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cheapmonkeyz
02-27-07, 07:11 PM
It comes out tomorrow and i will be picking it up. Huge F1 fan. One of the reasons i picked up the PS3.

Post your thoughts/impressions, likes/dislikes about the game here

rahzel
02-27-07, 07:14 PM
kinda off topic, but Gamepro gave it a 5/5!

seems like if you're a racing/f1 fan, youll like it. if not, then you probably won't.

edit: oops, forgot the link:
http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/reviews/101348.shtml

DaveFi
02-27-07, 07:46 PM
No force feedback?

I have a PC too so there are already some killer racing sims that have come out recently. I am more into the arcade type racers, so I'm fairly certain I'll like Motorstorm much more.

SouthFLDan
02-27-07, 07:48 PM
I want to see how F1 will be online. Motorstorm will also be a good game.

DaveFi
02-27-07, 07:55 PM
Are they both playable online, and do they both have BT headset communications? (F1 & Motorstorm that is)

spwolf
02-27-07, 08:22 PM
It comes out tomorrow and i will be picking it up. Huge F1 fan. One of the reasons i picked up the PS3.

Post your thoughts/impressions, likes/dislikes about the game here
thats good news... PSX Exterme gave it 8.7:
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-reviews/22.html

nice... more and more excited...

cheezycheech
02-27-07, 08:35 PM
I will be picking it up also (F1 and Motostorm once it comes out). The playable demo was pretty good. Now I'm hoping they come out with MotoGP soon since I'm a huge for anything on two-wheels. See you online!

GW-SMOkeY
02-27-07, 10:24 PM
Will update you tomorrow. Since my BB wont have it ready for me untill tomorrow :) Yay, first PS3 game other than Marvel, Resistance, and RR...

:D

yakkosmurf
02-27-07, 10:30 PM
I loved the EA F1 game for the PS2. But, after playing the F1 demo on the PS3, I was sorely disappointed. It absolutly sucks. Graphics are PS2ish, and the cars drive terribly. If it's the same as the demo, I'll pass. If you're on the fence, play the demo. (Assuming we're talking about the same game...)

Dralt
02-27-07, 10:46 PM
7.2 at GameSpot, which makes me pause...I will wait for more reviews...


http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/f1/review.html

TwinTurboZX
02-27-07, 11:09 PM
7.2 at GameSpot, which makes me pause...I will wait for more reviews...


http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/f1/review.html

Take gamespot reviews with a sack of salt. They also gave Virtua Fighter 5 a score of 8.1. :rolleyes:

rahzel
02-27-07, 11:18 PM
7.2 at GS is about what i expected from them.

Dralt
02-27-07, 11:27 PM
Take gamespot reviews with a sack of salt. They also gave Virtua Fighter 5 a score of 8.1. :rolleyes:

Actually, I have a lot of respect for their reviews...anytime something scores below 8, it's a great indication of disappointment in the making.

You can't rely on their 9+ scores as much, as they usually don't have the balls to go against the flow with big games like Halo, Gears of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

leehom
02-27-07, 11:33 PM
I loved the EA F1 game for the PS2. But, after playing the F1 demo on the PS3, I was sorely disappointed. It absolutly sucks. Graphics are PS2ish, and the cars drive terribly. If it's the same as the demo, I'll pass. If you're on the fence, play the demo. (Assuming we're talking about the same game...)

Graphics are great, not sure which world your living in. Turn off the "aids" if you want realistic handling.

rahzel
02-28-07, 02:36 AM
Actually, I have a lot of respect for their reviews...anytime something scores below 8, it's a great indication of disappointment in the making.

You can't rely on their 9+ scores as much, as they usually don't have the balls to go against the flow with big games like Halo, Gears of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, etc.
there are a few reviewers there that really seem bias to me. they gave PDZ a 9 and gamerankings has it at 81% (GS being one of the highest scores). VF5 got an 8.1 at GS, game rankings has it at 88% (GS being one of the lowest scores).

Dralt
02-28-07, 02:44 AM
there are a few reviewers there that really seem bias to me. they gave PDZ a 9 and gamerankings has it at 81% (GS being one of the highest scores). VF5 got an 8.1 at GS, game rankings has it at 88% (GS being one of the lowest scores).

