Ok, I'm sure this thread will be deleted, but the idea behind it could possibly be entertaining to all of us that spend every bit of our free time on here.

Let's pretend the public took notice of the format war and took it as serious as many of us. Even better, let's say the fate of humanity was linked to which format won, and each side was ready to fight in a battle to the death. Which forum members would you imagine filling the shoes of a general ready to lead his army into battle? Who would be the greatest warrior of each side? Who would be the philospher that wanted peace, not war? And who would be behind the scene, manipulating the war and using everyone else like pawns in a game of chess? Feel free to add any other category you'd like.... the more the merrier.

Once again, this is not a flame war thread meant to cause disruption amongst everyone. This is supposed to be fun, and with all the constant bickering going on here lately, I think many of us have lost touch with what 'fun' means. So, with that being said, let's here your lineup.

I like fun. So for the sake of fun Id jump in and go to war.

I like fun. So for the sake of fun Id jump in and go to war.

And who would you pick as the generals for HD & BR? I would pick thebland to lead the BR army. His quick wit and sarcastic humor could easily overtake many of the opposing HD leaders. However, plazman could lead the HD army with his humble yet stern tactics, crush the BR army, and invade thebland's wine cellar. The reds would celebrate with some of the finest wine available.

Just for fun, I would pick Kosty and Darinp as the two generals. (insiders excluded)

Why exclude the insiders. I see amirm leading his small, but highly trained army against numerically superior blue forces led by paidgeek, TalkStr8t, and Penton Man.

If ya mix red and blue, you get purple. So, I intend to get a purple camoflauge outfit, a raspberry beret, and a smart looking riding crop. I'll be leading the brigade of Format Neutrali-nistas off to Switzerland for a film festival and love-in. Peace out! ;)

Just for fun, I would pick Kosty and Darinp as the two generals. (insiders excluded) Darinp and I would never go to war on each other, however the detailed negotiations would go on for years, including much needed expensive catering and an extensive wine list. :) :D

We're natural long term allies anyway as we both love home theater and front projectors showing movies on huge screens.

We both want HD goodness to come to the masses, its just that at the moment we differ on what format will bring that result and the significance of the Blu-ray capacity and bandwidth advantages.

But both of us will have HD DVD and Blu-ray players in our personal home theaters eventually. He already does. I will when I find one I think has BD Live capability at a fair price.

I just think the player and disc economics and niche title potential of HD DVD with 30GB and VC-1 disc performance trump the studio and specs advantage of Blu-ray.

I also like traditional rustic barn red more than Pepsi techy blue.

Besides. I like to keep on Darinp's good side. ;)

Ever notice that Coke and Pepsi are Blue and Red too?

Very subtle advertising and marketing point.

In both the "Cola Wars" and the HD Format Wars" anyone notice that the major camps on both sides have chosen variations of the colors blue and red?

And that the camp that wants to sell more to youth and to a edgier culture choose blue in both cases and the side that that is more evolutionary and traditional and wants to extend its traditional brand appeal to a new level choose a red color?

There's a reason for that, and it explains a lot of the format's strategy.

Dark red implies strength stabilty seriousness leadership harvest, depth of stability, deeply rooted committment (farmers to the land) power, long term persistance More sense of long term even temper emotional stability like a marriage. Appeals to traditionals and both sexes. Stability, evolution with the best of the old becoming better.


The Blue in Blu-ray is less precise because its used so much but it implies purity and intellect over emotion. Favored among young males. High tech . Change Progress. Yet overuse has made it a safe color choice for corporate America



http://www.stanford.edu/class/lingu...t_13/colors.htm

In the sample of alcohol advertisements, red, black and blue were predominantly used. The bold, eye-catching reds were mostly an amber hue, the color of many of the products (whiskey and beer) themselves. Using the rich reds and ambers, advertisers could convey a sense of weight and even taste to the readers. Blue hues were mostly seen in in advertisements for clear liquors, such as vodka. Blues evoke a cool, clean, smooth sensation that vodka companies may want to associate with their products. Lastly, the use of black connotes the nightlife and sophistication in which alcohol may be consumed.



http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-meaning.html

Red is the color of fire and blood, so it is associated with energy, war, danger, strength, power, determination as well as passion, desire, and love.

Red is a very emotionally intense color. It enhances human metabolism, increases respiration rate, and raises blood pressure. It has very high visibility, which is why stop signs, stoplights, and fire equipment are usually painted red. In heraldry, red is used to indicate courage. It is a color found in many national flags.

Dark red is associated with vigor, willpower, rage, anger, leadership, courage, longing, malice, and wrath.
Brown suggests stability and denotes masculine qualities.
Reddish-brown is associated with harvest and fall. (DEK Note: Strength Stability)


Blue is the color of the sky and sea. It is often associated with depth and stability. It symbolizes trust, loyalty, wisdom, confidence, intelligence, faith, truth, and heaven.

Blue is considered beneficial to the mind and body. It slows human metabolism and produces a calming effect. Blue is strongly associated with tranquility and calmness. In heraldry, blue is used to symbolize piety and sincerity.

