If there's any question what is the best movie studio in regards to HD content and quality video transfers, lets put it to rest right now. Buena Vista is committed to the HD format in a big way. Not only will the two PotC movies both come in 2 BD discs, Cars will also join PotC and come on 2 BD discs ...if Mr. Hunt is to be believed that is.

I've learned today that the forthcoming release of Cars and the Pirates of the Caribbean films will include so much material that they'll be 2-disc sets (BD50s).

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

Nice

If there's any question what is the best movie studio in regards to HD content and quality video transfers, lets put it to rest right now. Buena Vista is committed to the HD format in a big way. Not only will the two PotC movies both come in 2 BD discs, Cars will also join PotC and come on 2 BD discs ...if Mr. Hunt is to be believed that is. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents


HOLLLLYYYY GEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

I LOVEEEEE BLU-RAY!!!!!!!!!

...

It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

Maybe 2 TL-51s??? ;)

Very nice! Disney has been doing the nicest BD work of all the studios. I can't wait.

Very nice! Disney has been doing the nicest BD work of all the studios. I can't wait.

And of course, I expect Disney to provide some TOP-NOTCH blu-ray exclusives....show the world how BD-J is done, and done right!

Wow! Time to go place a pre-order or two for some show-off material!

Disney continues to amaze me. I'm going to have to set aside a special "Disney budget" just for their awesome releases and unquestioned commitment to quality.

Cars is gonna look amazing, but man would I like to see Monsters Inc in HD. The fur on the monsters will look amazing.

Cars is gonna look amazing, but man would I like to see Monsters Inc in HD. The fur on the monsters will look amazing.

I think Cars will look amazing...i didn't immediately warm to the story at first but it got pretty ok by the end....

Another must buy for me ... although the movie is ~

Maybe 2 TL-51s??? ;)

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GB

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GB

Dual layer is considered multiple layer.

i didn't immediately warm to the story at first but it got pretty ok by the end....

I damn near came to tears at the end! Disney can have my wallet. Cars, POTC 1,2.....I'd pay double for those titles.

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GB

Just curious, can you provide me a link to verify your claims? Not being argumentative, I'd just like to see where you got your information from.

Dual layer is considered multiple layer.

He said multiple higher than 30 ;).

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GBWhy did you have to post something so stupid in this thread? It has nothing to do with the discussion. It only takes one to throw off a perfectly nice thread about the Cars release and now it is to become another fight about disc size. Freakin A this is getting old. :confused:

It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

Edit.... nevermind, now I see the OP started it. Couldn't just post about the Cars release could ya? Had to take shots at the other format which was probably your underlying premise to start with. Great way to get your thread off on the right foot. Lame. :(

Seeing as POTC will be 50+25 I'm sure Cars will be the same

It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

By not using uncompressed PCM audio maybe? Or perhaps the previously mentioned TL-51?

It doesn't really beg the question and it'd be nice if you didn't feel the need to put down HD DVD in every thread.

Looks like a nice release for Disney btw.

I damn near came to tears at the end! Disney can have my wallet. Cars, POTC 1,2.....I'd pay double for those titles.

The beginning was sorta stilted because (1) you're trying to fathom talking cars, for gosh sakes; (2) i had no interest in the race at the beginning and the cityscapes.

However, the time he spent in that out of the way town was interesting and it got better towards the end....

The animation was excellent, as is usual for disney films. i just looked at dinosaur yesterday and was amazed how crisp and lifelike the animation was on HDTV/bluray.

He said multiple higher than 30 ;).
Somehow, I missed that, lol.......unless he edited it.

If there's any question what is the best movie studio in regards to HD content and quality video transfers, lets put it to rest right now. Buena Vista is committed to the HD format in a big way. Not only will the two PotC movies both come in 2 BD discs, Cars will also join PotC and come on 2 BD discs ...if Mr. Hunt is to be believed that is.



http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

Do you even know what codecs will be used ? It's nice being an a$$ but at least be a smart one : World Trade Center was a 2 disc set on both formats, wasn't it ? And as far as reported on high def websites, both formats offered the same stuff.

Go ahead, enjoy your MPEG2 and PCM at $30 a pop (you'll be lucky to even get it at that price once competition is gone) while every other medium delivery moved to space-efficient advanced codecs. If you can't fit a relatively short HD movie and supplements on 50 Gb, will they need to split the extended versions of LOTR on 2 discs too ? Hint : they'll use an advanced current generation codec so they don't have to.

