Heads Up ... not sure what it does just yet .

--- Jason

I just logged off and didn't even see it. Back in I go. I guess I need to log off first. Thanks for the heads up.

I was just about to post this. I'm updating as I type.

we'll see what's new when they update their page tomorrow (oops I meant today)!

im guessing just bug fixes until the big March update.

Heads Up ... not sure what it does just yet .

--- Jason

Just finished watching "Open Season". As soon as the movie finished and I exited playback of the BD, it told me about the update. Glad it at least waits until the movie finishes.. I had my first hiccup though occur this time in the middle of the movie. The screen went black for about 5 seconds as if it had an HDMI connection issue.. First time that has happened. Hope its nothing serious..

I'll have to check this out tomorrow (today?). I'm about ready for bed now and I don't want to turn on the projector to update. It's probably not much with the small increment in version number, but we'll see.

Thanks. I must've just missed it. Another mystery update. :rolleyes:

Doing it now, and it is going quick. Less than 10 min. update. maybe not that much to it. Nobody knows squat over at the PSN forum. All sorts of speculation as usual.

Okay, well the 720p - > 1080i scaling still isn't there and my HDCP handshake issues are still very present. Oh well. :(

Most likely a fix for the blu-ray freeze ups caused by 1.5. Don't have time to test it tonight.

No problems here playing a DVD after 1.54. But I haven't had any DVD or Blu-Ray freezing before the update.

No problems here since installing 1.54 (been running about 2 hours playing R:FoM) .

--- Jason

I played blu-ray The Covenant before the update and got several freezes. After the update went to the same locations on the disk and no freezes. 1st guess is that it seems to help blu-ray playback in general.

Something to do with chat feature and having your display icon pictured...

I can confirm that 1.54 did not make me more attractive to women.

System software version 1.54 includes the following new and revised features:

The image of the person you are chatting with during video chat can now be changed to match the screen size.

You can now use a USB camera compatible with USB video class (UVC) for video chat.

* For information on supported models and usage instructions, contact the retailer where the cameras are sold.

Played through an entire BD movie with no problems ( but then I did not have any playback issues with 1.5 or 1.51 ) . Seems stable so far , not a single hiccup after over 4 hours of continuous use .

---- Jason

Will be interesting to see what it does.

System software version 1.54 includes the following new and revised features:

The image of the person you are chatting with during video chat can now be changed to match the screen size.

You can now use a USB camera compatible with USB video class (UVC) for video chat.

* For information on supported models and usage instructions, contact the retailer where the cameras are sold.


Looks like a copy and paste to me. Perhaps from the us.playstation.com site.

^^ looks to me like any USB camera might work since it is not specifying the eyetoy camera as it did previously.

Correction. NOT working. just tried it.

No freezes while watching the first 20 minutes of Goodfellas with my WiFi connection on. Seems like it is fixed.

got my hopes up for using any usb camera, boooo

Can anyone test if this corrects the BTB and white clipping issue?

yay! Another useless update!

1.6 is said to have background downloading. Too bad it cuts off the download when you play games. At least they are trying...

yay! Another useless update!

Stop being so myopic. Just because it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it's worthless. Grow up. :rolleyes:

no sense of humor... :rolleyes:

I am confused regarding the camera usage... How do you use it? Obviously it requires softwre to run. I wasn't aware of any functionalities within the XMB to initiate a chat, let alone a video chat.... Has anyone tried this yet?

Stop being so myopic. Just because it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it's worthless. Grow up. :rolleyes:

I agree, sarcasm isnt always appriciated.

no sense of humor... :rolleyes:


Sorry, I've gotten used to people saying moronic things on this board and being completely serious.

I am confused regarding the camera usage... How do you use it? Obviously it requires softwre to run. I wasn't aware of any functionalities within the XMB to initiate a chat, let alone a video chat.... Has anyone tried this yet?


I have used the video chat since launch. all you have to to is plug the camera in.
no extra software needed.
you just choose someone from the friends list and start chatting. You can change your 'accessory setting' to have the audio from the chat come through your speakers or through a headset. It ridiculously easy.

if the person on the other end doesn't have a camera attached, they will see your image on their screen, while you will just see their avatar.

I've experienced 10-second intermittent freezes on blu-ray movies (not games) ever since Update 1.5 and later 1.51.

I will play 4 blu-ray movies in a row today and check if this update helps the freezing.

Will report back tonight.

My guess is that we will see something new on the online store tomorrow (Thursday). Other than the two things that were already metnioned that this update changes, ususally when there is an update there is something new at the store right after. Curious to see if there is an update for the PSP as well which would mean there is a new PS1 game coming.

I almost bought a used Eye Toy yesterday just to use for video chat but then thought I would just wait until the HD version comes out for the PS3. It is nice to see the video chat functionality is there right out of the box.
JD

I looooooove updates :D

Maybe your cam is junk, and not supported? ;)

I agree, sarcasm isnt always appriciated.


These updates are very useful! For some reason, my PS3 mysteriously breaks, and won't let me get online to PS Store. Then, just in time, the update comes. And it fixes this issue.

Thank you Sony!!!

These updates are very useful! For some reason, my PS3 mysteriously breaks, and won't let me get online to PS Store. Then, just in time, the update comes. And it fixes this issue.

Thank you Sony!!!

Now that was funny. :)

I heart updates....:)

WOOO HOOOO!!!!!
no hicups!!
joooyyyyyy!!!! :o

Damn it! It still won't recognize my virtual sex devices! I was told by Sony that this update would allow me to use my Vibra-max 3000. Lies!

