Some one linked me to monsters website..

1200 bucks for a ****** 1 driver 200 watt subwoofer.. (i have not personally heard it tho)
Rated down to 20hz, i wonder how it would perform...

http://www.monsterthx.com/THX/productPage.asp?pin=2156

Wonder how this POS would do againts my SVS PB 12 Plus/2?


Edit...

Wrong link posted Above
Here is the subwoofer Link
http://www.monsterthx.com/THX/productPage.asp?pin=2173

Some one linked me to monsters website..

1200 bucks for a ****** 1 driver 200 watt subwoofer.. (i have not personally heard it tho)
Rated down to 20hz, i wonder how it would perform...

http://www.monsterthx.com/THX/productPage.asp?pin=2156

Wonder how this POS would do againts my SVS PB 12 Plus/2?

It's not even a dedicated sub, it's made to turn their smaller speakers into towers :D

Well to be fair it looks more like a bookshelf speaker stand/bass module more than a straight sub, so 200w might be enough. I'm sure it's "Internally wired with Monster Cable!" and the price has been adjusted accordingly though.

i meant to post the link to their subwoofer

http://www.monsterthx.com/THX/productPage.asp?pin=2173

which has a 200 watt spec as well as taht towering thing.

i meant to post the link to their subwoofer

http://www.monsterthx.com/THX/productPage.asp?pin=2173

which has a 200 watt spec as well as taht towering thing.

Come on now, it's round, don't you know that means it's great!!!!

Even though I own a 3600 power conditioner and does a fine job, I wouldn't buy another Monster product again because of their ridiculous pricing practices. Their marketing machine telling consumers that they're "high end" is the same thing ala Bose. I know consumers have a choice and can make their own decisions but pricing stuff way more than they're worth is crazy. Again, Monster can name any price they want but there are much better alternatives.
And now this sub.
With that money, you can build two killer 15" subs and have money left over! Or a commercial sub like SVS, Velodyne, HSU, etc and they will put the Monster to shame.

Who the hell reads E-gear magazine?

That's who gave it a top 40 product award, my gosh.

Who the hell reads E-gear magazine?

That's who gave it a top 40 product award, my gosh.

I wonder how much monster paid e-gear to put them into the top 40....

Curvilinear enclosure cancels standing waves for clear imaging and a deeper, more precise soundstage.
Translation: it's round. :rolleyes:


Tim

Its heavy and looks nice. It might not be too bad.

-Eli

Bashing something you havent even heard yet. Priceless. For what reason? I'm not pushing monster here, but the sub did get certified by THX, which is not exactly easy from my understanding. (bose cant claim the same) There are parameters that must be met to get the certification, so they must've done something right. I find it hard to believe that a thread would be started to bash things without even hearing them. I'm gonna try and find one of these things just to listen to it, so I have first hand experience with it, then I could come to some type of conclusion, just as the OP should do. Its OK to not like a certain brand for whatever reason, but to bash it w/o knowing a thing about how it really performs is just plain ridiculous, and begs to think of trolling.

P.S. SVS subs arent the top of the line either, as I'm sure your aware.

Come on what is this brand bashing... :rolleyes: The sub looks pretty good(I said looks...),built quality should be good too,it weighs 90lbs,I doubt its cardboard.

Sure it will not outperform SVS or HSU units of similar price,what did you expect?

But then JL Audio owners could do the same and start bashing all subs lesser than JL,there would be a world to bash. :p Wait I own many of these too... :o ;)

I give this simple advice,if you have not heard a set of speakers or sub,do not bash.Its cheap and low. If it was B0$e or another clone then at least the bashing if founded to some degree.At least my bashing is mild,when I do it. :D A top 40 e-gear product...WOW I will run to the nearest store.....well not this year.

And I love the smilies,takes the bash out of bashing.

i saw that sub at a real time sight and sound store, and i saw the price and i was shocked.it wasn't being demoed though so i cant really say anything about it.