As I said, you can't rely on their very high scores, you got to remember who butters their bread.
This being said, you have to pause when they give a low score to a game, because, clearly, no one butters their bread for doing that.

spwolf
02-28-07, 10:27 AM
As I said, you can't rely on their very high scores, you got to remember who butters their bread.
This being said, you have to pause when they give a low score to a game, because, clearly, no one butters their bread for doing that.
problem is someone rating down the game because either they didnt check it for more than 5 minutes (hence game reviewer claiming bad handling, while driving with aids on), or they are not into F1 like GS, and they want sound tracks during practice...

If you are rating the game, they you have to leave your personal bias out and rate the game based on the merits, not the fact that you dont care about F1.

That would be me rating all NFL games 6.0 because I dont care for them.

dark1x
02-28-07, 10:56 AM
You can't rely on their 9+ scores as much, as they usually don't have the balls to go against the flow with big games like Halo, Gears of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, etc.
Sure they do. Most of those games ARE actually very good and deserving of the scores they receive.

Metal Gear Solid 3 received an 8.7 while Zeldas TP received an 8.8. Two AAA games that weren't simply handed top scores.

GW-SMOkeY
02-28-07, 11:56 AM
Actually, I have a lot of respect for their reviews...anytime something scores below 8, it's a great indication of disappointment in the making.

You can't rely on their 9+ scores as much, as they usually don't have the balls to go against the flow with big games like Halo, Gears of War, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, etc.

Whatever yo, you dont have to buy if you don't want to simple as that!

As far as the review goes, ill decide who reviews my game, which should always be me.

BTW both GS and IGN reviewers are not big fans for the F1 racing, and simply dinged the game for a steep learning curve. Again this game is not for everyone so it dosent bother me at all...

ChrisFB
02-28-07, 12:21 PM
As I said, you can't rely on their very high scores, you got to remember who butters their bread.
This being said, you have to pause when they give a low score to a game, because, clearly, no one butters their bread for doing that.

I've long held there was a serious flaw with game ratings. Since no one ever uses any numbers from 0 to 5 or even really 6 I think it would be helpful for a 3rd party site to take each main sites ratings and put them into quintiles or even deciles from lowest to highest (i.e. the top 20% of all games rated for that platform and then 20% blocks down to bottom 20%). That would normalize numbers a lot and then maybe even make a composite number factoring in all sites' quintile rankings for a specific game. That would go a long way in my opinion since nearly every game made is 7 or greater.

That said, the point above holds true. For big releases - very few sites are going to really hammer a game (or let's say give them even an average score, a slight above average is about the worst you generally see). It would have to be brutally attocious. Racing Sim is it's own genre though so I'd expect a lot of deviation. Kind of like Morrowind, some people thought it was horrendous while others thought it one of the best games ever made. More to do with the genre itself (PC style RPG) than it not being a good game. Racing Sims are even more a niche so I'd expect an outlier score or two floating around. If the racing sim fans here don't like it - that would be a major issue.

Dralt
02-28-07, 12:24 PM
problem is someone rating down the game because either they didnt check it for more than 5 minutes (hence game reviewer claiming bad handling, while driving with aids on), or they are not into F1 like GS, and they want sound tracks during practice...

If you are rating the game, they you have to leave your personal bias out and rate the game based on the merits, not the fact that you dont care about F1.

That would be me rating all NFL games 6.0 because I dont care for them.

Human beings don't work like that.
They never did, they never will. There is no other opinion they value more than their own. It doesn't matter if you are the reader of the review or the author.

You should note they expressed their opinion after playing the final version of the game, while people who bash them on this board do so on pure faith or based on a short and outdated demo.

Dralt
02-28-07, 12:32 PM
Sure they do. Most of those games ARE actually very good and deserving of the scores they receive.

Metal Gear Solid 3 received an 8.7 while Zeldas TP received an 8.8. Two AAA games that weren't simply handed top scores.

For every example, you can find an equally valid counter-example:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/tonyhawksproskater3/review.html?sid=2820972
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/review.html?sid=6111345
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/worldofwarcraft/review.html?sid=6114072
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/gearsofwar/review.html?sid=6161188

Those are just a few games that were spared due to their mass popularity.

In a similar way, any site that aims at popularity will avoid bashing:

- iPod
- Wii
- World of Warcraft
- Gears of War

Because these have been accepted as de facto marvels.

Bashing those would lead the masses to tag you as "not cool" and you can't afford that when you depend on page views.

Dralt
02-28-07, 12:35 PM
Whatever yo, you dont have to buy if you don't want to simple as that!

As far as the review goes, ill decide who reviews my game, which should always be me.

BTW both GS and IGN reviewers are not big fans for the F1 racing, and simply dinged the game for a steep learning curve. Again this game is not for everyone so it dosent bother me at all...