Fixed the freezing issue for me using a Wifi enabled 60gb PS3.

Damn it! It still won't recognize my virtual sex devices! I was told by Sony that this update would allow me to use my Vibra-max 3000. Lies!

They made it quite clear that only USC (USB Sex Class) devices would work. :rolleyes: Stop bashing Sony for everything and spreading FUD!

:D

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates

Lets hope the update helps support Tekken 5 DR online play. We'll have to wait until tomorrow.

I am confused regarding the camera usage... How do you use it? Obviously it requires softwre to run. I wasn't aware of any functionalities within the XMB to initiate a chat, let alone a video chat.... Has anyone tried this yet?

Just go to a friend and hit triangle. Then go to "start a new chat" or something like that. Then they just have to hit join. Never tried video chat.

I have used the video chat since launch. all you have to to is plug the camera in.
no extra software needed.
you just choose someone from the friends list and start chatting. You can change your 'accessory setting' to have the audio from the chat come through your speakers or through a headset. It ridiculously easy.

if the person on the other end doesn't have a camera attached, they will see your image on their screen, while you will just see their avatar.

Now try and invite your friend your chatting with to play a game with you. That's the real issue for me. From any screen of function we are in, we should be able to view our friends and invite them to a game.

That sounds awesome though, I'm going to try out my cam tonight on it but for got sakes make an easy way to invite friends to going games with you!

SO glad the appear to have fixed the freeze issue with BD playback. I'm going to try it out tonight.

So will the 360 usb Camera work on the PS3 now ;) ?

I knew they would not announce a BD playback fix even if they fixed it (lol) .

--- Jason

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates


was there really a pressing need for these "features" right now? this is what i just don't get about sony. they go through the trouble to release a fw update that basically does NOTHING, when they have a supposedly much larger release a few weeks away. couldn't they have added these things then?

it just seems they go out of their way to whip their fans into a frenzy and watch as their hopes are dashed and stepped on. f'n sony...

Anyone have a list of USB cameras compliant with USB video class?

was there really a pressing need for these "features" right now? this is what i just don't get about sony. they go through the trouble to release a fw update that basically does NOTHING, when they have a supposedly much larger release a few weeks away. couldn't they have added these things then?

it just seems they go out of their way to whip their fans into a frenzy and watch as their hopes are dashed and stepped on. f'n sony...

Well, for one thing, sometimes Sony adds features or fixes and doesn't report them on the Update Firmware FAQ.

For example... I already played 2 blu-ray movies this afternoon, and so far, no freezes. I've been experiencing freezes on blu-ray movies ever since Update 1.5 which came out last month.

All I'm saying is, give them a friggin' chance. I'm sure by this time next month, all will be well.

Well, for one thing, sometimes Sony adds features or fixes and doesn't report them on the Update Firmware FAQ.


there's a problem right there then. what's with all the cloak and dagger crap? if they fix something, then fix it and put it in a changelog. that's how the internet works. after positioning the ps3 as the world's most powerful computer, the least they should know is that :mad:

These updates are very useful! For some reason, my PS3 mysteriously breaks, and won't let me get online to PS Store. Then, just in time, the update comes. And it fixes this issue.

Thank you Sony!!!

:rolleyes:

Its just that the update seems rather trivial. I'm always for new updates and fixes, but I can't believe this was on the top priority or hot burner issue.

**********1.54 issue***************(not anymore , read bottom of post.)

Is it just me or did we lose the ability to "copy" saved games to other devices. I always copy my mem card save of God of war and all my other saved games to a flash stick in case someting happends and I lose it or goof it. When I pick copy now it doesnt do anything.

I hope to god its a goof as I find this extremely important!


EDIT: Im ok. It won't let you when a song is playing but if I stopped the music it works. Im so relieved!

Its just that the update seems rather trivial. I'm always for new updates and fixes, but I can't believe this was on the top priority or hot burner issue.
dont update it then.

I love frequent updates since they improve things every month and you dont have to wait.
If you dont like it, please dont use it.

Certainly adding new features and fixing issues shouldnt be something to complain about, but apperantly, when it comes to PS3, ppl think they should complain about everything....

Its just that the update seems rather trivial. I'm always for new updates and fixes, but I can't believe this was on the top priority or hot burner issue.
Clearly the hot burner issue was fixing BD playback before credible reviews started circulating that coud damage the pretty good reputation the PS3 had built up in terms of BD playback. Probably the webcam fix was all they had ready to go by the time they solved the freezing issue so they had to include just so they'd have something to include as an official reason for the patch. It all comes down to Sony not wanting anyone to talk about the issue, and never admitting there ever even was an issue. Kind of underhanded yes, but it makes sense in Sony's (slightly twisted) view, IMO.

Yeah how dare they fix bugs. :rolleyes:

Clearly the hot burner issue was fixing BD playback before credible reviews started circulating that coud damage the pretty good reputation the PS3 had built up in terms of BD playback. Probably the webcam fix was all they had ready to go by the time they solved the freezing issue so they had to include just so they'd have something to include as an official reason for the patch. It all comes down to Sony not wanting anyone to talk about the issue, and never admitting there ever even was an issue. Kind of underhanded yes, but it makes sense in Sony's (slightly twisted) view, IMO.
thats not really how it works... separate features/updates are branched so you are able to add them as you go.

From our (developer/manager) view, it is always good to add extra features when you can.

As to Sony "admitting" the issue, I am not really sure what should they do. Should they post it as an warning before you buy PS3 or something? What?

Should MS give you an warning that your 360 has 80% of chance breaking within 12 months?

