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meli15
01-11-09, 02:16 AM
OK, I got one disc to work following the guide! Converted a BR with BD Rebuilder, pathced and burnt to DVD+R and it all worked!

But then I tried another full disc last night with BD Rebuilder, and after performing the patch steps and burning to DVD+R, the intro video plays, then I get the video playback error message I was getting before. This disc has a more complicated menu structure and where it appears to fail is when the loading bar/progress animation begins to play before the menu. As I am essentially taking a BR disc and patching it to be a AVCHD disc, I'm now wondering if its a video specification error and I just got lucky that the first disc and it conformed correctly to these specs.

Has anyone else tested BD Rebuilder? Any further ideas or things to try?I had the same thing happened to me.Reburn the disc again,some of the media at times play tricks.

vamovie
01-11-09, 07:32 AM
first of all this site is great
thanx to all who gives input to help other
sorry if i post it in wrong forum please help

now
i have a question
i intend to convert /rencode my 3 dvd movies into bluray
i got confused where how to choose bitrates
video is avc
res:1920x1080p
audio 5channels 384kbps
when it comes to bitrate should i choose constant bitrate quality or 2-pass bitrate or 2 pass quality
space is not an obligation i prefer quality
whats the difference between two and others like 3 pass quality?
please help
thanks in advance

Marshall Karp
01-11-09, 01:15 PM
Okay, here is the formula for burning a AVCHD red laser disc that my Panasonic BD-35 Blu-Ray player reads, displays, and shows. This was done with all freeware programs, except, the first step, but you could do it with freeware.

Step One

You need a separate AC3 (or AAC) audio file and a MKV video file. The first thing I did was use Sony Vegas to render my 14 minute video to Dolby Digital 5.1 AC3. This took just over a minute to render. An early test was rendering to stereo and this worked, too.

Also, an early test was converting the audio to AAC using super c, which worked, too, and is freeware. SUPER © .

Okay, you have the audio done, simple. Now, for the video.

Step Two

You need the video in MKV format. If you can render to that somehow, do so, Sony Vegas won't do that. So, I used Handbrake (just google it). I took the raw capture m2t file and

1. Opened (source) it in Handbrake
2. Set the destination output file to a name, directory, and mkv
3. Video tab - click decomb
4. Video tab - Deinterlace - slower
5. Video tab - Bit Rate 5000
6. Uncheck Advanced Encoding Setting
7. Audio tab - set to none, you already have your separate audio file, why take the time and the space? TSmuxer (below) won't read it from here, anyway.
8. Click start

My 14 minute video took four and a half hours to render. Now, I am all for a positive attitude and optimism, but I would not do a long render for a first time and hope to get lucky. I probably did about 10 trials with a minute clip until I got the process down.

Also, if someone wants to tweak these setting, please do. I just used the ones that i set for a Vimeo HD files.

Step Three

You have the mkv video file and the AC3 audio file. Now, go to this video at youtube, follow these directions, and finish this up:

YouTube - Burning Blu-Ray (.MKV) to DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0qbGy_4P0

You will need TSmuxer and Image Burn, both free downloads. Tsmuxer took the mkv and AC3 files and rendered the BDMV and Certificate directories in 24 seconds. Image burn took about 3 minutes to red laser burn the directories to my regular DVD.

Step Four

Put DVD in your blu-ray player and enjoy

rack04
01-12-09, 11:27 AM
Okay, here is the formula for burning a AVCHD red laser disc that my Panasonic BD-35 Blu-Ray player reads, displays, and shows....snip

How responsive is the ff/rew? The reason I ask is because on my BD-35 with tsMuxeR output the ff/rew is really unresponsive. There was a program created to fix this called fixclpi. From what I've read it does wonders on many standalone players, however my experience is that the BD-35 refuses to play discs that have been "fixed" with fixclpi.

Marshall Karp
01-12-09, 12:10 PM
I will have to check

Tom Roper
01-13-09, 09:10 PM
My gut feeling is that the BD35 doesn't like mpeg-2, or at least high bitrate mpeg-2.

I don't own the BD35, so I've only tried a couple things with it in the store, but it played 18mbps AVC with 5.1 dolby just great, from a legacy 4.7 dvd disk.

For that particular occasion, I used Sony DVD Architect, authored the BDMV project to folders, then used AVCHD-patcher and a hex editor per Alluringreality's guide.

Honorable mention...DVD Architect doesn't actually author blu-ray projects to folders, just directly burns disk or .iso image, but you can use SlySoft's Virtual CloneDrive to unpack the image file into folders, just copy them and apply the patches, then burn UDF 2.5 disk.

I was not able to test FF/RR/chapter skip because the remote control was not at hand.

stepmback
01-14-09, 03:56 PM
I have accumliated about 20 blu-rays and am interested in LEGALLY burning them to my HTPC. What is the best software out that will accomplish this? I do not want to loose any of the quality during the rip... ie no compression and decode and recode.

Also, will I be able to watch these movies on my PS3 if it is networked? Any good front end interface to organize the movies?

Someone recommended AnyDVD HD... will this meet my no compression/degraded pic quality requirement

seggers
01-14-09, 04:03 PM
I have accumliated about 20 blu-rays and am interested in LEGALLY burning them to my HTPC. What is the best software out that will accomplish this? I do not want to loose any of the quality during the rip... ie no compression and decode and recode.

Also, will I be able to watch these movies on my PS3 if it is networked? Any good front end interface to organize the movies?

Someone recommended AnyDVD HD... will this meet my no compression/degraded pic quality requirement

I don't think that you can legally copy a BD to a HTPC. The DRM is too strict on that.

There is a product called AnyDVD HD that'll allow you to copy stuff, but it has a habit of stripping out the protection, and is not legal in the US.

Seggers

bourke
01-15-09, 12:09 AM
I don't think that you can legally copy a BD to a HTPC. The DRM is too strict on that.

There is a product called AnyDVD HD that'll allow you to copy stuff, but it has a habit of stripping out the protection, and is not legal in the US.

SeggersAs you have hinted at in your post - it is legal depending on which country you are in at the time. In the US it is illegal, but here in Australia it is legal (as long as you are removing the region code).

maxleung
01-15-09, 01:19 AM
My gut feeling is that the BD35 doesn't like mpeg-2, or at least high bitrate mpeg-2.


That's funny - I can play mpeg-2 high-bitrate encoded Blu-rays just fine on my BD55.

Or did you mean something else? It doesn't make sense. :)

stepmback
01-15-09, 08:10 AM
As you have hinted at in your post - it is legal depending on which country you are in at the time. In the US it is illegal, but here in Australia it is legal (as long as you are removing the region code).

There is no compression? No loss in quality? I looked at the AnyDVD HD website. Theoretically what software would be needed to accomplish this? Just the AnyDVD HD product or do I need any of their othre products? If so which ones?

Tom Roper
01-16-09, 12:47 AM
That's funny - I can play mpeg-2 high-bitrate encoded Blu-rays just fine on my BD55.

Or did you mean something else? It doesn't make sense. :)

I mean 25mbps 1920x1080 mpeg-2 authored as a BDMV disk but burned on DVD4.7 media stutters on the BD35. Substituting 18mbps AVC on the same disk and no more problem, hence the conclusion.

maxleung
01-16-09, 03:57 PM
Ah I see. I guess for DVD the drive is limited to 20 mbit/sec, as per DVD x2 specs?

plee
01-16-09, 04:58 PM
Ah I see. I guess for DVD the drive is limited to 20 mbit/sec, as per DVD x2 specs?

I wouldn't even go that high, I would stay around 10mbps for DVD media...

MozartMan
01-16-09, 05:13 PM
Ah I see. I guess for DVD the drive is limited to 20 mbit/sec, as per DVD x2 specs?

DVD-Video discs have a raw bitrate of 11.08 Mbit/s, with a 1.0 Mbit/s overhead, leaving a payload bitrate of 10.08 Mbit/s. Of this, up to 3.36 megabits can be used for subtitles and a maximum of 9.80 megabits can be split amongst audio and video. In the case of multiple angles the data is stored interleaved, and so there's a bitrate penalty leading to a max bitrate of 8Mbit/s per angle to compensate for additional seek time. This limit is not cumulative, so each additional angle can still have up to 8Mbit/s of bitrate available.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-Video

maxleung
01-16-09, 05:55 PM
I was talking about the Panasonic's DVD drive - if it can play 18 mbps AVC video than it is clearly running at double the spec's bitrate. :)

MozartMan
01-16-09, 09:19 PM
I was talking about the Panasonic's DVD drive - if it can play 18 mbps AVC video than it is clearly running at double the spec's bitrate. :)

It's possible.

Tom Roper
01-16-09, 09:35 PM
I was talking about the Panasonic's DVD drive - if it can play 18 mbps AVC video than it is clearly running at double the spec's bitrate. :)

I agree. The Sony BDSP-350 has the same stuttering problem with 25mbps mpeg-2 on DVD4.7, and when substituted with 18mbps AVC h.264 plays fine.

So I don't really know if the bitrate causes the stuttering, or like the BD35 it just doesn't like high bitrate mpeg-2.

I'm curious how high I can go on the bitrate with AVC. On the PS3, neither mpeg-2 nor AVC causes a problem at 25mbps from DVD4.7. It even handles 50mbps peaks from AVC without a hint of strain. So I'm very curious where the bottleneck is. Neither can I find any reason to go higher than 25mbps average bitrate with AVC, it's just perfect clarity.

yd8552
01-17-09, 09:15 AM
Dear all,
I have some m2tS files on my hard drive and trying to burn on DVD9 and play on my panasonic BD35k. I am new to this, and here are my problems.
1. directly use tsmuxerGUI to creat blue-ray disc following instruction.
2. output folder has two folders, one is BDMV, the other is certificate. I also found another file name as the folder name, end with .meta file, any idea?
3. 1st try using Nero_Portable_8.3.2.1b_MultiLang 4x buring DVD+R DL (UPF2.5 format), only burned BDMV folder, no success. BD player can recganize it is AVCHD and DVD+R DL, but stop right there, no any error code.
4. 2nd try using Nero_Portable_8.3.2.1b_MultiLang 2.4x buring DVD+R DL, (UPF2.5 format), included both BDMV and certificate folder (it is empty though), no success, same as 1st.
5. use AVCHD-Patcher_1[1].05 patch index.bdmv file, then using Nero_Portable_8.3.2.1b_MultiLang 4x buring DVD+R DL, (UPF2.5 format), included both BDMV and certificate folder (it is empty though), no success. the BD player says "unsupport" then stop.
what do you think the problems are?
I have tried 3 DVD-9 with no success, please help me.
thanks,
Joe

Foxbat121
01-17-09, 09:26 AM
This article explains it all:http://www.elurauser.com/articles/avchd_to_bluray.jsp

What you try to create is not really AVCHD. You need to follow the article to see how you can make yours disc to follow AVCHD standard, not BD on DVD which is what you were doing.

Hef
01-17-09, 11:16 AM
That links doesn't work currently. You could try BD-Rebuilder and use it in combination with Image Burn (free). People have had success with movie only BD-9.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

alluringreality
01-17-09, 12:00 PM
what do you think the problems are?
I have tried 3 DVD-9 with no success

Since I don't know where your m2ts files come from I really can't give a very simple answer. Generally your player will play an AVCHD compatible disk created by tsMuxer's "Blu-ray" option, but tsMuxer does not check for compatibility. If you just want to get a workable disk, then use a commercial authoring program (http://www.emedialive.com/articles/readarticle.aspx?articleid=11425#ixp) that will check for compatibility. It's possible that your audio or video isn't Blu-ray compatible and will need to be transcoded. You might also have to get down to a single audio stream for some commercial authoring programs to accept the m2ts (use tsMuxer for this). A commercial program that creates AVCHD and can import your video files will get you a disc that's playable disk on your player. A commercial program that can create HDMV will probably play on your player after AVCHD-Patcher and hex editing, if the bitrate does not much exceed 18mbps AVCHD specs.

As far as I know your player doesn't support Blu-ray on DVD media, so direct BD-Rebuilder files on DVD will not play on your player.

yd8552
01-17-09, 01:17 PM
As far as I know your player doesn't support Blu-ray on DVD media, so direct BD-Rebuilder files on DVD will not play on your player.[/QUOTE]

1. those m2ts files I got are playble on my HTPC.
2. checked burned DVD-9 can be played on my BDP-1500, but has some problems for the sound. the source files are H.264 coded, 1920x1080, frame rate 24.
3. just checked my BD35's firmware, it is 1.5, most recent one. could it be blocked for AVCHD review on BD35 like PS3 did for its most recent FW update?

alluringreality
01-17-09, 02:55 PM
1. those m2ts files I got are playble on my HTPC.
2. checked burned DVD-9 can be played on my BDP-1500, but has some problems for the sound. the source files are H.264 coded, 1920x1080, frame rate 24.
3. just checked my BD35's firmware, it is 1.5, most recent one.

If it's 1920x1080 AVC at 24p then either the audio or video isn't Blu-ray compatible, or else the bit-rate is too high for AVCHD. From what you've posted so far those seem the most likely causes of the tsMuxer disk refusing to play. Trying to author 24p with unknown compatibility of the video and audio is not a very easy task if this is the first AVCHD you've tried to create.

If you just want a playable disk, then download the VideoStudio trial and create an AVCHD that way. The program will have to transcode your video, but you would get a disc that would play on your player. If you absolutely want to try to author with 24p video, then there are only two consumer programs I know of to check for video compatibility.

1) I know TotalMedia Extreme will accept your video type in a .ts container, and it will pass the video if it's Blu-ray compliant without transcoding. The program also allows you to output to AVCHD, so it should check if your bit-rate is within spec. The only major issue with the program is that it transcodes to 2-channel audio, but still this is the only program I know of that will fully check your video for AVCHD compatibility while remaining 24p. At one time there was a trial for TotalMedia, but I couldn't find it on their website the last time I was going to recommend the software.

2) I know Adobe Encore can also accept .264 24p video (demux using tsMuxer) and it will pass the video without transcoding if the video is Blu-ray compliant. Encore doesn't do AVCHD, so it will not check the bit-rate item. Another issue with Encore is that it's rather expensive unless you can get a student copy, and Adobe doesn't offer a trial to see the chapter bug I ran into on my very first project. Again if Encore would pass the video then you would know that it's at least Blu-ray compliant, but the bitrate still might be an issue.

Really what you're trying to do is at least somewhat complex, no matter what way you go. There really isn't a free or reasonably-expensive commercial way to check for 24p AVCHD compatibility with multi-channel audio. You could use the video from the TotalMedia output and combine it with the multi-channel audio output from VideoStudio using tsMuxer, but that's the cheapest way I can think to check both the video and audio for AVCHD compatibility while staying 24p (might run into audio sync issues). If you haven't done AVCHD compatible disks before, then it's probably easiest to just use VideoStudio to create an AVCHD, let the video transcode, and forget 24p. For what it's worth I've still never read anything that indicates the BD35 player correctly handles 24p AVCHD, so it's probably easiest to just use VideoStudio to create an AVCHD. Encore creates HDMV so you would have to use AVCHD-Patcher and change to INDEX0100 and MOBJ0100 for AVCHD playback.

could it be blocked for AVCHD review on BD35 like PS3 did for its most recent FW update?

