Guys

A customer just e.mailed me as to how much he enjoys his Marquee 9500 the last few months, I choose to let him identify himself if he wants to; so take this you Lampheads!!!!!

"I'm astonished at the picture quality of this thing! Every fade to black just gives me chills......"

And that sports fans, among other reasons, is why it is CRT Forever for many of us.

A customer just e.mailed me as to how much he enjoys his Marquee 9500 the last few months, I choose to let him identify himself if he wants to; so take this you Lampheads!!!!!

"I'm astonished at the picture quality of this thing! Every fade to black just gives me chills......"
A woman licking here way up (or down) your belly should give you chills. If a fade to black does it, it may be time to re-evaluate your life.

Well I just got another brand new M8500 Green tube delivered yesterday from VDC so the Sky in my neighborhood definitely isn't falling. :) I also got an e-mail from a guy who got his first 8500 a few weeks ago. He just added a Lumagen scaler, hooked up a dozen or so sources to it, and is totally pleased with the fact that he can pick a resolution which makes each one looks it's best. From 720P, 840P, 1080i, etc. Oh , most importantly it can do from 12FL down to real Inky blacks for 10,000 hours with no bulb replacement.

A woman licking here way up (or down) your belly should give you chills. If a fade to black does it, it may be time to re-evaluate your life.

Hey, ain't nothing wrong with jungle fever... ;)

Chris, I think you have to understand that things aren't a black or white issue for Q. Being a digital fan and a probable necrophiliac, he prefers gray.

Guys

A customer just e.mailed me as to how much he enjoys his Marquee 9500 the last few months, I choose to let him identify himself if he wants to; so take this you Lampheads!!!!!

"I'm astonished at the picture quality of this thing! Every fade to black just gives me chills......"

And that sports fans, among other reasons, is why it is CRT Forever for many of us.

What's with the mystery identity of said client? Are we talking famous or something?

Dan

Just a courtesy to someone who I have quoted withoit asking if he wanted his name used........

Good Night,

Qqq being my former landlady was witness to horrible tradegy with my beloved Grand-mama. I live in basement. Qqq like to jazzercise to Jane fonda and his bouncing make my projector of crt fall on my grand-mama. My religon say no bury so I leave her on couch. qqq, I hope no make sexy time with dead grand-mama. Noooo! Why you visit much and leave with dust on pants?

I'm sure the customer isn't going to want his name associated with this thread now...

Koos's english skills have deteriorated quite a bit. I wonder what happened to him?

He has been hanging out with Borat.

Funniest thing you've ever said QQQ, that and that digitals are better

Funniest thing you've ever said QQQ, that and that digitals are better
Can you show me where I've ever said that? I'd like to see it.

Can you show me where I've ever said that? I'd like to see it.

You've already had the mods delete it. :eek: ;) :D

Cliffy

the digitals are better
:eek:

HDTVFanAtic

Good One.
Put the QQQ in its place. LOL

The digitals are better.
I like that :). Using the HDTVFanAtic method of finding quotes from someone i just found this one:
I like to beat my wife. She keeps messing around with my gay lover.

LOL. That's actually pretty damn funny. Brings me back to the days of how FUN this forum REALLY used to be.

Cliffy

Guys

A customer just e.mailed me as to how much he enjoys his Marquee 9500 the last few months, I choose to let him identify himself if he wants to; so take this you Lampheads!!!!!

"I'm astonished at the picture quality of this thing! Every fade to black just gives me chills......"

And that sports fans, among other reasons, is why it is CRT Forever for many of us.

BTW big dog, are you worried that nine inches isn't enough these days? :eek: :D ;)

Cliffy

Cliff, when are you going to have your stack set up?

I'm chill :cool:



oh BTW Barco now is going digital. It seams they think the RS1 is pretty hot
http://www.cinenow.com/uk/news-2282.html

A woman licking here way up (or down) your belly should give you chills. If a fade to black does it, it may be time to re-evaluate your life.

Ok, I just got an email from Tim directing me here, and it was me he was quoting... If you deny that you take pleasure in the insane blackness your PJ throws, I guess you're just not looking at the same image I am... Well, maybe I exaggerated about getting chills, but I am still very impressed regardless. Long live the CRT! It does however play second fiddle to sex, but it's easier to turn on my 9500 than my wife hehe. And down the toilet my name goes. How's it going Dragan?

Can you show me where I've ever said that? I'd like to see it.

This is the most recent one I could find, I'm sure there are more:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9834313&&#post9834313

In its context, you are referring to the CRT as a buggy, and a BMW as a digital.
The fat lady already sang...and left the building. There's nothing wrong with enjoying a romantic night on the town in a horse and buggy. But when one insists said buggy is superior in performance to a BMW, a trip to the mental doctor might be in order.