Has it ever occured to you that they might do 2 disc sets to seemingly add value to the title ?

It doesn't really beg the question and it'd be nice if you didn't feel the need to put down HD DVD in every thread.

My point exactly.

Go ahead, enjoy your MPEG2 and PCM at $30 a pop (you'll be lucky to even get it at that price once competition is gone)

1. we don't know what disney will use;
2. you can get pirates for $23 or so a pop, so it's likely cars will retail for that too.

Go ahead, enjoy your MPEG2 and PCM at $30 a pop

I think the point here in the Blu ray Software forum is that Blu Ray player owners have something to enjoy....... movies. That's why we support this format: movies, movies, movies. Since you find it necessary to knock Blu Ray down a notch for releasing first rate titles, it is obvious that since HD DUD has no titles to watch, you have a lot of time on your hands to post here...

You can complain about he Cars release, but I'll look forward to watching it in full 1080P HD and uncompressed master quality sound.

From the digitalbits:
While we're on the subject of Buena Vista and Blu-ray, I've learned today that the forthcoming release of Cars and the Pirates of the Caribbean films will include so much material that they'll be 2-disc sets (BD50s). Cars is expected to be released in late June. Official details should be announced in the next few weeks.

SO MUCH MATERIAL.....woohoooo!!!! BRING IT ON!

Go ahead, enjoy your MPEG2 and PCM

Thanks, I will.

From the digitalbits:
While we're on the subject of Buena Vista and Blu-ray, I've learned today that the forthcoming release of Cars and the Pirates of the Caribbean films will include so much material that they'll be 2-disc sets (BD50s). Cars is expected to be released in late June. Official details should be announced in the next few weeks.

SO MUCH MATERIAL.....woohoooo!!!! BRING IT ON!

Wow, I'm so excited i just re-quoted the OP :o

Has it ever occured to you that they might do 2 disc sets to seemingly add value to the title ?

I understand and respect your opinion, but I disagree with the notion that Buena Vista's sole intent to have these releases on 2 Discs is to add value.

While this may be true, I personally more than welcome Buena Vista's decision. I would MUCH rather have nothing but the movie on one BD-50 disc, with an advanced video codec and uncompressed audio, with both bitrates cranked all the way up, and have all extras (which I assume are mostly in HD) chucked in a seperate BD-25 disc.

So the decision is not just a good buiness one, but a sound, technically wise one as well :) .

They must have a LOT of content to put on this disc because animated films aren't that tough to compress if my memory recalls correctly. Disney loves to go all out. If any company was the harbinger of TL51 it was Disney. They love putting copious amounts of stuff on discs when they're talking about their crown jewels.

Maybe 2 TL-51s??? ;)

oh no, probably 1 TL-51 will do. They only had to use 2 blu-ray discs because they were 1 gig over 50. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

If any company was the harbinger of TL51 it was Disney.

lol, Disney wants nothing to do with HD-DVD, TL51, or whatever else toshiba tries to come up with. that much is painfully obvious. but keep dreaming murch :rolleyes:

Seems to me that this release is not just about the movie, isn't it ? I don't see you hammering the fact that you only care about the movie and supplements are useless, unwanted "features", like you did regarding HD-DVD releases...

And for someone with so many movies to watch, you still find the time to have way more than a few posts a week to defend your darling format : so who's got a lot more time on their hands to post here, you, or me ? Go drink your wine of the week, it might bring you to a higher state of consciousness.

You are right. To me, I would have no supplements on any disc. Who has the time to watch them? I just want the movie. And with Blu Ray, we get movies...HD DUD,just promises from Universal (but definetely no Spielberg)
As for the wine, I already started. A Priorat (Spain) tonight. Fantastic!

Jeez, the HD DVD fanatics are incredibly desperate now.

Getting back on topic, I've been reluctant to watch Cars since it was released in theaters, but I'll give in and give the BD a spin when it comes out in the summer.

lol, Disney wants nothing to do with HD-DVD, TL51, or whatever else toshiba tries to come up with. that much is painfully obvious. but keep dreaming murch :rolleyes:

You're right.

Jeez, the HD DVD fanatics are incredibly desperate now.

Getting back on topic, I've been reluctant to watch Cars since it was released in theaters, but I'll give in and give the BD a spin when it comes out in the summer.

You're right about HD DVD fantatics.