You're missing the point of reviews. They are supposed to help you avoid paying good money for bad games.

I'm not saying I won't buy F1, I'm saying this made me pause and I will wait for more opinions or rent it before I buy it.

Andrew67
02-28-07, 02:59 PM
I don't mean to get off topic, but I have a question about F1 and the logitech wheels. Force feedback is a no-show, but is there any provision in the menus for adjusting the resistance and tension in the wheel? I don't want to pick up the game if the wheel is just floppy and loose. I might as well drive with the game pad if that's the case.

cheapmonkeyz
02-28-07, 03:37 PM
both bestbuy and circuit city didnt have the game today. Eb didnt have copys either. I wonder if it was pushed back a few days. I wanted to get a week head start before motorstorm released.

Andrew67
02-28-07, 04:05 PM
Circuit City online has it listed for March 1st.

TheMoose
02-28-07, 04:16 PM
My local BB & CC didn't have any & all thier shipments had been received for today, however I picked one up at EB games, it was the only one they had that wasn't on a hold for a pre order.

I'll probably pop it in tonight & start tinkering with it.

spwolf
02-28-07, 05:04 PM
Human beings don't work like that.
They never did, they never will. There is no other opinion they value more than their own. It doesn't matter if you are the reader of the review or the author.

You should note they expressed their opinion after playing the final version of the game, while people who bash them on this board do so on pure faith or based on a short and outdated demo.
not really, i base my opinion on couple of people who are fans of f1 game that have posted that it is really good f1 game, especially at neogaf forus where ppl have high opinions of it. Plus, there were 3-4 reviews that gave it really good grades on merits.

i also take note at what are the reviewers complaing about. What is the Gamespot's complaint about F1? If you actually read the article, you would think they gave it 8.5-9.

Complaints:
- you have to practice a lot to become good - wow, really?
- there is no sound track (but engine sound is great) - um, i want to listen to stupid sound track in F1 game?
- Friday practices are boring and tedious - umphmpogugs.

What is the complaint that is valid in GS review for it to get 7.2 review? Show it to me please since I cant see it.

Now, if you are NOT an racing fan, and to lower extent F1 fan, then yes, it will probably be boring, but thats very much different. You cant expect it to behave like Motorstrom, which is pure arcade racer designed so you can enjoy crashing your "car"...

GW-SMOkeY
02-28-07, 05:32 PM
You're missing the point of reviews. They are supposed to help you avoid paying good money for bad games.

I'm not saying I won't buy F1, I'm saying this made me pause and I will wait for more opinions or rent it before I buy it.

Fortunately i understand the meaning of those reviews, however I am going to make my opinion now, and also review the game my self. :eek:

I took their opinions also, and also the warnings they said - however my desire to own this game is greater. Which is why I have it right now... :D

I'll make my own decisions in giving this game a score :cool:

Edit: Update - those graphics.... :eek:

kmlm13
02-28-07, 05:43 PM
If you played the demo and you like it, your most likely going to like the full game as well

Dralt
02-28-07, 06:47 PM
Fortunately i understand the meaning of those reviews, however I am going to make my opinion now, and also review the game my self. :eek:

I took their opinions also, and also the warnings they said - however my desire to own this game is greater. Which is why I have it right now... :D

I'll make my own decisions in giving this game a score :cool:

Sure, why not?
At your own expense, you can make any mistake you want.

I prefer to reward responsibly.

Again, I'm not saying the game is bad or anything like that. Based on GameSpot's review, I went from "I can buy this one blindly!" to "Wait a minute...",

elitist
02-28-07, 06:51 PM
Is it true that the retail version does not work with the Logitech MOMO wheel? It worked on the demo.

mvesledahl
02-28-07, 07:07 PM
I bought it at lunch to come home after work and play...

I get home, excited as he&* to turn it on and...

I find the GF watching a Blu-Ray of Babel... My opinion will be posted whenever I get a chance to play

Felgar
02-28-07, 07:59 PM
I took their opinions also, and also the warnings they said - however my desire to own this game is greater. Which is why I have it right now... :D
Do you have a wheel by any chance? Can you confirm how it behaves? Do the gas and brake pedals work, and does it even return to center at all or is it exaclty like the behaviour shown in GTHD? Would very much appreciate your hands-on info.

SouthFLDan
02-28-07, 08:04 PM
Well, just played about 45 minutes single player. Long story short, if you do not like gran turismo, you will not like this. I have been away from GT4 for about 1 year. So it took time to get use to the "real life" controls. I haven't tried online as of yet. This is not a marathon game. My suggestion, rent it first.