FYI...

http://www.shop.com/op/~Monster_Power_THX_Subwoofer_200_Cherry-prod-29489016-38598016?sourceid=3

https://www.softwareplusonline.com/catalog/productDetail.aspx?productid=ywXyGkHB7PQ%3D

-Eli

that is actually a damn sexy sub.... though I would not touch it for 1200.... or even 800 dollars.

Hold on folks, it goes from 20Hz-350KHz (yes it says KHz on every spec) so I guess it goes from subsonic to about 4 octaves higher than the realm of human hearing. Whoever said its just a sub doesnt know jack, it is prolly the greatest full range speaker ever conceived by man or monster.

I'm sorry, but Monster does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

They sue entities that have the same name, including an organization that aids sick children, rip people off with their high priced snakeoil cables, and they pay any and everybody to "certify" their products.

They aren't a company I would ever give my money to again.

Dont knock it till u try it.

Dont knock it till u try it.

It's not the product per se. It's their business practice that losses my respect as rockemsockem pointed out.

What a company can't sell stuff for a profit? That's just bad business practices.

If you owned your own company, I'm sure that you would protect your investment.
Sure we can all agree that there are other choices, and better options for cables, but don't fault any company for trying to grow and make money.

If you don't like Monsters kind of Kool-Aid then don't drink it. Buy someone else's or start your own company.

Come on what is this brand bashing... :rolleyes: The sub looks pretty good(I said looks...),built quality should be good too,it weighs 90lbs,I doubt its cardboard.

Sure it will not outperform SVS or HSU units of similar price,what did you expect?

But then JL Audio owners could do the same and start bashing all subs lesser than JL,there would be a world to bash. :p Wait I own many of these too... :o ;)

I give this simple advice,if you have not heard a set of speakers or sub,do not bash.Its cheap and low. If it was B0$e or another clone then at least the bashing if founded to some degree.At least my bashing is mild,when I do it. :D A top 40 e-gear product...WOW I will run to the nearest store.....well not this year.

And I love the smilies,takes the bash out of bashing.
Doesn't that JL sub cost like $4000?

I'm sorry, but Monster does not deserve the benefit of the doubt.

They sue entities that have the same name, including an organization that aids sick children,.

By law you have to agressively defend a trademark, or it ceases to be a trademark.

Any lawyer would recommend that they defend their trademark!

Review from AudioVideoRevolution.com

http://www.avrev.com/equip/monster_thx_speaker/index.html

The powered subs started off slow and thick, but after breaking in, they became much more detailed. The Monster subwoofer’s level of detail never reached the level of my reference MartinLogan Descent, but then again, they are only 40 percent of the MartinLogan’s price. Once the subwoofers were broken in, I again adjusted their level and equalized them through the Velodyne processor, which allowed me to get a good blend with the rest of the Monster THX system. However, every once in a while, I was able to discern the difference in detail between the subwoofers and rest of the system.

Doesn't that JL sub cost like $4000?

No,$3200 and less. Budget by high end standrads.

I hate Monster as much as the rest of you but this sub is actually pretty good. I go into UE from time to time to listen to this sub and the rest of the Monster speaker line in their demo room. The center speaker could use some work(hissy) but everything else sounds great. They have 2 of these subs on either side of the room and they sound(feel) amazing. Overpriced? Sure. But so are most other speaker brands.

I hate Monster almost as much as the rest of you, however, I got a Monster All-In-One Home Theatre Connection Kit With Component Video, for about ~$20 plus a few dollars shipping. It includes 16 gauge speaker wire terminated with gold plated pins.

The Kit included the following speaker wires that are all terminated with gold plated pins: 2 X 20 ft. L & R. 10 foot Center. 2 X 35 foot surround wires. A 20 foot subwoofer cable. One 8 foot component cable. The speaker wires are color coded. The Kit includes several other things that I don't need.

I am using them with my Denon 5803A, and they work perfectly.

All the Best

Please remember the speaker wire is 16 gauge.

From what I understand THX is whoring themselves out to anyone willing to pay for said "certification".


It is a very nice looking sub if that's what you're in to. I'm sure Monster will sale a million of them to people that don't know any better especially if they make it into the B&M stores. How long have they been into the "high end" speaker business...this is news to me.

By law you have to agressively defend a trademark, or it ceases to be a trademark.