This is the most recent one I could find, I'm sure there are more:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9834313&&#post9834313

In its context, you are referring to the CRT as a buggy, and a BMW as a digital.
At least HDTVFanatic just had some fun and made something up.

I believe only the mentally challenged would be unable to see the above quote was tongue in cheek. But wait a minute - I posted that it was tongue in cheek a few posts later and I know you read that. You see, what you and Churfuf fail to get which Clarence and Phil and Energeezer and others DO get is that my posts are usually mocking the attitudes of those like you, who are convinced that only those who you who belong to the church of CRT know what good video is.

I've said it about 100 times but I'll say it again. All that matters is what makes someone happy. In the world of projection *IMO* there >currently< is no best. CRT, DLP and LCOS each have their strengths and depending on ones priorities (absolute black verses detail for instance) one might prefer one to the other.

BTW Gino, I also clarify that I was also not serious when I said someone who get chills from seeing fade to black should re-evaluate life Nor was Marshall serious when he said I probably am a necrophiliac since I prefer grey digital. I just want to clear those things up so you are not confused.

Chia

FOR ME, DLP IS THE BEST. WITH MY UNIQUE VISION SYSTEM, THE RAINBOWS ARE POSITIVELY HYPNOTIC. CRT IS OK BUT WHEN IT FADES TO BLACK I GET A BIT FREAKED OUT. I LIKE THE LIGHT FROM A BULB, SO MUCH SO IN FACT I HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF NOT TO FLY INTO IT.

The digital ones are better - they are the only ones I use http://epdmnbagfbq.blogspot.com/

:rolleyes:

this is the first thread i have read and or posted in since getting out of jail. :)
and i see once again poor Q is being unfairly maligned, :confused:
he has said more than once that the best hd system
he has ever seen were vertical stacked runco DTV 1200
projectors. of course he has also referred to crt projectors as buggy whips and i believe though
i may be wrong dinosaurs,but what he has said in jest
is true in fact. as far as the home theater market is
concerned a crt projector know matter how good the
picture is how well built it is or how long it will
last is a very costly buggy whip
that can not compeat with the price of smaller digital
projectors or rebuilt high end crt projectors being
sold buy resalers . it`s the same with my 12 foot c band system it may show a better picture but i do not belive that dish network and dtv is loseing any sleep
because of this,at least the makers of digital projectors are making improvements
each year :)
and it really does not matter what you buy all it is ,is a
BIG TV

PS
DEET I LIKE RAINBOWS MYSELF BUT ONLY WHEN I AM SMOKING
NOT WHEN I AM WATCHING TV AND I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO POST
IN ALL CAPS HERE SO WATCH YOURSELF :D



XANATOS

WTF, don't just throw that out there and leave us/me hanging xanatos and don't make me tell you what I'm referring to ;)! Is this old news that I missed? Why? How long? PM if you prefer.

As for your 12' dish, I loved those things. Can you still pick up all the channels that used to be available on them? The D4TV (if I recall the model) used to give access to feeds that put the avarege DirectTV feed to shame.

WELCOME BACK XANATOS! Deet, turn your cap lock off - that is xanatos' domain.

Cliff, when are you going to have your stack set up?

I'm HOPING to have Ken over in about a month and a half. The theater will only be in a "usable" state. I cant wait. :)

Cliff

I'm chill :cool:



oh BTW Barco now is going digital. It seams they think the RS1 is pretty hot
http://www.cinenow.com/uk/news-2282.html

You still coming through for the comparison?? :D

Cliff

...... It does however play second fiddle to sex....


Well maybe for you....;)

You still coming through for the comparison?? :D

Cliff

yes soon

Ok, I just got an email from Tim directing me here, and it was me he was quoting... If you deny that you take pleasure in the insane blackness your PJ throws, I guess you're just not looking at the same image I am... Well, maybe I exaggerated about getting chills, but I am still very impressed regardless. Long live the CRT! It does however play second fiddle to sex, but it's easier to turn on my 9500 than my wife hehe. And down the toilet my name goes. How's it going Dragan? it's going well, hard to keep Marquee's in stock though : ) Sounds like you have you reference HT up and running? The 9500LC and B&W speakers should compliment each other nicely.
I'll give a month though before you decide that huge theatre needs a bigger screen and it's time to stack or blend!

If you deny that you take pleasure in the insane blackness your PJ throws, I guess you're just not looking at the same image I am...

You were responding to QQQ. The fact is, he is not looking at the same image as you. Unfortunately, QQQ is not blessed with the taste nor the sense to have a CRT projector. Thus, he is looking at a crappy artifact ridden image that only does black twice per year (when the bulb blows).

