I use BDInfo to get the episode info and the I use TSMuxerGUI and grab the two episodes I want and mux them. When finished I get a single .m2ts file which I can play on my PC fine. However, when I burn it using BDInfo and play it in my PS3 it doesn't work.

Does ayone have any thoughts as to why this is the case? Does anyone have any guides or suggestions as to how I can get this to work? TIA!

no idea, but why on earth would you combine them? use multiavchd to put them on disc instead, that way you get them as separate files and can even add chaptermarks.

no idea, but why on earth would you combine them? use multiavchd to put them on disc instead, that way you get them as separate files and can even add chaptermarks.

What an idiot. I knew I had used a piece of software about 6 months ago that did this but I couldn't remeber what it was. I just used it and was able to burn a disk just fine. Thanks for jogging my memory!

What an idiot. I knew I had used a piece of software about 6 months ago that did this but I couldn't remeber what it was. I just used it and was able to burn a disk just fine. Thanks for jogging my memory!

does this work with vc1 files

will the playstaion 3 play bde's

will the playstaion 3 play bde's

Did you mean BD-REs? If yes, then yes.

I have been shrinking my BDMV files (Copies with anydvd and dvd fab) with BD Rebuilder. Everything works perfectly, but I need to put spanish subtitles on the disc. For some reason, even though I specified to put the subs in, the final file only has english subs.

Question: It took a long time to shrink these to a DVD size, so I was wondering if there is any way to take the 4gb file and add the subs directly and if there is somewhere I can download them.

Thanks.

ENCORE CS4 and LG BD-390

Recently I burned a BD-R using Adobe Encore CS4. The (Memorex) discs play perfectly on my old Phillips 9000 and a Samsung 1500, but give an "ERROR" message when attempting playback on the LG BD-390. The LG WILL play a disc authored with Final Cut without incident, so is this a known issue with Encore and the LG players?

Any input would be appreciated.
Ben Hardy
H & G REcorded Productions

ENCORE CS4 and LG BD-390

Recently I burned a BD-R using Adobe Encore CS4. The (Memorex) discs play perfectly on my old Phillips 9000 and a Samsung 1500, but give an "ERROR" message when attempting playback on the LG BD-390. The LG WILL play a disc authored with Final Cut without incident, so is this a known issue with Encore and the LG players?

Any input would be appreciated.
Ben Hardy
H & G REcorded Productions

Ben,

Did you just author with Encore, or author+burn with it?
If you authored+burned with Encore I think it is more of Encore issue rather than LG player.
Are you on Mac or Windows?
If you are on Windows you can try ImgBurn http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ImgBurn
It is the best burning application in the world.

MozartMan

Thanks for your help. After posting this, I checked with the provider (relative) of the "Final Cut" authored discs and learned that one of them had been burned using CS4.
He suggested that it might be a media problem (Memorex Branded BD-R), so I ordered three different brands of media and hope that one of them will play on the LG 390.
I'm using WinXP and Adobe CS4 Premiere and Encore. Yes, I author and burn using Encore. I'll certainly give ImgBurn a try, as you suggested.

Thanks again for your advise,
Ben

MozartMan,

You Nailed It! I burned the Image File with ImgBurn as you suggested and presto, it played perfectly!

Thank you so much and Merry Christmas,
Ben

MozartMan,

You Nailed It! I burned the Image File with ImgBurn as you suggested and presto, it played perfectly!

Thank you so much and Merry Christmas,
Ben

You are welcome Ben, and Merry Christmas to you too.

ImgBurn is the only burning application I use now.

Mozart, on BD-R 25gb media, I burned a high bitrate h.264 with DVD Architect at 35 mbps, that according to my PS3 occasionally peaks all the way up to 45-50 mbps.

The PS3 has no problem playing it perfectly, and the average bit rate does hover around the targeted 35 mbps, whereas I think 40 mbps should be possible but the question I have, is will the other standalone Blu-ray players (that support BD-R writable media) have any issues at these higher bit rates with writable media? As you recall, we ran into the situation on regular DVD media (AVCHD or hybrids) where the PS3 could accept much higher bit rates, that would choke the standalone players.

Do you know if that issue is relevant to BD-R media (for those players that support BD-R)?

I've got an XDCAM collaboration (80 minutes) that I don't want to burn boatloads of coasters because I didn't test it on other players besides my PS3. Do you have any thoughts about that?

And Merry Christmas...:)

Tom

Mozart, on BD-R 25gb media, I burned a high bitrate h.264 with DVD Architect at 35 mbps, that according to my PS3 occasionally peaks all the way up to 45-50 mbps.

The PS3 has no problem playing it perfectly, and the average bit rate does hover around the targeted 35 mbps, whereas I think 40 mbps should be possible but the question I have, is will the other standalone Blu-ray players (that support BD-R writable media) have any issues at these higher bit rates with writable media? As you recall, we ran into the situation on regular DVD media (AVCHD or hybrids) where the PS3 could accept much higher bit rates, that would choke the standalone players.
Do you know if that issue is relevant to BD-R media (for those players that support BD-R)?
I've got an XDCAM collaboration (80 minutes) that I don't want to burn boatloads of coasters because I didn't test it on other players besides my PS3. Do you have any thoughts about that?

And Merry Christmas...:)

Tom
Hi Tom,

Yes, I recall that. That issue was with DVD media and MPEG2 video authored as AVCHD hybrid. But this is because MPEG2 is not a part of AVCHD standard (which is 24Mb/s maximum). Blu-ray players are not suppose to play MPEG2 from DVD authored as AVCHD. It was up to manufacturer to allow doing that. I know only two BD players (I have both) that can do that: PS3 and JVC XV-BP1 (may be there are some others that I don’t know about). Btw, that JVC (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1131998) is a great standalone player. But PS3 is still the only BD player that could handle my HDV footage from DVD media. Even JVC was stuttering sometimes playing HDV at 25 Mb/s.

I don’t think you are going to have issues with other standalone Blu-ray players playing high bit rates AVC/h.264 video from BD-R or BD-RE because it is in BD specs to handle MPEG2/AVC/VC1 video up to 40+ Mb/s.

Buy one BD-RE disk, author and burn test project and try in the store with other standalone BD players.

And Merry Christmas to you too.

Great! Thanks!

BD-R 25gb disk, authored to BDMV with Sony DVD Architect 5.

Plays perfectly in PS3, not at all in brand new Sony BDPS360 standalone Blu-ray player. Gives following blue screen error, "Not supported."

The online owners manual for the BDPS360 says it supports BD-R/RE media with BDMV authoring, but makes the following vague disclaimers:

Some BD-REs/BD-Rs, DVD+RWs/DVD+Rs,
DVD-RWs/DVD-Rs, or CD-Rs/CD-RWs cannot
be played on this player due to the recording
quality or physical condition of the disc, or the
characteristics of the recording device and
authoring software. The BD-Rs recorded on a PC
cannot be played if postscripts are recordable.

Your player has a region code printed on the
rear of the unit and will only play BD-ROMs/
DVD VIDEOs (playback only) labeled with
identical region codes. This system is used to
protect copyrights.
DVD VIDEOs labeled will also play on
this player.
Depending on the BD-ROM/DVD VIDEO,
no region code may be indicated even though
playing the BD-ROM/DVD VIDEO is
prohibited by area restrictions.

What a hassle to have to sort this out. Confidence is low. The PS3 has to be the least reliable platform for testing because everything that works on it, seems hit and miss to work on anything else.

BD-R 25gb disk, authored to BDMV with Sony DVD Architect 5.

Plays perfectly in PS3, not at all in brand new Sony BDPS360 standalone Blu-ray player. Gives following blue screen error, "Not supported."

The online owners manual for the BDPS360 says it supports BD-R/RE media with BDMV authoring, but makes the following vague disclaimers:

Some BD-REs/BD-Rs, DVD+RWs/DVD+Rs,
DVD-RWs/DVD-Rs, or CD-Rs/CD-RWs cannot
be played on this player due to the recording
quality or physical condition of the disc, or the
characteristics of the recording device and
authoring software. The BD-Rs recorded on a PC
cannot be played if postscripts are recordable.

Your player has a region code printed on the
rear of the unit and will only play BD-ROMs/
DVD VIDEOs (playback only) labeled with
identical region codes. This system is used to
protect copyrights.
DVD VIDEOs labeled will also play on
this player.
Depending on the BD-ROM/DVD VIDEO,
no region code may be indicated even though
playing the BD-ROM/DVD VIDEO is
prohibited by area restrictions.

What a hassle to have to sort this out. Confidence is low. The PS3 has to be the least reliable platform for testing because everything that works on it, seems hit and miss to work on anything else.

Actually, I beg to differ on this. The PS3 is the *Best* unit to test with, because at least you can see if it rendered or not.

There are known issues with SA players not being able to play any BD/R or R/Ws, just like some DVD players wouldn't play DVDs that were burnt. (and remember the fun with the - or + types and some players that wouldn't read them?

And if it works on a PS3, then why worry about anything else? :)

Seggers

I'll try re-burning with a Verbatim BD-R, to see if a quality media is the difference.

I'll try re-burning with a Verbatim BD-R, to see if a quality media is the difference.

What do you use for burning?
DVDA was never a reliable burning tool.

What do you use for burning?
DVDA was never a reliable burning tool.

Good point, I used Nero Burning ROM V.8 to burn a DVDA iso image:

- No multisession
- Manual Settings
- Blu-ray UDF 2.5 file system
- Physical Media Type

I'll retry with ImgBurn.

In the end, there was nothing wrong with my media, authoring or burning. I went out and purchased another BDP-S360 Sony Blu-ray player, and it had no trouble playing any of the disks. What a frustration! I don't know what was wrong with the other one, it belongs to a friend, but this one handles everything fine. Sorry for the bother!

I will add that I am now using ImgBurn. It is a great burning app, and actually allowed my LG burner to burn BD-RE at 2.4x (for the first time), before I couldn't go past 1x even after full erase of the disk, so I am going forward with it and not looking back at Nero.

I will add that I am now using ImgBurn. It is a great burning app, and actually allowed my LG burner to burn BD-RE at 2.4x (for the first time), before I couldn't go past 1x even after full erase of the disk, so I am going forward with it and not looking back at Nero.
Yeah, ImgBurn is the best burning application in the world. I don't use Nero for almost a year now.

The first BDB-S360 Sony Blu-ray player that would not play the BD-R/RE disks, is now playing them fine. I don't know what was bricked, but doing a system reset from the menu cleared the problem, plays the disks fine now.

Hi there !

Some Blue Ray movies are about just more than 25Gb.
Is there some software like DvdShrink for Blue, to be able to build the same Blue Ray but without some unused sound tracks (and eventually by compressing a bit the video), so that it can be burned in a 25Gb blue ray disc ?

Thank you for any answers

Hi there !

Some Blue Ray movies are about just more than 25Gb.
Is there some software like DvdShrink for Blue, to be able to build the same Blue Ray but without some unused sound tracks (and eventually by compressing a bit the video), so that it can be burned in a 25Gb blue ray disc ?

Thank you for any answers

Ok i have a begin of answer to myself :
DVDFab to decrypt and shrink (but i have problems with it)

Hello,
I have a problem with DVDFab (6.0.4.0, 28/07/2009) full version (with HD decrypter) :
it is ok for DVD but it seems to have problems to open the blue ray : first time done automaticaly : nothing is displayed, and second time it "open source" but this never ends..
I have an LG BH08LS20.
Any idea ?

[ btw, is there anybody here ? this thread seems dead but then, where do we speak about blue ray software ? ]

People are still about. However, a couple of things:

It's Blu Ray.
Ripping of said is actually illegal in the US. Making of your own from your own sources is not....

Seggers

Some Blue Ray movies are about just more than 25Gb

read some OLD posts:

more about AnyDVD (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16329601&highlight=#post16329601)


Compressing BluRay (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16194013&highlight=#post16194013)


Mux/DeMux m2ts files -- tsMuxer (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16090914&highlight=#post16090914)


Making and Burning Images --> BD-R (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16194054&highlight=#post16194054)

[...]
BD_Rebuilder SHRINKS movie OR whole-disc -> DVD5/9 & BD-R (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716)

Hello,
I i have tried BD Rebuilder (v 0.31.06 beta) in "full backup" mode (just suppress one one the 2 DTS MA sound tracks) from hard disk folder (from dvdFab) to hard disk folder and here is what he says :
"
- Input BD size: 26,89 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:24:44.926]
- Target BD size: 22,46 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Resuming from previously started job.
[18:47:49] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [18:47:49] Reencoding: VID_00007 (1 of 7)
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Encode failed. Retrying.
- Reached retry limit. Aborting.
- FFDSHOW Revision: (3128)
[18:47:51] - Failed video encode, aborted
"
Have you any idea of the problem ? And why does he want to encode something ? I just want to suppress one of the 2 sound tracks.
Thanks

have been using this persons procedure for all of my bd backups of my purchased bd's,have not had one failure in 5 different bd players including ps3,i use memorex bd from frys,try it out.props to "Otis"
http://www.corusa.com/public/Blu-Ray_Backup_Guide_milOtis.pdf

Anyone authoring for the new 3D Blu-ray (Multiview Video Coding) yet?

After being using $2 blu-ray blank media from ebay my GGW-H20L now is not reading media even DVD it just grinds back and forth like a hacksaw but nothing happens, tried to clean the lenses with cleaning disc but didn't help, is it realy using cheap media can physically harm the drive?

...using cheap media can physically harm the drive?I'm inclined to respond "no way" except I suppose if the media is bad enough and the drive thrashes-about trying to write and then trying to verify (like for hours) then it could wear the thing out. But you would notice, wouldn't you, if burning/verifying a disc took forever.

What do you use to burn--if ImgBurn its logs will tell you everything...

People are still about. However, a couple of things:

It's Blu Ray.
Ripping of said is actually illegal in the US. Making of your own from your own sources is not....

Seggers

Well I am not in the US but I am not sure of the local laws in my country. I haven't got a BD burner (yet) but every now and then I have had to rip a BD since it is a region my PS3 can't play. But rather than try to rip to BD I just rip to a HD, compress the video (I normally leave the HD audio alone) and mux back to a m2ts file that I can author to a AVCHD file and burn onto DL DVD media.

There is slight PQ loss of course since the video stream that was 20G+ is now about 9G but it's very watchable, the audio is pristine and I can watch it!

I'm inclined to respond "no way" except I suppose if the media is bad enough and the drive thrashes-about trying to write and then trying to verify (like for hours) then it could wear the thing out. But you would notice, wouldn't you, if burning/verifying a disc took forever.

What do you use to burn--if ImgBurn its logs will tell you everything...

You're right I just rebooted my computer and the problem went away, I use TSMuxer to create Blu-ray image and use Roxio 2010 to burn to BD-R, yeah those cheap media work better than a Sony brand plus they are inkjet printable. I was stupid bought a Sony BD-R few months ago for $12 and ruined it right away.

You're right I just rebooted my computer and the problem went away, I use TSMuxer to create Blu-ray image and use Roxio 2010 to burn to BD-R, yeah those cheap media work better than a Sony brand plus they are inkjet printable. I was stupid bought a Sony BD-R few months ago for $12 and ruined it right away.

Man I am elling if u r thinking that media is cheap and using it for burning
u r doomed
especially memorex bd-r
I would stay away from memorex bd-r

have backed up 50+ bd's using memorex bd- from frys,have not had one faill!has worked in ps3,lg,insignia and sharp,I buy them at frys on sale for 24$ for 15 discs.

Guys, I know somewhere in this forum this has been discussed but I cannot find what I'm looking for. I use one of the sony HD camcorders for recording home movies and I would like to burn those movies to Blu Ray to retain HD picture quality. I've purchased the LG 8X external Blu Ray burning drive and now I'm wondering what else I need, besides the discs. Am I right to assume I need special software to burn to blu ray? If so, I'm looking at Roxio Creator Pro 2010, 123 Media Max, and Cyberlink Media Suite 8. Any reviews of each or recommendations? Anything else I should know? Thanks in advance

Guys, I know somewhere in this forum this has been discussed but I cannot find what I'm looking for. I use one of the sony HD camcorders for recording home movies and I would like to burn those movies to Blu Ray to retain HD picture quality. I've purchased the LG 8X external Blu Ray burning drive and now I'm wondering what else I need, besides the discs. Am I right to assume I need special software to burn to blu ray? If so, I'm looking at Roxio Creator Pro 2010, 123 Media Max, and Cyberlink Media Suite 8. Any reviews of each or recommendations? Anything else I should know? Thanks in advance
You need authoring and burning software.
If you don't want authoring software to re-encode your video you need to try multiAVCHD: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/multiAVCHD.
For burning use ImgBurn: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ImgBurn. It is the best burning software.

Both are free. That's what I sue. Works great for me.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure I understand what "authorinng to re-encode your video" means. Is this something I'm going to want to do? I apologize for not really understanding but I am just getting started.

Presumably when you say you wish to "burn to blu-ray" you want to make discs that are playable on a BD set-top player. If that is the case then your home movies need to be formatted in a special way in order to have a file structure that set-top players will recognize and play, not to mention the additional complexity of making menus to select "titles" or chapters to skip to "scenes" in your movies.

If all you want to do is archive your videos "as-is" for playback on your PC then you don't need to author--just burn as data discs using ImgBurn.

I suspect though that it's multiAVCHD that you want.

You are correct. I want to be able to playback movies via BD players. Therefore you've answered my question, I will need to use authoring software. Is there any benefit in spending money on the Roxio Creator Pro software over the free stuff? Will it make my job harder or easier?

I just bought the Lg wh08ls20. Is this a good burner? Is so can someone direct me to a get tutorial on backing up my collection of BDs.

I have a canon hg20 camcorder and I want to burn 55gb of avchd video to dual layer dvds , in avchd format, for viewing on a bluray dvd player.

What is the simplest way to do this?

P.S. the canon software is useless

Here are my specs
Core i7 920
2 250gb hardrives
9gb ddr3 trichannel 1600mhz ram
8800gts 512 graphics card

Someone on this forum suggested total media extreme, but it has the same results as the canon software, it has a long pause in between scenes instead of a seamless transition.

Thank You

I have a canon hg20 camcorder and I want to burn 55gb of avchd video to dual layer dvds , in avchd format, for viewing on a bluray dvd player.

What is the simplest way to do this?

P.S. the canon software is useless

Here are my specs
Core i7 920
2 250gb hardrives
9gb ddr3 trichannel 1600mhz ram
8800gts 512 graphics card

Someone on this forum suggested total media extreme, but it has the same results as the canon software, it has a long pause in between scenes instead of a seamless transition.

Thank You

Try multiAVCHD: http://www.videohelp.com/tools/multiAVCHD

Resources:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744
http://multiforum.deanbg.com

Maybe someone can help me. I have a LG 25Gb BD-RE disc that's been giving me jip recently.

It has worked flawlessly in the past, but of late has been nothing than a PITA. Every time I try to either burn with it, or format it, I get - from Nero 8 - that it's an illegal disk.

Does anyone know of a way to force format the thing or it is deader than the do-do's?

And I was just getting to grips with the BD backup guide too....

Seggers

Try to use the disc instead with (free) ImgBurn. A much better burning app that you should be using anyway.

I have a MKV file that I want to make into a Blu Ray movie and everything seems to go ok but when I burn it using IMG Burn and play it on my Blu Ray player I get sound but a blank screen. I thought that maybe it was NTSC as I am UK so I changed setting on player to NTSC but still blank picture.

What am I doing wrong?

My player is a BMP-DB35

Try to use the disc instead with (free) ImgBurn. A much better burning app that you should be using anyway.

Ditto that. ImgBurn is the best burning application out there. And new version was just released yesterday. I don't use Nero any more.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ImgBurn

Try to use the disc instead with (free) ImgBurn. A much better burning app that you should be using anyway.

Ditto that. ImgBurn is the best burning application out there. And new version was just released yesterday. I don't use Nero any more.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/ImgBurn

Chaps,

Great answer, but doesn't help me much. Is the disk toast, or how can I get imageburn to format it? I couldn't find that option on the version I had.

Seggers

...how can I get imageburn to format it?

The program is "ImgBurn" and you should have at least 2.5.0 if not latest (2.5.1 I think). Open the app and from the Mode menu select Build. In the middle of the window you choose your drive as "Destination" and the tab Device on the right will give info about it.

But it's the tiny disc icon (with the red on it) below-left of the Destination drop-down that is the Erase button. Give that a go on your rewriteable disc.

The program is "ImgBurn" and you should have at least 2.5.0 if not latest (2.5.1 I think). Open the app and from the Mode menu select Build. In the middle of the window you choose your drive as "Destination" and the tab Device on the right will give info about it.

But it's the tiny disc icon (with the red on it) below-left of the Destination drop-down that is the Erase button. Give that a go on your rewriteable disc.

Well, cheers for that. Looks like the disc is toast. I keep getting the below errors with it even on 2.5.0.0 of ImgBurn.

Seggers

W 20:06:50 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 0/4) - Internal Target Failure
E 20:06:52 Failed to Erase Disc! - Reason: Internal Target Failure
E 20:06:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:22

I own the trilogy of the pirates of the Caribbean(blu Ray). I want to back it up but I get an error with dvdfab. Has anyone been sucessfull backing these up. If so what did u use? I have backed up all my whole collection and all have worked but these blu rays

I have a MKV file that I want to make into a Blu Ray movie and everything seems to go ok but when I burn it using IMG Burn and play it on my Blu Ray player I get sound but a blank screen. I thought that maybe it was NTSC as I am UK so I changed setting on player to NTSC but still blank picture.

What am I doing wrong?

My player is a BMP-DB35

what program are you using to author the disc, it must be authored before you can burn it

what program are you using to author the disc, it must be authored before you can burn it

I thought all I would have to use would be TSMuxer. What other software do I Need??

Well, cheers for that. Looks like the disc is toast. I keep getting the below errors with it even on 2.5.0.0 of ImgBurn.

Seggers

W 20:06:50 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0%, 0/4) - Internal Target Failure
E 20:06:52 Failed to Erase Disc! - Reason: Internal Target Failure
E 20:06:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:22

Well I have a similar problem with the same type of BD-RE except IMG BURN gives me a response "ILLEGAL COMMAND" along with a bunch of other diagnostics. If I try using Windows (7) to format the disk it fails, if I try to use Nero it fails. For the price of the BD-RE's they should last a lot longer!! I reused it maybe 8 times. It has no scratches.:mad:

I thought all I would have to use would be TSMuxer. What other software do I Need??

tsmuxer is doing the authoring when you load the mkv file what type of video is it telling you your file is in? under the input tab look at source file

I am using MultiAVCHD to make a compilation BD-R of recorded WWII footage and have followed the online tutorial but I cannot get it to play on my Blu Ray Player.

Here are my steps.

1. Start MultiAVCHD
2. Click on AVCDH/BDMV/DVD Folders Tab and add 10 .mkv files.
3. Author Tab has Stricter AVCDH Folder Format Ticked.
4. Everything else left as default.
5. Click Start
6. Let it build the folders BDMV, CERTIFICATE, HDAVCTN & files details.txt, multiAVCHD.log, multiAVCHD.mpf.
7. Burn all folders and files with IMGBURN
8. Put BD-R in BD Player and looks like it is going to play but then just stops.

Have I missed something here? My BD Player is a Panason DMP-BD35

I am using MultiAVCHD to make a compilation BD-R of recorded WWII footage and have followed the online tutorial but I cannot get it to play on my Blu Ray Player.

Here are my steps.

1. Start MultiAVCHD
2. Click on AVCDH/BDMV/DVD Folders Tab and add 10 .mkv files.
3. Author Tab has Stricter AVCDH Folder Format Ticked.
4. Everything else left as default.
5. Click Start
6. Let it build the folders BDMV, CERTIFICATE, HDAVCTN & files details.txt, multiAVCHD.log, multiAVCHD.mpf.
7. Burn all folders and files with IMGBURN
8. Put BD-R in BD Player and looks like it is going to play but then just stops.

Have I missed something here? My BD Player is a Panason DMP-BD35

You need to choose author it to bd-r not avchd option
since you are using bd-r
Good luck

You need to choose author it to bd-r not avchd option
since you are using bd-r
Good luck

How do I author it to BD-R? I can't find that option in Author!

How do I author it to BD-R? I can't find that option in Author!

IMGBurn was set to UDF 2.5 and the .mkv files are 720p. If I just author it and set a destination folder it always automatically adds AVCHD Folder after my chosen location.

How do I author it to BD-R? I can't find that option in Author!

After you click Start button select For All Blu-ray Players button.

After you click Start button select For All Blu-ray Players button.

Why does it always add AVCHD to my destination path?

Why does it always add AVCHD to my destination path?

Don't worry about that. AVCHD folder represents root of BD-R disk. If you check Use ImgBurn with DVD/BD-R output option it Settings, ImgBurn will take care of it.

Don't worry about that. AVCHD folder represents root of BD-R disk. If you check Use ImgBurn with DVD/BD-R output option it Settings, ImgBurn will take care of it.

Update on my problem!

Strangest thing is I used the Create AVCHD Stricter mode and NOT any Blu Ray Player and burned the files and hey presto all is fine! Happy Days, I just wish I didin't have 10 coasters sitting around here. Wrap em' up for chrimbo prezzies I think!

But why wont the Any Blu Ray Player option work? very strange!

But why wont the Any Blu Ray Player option work? very strange!A little searching would have warned you in advance that Panny players are very quirky/demanding...

A little searching would have warned you in advance that Panny players are very quirky/demanding...

You know how it is, your in a shop you are looking around and all of a sudden you start looking at gadgets and decided there and then that I wanted a Blu Ray Player but at the time BD-R Discs where still mega expensive and didn't think about the future and maybe creating my own Blu Ray Discs. Live and learn!

Ok I have the video sorted but I know have a sound issue.

I have 2 .mp4 files with AAC 6ch audio and 1 .mkv file with the same AAC 6ch audio. Once compiled and played back I can have sound on the first movie but on the 2nd and 3rd movies there is no sound. This was all played back through CyberLink PowerDVD 10.

In the Sub/Audio Tab and under the Audio Conversion Settings section I have the following:

Use eac3to (Ticked)
TrueHD/DTS-MA/HR 640kbps AC3 (Ticked)
Non-HD Audio to AC3 bitrate 384
AAC channel remapping 1,2,3,4,5

Everything else (Unticked)

Why will it play one movie's audio but not the other two?

Also I am getting this error from TSMuxeR that only happens with 1 .mkv file "Unsupported media type 15 for AVCHD/Blu-ray muxing"

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 29.9701
H.264 manual setted fps not equal stream fps. Change H.264 fps from 29.9701 to 30
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AAC stream (track 2): Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 162828 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist

Hey guys hoping you could help me understand what's going on w/ this issue :

I've done a few successful backups using BD Rebuilder. Both dvd5 and BDR 25 methods are working great. All have been movie only method. Terminator Salvation on the other hand is giving me trouble. First using BD Rebuilder I can't seem to rip movie only. Second, the files are multiple after the rip. Unlike ,for instance, Max Payne is one file after backing up. Third it takes forever to convert/rip even to 25 GB. Is there something about this disc or am I doing something wrong? Are their other BD that will be hard to rip like this?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Hey guys hoping you could help me understand what's going on w/ this issue :

I've done a few successful backups using BD Rebuilder. Both dvd5 and BDR 25 methods are working great. All have been movie only method. Terminator Salvation on the other hand is giving me trouble. First using BD Rebuilder I can't seem to rip movie only. Second, the files are multiple after the rip. Unlike ,for instance, Max Payne is one file after backing up. Third it takes forever to convert/rip even to 25 GB. Is there something about this disc or am I doing something wrong? Are their other BD that will be hard to rip like this?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

What are you using to remove the encryption?

What are you using to remove the encryption?I apologize..Any DVD HD.

I apologize..Any DVD HD.

Any reason you're not using ToNMT for your rips? Is 'size' an issue (meaning fitting the entire movie on a 25GB BD)? I rip all my BD's & HDDVD's using ToNMT and it automatically finds the streams and creates them as one file (.ts or .m2ts). If need be, I could use ClownBD to get them to fit on smaller disc. If you're not familiar with ToNMT http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=1786

Any reason you're not using ToNMT for your rips? Is 'size' an issue (meaning fitting the entire movie on a 25GB BD)? I rip all my BD's & HDDVD's using ToNMT and it automatically finds the streams and creates them as one file (.ts or .m2ts). If need be, I could use ClownBD to get them to fit on smaller disc. If you're not familiar with ToNMT http://www.networkedmediatank.com/showthread.php?tid=1786Thanks. I'll give it a try. Like I mentioned the process I'm using is working fine until Terminator Salvation. It's not even that it's a must have movie. Now it's a war of attrition :p. Just wanted to be able to figure out how work with such BD's if I come across them. Thanks again. Will post again if it's successful or not.

Now I have a MPEG TS(20GB) file. How do I burn that back to a BD-R so i plays and is recognized in a stand alone Blu Ray player?

Now I have a MPEG TS(20GB) file. How do I burn that back to a BD-R so i plays and is recognized in a stand alone Blu Ray player?

Rocket,

Follow the link and follow the PDF. I've used it to do BD copies of just the film and HD sound track.

Remember to go into the settings tab and check the BD only tabs and change the configurable value (under the BD25 option) to be 50Gb.

Seggers

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18052998#post18052998

I created a blu-ray disc from an MKV file using TsMuxer and output as blu-ray disc and burned as data using roxio on DVD9 disc, when played on my laptop blu-ray player it was detected as BDMV but my PS3 detected it as data disc, when browsing to the stream folder it plays the video but no sound at all, here is the details:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 7.00 GiB
Duration : 1h 28mn
Overall bit rate : 11.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 1h 28mn
Bit rate : 9 315 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 092 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 040 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Writing library : x264 core 88 r1471 1144615
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=9092 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.0
Language : English

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 1h 28mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Language : English

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 1h 28mn
Language : English

The PS3 won't play m2ts files with DTS audio unless they are in the AVCHD format. That means the source folder name has to be AVCHD and the disk has to be in UDF 2.5 format. I have found the best tool to do that is multiavchd

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/

If you can browse through the folder on the disk, it's in the wrong format. If it's formatted correctly once you insert the disc it comes up as AVCHD and starts to play the title in the STREAM folder or brings up a menu if authored with the tool above.

The PS3 won't play m2ts files with DTS audio unless they are in the AVCHD format. That means the source folder name has to be AVCHD and the disk has to be in UDF 2.5 format. I have found the best tool to do that is multiavchd

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/

If you can browse through the folder on the disk, it's in the wrong format. If it's formatted correctly once you insert the disc it comes up as AVCHD and starts to play the title in the STREAM folder or brings up a menu if authored with the tool above.

Can you tel me how the setting suppose to be on tsMuxerGUI, because I've done so many discs with it and never got a problem, I may have changed something lately on the program?

Can you tel me how the setting suppose to be on tsMuxerGUI, because I've done so many discs with it and never got a problem, I may have changed something lately on the program?

You can also use ClownBD to make a BD that's compatible in BD players.

Thanks. I'll give it a try. Like I mentioned the process I'm using is working fine until Terminator Salvation. It's not even that it's a must have movie. Now it's a war of attrition :p. Just wanted to be able to figure out how work with such BD's if I come across them. Thanks again. Will post again if it's successful or not.

If the software ToNMT doesn't work
then you need re-encrypt the moive again
It was known to be bd+ and at that time of release the anydvd HD uses old hashfiles and then they updated it
And it works fine since then
try encrypt again with original movie

I created a blu-ray disc from an MKV file using TsMuxer and output as blu-ray disc and burned as data using roxio on DVD9 disc, when played on my laptop blu-ray player it was detected as BDMV but my PS3 detected it as data disc, when browsing to the stream folder it plays the video but no sound at all, here is the details:
General
ID : 1
Complete name : F:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : BluRay Video
File size : 7.00 GiB
Duration : 1h 28mn
Overall bit rate : 11.3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Duration : 1h 28mn
Bit rate : 9 315 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 092 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 040 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Writing library : x264 core 88 r1471 1144615
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / wpredp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc=2pass / mbtree=0 / bitrate=9092 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.0
Language : English

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Duration : 1h 28mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Resolution : 24 bits
Language : English

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Video delay : 1h 28mn
Language : English

I noticed that the resolution is 1920x1040 and audio is dts
i would recommend you to use uncropMKV and ran it thru and then burn it disc
let see if that takes cares of the problem

Ok I have the video sorted but I know have a sound issue.

I have 2 .mp4 files with AAC 6ch audio and 1 .mkv file with the same AAC 6ch audio. Once compiled and played back I can have sound on the first movie but on the 2nd and 3rd movies there is no sound. This was all played back through CyberLink PowerDVD 10.

In the Sub/Audio Tab and under the Audio Conversion Settings section I have the following:

Use eac3to (Ticked)
TrueHD/DTS-MA/HR 640kbps AC3 (Ticked)
Non-HD Audio to AC3 bitrate 384
AAC channel remapping 1,2,3,4,5
I would recommend use multiavchd to create a bd-r disc inorder to play it
Everything else (Unticked)

Why will it play one movie's audio but not the other two?

Also I am getting this error from TSMuxeR that only happens with 1 .mkv file "Unsupported media type 15 for AVCHD/Blu-ray muxing"

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 29.9701
H.264 manual setted fps not equal stream fps. Change H.264 fps from 29.9701 to 30
H264 bitstream changed: insert nal unit delimiters
H264 bitstream changed: insert pict timing and buffering period SEI units
Decoding AAC stream (track 2): Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
B-pyramid level 1 detected. Shift DTS to 2 frames
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Processed 162828 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist

any standalone and ps3
the reason: when using tsmuxer with mutli m2ts files its known peoblem to audio synch problems and able to not playable

if u use multiavchd its creates seemless branches and its very lkely comptable on its ps3 too.

any standalone and ps3
the reason: when using tsmuxer with mutli m2ts files its known peoblem to audio synch problems and able to not playable

if u use multiavchd its creates seemless branches and its very lkely comptable on its ps3 too.

multiavchd is not a user friendly, too slow and it doesn't show the progress bar too complicated for me just my opinion, anyways I found out that it is not tsmuxer fault, it's the PS3 latest firmware, any BD structure not burned to BD-R media is going to be detected as DATA disc, I burned the same folders to BD-RW disc and PS3 played it as blu-ray fine, I will be passing the DVD9 to a friend to see if it plays on his blu-ray player.

multiavchd is not a user friendly, too slow and it doesn't show the progress bar too complicated for me just my opinion, anyways I found out that it is not tsmuxer fault, it's the PS3 latest firmware, any BD structure not burned to BD-R media is going to be detected as DATA disc, I burned the same folders to BD-RW disc and PS3 played it as blu-ray fine, I will be passing the DVD9 to a friend to see if it plays on his blu-ray player.

I have the latest firmware and I am pretty sure I haven't seen this problem.

You say multiAVCHD is too complicated and slow. Perhaps..

But the really cool thing about it is the fact that you can dispense with DVD9 or any optical media. It can create the AVCHD structure on a hard drive that you just plug in and the PS3 plays - with full audio etc.

And it gets over the 4G filesize limit of FAT32 by cutting up longer movies into 4G chunks and creating a standard BD branching structure so that the PS3 just plays each chunk in sequence with no pause between them.

I have a 200G drive lying around that I have put a number of movies onto in this format, many of them just the original m2ts files from the BD and each accessible with the menu that multiAVCHD creates during the compilation stage. I do this because I often purchase Region B titles that the PS3 cannot play. Ripping them and putting them onto a HD gets over this problem.

I tried multi avchd but could not make it work. Any simpler tutorial there?

I tried multi avchd but could not make it work. Any simpler tutorial there?

what are you trying to do though?

simply add files
wait until it adds and the name of the title greens its good to go
if its red u need to use uncropmkx
second screen next to it start
and it will ask you which format u want it author
dvd5/dvd9/for panasonic/avchd/bd-r
choose it and it will create the file if its 20gb files it would take atleast 30min-1hour depends on ur cpu speed
burn it to disc

Can you tel me how the setting suppose to be on tsMuxerGUI, because I've done so many discs with it and never got a problem, I may have changed something lately on the program?

If you are going to use a DVD disk then you need to select "AVCHD" as the output in tsMuxeR not Blu-Ray. Then burn using UDF 2.5 settings. This has worked fine on my PS3.

Mike T

I tried multi avchd but could not make it work. Any simpler tutorial there?


Pretty comprehensive instructions here

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php

If you are going to use a DVD disk then you need to select "AVCHD" as the output in tsMuxeR not Blu-Ray. Then burn using UDF 2.5 settings. This has worked fine on my PS3.

Mike T

I will do that in my next project, I just burnt it to BD-R worked fine I waisted 16GB of disc space but it's $2 BD-R not a big deal, thank you guys for the help.

I found out that it is not tsmuxer fault, it's the PS3 latest firmware, any BD structure not burned to BD-R media is going to be detected as DATA disc, I burned the same folders to BD-RW disc and PS3 played it as blu-ray fine, I will be passing the DVD9 to a friend to see if it plays on his blu-ray player.

Yep, PS3 is doing this in purpose, my friend reported that DVD9 burned as blu-ray output from tsmuxer worked fine on his blu-ray player, too bad, but at least it works when done as AVCHD.

Is there a best software to use for cloning blu-ray or do they all have thier flaws? I want to back up some of my blu-rays without any loss of quality.

Is there a best software to use for cloning blu-ray or do they all have thier flaws? I want to back up some of my blu-rays without any loss of quality.

AnyDVDHD (you must purchase)
Then use either ToNMT or ClownBD.
ClownBD can rip/burn either just the movie and whatever audio you desire or the full BD.
Cheers.

I have a MKV file that I want to make into a Blu Ray movie and everything seems to go ok but when I burn it using IMG Burn and play it on my Blu Ray player I get sound but a blank screen. I thought that maybe it was NTSC as I am UK so I changed setting on player to NTSC but still blank picture.

What am I doing wrong?

My player is a BMP-DB35

Did you author the directory structure using TSMUXER ?

(for @#%^&#$% sake, why do people bother creating %&^*@!#$% MKV files anyway ??)

Use TSMUXER to create the directory structure - then burn with IMGBURN.

BTW, I have a BD35 too.

(for @#%^&#$% sake, why do people bother creating %&^*@!#$% MKV files anyway ??)

.

Maybe because it's the "best" format for uploading content of questionable legality and quite flexible in terms of codec support:D

I myself backup my BluRay's as .ts or .m2ts format so that it's easily played by my Popcorn Hour or PS3. I don't care about the slight increase in space over MKV.

Maybe because it's the "best" format for uploading content of questionable legality and quite flexible in terms of codec support:D
MKV is not format, it is container, to be correct. Like .TS or .M2TS.

I myself backup my BluRay's as .ts or .m2ts format so that it's easily played by my Popcorn Hour or PS3. I don't care about the slight increase in space over MKV.

I agree completely, I don't care about MKV too. TS or M2TS plays easily on my PS3.

what tools do I need to backup a bluray movie to regular DVD so it can be watched on the road on regular DVD players?

MKV is not format, it is container, to be correct. Like .TS or .M2TS.


..PS3.

Agreed - slightly sloppy terminology:confused:

hi,

i have a question about compressing a blu-ray to BD9.
is there any noticable loss of quality if i copy a BD to BD9?

i want to copy my BD discs to my HTPC so i can play them from there in my front end instead of having to put the disc in to play.
if i do a full copy of the movie (extra's not included) it will take me a lot of space.
so, i wanna try the BD9 which is only max 9 GB.

so if anybody knows let me know.
i just started a copy myself but it will take 3 hours before it's finished.
i just wanna know for sure beefore i do my other BD's.


regards,
Monecristo

Do you mean BD9 or DVD D/L which is also about 9GB.

The answer is it depends. I have found that a 90-100 min movie compressed with H.264 and retaining one lossless audio track compresses quite nicely to a DVD D/L and the PQ is very good. Of course it's the usual saying about "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" :)

Ok, so I have a weird problem. I have burned about 15 blu rays, exact 1-on-1 copies onto bd-r 50gb Mitsubishi discs, I also am using the Pioneer BD 205 btw. I use AnyDvd HD for decoding and Blu Cloner 2 for burning. I have not had any issues until I recently tried to burn the movies "The Fourth Kind" and "Up". When I put the movie 4th kind in is brings up a load bar screen, I think this has to do with blu ray live maybe? Then after a while nothing....it will just sit there blank and you have to go to main screen, on ps3, to get out of the blank screen. The same thing happened with the movie Up. I have put the orginal movie in and after the loading screen it does start the movie so I am at a loss for what the problem might be and why my copied version isnt playing.....any suggestions or help before I make another very expensive coaster???

Ok, so I have a weird problem. I have burned about 15 blu rays, exact 1-on-1 copies onto bd-r 50gb Mitsubishi discs, I also am using the Pioneer BD 205 btw. I use AnyDvd HD for decoding and Blu Cloner 2 for burning. I have not had any issues until I recently tried to burn the movies "The Fourth Kind" and "Up". When I put the movie 4th kind in is brings up a load bar screen, I think this has to do with blu ray live maybe? Then after a while nothing....it will just sit there blank and you have to go to main screen, on ps3, to get out of the blank screen. The same thing happened with the movie Up. I have put the orginal movie in and after the loading screen it does start the movie so I am at a loss for what the problem might be and why my copied version isnt playing.....any suggestions or help before I make another very expensive coaster???

I'm not familiar with Blu Cloner 2 - try downloading and using ClownBD

I'm not familiar with Blu Cloner 2 - try downloading and using ClownBD

Ok did that and this is the menu that pops up after install :
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s50/jcsmith22/clownbd1-1.png
Do I need all the other programs to make ClownBD work (i.e. eac3to, tsMuxer, ImgBurn)? When I click next it gives me the error eac3to.exe does not exist.

You didn't download the correct file. Go to http://www.clownbd.com/ and download the second link - that one includes all the other programs needed.

Ok gotcha. Downloaded correct file and imgBurn. Is there any particular settings that I should change or is the stock settings sufficient enough for a 1-on-1 copy? Sorry I'm a complete noob when it comes to the whole blu ray burning process!

That's up to you - you could rip just the movie, select whatever audio tracks you want, what media you're going to rip to...the program has great help by hovering over each section.

Well I just kept everything stock or auto and ripped the movie onto my hardrive then burned it onto one of the same type of 50gb discs i was using and presto! it works! I am still at a loss as to why the other copy made with the blu cloner software wont work, but never the less problem seems solved. Thank you so much for your help!

Well I just kept everything stock or auto and ripped the movie onto my hardrive then burned it onto one of the same type of 50gb discs i was using and presto! it works! I am still at a loss as to why the other copy made with the blu cloner software wont work, but never the less problem seems solved. Thank you so much for your help!

Cheers! :)

I've owned a Panasonic HDC-SD1 for years and have been accumulating AVCHD files on my hard drive. I recently bought a Windows 7 PC with a Blu Ray burner (HP HEP-170t).

I'm trying to understand how to burn Blu Ray video discs (not data discs) of my AVCHD files. I've tried burning a disc using windows explorer and was successful, but it was burned as a data disc and will not play on my set top Blu Ray player. The disc plays the files fine on my PC but I want video discs to use on various Blu Ray players.

Can I burn Blu Ray video discs from (only) Windows 7 or do I need specific authoring software of some sort?

Thanks.

Not that I have had any personal experiences with this but I have burnt AVCHD files to DVD using Imgburn and they play fine in a BluRay player as if they were a BD title. The trick is the file format structure and UDB 2.5 (IIRC).

Looking at the site http://www.imgburn.com/ it seems can burn BD disks. So using that free software and something tsmuxer to get your files into the AVCHD container, you might be able to do it.

I've owned a Panasonic HDC-SD1 for years and have been accumulating AVCHD files on my hard drive. I recently bought a Windows 7 PC with a Blu Ray burner (HP HEP-170t).

I'm trying to understand how to burn Blu Ray video discs (not data discs) of my AVCHD files. I've tried burning a disc using windows explorer and was successful, but it was burned as a data disc and will not play on my set top Blu Ray player. The disc plays the files fine on my PC but I want video discs to use on various Blu Ray players.

Can I burn Blu Ray video discs from (only) Windows 7 or do I need specific authoring software of some sort?

Thanks.

I believe that AVCHD format must be put on DVD disks, and if you want to burn to Blu-Ray disks, then they should be authored to Blu-Ray folder structure which is slightly different than AVCHD folder structure. This is my experience playing disks on a PS3 and using TsmuxeR software.

Mike T

It appears that Tsmuxer has an option to create a BluRay structure though I have never tested it since I don't have a burner.

I've owned a Panasonic HDC-SD1 for years and have been accumulating AVCHD files on my hard drive. I recently bought a Windows 7 PC with a Blu Ray burner (HP HEP-170t).

I'm trying to understand how to burn Blu Ray video discs (not data discs) of my AVCHD files. I've tried burning a disc using windows explorer and was successful, but it was burned as a data disc and will not play on my set top Blu Ray player. The disc plays the files fine on my PC but I want video discs to use on various Blu Ray players.

Can I burn Blu Ray video discs from (only) Windows 7 or do I need specific authoring software of some sort?

Thanks.

I use ImgBurn, and it will automatically create a CERTIFICATE folder if you tell it to. But, I've had the output still being recognized as a DATA disc. Some players require the extra dummy folders. It all depends on the player.

The following procedure ensures your discs will be recognized as a Blu-ray.
Create a CERTIFICATE folder that contains a BACKUP folder and place it alongside the BDMV folder within the titled root folder.
Inside the BDMV folder, create AUXDATA, BDJO, JAR and META folders (all of these additional folders in BDMV are empty).
Using ImgBurn, write to disc.
Your player will see the disc as a Blu-ray.

I would think it would be much easier to just get the free TsmuxeR, load the .m2ts file from the AVCHD folder and then choose "blu-Ray" output and let TsmuxeR create all the correct blu-ray folders in a few minutes and you can have chapters added if you want them.
http://www.smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html

Mike T

Many here like tsmuxer but I had too much trouble with it to spend any more time, when another suggestion from this thread: free multiavchd (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/) has worked flawlessly and offers options to burn to BD-R, DVD-as-AVCHD and DVD-as-DVD. It is fast and has enough but not too many options and works with negligible tweaking, at least with the .mpg and h.264 material I've used. I use it to create the file structure and burn with Img-burn, which is smart enough to correct me when I don't tell it the right options for the project I'm burning.

Ok, so I have a weird problem. I have burned about 15 blu rays, exact 1-on-1 copies onto bd-r 50gb Mitsubishi discs, I also am using the Pioneer BD 205 btw. I use AnyDvd HD for decoding and Blu Cloner 2 for burning. I have not had any issues until I recently tried to burn the movies "The Fourth Kind" and "Up". When I put the movie 4th kind in is brings up a load bar screen, I think this has to do with blu ray live maybe? Then after a while nothing....it will just sit there blank and you have to go to main screen, on ps3, to get out of the blank screen. The same thing happened with the movie Up. I have put the orginal movie in and after the loading screen it does start the movie so I am at a loss for what the problem might be and why my copied version isnt playing.....any suggestions or help before I make another very expensive coaster???

JCSMITH I see that your problem is solved but I'm just curious, why don't you just copy the original disc to another disc the way that it is since the disc size is not an object for you by simply using a disc copy software such as imgburn, create the disc image on the HD than burn it back to the blank disc, that is if you have one disc player only if you do have internal player and /or external burner than you can burn that on the fly without using hard drive, I've done it because I have my laptop BD player and external HD-DVD/BD burner used roxio disc copier I needed AnyDVD to defeat the copy protection though, and I made my backup succesfully. it took 32min for 18GB movie.

So I have some questions about creating a semi-pro looking DVD/BlueRay

When I put this on DVD I don't know what to do. It probably will not all fit on a normal DVD without compression so is that why BlueRay disks "look better" they can fit uncompressed files on them? I might duplicate both DVD and BlueRay. But I've shot all my footage in 29.970i but I need to return for some interviews and slow motion shots like sitting interviews which I was thinking on shooting them in 24p.

Then I would be stuck with a time line with both 23.970P and 29.970i shots and have to choose what to render. If I downrender it to 24p than I will loose speedy shots frames taken in 30i. If I uprender it to 30i than I loose the true 24p right? That's the REAL question because how many frames per second will the dvd player read and display anyway?

Can you even put a true 1920x1080 video on a DVD or "HDDVD"? Plus I don't think you can put a 24p video on a dvd correct? and do normal DVD players read any DVDs higher than DVD5?

Have you tried burning it onto a DL-DVD? The majority of movie and game DVDs use this format AFAIK.

if you have no idea what you're doing it's best to

1. pay someone to handle your video compression and disc authoring
2. get some software that does it for you... you'll likely take a bit of a hit on the quality of the video encode

also it's best to shoot everything at the same framerate

I have done some research to burn ACVHD video captured by a camcorder and burn it on to DVD-R/RW media. This was also the reason found this thread. So here is my problem and hope some experts here can help me.
Source: 1920x1080/60p acvhd coded MP4 video/AAC audio captured by SANYO VPC-FH1A camcorder.
Tools: tsMuxer rev 1.10.6
multiAVCHD 4.1
ImgBurn 2.5.1.0
Final disc: DVD-R or DVD-RW with ACVHD video at 1920x1080/60p (only 22 min for a 4.7G DVD-R)
Blu Ray player: Sylvania NB530SLX-A
Computer OS: Window vista

I used tsMuxer first. And I got "Unsupported media type 15 for AVCHD/Blu-ray muxing" error when creating either blu ray format or acvhd format file output. I burned to DVD-R with UDF 2.50 anyway. The player tried to play BR format disc, but with just blank screen. The player said "disc error" for the acvhd format disc.

Then I found the type 15 error was due to AAC audio not supported for BR in this thread. I used multiAVCHD and I saw it did transcoding for audio to AC3. But the player did not play either format (loose acvhd and BR format). But since multiAVCHD tried to put a menu in the front. I did not know what issue was exactly. So questions:
1) What did I do wrong? All the m2ts file in the file structure can play OK on PC.

2) Is there a free stand alone voice transcode I can use to encode AAC to AC3?

3) At another forum, someone mentioned Sylvania NB530SLX-A takes BR formated DVD-R instead of ACVHD formated DVD-R. This was why I tried both ways. BR formatted DVD-R did get recognized by the player as DVD, but no video displayed when it tried to play it. Is it sound correct? Which format shall I use?

4) When I play my MP4 video via PC Window Meida Player, the sound got very choppy after 12-15 second. The video was very smooth after I updated the driver of the video card. The video bit rate is about 26Mbits/sec recorded. The video card has on board x264 decoder. But what is wrong with the audio? Is it PC not powerful enough? When I use VLC player, the video frozen at the 1st frame, but audio played nicely. Any suggestions on a better software player (free one)?

Thanks in advance to all the experts here can give some helps.

I have done some research to burn ACVHD video captured by a camcorder and burn it on to DVD-R/RW media. This was also the reason found this thread. So here is my problem and hope some experts here can help me.
Source: 1920x1080/60p acvhd coded MP4 video/AAC audio captured by SANYO VPC-FH1A camcorder.
Tools: tsMuxer rev 1.10.6
multiAVCHD 4.1
ImgBurn 2.5.1.0
Final disc: DVD-R or DVD-RW with ACVHD video at 1920x1080/60p (only 22 min for a 4.7G DVD-R)
Blu Ray player: Sylvania NB530SLX-A
Computer OS: Window vista

I used tsMuxer first. And I got "Unsupported media type 15 for AVCHD/Blu-ray muxing" error when creating either blu ray format or acvhd format file output. I burned to DVD-R with UDF 2.50 anyway. The player tried to play BR format disc, but with just blank screen. The player said "disc error" for the acvhd format disc.

Then I found the type 15 error was due to AAC audio not supported for BR in this thread. I used multiAVCHD and I saw it did transcoding for audio to AC3. But the player did not play either format (loose acvhd and BR format). But since multiAVCHD tried to put a menu in the front. I did not know what issue was exactly. So questions:
1) What did I do wrong? All the m2ts file in the file structure can play OK on PC.

2) Is there a free stand alone voice transcode I can use to encode AAC to AC3?

3) At another forum, someone mentioned Sylvania NB530SLX-A takes BR formated DVD-R instead of ACVHD formated DVD-R. This was why I tried both ways. BR formatted DVD-R did get recognized by the player as DVD, but no video displayed when it tried to play it. Is it sound correct? Which format shall I use?

4) When I play my MP4 video via PC Window Meida Player, the sound got very choppy after 12-15 second. The video was very smooth after I updated the driver of the video card. The video bit rate is about 26Mbits/sec recorded. The video card has on board x264 decoder. But what is wrong with the audio? Is it PC not powerful enough? When I use VLC player, the video frozen at the 1st frame, but audio played nicely. Any suggestions on a better software player (free one)?

Thanks in advance to all the experts here can give some helps.

U mentioned mp4 format
I would recommend use uncropmkv
and try it.It might take abit longer than expected make sure u choose the format that comptable for your player

I have a general read of the past post concerning this question. There is no good answer I need.
And I was wondering what do you do with blu ray software? And which kind blu ray software is the best useful for us?

I have a general read of the past post concerning this question. There is no good answer I need.
And I was wondering what do you do with blu ray software? And which kind blu ray software is the best useful for us?

I put it in a BluRay player and watch the film? :D Why what do you do with it? :eek:

What kind of BluRay software are you referring to? Playing, ripping, burning or compression?

For ripping use AnyDVD HD.
For compression use BD Rebuilder
For burning imageburn or Nero will do
For watching on a PC use Power DVD.

Have a look at this PDF, it seems to be about the best that I've found:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18420098#post18420098

Seggers

I put it in a BluRay player and watch the film? :D Why what do you do with it? :eek:

What kind of BluRay software are you referring to? Playing, ripping, burning or compression?

For ripping use AnyDVD HD.
For compression use BD Rebuilder
For burning imageburn or Nero will do
For watching on a PC use Power DVD.

Have a look at this PDF, it seems to be about the best that I've found:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18420098#post18420098

Seggers
T hanks for you answer. But I didn't put the post here myself. I don't know why it placed here. I just started a new thread in another area.

I would like to experiment with burning some of my Blurays to hard disk. My PC does not have a Bluray drive, however. Is there a way I could connect my Sony PS3 to my PC and burn the movie that way?

I would like to experiment with burning some of my Blurays to hard disk. My PC does not have a Bluray drive, however. Is there a way I could connect my Sony PS3 to my PC and burn the movie that way?

You don't need to burn, just stream:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/PS3_Media_Server

I would like to experiment with burning some of my Blurays to hard disk. My PC does not have a Bluray drive, however. Is there a way I could connect my Sony PS3 to my PC and burn the movie that way?

You don't 'burn' anything to a hard drive (it would ruin the metal....). You copy to it.

And no, there's no way that I know of to copy a copy protected BD across a network to a PC. Sony just aren't going to allow the crown jewels to be lifted that easily.

Seggers

Well I have seen reports of people booting up Linux on the PS3 and being able to rip an ISO of a BD in the drive. They then take that ISO to another machine and proceed to rip it. But because the ISO doesn't contain all the data that provides copy protection and therefore can be ripped, the only to rip this ISO is to know beforehand, the various keys (VUK is a term I have seen mentioned) which you pass into the ripping programs.

Check out this thread

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=124841&highlight=ps3


It seems all very complex when you can purchase a BD drive for about $100 or so and with the right tools, rip just about any BD out there without knowing the keys.

After perusing this and other sites for info, I think I could rip & burn BR pretty easily using AnyDVDHD and ImgBurn (both of which I currently have) to burn the created ISO to BR disk. However, the blank discs still seem pretty high priced and would have to cost less than $2 per blank to be worthwhile for me, given that I can buy (not new release) movies for around $10 give or take. This means that I would have to use either Optical Quantum ($10 for 10 pack at Newegg) or verbatim ($29 for 25 pack at newegg).

Are these disks acceptable, or are the higher price/quality discs advisable?

Thanks,
Bob

This means that I would have to use either Optical Quantum ($10 for 10 pack at Newegg) or verbatim ($29 for 25 pack at newegg).

Are these disks acceptable, or are the higher price/quality discs advisable?

Thanks,
Bob

I bought 25 pack spindle of Optical Quantum BD-Rs in July of 2009 from Mwave for $53 ($2.12 per disk). Didn't have a single problem. I also bought three 15 pack spindles of Memorex BD-Rs on sale from Newegg for $25 ($1.66 per disk). Didn't have a single problem.

After perusing this and other sites for info, I think I could rip & burn BR pretty easily using AnyDVDHD and ImgBurn (both of which I currently have) to burn the created ISO to BR disk. However, the blank discs still seem pretty high priced and would have to cost less than $2 per blank to be worthwhile for me, given that I can buy (not new release) movies for around $10 give or take. This means that I would have to use either Optical Quantum ($10 for 10 pack at Newegg) or verbatim ($29 for 25 pack at newegg).

Are these disks acceptable, or are the higher price/quality discs advisable?

Thanks,
Bob

Not to be righteous here but why the comparison of blank media to used titles? That suggests to me that you are trading off the cost of obtaining a BD title and making a copy for the price of the blank media, versus purchasing an actual title? I am willing to be corrected if my assumption is wrong here.

Not to be righteous here

Really? Then why the clarification?

but why the comparison of blank media to used titles? That suggests to me that you are trading off the cost of obtaining a BD title and making a copy for the price of the blank media, versus purchasing an actual title?

I don't suppose it occurred to you that buying the more expensive blanks, when coupled with the cost of the title, can be more than I'm willing to pay?


I am willing to be corrected if my assumption is wrong here.

Consider it done. You probably should have resisted the urge to respond.

Bob

...blank discs still seem pretty high priced...Quantum ($10 for 10 pack at Newegg) or verbatim ($29 for 25 pack at newegg).Huh? Links please; I've never seen BD-R discs for anywhere near these prices.

And btw there are very few if any BD discs that will rip-and-burn to a 25Gb BD-R.

Huh? Links please; I've never seen BD-R discs for anywhere near these prices.

And btw there are very few if any BD discs that will rip-and-burn to a 25Gb BD-R.
The lowest cost BD-R's I've found are priced @$1.50 each. Verbatim's through Amazon. And I've ripped several movies (most just the movie w/the HD audio, and a couple to BD-R DL's) to BD-R's with no issues.

Huh? Links please; I've never seen BD-R discs for anywhere near these prices.

Here: http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-32020013358-Write-Once-Blu-ray-Spindle/dp/B001B96HLU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Memorex 32020013358 25GB 4X Write-Once BD-R Blu-ray Discs (15pk Spindle) - $19.99 ( $1.33 per disk)

It is even cheaper than from Newegg for the same spindle that I bought last week which was $25.00 ($1.66 per disk).

Here: http://www.amazon.com/Memorex-32020013358-Write-Once-Blu-ray-Spindle/dp/B001B96HLU/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Memorex 32020013358 25GB 4X Write-Once BD-R Blu-ray Discs (15pk Spindle) - $19.99 ( $1.33 per disk)

It is even cheaper than from Newegg for the same spindle that I bought last week which was $25.00 ($1.66 per disk).

The key question is when will dual-layer BD's become cost-effective. The lowest I've paid is $7.50 per disc.

Huh? Links please; I've never seen BD-R discs for anywhere near these prices.

And btw there are very few if any BD discs that will rip-and-burn to a 25Gb BD-R.


That raises an interesting question. I didn't have a burner (only a reader) but decided I would get one since the price has dropped and I was getting annoyed with purchasing region B titles from Amazon UK I couldn't watch. Ripping and burning them is one way to overcome this since I am not aware of any hack, software or hardware to make the PS3 region free.

Since most as you say BD titles exceed a 25G disc, there needs to be a strategy to get them to fit on a single disc.

In the DVD world shrinking was always an option to get a DL title to fit in a DVD5. One could do the same with BD or perhaps remove extras etc. that you don't care about.

Looking at the contents of a BD, there is usually one large m2ts file (the movie) which rarely exceeds 20GB in size (or more challengingly, there are many m2ts files which make up the movie and use seamless branching to go from file to file), You would of course retain those. But you would replace all the other m2ts files (FBI warning, trailers, special features etc.) with a small perhaps 5MB m2ts file with the same name as the one you are removing. They are easily created by loading any m2ts file into tsmuxer and using the split option.

That means you are not breaking the navigation and menus so when you burn the BD structure back to a BDR, you effectively have the same disc as the original (PQ and AQ wise for the main feature) and all the navigation but fitting onto a single layer disc. Of course if you choose one of the extras you replaced in the menus, you will just the small file you put there.

I haven't burnt a BD yet but use Nero to burn AVCHD and I have to use UDF 2.5. I am guessing a BD is the same?

Looking at the contents of a BD, there is usually one large m2ts file (the movie) which rarely exceeds 20GB in size
Usually yes, but some do. Avatar is 40GB single file.

I haven't burnt a BD yet but use Nero to burn AVCHD and I have to use UDF 2.5. I am guessing a BD is the same?
I use MultiAVCHD for authoring BDs and ImbBurn to burn them to BD-R/RE disks.
BTW, in MultiAVCHD you can specify BD-25 and will transcode/shrink video with very good results (it uses x.264 encoder).

Usually yes, but some do. Avatar is 40GB single file.


I use MultiAVCHD for authoring BDs and ImbBurn to burn them to BD-R/RE disks.
BTW, in MultiAVCHD you can specify BD-25 and will transcode/shrink video with very good results (it uses x.264 encoder).

Interesting. I don't have that title so I have never looked at it. I wonder why it's so large since the movie itself IIRC wasn't that long. Maybe they chose to use a very high bit rate for encoding?

I use x264 all the time to encode my HD-DVD's to m2ts and occasionally BD titles. With the right parameters and patience(!), the output files can be very close to the original with a significant space saving.

Interesting. I don't have that title so I have never looked at it. I wonder why it's so large since the movie itself IIRC wasn't that long. Maybe they chose to use a very high bit rate for encoding?

Well, it is 2 hours and 40 minutes. It is quite long. And I am sure they used high bitrate for best quality.

Ah - time passes quickly when you're having fun:)

Since most as you say BD titles exceed a 25G disc, there needs to be a strategy to get them to fit on a single disc.And there are plenty of those (methods to reduce disc size). But the OP was talking about using only AnyDVDHD and ImgBurn. Not with very many discs he can't...

Still awaiting proof of Bob14567's claim of $29 for 25 Verbatim BD-Rs.

I bought 25 pack spindle of Optical Quantum BD-Rs in July of 2009 from Mwave for $53 ($2.12 per disk). Didn't have a single problem. I also bought three 15 pack spindles of Memorex BD-Rs on sale from Newegg for $25 ($1.66 per disk). Didn't have a single problem.

Thanks, MozartMan. It helps knowing the experience of others.

Bob

Huh? Links please; I've never seen BD-R discs for anywhere near these prices.

Here's the link. Now it's $14.99, which puts it at $1.50 per disk. Don't know if I misread or if it went up. Still not bad, though.

And btw there are very few if any BD discs that will rip-and-burn to a 25Gb BD-R.

Nope. Didn't know that. Makes sense, though. Thanks for the heads up.

Bob

Well, it is 2 hours and 40 minutes. It is quite long. And I am sure they used high bitrate for best quality.

I have the DVD, and, upscaled via a panasonic BMP-BD65, it actually looks like BluRay...very high quality. I guess the BluRay must be incredible.

Bob

And there are plenty of those (methods to reduce disc size). But the OP was talking about using only AnyDVDHD and ImgBurn. Not with very many discs he can't...

As implied in my OP, I am a newb at this. But I thought that AnyDVDHD would strip menus and extras, thereby reducing the size enough? Apparently not. I'd really rather not reduce quality if avoidable, yet still burn to BD-R. Any suggestions?

Still awaiting proof of Bob14567's claim of $29 for 25 Verbatim BD-Rs.

I stand corrected. I must have read 25GB as 25 pack. It's actually a 10 pack, and is down to 24.99 here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130047

Thanks,
Bob

I have the DVD, and, upscaled via a panasonic BMP-BD65, it actually looks like BluRay...very high quality. I guess the BluRay must be incredible.It all depends on your display--the bigger the screen, the more obvious the improvement (mine's 10ft wide).

As implied in my OP, I am a newb at this. But I thought that AnyDVDHD would strip menus and extras, thereby reducing the size enough? Apparently not. I'd really rather not reduce quality if avoidable, yet still burn to BD-R. Any suggestions?AnyDVDHD is <only> a decrypter; doesn't do any stripping/reducing. For that you have to de-multiplex the disc into individual video/audio/subtitle streams, and then re-multiplex with only the video/audio/sub tracks that you want. Most movies can be simplified to play from a 25Gb BD-R untouched i.e. of original quality. Others you would have to re-encode entirely.

I think there are lots of suggestions how to do this elsewhere in the thread.

As implied in my OP, I am a newb at this. But I thought that AnyDVDHD would strip menus and extras, thereby reducing the size enough? Apparently not. I'd really rather not reduce quality if avoidable, yet still burn to BD-R. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bob

I use ToNMT to get the movie, and selected audio tracks, and subtitles. Or you could use ClownBD that does the same thing and allows you more flexibility. Or use multiAVCHD which allows other options. :)

I use ToNMT to get the movie, and selected audio tracks, and subtitles. Or you could use ClownBD that does the same thing and allows you more flexibility. Or use multiAVCHD which allows other options. :)

If all you want is the movie you can just use Windows Explorer to copy off the movie file and author that to BD using tsmuxer. If however if it's like Avatar which I see is 40G then you are going to have to compress it or split it into two disks.

tonmt just calls eac3to to extract the various streams, remove Dolby dialogue normalization etc. but if the m2ts file as it stands fit on a BD, then I would just author that.

If all you want is the movie you can just use Windows Explorer to copy off the movie file and author that to BD using tsmuxer. If however if it's like Avatar which I see is 40G then you are going to have to compress it or split it into two disks.

tonmt just calls eac3to to extract the various streams, remove Dolby dialogue normalization etc. but if the m2ts file as it stands fit on a BD, then I would just author that.

If the full BD can fit on a BD-R 25 then the easiest way is just use ImgBurn.

First, thanks to all for your comments and willingness to help with what must be basic questions that you've answered many times before. I have perused the group, but once the posts become so numerous, there is almost too much info to wade through.


AnyDVDHD is <only> a decrypter; doesn't do any stripping/reducing. For that you have to de-multiplex the disc into individual video/audio/subtitle streams, and then re-multiplex with only the video/audio/sub tracks that you want. Most movies can be simplified to play from a 25Gb BD-R untouched i.e. of original quality. Others you would have to re-encode entirely.

I think there are lots of suggestions how to do this elsewhere in the thread.

I have found a pdf primer that is pretty extensive here:

http://www.corusa.com/public/Blu-Ray_Backup_Guide_milOtis.pdf

It lays out various methods, but states a preference for BluRay --> DVD, declaring:

"My guide will teach you how to backup you monstrous 50GB Blu-Ray disc to a standard DVD (4.7GB), while still maintaining full HD quality and HD audio."

I suppose if that method were realistic, many here would be pushing it, but it also demonstrates BluRay --> BluRay. Anyone have any comments?

I use ToNMT to get the movie, and selected audio tracks, and subtitles. Or you could use ClownBD that does the same thing and allows you more flexibility. Or use multiAVCHD which allows other options. :)

I've recently visited a site that suggested those softwares. The aforementioned guide suggests some of those as well.

Thanks!

If all you want is the movie you can just use Windows Explorer to copy off the movie file and author that to BD using tsmuxer. If however if it's like Avatar which I see is 40G then you are going to have to compress it or split it into two disks.

tonmt just calls eac3to to extract the various streams, remove Dolby dialogue normalization etc. but if the m2ts file as it stands fit on a BD, then I would just author that.

Easier yet. Perhaps, as Wryker suggests, even easier with ImgBurn, but as you mention, size is relevant.


I'm interested in hearing y'all's comments on the guide I mentioned. Viable? Another guide I found is here:

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/tutorial.php

Thanks again,
Bob

I have found a pdf primer that is pretty extensive...states a preference for BluRay --> DVD

I'm interested in hearing y'all's comments on the guideThat guide's a little ridiculous IMO. Here's an easier one: "Rip w/AnyDVDHD, convert with BD-RB, burn w/ImgBurn."

HD on DVD-5 and DVD-9 using x264 is SO GOOD that one might reasonably wonder why the industry bothered to develop BD-25 and 50 (though the answer is as simple as "more room for extras so we can sell these crappy movies").

Jump in, the water's fine.

I'll throw my advise out there.

To Rip use DVDFAB or ANYDVD HD. You can use DVDFAB's free decryptor and but it lacks newer movies. Usually if a movie is over 2 hours you then need to shrink it. This is even with removing HD audio and all extras. To shrink you can use DVDFab's all in one program(but you have to pay) or Clown BD or Blu Ray rebuilder. For me Blu Ray Rebuilder works the best. The fab program is easiest but often I get quick distortion in movies or can't fast forward or rewind the backups. Then once you've got it below 25GB Img burn to disc. As far as BD 9 and 5's. On my 46" Tv I can't tell the difference between the original and the BD 9. However on my 100" projector I can tell the difference. Also realize that to shrink a BD you need a good processor. Single Core about 20-40 hours. Dual core 10-20 and quad core 5-10. This of course varies with the program, the size of the original, and also with the quality you reencode at.

Many commercial BDs fit on a 25G disc.
Down-rezzing a 50G BD to an 8.5G DVD gives up lots of detail and introduces artifacts. It's the nature of the beast. If you can't see the difference on your screen, by all means ripoff/backup DVDs instead of Blu Rays and save yourself a lot of time and some money.
A good player / display can do remarkable things to DVDs to make them look good on a big screen but it's not comparable to a well-authored Blu Ray. :cool:

Many commercial BDs fit on a 25G disc.
Down-rezzing a 50G BD to an 8.5G DVD gives up lots of detail and introduces artifacts. It's the nature of the beast. If you can't see the difference on your screen, by all means ripoff/backup DVDs instead of Blu Rays and save yourself a lot of time and some money.
A good player / display can do remarkable things to DVDs to make them look good on a big screen but it's not comparable to a well-authored Blu Ray. :cool:To be clear, I said "HD on DVD" ie. I was not talking about down-rezzing to 720x480 DVD. I mean 1080p-to-1080p, h264, burned to DVD discs of 4.7Gb or 8.5Gb.

While it certainly is possible to compare a commercial BD movie side-by-side with the same program, properly re-encoded using x264 to BD-5 or BD-9, and see some differences, if you hadn't seen the original you wouldn't know the copy from Video Nirvana. And I'm talking a 10ft 1080p projection display.

To be clear, I said "HD on DVD" ie. I was not talking about down-rezzing to 720x480 DVD. I mean 1080p-to-1080p, h264, burned to DVD discs of 4.7Gb or 8.5Gb.

While it certainly is possible to compare a commercial BD movie side-by-side with the same program, properly re-encoded using x264 to BD-5 or BD-9, and see some differences, if you hadn't seen the original you wouldn't know the copy from Video Nirvana. And I'm talking a 10ft 1080p projection display.

I was intrigued by this also. I ripped The Kingdom (HD-DVD but the experiment is valid anyway) and put the entire movie part of the rip on my server. That's about 15G in VC1 format which was popular for HD-DVD's. Then encoded is to H.264 using x264 constant quality 21 with other tweaks. That took about 8 hours on a dual core Athlon and the resulting file was about 3G. I then muxed back the DD+ audio and burnt to a DVD in AVCHD format.

Then teed up the disk on my Oppo BDP-80 and teed up the original uncompressed file on my Popcorn Hour A200 both feeding a Vivitek 1080P projector and 94" (wide) screen.

Found the same scene on both and froze them and flicked back and forth to compare. Certainly there was a difference - mainly in the finer details but if I were just watching the compressed version with no reference to the original I would say the picture was excellent.

So I would imagine with the additional space afforded by a BD-5 the quality in most situations would be even better but of course with this particular movie, it would fit on the disc with no additional compression.

I would imagine with the additional space afforded by a BD-5 the quality in most situations would be even better but of course with this particular movie, it would fit on the disc with no additional compression.You had made a "BD-5" so I assume you meant to type BD-25 here, which yes would likely have fit the VC1 & audio without any re-encoding at all, just re-muxing.

At 110min "The Kingdom" is a fine candidate for re-encoding with x264 to BD-on-DVD5 (a "BD-5") depending on the bitrate of the audiotrack. As a ROT any movie under 2 hours looks great on "BD-5" if the audio bitrate is, say, DD 640kbps or less. But if you wanted to use a DTS 1509kbps audiotrack then all bets are off i.e. I'd be inclined to go with a BD-9 or greater, especially if you insist on keeping the "TrueHD" high-bitrate "Master Audio" tracks or whatever-the-heck they're called. Then even BD-9 can leave you with too little space for video & subs.

FWIW I re-encode HD-DVDs and BD discs whenever I want to re-do a subtitle track, either to fit our 'scope screen, or to make them smaller/less obtrusive i.e. more palatable to myself (my wife is somewhat hearing-impaired, I am not). And sometimes I do it for the kids/grandkids/nieces/nephews to ruin; other times just cuz I hate messing with ugly, noisy intro junk. But in no case do I ever feel "deprived" of "original PQ" for having re-encoded the video...

The Kingdom on Hd-DVD is only 15 G with a DD + track so that fits nicely on a single layer BD disc. But even with a lossless audio track it would fit fine.

I am pretty happy with the pq of the encodes I do which fit on dual layer dvd but perhaps because I am not so picky:)

That guide's a little ridiculous IMO. Here's an easier one: "Rip w/AnyDVDHD, convert with BD-RB, burn w/ImgBurn."

HD on DVD-5 and DVD-9 using x264 is SO GOOD that one might reasonably wonder why the industry bothered to develop BD-25 and 50 (though the answer is as simple as "more room for extras so we can sell these crappy movies").

Jump in, the water's fine.

Thanks for that. Certainly, HD-->DVD is the cheaper option. Reminds me of early DVD backups...using 4 or 5 different softwares. Now it can be done with anyDVDHD and CloneDVD quite seamlessly. I imagine that BR will get there eventually.



I'll throw my advise out there.

To Rip use DVDFAB or ANYDVD HD. You can use DVDFAB's free decryptor and but it lacks newer movies. Usually if a movie is over 2 hours you then need to shrink it. This is even with removing HD audio and all extras. To shrink you can use DVDFab's all in one program(but you have to pay) or Clown BD or Blu Ray rebuilder. For me Blu Ray Rebuilder works the best. The fab program is easiest but often I get quick distortion in movies or can't fast forward or rewind the backups. Then once you've got it below 25GB Img burn to disc. As far as BD 9 and 5's. On my 46" Tv I can't tell the difference between the original and the BD 9. However on my 100" projector I can tell the difference. Also realize that to shrink a BD you need a good processor. Single Core about 20-40 hours. Dual core 10-20 and quad core 5-10. This of course varies with the program, the size of the original, and also with the quality you reencode at.

Thanks for the additional info. I already have AnyDVDHD. I guess I just have to find the peripheral softwares (AVCHD, etc.?) and buy a BluRay burner and I'll be set. As for the processing time, I have a dedicated dual core machine for such tasks.

Thanks to all...additional comments welcome.

Bob

I already have AnyDVDHD. I guess I just have to find the peripheral softwares (AVCHD, etc.?) and buy a BluRay burner and I'll be set. As for the processing time, I have a dedicated dual core machine for such tasks.Go over to SlySoft's forum and look under their High Def software area for something called "ClownBD". And you don't need a BD burner to get started (only a BD-ROM for reading your BD discs)--you can clown, er, clone i.e. convert BD movies and burn to DVD+R or +R DL. Of course, you then have a BD-5 or BD-9 and thus you need a BD set-top player for playback, or you can play them back on your PC in glorious 1920x1080p high definition.

Go over to SlySoft's forum and look under their High Def software area for something called "ClownBD". And you don't need a BD burner to get started (only a BD-ROM for reading your BD discs)--you can clown, er, clone i.e. convert BD movies and burn to DVD+R or +R DL. Of course, you then have a BD-5 or BD-9 and thus you need a BD set-top player for playback, or you can play them back on your PC in glorious 1920x1080p high definition.

That's great information. That I will eventually need a burner is inevitable (for multiple purposes...), but the reader is a great way to get my feet wet for a minimal investment, and can always be used in one machine or another here. Thanks, Laserfan for some really good ideas. I do already have a set top BDP.

Bob

That's great information. That I will eventually need a burner is inevitable (for multiple purposes...), but the reader is a great way to get my feet wet for a minimal investment, and can always be used in one machine or another here. Thanks, Laserfan for some really good ideas. I do already have a set top BDP.I think I steered you wrong w/ClownBD--it may only be a "remuxer" without "shrink to fit on DVD media" capabilities. For what you want to attempt, the best place for you to start is with BD Rebuilder (looky here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) for that).

Another one you may hear about, but which I don't trust myself with conversions to DVD media, is RipBot264. I do things "by hand" myself...

Sorry if I sent you on a wild-goose chase w/ClownBD... :o

I think I steered you wrong w/ClownBD--it may only be a "remuxer" without "shrink to fit on DVD media" capabilities. For what you want to attempt, the best place for you to start is with BD Rebuilder (looky here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) for that).

Another one you may hear about, but which I don't trust myself with conversions to DVD media, is RipBot264. I do things "by hand" myself...

Sorry if I sent you on a wild-goose chase w/ClownBD... :o

Thanks for the correction. Actually, I haven't had the time to do any 'work' or research beyond bookmarking, perusing and asking annoying questions :) . BDRebuilder is already on my radar. As soon as I have time, I'll put it toward researching the process. But, additional questions that occur:

My impression is that BDRebuilder will need 'helper' software, such as is listed in the guide I linked to earlier (milOtis), which includes, amongst others, AVCHD, ffdshow, etc.

From your reaction to the guide, your opinion of it seemed to be 'overkill'. Are the softwares listed [I]not[I] required? Also, I see no reference to the h264 encoder in any of them, so I assume that it's part of one of them, such as BDRebuilder. Is this a correct assumption?

Thanks again for your input,
Bob

My impression is that BDRebuilder will need 'helper' softwareYes--just read the first post of the BD-RB link I gave and all is told there. You need Avisynth, ffdshow, and Matroska Splitter iirc and the author of BD-RB even gives you links to them in that post.

From your reaction to the guide, your opinion of it seemed to be 'overkill'.Just my opinion. I suppose if you're good at following an extremely detailed step-by-step it might be OK; I don't like it cuz if you miss one step then suddenly you're completely lost (without knowing where you are or how you got there!).

But it's time to stop "researching" and start "doing". Yeah I know: if this were easy, everybody would be doing it. ;)

I just discovered a way to strip the unrated version of Hot Tub Time Machine from the rental Blu-ray.

Use AnyDVD HD to rip the files to hard drive. Then open the ripped files with Clown BD. When you get to the eac3to portion, you'll be presented with six playlists, the first two of which are 1:40:37 and 1:38:56. Choose 1:40:37. The resulting movie-only ripped files, with just the English soundtrack and English subtitles, are 27.2 GB.

This may be more trouble than it's worth, but just so you know, the unrated version IS on there. I think it's just blocked so the average person can't play it with their standalone player. It'd be interesting to see if there's any kind of workaround.

Just make sure you destroy the copy before you return the movie, so you don't copyright infringe. I wrote it to a BD-RE DL, watched it on a standalone Panasonic DMP-BD60, and wrote back over it before returning it.

But it's time to stop "researching" and start "doing". ;)

Yes, that is where I'm at. Thanks for your time.

Bob

Just an FYI: Newegg has the 10 pack of Optical Quantum BD-R for $9.99 plus $1.99 shipping. I've used quite a few of these and never had a problem. ID as Philips.

@ Bob14567, burners are now available for around $139 (LG). No sense in buying a reader only when the prices are so reasonable for a burner.

I just discovered a way to strip the unrated version of Hot Tub Time Machine from the rental Blu-ray.

Use AnyDVD HD to rip the files to hard drive. Then open the ripped files with Clown BD. When you get to the eac3to portion, you'll be presented with six playlists, the first two of which are 1:40:37 and 1:38:56. Choose 1:40:37. The resulting movie-only ripped files, with just the English soundtrack and English subtitles, are 27.2 GB.

This may be more trouble than it's worth, but just so you know, the unrated version IS on there. I think it's just blocked so the average person can't play it with their standalone player. It'd be interesting to see if there's any kind of workaround.

Just make sure you destroy the copy before you return the movie, so you don't copyright infringe. I wrote it to a BD-RE DL, watched it on a standalone Panasonic DMP-BD60, and wrote back over it before returning it.

Or just use ToNMT and rip that version to your HD and use ImgBURN to burn it to disc.

Just an FYI: Newegg has the 10 pack of Optical Quantum BD-R for $9.99 plus $1.99 shipping. I've used quite a few of these and never had a problem. ID as Philips.

@ Bob14567, burners are now available for around $139 (LG). No sense in buying a reader only when the prices are so reasonable for a burner.

Agreed. Although I'll likely make backups to DVD (since the quality is retained), but the BluRay burner will be useful for data backups even if I don't use it for movie b/u's. Since I don't need it right away, I'm waiting for the right price for the right drive to appear. I'm considering the Pioneer BDR-205BKS.

Thanks,
Bob

hey guys! im new here and i just have one question... i followed the bluray backup guide and i used the full backup 1:1 of a bluray movie which has worked fine on my ps3 (i use BD-RE 50GB discs). it came up with menus and everything.. then i played the movie for about an hour and it stopped working... it said some like "This is an invalid disc".. it does it at the same spot of the film everytime... any suggestions? thanks in advance!! great forum btw

.... (i use BD-RE 50GB discs). ... then i played the movie for about an hour and it stopped working... it said some like "This is an invalid disc".. it does it at the same spot of the film everytime... any suggestions?
This is probably layer break and your player cannot switch to the second layer. What did you use to burn the disk?

I used a pioneer bluray burner with imgburn software! I patched the "index.bdmv" file from the "BDMV" folder using AVCHD-patcher ver. 1.04.

sorry if this counts as spam but does anyone know how to fix the writing to the second layer of my bluray disc problem?? i could just use BD rebuilder to 25GB but iv got 50GB now and i wanna use all of it... thanks again

You should not need to "patch" anything if you are doing a 1-1 copy on a BD disk, try doing an exact copy without any patching.

Mike T

well i dont think i can get rid of the patch but i put it through bd rebuilder (25GB) and set it to auto burn with imgburn and now its working fine on my ps3 slim with the latest update! my only concern now is that i have 50GB bluray disc but im only using 25 of it...

I want to rip my bluray and compress possibly, or use movie only with menus, BD 25 or BD 50, and burn on BD 25 preferably.

I have a BD ROM pioneer already installed to my desk top, but would like to replace it with BD BURNER.

Choice is between pioneer or LG?....advise which one I can buy cheaper and would still work perfect( pros and Cons).

What brand BDR, 25GB I can use to burn my BD 25, so it is playable on ps3 slim, and standalone BLURAY player?

What software I can use to rip and make BD25 Iso keeping the menus ready to burn with image burn.

Which version of image burn is perfect for BD burning?

Thanks

I want to rip my bluray and compress possibly, or use movie only with menus, BD 25 or BD 50, and burn on BD 25 preferably.

I have a BD ROM pioneer already installed to my desk top, but would like to replace it with BD BURNER.

Choice is between pioneer or LG?....advise which one I can buy cheaper and would still work perfect( pros and Cons).

I personally prefer the Pioneer BDR-205. Pioneer seems to release more firmware updates and support their existing burners for longer, while LG seems to release one or two (if any) firmware updates, then crank out a new burner. The LG WH10 is cheaper though, and has similar features.

What brand BDR, 25GB I can use to burn my BD 25, so it is playable on ps3 slim, and standalone BLURAY player?

Verbatim BD-R is probably the cheapest one that'll work adequately. Most discs that are cheaper than that are manufactured by Ritek. If you go to myce.com and go to their forums, you'll see that a lot of people that have burned Ritek BD's have had their data deteriorate within a year!

What software I can use to rip and make BD25 Iso keeping the menus ready to burn with image burn.

For ripping, AnyDVD HD is the most updated but is not cheap. And most Blu-rays are originally bigger than 25 GB. For the few that are smaller, you can use AnyDVD HD to create an ISO, then burn with ImgBurn. For the ones that are bigger, you can (sometimes) strip out just the main movie and use (free) Clown BD and get it under 25 GB. If you can't get the whole movie under 25 GB, or you want the whole disc with menus and extras, (free) BD Rebuilder can shrink it down to 25 GB, but it can take hours. As a matter of fact, it takes roughly 7 hours on my Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.00 GHz.

Which version of image burn is perfect for BD burning?

Thanks

The latest one.

I personally prefer the Pioneer BDR-205. Pioneer seems to release more firmware updates and support their existing burners for longer, while LG seems to release one or two (if any) firmware updates, then crank out a new burner. The LG WH10 is cheaper though, and has similar features.

Verbatim BD-R is probably the cheapest one that'll work adequately. Most discs that are cheaper than that are manufactured by Ritek. If you go to myce.com and go to their forums, you'll see that a lot of people that have burned Ritek BD's have had their data deteriorate within a year!

For ripping, AnyDVD HD is the most updated but is not cheap. And most Blu-rays are originally bigger than 25 GB. For the few that are smaller, you can use AnyDVD HD to create an ISO, then burn with ImgBurn. For the ones that are bigger, you can (sometimes) strip out just the main movie and use (free) Clown BD and get it under 25 GB. If you can't get the whole movie under 25 GB, or you want the whole disc with menus and extras, (free) BD Rebuilder can shrink it down to 25 GB, but it can take hours. As a matter of fact, it takes roughly 7 hours on my Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.00 GHz.

The latest one.

Many thanks.

Any idea, cheapest verbatim bdr 25' around 10-15 package or so. Preferably under $2 will be preferable.

I have both pioneer and lg on order. Unfortunately might have to return or sell lg.

Price diff was about $70-80 bucks though:(

I like the Pioneer 205 too, but for whatever reason it will not play newer DVD titles. If I put in the DVD I received with the Toy Story Blu-ray combo pack, it will sit in the drive and try to load. It won't even recognize the disc. Its weird. Not sure if anything is wrong with my drive, but it plays Blu-rays without a hitch and also reads/writes them well. Sometimes I get what seems to be unburned rings, but the disc will playback fine.

Any idea, cheapest verbatim bdr 25' around 10-15 package or so. Preferably under $2 will be preferable.

Not quite $2/disc, but newegg has a 10 pack for $22 shipped, after applying the promo code VER3OFF at checkout:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130047&cm_re=verbatim_bd-r_4x-_-17-130-047-_-Product

I have a movie that is region B;

I need to remove the region B so I can play in on my standalone player. I have tried ripping it to hdd successfully removing the region and can now play it from the hdd on my computer.

However when I try to burn it back to disc with either Nero or imgburn on a Verbatium 50gb disc I get "could not perform start of Disc-at-once" error at the beginning and the blank become unusable.

I also tried disc to disc with the same result, I know the burner works because I have used 25gb discs in the past and they work just fine.

The Verbatim discs I purchased locally (only ones I could find at three different stores) are 6X speed. I did notice that both Nero and imgburn are trying to burn back at 2x speed which might be the problem.

Anyone know if higher speed discs are backwards compatible with slower burners?

FWIW I was somewhat astonished today to learn that I could mux & ImgBurn a 1920x1080 program (with 640Kbps AC3 and Subtitle track) to CD-R and it plays back perfectly as a Blu-ray disc using Arcsoft TMT. Amazing--I didn't even down-grade the bitrate from the original (a 2 1/2 minute promo from a BD disc) which peaked sometimes at 25Mbs.

They didn't play on my set-top BD player (read them as DATA discs), but who knows, maybe other players will like them.

Not sure yet how often I'll want to burn 5mins of HD to a CD-R, but there you have it, My Blu-Ray Movie Burning Experiece for July 2010. :)

$1.50 for each BD-R (20 pack) w/free shipping: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002WCRC2S/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I just discovered a way to strip the unrated version of Hot Tub Time Machine from the rental Blu-ray.

Use AnyDVD HD to rip the files to hard drive. Then open the ripped files with Clown BD. When you get to the eac3to portion, you'll be presented with six playlists, the first two of which are 1:40:37 and 1:38:56. Choose 1:40:37. The resulting movie-only ripped files, with just the English soundtrack and English subtitles, are 27.2 GB.

This may be more trouble than it's worth, but just so you know, the unrated version IS on there. I think it's just blocked so the average person can't play it with their standalone player. It'd be interesting to see if there's any kind of workaround.

Just make sure you destroy the copy before you return the movie, so you don't copyright infringe. I wrote it to a BD-RE DL, watched it on a standalone Panasonic DMP-BD60, and wrote back over it before returning it.

You know - I ripped the Netflix version and when ToNMT gave me two options I was stumped at first and confused - I've been giving options in the past but usually I can 'see' which is which by playing the movie and seeing the options - there was no 'unrated' option on the Netflix one and the running times available were two: the one stated on the sleeve and a longer one. I decided to rip both since I knew the retail version was 'unrated' and wondered if the longer version would be 'that' one. I can see from your post it is (and it's the one we watched last night). So now I'll delete the 'other' one!

I have a movie that is region B;

I need to remove the region B so I can play in on my standalone player. I have tried ripping it to hdd successfully removing the region and can now play it from the hdd on my computer.

However when I try to burn it back to disc with either Nero or imgburn on a Verbatium 50gb disc I get "could not perform start of Disc-at-once" error at the beginning and the blank become unusable.

I also tried disc to disc with the same result, I know the burner works because I have used 25gb discs in the past and they work just fine.

The Verbatim discs I purchased locally (only ones I could find at three different stores) are 6X speed. I did notice that both Nero and imgburn are trying to burn back at 2x speed which might be the problem.

Anyone know if higher speed discs are backwards compatible with slower burners?

It was the Verbatim discs, I switched to Sony discs and it work just fine.

I burned some home video on a BD-R 25GB Blu-ray disc. When I put it in my PS3 it plays fine, but it treats each individual file as a separate video. I have over 300 files I just want it to play back to back. Right now it will play a file, then pause at the end and I have to manually go back to the list of files and select the next one. I have Vegas Pro 9 but don't know how to use it very well and my computer isn't fast enough to keep up with HD editing. Is there a simple way I can edit the video in Nero before it burns?

Thanks for any help!

PS3 files have to be named numerically sequential to play in order without stopping. There is also a setting under video settings to enable this feature.

ex.

file1.avi
file2.avi
file3.avi

PS3 files have to be named numerically sequential to play in order without stopping. There is also a setting under video settings to enable this feature.

ex.

file1.avi
file2.avi
file3.avi
The files were already named 0001,0002,0003,etc. So I enabled the setting you were talking about and it works. :)

Do you know if I can name the files anything I want, as long as it ends in a number?

Thank you!!

For ripping, AnyDVD HD is the most updated but is not cheap. And most Blu-rays are originally bigger than 25 GB. For the few that are smaller, you can use AnyDVD HD to create an ISO, then burn with ImgBurn. For the ones that are bigger, you can (sometimes) strip out just the main movie and use (free) Clown BD and get it under 25 GB. If you can't get the whole movie under 25 GB, or you want the whole disc with menus and extras, (free) BD Rebuilder can shrink it down to 25 GB, but it can take hours. As a matter of fact, it takes roughly 7 hours on my Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.00 GHz.

Is Clown BD faster than BD Rebuilder if you just rip the main movie?

Thanks

Clown BD is usually faster as it does not re-encode the file. BD Rebuilder will re-encode to make the file size smaller.

On my 4 GHz I7-930 (overclocked) it takes BD Rebuilder about 45 minutes to re-encode a 2 hour file to a smaller size running Win 7 64 bit.

Mike T

RE: Pioneer BDR-205BKS (no RipLock)

Firmware 1.03 & 1.04 are good

V1.08 degrades DVD performance & does not allow reverting to a previous version.
http://club.myce.com/f142/firmware-oem-bdr-205-a-311987/#post2520242
http://club.myce.com/f142/post-new-drives-firmware-tool-announcements-here-223975/

Many BR burners have RipLock which cannot be worked around

However when I try to burn it back to disc with either Nero or imgburn on a Verbatium 50gb disc I get "could not perform start of Disc-at-once" error at the beginning and the blank become unusable.

I also tried disc to disc with the same result, I know the burner works because I have used 25gb discs in the past and they work just fine.


got the same problem using a Liteon ihbs112 burner. Tryed reading around and seems a common problem related to the firmware+the media used...
Right now liteon has pull out a new firmware for that unit!
better start upgrading and hope well :cool:

I have installed LG WH10LS30K BLACK SATA LIGHTSCRIBE 10X BLU on my desktop, window 7 prof 64bit, i use image sftware to burn iso bd image on 25gb re bd re but it writes 96% and then error, not finish. I am using verbatim bd re 2X. pls advise?

thanks

I have installed LG WH10LS30K BLACK SATA LIGHTSCRIBE 10X BLU on my desktop, window 7 prof 64bit, i use image sftware to burn iso bd image on 25gb re bd re but it writes 96% and then error, not finish. I am using verbatim bd re 2X. pls advise?

thanks

What burning software do you use?

I have almost the same drive, but without K - WH10LS30 (may be it is the same) installed into PC with Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bit and don't have any problems with it. I use ImgBurn. It burns my Fujifilm, Panasonic, TDK, Verbatim, Philips 2x BD-RE disks at 2.3x.

What burning software do you use?

I have almost the same drive, but without K - WH10LS30 (may be it is the same) installed into PC with Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bit and don't have any problems with it. I use ImgBurn. It burns my Fujifilm, Panasonic, TDK, Verbatim, Philips 2x BD-RE disks at 2.3x.

thanks.
ImgBurn, also tried making a bd 25 with dvd fab platinum and burning and failed again!

i would hate to remove and send back and buy pioneer though! i think it is same like urs!is there a fw upgrade? I just got it from newegg

LG WH10LS30K drive has Riplock

Omnipatch might "fix" this

How long does it take to burn on a 2x BD-R anyway?

LG WH10LS30K drive has Riplock

Omnipatch might "fix" this

Thanks Doug,

How do and from where do I install omnipatch?

How long does it take to burn on a 2x BD-R anyway?

BD25 around 4 hrs or so:D

RE: Pioneer BDR-205BKS (no RipLock)

Firmware 1.03 & 1.04 are good

V1.08 degrades DVD performance & does not allow reverting to a previous version.
http://club.myce.com/f142/firmware-oem-bdr-205-a-311987/#post2520242
http://club.myce.com/f142/post-new-drives-firmware-tool-announcements-here-223975/

Many BR burners have RipLock which cannot be worked around

LG WH10LS30K drive has Riplock

Omnipatch might "fix" this

I'm thinking about purchasing a BD burner, and these are the two options I'm considering. Was leaning towards the LG because of the significant price difference. I didn't know about this riplock thing, and I searched the forums and really didn't find much on it. How do we know these drives do/don't have riplock, and if they do, IS there a way around it?

I'm thinking about purchasing a BD burner, and these are the two options I'm considering. Was leaning towards the LG because of the significant price difference. I didn't know about this riplock thing, and I searched the forums and really didn't find much on it. How do we know these drives do/don't have riplock, and if they do, IS there a way around it?

same dilemma installed lg, does not burn bd re

I did some quick searches for burners and media. I noticed burners write up to 12x but the media itself seems to be rated at 2x or 4x?

And media seems to be at least a buck for the BD-R 25 GB and $30 for the BD-RE 50GB?

How reliable are the drives and the mastering software? Do you get a lot of coasters? How mature are the tools for mastering and converting the content to the necessary formats?

Can you reliably burn and then play on the PS3 for instance, or any given Blu-Ray player?

Is it easy to burn DVR recordings or are there issues with DRM? How about burning video from your own video cameras or DSLRs?

Ace et al

See myce.com forums & the forums for your "archiving" software.


WC

DVR's
- like the Bell issued PVR are encrypted
The PVR even formats any external HDD's hooked to it.
- I hooked my laptop via USB to it - but while it sees the drive - no data is shown. I have searched but haven't found a way to get in there.
- I have a 1TB drive hooked to my PVR & it is even PVR dedicated as in I can't play stored programs to another identical PVR!

Speeds
- dependant on PC power, media type/brand & burning software used.

How long does it take to burn on a 2x BD-R anyway?

I have the LG drive, original firmware and I burn using Imgburn free software. Burning 25 GB BD-RE seems to burn only at 1X and it takes about 80-90 minutes. A 25 GB BD-R rated at 2X takes about 45 minutes to burn at 2X.

I got a 25 pack of Kodak 4X printable BD-R disks for $43 at Fry's a few days ago. I have burned about 30-40 BD-R disks and have only had 1 bad disk, a Ridata disk. I suggest you use a BD-RE to make sure your BD disk is properly authored and if it plays correctly then burn to a BD-R disk, I have saved some disks by first checking playback with a BD-RE disk.

Copying a Blu-Ray disk my hard drive takes about 40 minutes using AnyDVD software.

Correctly authored BD disks have played just fine on my fat PS3 and Panasonic BD-300 Blu-Ray player.

Mike T

Has anything changed in the way of AVCHD authoring software in the past year? I'm looking for software that can author AVCHD with custom menus, including custom sub-menus, allows for no fewer than 12 videos in menus, and can import video without re-encoding. Previously the best I could find that supported these features was Total Media Extreme, but it has a couple bugs and the newer version has dropped some features. Basically I'm considering reauthoring the disk in my signature and was curious if there's any better solution. I was hoping that Adobe would allow for AVCHD output on the new version, but Encore had about one significant authoring change.

Do BD-RE play on PS3 too? I guess it's possible to use BD-RE to prototype and test before committing to BD-R but how many cycles of writes can you do on these $20-30 BD-RE media?

So media price hasn't gone down that much, it seems.

I recall when Apple starting shipping SuperDrives, DVD-Rs were expensive too but the high profile they got seemed to help them come down a lot in price.

Do BD-RE play on PS3 too? I guess it's possible to use BD-RE to prototype and test before committing to BD-R but how many cycles of writes can you do on these $20-30 BD-RE media?

No issues playing them on the PS3. I use them as a test before burning them permanently to BD-R.

I tried to burn Verbatim BRE 25 3X with 3 diff softwares , failed with 4 page log.

I will try another type of BD RE 25 discs, and if still fail, LG goes back.

Has anything changed in the way of AVCHD authoring software in the past year? I'm looking for software that can author AVCHD with custom menus, including custom sub-menus, allows for no fewer than 12 videos in menus, and can import video without re-encoding. Previously the best I could find that supported these features was Total Media Extreme, but it has a couple bugs and the newer version has dropped some features. Basically I'm considering reauthoring the disk in my signature and was curious if there's any better solution. I was hoping that Adobe would allow for AVCHD output on the new version, but Encore had about one significant authoring change.

alluringreality,

multiAVCHD is your friend. Does exactly what you are looking for.
This is my only software for authoring Blu-rays and AVCHDs.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/multiAVCHD
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744

I tried to burn Verbatim BRE 25 3X with 3 diff softwares , failed with 4 page log.

I will try another type of BD RE 25 discs, and if still fail, LG goes back.

I have used Sony, Panasonic and Verbatim 25 GB BD-RE disks without any problems in my old PS3 and BD-300 players all burned with Imgburn, they all burn at 1X though. I have a 50GB BD-RE that also plays just fine in both my Blu-Ray players. The 25GB RE's cost about $10 and the 50 GB RE was $25.

These were burned with an LG GGW-H20L and a LG BH10LS30.

Mike T

I have used Sony, Panasonic and Verbatim 25 GB BD-RE disks without any problems in my old PS3 and BD-300 players all burned with Imgburn, they all burn at 1X though. I have a 50GB BD-RE that also plays just fine in both my Blu-Ray players. The 25GB RE's cost about $10 and the 50 GB RE was $25.

These were burned with an LG GGW-H20L and a LG BH10LS30.

Mike T

It beats me! it quits at 90% or so on my computer. I am not tech savvy and have 4 pages of log saved:(

i played disc on ps3, it did load it but played back only audio lol

multiAVCHD is your friend. Does exactly what you are looking for.
This is my only software for authoring Blu-rays and AVCHDs.

Thanks for the reply. It appears the general menu authoring is probably similar to the last time I looked at the program. I don't see how I would create different menus for say comedy, drama, action, etc.

One thing that appears to be new is the reauthoring. I thought it might allow me to convert HDMV from Encore to AVCHD, but I got a black menu when I tried to play the disc on PowerDVD. We had this same issue using AVCHD-Patcher, which is part of the reason we reverted to the commercial AVCHD authoring software.

It beats me! it quits at 90% or so on my computer. I am not tech savvy and have 4 pages of log saved:(

i played disc on ps3, it did load it but played back only audio lol

I am wondering if it is window 7 compatibility issue? I have W 7 Ultimate 32 Bit?

I am wondering if it is window 7 compatibility issue? I have W 7 Ultimate 32 Bit?

Sounds like either a media or burner issue.

I use imgburn, have W7 64 Ultimate and have a LG (GGW-H20L according to W7) BD burner and I have burnt CDs, DVDs and BDs on it with no issue.

If you haven't find a BD RE of a different brand and try that (cheaper in the long run). If that still fails, send it back. You have a defective unit.

Seggers

Sounds like either a media or burner issue.

I use imgburn, have W7 64 Ultimate and have a LG (GGW-H20L according to W7) BD burner and I have burnt CDs, DVDs and BDs on it with no issue.

If you haven't find a BD RE of a different brand and try that (cheaper in the long run). If that still fails, send it back. You have a defective unit.

Seggers

yup! That is the plan! I orfdered a diff brand RE to re check, if still fails will send it back!

yup! That is the plan! I orfdered a diff brand RE to re check, if still fails will send it back!

Not that it's probably needed, but I'll clarify what 'it' is from above. The LG BD burner and not the BD RE disc.... Sometimes I know what I meant, even if I think others may not have... :D

Seggers

I am burning my first disc now and will report back my results.
Specs.
Win7 64 Ultimate
LG WH10lS30
Memorex BD-RE, IMG Burn disc ID says RITEK-BW-01 (bought this one at office depot)
Authored with BD rebuilder.
I will be able to test this disc on a PS3 older style 60gig HD I think, and an Insignia Blu-Ray set top player from Best Buy.

I do have a question for more the more experienced burners out there, does it hurt to do other things with your comp while burning? I remember the early days of CD burning you had to leave it alone or you ended up with coasters!

Thanks,
Kevin C. :)

I am burning my first disc now and will report back my results.
Specs.
Win7 64 Ultimate
LG WH10lS30
Memorex BD-RE, IMG Burn disc ID says RITEK-BW-01 (bought this one at office depot)
Authored with BD rebuilder.
I will be able to test this disc on a PS3 older style 60gig HD I think, and an Insignia Blu-Ray set top player from Best Buy.

I do have a question for more the more experienced burners out there, does it hurt to do other things with your comp while burning? I remember the early days of CD burning you had to leave it alone or you ended up with coasters!

Thanks,
Kevin C. :)

Kevin,

Whilst burning a BD RE 50 last night, I had 2 other apps running. One was copying a bunch of stuff to my NAS, the other was turning a .tivo file into something useful.

The caveat here is that it's OK to do other stuff as long as it doesn't adversly affect the performace, or buffer, of the burning app.

Seggers

Thanks for the reply seggers.

Unfortunately my first burn was an epic failure!
Luckily it is a BDre and I can re do it. But I am not sure if the authoring is wrong.
It plays fine with power dvd 8 in the computer but neither the ps3 or the insignia player
Has anyone else tried to burn with the memorex in the ps3? I think I will try to take
The one I burned to best buy and test it on some of their players, and while I am there
Pick up some different brands of media.

Thanks for any tips.
Kevin C.

Thanks for the reply seggers.

Unfortunately my first burn was an epic failure!
Luckily it is a BDre and I can re do it. But I am not sure if the authoring is wrong.
It plays fine with power dvd 8 in the computer but neither the ps3 or the insignia player
Has anyone else tried to burn with the memorex in the ps3? I think I will try to take
The one I burned to best buy and test it on some of their players, and while I am there
Pick up some different brands of media.

Thanks for any tips.
Kevin C.

A couple of questions:

1. You finalised the BD before removing it from the burner? The PC might be more fogiving than a stand alone.
2. What apps are you using to authour the content and burn it?

If you're using BD-Rebuilding, do you need to patch one of the files?

Seggers

Just bought some verbatim bd-rs 25 gig. I will try them tonight. Does anyone know
A good way to verify your authoring is right? It would be nice to beable to take that out
Of the equation.

Thanks,
Kevin C.

Seggers,
I used bd rebuilder to author it. I basically used the milotis tutorial found earlier
In this thread. It said it was done before I took the disc out? I used IMG burn to burn it.
Not sure what version it was but I can check that later. On the page where you pick the
Udf2.5 there was an extra option that wasn't in the tutorial, I picked the first one of two.
Tonight I will try toggling it the other way.

Thanks.
Kevin c.

Seggers,
I used bd rebuilder to author it. I basically used the milotis tutorial found earlier
In this thread. It said it was done before I took the disc out? I used IMG burn to burn it.
Not sure what version it was but I can check that later. On the page where you pick the
Udf2.5 there was an extra option that wasn't in the tutorial, I picked the first one of two.
Tonight I will try toggling it the other way.

Thanks.
Kevin c.

Somewhere in there it makes reference to needing a patch applied to 2 files in the root of the project. A bit needs to be switched. And it needs to be done prior to the project being burnt. Did you do this?

I've used that guide and not had issues with play back of BDs in my PS3.

Seggers

Yeah I did the patch thing where you switch the 0200 to the 0100. It said patch done
Or whatever, don't remember now it was quite early this morning when I did it.
I think I will download the older version of imgburn that was in the tutorial that didn't
Have the extra option and try that.

I really don't want to try the verbatims I bought yet because the are not rewritable
And I overpaid for them anyway because the were local.

Thanks again,
Kevin

multiAVCHD is your friend.

Thanks again, because I probably wouldn't have given this program a second look otherwise. After some modifications of the Encore CS5 HDMV and using the multiAVCHD re-author I think I might have a working disc.

Yeah I did the patch thing where you switch the 0200 to the 0100. It said patch done

That's related to AVCHD. Like the guide is trying to say, it's not necessary for BD-R or BD-RE media. I don't know that the AVCHD extended info would stop the PS3 from playing, but it's possible that things could have changed with firmware. Insigna seems to vary on what they will and will not play depending on model, so the AVCHD info might very well stop it from playing. Basically don't use AVCHD-Patcher unless you're burning to DVD media, and it didn't sound like you're using DVD media.

For anyone that is burning to DVD, re-authoring in multiAVCHD and choosing one of the AVCHD options is rather similar to what AVCHD-Patcher is doing.

Thanks again, because I probably wouldn't have given this program a second look otherwise. After some modifications of the Encore CS5 HDMV and using the multiAVCHD re-author I think I might have a working disc.

No problem.

I just finished burning Blu-ray project (18GB) with ImgBurn, authored with MultiAVCHD, to Memorex 25GB 4x BD-R disk.

This is what ImgBurn showed during burning:

Drive: HL-DT-ST-BD-RE WH10LS30 (which is LG and Hitachi joint venture)
Media: RITEK-BR2-00 (Memorex brand 4x BD-R)
Write Rate: 35,000 KB/s (8x) (it was maximum speed at the end)
Burning time: 11 minutes.

So, ImgBurn burned 18GB on 4x Memorex BD-R disk at 4-8x in 11 minutes with LG WH10LS30 burner on Windows 7 Enterprise 64 bit.

Sweet!

My problem must have been the Memorex BDRE 25. I tried burning
My first verbatim bdr-25 tonight and it worked fine off of the same
Authored material!

The BDRE did still play in my computer but not in the PS3 and insignia
Curiously I burned them both using the same options but under my blu
Drive in windows 7 only the verbatim shows up in the label as UDF file
Format. But if you right click on the bdre disc and go to properties it
Says it is also in UDF format!

My problem must have been the Memorex BDRE 25. I tried burning
My first verbatim bdr-25 tonight and it worked fine off of the same
Authored material!

The BDRE did still play in my computer but not in the PS3 and insignia
Curiously I burned them both using the same options but under my blu
Drive in windows 7 only the verbatim shows up in the label as UDF file
Format. But if you right click on the bdre disc and go to properties it
Says it is also in UDF format!

I have used DVD fab to make bd 25' that are bigger than what bd re can hold, I guess thus failure!

My problem must have been the Memorex BDRE 25. I tried burning
My first verbatim bdr-25 tonight and it worked fine off of the same
Authored material!

The BDRE did still play in my computer but not in the PS3 and insignia
Curiously I burned them both using the same options but under my blu
Drive in windows 7 only the verbatim shows up in the label as UDF file
Format. But if you right click on the bdre disc and go to properties it
Says it is also in UDF format!

memorex is the worst discs i ever used
i would eliminate if i were you by using different brand
i give a rating.5 out of three stars just coz they tried to mae a hidef disc

Guys now with LG burner, I can burn, and play Bluray disc on my pc, but both Verbatim and ritek RE are no go on my ps3, plays only audio..

Any advise? more so if u are making a bd 25 what is suitable size for BD 25 RE?

Guys now with LG burner, I can burn, and play Bluray disc on my pc, but both Verbatim and ritek RE are no go on my ps3, plays only audio..

Any advise? more so if u are making a bd 25 what is suitable size for BD 25 RE?

Make sure you are authoring for Blu-Ray folder structure and not AVCHD. AVCHD is for burning onto DVD disks and not BD disks. I have no problems with burning BD or BD-RE disks that play on my PS3 both 25 GB and 50GB. If I burn a BD disk with a AVCHD folder then it will not play on the PS3.

For 25 Gb I use 23,866 MBytes for max size.

Mike T

Make sure you are authoring for Blu-Ray folder structure and not AVCHD. AVCHD is for burning onto DVD disks and not BD disks. I have no problems with burning BD or BD-RE disks that play on my PS3 both 25 GB and 50GB. If I burn a BD disk with a AVCHD folder then it will not play on the PS3.

For 25 Gb I use 23,866 MBytes for max size.

Mike T

I had BDMV and Certificate file, that I created with TsRemux and then burnt it with image burn( burn files to make bluray) My Sony 570 player did play it back, so did LG Burner too, but seems image is all stretched filling up 16x9 TV entire screen:confused:Some how not working write for me:(

I have an ISO BD 25 of AVATAR, how should I burn it?

Zoro,
Have you checked out bd rebuilder? It will pretty much do the job for you.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Are you trying BDR or BDRE? I have only tried a Memorex BDRE and it failed miserably.
I have had luck with verbatim BDR's.

Mtallent,
Which BD-RE's do you use with your LG and PS3?

Zoro,
Have you checked out bd rebuilder? It will pretty much do the job for you.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Are you trying BDR or BDRE? I have only tried a Memorex BDRE and it failed miserably.
I have had luck with verbatim BDR's.

Mtallent,
Which BD-RE's do you use with your LG and PS3?

Thanks Man.

I used VERBATIM BD RE 25 GB

Verbatim 95358 25 GB 2x Blu-ray Single Layer Branded ReWritable Disc BD-RE, 1-Disc Jewel Case
and
Ritek Ridata BD-RE-252-RD-JC 25GB 2X Speed Single Sided Single Layer Rewritable Blu-ray 2X Disc - Jewel Case

I have not tried BD R 25 GB yet! Because I did not want to create coasters without checking success on BD RE!

any idea? any experience

is it external, and how good?

LG 2TB Network Attached Storage with Blu-ray Re-Writer

Is there any way to split 45 GB into two disc, un compressed? dvd fab , BD rebuild or clown etc?

Is there any way to split 45 GB into two disc, un compressed? dvd fab , BD rebuild or clown etc?

Iam using Tsmuxer for alongtime to make spilt disc it works really good

I strongly recommend tsmuxer

I had BDMV and Certificate file, that I created with TsRemux and then burnt it with image burn( burn files to make bluray) My Sony 570 player did play it back, so did LG Burner too, but seems image is all stretched filling up 16x9 TV entire screen:confused:Some how not working write for me:(

I have an ISO BD 25 of AVATAR, how should I burn it?

I would not use TsRemux for making the BD folders, it has not been updated for a long time. I have had no problem using TsmuxeR for making the Blu-Ray folders for a BD25 disks. It can be used to split the file and also add chapters.

For burning I usually use Imgburn, works great and is free.

Mike T

I would not use TsRemux for making the BD folders, it has not been updated for a long time. I have had no problem using TsmuxeR for making the Blu-Ray folders for a BD25 disks. It can be used to split the file and also add chapters.

For burning I usually use Imgburn, works great and is free.

Mike T

Thanks guys! Is there any tutorial re this I can consult specifically playability of bd 25 and bd re on ps3.
Thanks

I would not use TsRemux for making the BD folders, it has not been updated for a long time. I have had no problem using TsmuxeR for making the Blu-Ray folders for a BD25 disks. It can be used to split the file and also add chapters.

For burning I usually use Imgburn, works great and is free.

Mike T

Is there a way to get TsmuxeR to make two BR 25 disks when splitting a 50 GB BR instead of just two mts files into one BR Stream folder?

fafner

I would suggest re-encoding it to fit on a 25GB disk. I hate having to switch disks in the middle. I have done many re-encodes and it is very hard to see any difference in quality, even going down to 12 GB still looked really good viewing at 7 feet from my 65 inch 1080P DLP set.

BD-Rebuilder is pretty easy to use and on my 4GHz (overclocked) Intel I7-930 computer the re-encode takes about 30-45 minutes to finish using BD-Rebuilder from Doom9 forum.

Mike T

I don't want to re-encode it. I would prefer to switch discs than to lose any PQ or AQ at all.

fafner

I don't want to re-encode it. I would prefer to switch discs than to lose any PQ or AQ at all.

fafner

Then why not just buy BD 50s and avoid any hassles at all?

I have a habit of getting the whole disc, but stripping out all but the film and the best sound track. That can do wonders to how much room a film can take up. Plus you don't loose any PQ or AQ.

Seggers

Then why not just buy BD 50s and avoid any hassles at all?

Seggers

The answer should be obvious: cost.

fafner

I would like to split too, ESP long films like avatar where just for movie with HD audio only to bd 25 is from 45 to 25 gb is bat 50% or so compressed.

I would like to split too, ESP long films like avatar where just for movie with HD audio only to bd 25 is from 45 to 25 gb is bat 50% or so compressed.

You should try re-encoding, I am very picky about video quality, I designed video equipment for broadcast for about 30 years and I have been amazed by how good re-encoding BD files can look. Don't dismiss it until you have tried it use BDRebuilder it is easy and will keep loss less audio if you want it and will re-encode to fit on a BD25 disk. If you want forced subtitles, you will have to identify the forced sub track and turn it on in BDRebuilder settings. It will ONLY cost a little time and you can put it on a BD-RE so you can erase it if you don't like it.

Mike T

Why do you keep telling us to do something we have already said we don't want to do? Please help us with our actual question or just ignore our posts. Thanks.

fafner

Generally tsMuxeR works with individual streams, but Blu-rays are more based on playlists. There are a lot of options in multiAVCHD (http://multiforum.deanbg.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17), and it allows editing of playlists. It would probably be possible to use multiAVCHD for the example of splitting a movie, but it might require some knowledge of Blu-ray authoring. Using a program that would pare a Blu-ray down to just the main movie might also help. There is a button at the top of the multiAVCHD program's window that will allow you to import a BDMV folder for re-authoring. When it imports it will give duration times for the playlists. After importing the folder you can click on a playlist or title to edit properties. I see items in there like cut start and cut end.

The answer should be obvious: cost.

fafner

So you'd rather spend more and have 2 BD25s, than 1 and get a 50? Errr, it's your money I suppose....

Personally, if I was that bothered by trying to split a film, then I'd spilt the difference and just go with bigger discs.

Seggers