Any lawyer would recommend that they defend their trademark!

That's their story and they are sticking to it!

What a company can't sell stuff for a profit? That's just bad business practices.

If you owned your own company, I'm sure that you would protect your investment.
Sure we can all agree that there are other choices, and better options for cables, but don't fault any company for trying to grow and make money.

If you don't like Monsters kind of Kool-Aid then don't drink it. Buy someone else's or start your own company.

Ah yes, the full-out capitalist. Let companies do whatever they want in society only to be rewarded or failed based in the merits of their product, without concern for how they act. No thanks. How they end up with a product is important also. If they can't use a common name like Monster without bullying mom-and-pop outfits or non-profit organisations, then they shouldn't be using it at all.

Not trying to defend Monster here, but I would say that it doesnt matter that it is "only 200 watts" The box is big enough, that the woofer is allowed to operate naturally and there is not a need for boosting the low frequencies.

Many of the tiny subs you see that are 1000-2000 watts, need those extra watts to try and compenstate for the tiny box. They are trying to defy the laws of physics in other words. This sub is probably overpriced, and I do dispise Monster products as well as their business practices, but the power output is not the only factor to consider.

Theres no limit to their hype - the "Wired with monster cable" bit is especially funny. I'm sure that 1 foor long pair of wires inside the box has a big effect on SQ.

I can get this sub at a discounted price. Is this worth $300?

I can get this sub at a discounted price. Is this worth $300?

Have you tried to give it a listen locally? if you like it thats all that matters, the op shouldnt of posted this in the first place.

Theres no limit to their hype - the "Wired with monster cable" bit is especially funny. I'm sure that 1 foor long pair of wires inside the box has a big effect on SQ.

Woha there...

The Monstah wires have a MONSTER effect on SQ...the plecebo SQ that is.

Bass is more defined,cleaner,so defined each note is cut in stone! Any more definition and the definition of DEFINITION loses its...definition!!! :eek:

I recently heard the Monster Godfather 1500 subwoofer (actually there was two) in a 400 sg ft theater room with 10 foot ceilings and they were good.... pant flappin good. I love high end stuff and these were better than the velodyne that they also carry. and blow away the Sunfire. So monster can and did make a good product. I have no reason other than to tell the truth.

Joey

From what I understand THX is whoring themselves out to anyone willing to pay for said "certification".


It is a very nice looking sub if that's what you're in to. I'm sure Monster will sale a million of them to people that don't know any better especially if they make it into the B&M stores. How long have they been into the "high end" speaker business...this is news to me.

Would you care to elaborate?
I see it as Monster pays them to go through a certification process for their cables and they qualify or work on qualifying.
THX is providing a standard and it's being applied.

I am sure there is some dual marketing going on just like when Monster had their cables ISF certified.

What part is "whoring?" There may be, I am just not aware of it.

Bashing something you havent even heard yet. Priceless. For what reason? I'm not pushing monster here, but the sub did get certified by THX, which is not exactly easy from my understanding. (bose cant claim the same) There are parameters that must be met to get the certification, so they must've done something right. I find it hard to believe that a thread would be started to bash things without even hearing them. I'm gonna try and find one of these things just to listen to it, so I have first hand experience with it, then I could come to some type of conclusion, just as the OP should do. Its OK to not like a certain brand for whatever reason, but to bash it w/o knowing a thing about how it really performs is just plain ridiculous, and begs to think of trolling.

i would really like to see this thing reviewed. when i saw that it was thx approved, my first thought was, sh*t, now thx is selling out. i'd love to know if my initial hunch is justified or if this thing can really hold its own. i just can't see it hitting reference level @20Hz.

P.S. SVS subs arent the top of the line either, as I'm sure your aware.

According to Craigsub's rankings, the new SVS PB13 Ultra WAS their top tested sub, until being surpassed by the 435 lb dual 18" Elemental Designs A7-900.

Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2000 shipped ID): 116 points (63-53)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48) * see below
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 97 points (54-43)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Acculine A-sub ($289 ID/SI): 85 points (provisional, currently out of production) (40-45)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
Rocket Tyke: 60 points (If you care, PM me ... )

Pending subwoofers ...