What company does that? Please do tell. I know if Sony officially mentioned it, 5000000000 blog kids would claim PS3 burned someone's house. Only thing they could do is fix it, and they did.

I have high hopes for 1.6 update. I wish they would just stop mucking around with these whistles and bells and give focus on the biggest complaints:

1. 1080i support (I don't have this problem with my SXRD XBR2...
2. Upscale DVD playback.
3. Upscale games to 1080P based on user selection.
4. Multi-tasking
5. Fix the browser so it'll stop nagging me on every single page, every single time about displaying the contents on that page!!!!! This makes it almost unusable.

Clearly the hot burner issue was fixing BD playback before credible reviews started circulating that coud damage the pretty good reputation the PS3 had built up in terms of BD playback. Probably the webcam fix was all they had ready to go by the time they solved the freezing issue so they had to include just so they'd have something to include as an official reason for the patch. It all comes down to Sony not wanting anyone to talk about the issue, and never admitting there ever even was an issue. Kind of underhanded yes, but it makes sense in Sony's (slightly twisted) view, IMO.

Like it or not, this is what so called "trivial" updates are about. BD freeze issues occurred after the previous update(s). Since Sony is unwilling to be forthcoming on there being an actual issue, Sony certainly isn't going to release an update stating a BD fix. Even though this issue does/did not affect everyone, it is still a big issue for Sony seeing that the PS3 as a BD device is important in it's marketing. Therefore, there can't just be an update for no reason so they find something to update along with the BD freeze issue and viola. With the big update still weeks away, it does/did serve Sony well to fix the freeze issue asap by releasing an "not-so-important" update.

As to Sony "admitting" the issue, I am not really sure what should they do. Should they post it as an warning before you buy PS3 or something? What?

No, they could simply make a note on the webpage with the other fixes that BD playback freezing for some users (introduced in update 1.50) has been corrected.

I have high hopes for 1.6 update. I wish they would just stop mucking around with these whistles and bells and give focus on the biggest complaints:

1. 1080i support (I don't have this problem with my SXRD XBR2...
2. Upscale DVD playback.
3. Upscale games to 1080P based on user selection.
4. Multi-tasking
5. Fix the browser so it'll stop nagging me on every single page, every single time about displaying the contents on that page!!!!! This makes it almost unusable.
Nah, you are wrong.

1. Cook lunch
2. Do laundry
3....

1080i problem will be solved in games that chose to support it, such as VF5... DVD upscaling, why? Upscaling games to 1080p, impossible. Multi-tasking is aleady planned.

besides, if you have 1080p display, it is already upscaled by it :-).

I have high hopes for 1.6 update. I wish they would just stop mucking around with these whistles and bells and give focus on the biggest complaints:

1. 1080i support (I don't have this problem with my SXRD XBR2...
2. Upscale DVD playback.
3. Upscale games to 1080P based on user selection.
4. Multi-tasking
5. Fix the browser so it'll stop nagging me on every single page, every single time about displaying the contents on that page!!!!! This makes it almost unusable.
1. agree. although it is not an issue for the majority of HDTV owners.
2. upscaling does not make much of a difference. my ps3 hooked up through DVI looks better than my LG upconverting DVD player upscaling to 720p. digital, imo, looks better (cleaner and sharper) than analog component.
3. again, upscaling makes little to no difference. if the game is rendered in 720p, it will not look much better upconverted to 1080p. your set basically is upconverting the image already.
4. multi-tasking is coming with 1.6
5. i guess i agree.

what i want to be updated, is the compatibility with HDTV's (handshaking issues and sometimes losing signal).

WRT upscaling for DVDs (which also affects much SD content on BDs), I just want to not have to switch modes on my display for 4:3 content, and I want fewer handshakes to have to be performed.

The 10 seconds freeze has not been fixed. Watched Departed today after the 1.54 with a big 10 seconds freeze. Wireless connection was enabled. Never had any single freeze before the 1.51.

Sergio

Like it or not, this is what so called "trivial" updates are about. BD freeze issues occurred after the previous update(s). Since Sony is unwilling to be forthcoming on there being an actual issue, Sony certainly isn't going to release an update stating a BD fix. Even though this issue does/did not affect everyone, it is still a big issue for Sony seeing that the PS3 as a BD device is important in it's marketing. Therefore, there can't just be an update for no reason so they find something to update along with the BD freeze issue and viola. With the big update still weeks away, it does/did serve Sony well to fix the freeze issue asap by releasing an "not-so-important" update.

Some people are really get bent out of shape over my use of trivial. If you look at the big issues or things that "Could" have been added, they chose web cam support. To me that is trivial at this point in time considering what little games are available for the PS3.

Not to mention background downloading from the marketplace which I think would be considered to be a better add on with the current state of the PS3.

It isn't like there are only 2 guys working on firmware updates to the PS3. There are probably many different teams working on different problems and features. They all have different deadlines and if some finish early and QA checks out, why not release it as a seperate update? Besides, every time they release an update, it brings out a news story is written and attention is brought back to the PS3...now with a new feature.

But here's to hoping the March update is a big one that we are all expecting. :)

1. agree. although it is not an issue for the majority of HDTV owners.
2. upscaling does not make much of a difference. my ps3 hooked up through DVI looks better than my LG upconverting DVD player upscaling to 720p. digital, imo, looks better (cleaner and sharper) than analog component.
3. again, upscaling makes little to no difference. if the game is rendered in 720p, it will not look much better upconverted to 1080p. your set basically is upconverting the image already.
4. multi-tasking is coming with 1.6
5. i guess i agree.

what i want to be updated, is the compatibility with HDTV's (handshaking issues and sometimes losing signal).