DAN

SouthFLDan
02-28-07, 08:55 PM
Just played Online, I LIKE IT. I just wish that you could chat in the menus, or even online with the mic.

Pros
1)Good online play
2)Good Graphics/sound

Cons
1) When someone is joining/leaving an online game it WILL LAG bad; sometimes
2) Good luck finding a game that has 11 racers
3) When collision is on, some people just like to hit you like idiots.

OVERALL
Online capability make this game something you will play more than once.

***Can't wait for Motorstorm***

Andrew67
02-28-07, 08:57 PM
(a) How's the AI. Better than GT I hope.
(b) How does it work with the Logitech FF wheel? Is there any resistance at all applied by the motors or is it always tension free?

Cooknn
02-28-07, 09:39 PM
Single Player with Ghost Laps turned on is SWEET. No steering wheel necessary. I'm driving with the SIXAXIS tilt to steer and R2/L2 for acceleration and braking. Takes some getting used to, but the convenience totally works for me :)

TheMoose
02-28-07, 10:00 PM
My first impression is it's just OK.
Graphics don't seem any better than GT4, Sound is good, it sounds a lot like the in car cameras on TV.

I can't get the sixaxis to work, even when I go in to the control settings & put it on tilt (I think it's "F"), none of the buttons work either & I have the controller set on port 1.

I went to a track I know like the back of my hand from GT4, Monaco.
Not a forgiving track but I know it well, I used my DFP & while there is no FF there is some "friction" in the wheel but on center is very sensitive (read twitchy), I tuned off the steering, brake & trottle help.
It's gonna take me a while to get used to no FF.

Inital impressions I give it a 3 out of 5, I'm sure I'll warm up to it once I get used to steering with no FF & get some time in tweaking the setups.

Noircogi
02-28-07, 10:48 PM
After just a few races into career mode, it seems that the Honda team is doing much better than it should. Perhaps this is just random variance, but I'm thinking Sony boosted the home team a bit.

TheMoose
03-01-07, 03:13 AM
What is up with the lighting in the time trial mode???
It's like trying to drive in a heavy fog in bright sunlight!!
I can't see the track or walls at all in the swimming pool turn in Monaco!
Is there a way to turn this down other than making it rain?

mvesledahl
03-01-07, 09:03 AM
The sun is a factor at every track as far as I can tell. Brazil is another track that I had huge issues with in turn 4 (I think...)

The graphics are good. I've been playing on lap time vs. racing at this point to try and get a feel for the game. I have all assists off except for ABS. The braking is hard to get perfect.

You can adjust just about every aspect of the car ala GT, however I haven't spent much time messing with it.

I was hoping for a bit more of a GT drive feel, but I'll admit as I sit here are work I'm wishing I was home playing it... Something i haven't experienced with the PS3 often since acquiring it.

Dralt
03-01-07, 12:33 PM
Ok, sometimes things happen despite you...my wife bought the game for me before I could react...

I played it for 3 hours yesterday in career mode.

My impressions:

- Very good to beginners, aids really aid you
- Very good to fans, aids can be completely turned off
- Excellent graphics, although speed won't let you pause to notice them fully
- Incredible sensation of speed, I have never experienced such sensation of speed in any prior racing simulation
- Excellent sound effects
- Excellent reproduction of the race preparation process
- Annoying pit stop gameplay
- Some textures in track models lack detail

Overall: 4.5/5

The best racing game I have played in years...even though I am not a fan of this genre.

GW-SMOkeY
03-01-07, 12:36 PM
Update: This game is outstanding... Seriously deep learning curve, but so much options to adjust and work with. ;)

I qualified for the MF1 team my first season, and just finished 2nd in Brahin (SP) a spin out cost me my 1st :rolleyes:

Better luck next time, I spent 1hr of qualifing, and tunning my car with the Evolution.

Currently I have pretty much all the assistance options turned off, the only thing that I am running is Balanced Fuel & Tire wear.

IMO this game is seriously the best F1 racing game to date, it trully goes deep. I love it... I know for a fact, that this is going to be just like Gran Turismo - take some time to beat... Thats for sure!

The actuall race was 6 laps, and according to the team and my setup I can do 1 pit stop and afford to do it on my 3rd lap.

Qualified for Pole Position... Maybe one day, I'll enter the professionals, tell them hey I learned how to be a great driver on PS3 :D

Seriously, I can't wait to play some of you online. :o

GW-SMOkeY
03-01-07, 12:41 PM
(a) How's the AI. Better than GT I hope.
(b) How does it work with the Logitech FF wheel? Is there any resistance at all applied by the motors or is it always tension free?