AV123 BMF ... Not sure of date
AV123 MFW-15 ... Not sure of date
Epik Valor, Castle and Conquest ... Not sure of date

Notes

*: The Creative Sounds project totalled $1230 for 2 drivers, Behirnger EP-2500 Amp, and EQ. In addition to the $1230, one can either build an enclosure, or have one built for appx. $400. I estimate that a more expensive and powerful amplifier will add 2-4 points to this design.

laughable........completely........and not laughing at monster but at the original poster. I post so little now adays because of how many people that know less than J6P post nowadays. You know how many absolutely excellent subs have less than 400 watts of power? Check out the REL Stentor sub. I have heard one and there are not words to describe how good it sounds. The fact that its round should not affect its sound, in fact it might help with sound. Look at a company like Sonus Faber who's super high end speakers are designed in the shape of a lute. Very much round. helps with internal reflections. I can imagine this would only help with Bass as well. Less canceling on the frequency response. Im sure if you walked into the room and heard it before you saw the name you might have thought differently. This happens to be an HSU forum. That seems to be the only thing ever reccomended to anybody. Somebody asks about purchasing a Velodyne or Martin Logan and the first three posters will tell them its over priced crap and they should buy an HSU model xxxx. Monster realizes that in the future they will be making a lot less money as you only need one wire for picture and sound. Thats a lot less cables sold. In order to stay viable they have to get into other things. They actually sell furniture even. You should check it out.

laughable........completely........and not laughing at monster but at the original poster. I post so little now adays because of how many people that know less than J6P post nowadays. You know how many absolutely excellent subs have less than 400 watts of power? Check out the REL Stentor sub. I have heard one and there are not words to describe how good it sounds. The fact that its round should not affect its sound, in fact it might help with sound. Look at a company like Sonus Faber who's super high end speakers are designed in the shape of a lute. Very much round. helps with internal reflections. I can imagine this would only help with Bass as well. Less canceling on the frequency response. Im sure if you walked into the room and heard it before you saw the name you might have thought differently. This happens to be an HSU forum. That seems to be the only thing ever reccomended to anybody. Somebody asks about purchasing a Velodyne or Martin Logan and the first three posters will tell them its over priced crap and they should buy an HSU model xxxx. Monster realizes that in the future they will be making a lot less money as you only need one wire for picture and sound. Thats a lot less cables sold. In order to stay viable they have to get into other things. They actually sell furniture even. You should check it out.

the rel's got spanked by svs (and others) in the avtalk shootout. products by svs and elemental designs seem to get more play here than hsu. hsu was huge like 3-4 years ago, when it was really a top price/performance player. it's all just a battle for best bang for the buck. the rel subs might be fine even great, but they won't hold a candle the a7-900 and the a7-900 is half the price.

spanked in what way? I dont care about pure output. If I did I would watch movies inside my car so even my lungs will vibrate from my car sub. I care about how well the bass blends. Does the sub completely disappear. So once again SVS and others like them will absolutely SPL out a company like REL. REL even claims there subs arent very good for movies as much as music. It is directly marketed as a sub for music. They are smooth as it gets. The only point on the REL I was making was that it also has what would be considered a tiny amp.

spanked in what way?

harmonic distortion, extension, compression, spl...pretty much across the board.

MUCH BETTER DEAL (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=928353):D

I think the wattage is useless. I only run 250 watts(each) into my subs. I can reach reference levels easily with that amount. Remember not everyone use the same standard for specs.

According to Craigsub's rankings, the new SVS PB13 Ultra WAS their top tested sub, until being surpassed by the 435 lb dual 18" Elemental Designs A7-900.

True statement, but remember that Craigsub hasn't tested any of the megabuck subwoofers as far as I'm aware, DD-18 was the priciest so far according to msrp. "Top of the line" doesn't include cost as a factor.

spanked in what way? I dont care about pure output. If I did I would watch movies inside my car so even my lungs will vibrate from my car sub. I care about how well the bass blends. Does the sub completely disappear. So once again SVS and others like them will absolutely SPL out a company like REL. REL even claims there subs arent very good for movies as much as music. It is directly marketed as a sub for music. They are smooth as it gets. The only point on the REL I was making was that it also has what would be considered a tiny amp.