Say what? If the PS3 had dropped AVCHD on DVD media compatibility I figured I would have ran across that one. Like I said, as far as I know your player supports AVCHD, so authoring an AVCHD compatible disk would be my suggestion. If you go from HDMV with AVCHD-Patcher you have to hex edit the files for the BD35 player to work. Anyway, I can't expect that any player advertised as supporting AVCHD would drop AVCHD support.

mtallent
01-18-09, 02:38 PM
Dear all,
I have some m2tS files on my hard drive and trying to burn on DVD9 and play on my panasonic BD35k. I am new to this, and here are my problems.
1. directly use tsmuxerGUI to creat blue-ray disc following instruction.
2. output folder has two folders, one is BDMV, the other is certificate. I also found another file name as the folder name, end with .meta file, any idea?

Joe

Load the original m2ts file into tsMuxeR and look for the info on the video stream in the window. If the profile is greater than 4.1 like 5 or 5.1 then it will not play on any blu-ray player, but it will play on the computer. The only solution is to re-encode the video to profile 4 or 4.1

Mike T

plee
01-20-09, 01:50 PM
I agree. The Sony BDSP-350 has the same stuttering problem with 25mbps mpeg-2 on DVD4.7, and when substituted with 18mbps AVC h.264 plays fine.

So I don't really know if the bitrate causes the stuttering, or like the BD35 it just doesn't like high bitrate mpeg-2.

I'm curious how high I can go on the bitrate with AVC. On the PS3, neither mpeg-2 nor AVC causes a problem at 25mbps from DVD4.7. It even handles 50mbps peaks from AVC without a hint of strain. So I'm very curious where the bottleneck is. Neither can I find any reason to go higher than 25mbps average bitrate with AVC, it's just perfect clarity.

I think it's a combination hardware and software issue, most players don't have the cpu power of the PS3 so will probably handle just about anything you can throw at it. Then, you have standalone players that probably have a single core cpu with a little ram and a slow drive mech. (to keep cost at a min.) that start stuttering at 25mbps...

So if you want to share the disc you create, you might have stay about 10mbps or below just to be on the safe side but if it's for your own personal viewing then use the max. bitrate your player can handle :)

Hef
01-22-09, 09:07 AM
This person got a BD-9 movie only to play in their Panny BD35 ......


http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1239509&postcount=24

Tom Roper
01-22-09, 11:19 AM
The BD35 I tried at the retailer played the 18mbps AVC BD-9 just fine, YMMV.

Regarding the PS3 firmware update 2.60...all clear.

Tom Roper
01-22-09, 11:44 AM
Hef, BD-9 playback on the BD35 is old news to me since Alluringreality put up his guide. You have to hexedit index.bdmv and movieobj.bdmv as he explains.

BUT...The bigger news from that thread you linked is getting the Samsung 1500 and 2500 working! (Those I had problem with.)

All...just another mention, PS3 firmware 2.60 all clear. No problem with BD-5, BD-9, AVC, mpeg-2, menus, 24p...all working as before.

Marshall Karp
01-22-09, 03:56 PM
Here's what I did in #1756

Okay, here is the formula for burning a AVCHD red laser disc that my Panasonic BD-35 Blu-Ray player reads, displays, and shows. This was done with all freeware programs, except, the first step, but you could do it with freeware.

Step One

You need a separate AC3 (or AAC) audio file and a MKV video file. The first thing I did was use Sony Vegas to render my 14 minute video to Dolby Digital 5.1 AC3. This took just over a minute to render. An early test was rendering to stereo and this worked, too.

Also, an early test was converting the audio to AAC using super c, which worked, too, and is freeware. SUPER © .

Okay, you have the audio done, simple. Now, for the video.

Step Two

You need the video in MKV format. If you can render to that somehow, do so, Sony Vegas won't do that. So, I used Handbrake (just google it). I took the raw capture m2t file and

1. Opened (source) it in Handbrake
2. Set the destination output file to a name, directory, and mkv
3. Video tab - click decomb
4. Video tab - Deinterlace - slower
5. Video tab - Bit Rate 5000
6. Uncheck Advanced Encoding Setting
7. Audio tab - set to none, you already have your separate audio file, why take the time and the space? TSmuxer (below) won't read it from here, anyway.
8. Click start

My 14 minute video took four and a half hours to render. Now, I am all for a positive attitude and optimism, but I would not do a long render for a first time and hope to get lucky. I probably did about 10 trials with a minute clip until I got the process down.

Also, if someone wants to tweak these setting, please do. I just used the ones that i set for a Vimeo HD files.

Step Three

You have the mkv video file and the AC3 audio file. Now, go to this video at youtube, follow these directions, and finish this up:

YouTube - Burning Blu-Ray (.MKV) to DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho0qbGy_4P0

You will need TSmuxer and Image Burn, both free downloads. Tsmuxer took the mkv and AC3 files and rendered the BDMV and Certificate directories in 24 seconds. Image burn took about 3 minutes to red laser burn the directories to my regular DVD.

Step Four

Put DVD in your blu-ray player and enjoy

freshane
01-22-09, 11:42 PM
I am just getting into backing up blu-rays.. Is there a list of which movies are 25GB and under and which are 50GB and under?? Where would be the cheapest place to get blank discs in Canada?? So far I have seen them for $11 each for Maxell 25GB BD-R. Thanks

seggers
01-23-09, 08:34 AM
I am just getting into backing up blu-rays.. Is there a list of which movies are 25GB and under and which are 50GB and under?? Where would be the cheapest place to get blank discs in Canada?? So far I have seen them for $11 each for Maxell 25GB BD-R. Thanks

http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php

Seggers

freshane
01-23-09, 09:44 AM
Perfect, thanks seggers!

Where would be the cheapest place to get BD-R discs and which name brand is everyone using??

I have an LG GGW-H20L Burner.

seggers
01-23-09, 09:47 AM
Perfect, thanks seggers!

Where would be the cheapest place to get BD-R discs and which name brand is everyone using??

I have an LG GGW-H20L Burner.

For my money, I go through eBay for mine. I tend to search for blu ray blanks and then go pick out whatever it is that I'm after. I tend to go for the multipacks that don't have cases as I don't need them.

I have one of the LG BD burners (actually, that one sounds familiar), along with a 25 and 50Gb RE. Those 10$ coasters hurt after a while....

Seggers

vamovie
01-23-09, 11:29 AM
Fry's electronics usually had them
15pcak spindle of memorex for 64.99
that comes out 69.74 something not bad
eachdisc comes under 3.65

DJ Matt
01-24-09, 06:39 AM
I am having some issues burning the discs. The tsmuxer process goes smoothly, but whenever I try and burn the disc using ImgBurn it seems like I can never get past 50%. I have been able to burn dual layer DVD's as data discs, movies, etc successfully, but lately its been failing. I have been getting I/0 errors and don't know how to fix them. Here is the most recent error in the link below. Its a pic of the error. Can anyone tell me how I could resolve this issue? Thanks!

http://i43.tinypic.com/11kv8r6.jpg

vamovie
01-24-09, 06:49 AM
if u are running more than program when using imgburn
that will happen
or
try to update ur drives and firmware
or
try imgburn support website they have all kinds of answers for these kinds of stuff

Jim Gilliland
01-24-09, 07:53 AM
Where would be the cheapest place to get BD-R discs and which name brand is everyone using??
If you act quickly, there is a "group buy" going on for BD blanks:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/cdfreaks-special-event-blu-ray-media-discount-sale-group-order-262578/

DJ Matt
01-24-09, 06:33 PM
if u are running more than program when using imgburn
that will happen
or
try to update ur drives and firmware
or
try imgburn support website they have all kinds of answers for these kinds of stuff
I believe ImgBurn was the only program running at the time. I turned off my antivirus even when trying to burn. For some reason Nero isn't working either. I got some sessation fix error (spelling?). It will get to 100% in Nero and write high compatibility DVD borders successfully, but then shortly after it says the burn fails. I am absolutely clueless on why this is happening. I never had a problem before. I even updated the drivers for my DVD burner.

Mouw
01-24-09, 09:27 PM
eachdisc comes under 3.65
where did u go to school??
$69.74 / 15 = $4.6493333

i too been buying Memorex BD-R x4 BluRay Stacks of 15
at Fry's == on sale $60 / New Years $40 / reg price $90
burned thru almost 30 now... only 1 coaster so far

can never get past 50% burn dual layer DVD's getting I/0 errors--it says the burn fails. I am absolutely clueless on why this is happening. I never had a problem before. I even updated the drivers for my DVD burner.
A- Buy another DVD burner (they DO wear out)
had same problem--- switched to BackUp burner == OK
Old Samsung DL DVD burner just would not BURN--but it still READS

NewEgg has these: (do search on Item#)

LG Black 22X DVD Burner - Model GH22NS30 SATA/OEM - item# N82E16827136152 $24.99 FREE SHIPPING

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner - Model SH-S223F SATA/OEM Item# N82E16827151171 $25.99 FREE SHIPPING

freshane
01-24-09, 09:52 PM
I think I'll have to jump on that! Thanks for the heads up. Which are better, tdk or sony??

Mouw.. were those 25gb or 50gb??

Most of the movies are 50gb now, hopefully they will come down in price

vamovie
01-24-09, 11:00 PM
Thanx mouw
:)
in fry's electronics

Mouw
01-25-09, 12:58 AM
Mouw.. were those 25gb or 50gb?? Most of the movies are 50gb now
15-pack Memorex 4x 25GB BD-R (http://shop1.frys.com/ShopCartServlet?purchase=5678681)
i just watch the Fry's weekly ads--pick'em up on SALE

RE: 50gb movies
RipBot264 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127611) will re-Encode/Compress Movie-Only == ie 25-45 fits on BD-R (25g)
and smaller movies 12-22g fit on BD9 (DL DVD 8.5g)
BD ReBuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) is supposed to Encode/Compress entire BD -- w/menus/extras/etc

both the GUIs have x264/TsMuxeR/ffdshow/AviSynth/etc (under the Hood)
i have only USED the RipBot264 to date (works like a charm)
but for Concert BDs larger than 25g--- BD ReBuilder may be the ticket

DJ Matt
01-25-09, 01:54 AM
A- Buy another DVD burner (they DO wear out)
had same problem--- switched to BackUp burner == OK
Old Samsung DL DVD burner just would not BURN--but it still READS

NewEgg has these: (do search on Item#)

LG Black 22X DVD Burner - Model GH22NS30 SATA/OEM - item# N82E16827136152 $24.99 FREE SHIPPING

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner - Model SH-S223F SATA/OEM Item# N82E16827151171 $25.99 FREE SHIPPING
Yeah, I was thinking of just buying a new burner. I have a laptop so I hope those are external drives and also dual layer. I will definitely check them out and see.

freshane
01-25-09, 02:13 AM
15-pack Memorex 4x 25GB BD-R (http://shop1.frys.com/ShopCartServlet?purchase=5678681)
i just watch the Fry's weekly ads--pick'em up on SALE

RE: 50gb movies
RipBot264 (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127611) will re-Encode/Compress Movie-Only == ie 25-45 fits on BD-R (25g)
and smaller movies 12-22g fit on BD9 (DL DVD 8.5g)
BD ReBuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) is supposed to Encode/Compress entire BD -- w/menus/extras/etc

both the GUIs have x264/TsMuxeR/ffdshow/AviSynth/etc (under the Hood)
i have only USED the RipBot264 to date (works like a charm)
but for Concert BDs larger than 25g--- BD ReBuilder may be the ticket


I am just getting into blu-ray so I'm still a noob. Will I need to update my firmware for my LG GGW-H20L burner?? Currently I have YL03, to update firmware do you just update the driver??

I purchased AnyDVD HD, is this all I will need??

That ripbot264 you mentioned, does it effect the quality?? I used to use dvdshrink and found that it would do this.

Mouw
01-25-09, 03:07 PM
If you act quickly, there is a "group buy" going on for BD blanks:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/cdfreaks-special-event-blu-ray-media-discount-sale-group-order-262578/

not bad $$ but i think prices will really come down 2009
Memorex BD-R x4 have been GOOD -> me

vamovie
01-25-09, 03:10 PM
I am just getting into blu-ray so I'm still a noob. Will I need to update my firmware for my LG GGW-H20L burner?? Currently I have YL03, to update firmware do you just update the driver??

I purchased AnyDVD HD, is this all I will need??

That ripbot264 you mentioned, does it effect the quality?? I used to use dvdshrink and found that it would do this.

the firmware is YL05 u need to update it

Mouw
01-25-09, 03:23 PM
update my firmware LG GGW-H20L
burner?? Currently YL03
I purchased AnyDVD HD, is this all I will need??
ripbot264, does it effect the quality??

1- normally DVD FirmWare upgrades only necessary=when needed (fails-doesn't recognize NEW media)
LG GGW-H20L FirmWare (http://www.lge.com/support/software.jsp) looks like they have YL04/05 now (i have LG too--not sure what FW)

2- AnyDVD-HD is KEY-- RipBot will read directly from BD - or Rip like i do -> C:\Movies

3- Theoretically Compression diminishes PQ--however BackUp only the MOVIE w/1-sound track = smaller mt2s
i set 1080/24 - AC3 5.1 (core) - NO subs - go for highest Bit/Rate possible - x264 does a wonderful job
my Playback = Sony BDP-S350 -> Infocus SP7210 -> 106in screen -> 5.1 surround speakers/DD 5.1 HeadPhones
PQ = real close to Original / very hard to distinguish without doing A/B test

RipBot264 needs 3 other programs -> RipBot264v1.12.0 Setup (http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b6798150d298759cab1eab3e9fa335cabefb3d8f1b78046a) (AviSynth /FFdshow/Haali Media Splitter)

DJ Matt
01-25-09, 06:49 PM
Hopefully Blu-ray burners come down in price this year. I definitely would like to buy one. I told my self 6 months ago that I would wait 1-2 years though. The burners are not priced ridiculously high anymore, but the disc prices are quite a bit (especially 50GB discs). I would hate to compress a Blu-ray movie. Are all Blu-ray burners capable of burning dual layer 50GB discs or just some of them?

ericuf
01-26-09, 02:15 PM
I'm fairly new to all of this ---> I've been using dvd shrink to rip movies, and want to know if there's soemthing similar for blu ray, so that when I burn a blu ray it will play the exact same was as the original?

vamovie
01-27-09, 04:26 PM
Hopefully Blu-ray burners come down in price this year. I definitely would like to buy one. I told my self 6 months ago that I would wait 1-2 years though. The burners are not priced ridiculously high anymore, but the disc prices are quite a bit (especially 50GB discs). I would hate to compress a Blu-ray movie. Are all Blu-ray burners capable of burning dual layer 50GB discs or just some of them?

hey now a days bluray are also getting cheap
25gb discs are under 3.50 apiece
since u r in naperville IL check frys electronics in downersgrove IL
usually thats where i got my bd-r's(most movies are under 25gb when we eliminate the extras)
50gb cd freaks got group buy 50gb comes under9.62

DJ Matt
01-27-09, 06:04 PM
hey now a days bluray are also getting cheap
25gb discs are under 3.50 apiece
since u r in naperville IL check frys electronics in downersgrove IL
usually thats where i got my bd-r's(most movies are under 25gb when we eliminate the extras)
50gb cd freaks got group buy 50gb comes under9.62
25 GB discs would do just fine then. All I would care about is burning just the movie. I could careless about all the extras and special features. $3.50 a piece isn't bad. I'm sure you can get them cheap on Amazon too. I just need to buy a burner. I will probably get one later this year. I don't have a computer or laptop that would be able to play the discs (or an HD screen). Would putting a Blu-ray burner in a 5-6 year old PC work if I just wanted to use it to burn Blu-rays?

vamovie
01-27-09, 07:50 PM
Its not how old is the computer (logically yes)
but atleast you need
p4 core2 duo min
2gb ram with good graphic cards

vamovie
01-27-09, 07:51 PM
actually i can build a pc with in $500.00 range with out burner

DJ Matt
01-27-09, 08:35 PM
I never use the PC. The family uses it. I mainly use my laptop, but it has 2 GB of ram for sure I think. Not sure about pentium 4 core 2. If it doesn't meet those qualifications then you won't be able to burn Blu-ray discs?

vamovie
01-27-09, 09:02 PM
the bestway is
there an 2mb software
which is called cybeylink bd advisor
u can install and ranon ur laptop it will tell u exactly if its comptable or not
for laptops u can upgrade harddrive and ram but not graphic card
good luck

MRMOTA
01-28-09, 09:30 PM
Thanks

Pepster returns
02-01-09, 03:20 AM
Yeah, I was thinking of just buying a new burner. I have a laptop so I hope those are external drives and also dual layer. I will definitely check them out and see.