Cars is a solid movie. I mean it has done just about as well as it could considering many American have no idea about NASCAR. I find that it is certainly watchable again and again.

This disc could also (speculation ahead) be a way for Disney to generate interest in the format. Cars is already out on DVD and there are really no special features to speak of on that disc - not even the obligatory commentary! If Disney releases a loaded Cars BD without an accompanying (double dip) DVD, Mouse House fans may consider that the writing on the wall for future DVD releases.

There is no reason for Cars to need 2 x 50 gb discs.

Well it's about time the HD fans start getting MORE stuff on the disc. Hell if you want to make HD the next step for consumers you have to incentivize them. Barebones HD discs for more money make little sense to consumers who think upscaling on their DVDs is HD on their HDTV.

Well it's about time the HD fans start getting MORE stuff on the disc. Hell if you want to make HD the next step for consumers you have to incentivize them. Barebones HD discs for more money make little sense to consumers who think upscaling on their DVDs is HD on their HDTV.
The largest selling DVDs are the ones with only the feature on them. If they want to sell more HD, they need to ignore enthusiasts and give the movie, light extras, and players at better prices than they are presently offering.

There is no reason for Cars to need 2 x 50 gb discs.

In a consumers eye, what has more value: a 1 disc BD or a 2 disc BD?

In a consumers eye, what has more value: a 1 disc BD or a 2 disc BD?

Touche! :D

The largest selling DVDs are the ones with only the feature on them. If they want to sell more HD, they need to ignore enthusiasts and give the movie, light extras, and players at better prices than they are presently offering.

Back in the good 'ol days of DVD, there was a 2-disc release priced anywhere from 14.99 to 17.99 in stores. Many movies sold just wonderfully in this configuration. Then around 2004 studios started to have dual releases. The first been a 1 disc prices at 14.99 to 17.99 in stores and a 2 disc release at 22.99 to 24.99 in store.

Faced with that predicament, I'm not surprised that the cheaper, 1 disc release would sell better.

You guys are all very smart to have figured out Disney's evil plot to include a second unnecessary disc to jack up the price. That certainly makes the most sense of any possible scenario.


Jesus.....

You guys are all very smart to have figured out Disney's evil plot to include a second unnecessary disc to jack up the price. That certainly makes the most sense of any possible scenario.

Well, we all know about Occam's Razor :D

This will be Pixar's first HD title. Don't be surprise if Steve Jobs has a hand on the production of this Blu-ray disc. He is a perfectionist and hard arse to work for. He would not accept anything less than pristine PQ.

P.S Usually animation features are pretty straight forward and do not take much space when it comes to HD. But I think Cars is different. There were a lot motion with reflective surfaces basically throughout the entire movie ...its only natural since its about cars. Its much more complicated than your average animation feature.

This will be Pixar's first HD title. Don't be surprise if Steve Jobs has a hand on the production of this Blu-ray disc. He is a perfectionist and hard arse to work for. He would not accept anything less than pristine PQ.

He's a nutjob. :rolleyes:

But a rich nutjob. :D

I wonder if there's a chance that they'll be putting a 16x9 "fullscreen" (to fill an HDTV) version on there, and that's what's taking up space. I remember reading last year that one reason why Disney wanted the extra space of 50GB was so they could include a fullscreen version.

I'll watch the OAR version of course, but I wonder if this could be the first title they do it with because of the mainstream kids/family appeal.

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GB


and how would you know this? that's what firmware updates are for.

i would also like to point out that the exact same comments like yours were made when dual layer dvds were released...

Dual laver DVDs were at approved part of the spec from the beginning.

Yeah well if I recall correctly, a firmware upgrade didn't magically make single layer players, read dual layer discs...

awesome...the more discs..the merrier. Do I hear 3 discs coming soon? :)

I think the point here in the Blu ray Software forum is that Blu Ray player owners have something to enjoy....... movies. That's why we support this format: movies, movies, movies. Since you find it necessary to knock Blu Ray down a notch for releasing first rate titles, it is obvious that since HD DUD has no titles to watch, you have a lot of time on your hands to post here...

You can complain about he Cars release, but I'll look forward to watching it in full 1080P HD and uncompressed master quality sound.


ROck on Dude :)

I wonder if there's a chance that they'll be putting a 16x9 "fullscreen" (to fill an HDTV) version on there, and that's what's taking up space. I remember reading last year that one reason why Disney wanted the extra space of 50GB was so they could include a fullscreen version.