REL makes subwoofers for music lovers who want a subwoofer to fill in accurately, that missing octave from their full range floor standers. nobody is "spanking" REL in that department

REL does not make subs that are exciting for darla taps, pulse, transformers, aliens blowing up new york city and all that fun stuff, they are not made for that



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Hmmmm... Think this would be a good match for some Bose sattelites? ;-)

Thanks OTK for that statement plus, to what I said...........I only brought up the REL because for $5500 (thats what I remember the price being) it ONLY had a 400 watt amp. That was the point of my comment. But he did a great job of doing what I made fun of on the other side of things. The moment somebody asks about anything on AVS not HSU or SVS the SVS guys on here immediately come in to send links and talk about how awesome those subs are. Just gets annoying. I have learned I could care less about any specs on subs. They honestly mean nothing at all. I have heard a pair of speakers that were only rated down to 30 hz on the spec. But in the room they were installed we were able to get them to play below 20hz. Your room has more to do with how anything sounds than any specs. I also have a hard time believing any SVS could come close to the super high end subs out there. Not because SVS is not a good sub, but because they do not aim for the super high end market.

It would beat out any sub in the world..........

...........if it was wired with Cards cable internally and had a few magic hockey pucks in strategic locations placed on the inside.

I had a Rel Stratus III and in terms of output it was not impressive for the money. However, it integrated with the B&W Nautilus 805's much better than my Dual AV-15 Subs ever could. It made the Nautilus sound like a well integrated $5000 speaker. The Dual AV-15's made it sound like a $2000 speaker with a big subwoofer. - This thread has veered off topic, but I want to stress again that I am not defending monster cable, just saying that there are many factors to consider other than power.

P.S. SVS subs arent the top of the line either, as I'm sure your aware.

Darn close for commercial. Other than JL's(and possibly eD) what would you say is better and not 100% more in cost or more?

The Velodyne DD-18 is at least as good as the $5500 REL. The DD-18 can work with any speaker. The DD-18 has the best crossover design I am aware of. What other subwoofer has a low pass crossover that is variable in 1Hz increments from 15 to 199Hz with variable slope of 6/12/18/24/36/42/48 db per octave?

Power is important. Why do you think the JL Fathom F113 has a 2,500 watt amp?

Power is important. Why do you think the JL Fathom F113 has a 2,500 watt amp?

do you think that all "watts" are equal in every amp ?

I have learned I could care less about any specs on subs. They honestly mean nothing at all.


i think that i have heard that line before...from a bose salesman! :D

specs matter. 'nuff said.

REL makes subwoofers for music lovers who want a subwoofer to fill in accurately, that missing octave from their full range floor standers. nobody is "spanking" REL in that department

REL does not make subs that are exciting for darla taps, pulse, transformers, aliens blowing up new york city and all that fun stuff, they are not made for that

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no need to frown, just look to the data (http://www.avtalk.co.uk/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=18354&start=0&rid=0&SQ=0).

10% THD @98 dB @ 37Hz. rel subs may be great if they are played at low volumes, but once they get "turned up", distortion sets in. i don't have a beef with rel, they're just not very good performers for the money.

what do you consider "low volumes"

98db is pretty loud and well above reference levels

an audiophile would probably have a stereo pair of subs anyway


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what do you consider "low volumes"

98db is pretty loud and well above reference levels

an audiophile would probably have a stereo pair of subs anyway


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Main channels---105db max
Sub channel-----115db max


BTW that Monster sub is only THX Select (which probably half the subs on the market would pass), in contrast the Velodyne DD15/DD18 receive the THX Ultra2 certification which is THX's highest level (again there are many others that would pass if tested)

cheers:)

this whole thx thing seems more and more to just be a marketing/money machine. i'd love to see these "thx select" subs produce 115db at the listening position @20Hz in a "medium sized room". the whole notion was "same experience, smaller room", but it doesn't appear that the thx select equipment can live up to the promise.