So, since he clearly does not understand the value of black, you cannot expect him to share a videophile's delight at well executed projection.

Dave

Cool, i'm glad to hear that business is good. Yeah, it's up and running, and you're right, those b&w's compliment the picture very nicely. very much like a theater, and everybody that checks it out is blown away, myself included. It still needs work, but i think it'll always be a WIP. I'll email you some pics and a more detailed description of my setup.

You were responding to QQQ. The fact is, he is not looking at the same image as you. Unfortunately, QQQ is not blessed with the taste nor the sense to have a CRT projector. Thus, he is looking at a crappy artifact ridden image that only does black twice per year (when the bulb blows).

So, since he clearly does not understand the value of black, you cannot expect him to share a videophile's delight at well executed projection.

Dave

AAh well then that makes perfect sense. There was a study done shown on the home page here talking about what property of the picture is most important to the human eye, and contrast ratio was at the top of the list. So, i guess you're really missing out on a digital unit...

Nor was Marshall serious when he said I probably am a necrophiliac since I prefer grey digital

Yeah, it would be pretty silly of me to think you enjoyed hugging up on a corpse simply because you prefer digital. Probably due to some childhood trauma or that weirdo in your basement.

All we are is dust in the wind,

Marshall

AAh well then that makes perfect sense. There was a study done shown on the home page here talking about what property of the picture is most important to the human eye, and contrast ratio was at the top of the list. So, i guess you're really missing out on a digital unit...
Explaining what contrast is in technical terms doesn't mean much to a non-videophile but if you show them a picture like this it helps them to understand pretty quickly.

http://www.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/Samsung%20contrat.JPG

Dolby Labs just purchased BrightSide in the last day or two and that is big news for anyone familiar with their technology.

Wow, good to know that there is in fact life after CRT, even if it's a ways out. my other concern is that i use so many different resolutions/refresh rates/aspect ratios, i hate to think of being locked into only one (i do realize that they scale and all that), but maybe i'll be using strictly 1080i/p in 5 years, who knows.

That is a good example of ansi cr not on/off. What it states on the top of the image (10k:1) has nothing to do with these two images.

That is a good example of ansi cr not on/off. What it states on the top of the image (10k:1) has nothing to do with these two images.
...and you saw Elvis at McDonald's the other day?

That is a good example of ansi cr not on/off. What it states on the top of the image (10k:1) has nothing to do with these two images.

100k:1 is one insane CR, but who knows how black that can really go. the brightside pic on the right seems to have a decent black, but as good as CRT? probably not. Certainly brighter, but at $50k for a 37" set, i'll be happy with my 9500 for a good long while.

100k:1 is one insane CR, but who knows how black that can really go.
I am unsure what you mean by that. Based on the light output of any present day consumer video device, black is going to be black with 100,000:1 contrast.
the brightside pic on the right seems to have a decent black, but as good as CRT? probably not.
That's the type of anti new technology statements some make over here that I just don't get. If a device has 100,000:1 contrast of course it will have black as good as a CRT. Why wouldn't it?
Certainly brighter
I suspect we'll see devices with different brightness levels. There's no reason to believe these will be light canons. In fact if it's LED based that's one of the challenged with regard to FP.
, but at $50k for a 37" set, i'll be happy with my 9500 for a good long while.
The relevance of Dolby purchasing Brightside is obviously that the technology will be incorporated into main stream products. As economies of scale increase it will no more needs to cost 50K than a line multiplier any longer needs to cost 25K. Samsung has LCD TV's coming to market in a few months that incorporate whatever is shown in those pictures and the pricing is in line with comparable TV's (I think they are LCD based, not 100% positive).

I find it very telling that there have been several crt enthusiasts that have gone into the digital forums and been banned from this forum for what they said. Yet the digital folk can come into the CRT forum and stir up whatever they want without even a word from the moderators.

Of course these are the same moderators/owners who don't just close, but completely delete threads that discuss why and where the CRT enthusiasts have moved onto.

What a sad sad place this has become :(

I find it very telling that there have been several crt enthusiasts that have gone into the digital forums and been banned from this forum for what they said. Yet the digital folk can come into the CRT forum and stir up whatever they want without even a word from the moderators.
And JFK was killed by Elvis. Are you aware that "DEET" who participated in this forum just once in this thread and participates 99% in the time in digital form immediately had his DEET account deleted by the moderator upon posting here? But of course it's all a conspiracy to keep the CRT forum down.

If only deet repelled QQQ. Cancer would be an acceptable side-effect.

And JFK was killed by Elvis.

I really don't care for your 'religon' comments but this is downright blasphemous. Don't mess with The King.

Q, this is for you, you angry dog.

http://davidlynch.de/thirddog.jpg

Guys

A customer just e.mailed me as to how much he enjoys his Marquee 9500 the last few months, I choose to let him identify himself if he wants to; so take this you Lampheads!!!!!