I'll watch the OAR version of course, but I wonder if this could be the first title they do it with because of the mainstream kids/family appeal.


Cars DVD was Full 16:9. I suspect all animation films from Disney will be the same and not theatrical with black bars.

awesome...the more discs..the merrier. Do I hear 3 discs coming soon? :)


If Disney wants to use two 50GB discs, I am not going to complain. :)

Well I already own this movie on SD-DVD since I didn't know if it'd hit a HD medium.
Looks like Disney is going to double dip me on this one but I'm kinda ok with it :D

Somehow, I missed that, lol.......unless he edited it.

You are right, I did edit it, my bad! :)

Anyway, current model Toshibas won't play any discs that has more than 2 layers. I saw an article about it once, I'll try and dig it up. Sorry for the inconvenience!

I was also told by a Toshiba rep.

The 51GB HDDVD discs will come out when the 200GB Blu-ray discs do.

Thanks Disney for pushing the PQ and AQ as far as humanly possible.

The 51GB HDDVD discs will come out when the 200GB Blu-ray discs do.

You mean never, right. Do I get a prize now. :D :D :D

Cars DVD was Full 16:9. I suspect all animation films from Disney will be the same and not theatrical with black bars.

Cars DVD has a 2.35:1 aspect ratio that was conserved. I'm watching it right now. Don't know what you're watching. Same with many of the other Pixar films I've seen, most recently The Incredibles. Not sure your assupmtions are correct.

Least favorite Pixar movie and I am still going to buy it. (not bad just really stiff competition). I really do like the short though.

Bring on the rest asap!


We are a disney family, went to WDW twice last year, strongly considering the DVC, already booked the next trip.

We own lots of new and old disney animated and live action movies, and I will buy every single one that comes out on BD. That way we can just leave the rest in the Odyssey.

Least favorite Pixar movie and I am still going to buy it. (not bad just really stiff competition). I really do like the short though.

Bring on the rest asap!


Yeah I think it's the worst Pixar movie ever and even worse than some animation Films from other studios. I want to see Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo and the Incredibles getting the same treatment as Cars.

If there's any question what is the best movie studio in regards to HD content and quality video transfers, lets put it to rest right now. Buena Vista is committed to the HD format in a big way. Not only will the two PotC movies both come in 2 BD discs, Cars will also join PotC and come on 2 BD discs ...if Mr. Hunt is to be believed that is.

I'm sure Mr. BluRay Hunt is besides himself with excitment!


It begs the question ...how will Disney go neutral now with the measly capacity of HD DVD ...a 4 disc set for HD DVD? :D

They would actually have to use a codec that was developed in the last 10 years that is actually efficient!

;)

They would actually have to use a codec that was developed in the last 10 years that is actually efficient!


Have you missed that Disney recently moved to AVC? I doubt they will go with MPEG2 on this...

But I thought 50GB was enough for everything :rolleyes:

Let's try to keep this thread civil.

When HD DVD needs two discs, it's because of space limitations. When BD needs two discs, it means... well, it's just a really good thing.

2 Discs = We can charge $39.99 for it!

Pass on this lame ass movie. Even if I had kids I would not buy them a $40 BR instead of a $10 DVD...there not gonna notice the difference and I'm not sitting through it.

which won't be playable? :rolleyes:

currently there is no HD DVD player that'll play multiple layer discs higher than 30GB
Wrong, the 2nd gen players will play triple layer discs. The Toshiba Canada website confirms this.

Cars DVD was Full 16:9. I suspect all animation films from Disney will be the same and not theatrical with black bars.
That's not true, Cars was 2.35:1 and I watched it last week. If it's not you having a bad memory, then you probably watched it stretched... ick.

2 Discs = We can charge $39.99 for it!

Pass on this lame ass movie. Even if I had kids I would not buy them a $40 BR instead of a $10 DVD...there not gonna notice the difference and I'm not sitting through it.

Hmm, The POTC movies are on two discs and they're $34.99 list. Betcha Cars will be the same.

And, the POTC movies are both $23.95 on Amazon ($1 cheaper than their price for the two-disc DVD, by the way)

Cars on Amazon is $16.99, for a single disc DVD btw so your price comparison is just silly. The BD will be $7 more for a LOT more content.

