As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release today. However Bill Hunt reports the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:

As of now, all the above titles are HD-DVD only, but we've learned that there's some "executive upheaval" going on in the studio's home video division right now, so things could change.

It is sounding more and more encouraging that Universal will go format neutral before CES 2008. I will email Bill with a request for more information.

~Josh

Welcome to the spin zone :rolleyes:

The column was called "Apocalypto and a BIG Universal DVD & HD-DVD update"

It is sounding more and more encouraging that Universal will go format neutral before CES 2008. I will email Bill with a request for more information.

~Josh

Don't hold your breath. If Universal releases all those titles exclusively on HD-DVD by September as rumored, it means they're in this to win.

As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release today. However Bill Hunt reports the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:



It is sounding more and more encouraging that Universal will go format neutral before CES 2008. I will email Bill with a request for more information.

~Josh

Sounds more like wishful thinking from Bill BluRay Hunt.

Over all decent Universal titles slated through the summer. I am curious to the motivation of the tipping your hat, sort of speak, a full six months out. I am not surprised about the "executive upheaval" with all of the changes made at the studio recently. I wonder if the opening price point Sony Blu Ray player was a studio concession (meaning lower retail price point players in the market, before studio support)? Sony did do a fast 180 in a very short period of time regarding price erosion.

Universal slate posted in HD DVD forum: 4:09 PM
Beatboy's message about Universal going neutral: 4:59 PM

You're getting slow. :)

I predict good things for this thread.

Does anyone think their will be a big blu-ray update now that Universal has announced these titles for HD DVD? Don't get me wrong, I am extremely pleased with the Blu-ray news as of late.

Universal slate posted in HD DVD forum: 4:09 PM
Beatboy's message about Universal going neutral: 4:59 PM

You're getting slow. :)
:D

As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release today. However Bill Hunt reports the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:

As of now, all the above titles are HD-DVD only, but we've learned that there's some "executive upheaval" going on in the studio's home video division right now, so things could change.

It is sounding more and more encouraging that Universal will go format neutral before CES 2008. I will email Bill with a request for more information.

~Josh

The HD-DVD people don't want to admit it, but if you take the list as gospel (and many are doing just that, even though a lot of titles don't actually even have any actual release dates like Blu-ray), then you need to take a LONG look at that paragraph.

I think the prospect that all major studios will be in Blu-ray is looking much brighter at this point since this confirms our musings that Universal will undergo some about-face this year.

Universal is in an interesting position: they are the ONLY participant that can do something that is apparently to their complete benefit which will also end the format war.

In multi-person game theory, such a player is thought to be under tremendous pressure to do the move that will end the game.

Of course, if I were planning on going neutral, I would make sure that I was not going to annoy customers who were counting on me. One way to do that would be to make it clear that they are getting a lot as well and are not being left in the cold.

I also find it interesting that the list ends in the summer.

In multi-person game theory, such a player is thought to be under tremendous pressure to do the move that will end the game.

Hey we got a mathematician in the lot!

As to the listing, do Blu-ray studios have listings that go beyond summer?

Don't hold your breath. If Universal releases all those titles exclusively on HD-DVD by September as rumored, it means they're in this to win.

"All those titles"

It's only 59 titles I think, Sony alone plans on releasing more than that. Comeon now.

I think everyone is overanalyzing this list. I don't think anyone but the most feaithful Blu-ray supporter would consider Universal to be switching gears. They must have had plans for months in advance, and it would take a complete collapse on the part of HD-DVD for them to derail their own plans, especially as they are probably bound by signed contracts to do some of this production already.

Will they go neutral toward the end of the year? I doubt it. Will it matter? I have no idea, but again, I doubt it as far as the outcome of the format war.

My read on the situation on the ground is that Universal + Weinstein cannot counter Sony + Disney + MGM + Fox, and nothing has changed on that score. They can play a holding action to try and help buy time for Toshiba gain ground in the hardware race, but they cannot gain a title advantage.

What many in the HD-DVD camp (and even here in AVS land, the gamer demographic is underrepresented) does not realize is that while HD-DVD only has movies to support its sales, the PlayStation 3 will continue to gain momentum throughout the year as more and more games are released. Sure, most of these people buying the system will not buy movies in large numbers, but with the sheer number of units being sold, it doesn't take much.

Can Toshiba (and any CEs who can keep up with their pricing and jump into the HD-DVD market) keep up? I don't know. This will prove to be a very interesting year. :)

EDIT: The question now is what effects will the March numbers have on the format war. HD-DVD looks like it's going to be way behind on sales by end of March, and this list of titles will not stop the hemorrhaging.

Are these titles in addition to the 600 titles HD DVD is supposed to get worldwide? The HD DVD promotional at CES said something like "by the holidays, we'll have more than 600 movies available globally". But Universal did not have its entire release slate or even the number of 2007 releases at that time.

Don't hold your breath. If Universal releases all those titles exclusively on HD-DVD by September as rumored, it means they're in this to win.


I'm struggling to see were the big hitters are.

I can see a couple of nice comedies and the odd cult hit, but beyond that.......

I'm struggling to see were the big hitters are.

I can see a couple of nice comedies and the odd cult hit, but beyond that.......

I agree, where are the big hitters? One undeniable pattern I have noticed from both formats is that catalog releases tend to not sell well, whereas the new/newer releases sell like hotcakes. We all know that Blu-ray has a staggering advantage when it comes to "New/Newer Releases."

~Josh

Hey, I say good for the HD DVD guys...they're starving for new releases. Personally, there are a few titles i would get if I had an HD DVD player, but since I expect Universal will be releasing on BD in the next 12 months, it's certainly nothing I cannot wait for.

This is in the wrong forum BB. You should have posted it in HDTV Software Media.

This is in the wrong forum BB. You should have posted it in HDTV Software Media.

I chose to post this news here as to avoid a "format fight." I just thought it was interesting that Bill has received the inside information which he has.

~Josh

Man, i miss Oshodi. I would pay to see a match between BB77 and Oshodi. :D
Yeah, what happened to Oshodi?

I have been emailing Bill back and fourth since his update today on thedigitalbits.com. When I have his permission I will post some exciting news later.

~Josh

I agree, where are the big hitters? One undeniable pattern I have noticed from both formats is that catalog releases tend to not sell well, whereas the new/newer releases sell like hotcakes. We all know that Blu-ray has a staggering advantage when it comes to "New/Newer Releases."

~Josh

Put it this way, other than Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead, they're the kind of movies I can wait to hit the bargain bin.

I chose to post this news here as to avoid a "format fight." I just thought it was interesting that Bill has received the inside information which he has.

~Josh
I applaud you posting it here, b. It's a statement from Bill Hunt, after all.

Sometimes you just can't win, eh b?

Bravo, beatboy77!! Your marketing skills are clearly improving... :rolleyes:

Only beatboy77 could spin this as good news for Blu-ray. It's not even news, but based off some B.S. speculation from the most famous Blu-ray shill of them all, Bill Hunt. I don't think anyone else could do Bill's job as well as he does...it is an extraordinary skill to so seamlessly interject one's own opinion into an otherwise hard news story. It would take Bill to write it and beatboy77 to hype it... :rolleyes: ...what a team!

In case anyone missed the "upheaval" release earlier this month, there was a particular paragraph that must have been written in blue (otherwise you would have been able to read it behind your Blu-Ray Bans... ;) ):

Kornblau's marketing executive Ken Graffeo will focus on HD DVD promotion, which Universal said it identified as a major priority.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/20070220-100521-1557r/

In fact, this paragraph was set aside by itself which makes it all that more prominent. One wonders why it is so frequently ignored... :confused: :confused: I can only assume because it doesn't serve your cause... :D

I have been emailing Bill back and fourth since his update today on thedigitalbits.com. When I have his permission I will post some exciting news later.

~Josh


I definitely want some exciting Blu-ray news. Keep us updated beatboy77.

Bravo, beatboy77!! Your marketing skills are clearly improving... :rolleyes:

Only beatboy77 could spin this as good news for Blu-ray. It's not even news, but based off some B.S. speculation from the most famous Blu-ray shill of them all, Bill Hunt. I don't think anyone else could do Bill's job as well as he does...it is an extraordinary skill to so seamlessly interject one's own opinion into an otherwise hard news story. It would take Bill to write it and beatboy77 to hype it... :rolleyes: ...what a team!

In case anyone missed the "upheaval" release earlier this month, there was a particular paragraph that must have been written in blue (otherwise you would have been able to read it behind your Blu-Ray Bans... ;) ):

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/20070220-100521-1557r/

In fact, this paragraph was set aside by itself which makes it all that more prominent. One wonders why it is so frequently ignored... :confused: :confused: I can only assume because it doesn't serve your cause... :D

HomerJay,

Are you the guy behind the HDgameDB website? If so, thanks so much for the effort you put in to that site, it is GREAT!!

~Josh

HomerJay,

Are you the guy behind the HDgameDB website? If so, thanks so much for the effort you put in to that site, it is GREAT!!

~JoshYes, HdGameDb is my website. I'm glad you enjoy it. It seems a few do!

I always enjoy your posts even if we don't see eye to eye... :) I know there's one or two on the Universal list you'll get on HD DVD... ;)

The "leak" about Universal HD DVD releases suggests a number of possibilities.

One that I have been contemplating is that this is Universal's way of saying something supportive to HD DVD supporters in anticipation of going neutral.

A story: a number of years ago (too many!), TV Guide had an ad campaign where they said "still only 15 cents" for their publication. A few months later, the price went up. Obviously, the ad campaign was to convince people that TV Guide was a bargain to pave the way for a price increase.

Could listing all of these titles just be a way of saying "we love you" to HD DVD supporters, in preparation for going neutral?

I have no reason to think that this is the case but it is an interesting thought just in terms of PR psychology.

If I were universal, i would stick with HD-DVD to the end, and then sell everybody the same movies again on blu-ray. Why sell one copy when you can sell two and not be demonized for it.

Josh,

I think you are reaching here (again).

--Darin

As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release today. However Bill Hunt reports the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:



It is sounding more and more encouraging that Universal will go format neutral before CES 2008. I will email Bill with a request for more information.

~Josh


Would you please stop with the Spin!! :rolleyes:

This is just as bad as when the guys on the HD DVD side kept harping on the production yield problems with BD last summer. Or the constant Lionsgate and Disney are going neutral. :(

Universal will go neutral at some point, it is really only a question of when. I don't expect it until 2008, but apparently there are signs it may be sooner.

Great news for Blu-ray regardless. :)

As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release ONLY today. However Bill Hunt spreads rumors on the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:

It is sounding more and more encouraging that beatboy77 will go 100% Blu Ray before March 2, 2007. I will email Bill with a request for more rumors.

~Josh

Quote fixed.

The "leak" about Universal HD DVD releases suggests a number of possibilities.

One that I have been contemplating is that this is Universal's way of saying something supportive to HD DVD supporters in anticipation of going neutral.

A story: a number of years ago (too many!), TV Guide had an ad campaign where they said "still only 15 cents" for their publication. A few months later, the price went up. Obviously, the ad campaign was to convince people that TV Guide was a bargain to pave the way for a price increase.

Could listing all of these titles just be a way of saying "we love you" to HD DVD supporters, in preparation for going neutral?

I have no reason to think that this is the case but it is an interesting thought just in terms of PR psychology.


By that same logic, the BD studios' aggressive release slate must mean they are preparing to go neutral

beatboy77 Reports "Forum Upheaval" with worshiping Blu Ray Right Now

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Originally Posted by beatboy77
As some of you may know, Universal announced some titles for future HD-DVD release ONLY today. However Bill Hunt spreads rumors on the following on Universal exclusively supporting HD-DVD:

It is sounding more and more encouraging that beatboy77 will go 100% Blu Ray before March 2, 2007. I will email Bill with a request for more rumors.

~Josh


Quote fixed.


"It's funny cause it's true!" Homer Simpson
:D

What many in the HD-DVD camp (and even here in AVS land, the gamer demographic is underrepresented) does not realize is that while HD-DVD only has movies to support its sales, the PlayStation 3 will continue to gain momentum throughout the year as more and more games are released. Sure, most of these people buying the system will not buy movies in large numbers, but with the sheer number of units being sold, it doesn't take much.



Maybe. The Xbox 360 also has an HD DVD drive which is doing well in sales, and a better selection of games at the moment. Sony needs to play catch-up in the gaming arena as the Wii and Xbox are outselling the PS3. No doubt, it could change a year from now, but I still have to laugh when I see the console sitting on shelves in mass quantities now that the hype has died down. I wouldn't count on the PS3 being the savior to improved Blu-Ray sales. The new $599 player Sony announced may have more impact than the PS3.

Man, beatboy applies more spin than Britney Spears' publicist. :rolleyes:

I have been emailing Bill back and fourth since his update today on thedigitalbits.com. When I have his permission I will post some exciting news later.

~Josh


Give us the exciting news, I'm dying here. :p :D

Universal will not go neutral in 2007. But who knows what 2008 will bring. I think all the studios are playing out this year as planned. There is an alliance between Universal and Toshiba for HD DVD. By the end of 2007 Universal will have about 160 HD DVD titles produced. That is alot to re-produce for BD. If they go neutral in 2008 they will probably do the biggest sellers on BD. My advice is for BD supporters to buy a HD DVD player when the prices go down to the $200.00 - $300.00 range, otherwise you will be missing alot of Universal titles on Hi Def. I own both HD DVD and BD players and love them both. They are both worthy of having.

Man, beatboy applies more spin than Britney Spears' publicist. :rolleyes:

The article quoted gives reason to believe Universals position 'could' change, hopefully more details will be released soon.

The list of HD-DVD releases is hardly inspiring and is devoid of any big hitters.

Anyone would think Universal are fufilling their obligations to HD-DVD before unleashing their big hitters in Q4 2007 or Q1 2008, on both formats.

"All those titles"

It's only 59 titles I think, Sony alone plans on releasing more than that. Comeon now.

They plan on another 40 between October and November.

I can't wait until Uni dives into BR. It's going to be fantastic reading people complaining about them using existing HD-DVD targeted VC1 encodes and wasting space on the 50gb discs they're pressed on.

Great news for Blu Ray forums!

The article quoted gives reason to believe Universals position 'could' change, hopefully more details will be released soon.



Or, more likely, it just means that with the "upheaval", the list of upcoming releases is subject to change; they may add titles, or they may change release dates around. Why do so many people speculate around here? Why can't things just be taken for what they are?

Would you please stop with the Spin!! :rolleyes:


How is he "spinning" when he is directly quoting the article and simply saying the same thing?

By that same logic, the BD studios' aggressive release slate must mean they are preparing to go neutral

You may be right except their release schedule is not at all aggressive. Has any of the studios released more than 10 titles a month? You might get 7 from Sony, 4 from Disney, 5 from fox and 2 from LG. Universal give you 10.

My theory (posted several times), is that Universal want to get as much milage as they can from HD DVD and then dump it for Blu-ray. Chances are they can get a lot of double dips as well as the new owners.

I've said for a long time that once Universal exhaust most of their popular catalogue they'll switch, although I didn't expect that to happen it looks like we'll reach that point this year. Whether they switch, remains to be seen.

If I were a HD DVD supporter I'd be asking why Universal has opted to release so many good titles so soon. What's left? Isn't it too much at once? They'd be better off releasing 6 or so a month

I am an HD DVD Supporter also, and so far they have given us outstanding titles. They have really commited themselves to bringing the highest quality to thier releases. Films like "Backdraft", "Seabiscuit", "The Bourne Supremacy", "The Hulk". "King Kong", "Jet Li's Fearless", "Jarhead", "The Chronicles of Riddick", "Ray", "Casino" etc. have never looked so good. There are so many titles they have not even touched yet. The Universal library is bigger than you think.

I am an HD DVD Supporter also, and so far they have given us outstanding titles. They have really commited themselves to bringing the highest quality to thier releases. Films like "Backdraft", "Seabiscuit", "The Bourne Supremacy", "The Hulk". "King Kong", "Jet Li's Fearless", "Jarhead", "The Chronicles of Riddick", "Ray", "Casino" etc. have never looked so good. There are so many titles they have not even touched yet. The Universal library is bigger than you think.

Uh huh....keep on drinking that koolaid :rolleyes:

If I were a HD DVD supporter I'd be asking why Universal has opted to release so many good titles so soon. What's left? Isn't it too much at once? They'd be better off releasing 6 or so a month

Because they promised to release at least 100 titles in 2007, and because with the size of their catalog, they have PLENTY of good titles. Additionally, Sony and Buena Vista are releasing some of their more popular titles (Casino Royale, POTC), and no one is second guessing that. What's more, a few weeks ago people were saying that Universal's lack of releases was a sign that they were going neutral, and now that they have actually started announcing titles, people are saying the same thing. When does it end? How many titles need they announce or not announce for people to stop questioning their motives?

Uh huh....keep on drinking that koolaid :rolleyes:

How much Kool-Aid did you drink back when Blu-ray kept promising things and then delaying them?

I've said for a long time that once Universal exhaust most of their popular catalogue they'll switch, although I didn't expect that to happen it looks like we'll reach that point this year. Whether they switch, remains to be seen.

If I were a HD DVD supporter I'd be asking why Universal has opted to release so many good titles so soon. What's left? Isn't it too much at once? They'd be better off releasing 6 or so a month

So let me get this straight:

No release schedule announced at CES by Universal = Universal is wavering in its support of HD DVD; neutrality soon

Announcement of "too many" HD DVD releases by Universal = Universal is wavering in its support of HD DVD; product dump is commencing and neutrality soon

So, basically, whatever Universal does is a sign that it is going neutral soon.

How about Occam's razor applying here that this list is a sign of support for HD DVD by Universal? Nah, too simple.

Evidently Bill Hunt feels the need to display his fanboyism when he states "As of now, all the above titles are HD-DVD only, but we've learned that there's some "executive upheaval" going on in the studio's home video division right now, so things could change." Give me a break!

Who doesn't know that Universal has been going through an executive shake-up?This is not inside information Beatboy! It has been widely reported in the press. I love it when he feels free to make these unfounded speculations (of course he has a 50-50 chance of being right) yet he has discounted those who earlier speculated about possible defections from the Blu-ray camp or put some stock in the Amazon numbers. C'mon Bill you are better than that

Any way you slice it, this is a nice group of titles. I am glad that I will finally be able to play some high definition movies on my HD-A1 again. However, I'm still convinced that the format is gonna have a tough time pulling out a victory. May the best format win.

This is my purchase wishlist from the rumored titles:

April
The Good Shepherd
Smokin' Aces
The Game
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

May
The 40-Year-Old Virgin: Unrated
Midnight Run
The Frighteners
The Big Lebowski
Dragonheart

June
Breach
Bruce Almighty
Liar Liar
Sneakers
Born on the 4th of July
Scent of a Women
Monty Python's The Meaning of Life
Meet Joe Black
Being John Malkovich

July
The War
The Bourne Identity
In Good Company
Sea of Love
Darkman

August
Heroes: Season One

September
The Last Starfighter
Legend
Battlestar Galactica: Season One
Cat People

This is an impressive commitment from Universal so far... and since Beatboy and Bill Hunt find it easy to make speculation a Blu-ray affair, I'll predict that E.T. and Jaws will be released on HD DVD exclusively this year. Especially E.T. since Universal celebrates the film's 25th Anniversary in 2007.

It's pretty damn nice to be neutral.

I used to check that site every day. A few months ago I quit going there. Blatant fanboyism and very little HD-disc related news. That site was cool back in 1998 when DVD's were cool...

I trust the aggregate opinion of everyone here on AVS a lot more than Bill Hunt.

How much Kool-Aid did you drink back when Blu-ray kept promising things and then delaying them?

Not a one, because I've actually been getting some GOOD titles from the blu-ray camp and have already PRE-ORDERED some of the biggies like PoTC, cars, Rocky Balboa....you guys are salivating over catalog releases while we get blockbusters that actually were made this century :D

Yes, HdGameDb is my website. I'm glad you enjoy it. It seems a few do!

I always enjoy your posts even if we don't see eye to eye... :) I know there's one or two on the Universal list you'll get on HD DVD... ;)

Yes, thanks for your website, I like its layout much better then eproductwars.com. From the list of titles today I would buy:

The Big Lebowski
Born on the 4th of July
Dante's Peak

That is honestly it. I will also buy Scarface whenever that is announced, if it ever is.

~Josh

Announcement of "too many" HD DVD releases by Universal = Universal is wavering in its support of HD DVD; product dump is commencing and neutrality soon

No announcement has yet been made, nor street dates been given, except for these listings by an accused Blu-ray fanboy....

Im missing some things here. First, who is Bill Hunt? Does he work for univeral? Movie producer? disc maker?

Im missing some things here. First, who is Bill Hunt? Does he work for univeral? Movie producer? disc maker?

he's an editor of a journal who has been accused recently by HD-DVD supporters of being a Blu-ray "fanboy" and distorting the facts - unless of course, he's listing rumored releases by Universal, at which point his word is GOSPEL - all except that last paragraph of his, of course, which is proof that he is a blu-ray "fanboy", and I will close my ears now and go nah, nah, nah.......

Not a one, because I've actually been getting some GOOD titles from the blu-ray camp and have already PRE-ORDERED some of the biggies like PoTC, cars, Rocky Balboa....you guys are salivating over catalog releases while we get blockbusters that actually were made this century :D

Save it for someone else, Sport, because I own both formats. Blu-ray has some good titles coming, a lot of which I have pre-ordered, but I'm also getting a little fed up with the way people are incessantly speculating about every move Universal makes or doesn't make. Just give it a freakin' rest and enjoy the format(s), for Christ's sake.

he's an editor of a journal who has been accused recently by HD-DVD supporters of being a Blu-ray "fanboy" and distorting the facts - unless of course, he's listing rumored releases by Universal, at which point his word is GOSPEL - all except that last paragraph of his, of course, which is proof that he is a blu-ray "fanboy", and I will close my ears now and go nah, nah, nah.......


Thanks Asj

By that same logic, the BD studios' aggressive release slate must mean they are preparing to go neutral

Yes, good call there. :)

I was just speculating, perhaps that is not a good idea.

Yes, good call there. :)

I was just speculating, perhaps that is not a good idea.

How boring would most forums be without speculation. we are human after all, curious little monkey critters at heart :)

I think I'll consider all things rumor until it is known to be fact.

I think I'll consider all things rumor until it is known to be fact.

It's funny how all the HD-DVD supporters are treating the list of TBA titles from Hunt as fact, then turning around in a heart beat and attacking him as a fanboy for his last statement IN THAT SAME ARTICLE:

As of now, all the above titles are HD-DVD only, but we've learned that there's some "executive upheaval" going on in the studio's home video division right now, so things could change.

Honestly. I think it's time for Universal to admit it was wrong and make all its titles available to the Blu-ray camp. There's only room for one format in the end if we want the mass public to embrace HD, and Blu-ray is it.

Well Universal going neutral would be great as Ive now reached 100 Blu Ray Discs. I know its a bit off topic but I am excited and I wanted to post it somewhere.

beatboy77,

Again. Man, do you EVER give up? Now that Universal has announced a ton of titles it must be that they are going neutral?

NEWS!!!! NEWS!!!!
My taco told me today that Fox will becoming neutral in April!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe. The Xbox 360 also has an HD DVD drive which is doing well in sales, and a better selection of games at the moment. Sony needs to play catch-up in the gaming arena as the Wii and Xbox are outselling the PS3. No doubt, it could change a year from now, but I still have to laugh when I see the console sitting on shelves in mass quantities now that the hype has died down. I wouldn't count on the PS3 being the savior to improved Blu-Ray sales. The new $599 player Sony announced may have more impact than the PS3.
I'm not sure I agree with that.

The PS3 lacks only one thing at the moment: content. Feed it some games and watch the sales numbers go up. The Xbox 360 has games, yet barely stays ahead. What happens to the 360 when the PS3 starts getting the blockbuster titles? And what happens when (not if - when) Sony drops production cost enough to justify a price cut on the PS3?

I think the $599 Sony BDP-S300 will surely garner some sales, but still feel that the numbers for the PS3 will take a very steep upturn over the next few months with more titles arriving to flesh out the admittedly weak PS3 release lineup.

Now, the HD-DVD attachment is a strange creature. Assuming the PS3 is a sunk cost, the 360 unit offers a good entry price, but lacks in performance (no HDMI, weak audio output), and has problems with some discs (most notably the Nine Inch Nails : Beside You In Time HD-DVD). The trouble with it is that it's much harder to convince someone to buy an add-on than to include the product, though the few people out there with HTPC setups might use it.

Honestly. I think it's time for Universal to admit it was wrong and make all its titles available to the Blu-ray camp.
I gotta say, I rarely lurk here but I need to more often.
It's just so damn funny. :D

How boring would most forums be without speculation. we are human after all, curious little monkey critters at heart :)I for one am proud to be a "curious little monkeycritter at heart". :D

Life is more interesting when you try to enjoy it. :)

beatboy77,

Again. Man, do you EVER give up? Now that Universal has announced a ton of titles it must be that they are going neutral?

NEWS!!!! NEWS!!!!
My taco told me today that Fox will becoming neutral in April!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol...

I'm struggling to see were the big hitters are.

I can see a couple of nice comedies and the odd cult hit, but beyond that.......

Personally I'm looking foward to Mystery Men and The Bourne Identity, so out of 59 titles I'll be getting 2.... :D

Honestly. I think it's time for Universal to admit it was wrong and make all its titles available to the Blu-ray camp. There's only room for one format in the end if we want the mass public to embrace HD, and Blu-ray is it.

Honestly. I think it's time for Disney and Fox to admit they were wrong again like DIVX vs DVD and make all its titles available to the HD-DVD camp. There's only room for one format in the end if we want the mass public to embrace HD, and HD-DVD is it...considering HD is in the title of the format. ;)

Personally I'm looking foward to Mystery Men and The Bourne Identity, so out of 59 titles I'll be getting 2.... :D

Yet many BR fans will buy crap like 'A Knights Tale', 'Into the Blue' just to buy it.

beatboy77,

I can not believe that you conduct serious bussiness.
Sometimes you open some posts that are really resting you credibility as a serious person.
You can go ahead and report me, but I think that plenty of people have been saying the same for a long time.
When are you planning to stop and finally spend some time with what matters...watching some good HD. I doubt that you have time left to watch movies.

Honestly. I think it's time for Disney and Fox to admit they were wrong again like DIVX vs DVD and make all its titles available to the HD-DVD camp. There's only room for one format in the end if we want the mass public to embrace HD, and HD-DVD is it...considering HD is in the title of the format. ;)

well, my excuse is that Blu-ray looks like it's gonna win handily in the sales department, what's yours? :cool:

beatboy77,

Again. Man, do you EVER give up? Now that Universal has announced a ton of titles it must be that they are going neutral?


Note that UNIVERSAL has NOT announced this list (or at least most of the titles in it)...it's that blu-boy hunt guy who has announced the list, and with no street date on most these are just rumors until announced and given dates by Universal.

Sheeeshhh...these HD-DVD people have GOT to get more content or they'll just explode everytime some rumor comes along.

beatboy77,

I can not believe that you conduct serious bussiness.
Sometimes you open some posts that are really resting you credibility as a serious person.
You can go ahead and report me, but I think that plenty of people have been saying the same for a long time.
When are you planning to stop and finally spend some time with what matters...watching some good HD. I doubt that you have time left to watch movies.

Just click on the "report post" when he does this. I'm sure the mods won't do a thing, as usual, but perhaps they'll surprise us.

Too bad there was no AVS Forum back in the Beta vs. VHS days - it would have been fun...(I chose Beta by the way)

Time.