I bought the LG GGW-H20L (PC internal Blu-Ray burner) a few weeks ago, and put it in an external WELLAND/Sunbright 5.25" housing
http://www.allneeds.com.au/prod705.htm

The LG is SATA, and this housing converts it to eSATA + USB. I only use the USB - works fine, burns DVDs from my Laptop @ 16x.

BTW: forget using BD-RE - takes 1hour just to deep erase a BD-RE SL, plus another hour to burn a 22G AVCHD !

BD-R works fine.

I the housing for $70AUD a month ago from GETRIGHT COMPUTERS http://www.getright.com.au/v2006ver1/ in Adelaide, Australia (even though they do not have it listed on their web site.

Can also be found at;
ebay http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Welland-Luxury-External-5-25-SATA-to-eSATA-USB-2-0-E_W0QQitemZ190283637112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Computers_Stora ge_Accessories?hash=item190283637112&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318

and Allneeds http://www.allneeds.com.au/prod705.htm

Burns BD-R SL via USB just fine. I haven't tried BD-R DL yet.

whiskersland
02-07-09, 08:30 AM
Hi,

I have been using Toast 8 to burn Blu-ray ISOs to single layer BD-Rs for nearly 2 years now. I have used Sony, TDK, Panasonic and other media with no issues. In fact I never had any issues at all. I just got some Traxdata inkjet printable BD-R 25 media and hit my first snag. It looks like they aren't compatible. Toast gives a buffer error and fails to write. Unfortunately I bought a lot of these BD-Rs. I really didn't know there were compatibility issues, (a la DVD-R in the 90's), and I had hoped my LG GBW-H10N would last me a bit longer.

I have the GBW-H10N burner in an intel Mac Pro and the firmware is GL02. I have found firmware upgrades but only for PC. I would be very grateful if anyone can tell me if I can in fact upgrade the firmware, (maybe using Boot camp), and if I do will these Traxdata discs be usable with my set-up (GBW-H10N, Toast 8, Intel Mac Pro)?

The vender offers me Moser Baer BD-R 25s as a replacement. Will I have the same issues with those? I can't find info or compatibility tables for them.

Thanks very much for any help. Harold.

Mouw
02-07-09, 04:33 PM
I have the GBW-H10N burner in an intel Mac Pro and the firmware is GL02. I have found firmware upgrades but only for PC

YES-- looks like there is a GL06 FW upgrade
newer FW recognizes NEWER medias
suggest u swap the LG into a PC (intel)
4 upGrade of the FW....

hey...just part of the FUN being on the Apple Fringe

whiskersland
02-08-09, 05:35 PM
Thanks Mouw. Jumping the hurdles to upgrade seems worthwhile in any case. I will have a go using Parallels or Bootcamp first before digging it out.

BTW Is there an up to date compatibility table of BD media vs BD hardware? It would seem like a good idea.

Gruson
02-10-09, 04:30 PM
Hi guys, I am new to BluRay ripping.

I own about 50 BDs and a Popcorn Hour 110.

I now want to rip my BDs and store them on my server to playback with my Popcorn.

I am going to buy a BD reader for my computer. The big question is, what is the easiet way to rip them?

I also use DVDShrink for DVDs.

I would like to keep the TrueHD tracks since I do use them a lot for playback.

Is there a guide hosted anywhere?

Thanks!

Jeff

vamovie
02-10-09, 06:36 PM
Hi guys, I am new to BluRay ripping.

I own about 50 BDs and a Popcorn Hour 110.

I now want to rip my BDs and store them on my server to playback with my Popcorn.

I am going to buy a BD reader for my computer. The big question is, what is the easiet way to rip them?

I also use DVDShrink for DVDs.

I would like to keep the TrueHD tracks since I do use them a lot for playback.

Is there a guide hosted anywhere?

Thanks!

Jeff

the best one is ...since u wanna keep true hd and all the stuff
anydvd hdis the best software
next bd-rebuilder this software shrinks like dvdshrink

whiskersland
02-11-09, 09:43 AM
I found a nice table for Traxdata BDs, and sadly my LG is not supported even with the latest firmware.

http://www.traxdata.com/media/Compatibility_Guides/June_2008/BD-R_Compatibility_with_BD_Drives.pdf


Does anyone has similar info about Moser Baer BD-R 25GB compatibility?

Thanks

seggers
02-20-09, 10:49 AM
Amazon has a gold box offer for Corel VideoStudio Pro X2.

Is this software any better than, say, Movie Factory 6+ HD add on pack?

Seggers

vamovie
02-20-09, 11:30 AM
I found a nice table for Traxdata BDs, and sadly my LG is not supported even with the latest firmware.

http://www.traxdata.com/media/Compatibility_Guides/June_2008/BD-R_Compatibility_with_BD_Drives.pdf


Does anyone has similar info about Moser Baer BD-R 25GB compatibility?

Thanks

ur lg is not supporting means...
it stops in the middle of the burning
or in the begining or just rejected to show the blank disc
whats exactly its doing
please be more specific

try imgburn it seems well comptable

lchiu7
02-20-09, 10:39 PM
Hi guys, I am new to BluRay ripping.

I own about 50 BDs and a Popcorn Hour 110.

I now want to rip my BDs and store them on my server to playback with my Popcorn.

I am going to buy a BD reader for my computer. The big question is, what is the easiet way to rip them?

I also use DVDShrink for DVDs.

I would like to keep the TrueHD tracks since I do use them a lot for playback.

Is there a guide hosted anywhere?

Thanks!

Jeff


All you wanted to know and more can be found here

http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=9

As note AnyDVD is probably the best option to handle the encryption on your discs. But if you don't want to spend the money on that, there are plenty of freeware tools that can an equally good job, albeit with more effort. Be prepared to invest time in this.

Also, did you want to just store the discs on the server or did you want to go further and compress the titles to save space. It's possible to compress a 20GB BD title down to about 4G with very little loss in PQ - up to you. If so then you will need to look at tools like x264, Handbrake or megui (which is a frontend for x264).

Finally there is a known bug in the Popcorn Hour A110 in that it will not playback a video stream with a TrueHD audio track unless there is also a standard AC3 there also (even if it's empty). This can be a trap for unwary players.

Have fun:D

Hef
02-21-09, 02:53 PM
If anyone is curious, this thread discusses and shows screen shots of BDs uncompressed vs BD9 and BD5 via BD-Rebuilder. I'm impressed with the quality retention ... post #8 has a good pic comparsion.


http://club.cdfreaks.com/f142/bd-rebuilder-vs-original-blu-ray-movie-hi-res-pics-262571/

dtrell
02-26-09, 05:42 PM
can anyone here tell me the status of tsmuxer? when it creates a bluray folder set, i have read that it still cannot handle HD audio formats and downgrades everything to AC3, yet the release notes say the truehd problem has been fixed, and supposedly it can handle DTS MA ok. can anyone answer this?

dtrell
02-26-09, 05:50 PM
Fry's electronics usually had them
15pcak spindle of memorex for 64.99
that comes out 69.74 something not bad
eachdisc comes under 3.65

i think you better check your math. 15 pack for 65 dollars is 4.33 apiece. with tax thats about 450 apiece

shop4tech.com has blaze discs for as low as 450 each with free shipping and free cases. you can also use coupon code of gg10 for 10% off

lchiu7
02-26-09, 08:47 PM
can anyone here tell me the status of tsmuxer? when it creates a bluray folder set, i have read that it still cannot handle HD audio formats and downgrades everything to AC3, yet the release notes say the truehd problem has been fixed, and supposedly it can handle DTS MA ok. can anyone answer this?

Not sure about BD discs but for AVCHD the current version of tsmuxer was always able to create content that included DTS HD Master and would play fine on the PS3.

As of about a week ago a new beta of tsmuxer was released which has fixed the TrueHD problem. I have confirmed this by backing up my copy of Eraser BD, running tsmuxer on it to remove tracks apart from the video and the TrueHD track and outputting a m2ts file. I then input that to multiAVCHD which created a AVCHD folder containing a bunch of 4G MTs files. When copied onto a USB drive formatted FAT32 the PS3 played this content with TrueHD audio. I suspect a similarly formatted folder (smaller perhaps) burnt to a DB would also work okay since the playback process is the same.

Get the latest beta from ftp://213.221.6.90/txMuxer/

You can use the GUI from the previous version if you're not comfortable with CLI

Gary Murrell
02-28-09, 12:36 PM
whats the cheapest DL -R is running?

looks like 11$ from Japan

-Gary

Pepster returns
03-02-09, 01:54 PM
Not sure about BD discs but for AVCHD the current version of tsmuxer was always able to create content that included DTS HD Master and would play fine on the PS3.

As of about a week ago a new beta of tsmuxer was released which has fixed the TrueHD problem. I have confirmed this by backing up my copy of Eraser BD, running tsmuxer on it to remove tracks apart from the video and the TrueHD track and outputting a m2ts file. I then input that to multiAVCHD which created a AVCHD folder containing a bunch of 4G MTs files. When copied onto a USB drive formatted FAT32 the PS3 played this content with TrueHD audio. I suspect a similarly formatted folder (smaller perhaps) burnt to a DB would also work okay since the playback process is the same.

Get the latest beta from ftp://213.221.6.90/txMuxer/

You can use the GUI from the previous version if you're not comfortable with CLI

Download the GUI version and CLI version of the latest beta tsMuxeR_1.8.19b zipped together here:
http://www.videohelp.com/download/tsMuxeR_1.8.19b.zip

lchiu7
03-02-09, 01:59 PM
Download the GUI version and CLI version of the latest beta tsMuxeR_1.8.19b zipped together here:
http://www.videohelp.com/download/tsMuxeR_1.8.19b.zip
Hmm I see I had a typo in the URL stated above - problem with using two different computers!=:confused:

ace no1
03-08-09, 08:02 PM
Why does my 300 meg movie file take up 3 gig of space on my
blu ray disc when I want to burn it?

vamovie
03-09-09, 10:43 AM
Why does my 300 meg movie file take up 3 gig of space on my
blu ray disc when I want to burn it?

300Meg........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry u have to repeat the question abit more specifically

seggers
03-09-09, 10:46 AM
300Meg........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry u have to repeat the question abit more specifically

I think what he's saying is why does a 300Mb file turn into a 3Gb file (about 10 times the size) when it is burnt to a BD.

One thing I'd like to know is how does he get from the soruce file to the destination file. Is it being re-encoded, and if so by what software.

Seggers

ace no1
03-10-09, 02:24 AM
I use power director and when i set up a file to burn to blu ray
the file takes up more space on disc then it seems it should.

alluringreality
03-15-09, 06:29 PM
Unless the software is recoding the video or audio, it should be about the same size as the source files. In the example of 300mb to 3gig, the program is recoding things. You'll probably either need to find a file type that the program will pass or use different authoring software to maintain file size.

justin0324
03-17-09, 11:47 PM
I’m a Windows 7 beta tester, and if you’re not a beta tester as well, I’ll just let you know that they get so many feedback requests that if you have sample images or videos to backup and support your feedback reports for bugs and suggestions, they get a lot more attention.

Anyway, it wasn’t until recently that I got a Blu Ray burner, and if you didn’t already know, Windows 7 has native support for .m2ts files used in Blu Ray movie discs as well as the videos that many video cameras generate.

However, the one problem is that Windows 7 support is limited to H.264/Standard MPEG-4 ISO support, and it will not playback .m2ts files that have VC-1 video streams instead.

So, I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any good Blu Ray DVD movie creation/editing programs and/or camcorder creation/editing programs that allow you to create .m2ts files and choose your video stream and codec. I’d like to take a home movie I’ve got, make a VC-1 .m2ts file as an example for Microsoft, and upload it with a feedback report about this issue with Windows 7 not supporting VC-1 .m2ts files, so if anyone knows any great video creation/editing programs that let you create/edit .m2ts files and choose the codec, please let me know.

Also, any “alternative” methods you’ve got for taking a home video and generating a VC-1 .m2ts file would also be just as great... I just want an example to upload to MS about this bug. Thanks!

uzun
03-19-09, 10:24 PM
Is there some way for me to take a video short, create a Blu-Ray compatible disc using Nero or some similar BD authoring program, then burn the data onto a NORMAL DVD+R, and have it playback as High Definition on most if not all BluRay Players?

I have some video shorts I made in HD that I want to put on a normal DVD+R that most BluRay Players would play. Can someone let me know how to do that?

For the PS3 all I have to do is put the .mpeg files on a disc either in the root directory or a directory called VIDEO off the root and it works fine.

Is there something similar I can do that a regular BD player would recognize?

uzun
03-20-09, 02:08 AM
I guess AVCHD discs serve this purpose. Do all the newer BluRay Players play AVCHD discs?

Mouw
03-21-09, 02:24 AM
video short, create a Blu-Ray compatible disc burn data to a NORMAL DVD+R, playback as High Definition all BluRay Players?

u don't specify input video file type...
but tsMuxeR will DeMux-ReMux -> BluRay Form
burnable -> BD5/9 (DVD+R & DL) or BD-R (25gig)
burn using UDF 2.50 file system

smartLabs tsMuxeR: Transport Stream muxer (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104)

alluringreality
03-22-09, 06:50 PM
The procedure Mouw listed creates a sort of bastard AVCHD/Blu-ray file structure that most current players will play. I think BD-Rebuilder took the tsMuxer/TsRemux files, so you can probably look at the movie only section from http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674 to see a list of players that the files will play on and if any changes need to be made. For example, you might need to delete the AUXDATA folder for the disc to play on the newer Samsungs with current firmware. The Sony players will also play the tsMuxer output, but the Denon listed in the link might not because of the AVCHD info in the index.bdmv file.

lchiu7
03-22-09, 07:04 PM
From my experiences, you have to be careful with bit rates if you create AVCHD structures on DVD's. If the bit rate is too high (HD rates) then the drive cannot transfer data fast enough and you get stuttering. At least this is what I experienced on my PS3. I had to re-encode the video to a lower bit rate to play smoothly and sometimes go from 1080p to 720p.