I wish they released incredibles or nemo instead of cars :(

Incredibles, Fiding Nemo & Monsters, Inc are the best looking Pixar titles IMO. But they have to start somewhere. :)

2 Discs = We can charge $39.99 for it!

Pass on this lame ass movie. Even if I had kids I would not buy them a $40 BR instead of a $10 DVD...there not gonna notice the difference and I'm not sitting through it.

You've been buying DVD's for how long and you still dont know how MSRP works?

Cars DVD has a 2.35:1 aspect ratio that was conserved. I'm watching it right now. Don't know what you're watching. Same with many of the other Pixar films I've seen, most recently The Incredibles. Not sure your assupmtions are correct.

Sorry if I made that mistake. Finding Nemo is the title I was reffering to. That is full 16:9 which may or may not have been theatrical. However I watched Cars on a 100 inch wide projector screen so it did fill up the whole screen.

You've been buying DVD's for how long and you still dont know how MSRP works?

Yes, I do. Its different with HD/BR because there is rarely 'weekly specials' like with DVDs. A MSRP DVD of $29.99 is $14.99 at Best Buy. A MSRP BR of $29.99 is...well, $29.99. Not everyone shops at Amazon (or so they know? Whats the consensus this week?)

You are right, I did edit it, my bad! :)

Anyway, current model Toshibas won't play any discs that has more than 2 layers. I saw an article about it once, I'll try and dig it up. Sorry for the inconvenience!

I was also told by a Toshiba rep.

Waiting....

Woot! Starz just solved my Cars issue!

Cars? It a damn cartoon for little kids, Why all the hoopla? I thought most of you were older than 6.

HD DUD? I guess cars will be on your all time hit list huh Bland. It's in your age group and level of maturity.

I'll never understand why some people tend to take this hobby a bit too seriously.

I'll never understand why some people tend to take this hobby a bit too seriously.
I'm a bit confused by it as well.

Cars? It a damn cartoon for little kids, Why all the hoopla? I thought most of you were older than 6.

HD DUD? I guess cars will be on your all time hit list huh Bland. It's in your age group and level of maturity.

My grandmother at 90 likes watching animated shows, what's your beef with people who enjoy a good story and good animation?

My grandmother at 90 likes watching animated shows, what's your beef with people who enjoy a good story and good animation?

I don't have a problem with animation, I'm a 3d artist by trade. The target audience for this film is kids and having it in HD is nice, but hardly needed. Why upgrade the dvd, which sold more than a few, for someone that can't know or care about the difference. I guess a good story is subjective to your age group and film preference and I don't buy HD just to buy HD. I'm trying to be selective this time around.

If you feel it's worth a purchase then by all means, buy it. I will not think any less of you.:) But why do all these threads end up being about mine is bigger than yours?

If I see something I want to buy, I will simply buy it and enjoy it. If it's HD DVD then fine. If it's BR then thats fine as well. I'm nolonger interested in argueing mine is bigger than yours. I just want to watch quality films done right on whichever format does it right.

I don't have a problem with animation, I'm a 3d artist by trade. The target audience for this film is kids and having it in HD is nice, but hardly needed.

I bet ya there are a lot of people who are kids at heart :p

Honestly, I saw Dinosaur in blu-ray and the thing was amazing....I also liked Monster House and Ice Age 2......I can't wait to see other recent high-end animation in HD.....

I'd pay double for those titles.


You may just get that opportunity.

I heard that computer animated movies would not make too much of a difference on a hi-def format versus the standard format....is that true?

I bet ya there are a lot of people who are kids at heart :p

Honestly, I saw Dinosaur in blu-ray and the thing was amazing....I can't wait to see other recent high-end animation in HD.....

I guess we wouldn't be in this hobby if we weren't.:) I agree that Dinasour looks good! But it looked good on DVD as well.

Disney prices 2-disc sets of Pirates of the Caribbean for $34.99. Yet Fox charges $39.99 for Chain Reaction? I really wish they would lower their pricing on their catalog titles. Sheesh.

Disney is certainly becoming the best BD studio. Their prices are good, their content is good, they actually put extras on the disc, and the audio/video is solid.

I heard that computer animated movies would not make too much of a difference on a hi-def format versus the standard format....is that true?

It's a subjective matter. Computer animated shows *can* look stunning in HD... but many of them already look fantanstic in SD.

If you look at many HD/SD comparisons, what you'll probably find is that HD exhibits the most improvement in wide shots which contain lots of small object details. Close-ups shots often appear to have a lesser degree of improvement.