Ai is very challenging, and you have to understand that I am playing it on easy. They are challenging, dont mistake that.

The Wheel support is great, from the Logitech Pro, to the G25 and another one I currently cant remember.

What i recomend is skip the online, quick trial, gran prix, and get into the career mode.

I am glad SONY has put 10 years of GT practice on me that I can brag about owning this game the first race :D Specially the controls which are better than GT, but use the same concept.

Graphis and SOUND are outstanding...

The depth in career mode is amazing, dont listen to the reviews they had trouble qualifing and going trough one hour of qualifying/tunning their F1 cars.

For hardocore F1 fans, and peeople that enjoy GT style of gaming = IS A GREAT BUY!

GW-SMOkeY
03-01-07, 12:44 PM
The sun is a factor at every track as far as I can tell. Brazil is another track that I had huge issues with in turn 4 (I think...)

The graphics are good. I've been playing on lap time vs. racing at this point to try and get a feel for the game. I have all assists off except for ABS. The braking is hard to get perfect.

You can adjust just about every aspect of the car ala GT, however I haven't spent much time messing with it.

I was hoping for a bit more of a GT drive feel, but I'll admit as I sit here are work I'm wishing I was home playing it... Something i haven't experienced with the PS3 often since acquiring it.

The sun is only there if you are doing the early morning practice run. The actuall events will be troughout the day/rain/overcast...

Sure the sun is anoying, change your view - it should improve, otherwise this is real life like in the morning if you were one of the drivers.

PUT SOME SHADES ON it be better... :cool:

GW-SMOkeY
03-01-07, 12:46 PM
Ok, sometimes things happen despite you...my wife bought the game for me before I could react...

I played it for 3 hours yesterday in career mode.

My impressions:

- Very good to beginners, aids really aid you
- Very good to fans, aids can be completely turned off
- Excellent graphics, although speed won't let you pause to notice them fully
- Incredible sensation of speed, I have never experienced such sensation of speed in any prior racing simulation
- Excellent sound effects
- Excellent reproduction of the race preparation process
- Annoying pit stop gameplay
- Some textures in track models lack detail

Overall: 4.5/5

The best racing game I have played in years...even though I am not a fan of this genre.


Much much better ;)

Se you online my friend :D

Dralt
03-01-07, 12:57 PM
Much much better ;)

Se you online my friend :D

And you thought I could not be objective...

GW-SMOkeY
03-01-07, 01:11 PM
;)

spwolf
03-01-07, 02:10 PM
Ok, sometimes things happen despite you...my wife bought the game for me before I could react...

I played it for 3 hours yesterday in career mode.

My impressions:

- Very good to beginners, aids really aid you
- Very good to fans, aids can be completely turned off
- Excellent graphics, although speed won't let you pause to notice them fully
- Incredible sensation of speed, I have never experienced such sensation of speed in any prior racing simulation
- Excellent sound effects
- Excellent reproduction of the race preparation process
- Annoying pit stop gameplay
- Some textures in track models lack detail

Overall: 4.5/5

The best racing game I have played in years...even though I am not a fan of this genre.
now what do you say about those reviews?

:-)

Dralt
03-01-07, 02:30 PM
now what do you say about those reviews?

:-)

The same.

Glorious reviews mean nothing.
Harsh reviews should make you pause in your urge to buy a game.
You can't go wrong by waiting a week.

:)

ashutoshsm
03-01-07, 02:31 PM
I picked it up on my way home yesterday, and didn't have too much time to play with it, but enjoyed the 20-30 minutes I did.

I tried Time trials/training type stuff, and watched a couple of all-AI races (plenty of bugs in announcements/commentary and ranking info there!)

I'll take you guys' advice and jump into career mode this weekend. Good graphics, great sound, good (but difficult for a newbie) gameplay, yet the aids do help quite a bit. I'll turn them off slowly as I start to get the hang of it!

Definitely a keeper!

Felgar
03-01-07, 03:18 PM
I used my DFP & while there is no FF there is some "friction" in the wheel but on center is very sensitive (read twitchy), I tuned off the steering, brake & trottle help.
Please elaborate... Can you confirm that the experience is different than how GTHD behaves? Can you compare the behaviour of the wheel in each of the two for us? Does the wheel return to center as you leave a corner if you let it go?