I routinely create AVCHD structures on a USB drive to play on my PS3 and it works just fine, with TrueHD or DTS HD Master audio. But of course a USB2 drive is way faster than a DVD.

Not sure if the other standalone players have USB ports that allow this.

mr.s4ndm4n
03-24-09, 03:38 PM
I'm trying to convert an .mkv file into a blu-ray iso image so that 'My Movies' will read it as such as well as PowerDVD 9???

jayhawk11
03-24-09, 03:59 PM
Is that a question?

mr.s4ndm4n
03-24-09, 04:27 PM
lol, sorry, i was in a rush and didn't even finish....

Yeah, how do i do this?? I have AnyDVD HD if that helps?

LilGator
03-24-09, 04:59 PM
I'm guessing you could open with TSMuxer, which would demux the MKV into it's video and audio streams, mux it into .m2ts and generate a Blu-ray disc structure.

Creating an ISO from the BD file structure would then be easy with IMGBurn.

EDIT: After looking, yes, that's exactly how you could do it. Assuming your MKV uses standard BD compatible codecs. IMGBurn would need the BDMV & CERTIFICATE folders at the root, UDF 2.50 and the Recurse Directories option when generating the ISO.

AnyDVD HD would help if you had the original Blu-ray disk and a BD drive. In that case you could create an ISO straight from the disc and preserve video bitrate and HD audio. (I'm guessing you have a ~10GB 1080p rip with DTS 1.5mbps recoded or core audio).

new04quest
03-27-09, 02:17 PM
What is the latest and greatest blu-ray burning software? I am leaning toward Nero 8 Ultimate and Power2Go.

LPT
03-28-09, 11:40 AM
Has anyone managed to integrate POWER DVD ULTRA 9 into VMC yet and get it to work if so,
Help!

LPT

Pepster returns
03-30-09, 08:01 AM
What is the latest and greatest blu-ray burning software? I am leaning toward Nero 8 Ultimate and Power2Go.

IMGBURN

and it is free.

Remember to burn in UDF 2.5 format.

Pepster returns
03-30-09, 08:05 AM
From my experiences, you have to be careful with bit rates if you create AVCHD structures on DVD's. If the bit rate is too high (HD rates) then the drive cannot transfer data fast enough and you get stuttering. At least this is what I experienced on my PS3. I had to re-encode the video to a lower bit rate to play smoothly and sometimes go from 1080p to 720p.

I routinely create AVCHD structures on a USB drive to play on my PS3 and it works just fine, with TrueHD or DTS HD Master audio. But of course a USB2 drive is way faster than a DVD.

Not sure if the other standalone players have USB ports that allow this.

You are correct.

The DVD redbook standard only allowed for a max data transfer rate of 16Mb/s, so you have to keep your data under this if you are going to use DVD-R AVCHD format, as the discs will not spin any faster.

I have made a couple of 16Mb/s AVCHD on DVD-Rs, and they play fine on my Panny BD35 BRD player. The higher speed ones I tried do not play properly.

Pepster returns
03-30-09, 08:07 AM
What is the latest and greatest blu-ray burning software? I am leaning toward Nero 8 Ultimate and Power2Go.

Burning only - use IMGBURN (free)

Pepster returns
03-30-09, 08:11 AM
Is there some way for me to take a video short, create a Blu-Ray compatible disc using Nero or some similar BD authoring program, then burn the data onto a NORMAL DVD+R, and have it playback as High Definition on most if not all BluRay Players?

I have some video shorts I made in HD that I want to put on a normal DVD+R that most BluRay Players would play. Can someone let me know how to do that?

For the PS3 all I have to do is put the .mpeg files on a disc either in the root directory or a directory called VIDEO off the root and it works fine.

Is there something similar I can do that a regular BD player would recognize?
Yes.

I have used TSMUXER, then IMGBURN on several AVCHD on DVD-R (+ or-) and these played fine on a Panny BD35 and a Sony 350 player.

Note- the Sony player was a little fussy, but this was solved when I dropped my burn speed down to 1x.

Pepster returns
03-30-09, 08:14 AM
I'm trying to convert an .mkv file into a blu-ray iso image so that 'My Movies' will read it as such as well as PowerDVD 9???

VLC player (free) and KMPlayer (free community project) both play .mkv, mt2s etc etc etc files OK.

new04quest
04-03-09, 12:49 PM
What is the best way to copy/backup blu-ray movie with the limited 25 GB blank disc? I want to backup Kungfu Panda for my kid. Kungfu Panda is roughly 43 GB. I want to store the original disc away.

I have Lite-On BD-RE, Power2go, and AnyDVD HD software. I copy Kungfu Panda files using AnyDVD HD to HDD. There are two folders on my HDD (BDMV and CERT).

Rach
04-03-09, 12:58 PM
Um, I didn't know there was any way to "back up" a BD movie. ;)

Mouw
04-04-09, 03:25 AM
Um, I didn't know there was any way to "back up" a BD movie ;)

GUIDE: BackUp Blu-Ray Discs or HD-DVDs (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151) :p

copy/backup blu-ray movie with 25 GB blank disc? Kungfu Panda is roughly 43 GB

RipBot264 will COMPRESS movie only -> DVD5/9 or BD-R 25gb (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=127611)

BD_Rebuilder SHRINKS movie OR whole-disc -> DVD5/9 & BD-R (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716)

Mouw
04-04-09, 03:55 AM
Note- the Sony player was a little fussy, but this was solved when I dropped my burn speed down to 1x.

ImgBurn v2.4.2.0 -> LG GGW-H20L (6X) -> Memorex BluRay 25GB BD-R (4X)

burning at MAX speed (4+) plays back fine on Sony BDP-S350

looks like NEW version ImgBurn v2.4.3.0 Released (http://www.imgburn.com/)

new04quest
04-06-09, 10:39 AM
I'll wait for thing to settle down, and hopefully somebody can come up with friendly software to shrink blu-ray movie. It is still too complicated. If I have a lot of time, I don't mind it but I'm too busy with the twin boys to hackle through the software. For now, I stick with the Power2go and AnyDVD HD to copy the 43 GB movie on the 50 GB BD-RE disc. The 50 GB BD-RE is pricey, but it is no headache. I can re-use it too.

GodsLabRat
04-11-09, 12:21 AM
Hi all

I'm really getting interesting in authoring my own BR discs. I'm on a Mac, and it seems the only software that supports this is the new version of Toast. Has anyone used this, and can you comment on how easy/difficult it is to make BR discs? I've already used iDVD quite a bit, as well as Roxio Easy Media Creator on the windows side of things.

Sirluckyj
04-15-09, 09:59 AM
I have many concerts on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Is there any way to record the songs that I like from each to a Blu-Ray disc using a Blu-ray burner? Thanks.

Jim

wco81
04-15-09, 01:09 PM
What are media prices around these days?

And shrinking a BD movie, isn't it the point to have the best PQ and AQ so you want to preserve the bitrates of the studio encode?

Or is there such a large delta between 25 and 50 GB media?

Stanton
04-15-09, 04:46 PM
Also, any “alternative” methods you’ve got for taking a home video and generating a VC-1 .m2ts file would also be just as great... I just want an example to upload to MS about this bug. Thanks!

Your best chance of just converting/creating m2ts files might be "Video Converter" at http://www.iskysoft.com/video-converter-windows.html

Alternatively, the new Corel Video Studio (used to be Ulead Video Studio) can create/edit all types of video files (including Hi-Def).

Laserfan
04-16-09, 10:09 AM
Alternatively, the new Corel Video Studio (used to be Ulead Video Studio) can create/edit all types of video files (including Hi-Def).I have VS11X2Pro and I'm pretty sure it doesn't output VC-1 though.

Stanton
04-17-09, 03:55 PM
I'll wait for thing to settle down, and hopefully somebody can come up with friendly software to shrink blu-ray movie.

That time is here: RipBot264. I know, it's been talked about here for a few months, but I have been looking around for ways to "shrink" a BD disk down for either iPod or PC use (like watching movies on a plane) and successfully did this w/RipBot and it's gang of other freeware utils this week. I'm running a (pretty fast) Vista laptop, and created a (movie only) 720p AVCHD DVD+R D/L that played on my Samsung 2550 without a hitch. All it takes is time.

HDextreme
04-22-09, 01:40 PM
I have a question maybe someone can help. I just burned my first BD-R Movie. I used Tsmuxer to create a blu-ray disc from a M2TS file of the movie only sin city. I first copied the main movie with anydvd in place on my hard drive. I then used imageburn with all the correct setting.

So, the disc plays perfectly on powerDVD but when I play it im my PS3 I get to about 80min and then the movie freezes.

I have an LG Burner and am using ridata bd-r 2x disc. I'm assuming there is a problem with the ps3 reading the disc since power dvd will play it perfectly. Any thoughts?

Thanks

Stanton
04-22-09, 01:52 PM
I think your assumption is correct. If you can play the disc at all in the PS3 (and I haven't used TSmuxer), then it should play all the way through. I've read reports of PS3 Blu-Ray drives failing, and you've described one of the symptoms.

HDextreme
04-22-09, 02:34 PM
I think your assumption is correct. If you can play the disc at all in the PS3 (and I haven't used TSmuxer), then it should play all the way through. I've read reports of PS3 Blu-Ray drives failing, and you've described one of the symptoms.

Yup, disc plays perfectly audio and video until about 80 min. If this is the case I hope eventually the PS3 will have updates to better support bd-r discs.

freshane
04-23-09, 03:28 AM
I have been using anydvd hd to backup my blu-rays. Its been working really well I have been doing full backups of 50gb disc. I have some 25gb discs that I want to use up. What would be the best way to shrink some movies that are around 35GB in size so I could fit them on a 25GB bd-r?? All my files are currently on an external hard drive. I want to keep the picture quality and hd audio. Would ripbot264 be a good option?? I am still really new with blu-ray. Thanks

zoro
04-23-09, 11:46 AM
I have been using anydvd hd to backup my blu-rays. Its been working really well I have been doing full backups of 50gb disc. I have some 25gb discs that I want to use up. What would be the best way to shrink some movies that are around 35GB in size so I could fit them on a 25GB bd-r?? All my files are currently on an external hard drive. I want to keep the picture quality and hd audio. Would ripbot264 be a good option?? I am still really new with blu-ray. Thanks

Same here! But seems there is no ONE STEP PROCESS INCLUDING BOTH AUDIO/VIDEO?

I tried backing up 2010 SA, and Anydvd is not ripping it. Is there a patch needed to upgrade anydvd?

Hef
04-23-09, 01:52 PM
Same here! But seems there is no ONE STEP PROCESS INCLUDING BOTH AUDIO/VIDEO?

I tried backing up 2010 SA, and Anydvd is not ripping it. Is there a patch needed to upgrade anydvd?

BD-Rebuilder is a one step process ....

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

zoro
04-23-09, 03:44 PM
BD-Rebuilder is a one step process ....

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

thanks will check.

Mouw
04-23-09, 05:51 PM
tried backing up 2010 SA, and Anydvd is not ripping it. Is there a patch needed to upgrade anydvd?

AnyDVD is constantly UPgrading so NEW movies work

Forum : AnyDVD HD (http://forum.slysoft.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53)

HDextreme
04-23-09, 10:25 PM
Tried my 2nd burn today of a BD-R(posted my results of the 1st burn above). This time I took my copy of 300 copied the main M2TS file and then used tsmuxer to make a blu-ray disc with the video and the main english true-hd audio only. This time I got the verbatim bd-r I used to play perfectly all the way through but no audio on my PS3.

Does anyone know if I need to include any more tracks to get the PS3 to play the audio when I use Tsmuxer?

How about if I played the same disc on a stand alone player that supports bitstream?

Thanks for any help.

poiv3
04-24-09, 10:20 AM
Tried my 2nd burn today of a BD-R(posted my results of the 1st burn above). This time I took my copy of 300 copied the main M2TS file and then used tsmuxer to make a blu-ray disc with the video and the main english true-hd audio only. This time I got the verbatim bd-r I used to play perfectly all the way through but no audio on my PS3.

Does anyone know if I need to include any more tracks to get the PS3 to play the audio when I use Tsmuxer?

How about if I played the same disc on a stand alone player that supports bitstream?

Thanks for any help.

I think your problem can be in the way you worked with tsmuxer. You copied a file first and then created a blu-ray structure after that, but tsmuxer lets you choose the main movie and blu-ray output right away.

Stanton
04-24-09, 01:24 PM
All my files are currently on an external hard drive. I want to keep the picture quality and hd audio. Would ripbot264 be a good option?? I am still really new with blu-ray. Thanks

When other video converters don't work (specifically one's that operate on M2TS files), I have found RipBot to be a good alternative. You may have to transcode AGAIN (for audio/video format tweaks--like bit rates), but once you get the file converted to MP4, there are programs out there to do it. A 2-step conversion process is better than no process.

HDextreme
04-24-09, 10:46 PM
I think your problem can be in the way you worked with tsmuxer. You copied a file first and then created a blu-ray structure after that, but tsmuxer lets you choose the main movie and blu-ray output right away.

I guess tsmuxer was the problem, I tried tsremux to create the blu-ray files and it worked perfectly. I played 300 bd-r all the way through with dolby trueHD.

After much research it seems like tsmuxer works with DTS and tsremux is good for dolby trueHD.

mtallent
04-25-09, 11:01 AM
Make sure you have the latest version of tsMuxeR, there have been some recent updates, the last time I checked it was version 1.9.9.

Mike T

zoro
04-25-09, 03:21 PM
I would like, dts , dts hd, or true hd converted to pcm, that is ps3 compatible but none does it still, downgrading 1580mbps soundtrack to 640 sucks!

PeterTHX
04-25-09, 04:12 PM
I would like, dts , dts hd, or true hd converted to pcm, that is ps3 compatible but none does it still, downgrading 1580mbps soundtrack to 640 sucks!

While the solution isn't perfect, DD @640kbps hardly "sucks".

HDextreme
04-25-09, 04:52 PM
Make sure you have the latest version of tsMuxeR, there have been some recent updates, the last time I checked it was version 1.9.9.

Mike T

I thought I had the latest version but it looks like I don't. Do you know if the latest 1.9.9 fixes the dolby truehd problem?

Thanks

Pepster returns
04-25-09, 09:19 PM
Cheapest place to buy 50G Blu-Ray blanks ?

Any one?

vamovie
04-25-09, 11:21 PM
e-bay is ur best bet

frys having a sale on bd25gb disc for 45.00 15pack spindle
hurry up
i just got 4 of them

zoro
04-25-09, 11:53 PM
While the solution isn't perfect, DD @640kbps hardly "sucks".

I was talking relative! of course it is not 192kb/sec stereo lol

mtallent
04-26-09, 11:07 AM
I thought I had the latest version but it looks like I don't. Do you know if the latest 1.9.9 fixes the dolby truehd problem?

Thanks

I know it has been discussed on the Doom9 forum, but have not tried it myself. You now can select either AVCHD or Blu-Ray folder format.