Any idea what this (http://www.monsterthx.com/thx/speakers.asp)means?

Quote: High-performance, THX Select-certified Tower Base Modules offers excellent performance of low frequencies up to 20Hz. A 12 magnetically-shielded woofer driven by a powerful 200 Watt amplifier delivers clean, tight bass, while the curvilinear enclosure cancels standing waves for clear imaging and a deeper, more precise soundstage.

Apparently, Monster has a subwoofer that plays *up to* 20Hz and has "clear imaging". LOL. Horse-snot!

obviously written by a guy that had nothing to do with the design. The guy that wrote that had an adjective quota to make. Otherwise THX wouldnt want anything to do with that sub either. Nobody wants a localizable sub. Pretty funny all the same.

Is there a picture of this sub or what ever the heck it is as those links, on the first page don’t really show enough.

Is there a picture of this sub or what ever the heck it is as those links, on the first page don’t really show enough.

http://www.monsterthx.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2173

Reference level as specified in Dolby's papers for DVD playback is:

Main channels---105db max
Sub channel-----115db max



once again, you're thinking home theater

music lovers "audiophiles" don't care what one sub sounds like out in some parking lot blasting sine waves at max levels

they care about what a pair of subs sound like in their living room with real listening material at realistic levels

cheers :)

once again, you're thinking home theater

music lovers "audiophiles" don't care what one sub sounds like out in some parking lot blasting sine waves at max levels

they care about what a pair of subs sound like in their living room with real listening material at realistic levels

cheers :)

Since when do you know how "audiophiles" choose their subwoofers? What makes you think that "audiophiles" use "a pair" of subwoofers? The standards of gauging subwoofers are largely scientific. True audiophiles never use Def Tech subwoofers.

Audiophiles care about what subwoofers sound like in a parking lot blasting sine waves at max levels. Not only that, the best subwoofers are really great for HT and music.

Since when do you know how "audiophiles" choose their subwoofers? What makes you think that "audiophiles" use "a pair" of subwoofers? The standards of gauging subwoofers are largely scientific. True audiophiles never use Def Tech subwoofers.

Audiophiles care about what subwoofers sound like in a parking lot blasting sine waves at max levels. Not only that, the best subwoofers are really great for HT and music.

you always seem to bring def tech up with my posts, LOL

i know how audiophiles choose their subs because i used to work in a high-end stereo shop and not a single one ever asked me to pull the sub out into the parking lot with a chair and some sine waves

if audiophiles dont care about testing of a sub so they must not care about thd and FR and time delay.

if audiophiles dont care about testing of a sub so they must not care about thd and FR and time delay.

ears are the best test

ears are the best test

Iggster knows what he is talking about.

You do not understand that people do not sit in the parking lot to listen. That is where the measurements are taken. In reality, the best test would be to put the subwoofer on a 25 foot tall pole and take the measurement up there.

You make like euphonic distortion, or exaggerated bass like you get with those Def Tech subs.

I have two of the Monster 200 Bass Towers and they are decent subs, but I would never have paid full price for them. I got them through a friend that was working at Monster Cable at the time at the "friends and family" discount. Was about $750 for both towers.

I think they work pretty good as subs and as speaker stands.

The one thing I find annoying with them is that there's no way to turn off the "auto-on" feature. I'd prefer that they stay on all the time, but that's just me.

And no I don't have the matching Monster speakers.

Oh and for the record, you can't "buy" the THX cert. If you could, then Monster Cable's amps would be THX certified as well...trust me, they certainly want them to be...but they don't meet or exceed the spec...so no cert.

Should also add that I do believe that you need two of these for a THX Select system. I don't think you'll reach the 115db max output with just one of the units.

I recently heard the Monster Godfather 1500 subwoofer (actually there was two) in a 400 sg ft theater room with 10 foot ceilings and they were good.... pant flappin good. I love high end stuff and these were better than the velodyne that they also carry. and blow away the Sunfire. So monster can and did make a good product. I have no reason other than to tell the truth.

Joey


I suspect these were also mated to an Eleganza system.Care to elaborate?