The Wheel support is great, from the Logitech Pro, to the G25 and another one I currently cant remember.
Very similar questions as I presented to TheMoose. Please provide more detail if possible, and a comparison to how they behave in GTHD.

Thanks for the feedback guys. This one issue will be the main criteria by which I decide whether or not I'll buy this game.

TheMoose
03-01-07, 05:43 PM
Please elaborate... Can you confirm that the experience is different than how GTHD behaves? Can you compare the behaviour of the wheel in each of the two for us? Does the wheel return to center as you leave a corner if you let it go?
Well in GTHD the motors are in "neutral" that is no friction at all, in F1 there is some friction off center but doesn't really return to center by itself.
It probably seemed more twitchy to me because for the last week or so I'd been playing Need for Speed carbon which does have full FF.
It took me a while to get used to no FF in GTHD & now that I have a few hours in playing F1 it doesn't seem as twitchy off center.

Felgar
03-01-07, 06:02 PM
Thanks a lot Moose. I think I'm starting to understand how it works.

I think I might research a non-FF wheel that would spring back to center for playing this game. Really, return to center and increasing resistance as you move from center is a big step, and then another big step is actual reactive FF from the gameplay itself. The game looks so good and I like racing sims so much I think I could live with just resistance and return to center.

TheMoose
03-01-07, 06:05 PM
Thanks a lot Moose. I think I'm starting to understand how it works.

I think I might research a non-FF wheel that would spring back to center for playing this game. Really, return to center and increasing resistance as you move from center is a big step, and then another big step is actual reactive FF from the gameplay itself. The game looks so good and I like racing sims so much I think I could live with just resistance and return to center.

I don't think this will be a problem for long, Sony & imersion reach an agreement (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070301/sfth075.html?.v=79)


I'm betting there will be downloadable patches for FF in already released games!

Andrew67
03-01-07, 07:44 PM
Well in GTHD the motors are in "neutral" that is no friction at all, in F1 there is some friction off center but doesn't really return to center by itself.
It probably seemed more twitchy to me because for the last week or so I'd been playing Need for Speed carbon which does have full FF.

I agree with all of what you wrote. The game is in desperate need of more resistance, but it's not as bad as GTHD. Some other observations... The lighting effects make the game almost undriveable @ Melbourne during time trial mode. Is lighting dependent on the internal clock? If not, this is a huge problem. The game doesn't look as good as GTHD. It could use more bump mapping on the textures to add to the realism. Turning off driving aids does up the difficulty nicely. I've spent most of my time running off the track so I can't comment on the AI. There doesn't appear to be any rubberband logic, but it's too early to tell.

All in all it's not bad, I'd say the metacritic reviews rate it fairly well. It's an 80%-85% game if there ever was one. A force feedback patch would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

woodface
03-02-07, 04:17 PM
I've been playing the Japanese version for months now. My US version doesn't come until Monday. One of the best parts of this game is when you make it through an entire season on Easy, and then start another season on Medium difficulty. Wow what a difference. You have to practice a track and get your braking and entrance/exit points down in order to qualify well.

Some tracks are easier to do this than others. I finally gave up and skipped Australia because it was so hard. My very best time in Alonso's Renault was only good enough for 15th in qualifying, and this is after winning previous races by 5-10 seconds on the same difficulty level. I generally don't skip any race, but I was getting really mad and didn't want to start throwing stuff. The biggest bitch in qualifying is not getting a good time in early. You'll be stuck in traffic and wishing you could pump your fist out the cockpit. Greatly satisfying game though-- especially for real F1 fans.

GW-SMOkeY
03-02-07, 04:26 PM
I've been playing the Japanese version for months now. My US version doesn't come until Monday. One of the best parts of this game is when you make it through an entire season on Easy, and then start another season on Medium difficulty. Wow what a difference. You have to practice a track and get your braking and entrance/exit points down in order to qualify well.

Some tracks are easier to do this than others. I finally gave up and skipped Australia because it was so hard. My very best time in Alonso's Renault was only good enough for 15th in qualifying, and this is after winning previous races by 5-10 seconds on the same difficulty level. I generally don't skip any race, but I was getting really mad and didn't want to start throwing stuff. The biggest bitch in qualifying is not getting a good time in early. You'll be stuck in traffic and wishing you could pump your fist out the cockpit. Greatly satisfying game though-- especially for real F1 fans.

everything you just said... :D ;)

GW-SMOkeY
03-02-07, 04:27 PM
I agree with all of what you wrote. The game is in desperate need of more resistance, but it's not as bad as GTHD. Some other observations... The lighting effects make the game almost undriveable @ Melbourne during time trial mode. Is lighting dependent on the internal clock? If not, this is a huge problem. The game doesn't look as good as GTHD. It could use more bump mapping on the textures to add to the realism. Turning off driving aids does up the difficulty nicely. I've spent most of my time running off the track so I can't comment on the AI. There doesn't appear to be any rubberband logic, but it's too early to tell.