You can use blue to promote products and services related to cleanliness (water purification filters, cleaning liquids, vodka), air and sky (airlines, airports, air conditioners), water and sea (sea voyages, mineral water). As opposed to emotionally warm colors like red, orange, and yellow; blue is linked to consciousness and intellect. Use blue to suggest precision when promoting high-tech products.

Blue is a masculine color; according to studies, it is highly accepted among males. Dark blue is associated with depth, expertise, and stability; it is a preferred color for corporate America.

Avoid using blue when promoting food and cooking, because blue suppresses appetite. When used together with warm colors like yellow or red, blue can create high-impact, vibrant designs; for example, blue-yellow-red is a perfect color scheme for a superhero.

Light blue is associated with health, healing, tranquility, understanding, and softness.
Dark blue represents knowledge, power, integrity, and seriousness

The colors imply the strategy. Dark red involves broad base implying evolutionary improvement. perfect compliment to brand name HD DVD. Perfect choice for broad based mass adoption. Perfect choice for HD DVD PRG and Toshiba strategy.

Blue is perfect choice to appeal to young male gamers and for sales of hot hit titles. More revenue based on hits, don't really care about mass adoption as long as it makes money. Will be around as long as hits makes money, but color is a negative for mass adoption iniitially as it is edgier but coul mutate into safe corporate America usage. Perfect complement for BDA strategy. problem is getting initial startup to work to evolve into long term usage.

Blu-ray logo is edgy and disruptive, overridding the trust aspect. A big fat logo would imply trust. They went for young male tech edgy hot new I want my hit now colors.

Like I said, its interesting to me the colors match the strategy.

Re: More red and blue just FYI

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think traditional rural barns painted rustic barnyard red

http://people.howstuffworks.com/question635.htm

http://www.northerncrown.com/wallpa...er_red_barn.jpg

http://www.gadgetizer.com/images/hd...uartjohnson.jpg

Notice any similarity in the colors?

http://amos.indiana.edu/library/scripts/redbarns.html

If ya mix red and blue, you get purple. So, I intend to get a purple camoflauge outfit, a raspberry beret, and a smart looking riding crop. I'll be leading the brigade of Format Neutrali-nistas off to Switzerland for a film festival and love-in. Peace out! ;) I think I would pay good money to see that. :D

Fun thread and good posts there Kosty !!

We all love HT and we are all starved for the best quality HD.

Lets not forget the "red" and "blue" political analogies either.

Democrats = Blue

Republicans = Red

Are you from a "red" state or a "blue" state? It is strange how these colors pop-up in our culture frequently when dealing with different forms of competition. After seeing how colors are represented in this post, my dedication to Blu-ray becomes even stronger :)

~Josh

I picture Art Sonnerborn as one of the puppet masters behind the scene. Kind of like the "company" in Prison Break and Heroes, or the Patriots in the Metal Gear franchise. He's got that sneaky look on his picture that says, "Haha, you peons! I will manipulate you and use your resources to build an even more impressive theater than the one I already own!"

It is strange how these colors pop-up in our culture frequently when dealing with different forms of competition.

How about Walmart & Kmart? Circuit City & Best Buy?

Lets not forget the "red" and "blue" political analogies either.

Democrats = Blue

Republicans = Red

Are you from a "red" state or a "blue" state? It is strange how these colors pop-up in our culture frequently when dealing with different forms of competition. After seeing how colors are represented in this post, my dedication to Blu-ray becomes even stronger :)

~Josh

Yet I totally think of SONY/BD as Republican, right down to the "thou shall not put porn on my disk." I know many look at HD-DVD and see Microsoft, but they aren't tossing around the hardball rhetoric I more commonly associate with Republican campaigning the way SONY and FOX do. BD has done everything short of saying HD-DVD is gay, and supporting it will embolden the terrorists, & erode family values.

HD-DVD comes off more "apple-friendly" to me (who's only ever owned a Macs in 14 years).

Lets not forget the "red" and "blue" political analogies either.

Democrats = Blue

Republicans = Red

~Josh

Up until a few years ago, it was just the opposite. Most election maps were the other way around.

1. The DVD Forum is like the UN

2. The format war is like the war in Iraq

3. The companies supporting Sony is the coalition of the willing in Iraq. Also, coalition supporters were promised first dibs on the spoils of war - BD by Sony, Iraq by Bush.

3. Sony is like the Bush Admin

4. Bush declares Mission Accomplished, so does Sony

5. Bush spending huge amounts on war, Sony spending huge amounts on war.

6. Bush promises to stay on course, same for Sony

7. UK to pull back troops, Fox cancels or pulls back titles

8. Sony's actions of dismissing the DVD Forum is similar to what the Bush administration did to wage war against UN sanction, by considering it a useless body, while being a part of it.

I am sure the parallels go on and on......

Plazman
Thats explain studio canals support for HD DVD. ;)

But seriosly, can we please avoid politics in this tread from now on...

I agree. We should avoid politics. But we need to be aware that BDA is primarily about politics. Unfortunately.