Mike T

Hef
04-28-09, 03:01 PM
I thought I had the latest version but it looks like I don't. Do you know if the latest 1.9.9 fixes the dolby truehd problem?

Thanks

its suppose to just find the last and replace it over the one in BD-RB ...

Eraualex
05-01-09, 11:51 AM
I downloaded some 1080p trailers from apple.com/trailers, I want to put them on a dvd and play them on a blu-ray player. I tried regular drag, drop, and burn but blu-ray players and even dvd players won't read it.

How do I burn .mov files on a dvd so that a blu-ray play can read them?

alluringreality
05-02-09, 03:28 PM
You might want to check out multiAVCHD. Someone had asked me how to author AVCHD, and it seemed that program worked for him in authoring trailers so they could be played on AVCHD compatible Blu-ray players. He mentioned an audio item that he had to figure out, but it seemed like the program worked for him. If you don't mind some encoding time you could also check out VideoStudio to author AVCHD, they offer a trial version.

mtallent
05-03-09, 03:38 PM
I downloaded some 1080p trailers from apple.com/trailers, I want to put them on a dvd and play them on a blu-ray player. I tried regular drag, drop, and burn but blu-ray players and even dvd players won't read it.

How do I burn .mov files on a dvd so that a blu-ray play can read them?

You need to make the proper folder structure for a AVCHD. Get tsMuxeR 1.9.9 free on Doom9.net forum. Select the AVCHD output and then burn the folders onto a DVD in UDF 2.5 format.

Mike T

lchiu7
05-03-09, 04:58 PM
While multiavchd is able to produce the right folder structure for a AVCDH disc title there are two considerations (at least)

Firstly you need software that can burn a title in UDF 2.5 format (Imgburn is a free one which is good)

You need compatible video format to be authored. I don't think mov format falls in that category so it would have to be transcoded to .m2ts format (I don't think multiavchd actually transcodes content at all). x264 come to mind but there are other tools also

Pepster returns
05-08-09, 12:24 AM
You need to make the proper folder structure for a AVCHD. Get tsMuxeR 1.9.9 free on Doom9.net forum. Select the AVCHD output and then burn the folders onto a DVD in UDF 2.5 format.

Mike T

+1

I might add that IMGBURN is the only free software that I am aware of that will burn in the required UDF2.5 format.

Mark A Gonzalez
05-08-09, 11:26 AM
I was thinking of buying the LG GBW-H20L. Is there a better bang for the buck internal drive? Also can I backup my blu-ray disc bit for bit identical to the original or is there a compromise?

Mouw
05-14-09, 04:00 AM
LG GBW-H20L. Is there a better bang for the buck internal drive? Also can I backup my blu-ray disc bit for bit identical to the original or is there a compromise?

i have the earlier LG GGW-H20L = works like a charm (1yr now)
+ the GGW-H20L also reads HD-DVD (movies not yet BluRay)
NewEgg has OEM product now $160

NO compromises bit-->bit (aka= CLONE)
some loss in BPS == BD-R DL-->BD-R-->BD9-->BD5

Mark A Gonzalez
05-17-09, 03:28 AM
Thanks, What does some loss in BPS ultimately meen? also what software do I need?

seggers
05-17-09, 09:21 AM
Thanks, What does some loss in BPS ultimately meen? also what software do I need?

Loss of bps (bits per second) means that the resultant output stream has become compressed. In other words, what was originally, say 10Gb has now become 7 or 8Gb.

If your going after one of the LG BD burners (I have one) then it will come with a suite of programs (Cyberlink HiDef Suite) that will include a BD burning program.

Seggers

Justinas
05-18-09, 03:44 AM
No there is not like that why you made off cables 5c protection don't do like that i will suggest you something soon

Mark A Gonzalez
05-18-09, 11:18 AM
"Loss of bps (bits per second) means that the resultant output stream has become compressed. In other words, what was originally, say 10Gb has now become 7 or 8Gb."

So it sounds like I end up with an inferior copy. How can I keep all of the BPS with no compression?

lchiu7
05-19-09, 05:31 PM
"Loss of bps (bits per second) means that the resultant output stream has become compressed. In other words, what was originally, say 10Gb has now become 7 or 8Gb."

So it sounds like I end up with an inferior copy. How can I keep all of the BPS with no compression?


You will be surprised how much additional compression can be done on a BluRay title with little noticeable visual change. For example I have a 4.5Gb MKV version of Iron Man (compressed to h.264 format) and the BR title. On a A/B comparisons while you can see slight differences (most noticeable in darker scenes where macroblocking becomes slightly evident) for the most part the differences are not discernible on average viewing. I suspect that if the data rate or compression had been reduced so that the new version was about 9Gb (still a lot less than the 20 Gb of the original) you would be hard pressed to see any differences.

To keep the original with no additional compression would require I guess dual layer media and a program that could author content appropriately (multiAVCHD has been mentioned already)

Laramie55
05-28-09, 07:22 AM
Hello, I've hopped through much of this thread looking for discussions on BD backups using DVD+R DL but haven't found any so far. Search didn't turn up any either. is it not done? If you can point me in the right direction? I am trying to determine if i can make use of less expensive media and have my equipment upconvert it and get a good 61"picture.
Thanks,
Lar

Stanton
05-28-09, 10:43 AM
Hello, I've hopped through much of this thread looking for discussions on BD backups using DVD+R DL but haven't found any so far.Thanks,
Lar

This is exactly what I did using "RipBot": I created an AVCHD disc on a DVD+R DL that plays on my Samsung 2550. Looks and sounds great. Search for "RipBot264" (I think) and you should find info; then do Google searches for your specific player (Samsung Blu-Ray players generally play these discs with some minor directory mods).

Laramie55
05-28-09, 02:52 PM
Thanks!

lchiu7
05-28-09, 07:08 PM
I like using MeGui which is a front end to x264.exe. I won't go into the details on how to get the content off the disk since that is of dubious legality but once you have gotten it off, x264.exe (which I think RipBot calls) can do a great job on encoding the video to H.264 format for subsequent authoring to a DVD in AVCHD format.

Another tool to look at is Handbrake which again uses x264 as its main encoding engine

rf75
05-29-09, 07:37 AM
... then what is a good (preferably open source i.e. free) authoring program to create h.264-based DVDs that will play in BluRay players? I'm less interesting in copies of BD than saving stuff I have recorded off-air and I don't need fancy menus or titles. -thx :D

mike171979
05-30-09, 10:49 PM
Well, I'll just come out and say it, I've been duped. I purchased a copy of Defiance on Bluray at a local fleemarket. It was in a real Bluray case, had good printing on the disc, and a very nice printed cover.

But when I took it out of the case, the back of the Bluray was Black, and I thought, uh oh.

So I loaded it up in the PS3, and it works perfectly, in full HD, and all of the in movie menus work, and everything is actually fine, to my disbelief, LOL, except there is no True HD, just Dolby Digitial 5.1, and that sucks, because I'm kind of an audiophile.

Needless to say, I won't be going back to this guy any more, but I am amazed at how high of a quality product he put out.

Stanton
06-01-09, 11:36 AM
Well, I'll just come out and say it, I've been duped. I purchased a copy of Defiance on Bluray at a local fleemarket. It was in a real Bluray case, had good printing on the disc, and a very nice printed cover.


The fact that it wasn't even RELEASED yet should have been a dead giveaway. It's stuff like this that drives the studios towards copy protection.

Foxbat121
06-01-09, 11:40 AM
Well, I'll just come out and say it, I've been duped. I purchased a copy of Defiance on Bluray at a local fleemarket. It was in a real Bluray case, had good printing on the disc, and a very nice printed cover.

But when I took it out of the case, the back of the Bluray was Black, and I thought, uh oh.

So I loaded it up in the PS3, and it works perfectly, in full HD, and all of the in movie menus work, and everything is actually fine, to my disbelief, LOL, except there is no True HD, just Dolby Digitial 5.1, and that sucks, because I'm kind of an audiophile.

Needless to say, I won't be going back to this guy any more, but I am amazed at how high of a quality product he put out.

Sounds like an AVCHD copy which can contain HD video but only DD 5.1 at best. They also have to lower the bitrate of video in order to fit a BD movie on to a DVD-R disc.

Foxbat121
06-01-09, 11:46 AM
... then what is a good (preferably open source i.e. free) authoring program to create h.264-based DVDs that will play in BluRay players? I'm less interesting in copies of BD than saving stuff I have recorded off-air and I don't need fancy menus or titles. -thx :D

Either TxMuxer or MultiAVCHD (both are freeware) can be used to author AVCHD compatible disc and use ImgBurn (also freeware) to burn the disc with required UDF 2.5 format.

You will have to compress your source into AVCHD compatible video format first. A lot of BD players are very strict about conforming to AVCHD standard before they will play the disc. See www.AVCHD-Info.org for details.

mike171979
06-01-09, 02:54 PM
Sounds like an AVCHD copy which can contain HD video but only DD 5.1 at best. They also have to lower the bitrate of video in order to fit a BD movie on to a DVD-R disc.

I don't know, the bit rate was pretty high as confirmed by my PS3, and the disc is for sure a Bluray disc, as I've handled BD-Rs before, and they have a different feel than a DVD-R.

I'm sure hes using those 25GB BD-R with the blank white face, that he inkjets the label onto.

I mean, I want to be mad at the guy, but heck, the quality of the video is perfect, and all of the bonus features are all in HD too. If it wasn't for the DD 5.1 instead of True HD, it'd be a perfect copy.

That being said, its still an illiegal copy, which is not cool, and I can assure you, no matter how nice of a copy it is, I won't be buying from this guy again. But I though Blurays were not copyable. I thought they all had BD+ and other stuff on them that made burning a bluray disc impossible. But apparently, at least Defiance, doesn't have any of that stuff on the disc.

poiv3
06-01-09, 03:34 PM
Sounds like an AVCHD copy which can contain HD video but only DD 5.1 at best. They also have to lower the bitrate of video in order to fit a BD movie on to a DVD-R disc.

Who says AVCHD can hold only DD5.1 at best? If it was on a BD-R 25Gb, they probably just left it out to save space for video.

Laserfan
06-01-09, 04:45 PM
...its still an illiegal copy, which is not cool, and I can assure you, no matter how nice of a copy it is, I won't be buying from this guy again.That's it? You're not reporting this crook to the police? He's a thief, plain and simple.

Foxbat121
06-01-09, 05:25 PM
Who says AVCHD can hold only DD5.1 at best? If it was on a BD-R 25Gb, they probably just left it out to save space for video.

When you burn it to BD-R, it is no longer called AVCHD format. It is BDMV format.

Foxbat121
06-01-09, 05:28 PM
I don't know, the bit rate was pretty high as confirmed by my PS3, and the disc is for sure a Bluray disc, as I've handled BD-Rs before, and they have a different feel than a DVD-R.



AVCHD on DVD can have max video bitrate of 18mbps.



I'm sure hes using those 25GB BD-R with the blank white face, that he inkjets the label onto.


Consider the cost of a blank BD-R, you probably got a heck of deal. But, like you said, I will not spend my $$ on such shady deal.

mike171979
06-01-09, 06:21 PM
That's it? You're not reporting this crook to the police? He's a thief, plain and simple.

From a flea market? Its a monthly market, he might not even be back next month, and I don't even know the dudes name.

Thats pretty tough to report, but I do go to this market a few times a year, and next time I know if I do see him again, to walk by and just look the other way.

mike171979
06-01-09, 06:25 PM
AVCHD on DVD can have max video bitrate of 18mbps.



Consider the cost of a blank BD-R, you probably got a heck of deal. But, like you said, I will not spend my $$ on such shady deal.

The highest bitrate I saw on the PS3 was 25mbps. $12 bucks for a good copy of a Bluray movie on a BD-R does seem like a decent deal. Until I realize all I have to do is wait a couple of months, and I can pick up a real copy at Blockbuster for the 2 for $25 deal they are having on all pre-viewed Blurays.

Laserfan
06-02-09, 09:42 AM
I do go to this market a few times a year, and next time I know if I do see him again, to walk by and just look the other way.Guess you must enjoy being duped! Sheesh. :rolleyes:

poiv3
06-02-09, 12:25 PM
When you burn it to BD-R, it is no longer called AVCHD format. It is BDMV format.

No, it is not. But anyway, what does it have to do with what you said. Both support hd audio.

Foxbat121
06-02-09, 02:45 PM
No, it is not.

Read it here http://www.avchd-info.org/format/index.html

rack04
06-02-09, 03:36 PM
No, it is not. But anyway, what does it have to do with what you said. Both support hd audio.

I agree. AVCHD format on Blu-ray Disc is not the same as BDMV.

seggers
06-02-09, 04:08 PM
I agree. AVCHD format on Blu-ray Disc is not the same as BDMV.

I thought straight ABCHD on a BD was a BDAV?

IIRC BDAV has no menus etc, and just has a film.

Seggers

alluringreality
06-03-09, 09:20 AM
AVCHD, HDMV, and BDAV all use different files. AVCHD is generally intended for DVD writable media, while HDMV and BDAV are intended for BD-R or BD-RE. I think TotalMedia Extreme and MovieFactory are both examples of software that can create any of those three types (they might label HDMV as Blu-ray).

Foxbat121
06-03-09, 10:06 AM
AVCHD is a standard created by Sony and Panasonic. It is targeted for HD camcorders for storing HD videos on DVD media or flash media. The standard has a lot of restrictions. Some players like Panasonic's will only play discs that are strictly authored according to spec.

Now don't mistake that with video clips encoded with AVC or H.264 and burned to BD-R/BD-RE discs. The only standard you can reference to is BD spec. There is no support of BD-R/RE in AVCHD spec. So, a player supporting AVCHD may or maynot play discs with those video clips on it in AVCHD folder structure.

Docism
06-11-09, 10:49 PM
Can I burn content on a Blue-ray blank DVD on my regular PC DVD burner? I'm sorry, this has to have been covered here before but I couldn't find anything.

Asb-123
06-11-09, 11:07 PM
no.

Laserfan
06-12-09, 09:40 AM
Can I burn content on a Blue-ray blank DVD on my regular PC DVD burner? I'm sorry, this has to have been covered here before but I couldn't find anything.What's a "Blue-ray blank DVD"? There are DVDs and there are BDs. You need a BD burner to burn a BD (25/50Gb).

You can burn Blu-ray *content* onto a DVD-5 or DVD DL with a DVD burner, and have it play-back as a Blu-ray program on your BD set-top player.

wco81
06-12-09, 10:14 AM
So Managed Copy may finally be coming next year.

You may have to pay for it but copying to BD-R is expected to be allowed, at least in some cases.

Will that increase sales of burners and media and bring down prices, particularly of media?

Pepster returns
06-14-09, 05:43 AM
AVCHD on DVD can have max video bitrate of 18mbps..

The RED BOOK standard for DVD is 16Mb/s max.
If you burn >16Mb/s AVCHD on DVDR, you blu-ray player will most likely not play it propery - expect stutter, or complete lock-up.

AVCHD is already up to 25Mb/s on many new camcorders.
Panasonic will also soon release a much higher AVCHD spec - 35MB/s is expected.

cdnbum88
06-19-09, 02:52 PM
Searching and reading through this good thread, but did not find what I was looking for.

Is there a way to take BD and dumbed it down to play on my kids portable DVD player of any decent quality and obviously 5.1 is not a factor really?

I have Nero9 at the moment and have not tried this yet since I just got my upgrade this week and was going to try and play with it this weekend. I know it has a BD authoring plug-in I got, but I don't have a BD burner at the moment, but will at some point since I just also bought a Canon HF11 and will start putting family video on AVCHD media.

Any links people can point me to in AVS or else where?

lchiu7
06-19-09, 04:32 PM
Searching and reading through this good thread, but did not find what I was looking for.

Is there a way to take BD and dumbed it down to play on my kids portable DVD player of any decent quality and obviously 5.1 is not a factor really?

Strictly speaking if your BD is a commercial title, there is no way to do this since you have to crack the BD encryption on the disc which can also include the Java encryption.

But if the legality (and technical effort) of this doesn't bother you then check out this link

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137151

Note that is not for the faint hearted and of course you do need a BD drive for your computer.

For children movies anyway, manufacturers should take Disney's lead and include free or at a minimal cost (like a mailin coupon) a DVD copy of the movie.

lchiu7
06-19-09, 05:54 PM
The RED BOOK standard for DVD is 16Mb/s max.
If you burn >16Mb/s AVCHD on DVDR, you blu-ray player will most likely not play it propery - expect stutter, or complete lock-up.

AVCHD is already up to 25Mb/s on many new camcorders.
Panasonic will also soon release a much higher AVCHD spec - 35MB/s is expected.

If you don't want to invest in BD media, it's quite possible to re-encode the content with minimal quality loss to a rate that fits in the Red Book standard and plays fine on a player that can play AVCHD format (I use the PS3 myself).

I have been seen movies that originated on BD that have been re-encoded to fit a single layer DVD and authored as AVCHD and when played back on the PS3, they not only play smoothly, the PQ is still definitely HD quality and very acceptable.

starwarskid
07-02-09, 02:29 AM
My situation is probably an easy one to fix but I need some help because I’ve ran out of ideas and there are more experts here on this forum. :)

I have a .ts file which contains an H.264/AVC HD video component and a DD5.1 audio component. I then used TSMUXER v1.10.6 to create a bluray in order to play on my PS3. I select AVCHD disk on TSMUXER so that I can burn using a DVD-RW. I burn the BD files using Nero 8 with UDF 2.5 settings. Everything is good except when I play it on the PS3 (recently updated to v2.76), the video is not smooth. It’s a bit choppy. The audio however is good and in sync with the video.

I take the same .ts file and use TSREMUX (v0.0.21.2) and perform similar steps above and the DVD works flawlessy in my PS3 (AVCHD disk). Video is in its full HD quality with DD5.1 audio. Video is also smooth.

What is wrong when I use TSMUXER? I would like to use TSMUXER because it has features such as ‘join’ other files that TSREMUX doesn’t have.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

mtallent
07-04-09, 02:45 AM
My situation is probably an easy one to fix but I need some help because I’ve ran out of ideas and there are more experts here on this forum. :)

I have a .ts file which contains an H.264/AVC HD video component and a DD5.1 audio component. I then used TSMUXER v1.10.6 to create a bluray in order to play on my PS3. I select AVCHD disk on TSMUXER so that I can burn using a DVD-RW. I burn the BD files using Nero 8 with UDF 2.5 settings. Everything is good except when I play it on the PS3 (recently updated to v2.76), the video is not smooth. It’s a bit choppy. The audio however is good and in sync with the video.

I take the same .ts file and use TSREMUX (v0.0.21.2) and perform similar steps above and the DVD works flawlessy in my PS3 (AVCHD disk). Video is in its full HD quality with DD5.1 audio. Video is also smooth.

What is wrong when I use TSMUXER? I would like to use TSMUXER because it has features such as ‘join’ other files that TSREMUX doesn’t have.

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks.

There may be some problem with your file and TSRemux does do some file repair as it remuxes. So I would suggest you take the original .ts file and just run it through TSRemux with the output being the same .ts format, then put the file into tsRemuX and make the settings you want and see if it plays OK.

Mike T

threelions
07-09-09, 09:39 PM
I was hoping yall could help me out. I have a larger BD file of mine I'm trying to burn on a 25g BD-R. Is the best way to decrease the size of the file without effecting quality to use TSmuxer to get rid of the extra audio formats? What about deleting extra scenes, can I just delete it from the file and the burn will be ok or do I need to redo the file through TSmuxer?

Thanks for the help and any extra explanations I may receive

threelions
07-11-09, 04:38 PM
Any help on this? Pm or reply would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

lchiu7
07-11-09, 05:16 PM
Any help on this? Pm or reply would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Assuming you are backing up a BD title you own (there is really no other legal scenario I can think of and even then it's somewhat contentious) then as you say the best way is remove additional audio tracks. If you open up the m2ts file in txmuxer (the GUI) you can see all the audio tracks in the file. Select the one you want and output a new copy of the file without that audio (TrueHD and DTS HD Master occupy a fair bit of space). See if that is below 25G now. If not then you are going to have to compress the video which won't make much discernible difference to the PQ but does take time and knowledge which isn't really appropriate to be discussed in this forum.

threelions
07-11-09, 05:32 PM
Thanks, I realize some may have been afraid to comment because they believe it has illegal implications. What I'm attempting to do is make a backup of my blu ray that is rather large. I can't afford 50gig bd-r's so I'm trying to make due with what I have. I appreciate the advice.

theSteam
07-15-09, 12:39 AM
Hello,
I am suffering from some serious confusion. First off I am a newbie...with that being said...
I am looking for a blu-ray burner to make my own movies (BRMV) from
my Canon VIXIA HFS-100. H.264 codec. I have Adobe Premiere CS4, which includes Encore for burning the BD media.
So, I found the LaCie d2. I received this response from LaCie, "Thank you for contacting LaCie, the primary function of the BR burner is for data archival purposes, with a secondary function of HD playback through the Power DVD BD software which is bundled with this product. At this time, Blu Ray codec authoring is kept highly proprietary by Sony and authoring is limited only to those that commercially produce under licensing. The software that is bundled with this drive does not have the functionality of authoring Blu Ray codec to disk, and to my knowledge no such thing exists in the market at this time.

On a separate note, this Blu Ray burner is fully capable of writing/re-writing data to the 50gb disks, so in turn if you have a media player capable of decoding H.264 file format, then theoretically this device should work to burn that file format to disk and have the player decode it off the disk. Just to make it clear that blu ray codec authoring is something done at the software level and at this time there is nothing available that will perform such a function without extensive licenses.



I hope this clears up some confusion and let us know if you have any further questions."
And in a second email...

"This is the information I have been given regarding our LaCie product, Blu-Ray authoring is something that we do not support with this device at this time. With regard to Encore by Adobe, it looks like you are right and this software suite appears to be capable of exactly what you are looking for, unfortunately our product hardware is not supported in this capacity."

Well, it didn't clear up anything! I have tried the forums at adobe... searched here etc, etc.
This quote is from the LaCie website,"Engineered for professional video authoring houses, (the italics are mine) the LaCie d2 Blu-ray Drive records, rewrites, and plays back high-definition (HD) video. Store up to four hours of HD video on a 50GB** disc—about 10 times as much as a DVD. Shoot HD videos from your camcorder, author the videos, and burn them without any quality loss using multiple video codecs (MPEG2, AVC, VC-1). "


So, if this drive WON'T do it according to the sales person, what can I buy that will do what I want to do?

Sorry for the length of this post... I just don't know how else to approach this problem. Been working on it for days now!!!

Thanks for the read & any advice....

Regards, Douglas
P.S. Perhaps I should have simply asked what are you folks using...?

seggers
07-15-09, 07:53 AM
Douglas,

I have an LG HH something or other BD burner, that does burn BD with the supplied software. I also went out and got Corel's Ulead Movie Factory 6 + the HD add on pack. This will allow me to do BDAVs (video only) as well as BDMVs (full on).

That said, what are you using to play your discs with? If your BD player will do AVCHDs, then skip turning them into BDs and just use DVD5 or 9 (4 or 8Gb) to burn 30mins or 1 hour (roughly) of AVCHD files.

I have a Canon HF100 and that's what I do now. I kind of regret getting my BD burner as my PS3 will quite happily play the AVCHD DVDs. I do use it for backing up files from my PC (along with extra copies of my original AVC files).

Seggers

cdnbum88
07-15-09, 08:36 AM
I have yet to use this piece of functionality in Nero 9, but it as a Blu Ray authoring add-on for making your home movies on BD.

I don't have BD burner yet, but based on the previous thread I may just do the AVCHD route and run with that.

But either way, the Nero 9 has that option.

mtallent
07-16-09, 12:26 PM
There are some free programs that will author AVCHD and BDMV formats that you can burn on std DVD disks or BD disks. One is tsMuxeR that is discussed on the www.doom9.org forums. You cannot make menus but you can have chapters in the blu-ray disks you make with this free program.

Mike T

MozartMan
07-16-09, 12:32 PM
I use multiAVCHD to author AVCHD or BDMV disks now. It can produce menus! And it is free.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

rack04
07-23-09, 09:00 AM
For those of you who are encoding using the x264 since r1177 (changes to defaults, presets, profiles, and fast first pass) what is your command line?

Here is what I came up with:

Echo.
Echo.
Echo.[ %TIME% ] Encoding pass 1 ...
Echo.

@Echo on
"%x264_PATH%" --preset fast --tune film --pass 1 --slow-firstpass --bitrate %VIDBITRATE% --stats "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\%SOURCE_FILENAME%.stats" --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --thread-input --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --output NUL "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.avs"
@Echo off

Echo.
Echo.
Echo.[ %TIME% ] Encoding pass 2 ...
Echo.

@Echo on
"%x264_PATH%" --preset slow --tune film --pass 2 --bitrate %VIDBITRATE% --stats "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\%SOURCE_FILENAME%.stats" --level 4.1 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --vbv-bufsize 30000 --vbv-maxrate 24000 --thread-input --trellis 2 --no-fast-pskip --b-pyramid --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd --output "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.h264" "%SOURCE_FOLDER%\%SOURCE_FILENAME%-output.avs"
@Echo off

rack04
07-23-09, 09:46 AM
Thanks, I realize some may have been afraid to comment because they believe it has illegal implications. What I'm attempting to do is make a backup of my blu ray that is rather large. I can't afford 50gig bd-r's so I'm trying to make due with what I have. I appreciate the advice.

Well depending on the size of the source it could be as easy as demuxing the video and audio of the main movie using eac3to and then authoring using tsMuxeR.

theSteam
07-26-09, 04:36 PM
Douglas,

I have an LG HH something or other BD burner, that does burn BD with the supplied software. I also went out and got Corel's Ulead Movie Factory 6 + the HD add on pack. This will allow me to do BDAVs (video only) as well as BDMVs (full on).

That said, what are you using to play your discs with? If your BD player will do AVCHDs, then skip turning them into BDs and just use DVD5 or 9 (4 or 8Gb) to burn 30mins or 1 hour (roughly) of AVCHD files.

I have a Canon HF100 and that's what I do now. I kind of regret getting my BD burner as my PS3 will quite happily play the AVCHD DVDs. I do use it for backing up files from my PC (along with extra copies of my original AVC files).

Seggers

Thanks for the info, EVERYONE!!! I bought a Pioneer BDP-09FD which says it plays AVCHD.

vamovie
07-26-09, 07:40 PM
Hi fellows

i have a question

iam trying to make avchd on the sea monsters i have
iam using/choose avchd in multiavchd since it came under 8.5gb when i made and burn and iam using dvd-dl
iam getting jitter playback on video and audio
what ami doing wrong?

p.s: should i choose eac3to when iam making avchd
(i assume since its ac3 format i don't need too!!)
please help
Thanks alott in advance

hphase
08-05-09, 03:05 PM
Apologies if this has been covered before, but need a way to store captured MPEG2 transport streams on a BD-R (testing on BD-RE, of course!)

I've got Toast 9 with the BD plug-in, but I can't find a file or extension that Toast likes.

I do NOT need to burn HD to DVD-R. I just want to put my transport streams on a BD that can actually be played in a BD player (or PS3 if I must.)

Tips and pointers appreciated. Thanks!

Stefan
08-05-09, 10:14 PM
I just want to put my transport streams on a BD that can actually be played in a BD player (or PS3 if I must.)

I've had good luck using TsRemuxer and Imgburn. Some people prefer tsmuxer to TsRemuxer, but I often times had audio/video sync issues when using it.

I do NOT need to burn HD to DVD-R.

That's actually good because getting BD-5, BD-9, and AVCHD disks that play has been much more problematic for me. There seem to more restrictions about what bitrates and video and audio can be played off a dvd. Also the maximum bitrate of what can be played off a dvd seems to be very low (12mbit or less) making it useless for most Mpeg2 content. My old Hd-dvd player could play broadcast standard Mpeg2 content authored onto a dvd without issue, but my blu-ray player doesn't. This was because HD-DVD players had a trick they used on such content. They would spin the disk 3x the normal speed of a regualr DVD player thus enabling bitrate of up to around 24mbit. BD players apparently aren't smart enough to do this.

hphase
08-06-09, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the info. I had nothing but security problems trying to download tsremuxer. I tried tsmuxer and it worked, but I had the same A/V sync issues you mentioned. The re-muxing must not be exactly right. I tried replacing the m2ts stream in the bdmv file system with the original captured ts stream. While the disc "plays," there is no audio or video.

Any other tips?

Stanton
08-07-09, 09:08 PM
Why don't you guys use RipBot? It's been mentioned in this thread many times, and I have successfully created AVCHD discs and standard MP4 files using it (the latter which can be converted to VOB for DVD burning).

hphase
08-08-09, 08:44 AM
Why don't you guys use RipBot? It's been mentioned in this thread many times, and I have successfully created AVCHD discs and standard MP4 files using it (the latter which can be converted to VOB for DVD burning).
I've got perfectly good HD MPEG2 files that I want to preserve, just put them onto a BD so they can be played without a separate computer.

Just an FYI, I burned another test file (with tsmuxer) and the sync was fine. The beginning part of the file during my previous test may not have been trimmed properly.

Stefan
08-09-09, 04:00 AM
I had nothing but security problems trying to download tsremuxer.

Really? That's odd. Where did you try to download it from and what software gave you the security warnings? I downloaded it from the "Download (direct link)" link on this page.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux

Then I uploaded it to the Virustotal website. I always do this before installing any new software I download from the net just to be safe. Anyway, it seems to come up clean after being scanned by 41 different AV scanners. This was actually the main reason I initially went with Tsremuxer as many other pieces of software of this nature didn't always come up clean. Anyway, here's a link to the results of my scan.