1. I disagree. I would say majority of the HDTV sets out there are CRT based that does not support 720P. Like I said I have no problem with this, but only putting this out on behalf of all the frustrated people out there. I feel your pain!
2. I disagree. Upscaling makes a big difference. I have a modded XBOX w/ XBMC running on it. When I play my DVDs on there, it upscales it to 1080i. The quality over component cables vs. my PS3 HDMI simply doesn't compare. At least until I can build up my blue-ray library, DVD upscaling is highly desirable.
3. Maybe your right.... 720P rendered upscaled to 1080P doesn't really make a difference in quality as far as I can tell so far... We'll just have to wait and see.
4. Multitasking from what I hear doesn't work while playing games. Although it's better than no multitasking at all, but what can you possibly be doing with your PS3 while something is being downloaded? I hope this would fix this in the future updates.
5. I am glad you agree!

Not to mention background downloading from the marketplace which I think would be considered to be a better add on with the current state of the PS3.

Although this would be nice, Sony has made it clear that some updates will happen with the 'Major' update in March. They aren't going to release these sooner even if ready. Therefore, they have to package hidden fixes with something tangible. It's all about marketing and misdirection for big corporations.

The 10 seconds freeze has not been fixed. Watched Departed today after the 1.54 with a big 10 seconds freeze. Wireless connection was enabled. Never had any single freeze before the 1.51.

Sergio

I watched my 3rd blu-ray movie today (after updating to 1.54). No freezes yet.

Your post indicates there still might be a problem. I'll keep watching more blu-rays to confirm. I have The Departed, so I'll give it another go tomorrow.

FYI - I'm using a wireless PS3 60GB model.

Just finished watching The Prestige after doing the 1.54 update and had the most freezes ever. For me it started with 1.51 and continues through the 1.54 update. This is getting extremely annoying. The Prestige was almost unwatchable, I think I had five freezes all together during the movie. Also using wireless PS3 60GB.

If your display has a good scaler then the lack of DVD upscaling by the PS3 is really no biggie.
My very well regarded oppo 971 upscaling to 720P vs. the PS3 doing 480P over HDMI and letting my Mits FP upscale it looks identical. I have a monoprice HDMI switcher so I could instantly A/B compare on several DVDs I have 2 copies of. Looks the same.
Now, if your display has a crap scaler, should've gotten a better display...

Just finished watching The Prestige after doing the 1.54 update and had the most freezes ever. For me it started with 1.51 and continues through the 1.54 update. This is getting extremely annoying. The Prestige was almost unwatchable, I think I had five freezes all together during the movie. Also using wireless PS3 60GB.


What do you mean it freezes? Do you have to turn off the unit and turn it back on?

Just finished watching The Prestige after doing the 1.54 update and had the most freezes ever. For me it started with 1.51 and continues through the 1.54 update. This is getting extremely annoying. The Prestige was almost unwatchable, I think I had five freezes all together during the movie. Also using wireless PS3 60GB.


must be your system somewere in the line.

i just did the same and had no freezes.

The 10 seconds freeze has not been fixed. Watched Departed today after the 1.54 with a big 10 seconds freeze. Wireless connection was enabled. Never had any single freeze before the 1.51.

Sergio

Just finished watching The Prestige after doing the 1.54 update and had the most freezes ever. For me it started with 1.51 and continues through the 1.54 update. This is getting extremely annoying. The Prestige was almost unwatchable, I think I had five freezes all together during the movie. Also using wireless PS3 60GB.

Yes, I spoke too soon. This update doesn't fix the blu-ray freezing with WiFi issues. Same problem, same solution: sign out of your PSN account. Sony's let this go on far too long, very disappointing.

I can confirm that 1.54 did not make me more attractive to women.


LMFAO!! Best post yet!!! Kudos dude.

i dont have to sign out on my ps3 i dont get freeze ups.

I don't know if this helps anyone or not. When I watch a DVD or BD movie, my system auto signs out at when movie play begins. It must, because when I turn the movie off the first thing that happens is my PS3 says it is signing in under my master account name. Again, I wonder if it is as simple as some settings people have chosen for auto sign or not to the PS3 network. If anything someone like me with auto sign in should have an issue. It would be interesting to compare preferences for how we have our PS3's set up. It might help those that are having the freeze issue as it might be as simple as a preference setting.

Same here Hughmc. No freezing issues, and it always signs me out when I start watchin a BD movie

Only thing I've noticed is that im getting controller disconnects now. Never had this happen before this update. I was playing resistance offline campaign last night and it happened at least 3 times in 3 hours.

I don't know if this helps anyone or not. When I watch a DVD or BD movie, my system auto signs out at when movie play begins. It must, because when I turn the movie off the first thing that happens is my PS3 says it is signing in under my master account name. Again, I wonder if it is as simple as some settings people have chosen for auto sign or not to the PS3 network. If anything someone like me with auto sign in should have an issue. It would be interesting to compare preferences for how we have our PS3's set up. It might help those that are having the freeze issue as it might be as simple as a preference setting.You're probably right. That seems to be what's happening. I started watching The Prestige last night while signed in. When it froze on me I quit to the XMB and noticed I was signed out and it was trying to sign me back in.

-----------------------------------
Here's my settings with the freezing issue:

2 user accounts. Main user is set to "automatic login" > On

Under my PSN settings (where your PSN avatar is displayed) the option "auto sign-in off" is grayed out and can't be selected.
-----------------------------------

I've deleted the second user since I wasn't really using it anyway. The "automatic login" option is gone now from the main account. The PSN option for "auto sign-in off" is still grayed out for me though. Not sure if this will fix the problem or not.

I'm starting to think that the freezing on some systems with Wireless and not on others has to be how individuals have their wireless configured.

No freezing:
What router? What configuration, security etc?

Same for people who have freezing problems, maybe we'll see a pattern.

ordinarily i welcome firmware updates with open arms, big ones or small ones. but maybe i wouldn't get so upset over a small one like this if sony didn't make upgrading such a freaking ordeal. sit through a longer than usual download, then you have to plug the controller in using that ridiculously short usb cable they provide. so i'm left standing there while the update happens or else let the controller dangle in front of my tv screen. can someone give me a good explanation as to why sony makes you plug the controller in for each and every update?

ordinarily i welcome firmware updates with open arms, big ones or small ones. but maybe i wouldn't get so upset over a small one like this if sony didn't make upgrading such a freaking ordeal. sit through a longer than usual download, then you have to plug the controller in using that ridiculously short usb cable they provide. so i'm left standing there while the update happens or else let the controller dangle in front of my tv screen. can someone give me a good explanation as to why sony makes you plug the controller in for each and every update?

Yes. Because they were in a rush and didn't think it through. Why its still like that is because not enough people have complained.

It's annoying for me, but I have easy access. I dont actually like the constant updates. I did at first, until I realized these updates are not providing much. I'd rather have big updates every couple months and have the minor updates only fix glitches and problems. What they should do is like microsoft has on windows. Update in the background automatically if you select the option to do so, then tell us when its ready to install. Another mindless option would be for them to tell us what the update actually does :confused:

I wish they could give us some behind the scenes blog or something to tell us what they are actually working on and took users opinions to heart.

Only thing I've noticed is that im getting controller disconnects now. Never had this happen before this update. I was playing resistance offline campaign last night and it happened at least 3 times in 3 hours.

I have had a few of those myself and it always seems to happen at the worst possible moment leaving me spinning in place as the enemy takes me out :( . I hope they can get this BT controller issue fixed asap , it's going to suck if it happens while playing Motorstorm online .

--- Jason

I too would like the PS3 to upscale SD DVDs. Implicit in this desire is the optimism that the PS3's dedicated DVD scaling algorithm would be at least subtly better than my HDTV. There is little guarantee that the PS3 DVD upscale would be as good as an Oppo 981, but I'd like to save the extra HDMI port on my TV. We'll see what we get.

DVD upscaling is coming but no timetable has been given. So I don't expect to see it in the big March update.

I cannot get the damn update to download.
My PS3 sees it available, goes to the system update download screen and then:

An error occured during the download operation.
A connection to the server cannot be established. (80710723)

This has happened 6 times in a row.

==============================================
Nevermind....the thing started downloading on attempt #7....its at 8% now and moving along....

ordinarily i welcome firmware updates with open arms, big ones or small ones. but maybe i wouldn't get so upset over a small one like this if sony didn't make upgrading such a freaking ordeal. sit through a longer than usual download, then you have to plug the controller in using that ridiculously short usb cable they provide. so i'm left standing there while the update happens or else let the controller dangle in front of my tv screen. can someone give me a good explanation as to why sony makes you plug the controller in for each and every update?

If they update the firmware for the Bluetooth chipset, re-pairing is the best way to avoid problems.

If they update the firmware for the Bluetooth chipset, re-pairing is the best way to avoid problems.


makes sense i suppose. but do they update the bluetooth chipset on every update? couldn't they just limit it to the ones that need to be re-paired?

it's a bit wonky

makes sense i suppose. but do they update the bluetooth chipset on every update? couldn't they just limit it to the ones that need to be re-paired?

it's a bit wonky

Oh boy, I guess you don't know about Management.
The pointy-haired boss who signs off on firmware releases figured: "If we re-pair everytime, I don't have to know if we modified the Bluetooth driver/firmware."

It's a bit like Windows asking you to reboot after you install a patch for Internet Explorer.

it's unnecessary and bothersome. and your defense of it holds no water. i don't need to connect my bluetooth headset to my cell phone every time i download a firmware update. ditto for my bluetooth printer. hell, my bluetooth remote for my ps3 doesn't need to be connected either, and seems to work just fine after each and every firmware update...

talbain, how it is so unnecessary and bothersome to you? Why is it that big of a deal? Why can't you just connect it and sit it down? What does it do for you that it upsets you so much and what does it do for you to complain about it? How is this such an issue?

i said it earlier. the cable is too short and the controller would dangle directly in front of my screen. all i ask is for a reasonable explanation of why this is necessary. i'm not losing sleep over it as you people seem to be over every one of my posts

i said it earlier. the cable is too short and the controller would dangle directly in front of my screen. all i ask is for a reasonable explanation of why this is necessary. i'm not losing sleep over it as you people seem to be over every one of my posts


you can't rest it down anywhere while it is updating? You can't use it anyway while updating. I am certainly not losing sleep over your posts, but I am annoyed with them. They are getting old. We people as you call us, lol, are getting a bit weary of the obvious negativity. I for one am wondering where it is getting you if you claim you aren't losing any sleep over it yet seem defensive and emotional yourself?

For under 10.00, I have a USB extension cable since I like my controller connected so as to eliminate any wireless drop offs. For me wired is not a big issue or conflict. I sit 12 ft away and it is not a bother.