All in all it's not bad, I'd say the metacritic reviews rate it fairly well. It's an 80%-85% game if there ever was one. A force feedback patch would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath.

Try with the shades ;)

ashutoshsm
03-02-07, 05:17 PM
This is going to make me sound like a complete PS2 (and PS3) Luddite (which I AM) ... but which specific steering wheel models should I consider as a decent (not break-the-bank-expensive) for my PS3 F1 and for (in the future) GT % and of course Motorstorm?

And how does one connect them to the PS3? Front USB? Is the adapter included 9since all these wheels are labelled as PS2 wheels)!

Whew. Flame away at my PS2/connector ignorance :)

Andrew67
03-02-07, 05:34 PM
This is going to make me sound like a complete PS2 (and PS3) Luddite (which I AM) ... but which specific steering wheel models should I consider as a decent (not break-the-bank-expensive) for my PS3 F1 and for (in the future) GT % and of course Motorstorm?

I believe both of the two PS2 specific wheels by Logitech are supported (DF and DF Pro) as is the top of the line G25. The DF Pro is a nice compromise but if I were to buy another wheel it would be the G25. In addition to the DF Pro, I have the limited edition MOMO (Logitech) but haven't tried it with the PS3. It would not work with the PS2.

All of the Logitech wheels are USB.

ashutoshsm
03-02-07, 06:11 PM
I believe both of the two PS2 specific wheels by Logitech are supported (DF and DF Pro) as is the top of the line G25. The DF Pro is a nice compromise but if I were to buy another wheel it would be the G25. In addition to the DF Pro, I have the limited edition MOMO (Logitech) but haven't tried it with the PS3. It would not work with the PS2.

All of the Logitech wheels are USB.

Thanks much!

(I *should* probably take this offline, but for now, here goes ...
The local CompUSA is clearancing (they're slated to be closed) and has the DF Pro for $99 -10% (or perhaps -20%). So $80ish hopefully.
Also, someone locally is selling a gently used (yeah right) DF for $40ish.

Should I buy either of these (likely the cheap used one for now) and wait for a better solution to present itself - now that Sony CAN use Force Feedback/rumble etc etc again (there might be something better released soon)?

FYI, the COMPUSA has the Momo Logitech, and DID have it labelled as PS2 compatible. AFAIRemember, anyway! I can double check this weekend (if it isn't sold out). $150-20% I think.

Andrew67
03-02-07, 06:38 PM
(I *should* probably take this offline, but for now, here goes ...
The local CompUSA is clearancing (they're slated to be closed) and has the DF Pro for $99 -10% (or perhaps -20%). So $80ish hopefully.

FYI, the COMPUSA has the Momo Logitech, and DID have it labelled as PS2 compatible. AFAIRemember, anyway! I can double check this weekend (if it isn't sold out). $150-20% I think.

All of the CompUSA's in Atlanta are shutting down too. $80 for the DF Pro is a good deal, I'd go with that. I'd be nervous about a used wheel because they do contain parts that wear down.

Logitech has released two wheels under the MOMO moniker. I have an older, leather wrapped wheel. The newer MOMO is rubber and plastic. I don't know if either will work so I'd stick with the DF Pro. Which is as far as I know, is either very similar or simply a rebadged MOMO/rubber.

I don't see anything new coming out in the near future. Since the G25 is relatively new and supported on the PS3, that's about new as you're going to get for a year or two.

GW-SMOkeY
03-02-07, 06:41 PM
Alright anyone for a quick test run? Full Grid, I am wondering if this CABLE + PS3 = Some serious buisness...

Mcklein
03-02-07, 07:13 PM
Thank you for the reviews ..ill should be getting the game this weekend...

dhan
03-02-07, 11:07 PM
Hi guys,

just bought the game and played a few quick races. Control feels way too tight with both the controller and the logitech DFP wheel. Is there a way to adjust steering sensitivity in the game?

cheapmonkeyz
03-04-07, 08:30 AM
I'm loving this game. I will be trying online very soon. I want to practice a lot more first and start the career mode too.