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/715600ae4c755f818c0eabd4de64451b8a71b8368052b5403f86fb282458 d357-1249804470

I've got perfectly good HD MPEG2 files that I want to preserve, just put them onto a BD so they can be played without a separate computer.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm doing. No need to waste time re-encoding the video, which is inevitably going to also reduce the quality, when you've already got video in a format that's compatible. Some of my recordings are from OTA and some are from satellite. The only time I've found it necessary to re-encode is with stream that have MPEG audio (these only come from satellite as OTA is always AC3). Apparently Mpeg audio isn't supported by blu-ray players or at least mine have had issues with it. Anyway, I've had good luck as long as I burn to a BD. Burning to DVD media is a different story and players seem to be much pickier about playing BD video from DVD. The bitrate I think is the biggest issue as I mentioned in my previous post. Most of the time this is no big deal for me as I generally need to burn to BD anyway, but when I have something that's small enough to fit on a DL DVD, it kinda sucks to have to burn it to BD and waste all that extra space.

hphase
08-09-09, 09:32 AM
Really? That's odd. Where did you try to download it from and what software gave you the security warnings? I downloaded it from the "Download (direct link)" link on this page.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TsRemux

Then I uploaded it to the Virustotal website. I always do this before installing any new software I download from the net just to be safe. Anyway, it seems to come up clean after being scanned by 41 different AV scanners. This was actually the main reason I initially went with Tsremuxer as many other pieces of software of this nature didn't always come up clean. Anyway, here's a link to the results of my scan.

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/715600ae4c755f818c0eabd4de64451b8a71b8368052b5403f86fb282458 d357-1249804470

Maybe "security" isn't my problem. I always found that IE had "encountered a problem and needed to close." I tried a few mirror sites, too.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I'm doing. No need to waste time re-encoding the video, which is inevitably going to also reduce the quality, when you've already got video in a format that's compatible. Some of my recordings are from OTA and some are from satellite. The only time I've found it necessary to re-encode is with stream that have MPEG audio (these only come from satellite as OTA is always AC3). Apparently Mpeg audio isn't supported by blu-ray players or at least mine have had issues with it. Anyway, I've had good luck as long as I burn to a BD. Burning to DVD media is a different story and players seem to be much pickier about playing BD video from DVD. The bitrate I think is the biggest issue as I mentioned in my previous post. Most of the time this is no big deal for me as I generally need to burn to BD anyway, but when I have something that's small enough to fit on a DL DVD, it kinda sucks to have to burn it to BD and waste all that extra space.
I'm not sure how much mux-ing of any kind I need to do. It appears that all I need to do is come up with a disc file structure that the BD player understands. The .ts streams that I have should be perfectly valid for a BD player (OTA HD streams.) I haven't experimented enough to see if the BD player will seamlessly play video that has been spliced or audio that changes modes within the file.

Ray_Rogers
08-12-09, 04:38 AM
How about some HD broadcasts/downloads of titles which aren't even on Blu-ray yet? They'd be as interim titles of course. To burn onto a DVD-R or DL. BD5, BD9 or AVCHD? I have a few discs already of some titles in MP4 format or something similar which I play on my XBOX 360. I should be officially receiving the SONY BDP-S360 player several hours from now and since I looked at a .pdf of the manual it certainly plays AVCHD's. I'll test out the HD DVD-5's and DVD-9's I have.
Should I list titles? I'll also list the resolution they're in too.

Apocalypse Now Redux 720p
Back to the Future 720p
Back to the Future Part II 720p
Back to the Future Part III 720p
The Great Escape 720p
The Guns of Navarone 720p
Raiders of the Lost Ark 720p
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 720p
JAWS 720p
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 1080p
Lawrence of Arabia 720p
Rear Window 720p
RoboCop 2 720p

And alot of others. Of course I fancy these to be interim versions until the official release obviously. I'm only 30 and damn do I love movies even older than me.

hphase
08-13-09, 01:00 PM
My intent is NOT to redistribute broadcast content.

wiz
08-13-09, 08:37 PM
I haven't been around the forum for a while. I have 3 DVHS decks and about 200 movies on dvhs and am now looking into ugrading my computor. I'll be adding BD burner, what does anyone suggest for hardware from dell or who else for burning BD?

Ray_Rogers
08-14-09, 01:48 AM
My intent is NOT to redistribute broadcast content.If anything all my DVD-R's of HD film content will be put back on my computer and re-burned so they'll be BD5/BD9/AVCHD. Any idea how I should go about doing this?:confused:

JHL
08-14-09, 12:38 PM
I haven't been around the forum for a while. I have 3 DVHS decks and about 200 movies on dvhs and am now looking into ugrading my computor. I'll be adding BD burner, what does anyone suggest for hardware from dell or who else for burning BD?

I also have a few DVHS movies I am trying to transfer to BD. I purchased an i7 system from Dell with Vista x64, 6GB of RAM and a Bluray burner for about $800, back in April.

The hardware seems to be fine but there were definitely some issues. I have had a particularly difficult time transferring the files from tape to hard disk. None of the free tools seem to work in Vista x64 and my old XP system stopped working too :( I did transfer a few movies before this happened and they allowed me to uncover some additional problems.

The resolution of my tape recordings is 1920x1088 and this causes a thin white line to be displayed on the bottom of the screen when I create a native BD from the file. I ended up using multiAVCHD to crop the image to 1920x1080 and re-encode the video as H.264. The picture looks fine but a few of the files now have audio sync problems that have been difficult to resolve.

The i7 does a good job on the encoding process. It takes approximately the length of the original file to encode it in the new format. I just wish I had some better tools for fixing the audio problems.

vamovie
08-14-09, 02:36 PM
. I ended up using multiAVCHD to crop the image to 1920x1080 and re-encode the video as H.264. The picture looks fine but a few of the files now have audio sync problems that have been difficult to resolve.



how did u hooked up to the pc?(dumped the content to HD)
I mean usb or other source

audio sync problems:
maybe u can try these
use Tsremuxer or tsmuxer
multiavchd is very good program .but lately iam having problems with rendering the a/v while playing it back on bluray

JHL
08-14-09, 11:07 PM
how did u hooked up to the pc?(dumped the content to HD)
I mean usb or other source

audio sync problems:
maybe u can try these
use Tsremuxer or tsmuxer
multiavchd is very good program .but lately iam having problems with rendering the a/v while playing it back on bluray

I used a standard Firewire connection from my DVHS deck to a system running XP. I have had no luck at all with Vista or Windows 7. XP only works in certain configurations, there seems to be a relationship to SP2. You must run a release earlier than that. Check the thread on DVHS tools in the Computer area for more info. I don't know why my config stopped working.

I did use those mux tools but they did not help much. I am still amazed that the first disc worked so well.

paintit77
08-25-09, 05:02 PM
The RED BOOK standard for DVD is 16Mb/s max.
If you burn >16Mb/s AVCHD on DVDR, you blu-ray player will most likely not play it propery - expect stutter, or complete lock-up.

AVCHD is already up to 25Mb/s on many new camcorders.
Panasonic will also soon release a much higher AVCHD spec - 35MB/s is expected.

I have an HDV camcorder. I use Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD to edit the HDV footage and change the audio to Dolby Digital 5.1. It then saves the file as an MPEG2 Program Stream.
I then use Ulead Movie Factory 6 to convert the file to AVCHD encoded at 18 mbps (MAX) from the original 25 mbps. The disk has no menus, no chapters nothing but the film and it plays fine in All Panasonic Blu-Ray Players, Sony Blu-Ray players and the PS3. I have not found a solution that works when adding menus.
When I play it on my PC, it shows 18 mbps contant bit rate. I get 19 minutes of HD per single layer DVD+R. The draw back to this process is I lose some quality and the encoding time is 2 to 6 hours. When I did the same process for HD-DVD the process took 15 minutes because the files did not have to be re-encoded. HD-DVD liked the MPEG2 video, Blu-Ray does not.
Tim

MozartMan
08-25-09, 06:08 PM
I have an HDV camcorder. I use Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD to edit the HDV footage and change the audio to Dolby Digital 5.1. It then saves the file as an MPEG2 Program Stream.
I then use Ulead Movie Factory 6 to convert the file to AVCHD encoded at 18 mbps (MAX) from the original 25 mbps. The disk has no menus, no chapters nothing but the film and it plays fine in All Panasonic Blu-Ray Players, Sony Blu-Ray players and the PS3. I have not found a solution that works when adding menus.
When I play it on my PC, it shows 18 mbps contant bit rate. I get 19 minutes of HD per single layer DVD+R. The draw back to this process is I lose some quality and the encoding time is 2 to 6 hours. When I did the same process for HD-DVD the process took 15 minutes because the files did not have to be re-encoded. HD-DVD liked the MPEG2 video, Blu-Ray does not.
Tim
Here is the solution: multiAVCHD:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744
http://multiforum.deanbg.com/

I also have HDV camcorder Sony HDR-HC1. I don't re-encode video, just MPEG audio to AC3.

Try this.

1. Re-encode just MPEG audio track from you HDV .m2t file into .ac3 file with application that you have and that can do that. I use Vegas Pro 9.
2. De-mux your .m2t file into .m2v video stream and .mpa audio stream. I use VideoReDo for this.
3. Re-mux your .m2v video file and new .ac3 into .m2ts file. I use tsMuxeR.
4 Use multiAVCHD to author AVCHD on DVD R/RW or Blu-ray on BD-R/RE disk from that .m2ts file.

This way you will preserve original quality of you HDV video.

Works great for me.

PS3 is the only BD player that will play HDV video at 25 Mb/s from DVD media without stutter, or complete lock-up.

dargo
08-26-09, 12:04 AM
odd i can capture from my dvhs all day with vista running 32 bit can't see a reason for 64 bit, most software i use won't run under 64 bit so my new windows7 pc i'm building will stay 32 bit

JHL
08-26-09, 02:32 PM
What tools are you using for the DVHS capture?

I installed 32-bit Windows 7 on my old system and it does not work either.

I was able to get everything working with XP about 4 months ago but after my boot drive crashed I could not restore a working DVHS configuration. I tried ever combination of service pack and driver I could think of. It was really frustrating to be unable to discover what was wrong.

Using VLC is equally frustrating. The necessary functionality appears to be part of the program but it won't work in either system. Apparently there are no "Windows developers" available to investigate that issue so it is currently a dead end.

paintit77
08-26-09, 11:06 PM
Here is the solution: multiAVCHD:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744
http://multiforum.deanbg.com/

I also have HDV camcorder Sony HDR-HC1. I don't re-encode video, just MPEG audio to AC3.

Try this.

1. Re-encode just MPEG audio track from you HDV .m2t file into .ac3 file with application that you have and that can do that. I use Vegas Pro 9.
2. De-mux your .m2t file into .m2v video stream and .mpa audio stream. I use VideoReDo for this.
3. Re-mux your .m2v video file and new .ac3 into .m2ts file. I use tsMuxeR.
4 Use multiAVCHD to author AVCHD on DVD R/RW or Blu-ray on BD-R/RE disk from that .m2ts file.

This way you will preserve original quality of you HDV video.

Works great for me.

PS3 is the only BD player that will play HDV video at 25 Mb/s from DVD media without stutter, or complete lock-up.

Thanks MozartMan. I will give this a try. Are you able to get menus to work using this method? I have never figured out what the hoopla is with these AVCHD camcorders. I had the Canon for 5 minutes. They don't look as good as the HDV camcorders. Even with the offset pixels the HDV is still producing better quality HD than AVCHD. The load time is better with the AVCHD that records to a HDD or Memory but that is the only advantage.

Thanks again.
Tim

MozartMan
08-26-09, 11:18 PM
Are you able to get menus to work using this method?
Yes. multiAVCHD works great for me.

paintit77
08-28-09, 06:17 PM
Mozartman are you burning to BD-R media or DVD+R media?
Thank you.
Tim

MozartMan
08-28-09, 06:24 PM
Mozartman are you burning to BD-R media or DVD+R media?
Thank you.
Tim

I burned about 10 BD-Rs and 3 DVD+R DLs.

H3llT0uCh
10-23-09, 10:32 AM
Hi. I have an Canon HG20 camcorder and i record my videos at 24mbps 1920x1080.

Then I edit my clips and build with sony vegas a .m2t file at same bps of video.

I want to burn it in a DVD+R DL Verbatim

What is the best way?

Regards.

seggers
10-23-09, 10:47 AM
Hi. I have an Canon HG20 camcorder and i record my videos at 24mbps 1920x1080.

Then I edit my clips and build with sony vegas a .m2t file at same bps of video.

I want to burn it in a DVD+R DL Verbatim

What is the best way?

Regards.

What software are you using to burn the discs? Does the HG some with a basic editing package, and does that have the option?

If not, you're going to have find something that will burn your projects to an AVCHD DVD. SOmething like one of the ULead products, maybe the later Neros etc.

Seggers

H3llT0uCh
10-23-09, 11:08 AM
What software are you using to burn the discs? Does the HG some with a basic editing package, and does that have the option?

If not, you're going to have find something that will burn your projects to an AVCHD DVD. SOmething like one of the ULead products, maybe the later Neros etc.

Seggers


The problem is not really the burning it's more how to make the AVCHD structure.. I tried minutes ago with the tsRemux with the output format: BlueRay and at end it gave me an error about sound, but created it, if I play the file 00001.m2ts that it create in stream folder it's everithing ok.. but if i open the index.bdmv with Total Media Theather it won't play.. it get stuck.

It's because of sound? what sound format should i put?

The sony vegas have an template of BlueRay at 25mbps, should I try that?

Wryker
10-29-09, 10:53 AM
Ok - I've read through a bunch of these posts, searched several different ways using the AVS search and no luck but this look like the 'best' thread to post my query: I've ripped my first BD series (Pushing Daisies Season 2) however my question is since each episode rips individually - how do I burn the set of episodes to a BD-R? I can convert each file to an ISO however how can I combine them into one file so I can burn the set onto one BD-R disc?

MozartMan
10-29-09, 11:27 AM
Ok - I've read through a bunch of these posts, searched several different ways using the AVS search and no luck but this look like the 'best' thread to post my query: I've ripped my first BD series (Pushing Daisies Season 2) however my question is since each episode rips individually - how do I burn the set of episodes to a BD-R? I can convert each file to an ISO however how can I combine them into one file so I can burn the set onto one BD-R disc?

multiAVCHD should be your tool.

http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=129&sid=54eeda9826d4116e7f496f94e7ef0a11

Wryker
10-29-09, 11:34 AM
multiAVCHD should be your tool.

http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=129&sid=54eeda9826d4116e7f496f94e7ef0a11

Interesting - haven't used that before. I see http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/ as the place to begin...I clicked your link and, for some reason, it won't load.

MozartMan
10-29-09, 12:21 PM
Interesting - haven't used that before. I see http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/ as the place to begin...I clicked your link and, for some reason, it won't load.

I pasted here:

You can DRAG the folder with your m2ts files into multiAVCHD.

Put all .mt2s files there (and make sure that there are NO OTHER FILES in the folder). Drag it to multiAVCHD and a prompt will appear if you want to merge/join them.

Wryker
10-29-09, 12:24 PM
I pasted here:

Thanks -after a few tries it did load and I posted a question that was quickly answered! I'll be giving avchd a try this weekend for sure!

MozartMan
10-29-09, 12:40 PM
You can use tsMuxeR (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR) to convert .TS into .M2TS and then merge with multiAVCHD.

wco81
10-29-09, 12:52 PM
So you ripped a BD release in order to burn it to BD-R?

Why?

Don't the BD-R media cost a big chunk of what BD releases cost?

Mouw
11-07-09, 02:16 AM
Don't the BD-R media cost a big chunk of what BD releases cost?

BD-R costs have come down $1.50--$1.66 ea

zoro
11-07-09, 02:15 PM
BD-R costs have come down $1.50--$1.66 ea

where?

vamovie
11-07-09, 10:04 PM
In frys
they have 10 pack bd-r for 14.99

zoro
11-07-09, 10:11 PM
In frys
they have 10 pack bd-r for 14.99

Thanks. Are those DL? good quality or coasters mostly?:D

PeterTHX
11-08-09, 04:48 AM
In frys
they have 10 pack bd-r for 14.99


Hm, I was just at Frys where a Panasonic BD-R is $7.99 and a Sony is $8.99 (1 *one* each). A 5 pack was $32.99 for the Panasonics.

A 25 pack of Sony DVD+R DL was $29

vamovie
11-08-09, 07:54 AM
I went to frys yesterday in IL
picked up twice 10pack for 14.99 each
they are optimum
so far no coasters and they are single layer

Wryker
11-08-09, 09:56 AM
from eBay - BD-R DL - 10pack - $93.

Stanton
11-09-09, 05:48 PM
I went to frys yesterday in IL
picked up twice 10pack for 14.99 each
they are optimum
so far no coasters and they are single layer

That's approaching DVD+R DL pricing (about a buck a disc). However, you still need the BD burner. I've had good luck with AVCHD on a dual layer DVD, but I don't need it/do it much ($1+ per disc is still a lot no matter which media).

Tspeer
11-11-09, 11:03 AM
Can anyone recommend a good dual layer BD burner? I will initially be using it for Data backups, 50gb sounds good. (need to back up about 90gb of mp'3s).

Good brands of dual layer blanks?

I'm considering the Pioneer BDR-205BKS drive. Anyone have experience with this model?

Wryker
11-11-09, 11:21 AM
Can anyone recommend a good dual layer BD burner? I will initially be using it for Data backups, 50gb sounds good. (need to back up about 90gb of mp'3s).

Good brands of dual layer blanks?

I'm considering the Pioneer BDR-205BKS drive. Anyone have experience with this model?

I recently purchased the LG Electronics BH08LS20 which has several good reviews at Newegg and other sites.

wco81
11-11-09, 11:44 AM
You know 3-4 years ago, 50 GB sounded good for data backup.

But now, you might as well go with external hard disks for backup.

BD-R would make more sense as a distribution medium. Not to copy BD movies onto them (although while BD prices are high, some people are going to bother to burn movies) but for putting one's own HD video on discs to send to people.

DSLRs are getting 720p and even 1080p capabilities now. A couple of years from now, even smart phones will capture 720p video at least.

With more Blu-Ray players out there, there might be demand for people sending their HD home videos to friends and relatives.

lmenningen
11-12-09, 09:25 PM
...DSLRs are getting 720p and even 1080p capabilities now. A couple of years from now, even smart phones will capture 720p video at least.

With more Blu-Ray players out there, there might be demand for people sending their HD home videos to friends and relatives.Except the I'm being led to believe that the owners of the Blu-Ray spec are forbidding that, they are limiting Blu-Ray content to licensed content such as movies. The cost of a license is $30,000 per profile per year ($90,000 for all three profiles).

I'm also being led to believe that this explains why most Blu-Ray players will not play disks made by videographers; these disks don't have the Blue-Ray DRM keys (which is only obtainable by paying the license).

I, too, make videos and am trying to include Blu-Ray for HD playback, but alas, I can't find any standalone players that will play them (plays fine on a computer, and PSP3 is an exception). However, someone said the Blu-Ray spec DOES optionally allow for playing these disks, but the player manufacturers aren't incorporating it.

I use Adobe CS4 Production Premium which includes Premiere for the editing and Encore for the burning.

MozartMan
11-12-09, 09:33 PM
I, too, make videos and am trying to include Blu-Ray for HD playback, but alas, I can't find any standalone players that will play them (plays fine on a computer). HOwever, someone said the Blu-Ray spec DOES optionally allow for playing these disks, but the player manufacturers aren't incorporating it.
Something is wrong with your process. I can author Blu-ray disk using video from HDV and AVCHD camcorders with multiAVCHD, Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6+ with HD pack, and those BDs play perfectly on my PS3 and JVC stand alone player.

lmenningen
11-13-09, 08:24 PM
Something is wrong with your process. I can author Blu-ray disk using video from HDV and AVCHD camcorders with multiAVCHD, Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6+ with HD pack, and those BDs play perfectly on my PS3 and JVC stand alone player.

PS3 is a known exception - it has code explicitly permitting it to play non-DRM disks, but some other players don't. The ones I made play on the PS3, all have multi-level menus, video buttons, motion backgrounds, stuff than Encore CS4 provides, but they won't play on some stand alone players (fine on the computer's BR player, of course)

What is your JVC model? What would also be helpful would be a web site that identifies which players will and which won't, without trying each player brand and model.

One videographer reported on a forum that he went to BestBuy armed with disks and could find only one player of those he could try, that would play them. (I couldn't tell you when he went.)
The licensing and DRM issues only come up if you are ordering pressed discs from a replicator...Actually if you go to the licensing site it says one is not even allowed to slap the Blu-Ray logo on a disk without paying. But you're right if it's family, or even a wedding customer who gets only three copies, or anything that isn't distributed widely. At least that is the way it *should* be. But is it that way?...If you are using a professional tool like Scenarist to author you need to be careful that your discs are not set with the copy protection flag. This would indeed prevent playback. However this is not an issue with any consumer authoring tool. Since you're using Encore your problem lies elsewhere...OK, but I was told Blu-Ray doesn't have a copy protection flag like DVD's have. Indeed, I don't see a place in Encore to set it like it has for DVD's.
Some of the early players were physically incapable of playing BD-R so check into that too.My Sharp BD-HP20U claims to honor BD-R but someone on a forum somewhere said Sharp made an executive decision to not include code for playing non-DRM material. Is that true? Has anyone else heard that?

MozartMan
11-13-09, 08:35 PM
What is your JVC model?

JVC XV-BP1. Great player. It even plays MPEG2 HD from DVD disks authored as AVCHD disk (like PS3).

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1131998

mtallent
11-14-09, 10:47 AM
Somewhere on this forum is a thread showing a chart of the different players and what kind of disks they will play. The Sharp players were the few that would only play pressed disks. As I remember the Sony players played almost everything and the Panasonic's were also pretty good also, so don't use the Sharp players as a reference sample.

Mike T

StantonSteel
11-14-09, 07:04 PM
Alright Fellas,

So, here it is.

I have a 26" LCD for my computer which supports HDMI output, it is literally 2 feet away from my 42inch Vizo LCD HDMI ports, I use a ps3 as my Blu-ray Player, also just purchased a 3 piece Bose speaker system. Its time I tak advantage of all my components!

I just bought and installed Pioneer BDR-205 Blu Ray Burner:

It supports
12x BD-R, 12x BD-R DL, 2x BD-DE, 16x DVD+-R, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD+RW, 8x DVD+-R DL, 16x DVD-ROM, 40x CD-R, 24x CD-RW, 40x CD-ROM, SATA

I have 1 BD-RE which I bought to experiment with.

All of my media is in .MKV extensions.

I made an attempt to use "ImgBurn" in UDF and the film did not play on my ps3.

Questions:

1) Which software is suitable for MKV files?

2) Can I hook a HDMI cable between my LCDs and then play blu-ray on my computer which then will play on my 42'' through the HDMI cable without sacrifice quality of audio/video?

3) Anything else I should know/consider?

Remember Im a rookie, go easy! :rolleyes:


TIA!!!!

getme
11-15-09, 10:23 AM
http://tversity.com/

And you may want to post this in the HTPC or Home Theater Gaming areas of the forum for more and better responses.

MozartMan
11-15-09, 01:46 PM
Questions:

1) Which software is suitable for MKV files?

TIA!!!!

I would try multiAVCHD:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

raul124
11-17-09, 11:19 AM
I hope this the right forum to get help? If not IM sorry.

Hi Forum: I have tried all kinds of blu ray software combinations to burn the movie only to a 25GB R-DVD with no success. I like the Guide to blu-ray backup: by milOtis> and yes I have downloaded all the necessary software required to make this guide work. The truth is all would work except for BD_REBUILDER latest version. I have downloaded all the latest software from videohelp.com.

Sly soft anydvd hd purchased
Haali Media Splitter
Avisynth
FFdshow
Deamon Tools
ImBurn
Avchd-Patcher
BD-REBUILDER?

The problem with the BD-Rebuilder is when I extract it to the Desktop and the build
Folder with it components parts, I click on the BD-builder icon to run the software, a warning message pops up> Component ‘MSCOMCTI.OCX or one of its dependencies not correctly register: a file is missing or invalid<>and I can’t continue to use it. I have tried many different ways to get it running. I have uninstalled many times, I have uninstalled the other required software components to start the installation first with BD_Rebuilder or Uninstall it last and still it doesn’t make a different, that warning message pops up and I can’t use this software. I have built a brand new computer from brand new component parts and VISTA 32 bit O/S. I have used DVDFABHD and ANYDVDHD (purchased) but the dvdfabhd is only a trial version. The full version, costs a lot and I already pd for the other lifetime support…If this bug with BD-rebuilder continues to give me problems, could someone direct me to a better solution in burning from the HHD to a 25GBR-DVD. I would greatly appreciate it, plus a guide of how to make it work. Thanks a lot….Raul










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GRPHIC-------------------ASUS EAH4650 HD SILENT
CPU------------------------Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
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E/DRIVE-------------------Barracuda 7200.12 Hard Drive- 1TB
MEMORY-----------------OCZ SLI-Ready Dual Channel 1096MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Blu-ray- Burner &HD DVD-ROM Drive Model GGW_H20L LightScribe Support

Hef
11-17-09, 01:12 PM
go to the doom9.org forum and there's a bug report thread check for BD-Rebuilder at the end of the thread someone had your same problem and they'll tell you how to fix it .....

Laserfan
11-17-09, 05:06 PM
go to the doom9.org forum and there's a bug report thread check for BD-Rebuilder at the end of the thread someone had your same problem and they'll tell you how to fix it .....Indeed a new version's been posted there which I think may address the OCX problem.

densocasey
11-18-09, 02:09 AM
hello I have a question and I was wondering if someone could help me, I am trying to convert my mpv file into an vc1 file, but nothing happens I just get this.

C:\vc1conv> vc1conv C:\vc1conv\original_clip.mpv C:\vc1conv\converted_clip.mpv
vc1conv VC-1 Elementary Stream Converter 0.4
Sequence Header found
0 frames before first I-frame
Reserved Profile
Level = 1
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Horizontal size = 2310
Pulldown = 0
Interlace = 0
Aspect ratio = unspecifed
Forbidden Frame Rate!
Forbidden Frame Rate!
Frame Rate = -1.#10
frames = 0, running time 0:0:0.000000

can you tell me what I am doing wrong

clayface1000
11-18-09, 04:18 AM
Please forgive me if this has already been answered, but I've searched this thread and other sites, but can't find an answer to this problem.

I've been very successfully creating AVCHD discs to play in my Blu-ray player from MKV files. The files are often 2.35:1 aspect ratio 720P files, which come out to something like 1280x544. I run it through Ripbot to add the necessary lines to make it compliant (1280x720). Once it finishes reencoding, I run it through TSMuxer to create the AVCHD and then burn with Nero.

However, I cannot figure out how to make a proper AVCHD from a 1.33:1 (4x3) file. The native files are approximately 944x720 and no matter what I do, the final burned AVCHD comes out with no black bars on the side, but rather occupies the entire TV frame and is squashed and elongated. The procedure includes running it through Ripbot to make it a compliant 1280x720, then creating a final disc, after repeating the procedure above (authoring the AVCHD with TSMuxer and burning with Nero).

I've done everything including using Clipinf Editor to change the header information on the clipinfo file from 16x9 to 4x3. It yields no change. I've also used MKVToolnix to patch the actual MKV, forcing it be 4x3. But TSMuxer forces it back to being 16x9. Again, no matter what I do, the image is squashed.

I've been tinkering with this problem off and on for months and have never read a solution, which I'm sure is pretty simple.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

mtallent
11-18-09, 12:32 PM
Please forgive me if this has already been answered, but I've searched this thread and other sites, but can't find an answer to this problem.

I've been very successfully creating AVCHD discs to play in my Blu-ray player from MKV files. The files are often 2.35:1 aspect ratio 720P files, which come out to something like 1280x544. I run it through Ripbot to add the necessary lines to make it compliant (1280x720). Once it finishes reencoding, I run it through TSMuxer to create the AVCHD and then burn with Nero.

However, I cannot figure out how to make a proper AVCHD from a 1.33:1 (4x3) file. The native files are approximately 944x720 and no matter what I do, the final burned AVCHD comes out with no black bars on the side, but rather occupies the entire TV frame and is squashed and elongated. The procedure includes running it through Ripbot to make it a compliant 1280x720, then creating a final disc, after repeating the procedure above (authoring the AVCHD with TSMuxer and burning with Nero).

I've done everything including using Clipinf Editor to change the header information on the clipinfo file from 16x9 to 4x3. It yields no change. I've also used MKVToolnix to patch the actual MKV, forcing it be 4x3. But TSMuxer forces it back to being 16x9. Again, no matter what I do, the image is squashed.

I've been tinkering with this problem off and on for months and have never read a solution, which I'm sure is pretty simple.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

The correct image would be 16X9, 1280X720 with a 168 pixel wide black border on left and right. I have not used RipBot for awhile, can you see the avs resizing script and it should have "addborders(168,0,168,0)" to add a 168 pixel black border to the left and right sides of the image. If it has it this way, then there may be a bug somewhere in Ripbot as a HD image formatted as 4X3 is not to common. You would probably do better by asking on the Doom9.org forum in the RipBot thread.

Mike T

clayface1000
11-19-09, 01:36 AM
I really appreciate the help, mtallent. It's still not working, but I think you've pointed me in the right direction. I've followed your instructions, but for some reason, the results are the same (squashed picture). Perhaps it's because I'm running an old version of Ripbot.

I'll tinker again tomorrow and report back with my results. Thanks again.

clayface1000
11-19-09, 02:17 AM
Success! I tried one more time before going to bed and finally got it! I needed to download the latest version of Ripbot. Then, I had to set to custom size, but leaving the settings intact. This enabled a script for resizing and I just added the addborders in the same line which contained the 944x720 info.

I ran the finished MKV through TSMuxer and burned a perfect 1.33:1 AVCHD.

Thanks again for your help, mtallent. I honestly couldn't have figured this out without your very kind assistance.

mtallent
11-19-09, 10:44 AM
Great that you got it working, now I know how to do a 1.33:1 AVCHD if I ever need to do that someday. Happy to help as I got a lot of help myself.

Mike T

clayface1000
11-19-09, 02:44 PM
Mike, after your initial suggestions, what tripped me up was using an old version of Ripbot that wouldn't accept the "addborder" script. I thought it was something I was doing, but because you suggested that it might a Ripbot issue, I downloaded the latest version and it worked like a charm.

Might be nice for anyone else trying this to know that they should keep their freeware updated! Thanks again...

Stanton
11-20-09, 05:29 PM
I'm not sure why you have to run the RipBot output through TSMuxer before burning with Nero? I don't have to do this step (I just remove the offending directories for my particular Blu-Ray player).