I hear what you are saying and I am a big cycnic too, but I am wondering where this is getting you and what it is doing for you? After a while when you or me bitch and moan about something and there isn't much resolve and good chance there isn't going to be, then what? We can continue B&Ming or move on.

sigh...

it's just the freaking point of it. forget it. all is well. i will look forward enthusiastically when i next need to connect my wireless ps3 controller to the ps3 to perform a system update. i won't bring it up again

hey talbain,

I just bought this cable at cc. 10 feet=10 bucks works great and now I can sit while using the ps3's controller!! Check it out.

http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=92

sigh...

it's just the freaking point of it. forget it. all is well. i will look forward enthusiastically when i next need to connect my wireless ps3 controller to the ps3 to perform a system update. i won't bring it up again


Do you bitch and moan about the minutia of everything in your life that isn't exactly as you'd like it to be as much as you bitch and moan about every little aspect and detail of the problems you perceive in the PS3?

Ya know--it annoyed me that I needed to go over and open the entertainment center to plug the controller in to restart the system after an update. It annoyed me for about 4 seconds and then I got back on with my life....Sheesh.....I can almost guarantee that you've spent more time complaining about it online than you have actually had to DO IT combined since the release of the system.

Time well spent, I'd say....

Time well spent, I'd say....


how so? have you found a uvc usb camera that works so far after the update? i haven't. logitech quick cam doesn't work. sony minidv camcorder doesn't work. nikon camera doesn't work. don't own the 360 vision cam but maybe someone could try that one out.

actually maybe it would be helpful if everyone who's tried a camera after the update reports what works and doesn't work to help narrow it down

No system's perfect and Sony proved it to me a few times with the PS3.

But... they got REALLY nice racing games so... I will deal with it.

i said it earlier. the cable is too short and the controller would dangle directly in front of my screen. all i ask is for a reasonable explanation of why this is necessary. i'm not losing sleep over it as you people seem to be over every one of my posts

I solved that problem with a $2 USB extension cable from Monoprice. The connect/disconnect sequence may be slightly irritating, but you could purchase the extension cord so you can at least sit at a normal distance while the process completes.

how so? have you found a uvc usb camera that works so far after the update? i haven't. logitech quick cam doesn't work. sony minidv camcorder doesn't work. nikon camera doesn't work. don't own the 360 vision cam but maybe someone could try that one out.

actually maybe it would be helpful if everyone who's tried a camera after the update reports what works and doesn't work to help narrow it down


what logitech quick cam? there are 50 models of that. Camcoder? huh?

You need camera that supports UVC. Mac also requires cameras that support UVC.

So far confirmed ones are Eyetoy for PS2 and xbox live camera...

what logitech quick cam? there are 50 models of that. Camcoder? huh?

You need camera that supports UVC. Mac also requires cameras that support UVC.

So far confirmed ones are Eyetoy for PS2 and xbox live camera...


any quickcam. i tried 3 of them. camcorders usually work for video chat. there's nothing foreign about that idea, bub...both of mine do on the pc with no problems. you plug them in and they're instantly recongnized as cameras in messenger (live explorer), yahoo, etc. i thought since they're sonys...but no

yes i know you need a camera that supports uvc. google uvc cameras and all you get are articles on how 1.54 firmware supports uvc lol

anyway, i found what i'm looking for. anyone interested can check here for a compatibility list. i'll save you some time, though, since the only ones that anyone has found to work out of 30 or so tested are the xbl vision cam and the eyetoy. gee, thanks sony for the "uvc camera support"...some of the ones tested that don't work specifically say "usb video class" support, so i have no idea what's going on...

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=1251428&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

on a somewhat related note, does anyone know anything about the release of the ps3 camera from sony? early on i heard it was supposed to support hd resolutions, but since then i've heard nothing about it

any quickcam. i tried 3 of them. camcorders usually work for video chat. there's nothing foreign about that idea, bub...both of mine do on the pc with no problems. you plug them in and they're instantly recongnized as cameras in messenger (live explorer), yahoo, etc. i thought since they're sonys...but no

yes i know you need a camera that supports uvc. google uvc cameras and all you get are articles on how 1.54 firmware supports uvc lol

anyway, i found what i'm looking for. anyone interested can check here for a compatibility list. i'll save you some time, though, since the only ones that anyone has found to work out of 30 or so tested are the xbl vision cam and the eyetoy. gee, thanks sony for the "uvc camera support"...some of the ones tested that don't work specifically say "usb video class" support, so i have no idea what's going on...

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&thread.id=1251428&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

on a somewhat related note, does anyone know anything about the release of the ps3 camera from sony? early on i heard it was supposed to support hd resolutions, but since then i've heard nothing about it

the fact that you dont know how to use google, doesnt mean that list doesnt exist. Since OS X supports UVC cameras only, there are many UVC lists.

As to the Eyetoy HD, it will probably be announced after Sony introduces Home... Which will be in next 4 days I would guess.

after which you will probably write how it is probably the best thing in the world, as you usually come around in the next few days. It is getting tiring.

can there be any sort of discussion here without you resorting to personal attacks? THAT'S what's getting tiring. grow up

yeah, i know macs use them. and you know what? none work so far...

hey talbain,

I just bought this cable at cc. 10 feet=10 bucks works great and now I can sit while using the ps3's controller!! Check it out.

http://www.nyko.com/nyko/products/?i=92


thanks my friend. i picked this up last night and it does look like it will solve the problem.

For some reason my ps3 has started freezing during movie playback (dvds & Blurays) and also during gaming (standalone & online - F1 CE). I never had this problem until I updated to the 1.54 firmware. The screen just freezes and I have to reset the box by holding down the On button. So my luck ran out I guess :(

And this kind of implies that they have'nt fixed the damn problem.

