. so yes, expect to see some more details later today.
ChrisFB 04-12-07, 03:47 PM Other than GTA this is the coolest game coming IMO. That said, someday I'd like to see what the actual game looks like. I care only slightly more about cut scenes than I do about shrink wrap. By far the most irritating thing to come out of the last decade+ in gaming, total reliance on marketing the cut scene.
GW-SMOkeY 04-12-07, 05:34 PM It's probably real time rendering but it is CGI , no actual gameplay there .
--- Jason
nope!
Slacker George 04-12-07, 06:08 PM Other than GTA this is the coolest game coming IMO. That said, someday I'd like to see what the actual game looks like. There have been quite a few videos of actual gameplay, as far back as the Tokyo Game Show last year.
This is a good one, even if it's pretty old by now.
Lair - TGS 06 Dragon Raid Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=13309&type=mov&pl=game)
Supermans 04-12-07, 07:04 PM GUys how fun can this game be? You fly on some dragon and kill a bunch of soldiers and other dragon goons... woooopiiiiiiii Compared to God of War this game is going to be boring in 2 hours. Unless there is more to it then just flying or walking on your dragon and killing things.
I take it you don't like the Rogue Squadron series then on the Gamecube or have never played it...
PS..It's the same developers...And yes those games are awesome..
Kid Red 04-12-07, 07:08 PM Thats the real deal, not CGI.
Then where are the screen displays? Health, direction, etc? Doesn't seem like game play.
When is this being released? I can't wait till we get some decent games!!
Supermans 04-12-07, 07:11 PM There have been quite a few videos of actual gameplay, as far back as the Tokyo Game Show last year.
This is a good one, even if it's pretty old by now.
Lair - TGS 06 Dragon Raid Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=13309&type=mov&pl=game)
If the game looks anything like this gameplay video, I will be very happy.. The way the Rogue Squadron series worked is you try to complete each level or map within a certain time in order to get medals. There is always a storyline as well and the Factor 5 team did an excellent job with the gamecube so I can only imagine how great this game will look...
Supermans 04-12-07, 07:12 PM Then where are the screen displays? Health, direction, etc? Doesn't seem like game play.
When is this being released? I can't wait till we get some decent games!!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=13309&type=mov&pl=game
play this link..for gameplay footage..
Slacker George 04-12-07, 07:35 PM im an insider. this was posted by the sony IGN editor on their forums. so yes, expect to see some more details later today.Nothing yet. Any idea if this something for insiders only? Thanks.
ChrisFB 04-12-07, 08:25 PM There have been quite a few videos of actual gameplay, as far back as the Tokyo Game Show last year.
This is a good one, even if it's pretty old by now.
Lair - TGS 06 Dragon Raid Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=13309&type=mov&pl=game)
That's cool. Kind of like Panzer Dragoon on the Saturn (only one I ever played) but a whole lot more expanded. I dig it.
TwinTurboJosh 04-13-07, 01:09 PM There are new videos up at www.gametrailers.com
palofex 04-13-07, 01:15 PM Check out this exclusive footage on gametrailers.com (download/watch the HD version) The game really does look that good.
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2657
Edit: TwinTurboJosh beat me to it by seconds!
it looks great.
a freaking dragon.... nuff reason to buy.
Stangs55 04-13-07, 06:10 PM Holy crap! That footage looks awesome :) :) :) Finally, a game to be pumped about!
vilmer_ 04-13-07, 06:25 PM Can't wait!! Looks awesome.
ppshooky 04-13-07, 06:41 PM I wasn't planning on buying this game, because I figured I'd get bored with it after awhile and never finish it.
But, I have to admit, the game play looks pretty awesome. Is there going to be downloadable content?
Any idea when these new vids were taken? I'm hoping that the graphics are going to get touched up a bit. It seemed pretty pixelated from the HD videos game trailers has.
joe_six_pack 04-13-07, 06:53 PM I wasn't planning on buying this game, because I figured I'd get bored with it after awhile and never finish it.
But, I have to admit, the game play looks pretty awesome. Is there going to be downloadable content?
Any idea when these new vids were taken? I'm hoping that the graphics are going to get touched up a bit. It seemed pretty pixelated from the HD videos game trailers has.
Most screenshot pics & vids I've seen of games are pixelated. Usually it doesn't look that way in the games.
If you look at IGN's screenshots of games, a lot of them have HORRIBLE jaggies. I'm not sure why this is, but I think it's because theyre taking a xxx by xxx picture and blowing it up. For videos, I'm guessing they're downrezzed to make them into smaller download files. If you look at the LBP clip on the PSN, that thing was like 500mbs. Can you imagine if the gametrailers were 1/2 gig each?
ppshooky 04-13-07, 07:04 PM Most screenshot pics & vids I've seen of games are pixelated. Usually it doesn't look that way in the games.
If you look at IGN's screenshots of games, a lot of them have HORRIBLE jaggies. I'm not sure why this is, but I think it's because theyre taking a xxx by xxx picture and blowing it up. For videos, I'm guessing they're downrezzed to make them into smaller download files. If you look at the LBP clip on the PSN, that thing was like 500mbs. Can you imagine if the gametrailers were 1/2 gig each?
Most of the jaggies are a direct result of resizing images. Like in photoshop. If you resize an image down to 50%, 25%, 12.5%, etc. the image looks smooth.
But, if you resize to 66%, 33%, or force it to fit in a specified resolution (which I'm sure most of the game sites have a standardized image size), you'll get the jaggies.
I guess they don't want to crop out any of the image to make it fit in their image resolution standard.
I suppose I expected better video for a "HD", but the video is a .wma format. I also read on IGN that this version is a late alpha. So, that answers my question.
clevername 04-13-07, 07:25 PM there seems to be a recurring theme in every video I see of this game...
The aerial stuff looks great and like a ton of fun. The ground combat looks boring and annoying to me. Hopefully there's much more flying than running around swiping at myriad infantry dudes.
joe_six_pack 04-13-07, 07:52 PM I suppose we'll just have to see how good it is (or isn't). I'm not one to mindlessly support a console for the hell of it. If I wasn't using the ps3 as a blu-ray player, and if the "big 5" (lair, R&K, Killzone, warhawk, heavenly sword)disappoints, I would not hesitate to drop the ps3 like a rock. I've already done it for the wii (sold my used wii for $100 over msrp).
Anyways, I think the game looks good from what I've seen. I'm hoping what they're showing is limited in scope, and we'll see some good boss battles, etc.
TwinTurboJosh 04-13-07, 10:07 PM There are new developer walkthrough vids out. Absolutely incredible
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_lair_devwt_pt1_gt_h264.wmv
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_lair_devwt_pt2_gt_h264.wmv
Slacker George 04-13-07, 10:08 PM There are new developer walkthrough vids out. Absolutely incredible
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_lair_devwt_pt1_gt_h264.wmv
http://download.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_lair_devwt_pt2_gt_h264.wmvI was about to post the same thing. Wow. Just wow...
chartwel 04-13-07, 10:52 PM yeah, the walkthrough video gives you a much better idea of how the game looks right now. absolutely incredible.
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