I have 2 pairs of the SLT8400's , 2 pairs of the MD ELG SLB1000 bass modules , a SLC3600 center channel and this system is frighteningly good :eek:( I also own Genelec 1031's and 1038's so I know good from bad -so let's get that out of the way ,OK?). My next purchase will be a pair of Godfathers to complete the system and have absolutely no doubt that my neighbors will hate me and the grin on my face will only increase. They are not worth full price but there are deals to be had out there on them. Back to the OP , a 1000 watt Godfather can be had for about $1000. Ok , bash away.

http://www.mdesignlife.com/eleganza/

115 dB where? At the listening postion? At 1 or 2m or what? I'd be very surprised if it could produce 115dB at the listening position unless it was right in front of it.

I suspect these were also mated to an Eleganza system.Care to elaborate?

I have 2 pairs of the SLT8400's , 2 pairs of the MD ELG SLB1000 bass modules , a SLC3600 center channel and this system is frighteningly good :eek:( I also own Genelec 1031's and 1038's so I know good from bad -so let's get that out of the way ,OK?). My next purchase will be a pair of Godfathers to complete the system and have absolutely no doubt that my neighbors will hate me and the grin on my face will only increase. They are not worth full price but there are deals to be had out there on them. Back to the OP , a 1000 watt Godfather can be had for about $1000. Ok , bash away.

http://www.mdesignlife.com/eleganza/

Hi nuts


$1000 - must be EBay'd through the US as they're over $5000 grand here in Edmonton @ retail.

I heard two of them myself, doing a loop on the "Open Range" gunfight scene and they did do very very well. But how low is that? Not very low. I didn't set the subs up myself, nor did I bring my ratshack meter, but I know they were running hot.

However, when I put on music, the subwoofers were horrible. No articulation to them whatsoever. Boom boom boom - it sounded more like my buddy from the RCMP pipe band was in there with his bass drum banging on the thing. For 10 grand, those fricken subs better damn well be able to play a bass note from an acoustic bass properly, but not a chance.

But hey, if you can get a $5000 sub for $1000 (not surprising actually, that's what happens with grossly overpriced stuff, the market adapts) to match your Eleganza's then I say go for it. You are right, the 7 foot eleganza's I heard plugged into all McIntosh gear was very very nice sounding indeed, but still way overpriced.

I guess that's Monster's MO though, isn't it. It's not that they make bad stuff, they just charge double for it (or in the Godfather's case triple what it is actually worth.... though I guess you're paying for the finish on it, as you're certainly not paying for performance).

Hey Kpt , I'm disappointed to hear the Godfathers may suck for music :(

That's my primary concern as I would be mixing 5.1 classical and jazz on them. I have no opportunity to hear them locally before I buy, and that sucks too. I would getting them from the same place I got the rest of my system (not Evilbay) . I wouldn't be paying $1000 ea. either as I would buy 2 ;)

It's the shipping that kills still though.

I was really hoping a pair would suffice my needs.But if they are truly that lousy for music I may have to rethink my plans. I am in Victoria BC - I wonder if it would be worth my time to take a boot up to Edmonton for a day and mess with these at the shop you speak of. I wonder...

Maybe a pair of Velodyne MiniVee 10's or therein would be a better choice at this pricepoint. Whatever it will be needs to " better damn well be able to play a bass note from an acoustic bass properly"
:D
Thanks for your opinion.

Hold on folks, it goes from 20Hz-350KHz (yes it says KHz on every spec) so I guess it goes from subsonic to about 4 octaves higher than the realm of human hearing. Whoever said its just a sub doesnt know jack, it is prolly the greatest full range speaker ever conceived by man or monster.

LOL oh, that mean it would only satisfy passing bats!:D

Don’t they mean 35KHz I mean 350KHz is bit over kill!:D

Should also add that I do believe that you need two of these for a THX Select system. I don't think you'll reach the 115db max output with just one of the units.