For some reason my ps3 has started freezing during movie playback (dvds & Blurays) and also during gaming (standalone & online - F1 CE). I never had this problem until I updated to the 1.54 firmware. The screen just freezes and I have to reset the box by holding down the On button. So my luck ran out I guess :(

And this kind of implies that they have'nt fixed the damn problem.

Call Sony,they will send you a new PS3 or fix your current one. I don't think your problem has to do with firmware. because I don't seem to have any problems with any of my titles. And I have over 30.

Call Sony,they will send you a new PS3 or fix your current one. I don't think your problem has to do with firmware. because I don't seem to have any problems with any of my titles. And I have over 30.

Will have to do that. However, i am wondering if anyone else had this problem? This exactly happened after the 1.54 update and that is no coincidence.

Anyone else have frequent freezes?

i have the same problem as you, BD movie freeze for a few seconds, with 1.50 and 1.54 firmware. the freeze is not because the BD are dirty or sratched because after each freeze moment, i rewinded it and it played fine through the parts where it was frozen.

i hope they fix this soon through firmware, and i would be reluctant to update firmware again as soon as it says so through the ps store.

I watched the departed and the prestige last night with wifi on (4.5 hours) , no interruptions at all. I think they fixed the problems, i was freezing at least once on every movie.

PSN wasn't having issues connection last night, that seems to be when i had the most issues and i still think the freezes are due to timeouts on the wifi side.

The problem is not fixed in 1.54. The easiest way to deal with the problem is to disable the network connection. (Network Settings, Internet Connection, set to: disabled). I was watching a movie for the second time that I had problems with (froze about 5 times the first time I watched it), it froze early in the movie and I realized that I hadn't disabled the internet connection. I disabled it and no more freezes. Watched another movie and no problems. This is a minor inconvenience to deal with the problem until a real fix comes from Sony.

I don't think the problem is fixed, it just depends on how your WiFi connection is. If you don't get any disconnects during the movie then you won't have any freezes. Turning off the auto-login option might prevent the freezes but I haven't had a chance to test this yet.

Here is what Sony customer service told me to do.

After the update, reset default settings and then go about setting ur ps3 back to the way u had it. I have not tried playing a game or movie yet. Will let u all know if that helped (will also try during peak network times).

I dont think they have fixed the screen freeze/wifi issue. If resetting does not work I guess I'll have to take schaffer970's suggestion and just disable the internet connection while watching movies.

I agree with Talbain on this point, as my PS3 is very far away from my monitor (I have all my equipment remote so it's out of the living room). Having to run in and out to see what buttons to press because the controller needs to be connected IS a pain. i don't know why it's a feature, but it is. There are many things I could complain about on this update, but for the record, I agree: some of us (not all of us obviously) have advanced setups that don't have a PS3 sitting on top of our tube tvs...

No luck...inspite of resetting to the default settings, the machine just freezes when I play (only tried online) my F1 game. The disc is brand new and also the dvd movie I played was in good condition. So i called Customer support again and they told me they will replace my system. The CS agent said it could be the bluray laser most probably.

I wonder if the wifi somehow affects the laser's functioning?

I dont want to get another PS3 and go through this crap again, if all the problem was some wireless problem. I did a speed test on my internet connection and found that following info:

Fastest Download: 1908 kb/s
Fastest Upload: 743 kb/s
Average Download: 1908 kb/s
Average Upload: 743 kb/s

I also have my PS3 set to DMZ.

Do anyone see any problems that I am not looking at? I just dont want to go through the hassle of exchanging and not having a solution :mad: .

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

No luck...inspite of resetting to the default settings, the machine just freezes when I play (only tried online) my F1 game. The disc is brand new and also the dvd movie I played was in good condition. So i called Customer support again and they told me they will replace my system. The CS agent said it could be the bluray laser most probably.

I wonder if the wifi somehow affects the laser's functioning?

I dont want to get another PS3 and go through this crap again, if all the problem was some wireless problem. I did a speed test on my internet connection and found that following info:

Fastest Download: 1908 kb/s
Fastest Upload: 743 kb/s
Average Download: 1908 kb/s
Average Upload: 743 kb/s

I also have my PS3 set to DMZ.

Do anyone see any problems that I am not looking at? I just dont want to go through the hassle of exchanging and not having a solution :mad: .

Any help would be greatly appreciated. ThanksAs a last resort you could try doing a full reformat of the hard drive. You'll lose everything of course and it takes a long time, but if you're looking at sending it back it may be worth a shot to you.

I don't think the problem is fixed, it just depends on how your WiFi connection is. If you don't get any disconnects during the movie then you won't have any freezes. Turning off the auto-login option might prevent the freezes but I haven't had a chance to test this yet.

Mine froze 5 times watching Lord of War today with 1.54. I know for a fact that it is not the auto login because my PS3 is not set up for auto login. I have to manually login when I want to so obviously this issue has nothing to do with that feature. This is getting old. This is the second update since the freezing issues started and Sony has yet to fix it.

If it is not the wifi causing the problem then this is crazy. Since my last post I went and played the F1 game both online & offline. Everytime I was playing online, suddenly all cars would crash or stop and I get the freeze screen (this is bcos of my bluray freezing). However, I played twice offline and it seemed to work fine.... :mad:

I am certain this is some firmware issue caused by multiple things (wifi or something triggering the laser to malfunction)..and I did not expect Sony to not do a comprehensive system test before release...I know companies nowadays reduce testing to meet schedule but this is hurting them...I always thought Sony would come late but with a stable device...I guess I was wrong :(

Anyway, I'll have to wait and see when I get the replacement.....I'll be one mad customer if that one had the same problems.

