Don't get me wrong. This disc looks absolutely magnificent. I just want to make sure that I am not the one seeing this:

29:42 - They come in on the drummer, and the pick light is enveloping him. I am seeing some serious posterization with the pink, especially when the drummer lifts his right arm. His armpit looks like a bright pink splotch on the screen. The symbol also shows some issues because of the chrome reflection, but the armpit is a big area of pink.

I think that is the right time. Can anyone else check?

BTW: Sony SXRD and Panny

Ok, here is a pic. Sorry, I only have a 1.3MP camera and its pretty old. I walked up on the image so you can hopefully see what I am talking about. His arm isn't bad, until you get to the arm pit. There, you see a mass of pink, surrounded by a lighter shade of pink and you can see how its a jumbled mess of colors instead of the smooth colors for the rest of the arm. There are spots all through this photo, if you look, just none as glaring as the pit.

http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc252/th_18785_DSC00647_122_252lo.JPG (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=18785_DSC00647_122_252lo.JPG)

Can someone check and see if they can repeat this? I checked the video setup and my display is real close to being perfect for this title.


The camera used for that shot is portable HD camera and may show some artifacts in the source. (Portable HD cameras can show compression artifacts that the bigger pro level cameras used to shoot the bulk of the concert do not.)

This is a limitation of the camera used for this shot, and not a reflection of the encoding or the disc.

The camera does a better job hiding what my display is showing that it does adding artifacts to the shot. The picture is only for reference. I need someone with the disc to check this out.


Not YOUR camera, I am talking about the camera used for the shots of the drummer at the concert.

They were a guy here that had similar post issue, he finded out that his AMP coudn't do 1080p all that well and set the PS3 back in 1080i and voila it was fixed... try that, i'am just telling tought..

Ah... so a bad source is what you're saying. Very possible.


Yep.

BTW, I was the production supervisor on this release (all three formats), so I might have seen the material before. ;)

Yep.

BTW, I was the production supervisor on this release (all three formats), so I might have seen the material before. ;)
Wow! Very cool. I only have the regular DVD version, but it is fantastic. I will be buying the Blu-Ray (or HD-DVD) version when the format war is settled.

Great job....

Yep.

BTW, I was the production supervisor on this release (all three formats), so I might have seen the material before. ;)

thanx for info !!
is it OK to import this title on blu-ray ? is there any region coding ?
or it will be released here in Europe too ?

Marek

thanx for info !!
is it OK to import this title on blu-ray ? is there any region coding ?
or it will be released here in Europe too ?

Marek

From the NIN Live Beside You In Time HD FAQ (http://halo22.nin.com/hdfaq.html)

The international release date for Beside You In Time is 26 February. Only the standard DVD is being released outside of the US. If you want the HD DVD or Blu-ray versions, you will need to import them. The standard DVD is being released in NTSC video format only - if you live in Europe or another region which uses the PAL video standard, please check your hardware to ensure NTSC playback compatibility. Most DVD players released in the last few years support both PAL and NTSC playback.

There is no region encoding on any version of Beside You In Time, so importing will not be a problem.

thanx for info !!
is it OK to import this title on blu-ray ? is there any region coding ?
or it will be released here in Europe too ?

Marek


There is no region coding on any of the NIN:BYIT discs. We purposely omitted region coding so that the discs could be sold around the world.

The European HD disc market is in the very early stages, but growing, so it's hard to come up with a good estimate of potential sales. As a result, you'll have to import the HD versions for Europe.

The DVD, of course, will be available in Europe as an NTSC release.

There is no region coding on any of the NIN:BYIT discs. We purposely omitted region coding so that the discs could be sold around the world.

The European HD disc market is in the very early stages, but growing, so it's hard to come up with a good estimate of potential sales. As a result, you'll have to import the HD versions for Europe.

The DVD, of course, will be available in Europe as an NTSC release.

thank you,
and I finaly read FAQ :) http://halo22.nin.com/hdfaq.html

Marek

Yep.

BTW, I was the production supervisor on this release (all three formats), so I might have seen the material before. ;)
Thanks for contributing to this forum Jim! I picked it up yesterday(not even a big fan of NIN) and all I can say is WOW! This is my new demo for PQ and AQ(and I cant even gey Tru HD yet!)
Couple questions/comments if you dont mind...
-Any insight to the video calibration screen??? It shows my blacks and whites are off a tad(very little) to the AVIA calibration disk.
-In regards to the audio setup, whats the purpose of that one??? Just to see if we got the correct speakers hooked up? I must say its one cool Dolby demo.
-Did you guys give any thought to PCM instead Tru HD?
-Did you notice a difference between BD and HD DVD, given BD is suppose to have a higher bit rate? Highdefdigest didnt mention one.
Thanks again!

Thanks for contributing to this forum Jim! I picked it up yesterday(not even a big fan of NIN) and all I can say is WOW! This is my new demo for PQ and AQ(and I cant even gey Tru HD yet!)
Couple questions/comments if you dont mind...
-Any insight to the video calibration screen??? It shows my blacks and whites are off a tad(very little) to the AVIA calibration disk.
-In regards to the audio setup, whats the purpose of that one??? Just to see if we got the correct speakers hooked up? I must say its one cool Dolby demo.
-Did you guys give any thought to PCM instead Tru HD?
-Did you notice a difference between BD and HD DVD, given BD is suppose to have a higher bit rate? Highdefdigest didnt mention one.
Thanks again!


To answer your questions....

1. The video calibration screen is designed to get people in the ballpark for setting up their TVs to view this show. Now how many times have you walked into a friend's house and have seen the most awful calibration imaginable on your friend's TV with everybody pretty much oblivious to the problem? That's what this feature is addressing. It's meant to get everyone roughly on the same page for viewing this concert. It was never designed to be the last word in calibration; there are other products out there for that.

2. Ditto with audio calibration. One of the common mistakes in setting up a player's audio preferences is selecting "PCM" instead of "Bitstream." People sometimes have the wrong audio setup because they either don't understand the technical details, or they have never gone into their player's set up menu. If someone has "PCM" selected, the audio could go out to the receiver and be decoded/output as Pro Logic Surround. This will sound like a surround sound mix, but it's not the mix that's on the disc. If you play the audio setup feature, you'll instantly be able to identify these types of gross problems and correct them.

3. We did give thought to plain PCM for the audio, but given the bitrate and disc space we needed to do a proper video encode, Dolby TrueHD was a better choice as it's about half the size of PCM with no loss in quality. We worked with Dolby Labs on this title and they were great in supporting us with toolsets and encoding for TrueHD.

4. The only difference between the two formats is a different PEAK bitrate on the video material. Probably 99% of the encode is the same. There may be subtle visual differences during the peak events, but they are over pretty quickly and probably very difficult to see. I certainly wouldn't worry about it :)

You know there's tendency in technical forums like this to make sort of a big deal about minor spec issues, and that's natural and understandable. But ultimately the way content creators approach the problem is fundamentally different. We don't care as much about the minor spec differences as long the show looks and sounds great.

Cheers,
Jim

Thanks!