In general, there is less overall detail in animation (both CG & traditional). Thus, as with close-up shots in non-animated film, benefits from HD sometimes appear less because SD is already fairly sufficient at handling the image.

Even with lowever overall detail though, HD offers signficant improvements over SD in terms of color reproduction that can have a dramatic impact on the image. I would check out Tim Burton's Corpse Bride as an example (available on both formats). A recent CG animation with lots of details, it already looks really good in SD, but even better in HD.

I think the point here in the Blu ray Software forum is that Blu Ray player owners have something to enjoy....... movies. That's why we support this format: movies, movies, movies. Since you find it necessary to knock Blu Ray down a notch for releasing first rate titles, it is obvious that since HD DUD has no titles to watch, you have a lot of time on your hands to post here...

You can complain about he Cars release, but I'll look forward to watching it in full 1080P HD and uncompressed master quality sound.

No one said anything about knocking Blu-ray down for having titles; on the contrary, what he was saying was that the OP shouldn't be taking a cheap shot at HD DVD in a thread he claimed to be about the Cars release. No one is complaining about Cars. That's crazy.

What the post insinuated was that MPEG2 is not an advanced codec, that it uses space inefficiently. Basically, that Blu-ray's 50GB capacity is being wasted by Disney as an excuse to use 2 discs when they could very well fit all the stuff on just one if they used a more "modern, efficent" video codec. Whether or not that's true is up for debate, but none of that could possibly be attributed as whining that Blu-ray Disc is getting Cars and HD DVD isn't.

It's a subjective matter. Computer animated shows *can* look stunning in HD... but many of them already look fantanstic in SD.

If you look at many HD/SD comparisons, what you'll probably find is that HD exhibits the most improvement in wide shots which contain lots of small object details. Close-ups shots often appear to have a lesser degree of improvement.

In general, there is less overall detail in animation (both CG & traditional). Thus, as with close-up shots in non-animated film, benefits from HD sometimes appear less because SD is already fairly sufficient at handling the image.

Even with lowever overall detail though, HD offers signficant improvements over SD in terms of color reproduction that can have a dramatic impact on the image. I would check out Tim Burton's Corpse Bride as an example (available on both formats). A recent CG animation with lots of details, it already looks really good in SD, but even better in HD.

Completely agree with you there. A lot of older animated films may not have as drastic a change, but the newer ones (such as Open Season) most certainly do. Another thing to take into account about HD formats is that the newer transfers may also happen to be done with better care, since with this higher resolution, we can see more critical flaws in the transfers. Which brings me to the fact that I really wish Criterion would start doing HD telecine transfers.

The target audience for this film is kids and having it in HD is nice, but hardly needed. Why upgrade the dvd, which sold more than a few, for someone that can't know or care about the difference.

Please, stop the logic. Reminds me of when someone broght over a box of Godiva chocolates at this dinner I was at, and a 5 year old kid ate half of them. The kid could just as well have eaten M&M's.

It's a subjective matter. Computer animated shows *can* look stunning in HD... but many of them already look fantanstic in SD.

If you look at many HD/SD comparisons, what you'll probably find is that HD exhibits the most improvement in wide shots which contain lots of small object details. Close-ups shots often appear to have a lesser degree of improvement.

In general, there is less overall detail in animation (both CG & traditional). Thus, as with close-up shots in non-animated film, benefits from HD sometimes appear less because SD is already fairly sufficient at handling the image.

Even with lowever overall detail though, HD offers signficant improvements over SD in terms of color reproduction that can have a dramatic impact on the image. I would check out Tim Burton's Corpse Bride as an example (available on both formats). A recent CG animation with lots of details, it already looks really good in SD, but even better in HD.


Thank you very much for the insight obispo. I appreciate it.

Well i guess this is another Double-Dip for me from SD to HD. I liked the movie and looked pretty awesome upconverted on my HD-A1 but come on HD is well AWESOME!!!. I have to totally agree with the Corpse Bride comment from the good DVD look it had to the mind blowing look it had in its HD source (got it on HD-DVD) The detail improvement and colour was just great and Remains of the Day song is a Demo worthy moment for any one thinking about buying the HD market whether it's for Blu-ray or HD-DVD.

So i guess the Blu-ray release will have all the features that the SD version lacked in like an audio commentary and making of moments, I just hope they don't include anything with Randy Newman