At what distance as well as testing it out in many rooms of different shapes and sizes and using only film martial soundtracks, now that would interest me.


http://www.monsterthx.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2173


Quote from Monster Cable
Stunning, multi-directional bass transports you right into the action.
Monster Subwoofers fill your room with deep, tight, heart-pounding bass you can feel as well as hear. High-powered for fast-dynamic, transient bass with sonic accuracy, they can be placed anywhere in the room to bring movies, music and surround sound gaming to life. Monster spent countless hours of critical listening to ensure designs met stringent Monster standards for audio quality and could surpass requirements for THX Select certification. A 12 woofer and 200 Watt RMS amplifier masterfully reproduce exciting, low-frequency effects with incredibly realistic, clear sound from all directions. From your favorite DVDs to the hottest CDs, you'll hear every nuance the way the director intended.
Quote from Monster Cable

Oh, so now it’s become directional I always thought it was omni-directional. LOL

So does Monster pick a few members from AVS to try out there new product before unleashing it onto the market?:D

Hey Kpt , I'm disappointed to hear the Godfathers may suck for music :(

That's my primary concern as I would be mixing 5.1 classical and jazz on them. I have no opportunity to hear them locally before I buy, and that sucks too. I would getting them from the same place I got the rest of my system (not Evilbay) . I wouldn't be paying $1000 ea. either as I would buy 2 ;)

It's the shipping that kills still though.

I was really hoping a pair would suffice my needs.But if they are truly that lousy for music I may have to rethink my plans. I am in Victoria BC - I wonder if it would be worth my time to take a boot up to Edmonton for a day and mess with these at the shop you speak of. I wonder...

Maybe a pair of Velodyne MiniVee 10's or therein would be a better choice at this pricepoint. Whatever it will be needs to " better damn well be able to play a bass note from an acoustic bass properly"
:D
Thanks for your opinion.

Get this (http://**********/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=189&category_id=9&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37) if you can wait or this (http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm) if you can't.

Get this (http://**********/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=189&category_id=9&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37) if you can wait or this (http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm) if you can't.

:eek::eek::eek:...did CADOBHuK just recommend an SVS???

I can now die knowing I've seen it all.

It actually has wait time of 3 weeks but that's pretty short

Get this (http://**********/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=189&category_id=9&manufacturer_id=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=37) if you can wait or this (http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb13ultra.cfm) if you can't.

2 more I can't hear locally lol

LOL oh, that mean it would only satisfy passing bats!:D

Don’t they mean 35KHz I mean 350KHz is bit over kill!:D



At what distance as well as testing it out in many rooms of different shapes and sizes and using only film martial soundtracks, now that would interest me.





Quote from Monster Cable
Stunning, multi-directional bass transports you right into the action.
Monster Subwoofers fill your room with deep, tight, heart-pounding bass you can feel as well as hear. High-powered for fast-dynamic, transient bass with sonic accuracy, they can be placed anywhere in the room to bring movies, music and surround sound gaming to life. Monster spent countless hours of critical listening to ensure designs met stringent Monster standards for audio quality and could surpass requirements for THX Select certification. A 12 woofer and 200 Watt RMS amplifier masterfully reproduce exciting, low-frequency effects with incredibly realistic, clear sound from all directions. From your favorite DVDs to the hottest CDs, you'll hear every nuance the way the director intended.
Quote from Monster Cable

Oh, so now it’s become directional I always thought it was omni-directional. LOL

So does Monster pick a few members from AVS to try out there new product before unleashing it onto the market?:D

oh stop - the marketing spin on these is really no different than on any other mass market fodder. Misspellings , mis -interpretations and myths . meh

CATHODEhook is on another payroll now !!! :eek::eek::eek::eek: :p

The Monstah KeeBL Gofmother Cheapanza is waiting for a fish to buy it and have regrets ! LOL

A $600 DIY sub will trounce the Cheapanza. And one ported Acpoupower 18 backed by a modest bridged XTi4000 will blow the MDF from the Cheapanza.

2 more I can't hear locally lol

Thats ok, because seems to me all the good subs for their price are internet-direct, which means you can't hear them locally. You might even like something you hear locally, but the ones you can't hear are still better.

And theres no reason not to bring up pb13, it seems like a good choice if one is looking for music performance and finish and doesnt wanna wait 4 months for mwf-15s