GW-SMOkeY
03-04-07, 09:19 AM
Career is outstanding! The Australian Circuit was the hardest so far, still doing my first season. I love how in depth the game goes once you start Career, it really makes you feel that you are part of F1 racing.

henningh
03-05-07, 02:26 PM
I'm a big F1 fan, and I have an old F1 game for the PS2 that a friend and I still play. So I was quite looking forward to F1 Championship Edition. While it does a lot of things quite well, here are my gripes:

MAJOR Gripes:

:mad: No splitscreen support!
:mad: You can drive THROUGH computer players online!
:mad: LAG. Quite bad. Embarrassing to show my friend.

MINOR Gripes:

:( The online lobby is a bit confusing. When does a game start?
:( Long load times. Especially going from main menu to online menu. Why?
:( No voice chat support.
:( Nobody else complains about lack of splitscreen support. :p
:( People can jump out of games and then back in to improve their position. (I think.)

I really really wanted to like this game. But there are a lot of annoying things about it, so I won't be playing it as much as I otherwise would. I'm not the kind of guy who likes playing video games solo, so online and splitscreen were very important to me.

Score: 6.5 / 10

henning

shook2323
03-05-07, 04:22 PM
Question for you guys.

In career, specifically the different testing sessions when you have to beat the target time 3 consecutive laps, after you beat the time 3 laps in a row, do you have to do anything special.

I swear I've beat the time 3 laps in a row a few times now in the different testing sessions, and I just keep lapping until the time runs out, and then it says I failed the test.

Do I have to come in the pits after I beat the target time 3 in a row or some thing, or, am I just wrong and really bad/slow at the game?

Gotta get me a wheel now, I do like the game.

ashutoshsm
03-06-07, 12:37 PM
Ooohh - no splitscreen IS a big flaw! I was planning on buying a new controller or wheel, and assumed two-player would be possible.

mvesledahl
03-06-07, 04:40 PM
When you're running the tests to get signed up for a team make sure you're not going off course, or cutting corners. If your current time in the upper right corner has a red box around it, that lap won't count because you cut a corner etc...

Andrew67
03-06-07, 04:47 PM
MAJOR Gripes:

:mad: No splitscreen support!
:mad: You can drive THROUGH computer players online!
:mad: LAG. Quite bad. Embarrassing to show my friend.
Score: 6.5 / 10

My biggest grip is the lighting during the testing sessions and the time trials. This is absolutely the worst use of dynamic lighting that I've ever seen in a game. It wouldn't be bad if it was configurable, but as it is it severely limits the gameplay. The flare effects in Ubisoft's F1 Racing Simulation were annoying, but Sony's use of lighting is horrendous.

Noircogi
03-06-07, 05:52 PM
In career, specifically the different testing sessions when you have to beat the target time 3 consecutive laps, after you beat the time 3 laps in a row, do you have to do anything special.

I swear I've beat the time 3 laps in a row a few times now in the different testing sessions, and I just keep lapping until the time runs out, and then it says I failed the test.

None of your three consecutive laps can be "red". Any times scored with corner-cutting or significant off-track excursions will be invalid. I'll bet that's what you've been running into.

shook2323
03-07-07, 11:29 AM
None of your three consecutive laps can be "red". Any times scored with corner-cutting or significant off-track excursions will be invalid. I'll bet that's what you've been running into.

You're correct, thanks.

Tele-TV
11-18-07, 01:41 PM
Sorry to revive an old thread. I've been searching and searching (Google and here), but I can't get a clear answer.
I will be buying the wheel very soon, regardless.

KBSA007 over at the Euro PS Community said:

"First we have to update the system with the version 1.94, and then await the patch of the game to give the function RUMBLE to DS3 and FFB for WHEELS."

http://community.eu.playstation.com/showthread.php?t=127700&page=13

Can anyone confirm that a patch is in the works? And when it might be available?

TIA!

awx
11-19-07, 02:13 AM
It's been reported at several places that a patch is coming. This is a Sony game so it's all but a certainty that it'll get patched for rumble and probably for Home too.

Tele-TV
11-19-07, 11:21 AM
^^

Thank-you so much awd. Now we just have to play the waiting game.

robertc88
12-17-07, 02:14 PM
Bought this used at a local Gamestop. I like racing and I'm by no means an avid gamer. Just tried the time trial and quick race and I like it so far.

I was planning on renting it at a local Blockbuster but it is always out. Think I'm glad I bought it for now at least from what I've seen. I need all the help I can get and the driving aids and racing line sure helps us novices!

rcase13
12-17-07, 08:26 PM
Whatever happen to using the PSP as a rear view mirror?