I maintain it is not anything to do with the PS3 hardware itself, but somewhere in the software preferences and or routers/wireless/internet connections. As many of us if not more do NOT have the issue, which means we must have our preferences and or connections set differently. If there was a way to compare every preference 1:1, I bet we could help you guys solve the problem. I am NOT in anyway absolving Sony as part of the issue knowing this occurred after a FW update, but I am saying there is a way WE can try to solve it or at least specifically identify why this is happening. We aren't all geniuses or tech wizards, but we are no dummies either and most of us are generally knowledgeable and some extremely knowledgeable.

Maybe we could set up a database or chart to show how we with no problems have our preferences set.

If it is not the wifi causing the problem then this is crazy. Since my last post I went and played the F1 game both online & offline. Everytime I was playing online, suddenly all cars would crash or stop and I get the freeze screen (this is bcos of my bluray freezing). However, I played twice offline and it seemed to work fine.... :mad:

I am certain this is some firmware issue caused by multiple things (wifi or something triggering the laser to malfunction)..and I did not expect Sony to not do a comprehensive system test before release...I know companies nowadays reduce testing to meet schedule but this is hurting them...I always thought Sony would come late but with a stable device...I guess I was wrong :(

Anyway, I'll have to wait and see when I get the replacement.....I'll be one mad customer if that one had the same problems.

cash, I saw you online and you were jumping all over the place. you then disappeared. I think it's your connection. I have been playing a few hours a day and don't have issues. Only people that I see have problems are low ping/latency issues. There is a screen that shows that in the online menu. Maybe switch to a server that's closer to you.

This thread seems to be jumping all over the place.

My comment relates to BD playback and the firmware 1.54 update. This weekend I watched three BD and I did not have a single freeze up. I my wireless network connection was enabled the whole time. I think this issue is fixed for me. I appears to me that the freeze up problem is related to several separate issues. I don't think there is a single fix for everyone and that's probably why it hasn't been completely fixed by Sony.

This thread seems to be jumping all over the place.

My comment relates to BD playback and the firmware 1.54 update. This weekend I watched three BD and I did not have a single freeze up. I my wireless network connection was enabled the whole time. I think this issue is fixed for me. I appears to me that the freeze up problem is related to several separate issues. I don't think there is a single fix for everyone and that's probably why it hasn't been completely fixed yet by Sony.
I whole heartily agree...you've seemed to be fixed by 1.54 and I went in the other direction. I never had a freeze until now. Watched 2 blue rays this weekend and each within first 10 min froze. Wireless was on. Turned it off and never had another. Now the real questions are why? and would have I have had another if I left the wireless on? Hopefully Sony will isolate some issues though.

Watched a movie this weekend no freezes, wireless on. I've had zero freezes during any movie playback so far.

I have 1.54 and watched the Prestige last night...IT FROZE 4 TIMES! Even my wife was like WTF!
Mike

Wifi. I use a wired connection and I have no problems. It's not like there's not already wires back there anyways. In 5 years, they might have wireless working better. Until then...

After the 1.51 I had at least one freezing on every BD watched and the 1.54 didn't change it. Today I watched a BD movie with no freezings for the first time. Wireless was enabled but I changed the automatic login to OFF. I will keep automatic login OFF and watch few more movies until I can get convinced it makes any difference.

Sergio

I can confirm that 1.54 did not make me more attractive to women.
Did you restart?

I have never experienced a freeze, though I have experienced a black out a few times (3-5 seconds of a black screen while the audio in the Blu-ray disc keeps playing).

I have wireless turned off on my PS3, and I tend to only use the Blu-ray remote (no controllers).

I had the "black outs" with firmware 1.50 and 1.51. However, I've now watched two blu-ray movies with firmware 1.54 and I have yet to see any black outs. I'm hoping the "black out" issue has been fixed for my box.

I hope the Blue RAy movies you're watching are new ones, and not old ones over and over and over. That could become boring.

cash, I saw you online and you were jumping all over the place. you then disappeared. I think it's your connection. I have been playing a few hours a day and don't have issues. Only people that I see have problems are low ping/latency issues. There is a screen that shows that in the online menu. Maybe switch to a server that's closer to you.


I checked my desktop (wired) connection and had around 5 mbps d/l and 650kbps u/l but my wireless connection through my ps3 is pretty bad - 1100kbps d/l speed. I have a U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg Router (USR5461) and have the latest firmware. I am tweaking the settings and hoping that would help. Anyone with any ideas how to improve my wireless bandwidth? The router in the bedroom and the PS3 is in the living room separated by max 20-25 feet.

i will check out the closest server suggestion u provided and will post an update later..

Thx

I checked my desktop (wired) connection and had around 5 mbps d/l and 650kbps u/l but my wireless connection through my ps3 is pretty bad - 1100kbps d/l speed. I have a U.S. Robotics Wireless MAXg Router (USR5461) and have the latest firmware. I am tweaking the settings and hoping that would help. Anyone with any ideas how to improve my wireless bandwidth? The router in the bedroom and the PS3 is in the living room separated by max 20-25 feet.

i will check out the closest server suggestion u provided and will post an update later..

Thx


sure...switch to wireless "b" only mode...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809855

sure...switch to wireless "b" only mode...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809855

Weird...but thanks, I will try it out.

I have 1.54 and watched the Prestige last night...IT FROZE 4 TIMES! Even my wife was like WTF!
MikeFYI, In your signature "of" should be spelled "off"

You brought back a thread which was 10 days old just to correct a signature???

Dude, get a life and stop acting like a nazi spell checker...geez.