"I'm astonished at the picture quality of this thing! Every fade to black just gives me chills......"

And that sports fans, among other reasons, is why it is CRT Forever for many of us.
Is there a list of movies that have a lot of fade to black scenes. I feel like I'm missing out on something here. What movie is considered to have the best fade to black scene of all time? I'd love to invite some friends over to watch this scene over and over again. :rolleyes:

thers been no real pot stiring in this thread ,and we should all thank the guys that have
been buying digital projectors all theas years suffing throu bad pictures for most of that time and paying all that r&d money
just so i can one day enjoy a six foot tall constant hight rear projection
system with 35 foot lamberts or better picture and good blacks shadow detail along with picture depth and dont forget the long life of led`s compared to lamps THANKS GUYS


XANATOS

I am unsure what you mean by that. Based on the light output of any present day consumer video device, black is going to be black with 100,000:1 contrast

That's the type of anti new technology statements some make over here that I just don't get. If a device has 100,000:1 contrast of course it will have black as good as a CRT. Why wouldn't it?

I suspect we'll see devices with different brightness levels. There's no reason to believe these will be light canons. In fact if it's LED based that's one of the challenged with regard to FP.

In my light controlled theater, when it fades to black, it's totally black. In order to increase the CR from 35k to 100k, you're going to have to significantly increase the light output. I also think that it's possible to have a 100k CR without having total black if the image is bright enough. hey, it's possible it does totally black out and have an image nothing else can compare to, i'm just a skeptic until i see it for myself. I actually hope there is a technology that is superior to CRT as it's not going to last forever, but i have yet to see one that accomidates all my current viewing needs.

The relevance of Dolby purchasing Brightside is obviously that the technology will be incorporated into main stream products. As economies of scale increase it will no more needs to cost 50K than a line multiplier any longer needs to cost 25K. Samsung has LCD TV's coming to market in a few months that incorporate whatever is shown in those pictures and the pricing is in line with comparable TV's (I think they are LCD based, not 100% positive).

Obviously the price will come down, but it's going to be quite some time before you can get a monster display with that technology at an affordable price. We'll have to wait and watch how it develops.

Who cares about projectors.

Sony's over 1,000,000:1 OLED panels were simply WAY beyond anything any of you have seen.

CRT blacks...hah!

What was the largest you saw Tryg? Thickness etc.?

27" 1/4 inch?

Who cares about projectors.

Sony's over 1,000,000:1 OLED panels were simply WAY beyond anything any of you have seen.

CRT blacks...hah!

OLED seems really sweet with some great possibilities. But they still haven't been able to make the panels last longer than a few hundred hours. I say give it another 3 years and we will be in for a great treat. Its just starting to get good. :)

OLED is great, but I haven't seen a 10ft wide panel yet.
QQQ of course you could have 100,000:1 contrast ration and still have raised blacks, it just means a far brighter top end.

The brightside displays can do true black though as they have an active LED backlight so you can set video black to be LEDs OFF, so you can get a real black out of those.

The Brightside display I saw demod crapped all over CRT, DLP, LCOS you name it, the picture makes everything you look at later seem lackluster and disappointing. I strongly recommend no-one looks at the brightside displays, you will never be happy again.

forget anything I said in this post. Thanks. :)

QQQ of course you could have 100,000:1 contrast ration and still have raised blacks, it just means a far brighter top end.
Thanks for explaining exactly what I said as if I didn't say it. Here it is again:

"Based on the light output of any present day consumer video device, black is going to be black with 100,000:1 contrast."

Now please tell me what PJ is about to come to market that has such extreme brightness that black won't look black on a PJ with 100,000:1 contrast? Or are we just arguing for the sake of arguing here ;)?

Is there a list of movies that have a lot of fade to black scenes. I feel like I'm missing out on something here. What movie is considered to have the best fade to black scene of all time? I'd love to invite some friends over to watch this scene over and over again. :rolleyes:

Recently CARS comes to mind with the very opening sequence when it flashes from bright scenes to complete darkness...really neat affect in the light controlled theater!

I find it very telling that there have been several crt enthusiasts that have gone into the digital forums and been banned from this forum for what they said. Yet the digital folk can come into the CRT forum and stir up whatever they want without even a word from the moderators.

Response:Yes, that's why they were banned. :rolleyes:
If someone is bothering you in this forum... try the report post button.

Of course these are the same moderators/owners who don't just close, but completely delete threads that discuss why and where the CRT enthusiasts have moved onto.

What a sad sad place this has become :(

Yes, I guess AVS should allow forum members to give free advertising for competing forums. Sad indeed... :rolleyes: