I have a 1440x1080 or so Dish Mpeg4 file which after I've run it thru tsmuxer plays fine on my PS3 until it hits a glitch in the video stream.
The PS3 is fussy about compliant videos. Wish there was a tool like MPEG2Repair for MPEG4/AVC streams.

hi burn the disc and i forgot to close the disc is there anyway to close the disc now
plese help me

Anybody

Will PS3 play Blu-ray Rewritable 50GB Dual Layer and Blu-ray Write-Once 50GB Dual Layer Discs? They are very expensive and I want to find out before burning my SD home videos on them. BD burner MATSHITA BD-RE UJ-220 ATA on dell 1525 laptop.
Roxio creator premier blu-ray 10.1 which recommends BDAV RE format.
Is it mandatory to have 50GB free space to burn 50GB?

Yes, I've burned one 50GB Sony BD-R in my LG burner. It was an AVC movie w/o menus. Played fine on the PS3.

I have used a Panasonic BD-RE 50 successfully in the PS3 and Panasonic player (BD10).

thank you Brajesh and Phloyd. Is the free HDD space size of the BD a must requirement or a suggestion?

Hello, everyone.

Right now, I'm looking at the great guide of MozartMan.
This step by step guide is awesome!!
But I have some questions.

What I want to do is as follows.
I have HDV digital camcor (Canon HV30) and Blu-ray Player (PS3).
I want to edit my videos and add menus and chapters.
I want to burn it as a blu-ray disc (not as a data disc).
Then play it on my PS3.

But I wonder why making AVCHD over Blu-ray?
And what programs do I need? Ulead MF6+, Tsmuxer, VideoReDo and more??

I remember there were many problems about playing BDMV on PS3 at the beginning of this thread.
But I was away from this thread for a very very long time.
I guess you guys made it work finally!!

Is the free HDD space size of the BD a must requirement or a suggestion?
I'd think you'll need at least as much (if not more) free space on your hard drive to burn that amount of data to BD-R.

But I wonder why making AVCHD over Blu-ray?
If you're using BD-Rs, you don't need MozartMan's guide. His wonderful guide is for burning a Blu-ray structure w/menus on plain ol' DVD-Rs. The PS3 and BD players won't recognize a Blu-ray structure on anything but BD-Rs, so MozartMan's guide tricks the PS3 and BD players into thinking they're seeing an AVCHD structure and auto-playing it. AVCHD on DVD-Rs is allowed by Blu-ray spec.

And what programs do I need? Ulead MF6+, Tsmuxer, VideoReDo and more??
Since you have an HDV cam, not an AVCHD cam, your footage is MPEG2. You can use VideoRedo (MPEG2VCR is another option) to edit, then use your .mpg or .ts file to create a Blu-ray structure using MozartMan's guide on a regular DVD-R. If you don't need menus, it's even easier. See my sig for that guide.

I'd think you'll need at least as much (if not more) free space on your hard drive to burn that amount of data to BD-R.


If you're using BD-Rs, you don't need MozartMan's guide. His wonderful guide is for burning a Blu-ray structure w/menus on plain ol' DVD-Rs. The PS3 and BD players won't recognize a Blu-ray structure on anything but BD-Rs, so MozartMan's guide tricks the PS3 and BD players into thinking they're seeing an AVCHD structure and auto-playing it. AVCHD on DVD-Rs is allowed by Blu-ray spec.


Since you have an HDV cam, not an AVCHD cam, your footage is MPEG2. You can use VideoRedo (MPEG2VCR is another option) to edit, then use your .mpg or .ts file to create a Blu-ray structure using MozartMan's guide on a regular DVD-R. If you don't need menus, it's even easier. See my sig for that guide.

Thank you so much!
It helped a lot!

Great. Here's the MozartMan guide (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13065746&postcount=1112) I was referring to BTW.

Howdy,

I've been reading this thread from the beginning (has it been edited BTW, I see replies with posts I don't remember reading?) and it kind of reminds me about opening the wild west.

Anyway, I've only made it to page 33 so I've a ways to go yet, but I haven't seen this question posted.

Has anyone tried taking a 480 DV camcorder AVI file (about 12Gb for an hour) and doing a Blu Ray (on BD-R or BD-RE) yet? I can do DVD9's until the cows come home but it still compresses the file.

Would it even work?

I'm going to go back and see what happens in the next thrilling installment....

Seggers

[QUOTE=Brajesh;13874486]I'd think you'll need at least as much (if not more) free space on your hard drive to burn that amount of data to BD-R.

Thank you
I was able to burn BD-RE 25 GB with no menu and it plays fine in ps3. But with menu I got format error after successfully encoding in Roxio MyDVDbluray. Maybe I need BD-R for menu bluray?
any advise on external fire wire hard drive or better to keep captured video for bluray. My Internal is 120GB and fills quickly in my 1525 laptop.

What is weird is, after the video comes to a finish, it starts right back up. Similar to being in continous play. Is this normal?

Or should video just stop?

Yes. This is how author of TSRemux programmed it.

Try tsMuxer: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104

So I finally get around to doing this. Using TSMuxer 1.84 on a different piece of video, but get the exact same result. Video gets to the end, and it loops back to the start. This is a no menu AVCHD.

What am I doing wrong?

And yes, title repeat is set to "off" on PS3

So I finally get around to doing this. Using TSMuxer 1.84 on a different piece of video, but get the exact same result. Video gets to the end, and it loops back to the start. This is a no menu AVCHD.

What am I doing wrong?

And yes, title repeat is set to "off" on PS3

I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think TSRemux and tsMuxer programed the same way: video loops. It is probably because there is no menu.

When I author Blu-ray or AVCHD project in Ulead MF6+ I have options for the video:

Continue to the next video
Go back to the menu

I don't think you are doing anything wrong. I think TSRemux and tsMuxer programed the same way: video loops. It is probably because there is no menu.

When I author Blu-ray or AVCHD project in Ulead MF6+ I have options for the video:

Continue to the next video
Go back to the menu
Guess I will have to figure out how to get menus working now :(

From what I have seen in your guide, it is a lot more work.

Guess I will have to figure out how to get menus working now :(

As far as I remember neither TSRemux nor tsMuxer support menus.

From what I have seen in your guide, it is a lot more work.

Not really.

[QUOTE=Brajesh;13874486]I'd think you'll need at least as much (if not more) free space on your hard drive to burn that amount of data to BD-R.

Thank you
I was able to burn BD-RE 25 GB with no menu and it plays fine in ps3. But with menu I got format error after successfully encoding in Roxio MyDVDbluray. Maybe I need BD-R for menu bluray?
any advise on external fire wire hard drive to keep captured video for bluray. My Internal is 120GB and fills quickly

Woo-hoo! Got it to work using a slight modification to Tom's method. Tried 4 different TS files that previously resulted in stutters w/o audio on the PS3. Now they all play perfectly. Tried DVD+RW, DVD+R SL and a DVD-R DL.

Here's my workflow, which is very similar to Tom's.


Take your hi-def capture and run it through VideoRedo (VRD). MPEG2VCR also works according to MozartMan, but I find VRD better. Cut out segments you don't want. Click 'Save As...' and choose 'Transport Stream (*.ts)' for output. Before this, if you haven't done so just once before, after you open VRD, click 'Tools', then while holding down the 'Shift' key, choose 'Options'. This gives you extra setup options. Find the line 'Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs' and enable it to 'True'.
Run your VRD-generated TS through Ulead DVD Movie Factory 6+ with their HD Power Pack (http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1190954650114) plug-in. It costs $20, but Google "ulead coupon" and you might find a 10% off coupon as I did. Start the Ulead launcher w/o any disc in your drive. Click 'New Video Project' button, then click 'OK' to choose your drive, then choose 'Blu-ray' with 'BDMV' option and click 'OK'. Once you're in, disable menu option and don't add any chapters.
Run your Ulead-generated M2TS file (in the BDMV/STREAM folder) through TSRemux v0.0.18 with the 'Blu-Ray' output option to another folder on your hard drive. Set chapter markers to however many minutes you want.
Delete 0001.m2ts from the TSRemux-generated BDMV/STREAM folder and copy over 0000.m2ts from the Ulead-generated BDMV/STREAM folder. Rename 0000.m2ts to 0001.m2ts.
Burn the TSRemux 'BDMV' and 'CERTIFICATE' folders to any DVD media with Nero 7 or 8. Make sure you choose 'DVD-ROM (UDF)', then under the 'UDF' tab, choose 'Manual settings' and 'Physical partition' with 'UDF 2.50'.
Perfect playback w/DD 2.0 or 5.1 audio on the PS3 with chapters and smooth forward/reverse scan. No menus, but I don't need them.



Brajesh, thanks for the guide!
However, as I am doing this I have a few questions.

What you are doing - does it reduce size of the file so it can fit on DVD9 DL and then be playable on stand alone BD ? That's what I am after, can you please help me. I have a .ts file from HD PVR and I would like to convert it to DVD9 DL without loosing too much quality - can I do that or it method that you are describing simply leaves 15GB file that you can copy to BD disc and then watch on Blu Ray stand alone player. I am confused a bit - perhaps I am lacking some details within your steps ???

Please help,
Nikonowski

No, the process involves no re-encoding. To reduce size, you'll need to use an encoding tool. You might want to look at the 'tools' section at videohelp.com. Good luck. I use Nero Recode myself these days to recode to MPEG4AVC, but it allows for MPEG2 as well.

BTW, here a little guide (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13969886&postcount=9) for creating AVCHD discs w/or w/o a menu using HD clips from the new Canon/Panasonic/Sony AVCHD camcorders or another source for MPEG4AVC.

No, the process involves no re-encoding. To reduce size, you'll need to use an encoding tool. You might want to look at the 'tools' section at videohelp.com. Good luck. I use Nero Recode myself these days to recode to MPEG4AVC, but it allows for MPEG2 as well.

Thanks Brajesh !

I am after the best quality possible that can fit on regular DVD DL disc. I have a feeling that with AVCHD/Blu Ray/HDDVD formats you cannot really reduce size without loosing quality - am I correct ? Is MPEG4AVC any better and if so is there a guide to convert .ts or MPEG2 HD file to that format ? Are there any other alternatives that exist today for keeping 1920X1080 resolution that allow me to fit about 2 hours of video/audio on 8.5GB DL DVD disc ? Or am I dreaming ? I heard that there are such things as DivxHD and WMFHD - what tools can I use to convert my .ts or MPEG2 HD files into these formats ? How long does it take etc...

Thanks for your help in advance,
Nikonowski

I've converted my 1440x1080i MPEG2 (25mbps CBR) camcorder footage to AVC at 1920x1080p (15mbps VBR) using Nero Recode, and they look virtually identical to me. I'm using front projection w/a 106" screen. This way, I can put more on a SL or DL DVD w/o spreading the footage over two discs.

With Nero Recode, if you set the priority to 'high' or 'above normal' (unsure what it's called right now), the encoding time isn't bad. I have a 2.33GHz Core2Duo PC w/4 gigs of RAM.

I use ripbot264. Though it takes 14 hours on my 2.5 Ghz Core 2 Duo w/ 4gigs RAM, the quality is incredible.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127611

Thanks Brajesh !

I am after the best quality possible that can fit on regular DVD DL disc. I have a feeling that with AVCHD/Blu Ray/HDDVD formats you cannot really reduce size without loosing quality - am I correct ? Is MPEG4AVC any better and if so is there a guide to convert .ts or MPEG2 HD file to that format ? Are there any other alternatives that exist today for keeping 1920X1080 resolution that allow me to fit about 2 hours of video/audio on 8.5GB DL DVD disc ? Or am I dreaming ? I heard that there are such things as DivxHD and WMFHD - what tools can I use to convert my .ts or MPEG2 HD files into these formats ? How long does it take etc...

Thanks for your help in advance,
Nikonowski

I've converted my 1440x1080i MPEG2 (25mbps CBR) camcorder footage to AVC at 1920x1080p (15mbps VBR) using Nero Recode, and they look virtually identical to me. I'm using front projection w/a 106" screen. This way, I can put more on a SL or DL DVD w/o spreading the footage over two discs.

With Nero Recode, if you set the priority to 'high' or 'above normal' (unsure what it's called right now), the encoding time isn't bad. I have a 2.33GHz Core2Duo PC w/4 gigs of RAM.

Great , thanks - I would try that. A few more questions - can you then play that AVC disk in Blue ray or HDDVD stand alone players ?

Any benchamarks on teh actual encoding times and what would the size be after conversion. For example , I have 15GB .ts file converted to MPEG2 and it is about 2 hours. How much time would this take with Nero Recode and what size of the final file should I be expecting ?

Thanks again,
Marek

I use ripbot264. Though it takes 14 hours on my 2.5 Ghz Core 2 Duo w/ 4gigs RAM, the quality is incredible.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127611

Great , thanks - I would try that. A few more questions - what file extension do you get is it .avi ? Is it AVC h.264 format ? And also can you then play that AVC disk in Blue ray or HDDVD stand alone players ?

Any benchamarks on teh actual encoding times and what would the size be after conversion. For example , I have 15GB .ts file converted to MPEG2 and it is about 2 hours. How much time would this take with Nero Recode and what size of the final file should I be expecting ?

Thanks again,
Marek

It supports .mp4, .mkv, and blueray structure.
If I want to create a single layer DVD5, I do following:
Choose Blueray output
Choose 2 pass encoding
Lock Size, and type in 4440 (4480 does not fit on my disc)
Hit Video-Properties. If it is a 1080i, I tell it to de-interlace (have not had luck with auto detect)
Burn output using Nero Burning ROM w/ UDF2.5

Thats about it. I start it at 8pm, and by 10am, it is done. That is for a 2 hour mpeg.


And yes, any of the 3 choices will produce an h.264 file that can play on the PS3

Great , thanks - I would try that. A few more questions - what file extension do you get is it .avi ? Is it AVC h.264 format ? And also can you then play that AVC disk in Blue ray or HDDVD stand alone players ?

Any benchamarks on teh actual encoding times and what would the size be after conversion. For example , I have 15GB .ts file converted to MPEG2 and it is about 2 hours. How much time would this take with Nero Recode and what size of the final file should I be expecting ?

Thanks again,
Marek

I've converted my 1440x1080i MPEG2 (25mbps CBR) camcorder footage to AVC at 1920x1080p (15mbps VBR) using Nero Recode, and they look virtually identical to me. I'm using front projection w/a 106" screen. This way, I can put more on a SL or DL DVD w/o spreading the footage over two discs.

With Nero Recode, if you set the priority to 'high' or 'above normal' (unsure what it's called right now), the encoding time isn't bad. I have a 2.33GHz Core2Duo PC w/4 gigs of RAM.

Can you please provide step by step guide (or link to the guide) on how to convert HD MPEG2 file to AVC/h.264 format using Nero Recode - once again , I am after the best quality possible and the format that I can burn onto DVD 9 and play it in stand alone blue ray players .

Thanks do much,
Nikonowski

Let's see if I recall off the top of my head (not at my machine right now)...

Open Nero Recode (part of Nero 8 suite). On its start screen, choose 'Recode DVDs and Videos to Nero Digital'. Click 'Import Files' w/the green '+' button. Once clip has been imported, choose the PS3 AVC profile (one of the preset profiles already there), then make any adjustments you want for video/audio/target size/etc., then click 'Next' and burn to hard drive. The re-encoding process will take hours, especially if you do a two-pass for highest quality, then you'll end up with an MP4 file w/AAC audio.

I take the Nero-generated MP4 file and demux it using Yamb. I also demux the original MPEG2 file and demux it using TSMuxer or TSRemux. I then use an audio encoder (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/audio-encoders) (like eac3to or ffmpegGUI) to convert the original MPEG audio to AC3. Finally, I mux the AC3 file and the h264 file (by Yamb) via TSMuxer to output a Blu-ray structure.

Hi, I've been away for a while and missed some posts here. Trying to reread again but I have some questions that I can't find the answers.
Since I have ordered the HDV Sony HC9 (mpeg2) camcorder I wonder if the Ulead DMF 6 plus with the HD plugin can make AVCHD DVD+DL working directly with mpeg2 (no recompressing to avc)? Is it possible?

I have played around with TSremux and works great for my PS3 with mpeg2 25MBs files.
Is there any other way to include some menus also in the DVD+DL AVCHD?

If you don't need a menu and have a single clip, use TSRemux or TSMuxer to create a Blu-ray structure out of your MPEG2 clip. Both programs will create an AVCHD structure around that MPEG2 so the PS3/BD players are tricked into seeing an AVCHD even though what's inside is really MPEG2.

Since I have ordered the HDV Sony HC9 (mpeg2) camcorder I wonder if the Ulead DMF 6 plus with the HD plugin can make AVCHD DVD+DL working directly with mpeg2 (no recompressing to avc)? Is it possible?

Yes, it is possible. Download my guide from this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13065746#post13065746

Hi All,
I'm wondering if anyone has any knowledge of of the spec requiring BDMV discs to have AACS for playback on standalone players. From what I have read the requirement was waived for a certain grace period to allow playback without the AACS encryption, but new FW updates and possibly new players are supposed to restrict this, and AACS must be present.

I've been using tsmuxer to make BDMV and burn to DVD5/9, and it works great in the Samsung 1200, if the FW is 2.2 or before. FW 2.3 won't play any BDMV on DVD+/-R. A few of us in the 1200 thread have experiened this, but aren't sure if it's Samsuck's incompetence, or bringing the player up to spec and purposely removing the BDMV play ability???

In my case it also brings up the question why BD-r burned as BDMV won't play in the player, is it the lack of AACS, or that the 1200 doesn't like the BD-r media I'm using. FWIW, the 1200 plays from a BD-re, but begins skipping and stuttering after about 35-40 minutes, again it could be a media issue with the 1200.

Anyone have any suggestions so what I make today will be compatible with players down the road in a few years. Menus would be nice, but not required. I haven't been to successful with AVCHD and BDAV using MF6+, so I would rather stick with BDMV format.

MozartMan, thanks for your guide. I think I will go for the TSMuxer way with no menus as I need DVD9 media. Since you also use Vegas as I do, I will render the whole timeline using ac3 2.0 audio 384Kbs and for video the template BluRay 1440x1080 50i upper field mpeg2 CBR 25Mbs.
Then to create the avchd in TSMuxer options (General tab Mux VBR, Mux CBR etc) should I use any particular option to match my HDV 1080 50i 25MBs project? What are those options used for anyway?
Thanks in advance

In an experiment I took an MPEG-2 transport stream and used VLC to convert the file from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4 (mpv4 setting) and mpga audio setting wrapped in a TS file. Renamed with an .MPG it played on my Sony BDP-300. With the same file I encoded again using the h264 (AVC) setting for video and it also played. There should also be a way to remux DivX files (h263) to look like MPEG-4 files. Correct me if I'm wrong but I would think that the h264 codec would be inclusive of the h263 methods. So far all I've found is a reference to a paper that infers that is possible.

Let's see if I recall off the top of my head (not at my machine right now)...

Open Nero Recode (part of Nero 8 suite). On its start screen, choose 'Recode DVDs and Videos to Nero Digital'. Click 'Import Files' w/the green '+' button. Once clip has been imported, choose the PS3 AVC profile (one of the preset profiles already there), then make any adjustments you want for video/audio/target size/etc., then click 'Next' and burn to hard drive. The re-encoding process will take hours, especially if you do a two-pass for highest quality, then you'll end up with an MP4 file w/AAC audio.

I take the Nero-generated MP4 file and demux it using Yamb. I also demux the original MPEG2 file and demux it using TSMuxer or TSRemux. I then use an audio encoder (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/audio-encoders) (like eac3to or ffmpegGUI) to convert the original MPEG audio to AC3. Finally, I mux the AC3 file and the h264 file (by Yamb) via TSMuxer to output a Blu-ray structure.

Thanks once again - I am trying your method right now. I choose to burn AVC PS3 file to DVD9. Will Nero recode make it a compliant disc to play in stand alone Blu Ray player when I choose that option. I want to be able to play this disc in the stand alone BD player.

Is the AVC Ps3 format different then Nero Recode digital format and if so, what's the difference - could I play the disc in the BD stand alone player if I used Nero Recode digital format vs. AVC PS3 format.

Sorry about silly questions but I am very new to this.

Thanks,
Nikonowski

Nero will spit out an MP4 file, which the PS3 will play as is off a USB drive or DVD-R, but to author it as an AVCHD disc, you need to demux it into separate video and audio streams using Yamb (freeware), convert the AAC audio to AC3, then mux the AC3 and video back into a Blu-ray structure using TSMuxer.

If you don't need a menu and have a single clip, use TSRemux or TSMuxer to create a Blu-ray structure out of your MPEG2 clip. Both programs will create an AVCHD structure around that MPEG2 so the PS3/BD players are tricked into seeing an AVCHD even though what's inside is really MPEG2.


TSMuxer does not create an mpeg2 Blu-ray hybrid AVCHD structure that autoplays for me in the PS3. Has this changed?

Edit: I mean, "won't autoplay from DVD5/9 media." Of course it would on BD media.

Nero will spit out an MP4 file, which the PS3 will play as is off a USB drive or DVD-R, but to author it as an AVCHD disc, you need to demux it into separate video and audio streams using Yamb (freeware), convert the AAC audio to AC3, then mux the AC3 and video back into a Blu-ray structure using TSMuxer.
Although it is slow, ripbot264 will copy the existing audio feed, keeping it as AC3. This removes the demux/mux step. While I would bet that the nero process is faster overall (even with extra steps), ripbot sure is easy.

TSMuxer does not create an mpeg2 Blu-ray hybrid AVCHD structure that autoplays for me in the PS3. Has this changed?

Edit: I mean, "won't autoplay from DVD5/9 media." Of course it would on BD media.

TSMuxer works for me on DVD5 w/ autoplay.
Have a burned DVD9 sitting in my laptop now to test, but am 2000 miles from home :(
Will pop it in on Wednesday night.

This is with PS3 and nero used for burning

Yup, TSMuxer's [v1.8.4] BD/AVCHD structure burned to DVD does autoplay for me.

Thanks GumboChief for suggesting ripbot264; I need to try it.

Well that is great news! My tsmuxer is 1.43 so I need to update it.

Thanks again guys!

If TSMuxer author adds the ability to create a very simply/crude text menu as some (myself included) have been pressing him to do, it would be an almost perfect one-stop tool.

It autoplays for me fine using latest version.

If TSMuxer author adds the ability to create a very simply/crude text menu as some (myself included) have been pressing him to do, it would be an almost perfect one-stop tool.

Does the author seem receptive to this enhancement?

If TSMuxer author adds the ability to create a very simply/crude text menu as some (myself included) have been pressing him to do, it would be an almost perfect one-stop tool.

It will be an almost perfect one-stop tool for me if it will just eliminate the step of having to pass m2t thru Ulead MF6+ (to get rid of the stutters) before the TSRemux AVCHD wrapping step.

And being able to put in exact chapter points is a huge plus as well.

I downloaded the latest version, but won't get to test it until tonite. Does it author HDV to AVCHD hybrid without MF6+ or stuttering?

Fingers crossed. My ultimate goal is to author native XDCAM-EX, 35mbps VBR 1920x1080 24p to AVCHD hybrid without re-encoding, just like we do with HDV. Ulead MF6+ won't help here, because it wants to re-encode 24p, unlike HDV 60i which it smart renders.

Are your source videos from HDV camcorders that stutter? And how do you exactly do you pass the m2t thru MF6+? Do you create a BD project and then take the resulting disc image and extract the video back again?

I only work with 1080i/720p mpegs I pull via firewire from my cable box, but have not seen stutter ever, from that source.
It will be an almost perfect one-stop tool for me if it will just eliminate the step of having to pass m2t thru Ulead MF6+ (to get rid of the stutters) before the TSRemux AVCHD wrapping step.

And being able to put in exact chapter points is a huge plus as well.

I downloaded the latest version, but won't get to test it until tonite. Does it author HDV to AVCHD hybrid without MF6+ or stuttering?

Fingers crossed. My ultimate goal is to author native XDCAM-EX, 35mbps VBR 1920x1080 24p to AVCHD hybrid without re-encoding, just like we do with HDV. Ulead MF6+ won't help here, because it wants to re-encode 24p, unlike HDV 60i which it smart renders.

Are your source videos from HDV camcorders that stutter? And how do you exactly do you pass the m2t thru MF6+? Do you create a BD project and then take the resulting disc image and extract the video back again?

Follow this Link... (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12774721#post12774721)

Lots of good information in the follow up posts as well.

Tom

And being able to put in exact chapter points is a huge plus as well.
It lets you do this now. Pretty sure.

I downloaded the latest version, but won't get to test it until tonite. Does it author HDV to AVCHD hybrid without MF6+ or stuttering?
In my case [Sony HC3 HDV footage], yes. I've now moved to the Canon HF100 AVCHD camcorder though, so my memory may be a little faulty.

It lets you do this now. Pretty sure.


In my case [Sony HC3 HDV footage], yes. I've now moved to the Canon HF100 AVCHD camcorder though, so my memory may be a little faulty.

TSMuxeR V1.8.4.88 did the trick! This finally puts me ahead of where I was with HD DVD, since I could not get beyond getting 60i streams authored.

With TSMuxeR V1.8.4.88, I authored native 24p (without pulldown flags) onto DVD/5 disk, at full raster 1920x1080 35mbps VBR, Sony XDCAM-EX. Flabbergasting motion video...

TSMuxeR is a bargain at twice the price :D

I have not seen any reports recently regarding TSMuxer/TSReMuxer menu-less avchd working on anything other than a PS3.

Are these working on other players, reliably? I know the Panny BD30 has not had much luck with this in the past.

I have not seen any reports recently regarding TSMuxer/TSReMuxer menu-less avchd working on anything other than a PS3.

Are these working on other players, reliably? I know the Panny BD30 has not had much luck with this in the past.

I agree with you. Although I have not tried the latest AVCHD hybrid disk using TSMuxeR on any standalone BD players, my previous experience trying to play the TSRemux ones on the standalones was generally not successful, with one of the early Sony BDPS1? being the exception. But it would not play on Panny BD30 or the later Sonys like the BDSP300.

It's actually why I don't fret over not having the menus, limited audience so to speak.

It's actually why I don't fret over not having the menus, limited audience so to speak.

Thanks for the info. I guess if my friends want to see my shows, they'll just have to buy a PS3 :)

I dont have the patience to make the menu discs.

Now I just capture via firewire, edit out commercials with videoredo (10 min), run through TSMuxer (4 min) and burn.

It really is easy.

Thanks for the info. I guess if my friends want to see my shows, they'll just have to buy a PS3 :)

I dont have the patience to make the menu discs.

Now I just capture via firewire, edit out commercials with videoredo (10 min), run through TSMuxer (4 min) and burn.

It really is easy.

GumboChief, wwen you say that you burn - do you actually burn the captured .ts file to BD disc or do you convert it to some other formats that will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I would like to do just that, I do not want to waste blank BD (they are still expensive)

Is there a way to convert to the size that it will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I tried the Nero Recode and while it works and gives me 8.4 GB mp4 file I cannot make it play in my stand alone Samsung 1400 Blu ray player. I do not need any menu, I just need to put the disc into the player and auto play. I am trying to fit about 2hrs and 20 min on the DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality - the original .ts file that I captured from HD STB via firewire (after edditing comercials in Videredo) was 15GB. The quality after the Nero Recode seems to be very good but it took 20 hrs!! to convert the file on dual core machine.

So to recap, is there a way for me to convert to avc/h.264 faster and then put this on the DVD-+DL disc to play in my stand alond BD player or do I need PS3 for that? Are you saying that PS3 will play that avc/h.264 mp4 file from the DVD-+DL disc ??

If there is any step by step guide available , could you please point me to it, I ahve been reading a lot and I am still so confused.

Thanks a bunch,
Nikonowski

GumboChief, wwen you say that you burn - do you actually burn the captured .ts file to BD disc or do you convert it to some other formats that will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I would like to do just that, I do not want to waste blank BD (they are still expensive)

Is there a way to convert to the size that it will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I tried the Nero Recode and while it works and gives me 8.4 GB mp4 file I cannot make it play in my stand alone Samsung 1400 Blu ray player. I do not need any menu, I just need to put the disc into the player and auto play. I am trying to fit about 2hrs and 20 min on the DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality - the original .ts file that I captured from HD STB via firewire (after edditing comercials in Videredo) was 15GB. The quality after the Nero Recode seems to be very good but it took 20 hrs!! to convert the file on dual core machine.

So to recap, is there a way for me to convert to avc/h.264 faster and then put this on the DVD-+DL disc to play in my stand alond BD player or do I need PS3 for that? Are you saying that PS3 will play that avc/h.264 mp4 file from the DVD-+DL disc ??

If there is any step by step guide available , could you please point me to it, I ahve been reading a lot and I am still so confused.

Thanks a bunch,
Nikonowski

thats where it gets complicated! I'll be happy for upto 2 DL, ie 15-16GB for best quality.

I burn to DVD-R most of the time. I actually just found some DVD+RL for < $1, so I bought a bunch.

I capture a .ts via firewire. I then save it as an .mpg (don't think that it is necessary to change wrapper, but I do). No loss of quality there. Takes 4-6 minutes to resave file. Then use TSMuxer to create the bluray structure.

If the file is too big to fit on a dual layer, you can run the file through ripbot264. Same thing as nero recode. Takes me 14 hours on a dual core T9300 w/ 4gig ram on Vista x64. ripbot will build bluray structure on its own.

Your bigger problem is the standalone player. These discs seem to work best on PS3.

You may follow the guide exactly right, and still end up with a disc that wont work for you.

Which player do you have?
GumboChief, wwen you say that you burn - do you actually burn the captured .ts file to BD disc or do you convert it to some other formats that will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I would like to do just that, I do not want to waste blank BD (they are still expensive)

Is there a way to convert to the size that it will fit on DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality. I tried the Nero Recode and while it works and gives me 8.4 GB mp4 file I cannot make it play in my stand alone Samsung 1400 Blu ray player. I do not need any menu, I just need to put the disc into the player and auto play. I am trying to fit about 2hrs and 20 min on the DVD-+DL disc without loosing any quality - the original .ts file that I captured from HD STB via firewire (after edditing comercials in Videredo) was 15GB. The quality after the Nero Recode seems to be very good but it took 20 hrs!! to convert the file on dual core machine.

So to recap, is there a way for me to convert to avc/h.264 faster and then put this on the DVD-+DL disc to play in my stand alond BD player or do I need PS3 for that? Are you saying that PS3 will play that avc/h.264 mp4 file from the DVD-+DL disc ??

If there is any step by step guide available , could you please point me to it, I ahve been reading a lot and I am still so confused.

Thanks a bunch,
Nikonowski

I burn to DVD-R most of the time. I actually just found some DVD+RL for < $1, so I bought a bunch.

I capture a .ts via firewire. I then save it as an .mpg (don't think that it is necessary to change wrapper, but I do). No loss of quality there. Takes 4-6 minutes to resave file.

If the file is too big to fit on a dual layer, you can run the file through ripbot264. Same thing as nero recode. Takes me 14 hours on a dual core T9300 w/ 4gig ram on Vista x64.

Your bigger problem is the standalone player. These discs seem to work best on PS3.

You may follow the guide exactly right, and still end up with a disc that wont work for you.

Which player do you have?


Thanks - I have Samsung 1400. How do you burn these discs that play in your PS3 - are they simply data disc or you authorthem. And if you author them, can you provide step by step guide for me ???

Also, is there any step by step ripbot guides that you can suggest ??

Thanks,
Nikonowski

f the file is too big to fit on a dual layer, you can run the file through ripbot264. Same thing as nero recode. Takes me 14 hours on a dual core T9300 w/ 4gig ram on Vista x64. ripbot will build bluray structure on its own.


thats is the tedious part!

thats is the tedious part!

Yeah. At least I dont have to interact with it.
I set it to go at 6pm, and it is done the next morning.

Thanks - I have Samsung 1400. How do you burn these discs that play in your PS3 - are they simply data disc or you authorthem. And if you author them, can you provide step by step guide for me ???

Also, is there any step by step ripbot guides that you can suggest ??

Thanks,
Nikonowski

I use Nero Burning Rom to burn. It is a standard data disc. Only difference is you need to use UDF physical 2.5.
I tried using DVD Movie Factory once, but their UDF 2.5 did not make a playable disc for me.

As for ripbot, it is pretty easy. Only thing I have trouble with is I need to manually tell it to de-interlace, if I have a 1080i file.

If I want to create a single layer DVD5 with ripbot264, I do following:
Choose Blueray output
Choose 2 pass encoding
Lock Size, and type in 4440 (4480 does not fit on my disc)
Hit Video-Properties. If it is a 1080i, I tell it to de-interlace (have not had luck with auto detect)
Burn output using Nero Burning ROM w/ UDF2.5

I use Nero Burning Rom to burn. It is a standard data disc. Only difference is you need to use UDF physical 2.5.
I tried using DVD Movie Factory once, but their UDF 2.5 did not make a playable disc for me.

As for ripbot, it is pretty easy. Only thing I have trouble with is I need to manually tell it to de-interlace, if I have a 1080i file.

If I want to create a single layer DVD5 with ripbot264, I do following:
Choose Blueray output
Choose 2 pass encoding
Lock Size, and type in 4440 (4480 does not fit on my disc)
Hit Video-Properties. If it is a 1080i, I tell it to de-interlace (have not had luck with auto detect)
Burn output using Nero Burning ROM w/ UDF2.5


Thanks GumboChief !

Just one additional thing - if it is DVD9 (DL) that I am after - I just leave the size at 4480 but still de-interlace for 1080i sources , correct ?

Thanks and I will give ripbot264 a try. Does it create the structure for the Blu ray when I select that profile i.e. the folder stracture contains BDMV and CERTIFICATES etc... ?

Regards,
Nikonowski

for DVD9, you are going to want that number a lot bigger.
Might take some frustrating experimentation.
I ran my first at the default of 4480, and found that nero said the file was too big for DVD5

I then had to wait another 14 hours to try 4460, which was also too big.

4440 finally worked.

You may want to try 8100 or even 8000 for an initial DVD9test.
4440 produced a set of files that are 4.36 gigs big (and that just barely fits on DVD5)

For 1080i, I set deinterlace to "top field first > 29.97 fps"


Finally, yes, it does create the structure if you select "bluray" as the output. Then you just drop BDMV and CERTIFICATES onto the Nero project.


One last tip
Test using a DVD5. These cost about 25 cents.

Also dont practice with your full movie. Only do a 30-60 second capture. Makes it a lot faster to figure out the process. Once it works, you can expand to a 2 hour show.

Also, you should use videoredo, or other similar program to resave the file from the original .ts

This will clean up bad glitches that can make the player choke.

Thanks GumboChief !

Just one additional thing - if it is DVD9 (DL) that I am after - I just leave the size at 4480 but still de-interlace for 1080i sources , correct ?

Thanks and I will give ripbot264 a try. Does it create the structure for the Blu ray when I select that profile i.e. the folder stracture contains BDMV and CERTIFICATES etc... ?

Regards,
Nikonowski

for DVD9, you are going to want that number a lot bigger.
Might take some frustrating experimentation.
I ran my first at the default of 4480, and found that nero said the file was too big for DVD5

I then had to wait another 14 hours to try 4460, which was also too big.

4440 finally worked.

You may want to try 8100 or even 8000 for an initial DVD9test.
4440 produced a set of files that are 4.36 gigs big (and that just barely fits on DVD5)

For 1080i, I set deinterlace to "top field first > 29.97 fps"


Finally, yes, it does create the structure if you select "bluray" as the output. Then you just drop BDMV and CERTIFICATES onto the Nero project.


One last tip
Test using a DVD5. These cost about 25 cents.

Also dont practice with your full movie. Only do a 30-60 second capture. Makes it a lot faster to figure out the process. Once it works, you can expand to a 2 hour show.

Also, you should use videoredo, or other similar program to resave the file from the original .ts

This will clean up bad glitches that can make the player choke.

or RW, thats what I do to practice lol.

Ps3 rules!

BTW for DVD 18, can you split into two 8GB's?

I have Samsung 1400.

Some people have reported the 1400 as being unable and able to play the HD on DVD from our project. All I know is that when I tried Samsung players in store that they didn't work with AVCHDs from Movie Factory 6+. If TsMuxer or tsRemux (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39) would be any more compatible I don't know. Anyway, my biggest point is that to this point there's only limited compatability for what works on different players for HD from DVD.

BTW for DVD 18, can you split into two 8GB's?

Not sure I know what you mean.

Not sure I know what you mean.

Sorry! I mean if I want to keep size to fit two DL discs( around 15-16GB) How should I proceed? is there any way to split BDV structure? and how many passes in setting, to make a 25GB BR into 15GB?

Sorry! I mean if I want to keep size to fit two DL discs( around 15-16GB) How should I proceed? is there any way to split BDV structure? and how many passes in setting, to make a 25GB BR into 15GB?

What I would do is use videoredo to split the original file at a natural transition point (so that it does not split in the middle of a sentence.)

Then just burn the 2 files as described above

What I would do is use videoredo to split the original file at a natural transition point (so that it does not split in the middle of a sentence.)

Then just burn the 2 files as described above
Thanks!

Would you like to know if a menu-less AVCHD image will work on your standalone player? Read on.

1. Download this file (AVCHD.rar), containing a properly created AVCHD image. Decompress the file. This image plays PERFECTLY on a PS3 with firmware 2.35.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a0p609

2. Download and install ImgBurn. You may also choose to use different software (Nero or other), if it is compatible with .nrg images.
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
They don't allow direct linking, so please grab the file from one of the listed mirrors.

3. Once you launch the tool, select the icon in the top left, named "Write Image File to Disc"

4. By "Source", click the icon of the folder with a magnifying glass, and browse to the extracted AVCHD.nrg file.

5. Put a blank DVD into the device you wish to write with.

6. Make sure the DVD Recording device that you wish to write to is selected in the "Destination" drop down box.

7. Select the "File" menu up top, and choose, "Write".

8. When the writing is complete there will be a message box from ImgBurn stating it is finished. Simply click on the OK button.

9. Pop disc into your player. If your system is compatible with the process described in the next post, you are all set to author your own Blu-Ray discs, using cheap DVD-R media.

This image is a 30 second video of an MPEG-2 720p feed, digitally extracted from a cablebox. The video was not recompressed or altered in any way, other than to place it in an AVCHD container.

Reported Compatibility for Following Players:
Panasonic DMP-BD10: Success
Panasonic DMP-BD30 v1.3: Success
PS3 firmware 2.35: Success
Samsung BDP-1400: Success
Samsung BDP-1500: Success
Sony BDP-300: Success

The AVCHD was created using the steps below.

1. Captured the *.ts video from a Motorola DCH-3416 on the Comcast network using instructions provided here.
http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

2. File was cut to include only the exact frames needed by using VideoRedo Plus. File was saved as *.mpg. Trial version available
http://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm?download=plus

3. TSMuxer GUI was used to import the *.mpg file. I verified that the video stream, and only 1 audio stream was selected. Click the "Create Blu-Ray Disc" radiobutton. Choose a directory for the output. Click "start muxing"
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

4. Launch Nero Burning ROM. From the "New Compilation Window", select DVD from the very top left corner. Now select "DVD-ROM (UDF)" from the left hand pane. Goto the UDF tab, up top. Set "options" to "manual settings". Set "parition type" to "physical partition". Set "file system version" to "UDF 2.50".
Click "New" at the bottom of the screen.
ftp://nero-mirror.com/software/Nero8/current/Nero-8.3.2.1b_eng_trial.exe

5. On the right hand side, browse to the directory you selected in Step 3. Drag & Drop the "BDMV" and "CERTIFICATE" directories to the left hand pane where the DVD is authored. Click the "Burn" icon at the top of the screen.

You should now have a working disc. Well, at least a disc that works on a PS3 :D

excellent instructions, btw disowning some of soundtracks will reduce data size too.

The AVCHD was created using the steps below.

1. Captured the *.ts video from a Motorola DCH-3416 on the Comcast network using instructions provided here.
http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

2. File was cut to include only the exact frames needed by using VideoRedo Plus. File was saved as *.mpg. Trial version available
http://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm?download=plus

3. TSMuxer GUI was used to import the *.mpg file. I verified that the video stream, and 1 audio stream was selected. Click the "Create Blu-Ray Disc" radiobutton. Choose a directory for the output. Click "start muxing"
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

4. Launch Nero Burning ROM. From the "New Compilation Window", select DVD from the very top left corner. Now select "DVD-ROM (UDF)" from the left hand pane. Goto the UDF tab, up top. Set "options" to "manual settings". Set "parition type" to "physical partition". Set "file system version" to "UDF 2.50".
Click "New" at the bottom of the screen.
ftp://nero-mirror.com/software/Nero8/current/Nero-8.3.2.1b_eng_trial.exe

5. On the right hand side, browse to the directory you selected in Step 3. Drag & Drop the "BDMV" and "CERTIFICATE" directories to the left hand pane where the DVD is authored. Click the "Burn" icon at the top of the screen.

You should now have a working disc. Well, at least a disc that works on a PS3 :D


Thanks for the detailed instructions! Are these instructions only if you wish to keep a huge file that does not fit on the DVD9 ? I thought that in order to reduce a size so it fits on DVD9 , you needed to convert it to avc/h.264 in ripbot264 - isn't this correct or am I missing something ?

Usually about 2 hrs captured from HD cable box results in 15GB .ts file which will obviously not fit on DVD9 and besides blank BD-R media are still expensive.

Regards,
Ninonowski

This is for an mpeg that does fit on either a DVD5 or DVD9.

I capture a lot of 720p stuff (PBS in Chicago), so a 2 hour show fits on a DVD9, for me.

If you need to reduce the size of the file, you can use nero recode, ripbot264 (free), or other such program. Big draw back is that the recode is slow.

If you had 2 hours of 1080i material, you would probably have to recode it.

Thanks for the detailed instructions! Are these instructions only if you wish to keep a huge file that does not fit on the DVD9 ? I thought that in order to reduce a size so it fits on DVD9 , you needed to convert it to avc/h.264 in ripbot264 - isn't this correct or am I missing something ?

Usually about 2 hrs captured from HD cable box results in 15GB .ts file which will obviously not fit on DVD9 and besides blank BD-R media are still expensive.

Regards,
Ninonowski

excellent instructions, btw disowning some of soundtracks will reduce data size too.

Thanks. Added emphasis. I think I have seen people have trouble with 2 soundtracks, anyway.

Woo-hoo! Got it to work using a slight modification to Tom's method. Tried 4 different TS files that previously resulted in stutters w/o audio on the PS3. Now they all play perfectly. Tried DVD+RW, DVD+R SL and a DVD-R DL.

Here's my workflow, which is very similar to Tom's.


Take your hi-def capture and run it through VideoRedo (VRD). MPEG2VCR also works according to MozartMan, but I find VRD better. Cut out segments you don't want. Click 'Save As...' and choose 'Transport Stream (*.ts)' for output. Before this, if you haven't done so just once before, after you open VRD, click 'Tools', then while holding down the 'Shift' key, choose 'Options'. This gives you extra setup options. Find the line 'Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs' and enable it to 'True'.
Run your VRD-generated TS through Ulead DVD Movie Factory 6+ with their HD Power Pack (http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Content/1190954650114) plug-in. It costs $20, but Google "ulead coupon" and you might find a 10% off coupon as I did. Start the Ulead launcher w/o any disc in your drive. Click 'New Video Project' button, then click 'OK' to choose your drive, then choose 'Blu-ray' with 'BDMV' option and click 'OK'. Once you're in, disable menu option and don't add any chapters.
Run your Ulead-generated M2TS file (in the BDMV/STREAM folder) through TSRemux v0.0.18 with the 'Blu-Ray' output option to another folder on your hard drive. Set chapter markers to however many minutes you want.
Delete 0001.m2ts from the TSRemux-generated BDMV/STREAM folder and copy over 0000.m2ts from the Ulead-generated BDMV/STREAM folder. Rename 0000.m2ts to 0001.m2ts.
Burn the TSRemux 'BDMV' and 'CERTIFICATE' folders to any DVD media with Nero 7 or 8. Make sure you choose 'DVD-ROM (UDF)', then under the 'UDF' tab, choose 'Manual settings' and 'Physical partition' with 'UDF 2.50'.
Perfect playback w/DD 2.0 or 5.1 audio on the PS3 with chapters and smooth forward/reverse scan. No menus, but I don't need them.


Brajesh,

I did everything above, except I ran into 2 snags (highlighted above)...

My BDMV/STREAM was named "00000.m2ts", not "0000.m2ts" (5 zeroes instead of 4 zeroes like you documented). When you say "Rename 0000.m2ts to 0001.m2ts" should I rename to 0001.m2ts or 00001.m2ts?

I was going to try it both ways, but then I ran into snag #2...

My Nero 7 DVD-ROM(UDF) only has drop down choices for UDF 1.02, 1.50, 2.00, or 2.01

How do I get UDF 2.50?

Thanks,
Clarence

How do I get UDF 2.50?

Thanks,
Clarence

You need to upgrade nero

You need to upgrade nero

I have no idea, but there may also be patches or newer revs of the nero 7.x stream that include UDF 2.5

I would check their support site.


Also, your post says you have DvdMF. I had no luck with it, but it also includes a UDF2.5 burn feature.

Brajesh,

I did everything above, except I ran into 2 snags (highlighted above)...

My BDMV/STREAM was named "00000.m2ts", not "0000.m2ts" (5 zeroes instead of 4 zeroes like you documented). When you say "Rename 0000.m2ts to 0001.m2ts" should I rename to 0001.m2ts or 00001.m2ts?

I was going to try it both ways, but then I ran into snag #2...

My Nero 7 DVD-ROM(UDF) only has drop down choices for UDF 1.02, 1.50, 2.00, or 2.01

How do I get UDF 2.50?

Thanks,
Clarence

use free imageburn

use free imageburnYeah, I already tried imgburn... I get this error:
"Failed to set L0 Data Zone Capacity
Reason: Invalid Field in Parameter List"

:confused: :mad:

Let me pull down the updates to Nero 7 (388Mb :eek: ) and/or the trial for Nero 8 (185Mb). I was hoping to avoid that... last time I installed a trial, it was a huge pain to go back to the purchased version (v7.0 Ultra) that I already had.

Last year I finally had the tools and workflow down pat for making HD-DVD demo discs with slick menus... now I'm trying to replicate the process/results for Blu/PS3 on DVD9.

Yeah, I already tried imgburn... I get this error:
"Failed to set L0 Data Zone Capacity
Reason: Invalid Field in Parameter List"

:confused: :mad:

Let me pull down the updates to Nero 7 (388Mb :eek: ) and/or the trial for Nero 8 (185Mb). I was hoping to avoid that... last time I installed a trial, it was a huge pain to go back to the purchased version (v7.0 Ultra) that I already had.

Last year I finally had the tools and workflow down pat for making HD-DVD demo discs with slick menus... now I'm trying to replicate the process/results for Blu/PS3 on DVD9.

I use imageburn, never had any issue! hmm!

I use imageburn, never had any issue! hmm!

Will have to try that. Have been using the Nero trial, myself. I would hate to cough up the $80, when I only need/use the burning function. I just dont need the mediacenter, and the other stuff.

Will have to try that. Have been using the Nero trial, myself. I would hate to cough up the $80, when I only need/use the burning function. I just dont need the mediacenter, and the other stuff.

Would it kill them to create a nicer file picker? :o

Well, I have to admit, imgburn is working just fine. Watching a RadioHead concert I captured last week.

----new----
Have updated the test avchd image post to use imgburn. Should make the entire test of the image a 10 minute process. Just the install of Nero takes me 35 minutes. :)

Ok I have read a lot of this thread and I am more confused that when I started.

Is there any sep by step instructions like GumboChief made but for backing up Blu Ray to hard drive? If so will these files play on a PS3?

I admit that I only read the first four and the last four ends of this thread because it is a lot of information. I don’t really care about the special features or anything like that, I just want high def movies and high def audio. People are talking about a million different programs and a million different ways and it is really confusing. I know there is nothing like DVD Shrink for blu rays but anything even close to as easy.

Clarence, you can skip the Ulead DVD MF6+ step now. Just use TSMuxer only. The latest version does the trick. You can download the UDF 2.50 drivers/files; I don't recall right now, but someone posted a zipped file on AVS recently. If I find it later, I'll post a link. And, I agree w/others about ImgBurn; great, easy tool.

Is there any sep by step instructions like GumboChief made but for backing up Blu Ray to hard drive? If so will these files play on a PS3?

This thread is not really focused on the extraction of commercial BluRays. As such, I don't think there is a step by step guide for that on this (long) thread. Of course some of the methods talked about here, can be applied to what you want.

I don't have a bluray PC drive, but I think most people use this to do their bluray extractions. I am not aware of any free tools, but then again, I have never looked.
http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html

For this, you guys should look at the doom9 forum, and secondarily the SlySoft forum. Creating 'back-ups' is a controversial subject. IMHO creating Blu-ray back-ups isn't worth the effort, but it's fairly easy to do if you're so inclined.

Would you like to know if a menu-less AVCHD image will work on your standalone player? Read on.

1. Download this file (AVCHD.rar), containing a properly created AVCHD image. Decompress the file. This image plays PERFECTLY on a PS3 with firmware 2.35.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a0p609

2. Download and install ImgBurn. You may also choose to use different software (Nero or other), if it is compatible with .nrg images.
http://www.imgburn.com/index.php?act=download
They don't allow direct linking, so please grab the file from one of the listed mirrors.

3. Once you launch the tool, select the icon in the top left, named "Write Image File to Disc"

4. By "Source", click the icon of the folder with a magnifying glass, and browse to the extracted AVCHD.nrg file.

5. Put a blank DVD into the device you wish to write with.

6. Make sure the DVD Recording device that you wish to write to is selected in the "Destination" drop down box.

7. Select the "File" menu up top, and choose, "Write".

8. When the writing is complete there will be a message box from ImgBurn stating it is finished. Simply click on the OK button.

9. Pop disc into your player. If your system is compatible with the process described in the next post, you are all set to author your own Blu-Ray discs, using cheap DVD-R media.

This image is a 30 second video of an MPEG-2 720p feed, digitally extracted from a cablebox. The video was not recompressed or altered in any way, other than to place it in an AVCHD container.

Reported Compatibility for Following Players:
PS3 firmware 2.35: Success
Samsung BDP-1400: Unknown (should get a report from Nikonowski this weekend)

Hi GumboChief,

I am happy to report that after burning this file to DVD-RW 4.7GB it played flawlessly in my stand alone Blu Ray player Samsung 1400 :) Excellent quality (however it showed resolution as 1920X1080 on my display)

Thanks for letting me try this method.It worked like a charm.

Additional question/clarification:

GumboChief, you mentioned that you captured a lot of cable shows in 720p and that about 2 hours of that stream seems to fit on the DVD9 disc. Is there a way from me to force (or change) broadcast from my cable box to be 720p instead of 1080i ? That way I would not have to re-encode to fit on DVD9 as I would simply follow you instructions (the same nes that you used when creating this clip)

Thanks once again,
Nikonowski

Awesome!
Your player must be scaling it up, as it is for sure 720p.

Unfortunately, there is no way to change what the cable box captures. In the USA, ABC is 720p, while CBS & NBC are 1080i. Luckily I watch zero shows on CBS or NBC.

Your best bet is to use ripbot264. As long as you go overnight, it isn't that bad. It is REALLY hard to tell the difference between the original MPEG2 and the H.264 file.

And that is on a still image which I paused :)


What did you think of Billy?:D


Hi GumboChief,

I am happy to report that after burning this file to DVD-RW 4.7GB it played flawlessly in my stand alone Blu Ray player Samsung 1400 :) Excellent quality (however it showed resolution as 1920X1080 on my display)

Thanks for letting me try this method.It worked like a charm.

Additional question/clarification:

GumboChief, you mentioned that you captured a lot of cable shows in 720p and that about 2 hours of that stream seems to fit on the DVD9 disc. Is there a way from me to force (or change) broadcast from my cable box to be 720p instead of 1080i ? That way I would not have to re-encode to fit on DVD9 as I would simply follow you instructions (the same nes that you used when creating this clip)

Thanks once again,
Nikonowski

It works perfectly in my Sony BDP-S300 with FW v3.9. :) I burnt it with Nero and had no issues.

Im assuming this is a BD5 standard disc?

PS. Anyone else notice the remote he is holding, looks identical to a MS Media Center Remote control. :D

It works perfectly in my Sony BDP-S300 with FW v3.9. :) I burnt it with Nero and had no issues.

Im assuming this is a BD5 standard disc?

PS. Anyone else notice the remote he is holding, looks identical to a MS Media Center Remote control. :D

It is a DVD5 standard disc.
I had not noticed regarding the remote. I think the commercial is hilarious :)

Hi GumboChief,

Additional question/clarification:

GumboChief, you mentioned that you captured a lot of cable shows in 720p and that about 2 hours of that stream seems to fit on the DVD9 disc. Is there a way from me to force (or change) broadcast from my cable box to be 720p instead of 1080i ? That way I would not have to re-encode to fit on DVD9 as I would simply follow you instructions (the same nes that you used when creating this clip)

Thanks once again,
Nikonowski

The file size is ONLY a function of average bit rate and time. Lowering the resolution is done to make the compression artifacts less noticable for low bit rate files. So the only way to make the final file size smaller is to reduce the average bit rate or reduce the play time. If your file is mpeg2 then you can usually reduce the bit rate by about half when encoding into H264. As mentioned Ripbot264 is a pretty simple GUI for doing H264 encoding.

Mike T

It is a DVD5 standard disc.
I had not noticed regarding the remote. I think the commercial is hilarious :)

There is a BluRay Standard called BD5 (and BD9) which is BluRay on a standard single layer DVD.

Agreed, the commercial is funny. :)

Let's see if I recall off the top of my head (not at my machine right now)...


I take the Nero-generated MP4 file and demux it using Yamb. I also demux the original MPEG2 file and demux it using TSMuxer or TSRemux. I then use an audio encoder (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/audio-encoders) (like eac3to or ffmpegGUI) to convert the original MPEG audio to AC3. Finally, I mux the AC3 file and the h264 file (by Yamb) via TSMuxer to output a Blu-ray structure.

Brajesh, I don't think I understand these last instructions after Nero Recode creates mp4 file, can you provide a bit more details i.e. step by step please ?

Also, why would you to convert the original MPEG audio to AC3 and how do I do that ? Doesn't Yamb create 2 files already (audio and video streams)
Can I not just use TSMuxer to mux those 2 files that Yamb created to output to a Blu Ray structure. Once again, I am very new to this and I would really appreciate some detailed instruction as I don't even know these tools .

Thanks a lot!

Nikonowski

Awesome!
Your player must be scaling it up, as it is for sure 720p.

Unfortunately, there is no way to change what the cable box captures. In the USA, ABC is 720p, while CBS & NBC are 1080i. Luckily I watch zero shows on CBS or NBC.

Your best bet is to use ripbot264. As long as you go overnight, it isn't that bad. It is REALLY hard to tell the difference between the original MPEG2 and the H.264 file.

And that is on a still image which I paused :)


What did you think of Billy?:D

Hi there,

ripbot does not work form me :(( when I load the 15GB file , there is wording that it's demuxing auio and video streams and then the program just hangs ??? Any remedies ?

Thanks,
Nikonowski

Hi there,

ripbot does not work form me :(( when I load the 15GB file , there is wording that it's demuxing auio and video streams and then the program just hangs ??? Any remedies ?

Thanks,
Nikonowski

How long did you wait? Try it with a smaller file.
A 7 gig file can take me about 5 minutes to load up.

How long did you wait? Try it with a smaller file.
A 7 gig file can take me about 5 minutes to load up.

OK - my files are more like 15GB so perhaps I can wait a bit longer like 15min. What should I see once it loads up the file ? I am unable to pick Blu Ray output while the file is being loaded. Initially the CPU spikes up and them maybe 2-3 minutes after that the CPU load goes down and the program looks like it is hang. I am not really sure what I am waiting for. I want to use the ripbot as it does everything else in one step (including creating BD folders )

Thanks,
Nikonowski

Hey guys-

I recently got a blu-ray burner. I burnt up a BD-RE after converting a file using TSRemux to create the folders. I pop it into my PS3 and it plays. However, my ability to fast forward and review is fairly limited. For example, it will fast forward at 1.5x no problem, but at 10x it freezes stutters and so forth. Is there anything in particular to look for?

Also, I've run these files through VideoReDo and it is not showing any errors. However, if I use Ulead MF6+ w/ the HD pack to make the disc, I'm getting a lot of "error in the DVD engine" errors with the video and audio are being mixed. Any tips?

Thanks,
Chris

OK - my files are more like 15GB so perhaps I can wait a bit longer like 15min. What should I see once it loads up the file ? I am unable to pick Blu Ray output while the file is being loaded. Initially the CPU spikes up and them maybe 2-3 minutes after that the CPU load goes down and the program looks like it is hang. I am not really sure what I am waiting for. I want to use the ripbot as it does everything else in one step (including creating BD folders )

Thanks,
Nikonowski

The dialog boxes will be available.

Let me know what happens after a 15 min wait

Also, it is a BIG mistake to test ripbot264 with a big file

It simply takes to long to re-encode, to make tests viable.

Figure it out on a 2 minute video clip start to finish FIRST, and then do the 15 gig file.

Hey guys-

I recently got a blu-ray burner. I burnt up a BD-RE after converting a file using TSRemux to create the folders. I pop it into my PS3 and it plays. However, my ability to fast forward and review is fairly limited. For example, it will fast forward at 1.5x no problem, but at 10x it freezes stutters and so forth. Is there anything in particular to look for?
Try tsMuxeR. It is better than TSRemux.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104

Also, I've run these files through VideoReDo and it is not showing any errors. However, if I use Ulead MF6+ w/ the HD pack to make the disc, I'm getting a lot of "error in the DVD engine" errors with the video and audio are being mixed. Any tips?

Thanks,
Chris
I had a lot of errors with Ulead MF6+ with my TS files until I ran them all through VideoReDo.

Convert TS file to M2TS before importing to MF6+.

Well, I've been away for a while. I was waiting for my new Blu blanks to arrive along with the LG GGW-H20L burner.

I used the PowerProducer4 included in the box to pull in 4 480i mini DV tapes I had taken in Disenyland and the UK, plugged in my new 25Gb LG BD RE and produced my first BDAV.

Took up about half the disc, and whilst it'll never be mistaken for full HD, it does look pretty good.

I'm also about to demise my old Sony PC 100E miniDV camcorder and replace it with a Cannon HF100 AVCHD and a couple of cards.

I do have MF6+, but I haven't got the HD pack yet, so no BDMVs so far.

The whole process took a couple of hours on my 2Gb Conroe 6600 PC.

I hope that the BDMV is just as easy to do.

Just for the record, I'm not planning to burn BD on DVD5 or 9. I'll use something else to render those. I do admit to wondering how a AVCHD file will look when it's rendered down onto a DVD9.

Seggers

Let's see if I recall off the top of my head (not at my machine right now)...


I take the Nero-generated MP4 file and demux it using Yamb. I also demux the original MPEG2 file and demux it using TSMuxer or TSRemux. I then use an audio encoder (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/audio-encoders) (like eac3to or ffmpegGUI) to convert the original MPEG audio to AC3. Finally, I mux the AC3 file and the h264 file (by Yamb) via TSMuxer to output a Blu-ray structure.

Hi Brajesh,

The above steps do not work for me after I get the Nero Recode mp4 file I cannot load it into tsMuxeR - I get error "Can't detect stream type. File name..." and the same things happens when I try to load AC3 file as well.

So I am not sure what is wrong but I still cannot get all these tools to output to Blu Ray structure after the Nero Recode process. I have a 8.2GB mp4 file but I cannot do anything with it ???

Help please - is there a guide step by step somwhere ? Ripbot does not work for me either. Once I load mpeg2 file converted (via VideoRedo) from ts file, the whole process completes very quickly i.e. it says all jobs have finished but there is no output files. And besides it should take about 20 hours for 2 hours of source. I would prefer Ripot because it is all-in-one tool , supposedly once I load MPEG 2 file I will comeup with BD structure - except this does not work either for me :(

Help please - I am so frustrated!

Nikonowski

Also, it is a BIG mistake to test ripbot264 with a big file

It simply takes to long to re-encode, to make tests viable.

Figure it out on a 2 minute video clip start to finish FIRST, and then do the 15 gig file.


Hi GumboChief,

Ripbot does not work for me either. Once I load mpeg2 file converted (via VideoRedo) from ts file, the whole process completes very quickly i.e. it says all jobs have finished but there is no output files. And besides it should take about 20 hours for 2 hours of source. I would prefer Ripot because it is all-in-one tool , supposedly once I load MPEG 2 file I will comeup with BD structure - except this does not work either for me .

Very frustrated :(

Nikonnowski.

So I dl'ed the MF6+ HD pack and added it in.

I tried to pull in the same 4 files and found that it turned a previous 12.5Gb disc into more than 25. So I cut it down to 2 files and added in a basic menu and tried.

The project blew out 4 hours later when there wasn't enough room on the BDRE (in all fairness, it did warn me up front).

So I cut it down to a 10min clip and tried that. Naturally, the output doesn't look that much different than the BDAV, the menu was cute. I have to check the sound out between the 2 clips though.

I may have to look to upgrade the CPU, it thrashed it to within an inch of its life. Doing ordinary DVD5 or 9's did the same, but for a lot less (150fps rendering). More money, or just go back to my PII rendering days and do it over night.

So far I like what I see, although I haven't gone quite so deeply into it as others on this forum.

As an interesting side note, I currently run a PAL camorder. The BD output was a lot smoother than the DVD5/9. I originally put it down to the PAL to NTSC frame rate. I now wonder if it was the sw that I used, so I've burnt a quicker DVD5 with MF6+ and I'll try it in the PS3 later.

For my money, MF6 appears to be just as useful as other DVD rendering software that I've used.

Seggers

Hi GumboChief,

Ripbot does not work for me either. Once I load mpeg2 file converted (via VideoRedo) from ts file, the whole process completes very quickly i.e. it says all jobs have finished but there is no output files. And besides it should take about 20 hours for 2 hours of source. I would prefer Ripot because it is all-in-one tool , supposedly once I load MPEG 2 file I will comeup with BD structure - except this does not work either for me .

Very frustrated :(

Nikonnowski.

Do H.264 files work on your PC? You may be missing a codec or something.
If you still have my image, try to play the mt2s file from the dvd, on your pc.

Just click on the file directly. If it fails, you have a codec issue

The AVCHD was created using the steps below.

1. Captured the *.ts video from a Motorola DCH-3416 on the Comcast network using instructions provided here.
http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

2. File was cut to include only the exact frames needed by using VideoRedo Plus. File was saved as *.mpg. Trial version available
http://www.videoredo.com/en/Download.htm?download=plus

3. TSMuxer GUI was used to import the *.mpg file. I verified that the video stream, and only 1 audio stream was selected. Click the "Create Blu-Ray Disc" radiobutton. Choose a directory for the output. Click "start muxing"
http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

4. Launch Nero Burning ROM. From the "New Compilation Window", select DVD from the very top left corner. Now select "DVD-ROM (UDF)" from the left hand pane. Goto the UDF tab, up top. Set "options" to "manual settings". Set "parition type" to "physical partition". Set "file system version" to "UDF 2.50".
Click "New" at the bottom of the screen.
ftp://nero-mirror.com/software/Nero8/current/Nero-8.3.2.1b_eng_trial.exe

5. On the right hand side, browse to the directory you selected in Step 3. Drag & Drop the "BDMV" and "CERTIFICATE" directories to the left hand pane where the DVD is authored. Click the "Burn" icon at the top of the screen.

You should now have a working disc. Well, at least a disc that works on a PS3 :D

Sorry for the cross post:

Thanks for this great information! I’ve successfully burned the sample AVCHD and it IS playable on my 1500, but when I attempt to mux a saved .mpg (converted .ts of my own, using VideoRedo Plus as instructed) using TSMuxer GUI, I get an “Errors” Message (after the Mux)) “Unsupported Media Type 4 for Blu-Ray Muxing”.

I continue, using Nero Burning ROM to burn the BDMV & CERTIFICATE files (step 4 & 5) without any problem, but when I attempt to play the disc in my Samsung 1500, it goes into “Stop” Mode after loading.

What am I doing wrong?

Where did you get the .ts file from? What cable company do you have? What cable box? if it is a 1080i capture, try doing a 720p or vice versa.

Also, I suggest you do a short 1 minute capture, for testing purposes.

If it still fails, upload the 1 minute raw .ts to that same hosting service I used, and post the link. I will try it on my side.
Sorry for the cross post:

Thanks for this great information! I’ve successfully burned the sample AVCHD and it IS playable on my 1500, but when I attempt to mux a saved .mpg (converted .ts of my own, using VideoRedo Plus as instructed) using TSMuxer GUI, I get an “Errors” Message (after the Mux)) “Unsupported Media Type 4 for Blu-Ray Muxing”.

I continue, using Nero Burning ROM to burn the BDMV & CERTIFICATE files (step 4 & 5) without any problem, but when I attempt to play the disc in my Samsung 1500, it goes into “Stop” Mode after loading.

What am I doing wrong?

Where did you get the .ts file from? What cable company do you have? What cable box? if it is a 1080i capture, try doing a 720p or vice versa.

Also, I suggest you do a short 1 minute capture, for testing purposes.

If it still fails, upload the 1 minute raw .ts to that same hosting service I used, and post the link. I will try it on my side.

Thank you!
These clips are from my Sony FX-1/A-1 Camcorders. (Vacation, Grandson, Mardi Gras, etc.)They were HDV converted to .ts (1080i) using Sony Vegas 7. I've burned these .ts files on a regular DVD-R and they play back flawlessly on my I.O DATA AVLINK HD (DVD) Player. I do have access to some (short) commercially produced .ts files and I'll try converting one of them as you suggested.
Thanks again for your help and kindness,
Ben

Ahhh. I have zero experience with camcorder files.
The .ts files that come off of the cable boxes in most of the USA are mpeg2 files. I have no idea if the linked process will work for you. Search in this thread, as there are many posts regarding camcorders.
Thank you!
These clips are from my Sony FX-1/A-1 Camcorders. (Vacation, Grandson, Mardi Gras, etc.)They were HDV converted to .ts (1080i) using Sony Vegas 7. I've burned these .ts files on a regular DVD-R and they play back flawlessly on my I.O DATA AVLINK HD (DVD) Player. I do have access to some (short) commercially produced .ts files and I'll try converting one of them as you suggested.
Thanks again for your help and kindness,
Ben

Ahhh. I have zero experience with camcorder files.
The .ts files that come off of the cable boxes in most of the USA are mpeg2 files. I have no idea if the linked process will work for you. Search in this thread, as there are many posts regarding camcorders.

The commercial .ts file worked perfectly, so I'm sure there's a way to convert my Camcorder files (raw .m2t) somehow to the correct format.

Thanks again for your help,
Ben

The commercial .ts file worked perfectly, so I'm sure there's a way to convert my Camcorder files (raw .m2t) somehow to the correct format.

Thanks again for your help,
Ben
Ben,

HDV format has audio in MPEG format. Blu-ray specs don't support MPEG audio. You need to demultiplex your .m2t file into elementary streams, video (.m2v) and audio (.mpa). Then re-encode .mpa into Dolby Digital .ac3 file, then multiplex them back into .m2ts file with tsMuxeR.

Commercial .ts files have no problem because audio is in DD format.

Why some of my AVCHD burnt on DVD 5 show 1/3rd GREEN SCREEN on bottom once played back on PS3. I did not select subtitles while creating BDV with TsREMUX?

Ben,

HDV format has audio in MPEG format. Blu-ray specs don't support MPEG audio. You need to demultiplex your .m2t file into elementary streams, video (.m2v) and audio (.mpa). Then re-encode .mpa into Dolby Digital .ac3 file, then multiplex them back into .m2ts file with tsMuxeR.

Commercial .ts files have no problem because audio is in DD format.

Thank you for your help. I downloaded two different (tryware) encoders in an attempt to convert the .mpa file to .ac3, but neither one would work. Can you suggest a suitable program for this application?
Thanks again,
Ben

Thank you for your help. I downloaded two different (tryware) encoders in an attempt to convert the .mpa file to .ac3, but neither one would work. Can you suggest a suitable program for this application?
Thanks again,
Ben

You said in your previous post that you had Vegas 7. Just use it to convert .mpa to .ac3.

I used Vegas 7 before, now I use Vegas 8 Pro.

Why some of my AVCHD burnt on DVD 5 show 1/3rd GREEN SCREEN on bottom once played back on PS3. I did not select subtitles while creating BDV with TsREMUX?

Look at the resolution of the file in tsMuxeR. It should be 1920X1080 or 1280X720. If it is something like 1920X800 then it is cropped and that is why you get the green. The only solution is to re-encode to the proper HDTV resolution.

Mike T

Look at the resolution of the file in tsMuxeR. It should be 1920X1080 or 1280X720. If it is something like 1920X800 then it is cropped and that is why you get the green. The only solution is to re-encode to the proper HDTV resolution.

Mike T

thanks a lot, I think, you are right! But when I remux it to .ts files and then play via tversity or downloaded to my ps3 HD then it is not cropped? only in AVCHD though?

[QUOTE=MozartMan;14115572]You said in your previous post that you had Vegas 7. Just use it to convert .mpa to .ac3.

Thank you! It works perfectly!

I have hv20 and Sony Vegas Pro 8. In Vegas I render my footage using the mainconcept encoder 1440X1080. I customize this encoder and under system tab I check save as seperate elementary streams which creates a .mv2 video file and .mpa audio file since Bluray does not accept mpeg audio. The bitrate is set as constant at 25,000,000 bps. Then I separately render an audio file as .ac3. Then I open up tsmuxer 1.3.6 and select the .mv2 file and the .ac3 file and create a .mt2s file which I then load into tsremux v.0.0.21.2. Output to bluray and then burn these folders using imgburn to DVD-R. This will then autoplay on my ps3. However, I noticed when playing the video, there is a very slight stutter every few seconds. Am I doing this right?

I have hv20 and Sony Vegas Pro 8. In Vegas I render my footage using the mainconcept encoder 1440X1080. I customize this encoder and under system tab I check save as seperate elementary streams which creates a .mv2 video file and .mpa audio file since Bluray does not accept mpeg audio. The bitrate is set as constant at 25,000,000 bps. Then I separately render an audio file as .ac3. Then I open up tsmuxer 1.3.6 and select the .mv2 file and the .ac3 file and create a .mt2s file which I then load into tsremux v.0.0.21.2. Output to bluray and then burn these folders using imgburn to DVD-R. This will then autoplay on my ps3. However, I noticed when playing the video, there is a very slight stutter every few seconds. Am I doing this right?
kitzj0,

1. You don't have to use TSRemux. tsMuxeR 1.8.4 has Blu-ray disk output.
You can download it from here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104

2. Stutter may be from TSRemux.

Thanks MozartMan. That did the trick. When reading through this post, I googled tsmuxer and downloaded an older version where bluray was greyed out. This works perfectly!

Now on to figuring out how to do menus which will probably be impossible to figure out.

Thanks MozartMan. That did the trick. When reading through this post, I googled tsmuxer and downloaded an older version where bluray was greyed out. This works perfectly!

Now on to figuring out how to do menus which will probably be impossible to figure out.

TSRemux and tsMuxeR don't do menus.

If you want menus, you need to invest $100 in Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6+, or wait until DVD Architect 5 comes out.

You can download my guide for MF6+ from this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13065746#post13065746

MozrtMan: I'm patiently waiting for DVD 5 architect to come out. I have Ulead VS11.5 plus. I may try to use your method using your tutorial for moviefactory with videostudio. I don't want to have to buy another program right now.

Will DVD A 5 solve these problems and create a disk playable in the ps3? Also this week I am getting a bluray burner, but I suspect I will have the same problem with menus using VideoStudio 11.5.

I have tried burning a Bluray disk to hard drive in VideoStudio 11.5 and using imgburn to burn those files to DVD-R. However, the ps3 only recognizes that disk as a data disk without menus. I have been successful using Vegas to create an AVCHD file whick I use Ulead VS 11.5 to author a menu based avchd disk, but this doesn't look as good as the 25,000,000 bps mpg using the mainconcept encoder.

[QUOTE=MozartMan;14115572]You said in your previous post that you had Vegas 7. Just use it to convert .mpa to .ac3.

Thank you! It works perfectly!

Looks like I spoke too soon! I'm experiencing the same "stutter" and audio dropouts with some of my converted files, and I'm using tsMuxeR 1.8.4 Also using Nero 8 (Burning ROM) to burn, following the setup instructions.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Ben

When I used tsmuxer 1.8.4 that seamed to solve the stuttering issue for me. However, I only did one file and have not tested other files.

Make sure you're burning to DVD using UDF 2.50 physical disc type format in ImgBurn or Nero. If not, you may get stutters.

Make sure you're burning to DVD using UDF 2.50 physical disc type format in ImgBurn or Nero. If not, you may get stutters.

Thanks,
I'm doing exactly that, using Nero. Perhaps I should try ImgBurn.

Hmmm. ImgBurn may not solve your issue. If you can upload a 30-60 second sample to something like Rapidshare & send a link, I can test it for you.

hi, i did a small "scenarist ps3 patch", to adress the "CopyPermissionIndicator" value for scenarist v4.3 users...

by default, it start a project with "0", so its not necesary to adjust project anymore.

put in "Sonic\Scenarist HDMV\AuthoringApplication\dll"

this patch is based on the "dvdit ps3 patch", that only change the initial value. nothing else.

backup old one ;)

Hmmm. ImgBurn may not solve your issue. If you can upload a 30-60 second sample to something like Rapidshare & send a link, I can test it for you.

Thanks for your help.

Additional Information:
Following the procedures that seemed to work and allow me to successfully burn my converted .ts files to DVD-R (Blu-Ray), I’ve hit a ROAD BLOCK.
I don’t know what happened, but now, after burning a disc using Nero ROM, the disc won’t even play correctly in my Computer. The Audio stutters along, and the video is just still images.
What’s puzzling, is after muxing the video and ac3 audio files, the .m2ts Stream File, within the BDMV folder, plays back flawlessly, both audio and video in the computer.

I would guess that something must be incorrectly set in Nero ROM? I’m going to try a re-install of Nero 8.

Any advice would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks,
Ben

Following the procedures that seemed to work and allow me to successfully burn my converted .ts files
Are these HDV files or .ts files from cable box?

after muxing the video and ac3 audio files, the .m2ts Stream File, within the BDMV folder, plays back flawlessly, both audio and video in the computer.
What application do you use for muxing?

I would guess that something must be incorrectly set in Nero ROM?
Usually burning application has nothing to do with video playback.

P.S.

Stutter usually comes from bad muxing and/or wrong filed order (in my experience).

Are these HDV files or .ts files from cable box?

HDV converted to .ts (HDVtoMPG2). Then processed using VideoReDoPlus.
Audio .ac3 extracted (per your advice) in Vegas. I also tried using Vegas to extract both an .mpg2 (from the raw .m2t files) and a .m2v. Also attempted to extract from the .ts file using Vegas 8Pro. Every combination that I tried to use failed to burn a playable DVD.


What application do you use for muxing?
tsMuxeR_1.8.4B


Usually burning application has nothing to do with video playback.

P.S.

Stutter usually comes from bad muxing and/or wrong filed order (in my experience).
Perhaps I should re-install tsMuxeR ?

Thanks for your help,
Ben

HDV converted to .ts (HDVtoMPG2). Then processed using VideoReDoPlus.

Are sure it is HDVtoMPG2? I only know HDTVtoMPEG2 application.
If it is HDTVtoMPEG2, then I think this is where you problem is. HDTVtoMPEG2 doesn't handle HDV files correctly (per my experience). You don't need to use HDTVtoMPEG2 at all and you don't need to convert HDV (.m2t) file to .ts file.

This is what I do:

1. I load .m2t file (raw or edited) into VideoReDo, then save it as separate streams (.m2v and .mpa) (basically this is demuxing procedure, and VideoReDo does very good job)

2. Then I encode .mpa file to .ac3 file using Vegas 8 Pro.

3. Use tsMuxeR 1.8.4B to mux .m2v (HDV video stream) and .ac3 (DD audio) into .m2ts file.

That .m2ts file plays perfectly on PS3 from any media.



I didn't try Blu-ray output from tsMuxeR 1.8.4B to burn to DVD disk and play on PS3. I will try it tonight.

Given what we know today, if shopping for a camcorder, would it be better to get an AVCHD model, or an HDV model?

Given what we know today, if shopping for a camcorder, would it be better to get an AVCHD model, or an HDV model?

I would go with HDV camcorder that uses DV tapes.

1. DV tape is your instant backup media (more reliable than HDD or flash or mini-DVD).

2. Better quality than AVCHD (25 Mbit/s vs 16 Mbit/s)

3. Easier to edit (old mature MPEG-2 technology)

4. You can always convert HDV (MPEG-2) to AVCHD (AVC) (with Vegas or other programs) and it will be better quality than AVCHD directly from camcorder. On the other hand you will not gain anything converting AVCHD (AVC) to HDV (MPEG-2).

Given what we know today, if shopping for a camcorder, would it be better to get an AVCHD model, or an HDV model?

I bought an AVCHD HD camcorder, just so I could do away with tapes and the need to properly store them. I have an old Sony DV camcorder and have had to renew several tapes here and there.

HDDs are cheap, and you can splat backups of SD cards in various places. With the right size, you can also dump the raw contents of the card straight to DVD as well.

Seggers

Are sure it is HDVtoMPG2? I only know HDTVtoMPEG2 application.
If it is HDTVtoMPEG2, then I think this is where you problem is. HDTVtoMPEG2 doesn't handle HDV files correctly (per my experience). You don't need to use HDTVtoMPEG2 at all and you don't need to convert HDV (.m2t) file to .ts file.

My error. It is, of course. HDTVtoMPEG2. Unfortunately, most of my raw .m2t files are no longer available, having been converted to .ts files for playback on my old AV/Link HD DVD Player, using DVHSTool.

This is what I do:

1. I load .m2t file (raw or edited) into VideoReDo, then save it as separate streams (.m2v and .mpa) (basically this is demuxing procedure, and VideoReDo does very good job)

Excuse my lack of knowlege, but I don't seem to find an option in VideoReDo to save a file in .mpa format. Are you saving in .mpg and then somehow splitting the file into .m2v and .mpa?

2. Then I encode .mpa file to .ac3 file using Vegas 8 Pro.

I've tried both the .ts file and the .mpg file to extract the .ac3 in Vegas, but not the .mpa. This may be a contributing factor.

3. Use tsMuxeR 1.8.4B to mux .m2v (HDV video stream) and .ac3 (DD audio) into .m2ts file.

So you DON'T use Blu-Ray Output? That may be the answer to my problem!

That .m2ts file plays perfectly on PS3 from any media.

I was able to try the muxing setup as you described, but after burning in Nero 8, it won't play on my Samsung 1500



I didn't try Blu-ray output from tsMuxeR 1.8.4B to burn to DVD disk and play on PS3. I will try it tonight.

Thanks for your help and advise,
Ben

Excuse my lack of knowlege, but I don't seem to find an option in VideoReDo to save a file in .mpa format. Are you saving in .mpg and then somehow splitting the file into .m2v and .mpa?

No, you are not saving in .mpa format. You just de-multiplex .m2t or .ts file (save video and audio as separate streams). Audio file comes out in whatever format it was inside MPEG file.

When you load file in VideoReDo, click Save As... button

In Save As dialog box click on drop-down arrow Save as type:

Choose Elementary Streams (*.mpv)

Click Save button


This will de-multiplex your .m2t or .ts file into elementary stream.

I was able to try the muxing setup as you described, but after burning in Nero 8, it won't play on my Samsung 1500
I think PS3 is the only one Blu-ray player that will play bare files (.m2t, .m2ts, .mp4, .mpg) from any media because it is like multimedia PC.

Any other stand alone will only play authored disks (AVCHD or BD), not data disks.

2. Better quality than AVCHD (25 Mbit/s vs 16 Mbit/s)


Is this still the case? I would think that as AVCHD bitrates increase you should see better results from AVCHD with the newer camcorders.

Not making any claims, just asking - I would have thought that AVCHD at full res at 16 Mbps would compete with 1440x1080 MPEG2 at 25... just conceptually...

I would also think that the new cams that record direct to flash would be an improvement over tape...?

Is this still the case? I would think that as AVCHD bitrates increase you should see better results from AVCHD with the newer camcorders.

I based my statements on posts on Sony Vegas forum. Most of those posters are pros or indies. Somebody asked the same question regarding what camcorder to buy, AVCHD or HDV. Most answers where HDV.

Not making any claims, just asking - I would have thought that AVCHD at full res at 16 Mbps would compete with 1440x1080 MPEG2 at 25... just conceptually...

Yes, it is possible. I personally converted HDV MPEG-2 file to AVCHD (AVC at 16 Mbps) using Vegas 8 Pro. Quality almost identical. But what I've seen on Sony Vegas forum, AVCHD that comes out of camcorder is still less quality than HDV because it has to be done in real time, and AVC (AVCHD) codec requires a lot of horse power.

I would also think that the new cams that record direct to flash would be an improvement over tape...?
Probably yes in terms of convenience, because video file is the same, HDV or AVCHD, regardless the media.

Probably yes in terms of convenience, because video file is the same, HDV or AVCHD, regardless the media.

Well, conceptually the flash media may offer better peak bitrate opportunities, with a number of assumptions of course (live VBR being one of them).

Certainly the fact that these encodes are done in real time has a strong effect on quality.

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think this is the right thread, if not please forgive. I'm considering buying a blu-ray burner. My wife has bought me a "cheap" hd camcorder and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the hd content (.mov) onto a dvd or edit them. Here's what i've learned so far....

1. I can convert (i use this term loosely) .mov file to avi by changing the file extension, this does not always work.
2. By changing the file extension windowsmoviemaker still does not see the file.
3. I can use a free dvd converter called "dvdclick" to convert the .mov to .vob file, still can't edit them and they loose quality (not what i want).
4. Various different programs, handbrake, super, etc. can convert these .mov files after some trial and error on my part, but all loose quality.
5. I have no software that can edit the .mov file like movie maker, I may have to just break down and purchase something. The problem being is that the video editor are quite pricey.
6. Regardless of what i've tried, i can't get .mov (hd content) to burn to a standard dvd and play in my ps3 or any other player for that matter (i assume standard players don't read hd content even on a standard dvd?)

So, perhaps a blu-ray burner w/ packed in software would help? If so, where's the cheapest/best deal on a br burner? Newegg?

Thanks,

I think this is the right thread, if not please forgive. I'm considering buying a blu-ray burner. My wife has bought me a "cheap" hd camcorder and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the hd content (.mov) onto a dvd or edit them. Here's what i've learned so far...

What brand and model of your camcorder?

What brand and model of your camcorder?

The very high dollar Aiptek ActionHD :)

Originally Posted by Brajesh:

After you open VRD, click 'Tools', then while holding down the 'Shift' key, choose 'Options'. This gives you extra setup options. Find the line 'Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs' and enable it to 'True'.

SUCCESS! After changing this option in VideoReDo, everything I'm muxing (and burning) is perfect!

Thank you, GumboChief, MozartMan and Brajesh for all of your help and suggestions.
Ben

Originally Posted by Brajesh:

After you open VRD, click 'Tools', then while holding down the 'Shift' key, choose 'Options'. This gives you extra setup options. Find the line 'Add GOP Timecode to all GOPs' and enable it to 'True'.

SUCCESS! After changing this option in VideoReDo, everything I'm muxing (and burning) is perfect!

Thank you, GumboChief, MozartMan and Brajesh for all of your help and suggestions.
Ben
You are welcome.

I forgot about that tweak found by Brajesh. After that I didn't have any single problem with .ts files processed by VideoReDo.

Given what we know today, if shopping for a camcorder, would it be better to get an AVCHD model, or an HDV model?

I think what to expect is that HDV will be replaced by AVCHD on consumer camcorders, yet HDV will remain in widespread use in prosumer/semi-pro type cams.

It's not germaine to compare the pro-type HDV Canon XH-A1 to the consumer Canon AVCHD HF10 and explain the differences by the codec. There are few if any HDV consumer cams left.

I think consumer AVCHD cams like the Sony SR11/12 and Canon HF10 are comparable with consumer HDV cams like the Canon HV10/20 on a more or less equal basis, slightly sharper for the former, slightly more organic for the latter.

The HDV workflow is still in the lead currently. Tapeless memory is compelling for many users, but there is no qualitative advantage to the image quality.

I just bought Toast 9.0.2 and burned my first Blu-Ray spec disc on a standard DVD-R using the AVCHD files off of my Canon HF-100. REALLY impressed with how easy it is to create a high quality disc with working menus on the fly like that!! WOW!

The only issue I have seen so far is that when I pop in the disc in my PS3 and I start watching the video, I can not skip ahead to the next clip by pressing the chapter advance button on the remote. It just says "operation not available here". I can, however, use the fast forward buttons without a problem.

I can access the menu and select whichever clip I want to see, however, which does seem to work ok. Just wondering if I am doing something wrong and if there is a way to enable the chapter search.

On a side-note, I did create a Blu-Ray spec disc out of the same DVD-R type media using theses steps and the chapter search button works just fine:

http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp

Any thoughts?

The HDV workflow is still in the lead currently.

Then it would be HDV for me. I think that at some point, people are going to get really ticked off to not have a way to share video with others

Wow. That Canon is over $3K :D

Wow. That Canon is over $3K :D

It was about $4k when I bought it. I now have a Sony PMW-EX1 XDCAM, which was $6.5k. But it hasn't changed the way I feel about the Canon XH-A1. It remains an *incredible* camera, and an absolute steal for $3k.

Interesting though, that the XDCAM series record on solid state or optical disk media, yet continue to use long GOP mpeg2, which happily means it works just great with TSMuxer and the posted Blu-ray disk creation workflows from this topic.

Looking through the Doom9 forum yesterday I saw the mention of Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme. It looks like it can do BDMV and AVCHD with menus. The menu and playback options are somewhat limited, but of course the same could be said of the current Ulead software. I haven't looked at the program in detail for what most people here would be using it for, but it appears it can pass 24p compliant video with menus which Ulead can't do. Anyway, there's a 15 day trial http://www.arcsoft.com/support/downloads/downloadnow.asp?downloadid=411

Looking through the Doom9 forum yesterday I saw the mention of Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme. It looks like it can do BDMV and AVCHD with menus. The menu and playback options are somewhat limited, but of course the same could be said of the current Ulead software. I haven't looked at the program in detail for what most people here would be using it for, but it appears it can pass 24p compliant video with menus which Ulead can't do. Anyway, there's a 15 day trial http://www.arcsoft.com/support/downloads/downloadnow.asp?downloadid=411

In the posts you saw, any mention of it being able to use an mpeg2 HD file, without re-encoding it?

That is the key.

Anything in the $1500 range worth recommending?
Mpeg2 HD.
It was about $4k when I bought it. I now have a Sony PMW-EX1 XDCAM, which was $6.5k. But it hasn't changed the way I feel about the Canon XH-A1. It remains an *incredible* camera, and an absolute steal for $3k.

Interesting though, that the XDCAM series record on solid state or optical disk media, yet continue to use long GOP mpeg2, which happily means it works just great with TSMuxer and the posted Blu-ray disk creation workflows from this topic.

any mention of it being able to use an mpeg2 HD file, without re-encoding it?

As far as I could tell the program passes compliant video with a single audio stream to either BDMV or AVCHD (the program failed on one test until multiple audio tracks were stripped). AVCHD is intended to be burned to DVD, but it only supports mpeg4. BDMV is intended to be burned to Blu-ray, and it does support mpeg2 video. The program also supports BDAV, but it's set to burn to Blu-ray so unless a particular player doesn't support BDMV that seems somewhat pointless. In spite of the Wiki entry and programs such as tsMuxer, I'm not so sure BD9 was really ever intended to be burned to standard DVDs so I question if there will ever be commercial consumer products that natively support mpeg2 HD video with menus on DVD media.

Looking through the Doom9 forum yesterday I saw the mention of Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme. It looks like it can do BDMV and AVCHD with menus. The menu and playback options are somewhat limited, but of course the same could be said of the current Ulead software. I haven't looked at the program in detail for what most people here would be using it for, but it appears it can pass 24p compliant video with menus which Ulead can't do. Anyway, there's a 15 day trial http://www.arcsoft.com/support/downloads/downloadnow.asp?downloadid=411
I downloaded their trial a while back and if I recall correctly it wouldn't let you create a file or disk, just get a feel for their workflow. Maybe that's changed. Ulead's trials fully work. I use their light version which comes with the Aiptek cameras but it doesn't pass through compliant file but re-encodes. An Aiptek AVC file can be remuxed to an MPEG-2 transport stream and played on a BluRay player though you may have to recode the audio from AAC to AC3 for some players (AAC works on my BDP-300) so Total Media Extreme shouldn't need to re-encode unless one is making edits.

if I recall correctly it wouldn't let you create a file or disk, just get a feel for their workflow. Maybe that's changed.

I downloaded the link and then after installing it redownloaded an update. The program shows ver 2.0.0.63 and seems to function fully. From what I've seen so far I'd say that it's in the same realm as Ulead's software. I know how to better fully customize a single menu with Ulead than what Arcsoft seems to allow, but the Arcsoft program seems to allow for custom sub-menus which Ulead only does chapter sub-menus. Anyway, I didn't remember anyone mentioning the program here so I figured I'd post about it. It appears Pinnacle also updated their software to version 12, but apparently they only allow for menus in BDMV and not AVCHD.

In the posts you saw, any mention of it being able to use an mpeg2 HD file, without re-encoding it?

That is the key.


I not sure what you mean, but I have no trouble making AVCHD disks using mpeg2 that play fine on my PS3.

Mike T

I not sure what you mean, but I have no trouble making AVCHD disks using mpeg2 that play fine on my PS3.

Mike T

So you can take a 7 gig 720p .ts file from a cablebox, and make a dual layer avchd with menus in 30 minutes? With no video conversion?
That is what I mean.

So you can take a 7 gig 720p .ts file from a cablebox, and make a dual layer avchd with menus in 30 minutes? With no video conversion?
That is what I mean.

YES, but I usually don't do menus, so I will have to try one. Also I only burn DL at 4X speed with verification on with Nero, so it takes a little over 30 minutes to burn the disk if it is DL.

Edit VideoRedo
save as .TS
load into tsMuxeR and set chapters
save as BD folders
burn with Nero as UDF 2.5
DONE

Mike T

Right. We know that works.
My original question was in reference to Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme. By your reply, I understood you were also speaking of Arcsoft.
YES, but I usually don't do menus, so I will have to try one. Also I only burn DL at 4X speed with verification on with Nero, so it takes a little over 30 minutes to burn the disk if it is DL.

Edit VideoRedo
save as .TS
load into tsMuxeR and set chapters
save as BD folders
burn with Nero as UDF 2.5
DONE

Mike T

I have no trouble making AVCHD disks using mpeg2 that play fine on my PS3.

Strictly speaking, tsMuxer/Tsremux disks aren't actually AVCHD if they don't use mpeg4 video. AVCHD includes only AVC video in the specification, so I'm not so sure there will ever be commercial consumer products that will author similar to those programs.

Strictly speaking, tsMuxer/Tsremux disks aren't actually AVCHD if they don't use mpeg4 video. AVCHD includes only AVC video in the specification, so I'm not so sure there will ever be commercial consumer products that will author similar to those programs.

I agree. I'm so glad to have TSmuxer as a bridge to the time when BD media will be affordable and ubiquitous, which I think remains somewhat distant.

For those who have Vegas 8 Pro and DVD Architect 4.5 package.

DVD Architect 5 is out and have Blu-ray authoring. You can download it from here:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates/dvdapro

I will install and test it as soon as I get home.

DVDA5 Trial:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/dvdarchitectpro
For those who have Vegas 8 Pro and DVD Architect 4.5 package.

DVD Architect 5 is out and have Blu-ray authoring. You can download it from here:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/updates/dvdapro

I will install and test it as soon as I get home.

DVDA5 Trial:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/dvdarchitectpro

It should be free upgrade if you have Vegas 8 Pro and DVDA 4.5 package.

I will find out this in three hours.

It should be free upgrade if you have Vegas 8 Pro and DVDA 4.5 package.

I will find out this in three hours.
I have the trial loaded.
Do you know of an online tutorial?

I have the trial loaded.
Do you know of an online tutorial?

Here is couple sites:

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~wvg/DVD-A%201.htm

http://www.jetdv.com/vegas/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54

Sony DVD Architect forum:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowTopics.asp?ForumID=22

Very interesting:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=601834&Replies=2

Interesting indeed, especially if MPEG2 is supported for DVD5/9 output. Know if it leaves compliant video as is, i.e. no re-encoding?

Interesting indeed, especially if MPEG2 is supported for DVD5/9 output. Know if it leaves compliant video as is, i.e. no re-encoding?

Looking at page 25 http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/link?id=3430.1 it looks like the program can only do BDMV. My BDP-S1 can play BDMV from DVD, but almost every other player doesn't. The AVCHD term appears on page 26, but I think they're just talking about AVC video and called it AVCHD without refering to disk formatting.

DVDA 5 (Blu-ray authoring) - Very disappointing.

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?MessageID=601834&Replies=7

Guys,
This may have been answered previously, but is there a method to convert x.264hv (.mkv) files to playable (AVCHD burned discs). What Software would be necessary.
Thanks,
Ben

Guys,
This may have been answered previously, but is there a method to convert x.264hv (.mkv) files to playable (AVCHD burned discs). What Software would be necessary.
Thanks,
Ben

This forum would probably be the best resource:

http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=39

Guys,
This may have been answered previously, but is there a method to convert x.264hv (.mkv) files to playable (AVCHD burned discs). What Software would be necessary.
Thanks,
Ben

RipBot264 seems to support it, from what I can tell.

Unfortunately you need to re-encode MKV files that aren't 1920x1080, 1440x1080 or 1280x720. I haven't tried it, but one way to avoid re-encoding might be to demux elementary streams via TSMuxer, then mux into an MP4 via Yamb for playback on the PS3.

I have had some success faking the headers on 1280x1080i material - authoring - then changing them back to 1280.

The result worked with my BD player but not on the PS3.

I also had to write custom code to change the res in the m2ts stream...

Unfortunately you need to re-encode MKV files that aren't 1920x1080, 1440x1080 or 1280x720. I haven't tried it, but one way to avoid re-encoding might be to demux elementary streams via TSMuxer, then mux into an MP4 via Yamb for playback on the PS3.

I used an old "Star Trek" episode (MKV) and simply muxed the file using tsMuxeR 1.8.4 and then burned it in Nero (like we're doing everything else). It worked perfectly. Of course, it's 4:3, but Captain Kirk and the crew of the Enterprise never looked so good.

Thanks for the help,
Ben

Have not kept up with this thread and I see some new authoring software mentioned here.

Can someone provide a simple step by step for the following?

Have 2 minutes worth of HD1080i BDMV format Id like to burn to regular DVD for playback on the Samsung 1400 and Panasonic 30K.

Thanks in advance!

Have not kept up with this thread and I see some new authoring software mentioned here.

Can someone provide a simple step by step for the following?

Have 2 minutes worth of HD1080i BDMV format Id like to burn to regular DVD for playback on the Samsung 1400 and Panasonic 30K.

Thanks in advance!

Alan,

Can you give us more details?

Is it single file or multiple files? MPEG-2 or AVC? Is it BDMV folder structure with subfolders and files?

Have 2 minutes worth of HD1080i BDMV format Id like to burn to regular DVD for playback on the Samsung 1400 and Panasonic 30K.


In a link up the page it was reported that the Samsung plays BDMV from DVD. The Panasonic should play AVCHD. If your video is a strict BDMV format, then I don't think the Panasonic will play it as-is from DVD media. If your video is AVCHD (is also in a BDMV folder) then I'm not so sure the Samsung would play it from DVD.

tsMuxer is free software which produces sort of a hybrid disk that isn't strictly either AVCHD or BDMV. Both players will likely play a disk from tsMuxer. The tsMuxer GUI isn't very complicated. You load your video files and select the Blu-ray option and that's about it for most sources. If your video is currently formatted as BDMV you'll need to load the m2ts video from the BDMV/Streams directory. If your current files use menus, then some of the m2ts files in that folder could be menu files but their file size should be small.

Once you've got new files from tsMuxer, then you have to burn to dvd using a UDF 2.5 disk format. Step 4 at http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/bd2dvd-blu-ray-dvd-guide-232165/ describes how to burn the files to disk. If you want you could just use step 4 from the link, burn your current BDMV files to DVD, and see if either player will play the disk.

Have not kept up with this thread and I see some new authoring software mentioned here.

Can someone provide a simple step by step for the following?

Have 2 minutes worth of HD1080i BDMV format Id like to burn to regular DVD for playback on the Samsung 1400 and Panasonic 30K.

Thanks in advance!

I purchased a Sony standalone DVD burner that a) handles raw Sony AVCHD files via USB for 1080i playback on Blu-ray players using cheap DVD-R media and b) allows for any video source (S-Video, Component, Composite) to be burned onto good ol' standard DVD's to be played back on any DVD player. It has a built in video screen and is incredibly easy to use.

http://regmedia.co.uk/2006/07/19/sony_vrd-mc3_1.jpg

I got tired of the software confusion and semi-solutions and just bought some hardware to handle it. Not sure if it answers your question, but it may help people cut to the chase in the easiest way possible.

BJ

I never had any idea there was such a thing. Looking at http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665185948&storeId=10151 it looks like the MC5 probably does AVCHD disks. The AVCHD disk format is supported by a majority of Blu-ray players, but not all. There are also a number of software options for producing AVCHD disks.

I never had any idea there was such a thing. It looks like the MC5 probably does AVCHD disks. The AVCHD disk format is supported by a majority of Blu-ray players, but not all. There are also a number of software options for producing AVCHD disks.

Yes, the thing is a dream.

First, it just takes the raw AVCHD files and puts them on cheap DVD-R's for quick and easy playback on any Blu-ray player. No sexy menus or transitions or anything, but for down-and-dirty fast archiving and playback it's perfect. My 40gb hard drive on the Sony HD Camcorder was filling up and this allows me to cheaply create discs for immediate viewing and a sequential library of all the AVCHD files.

Next, it's got every analog input known to man (S-Video, Composite, Component, etc.) so you can plug in any old camcorder to burn standard DVD's from. Yes, you can also downconvert an AVCHD widescreen HD clip to standard DVD too. There's a color screen on the burner itself that lets you see what you're recording, and you can pause (allowing to join scenes together navigationally) or stop (allowing you to make a jump point in a scene) too.

Bottom line is that I'm sure this can all be accomplished using software and conversion utilities, but the reality is that you come home from a day at the beach and want to show everyone the footage and a simple button press on the burner gets the job done in minutes. As an aside, I've also uploaded video to YouTube by using Handbrake to rip the DVD's the burner has created. Just another use for the device. When I get around to it, I'll archive all of my old VHS, VHS-C, and Mini-DV tapes in this manner.

BJ

FWIW, if people are still following the media pricing side, in Tokyo, BD-R is about 600Y each (or < $6), BD-RE is about 900Y, (or < $9). But the real movement is a TDK BD-RE 50GB which is Y2200 or about $21 in Yodobashi in Akihabara. Maxell also has a inkjet printable BD-R for just below $60 for a box of 10.

Yes, the thing is a dream.

First, it just takes the raw AVCHD files and puts them on cheap DVD-R's for quick and easy playback on any Blu-ray player. No sexy menus or transitions or anything, but for down-and-dirty fast archiving and playback it's perfect. My 40gb hard drive on the Sony HD Camcorder was filling up and this allows me to cheaply create discs for immediate viewing and a sequential library of all the AVCHD files.

Next, it's got every analog input known to man (S-Video, Composite, Component, etc.) so you can plug in any old camcorder to burn standard DVD's from. Yes, you can also downconvert an AVCHD widescreen HD clip to standard DVD too. There's a color screen on the burner itself that lets you see what you're recording, and you can pause (allowing to join scenes together navigationally) or stop (allowing you to make a jump point in a scene) too.

Bottom line is that I'm sure this can all be accomplished using software and conversion utilities, but the reality is that you come home from a day at the beach and want to show everyone the footage and a simple button press on the burner gets the job done in minutes. As an aside, I've also uploaded video to YouTube by using Handbrake to rip the DVD's the burner has created. Just another use for the device. When I get around to it, I'll archive all of my old VHS, VHS-C, and Mini-DV tapes in this manner.

BJ

So :) Do you wish to tell us that it has component input - is that true ? If so, does this mean that I can attach HD PVR via component and this device will create AVCHD disc onto 8.5GB DVD-R DL disc that can be played on any (or most) blue ray player without sacrificing HD quality. In another words 1080i and 1080i out on DVD-R DL disc ? And all of that in real-time ??? And keeping widescreen as well ? That cannot be true is it ?

What's the catch ???Am I missing something ?

Thanks,
Nikonowski

So :) Do you wish to tell us that it has component input - is that true ? If so, does this mean that I can attach HD PVR via component and this device will create AVCHD disc onto 8.5GB DVD-R DL disc that can be played on any (or most) blue ray player without sacrificing HD quality. In another words 1080i and 1080i out on DVD-R DL disc ? And all of that in real-time ??? And keeping widescreen as well ? That cannot be true is it ?

What's the catch ???Am I missing something ?

Thanks,
Nikonowski

First off, I mis-spoke; it has a USB input for the transfer of AVCHD files from camcorders directly to DVD-R's. Has composite and S-Video inputs too. Does not have component. Sorry.

Next, I never thought of this as a way to get HD broadcast video off a DVR and that's an interesting idea. The product has a USB input (sniffs for file format and only pulls AVCHD from what I can tell) but it also has a DV input as well. I wonder if there's a way to get a 1080i signal from a DVR onto this via either the USB or DV inputs.

EDIT: The DV is Firewire and that's not HD so forget that. While you can't rip a DVR broadcast into the MC5 to get it in HD, you can get it in SD in widescreen using the S-Video input. Not great, but its an option for those that have older non-HD video to archive (like my original Super Bowl broadcast collection that stretches back to 1986).

BJ

First off, I mis-spoke; it has a USB input for the transfer of AVCHD files from camcorders directly to DVD-R's. Has composite and S-Video inputs too. Does not have component. Sorry.

Next, I never thought of this as a way to get HD broadcast video off a DVR and that's an interesting idea. The product has a USB input (sniffs for file format and only pulls AVCHD from what I can tell) but it also has a DV input as well. I wonder if there's a way to get a 1080i signal from a DVR onto this via either the USB or DV inputs.

EDIT: The DV is Firewire and that's not HD so forget that. While you can't rip a DVR broadcast into the MC5 to get it in HD, you can get it in SD in widescreen using the S-Video input. Not great, but its an option for those that have older non-HD video to archive (like my original Super Bowl broadcast collection that stretches back to 1986).

BJ

Thanks for clarifications :) I knew it was too good to be true :))

BTW - Firewire is capable of transfering (via streaming) of HD signal. I have done it with my HD PVR but in TS format. It would be interesting to try. Perhaps you could do that and let us know ?

Regards,
Nikonowski

Mozart Man mentioned Sony DVD-Architect 5.0 as now having blu-ray authoring onto regular DVD media, which as he pointed out, don't have autoplay or chapter functionality on the PS3.

One thing it does do however, is author BDMV without re-encoding of *compliant* video and audio files. I wonder if by using DVD-A 5.0 to test for compliancy, if such files wrapped into the AVCHD container by TSMuxer would achieve more widespread compatibility with more Blu-ray players?

Mozart Man mentioned Sony DVD-Architect 5.0 as now having blu-ray authoring onto regular DVD media, which as he pointed out, don't have autoplay or chapter functionality on the PS3.

One thing it does do however, is author BDMV without re-encoding of *compliant* video and audio files. I wonder if by using DVD-A 5.0 to test for compliancy, if such files wrapped into the AVCHD container by TSMuxer would achieve more widespread compatibility with more Blu-ray players?

Tom,

Forget DVDA 5.0. It sucks in terms of Blu-ray and AVCHD authoring. It wants to recompress every MPEG-2 or AVCHD videos except those ones that rendered in Vegas with unmodified templates.

Thanks for clarifications :) I knew it was too good to be true :))

BTW - Firewire is capable of transfering (via streaming) of HD signal. I have done it with my HD PVR but in TS format. It would be interesting to try. Perhaps you could do that and let us know ?

Regards,
Nikonowski

I'd be happy to test that with my MC5, but I need someone to direct me to the right cable (guessing here) that will allow me to hook up my D* HR20 via component to the Firewire input. Is there a Component To Firewire cable or another way to do this? The other inputs on the MC5 are Memory Stick, CF, and USB.

I have doubts on the USB being a solution as the MC5 seems to use that to sniff for raw AVCHD files on whatever it's attached to. Might be wrong there.

I also have doubts about Firewire being a solution as I believe I read in the manual that only the USB input can render HD because it's simply pulling a raw AVCHD file over to the DVD-R. The MC5 isn't "recording" in HD; it's just transferring over the AVCHD files and organizing them on a disc that Blu-ray players can read and display on an HDTV.

So.....let me know about these three test scenarios so I can execute them:

1. Component Out to Firewire In.
2. Component Out to USB In.
3. Component Out to Flash Media (MS, CF) In.

BJ

This device can do what you are asking for. Record hidef content from a cable box via component. Saves realtime as an h.264 file of some sort:
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html


LONG thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1015617


Thanks for clarifications :) I knew it was too good to be true :))

Regards,
Nikonowski

This device can do what you are asking for. Record hidef content from a cable box via component. Saves realtime as an h.264 file of some sort:
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html


LONG thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1015617

The good news: If this Hauppague device does what it says it does and rips from a DVR to its internal drive in AVCHD format, then the MC5's USB connection should be able to see those files and encode them onto a DVD-R.

The bad news: I'm not spending $249 to find out (unless someone can point me to a store with a good return policy if I find that its not what we're looking for).

BJ

The good news: If this Hauppague device does what it says it does and rips from a DVR to its internal drive in AVCHD format, then the MC5's USB connection should be able to see those files and encode them onto a DVD-R.

The bad news: I'm not spending $249 to find out (unless someone can point me to a store with a good return policy if I find that its not what we're looking for).

BJ

The Hauppague does not have an internal drive. It is a capture device which dumps the rendered file to your PC.
It is not AVCHD. It is a funky .ts transport which contains an mpeg4 h.264 stream, within.

The device is still a little buggy (and does not yet support 5.1 audio), but it does "work"

The Hauppague does not have an internal drive. It is a capture device which dumps the rendered file to your PC.
It is not AVCHD. It is a funky .ts transport which contains an mpeg4 h.264 stream, within.

The device is still a little buggy (and does not yet support 5.1 audio), but it does "work"

The files in my Sony HD Camcorder are in the following file format:

flilenamehere.m2ts.dcm
filenamehere.modd.dcm

(each video has two files associated with it as above)

These have "ts" in them, so are they the same thing? Theoretically, do I get the dump from the Hauppague on the PC and then transfer them via USB into the camcorder's drive then sync to the MC5 and then we've got a solution? Rip to PC > Move to Camcorder > Sync > Burn as AVCHD > Blu-ray Player?

I emailed them today and this was their response:

Dear Xxxxx Xxxxx,

The HD PVR would require a PC to operate, so it would not be able to export to a standalone player directly. It would not have any USB output interface.

The HD PVR encodes into a .TS file format (Transport stream) which uses H.264 encoding. These streams are compliant for burning to DVD which are readable by a blu ray disk player. The compatibility of playback on the Sony MC5 is unknown.

Regards,

xxxx.
xxxx@Hauppauge.com
Technical Support
Hauppauge Computer Works
New York

The files are not the same.

I dont understand why you would need or want the hauppauge, given that you have the MC5.

But the proper workflow would be-
Connect camcorder component out to hauppauge.
Press play on comcorder
Capture the feed onto PCs drive as h.264
Use tsmuxer to demux the stream to h.264 video & aac audio.
transcode aac to ac3
remux h.264 video & ac3 audio to bluray format using tsmuxer
Burn to DVD, and play
The files in my Sony HD Camcorder are in the following file format:

flilenamehere.m2ts.dcm
filenamehere.modd.dcm

(each video has two files associated with it as above)

These have "ts" in them, so are they the same thing? Theoretically, do I get the dump from the Hauppague on the PC and then transfer them via USB into the camcorder's drive then sync to the MC5 and then we've got a solution? Rip to PC > Move to Camcorder > Sync > Burn as AVCHD > Blu-ray Player?

I emailed them today and this was their response:

Dear Xxxxx Xxxxx,

The HD PVR would require a PC to operate, so it would not be able to export to a standalone player directly. It would not have any USB output interface.

The HD PVR encodes into a .TS file format (Transport stream) which uses H.264 encoding. These streams are compliant for burning to DVD which are readable by a blu ray disk player. The compatibility of playback on the Sony MC5 is unknown.

Regards,

xxxx.
xxxx@Hauppauge.com
Technical Support
Hauppauge Computer Works
New York

The files are not the same.

I dont understand why you would need or want the hauppauge, given that you have the MC5.

But the proper workflow would be-
Connect camcorder component out to hauppauge.
Press play on comcorder
Capture the feed onto PCs drive as h.264
Use tsmuxer to demux the stream to h.264 video & aac audio.
transcode aac to ac3
remux h.264 video & ac3 audio to bluray format using tsmuxer
Burn to DVD, and play

I think you misunderstand the objective. I can easliy get the AVCHD home movie files off the camcorder, into the MC5, and burn a beautiful 1080i Blu-ray DVD-R in minutes for under $1. That's what its for. It's a simple way to back up a Sony camcorder with a Sony standalone DVD burner.

What we're talking about here is how to take the 1080i HD Super Bowl broadcast that's sitting on my DirecTV DVR and get it to the MC5 so as to make an HD Blu-ray version of that recorded program. The thought here, suggested by another poster, is that if there's a way to use the Hauppague to get the HD video off the DirecTV DVR in a format that the MC5 can understand, voila, we've created a hardware solution that requires no PC and software at all.

BJ

Just read on Nero's website that the new v8.2.8.0 won't re-encode AVCHD footage if it "detects when incoming AVCHD source content is compliant with the destination format" (see attached). Could it be?! If so, Nero would be a great choice for creating AVCHD DVDs w/menus. Will try tonight when I get home.

I've been frustrated w/Ulead's DVDMF6+ w/the HD pack as it crashes on me often even when I use compliant AVCHD clips from my Canon HF100 camcorder. Haven't used Sony Vegas Pro 8 or Sonic Scenarist. I quickly looked at Scenarist & found it complicated. Besides Nero and DVDMF6, do you guys know of any other tools that create AVCHD on DVDs w/simple menus and of course no re-encoding?

Arcsoft http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14177789#post14177789 has a program that does AVCHD with menus. It will pass 24p without a recode which none of the other software I've seen will do. I've ran into a couple issues with the software, but nothing any worse than what I saw with Movie Factory.

I think Cyberlink's software is also supposed to do AVCHD with menus, but the trial kept crashing with the files I tried.

Off-hand I can't think of any other consumer programs that do AVCHD with menus.

Thanks. I'll give both a try if the latest version of Nero still re-encodes.

The thought here, suggested by another poster, is that if there's a way to use the Hauppague to get the HD video off the DirecTV DVR in a format that the MC5 can understand, voila, we've created a hardware solution that requires no PC and software at all.

BJ

I very much doubt this would work.

Tom,

Forget DVDA 5.0. It sucks in terms of Blu-ray and AVCHD authoring. It wants to recompress every MPEG-2 or AVCHD videos except those ones that rendered in Vegas with unmodified templates.


I agree, it does suck but I have to point out it's not quite true about recompressing every mpeg2 except those rendered in Vegas with unmodified templates. I have changed some of the details inside the Vegas templates and got DVD-A 5.0 to not recompress, but that misses the point of my question, which is if your audio and video files *will* author to BDMV DVD5/9 with DVD-A 5.0 without recompressing, would those same compliant audio and video files wrappered by TSMuxer play in some of the standalone players that have previously refused to play our hybrid AVCHD mpeg2 disks?

but that misses the point of my question, which is if your audio and video files *will* author to BDMV DVD5/9 with DVD-A 5.0 without recompressing, would those same compliant audio and video files wrappered by TSMuxer play in some of the standalone players that have previously refused to play our hybrid AVCHD mpeg2 disks?

Actually, using the latest version of TSMuxer, there are no reported failures.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14026146&postcount=1324

Reported Compatibility for Following Players:
Panasonic DMP-BD10: Success
Panasonic DMP-BD30 v1.3: Success
PS3 firmware 2.35: Success
Samsung BDP-1400: Success
Samsung BDP-1500: Success
Sony BDP-300: Success

I'm not so sure the Sharp would play tsMuxer disks, but of course generally if you're testing compatability it's best to start with a known-compatable encode.

I'm not so sure the Sharp would play tsMuxer disks, but of course generally if you're testing compatability it's best to start with a known-compatable encode.

Did not get any responses from Sharp owners. Sorry.

I just installed TME, and made a dvd image from 720p video.
It did not re-encode. However, it created a DVD directory structure with vobs.

Is this right? Not at home, so cant test it right now on my ps3.

Did not get any responses from Sharp owners. Sorry.

I just installed TME, and made a dvd image from 720p video.
It did not re-encode. However, it created a DVD directory structure with vobs.

Is this right? Not at home, so cant test it right now on my ps3.
No, it doesn't look right. AVCHD or BD disks don't have .VOB files. Looks like made SD DVD.

No, it doesn't look right. AVCHD or BD disks don't have .VOB files. Looks like made SD DVD.

That is why I asked. I will try some different settings

That is why I asked. I will try some different settings

OK. You need to tell it bd25 or bd50, so it will create the proper structure. It is up to you to be sure it fits on your DVD.

Will test it on PS3, tonight.

I burned the structure with imgburn (udf2.5), but the PS3 does not recognize it. Only sees it as a data disc.

The main video file is 00000.m2ts. This plays if selected
The menu is 00001.m2ts. This "plays" if selected
There is also a 00002.m2ts, but it does not play on my pc or the PS3.

Glad I used an RW disc :)

I'm not sure, but my best guess was that you meant TME to be Arcsoft's program. If you're burning to DVD you have to select AVCHD after going into the disk creation area if you want it to play on the PS3. The PS3 dosen't play BDMV from DVD, which was one gripe against Sony's own software.

I'm not sure, but my best guess was that you meant TME to be Arcsoft's program. If you're burning to DVD you have to select AVCHD after going into the disk creation area if you want it to play on the PS3. The PS3 dosen't play BDMV from DVD, which was one gripe against Sony's own software.

TME= Arcsoft TotalMedia Extreme.
Found the AVCHD option, but it is transcoding my 720p video, now. I will try again when I have a different capture handy.

AVCHD only officially supports AVC video, so if it's mpeg2 video it will convert the same as any commercial consumer program doing AVCHD.

AVCHD only officially supports AVC video, so if it's mpeg2 video it will convert the same as any commercial consumer program doing AVCHD.

By your initial post here a day or two ago, I thought you were saying that this was different, and would not re-encode...

Back to TSmuxer for me.

Actually, using the latest version of TSMuxer, there are no reported failures.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14026146&postcount=1324


Awesome news.

Awesome news.

What is latest version of this software

What is latest version of this software

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

http://www.smlabs.net/tsMuxer/tsMuxeR_1.8.4(b).zip

Thanks! thats what I have!

HOW TO SPLIT A MKV FILE?

Guys,
After much success burning my HDV Camcorder files, and recorded HD movie/TV files to DVD using the information gathered by the experts that post in this forum, I've run into another problem. Burning a file on a DVD+R DL 8.5GB works flawlessly, but when the program material is larger, the file of course, must be split. I have tried both MKVMerge 2.2.0 and tsMuxeR_1.8.4, but after splitting and then burning with Nero in the usual manner, the DVD image "freezes" and "stutters" when played back. I’ve tried splitting (and saving) the files using the usual “Create Blu-ray Disc” as well as both TS and M2TS options. I’ve also tried running both the TS and M2TS saved files inVideoReDo, but they won’t open. They do mux in tsMuxeR to create a BDMV, but the result is the same.

What am I doing wrong? Is there a better program that I can use?

Thanks for your help,
Ben

HOW TO SPLIT A MKV FILE?

Guys,
After much success burning my HDV Camcorder files, and recorded HD movie/TV files to DVD using the information gathered by the experts that post in this forum, I've run into another problem. Burning a file on a DVD+R DL 8.5GB works flawlessly, but when the program material is larger, the file of course, must be split. I have tried both MKVMerge 2.2.0 and tsMuxeR_1.8.4, but after splitting and then burning with Nero in the usual manner, the DVD image "freezes" and "stutters" when played back. I’ve tried splitting (and saving) the files using the usual “Create Blu-ray Disc” as well as both TS and M2TS options. I’ve also tried running both the TS and M2TS saved files inVideoReDo, but they won’t open. They do mux in tsMuxeR to create a BDMV, but the result is the same.

What am I doing wrong? Is there a better program that I can use?

Thanks for your help,
Ben

You could try TSremux, I think the latest is version .212 from Doom9 forum. I find it will repair some file problems also.

Mike T

You could try TSremux, I think the latest is version .212 from Doom9 forum. I find it will repair some file problems also.

Mike T

Thanks for your quick response. I downloaded TSremux and tried it, but unfortunately the results were the same, Freezing and Stuttering.

Thank you for your help,
Ben

I’ve also tried running both the TS and M2TS saved files inVideoReDo, but they won’t open.

Being how you mention VideoReDo I guess you're using mpeg2 video. That's the program I would generally recommend for compatability, but as far as I can tell it considers tsRemux files non-compliant for what it's expecting like your experiences. If I was trying to do this I'd probably try to find another way to go from mkv to ts and then edit the file in VideoReDo.

A second option I'd probably try first is going to m2ts and then using the spitter mentioned here http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/bd2dvd-blu-ray-dvd-guide-232165/

New version of Sonic DVDit® Pro HD was released at price $299!

Now Supports BD-50 + AVC, VC-1 and Multi-channel PCM pass-through!

* CMF and AACS support for Blu-ray Disc replication
* NEW! AVC and VC-1 Pass-through
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* NEW! Output BD-50 Discs and Masters
* Author once and output to Blu-ray and DVD
* Deliver 1080p. 1080i or 720p movies on Blu-ray Discs
* Design interactive menus at full HD resolution
* Drag and Drop HD Slideshows
* Up to 8 uncompressed audio & 32 subtitle tracks
* Professional mastering features for DVD and Blu-ray

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/dvdit/hd/overview.html

Just thought I'd pass on some, oddly, favorable results, I didn't expect.

I have a LOT of both h264 and mpeg files recorded with dishnetwork primarily with the R5000HD.

On a particularly valued movie, actually The Last Emperor from a HBOHD broadcast in 1999, (the DVD transfer is ungodly), had a lot of small errors. With a MYHD card it would get out of synch often and most any software player played it pretty well but not perfectly. This was an old Dish 5000 DVHS recording that had audio dropouts with most receivers.

I ran The file through Videoredo then used txremux, latest version, to create a BR structure. After burning it to a -R disc for testing purposes I found the resultant disc to be terrible. Audio went in and out continually. I put the original file without any processing thru tsremux, unclicked the bypass audio alignment box, the default, and was able to burn a perfect disc. I've now done it with two other favorite movies with the same results. I think there must be some new file fixing going on with tsremux v0.0.21.2

Larry

How do you take a .mkv HD 1080P file and record it to a dvd-5 or dvd-9 without loss of the hd quality, and then be able to play it in an LG BH-100(that is the stand-alone player that has the ability to play any disc (HD DVD, Blu-Ray, and of course the dvd-5 and dvd-9). I have tried the tsremux and tsmuxer programs and converted the .mkv file to blu-ray(Certificate and BDMV files). I then copy the newly created blu-ray file to a dvd-9 using ImgBurn. Everything works fine to this point. However the disc does not play in the LG and does not play in the LG GGW H20L(optical disk drive that plays all discs...similar to the LG BH-100). What am I doing wrong....I followed the "convert .mkv to blu-ray" tutorial explicitly and it does not work.(I will post it below for those that are not familiar with it). Thank you.



Author: admin
This article is a sequel to our previous guide, which explained how to convert .MKV files to .m2ts for PlayStation 3 playback. Absolute novices are recommended to read it before continuing with this one, as we intentionally leave out some basics covered in the previous guide.

This time we show you how to convert .MKV (Matroska) files into Blu-ray or AVCHD format. The AVCHD is a fairly new format introduced by Sony and Panasonic mainly for video camera recording, but the PlayStation 3 has native support for this format. Most likely some Blu-ray players also support, or will support the AVCHD format. Generally the AVCHD is nothing new - it is basically a Blu-ray file structure and content recorded on a regular DVD media. The media capacity is lower than with Blu-ray, so the quality is not as good but still AVCHD can store high definition 720p movies on a single DVD-R.


The using AVCHD format has a few advantages over the .m2ts method:

DVD-like playback experience with chapters and auto-start in PS3
Multiple audio streams are supported
Support for subtitles (currently not supported with tsMuxer 1.7.6, but this feature is expected in the future)
If one has the ability to use Blu-ray discs, then there is the obvious advantage of huge recording capacity. But as Blu-ray recorders are at the time we are writing this rather costly and rare, we focus on AVCHD. However the same rules should apply for Blu-ray, but this is not tested.

Preconditions

tsMuxeR software. Download from here and extract to appropriate folder
ImgBurn software. Download from here and install
Matroska .MKV video files with AVC (h.264) video and AC3 audio streams
Make sure you have some free space on your hard drive as a file with roughly the same size than the original file will be created in this process.

Using tsMuxeR to author a AVCHD or Blu-ray disc

Once again the process of remuxing the files and authoring the AVCHD / Blu-ray disc is a very simple process using tsMuxeR. Through the process the video and audio remain untouched, so the quality is not impacted and the process is very fast.

Perform the following steps:

Open a .MKV file with AVC/AC3 content using the Add button
Observe the track info for AVC profile information. If it shows a value higher than 4.1, then use the Change level function to adjust it down to 4.1
Choose to Create Blu-ray disk as Output
Click browse button and choose the name and location for your file
Click Start muxing to begin
As a result a complete Blu-ray file structure is created to your destination folder. Note that this process will increase the file size of your video, so if you have an .MKV file exactly the size of a DVD-R (4.4GB), then it may not fit on the DVD-R in AVCHD format. The next step is to record it using ImgBurn.

Adding subtitles (19-May-2008 update)

The version 1.84 of tsMuxeR introduced the support of .SRT subtitle files. If you want to add subtitles to your AVCHD project, then read our new guide: Create AVCHD discs with subtitles using tsMuxeR

Using ImgBurn

The recording process for AVCHD or Blu-ray is not very different from regular DVD recording. In AVCHD / Blu-ray file structure there are two root level folders to record, and the file system must be set to UDF 2.50.

Perform the following steps:

Add folders \BDMV\ and \CERTIFICATE\ to be recorded
Under options choose File System UDF 2.50. Note that this change is persistent, and will be effective next time you start ImgBurn, unless reverted before that. Also be sure to have Recurse Subdirectories checked
Click the icon to start recording
The ImgBurn may prompt you to auto correct file systems settings - accept the proposed change. It will also prompt you for a Volume Label, where you may enter a title for the disc if you wish.
Watch the recording process go, and after it is done you are ready to watch AVCHD/Blu-ray on your PlayStation 3. Just slip in the disc and the PS3 will recognize it as a video disc, and auto-start playback. You can now switch in between multiple audio tracks (if available) just like using a DVD. With the defult settings the tsMuxeR will also place a chapter point every 5 minutes for skipping back and forward in the video.

How do you take a .mkv HD 1080P file and record it to a dvd-5 or dvd-9 without loss of the hd quality, and then be able to play it in an LG BH-100

The short answer is that it might not be possible for the standalone, but I don't think I've seen any concise reports on what the player will do. There is no consumer HD format that plays on all Blu-ray players from DVD, and the first LG standalone doesn't have full HD DVD support. If the player doesn't play tsRemux/TsMuxer disks I wouldn't bet on it playing AVCHD or BDMV from DVD either, but I suppose it's possible your video isn't compliant and wouldn't play for that reason. You could try a disk formatted by someone else as a trial if you really want like http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14026146&postcount=1324 or the link below, but it's quite possible you might just see the same results you've already seen. You could also download and try Media Factory from Ulead to try out a HD DVD on DVD disk, but the link below is what the program will create with mpeg2 video for a test.

As far as the computer drive goes, really that depends more on the playback software than anything else. I think Cyberlink's software supports AVCHD, and Arcsoft probably will play back either AVCHD or BDMV. I know Nero plays m2ts files, but it messes up levels. Anyway, I can't come up with any reason how one way or another you wouldn't be able to play HD video with the computer drive, but it probably depends more on playback software than the drive.

I have been doing some extensive reading here and noted that some people are using nero 8 which has an option to change to physical disc type rather than book type. Both of the discs that I have tried recording so far using ImgBurn were set to book type instead of physical type(ImgBurn did not give an option to allow me to change this setting). Before I ruin another disc could anyone verify that this may be the problem.

CONVERTING HD VOB TO DVD

Guys,
Again, Forgive me if this has been addressed previously, but I have acquired a 1080p.HDDVD.x264-ESIR.vob (730GB) file that I want to burn to DVD. TsRemux creates a (M2TS) file that won’t play in VideoReDo. TsMuxer can’t open the file.

How do I convert a .vob into something that will burn on Nero 8?

Thanks for your help,
Ben

I have been doing some extensive reading here and noted that some people are using nero 8 which has an option to change to physical disc type rather than book type. Both of the discs that I have tried recording so far using ImgBurn were set to book type instead of physical type(ImgBurn did not give an option to allow me to change this setting). Before I ruin another disc could anyone verify that this may be the problem.

I know it seems to improve making HD-DVD disks to use physical disk type when using DVD+R disks for HD-DVD, but I don't think it matters for making AVCHD Blu-Ray disks, I have made about 30 AVCHD disks burning with Nero7 and I have had no problems with any of them and I know they were not all burned with the "physical disk type" book setting.

Mike T

CONVERTING HD VOB TO DVD

Guys,
Again, Forgive me if this has been addressed previously, but I have acquired a 1080p.HDDVD.x264-ESIR.vob (730GB) file that I want to burn to DVD. TsRemux creates a (M2TS) file that won’t play in VideoReDo. TsMuxer can’t open the file.

How do I convert a .vob into something that will burn on Nero 8?

Thanks for your help,
Ben


VOB files are usually used with SD DVD disks not HD DVD. VideoRedo will not work with H264 files, only mpeg2 for now.

Mike T

CONVERTING HD VOB TO DVD

Guys,
Again, Forgive me if this has been addressed previously, but I have acquired a 1080p.HDDVD.x264-ESIR.vob (730GB) file that I want to burn to DVD. TsRemux creates a (M2TS) file that won’t play in VideoReDo. TsMuxer can’t open the file.

How do I convert a .vob into something that will burn on Nero 8?

Thanks for your help,
Ben

Addendum:
I tried converting using Vegas 8, but produced a 23.8GB m2v file!

There's got to be a way to do this. It's definitely a 1080p HD file. Why it has a ".vob" extension is a mystery.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

Just put together a successful Blu ray BD-RE disc of my home movies and it looks terrific. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations as to brands for BD-R and BD-RE discs and where you got them...at the high price they demand, I'd like to get em as cheap as possible, but they gotta work!! I bought a few at Shop 4 Tech and they seemed okay. Any recommendations?

Just put together a successful Blu ray BD-RE disc of my home movies and it looks terrific. I was wondering if anyone had recommendations as to brands for BD-R and BD-RE discs and where you got them...at the high price they demand, I'd like to get em as cheap as possible, but they gotta work!! I bought a few at Shop 4 Tech and they seemed okay. Any recommendations?

monoprice got ridata discs for 9 bucks
fry's got panny's for 10 bucks each
circuitcity ha dtdk for $4.99,thatsright four dollars and ninty nine cents
i swept 35 discs from circuitcity

Wow...thanks for the tip...I see that C.City is selling the TDK's for 4.99 only in the brick and mortar stores..i guess I'll see if any are left tomorrow...thanks!

:)

monoprice got ridata discs for 9 bucks
fry's got panny's for 10 bucks each
circuitcity ha dtdk for $4.99,thatsright four dollars and ninty nine cents
i swept 35 discs from circuitcity

Also newegg has some nice prices. I got a spindle of 25 inkjet printable Ridata for $200.

Addendum:
I tried converting using Vegas 8, but produced a 23.8GB m2v file!

There's got to be a way to do this. It's definitely a 1080p HD file. Why it has a ".vob" extension is a mystery.

Any ideas will be appreciated.

CANCEL MY REQUEST!

The poster of this file has acknowledged that it's full of errors and has re-posted a "good" one.

Thanks,
Ben

monoprice got ridata discs for 9 bucks
fry's got panny's for 10 bucks each
circuitcity ha dtdk for $4.99,thatsright four dollars and ninty nine cents
i swept 35 discs from circuitcity
I stopped by one C.City and they wouldn't give me the TDK's at the 4.99 price...said they weren't on sale. On my way home, i stopped by another C.City and told them to double check the price on the internet...they did, and I got the last six BD-Rs at 4.99 a piece....a nice savings! Thanks again for the tip!

glad that we picked up
tell those loosers @ CC where they refuse to give
CHECK THEIR SH*** online and price match otherwise talk to supervisior byt he way take the receipt that other CC gave

Last note from me on this topic, but I did go back to the original CC and showed them a printed version of the internet ad...this time they complied and I snagged the last 5 BD-Rs from them...that should do me for a long time. Thanks again for the tip.

sure anytime
man i do picked up 35 and iam still hunting

Last note from me on this topic, but I did go back to the original CC and showed them a printed version of the internet ad...this time they complied and I snagged the last 5 BD-Rs from them...that should do me for a long time. Thanks again for the tip.

Do you have link to that ad?

Link to ad. (http://www.circuitcity.com:80/ccd/Search.do?searchType=user&go.y=0&oid=149808&keyword=tdk+blu-ray&c=1&go.x=0&searchSection=All) But, good luck find any in stock at your CC. I was able to snag 6 pieces a while ago, but no stores within 100 miles of me carry them anymore.

On another note, it appears Corel is getting ready to release DVD MovieFactory 7 (http://www.appreadiness.com/Lists/Logo/DispForm.aspx?ID=8252). MF6+ is great for mpeg2 HD DVD authoring, okay for AVCHD authoring, and kinda poor for Blu-ray authoring, at least for me, so looking forward to how they might improve the app w/7.

New version of Sonic DVDit® Pro HD was released at price $299!

Now Supports BD-50 + AVC, VC-1 and Multi-channel PCM pass-through!

* CMF and AACS support for Blu-ray Disc replication
* NEW! AVC and VC-1 Pass-through
* NEW! Multi-channel PCM Pass-through
* NEW! Output BD-50 Discs and Masters
* Author once and output to Blu-ray and DVD
* Deliver 1080p. 1080i or 720p movies on Blu-ray Discs
* Design interactive menus at full HD resolution
* Drag and Drop HD Slideshows
* Up to 8 uncompressed audio & 32 subtitle tracks
* Professional mastering features for DVD and Blu-ray

http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/dvdit/hd/overview.html

I purchased a copy of this program. The good news is that the program appears to eventually work as advertised. The bad news is that you need a lot of patience to use this. The program has a bad "habit" of terminating when input files are not the format expected.

For instance .ts files are forbidden. If you try to import a .ts file, it will work. However, when you move .ts (transport stream) file to the timeline, a runtime error occurs and the program terminates. Another is that .mpg (program stream) files can be put on the timeline, however any burning attempts result in an error message. Only elementary streams work properly for Blu-Ray.

Once you work with elementary streams, the program is actually relatively easy to use. Oh - one more thing. If you don't have a c: drive (I use e: as my boot), the program will die before burning.

Today's fun is that with multichannel PCM audio, a 96/24 5.1-channel wave file causes the program to get a run-time error and die. After some discussions, it turns out only 96/16 and 48/16 are legal for DVDit PCM multichannel files, even though the Blu-Ray spec allows more. Using a 44.1/16 file will result in the 5.1-channel audio being reencoded into 48/16 (and in my case into mono). UPDATE: Tried 96/16 and 48/16 audio files and received a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Error! and the program ended. For $300 I would have thought I would not get any library errors.

Roxio's "saving grace" is that there is one person on their Roxio forum that knows a lot about DVDIt Pro. He has been very helpful - unlike their official support staff who, after a week of not hearing anything, said to reinstall the software to fix the .ts problem (which of course that would do nothing).

One other item of note - when I ordered DVDit Pro in early July, the web page advertised the new features. However, I received a version of the software (both electronically and on CD) that did not have the new features. I had to ask on the discussion board about getting a version with the new features in order to get them.

Once again, if you have the patience and follow the guidelines exactly DVDit Pro HD will produce a good Blu-Ray disc.

BTW, there is also a 30 day money-back guarantee (which I still haven't decided if I'm going to take).

Have you tried the AVC pass-through feature? Is it fussy as to how compliant the file is or does it give you control? I mean, is there a checkbox you can click to tell the app to not re-encode? Thanks.

Have you tried the AVC pass-through feature? Is it fussy as to how compliant the file is or does it give you control? I mean, is there a checkbox you can click to tell the app to not re-encode? Thanks.

I haven't used it yet - been working on the multichannel audio instead. However, if it is like MPEG2, then you'll get a message when you import the file saying that it is not compliant with either DVD or Blu-Ray (the message specifies which one or both). At that point you are stuck in that there is no way to turn transcoding off if the file is declared as non-compliant at import. You can force transcoding to be enabled for compliant video. Again, I'm assuming this is the same as the way MPEG2 is handled.

You might want to check the Roxio discussion board for DVDit Pro HD and get a better answer. The discussion board is under the support menu on the Roxio web site.

My BD-RE disc will not playback without stuttering. I am cutting out commercials first with videoredo and saving the files as mpg then burning them with nero. What do you have to do so your videos play back from blu-ray without stuttering?

My BD-RE disc will not playback without stuttering. I am cutting out commercials first with videoredo and saving the files as mpg then burning them with nero. What do you have to do so your videos play back from blu-ray without stuttering?

First make sure you are using the latest version of Nero 8. It would also help if you had posted which player or playback software you are using.

VideoDoDo will generate Blu-Ray compliant video with the right input and options selected. One quick suggestion is to generate .ts (transport stream) files out of VideoReDo not .mpg files. Blu-ray uses transport stream not program stream for its encapsilation.

Without knowing more it is hard to say what else you might be missing.

First make sure you are using the latest version of Nero 8. It would also help if you had posted which player or playback software you are using.

VideoDoDo will generate Blu-Ray compliant video with the right input and options selected. One quick suggestion is to generate .ts (transport stream) files out of VideoReDo not .mpg files. Blu-ray uses transport stream not program stream for its encapsilation.

Without knowing more it is hard to say what else you might be missing.




My Blu-ray players are the Sony BD-SP1 and the LG-BH200. Thanks for the help. I sure hope I will be able to record on Blu-ray. I will post back my results just as soon as I can, but now my DSL is giving me problems. I check for updates on Nero 8 Ultra and let it updates and I find this out. I sure hope I get this working. Right now my Nero is in limbo. It took out the old version in anticipation of installing the new one, but is now hanging up in downloading for the new version. I have been waiting over four hours. I will post some results whenever I can try to get some. Thanks for the help. I also have the complete version of Nero 7 Ultra with Blu-ray burning. I guess that will not work? Well as I type the update files finally finshed downloading after five hours, so I will try out your suggestions and see if they help with my video stuttering problem.


Update: Still not working. I tried it again but do not know what to do after I re-muxed my entire .mpg file with videoredo and saved it as a .ts file and updated my Nero 8 Ultra to the latest a version. The video from the Blu-ray that resulted still froze every few seconds. The video input I am using in videoredo was originally a high defenition .tivo file that I cut the commercials out of before saving as an .mpg. What the heck do I need to do? Surely some are able to burn MPEG2 onto Blu-ray without it stuttering. I can make HD-DVD from these files very easily though I have no HD-DVD burner and have to burn it to regular DVD. I wanted to record to Blu-ray for its capacity like the original poster mentions in the original post of this thread. I could not find the correct information for this process in the twenty or so pages of this thread I tried looking? Could someone please help me a little? I will be very grateful. What do you do? Thank you.

Link to ad. (http://www.circuitcity.com:80/ccd/Search.do?searchType=user&go.y=0&oid=149808&keyword=tdk+blu-ray&c=1&go.x=0&searchSection=All) But, good luck find any in stock at your CC. I was able to snag 6 pieces a while ago, but no stores within 100 miles of me carry them anymore.

On another note, it appears Corel is getting ready to release DVD MovieFactory 7 (http://www.appreadiness.com/Lists/Logo/DispForm.aspx?ID=8252). MF6+ is great for mpeg2 HD DVD authoring, okay for AVCHD authoring, and kinda poor for Blu-ray authoring, at least for me, so looking forward to how they might improve the app w/7.

Brajesh,

Cheers for the link. I was able to snag the last 2 in the 3 local stores in WNY.

On a side note, there is a seller on the evil bay that sells boxes of 9 (something about postage rates) for about 70. If people are interested, then PM me and I'll look up his id (it's slipped off of my listing again).

Seggers.

I think this is my 400th post..... :)

Does anybody have Nero 8 with Blu-ray plugin to try the trick that I did with Ulead DMF6+ to author MPEG-2 as AVCHD on DVD5/9 with menus and without re-encoding.

My PDF guide for DMF6+ is attached to this post:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13065746#post13065746