What is the best projector for $1,500.00

Tried the hd70- it was ok
Ordered the sony hs 60----Now I read lumens are overstated???


HELP please

DT-500 by Sharp - best picture but a slightly loud 29Db. Bright.

What is the best projector for $1,500.00

Tried the hd70- it was ok
Ordered the sony hs 60----Now I read lumens are overstated???


HELP please

UNLESS you are used to a 1080P FP, most 720P will "wao" you no matter what.
Dont read about the PJ you ordered anymore, just wait to get it and enjoy. The projectors that came out 2 years ago were enough to WAO most people, and they have come a long way since. Nothing is perfect, if you want perfection check the $20,000 FP forum.

What is the best projector for $1,500.00

Tried the hd70- it was ok
Ordered the sony hs 60----Now I read lumens are overstated???


HELP please

If you have light controlled room should not have any problem with its lumen. Even with some ambient light it looks good as long as the light is not directed onto the screen.
There is not really such thing as best PJ. Define your best PJ (what you actually want in a pj) then some one might be able to help you out.

It's true... don't let reading reviews talk you out of your purchase :). Get it, try it, and see for yourself. 720p looks very nice, and if I hadn't gotten a huge deal on a 1080p I'd still be there myself.

What is the best projector for $1,500.00

Tried the hd70- it was ok
Ordered the sony hs 60----Now I read lumens are overstated???


HELP please

I'm going out on a limb here. I'm nominating the new Sony HS60 replacement (3LCD VPL-AW15) as a contender. It seems to be employing some 'Pearl' goodness in a 720p LCD package. Early chatter says under $1500 street.
But, we will all have to wait.

I kind of gave my thoguhts on this topic here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=816743

after disappointment with hd 70 i ordered the sony hs60....best buys screen was not working so they could not show me the hs 60 but convincd me for$ 600 more it was better.... Finally they got the screen to come down and compare the hs 60 with the hd70..... wow I scrweed up... the hd 70 out performed the hs 60 by a mile. of course the manager later said that the sony needed a bulb change. Guess I will buy the hd 70 back and shorten my distance from 19 feet to 10 feet eliminate my ceiling fan and look for some skiny cables and be happy--- thanks for the input

John

DLP will generally outperform LCD for SIMILAR price range IF you are not rainbow prone and does NOT need placement flexibility of LCD (minimal offset, lens shift, etc.).

It is hard to buy a pj that doesn't look good even in store.
BB is the not really the best place to demo. I saw the pearl and Sharp 3000 in Magnolia and both looked terrible. With all the lights and smallish gray screen and al the parameters totally screwd up, it is hardly possible. Other than brightness it would be hard to beat HS60 by any under 2k pj. It amazes me how quickly DLP owners jump in try to score as soon as a dlp is chosen over LCD regardless of situation. In show rooms always PJ's with higher lumen look better.

It is hard to buy a pj that doesn't look good even in store.
BB is the not really the best place to demo. I saw the pearl and Sharp 3000 in Magnolia and both looked terrible. With all the lights and smallish gray screen and al the parameters totally screwd up, it is hardly possible. Other than brightness it would be hard to beat HS60 by any under 2k pj. It amazes me how quickly DLP owners jump in try to score as soon as a dlp is chosen over LCD no regardless of situation. In show rooms always PJ's with higher lumen look better.

And, the winner is...

....the BRIGHTER projector.


Don't worry. The new upcoming Sony 720p 3lcd machine should make amends. I know I want a look-see.

And, the winner is...

....the BRIGHTER projector.


Don't worry. The new upcoming Sony 720p 3lcd machine should make amends. I know I want a look-see.

This was a show room unit and who knows how many hours on the bulb.
Sony by default is set for contrast ratio.

Bright or dim it it is not a pj to put out a artifact ridden image.

CRT puts an amazing PQ with a lumen far less than HS60.

Once home and RGB tweaks... lumen up.

With that in mind my Sony in Cinema mode ((the dimmest) after 220 hrs looks as bright as Sharp xr-10x with its contrast at zero (in the middle). in Dynamic mode it becomes seriously bright. And I am not even in hi lamp mode. You believe what you wanta believe CRMA. :rolleyes:

You believe what you wanta believe CRMA. :rolleyes:

I wanna believe this:

"In BRAVIA front projection, the 1280 x 720p resolution 3LCD VPL-AW15 unit was introduced. The model features high brightness of 1,100 lumens and dynamic contrast at 12,000:1 (with Advanced Iris 2 operating), offering a viable entry into high-quality front projection home theater.

I also want to believe this:

"MSRP is $1299.

Yes, that's not a misprint.

720P, 1100 lumens, the iris out of the VW50, horizontal and vertical lens shift

Saw it side-by-side with the HS60 and it smoked it.

June. "

Methinks Sony is upping the 3LCD ante.

In this category, BRAVIA replaces the Cineza® brand previously carried by Sony’s front projectors."

I doubt any Sony product would do it for you. Been here for a long tim!

Caspian, since you say your 51a is as good as it is, and the 60 is its successor, and the Bravia is even the better according to this guy, how could I not want to explore the Sony-esp at this price point? Sony's less than competitive pricing in the past has had me looking elsewhere. Maybe it's Sony's turn to shine this time?

There is no difference between HS60 and 51A. The only difference is hs 60 lacking the ethernet connection.
As far as the new upcoming unit, I am looking forward to learn about it. If indeed it turns out as anticipated.. hello Sony AW-15. Having said that I will not switch if the difference is only brightness since I have no issue with HS51A in that regard.

I love these conversations because it doesn't matter if mfg a has new model 1 or mfg b has new model 2. They ALL keep delivering BETTER performance for LESS money! Consumer wins no matter what. Enjoy what ya got and be happy that your next one will be a lot better for a lot less money!

I love these conversations because it doesn't matter if mfg a has new model 1 or mfg b has new model 2. They ALL keep delivering BETTER performance for LESS money! Consumer wins no matter what. Enjoy what ya got and be happy that your next one will be a lot better for a lot less money!

Aint that a fact!! I bet it will be incremental unless Sony has developed new panels. Even at rated 1100 lumen it will not be a bright bright pj imo.
A rated lumen will equate to 70% less after calibration.

I bet it will be incremental unless Sony has developed new panels. Even at rated 1100 lumen it will not be a bright bright pj imo.All technology that is incremental or evolutionary in nature falls under "just gets better for cheaper" plan. If a truly new (revolutionary) technology is introduced it is first generation and usually carries a price premium required to recapture R&D costs and provides extra value to the buyer as an early adopter with "first on block" bragging rights.

The Sanyo PLVZ-5! ;)

Aint that a fact!! I bet it will be incremental unless Sony has developed new panels. Even at rated 1100 lumen it will not be a bright bright pj imo.
A rated lumen will equate to 70% less after calibration.

Not if they start calibrating them before they measure the lumen rating, like the Mit HD1000 and JCV D-ILA RS-1. They really should be put in thumb screws for advertising 1100 lumens and only putting out 300 after calibration...that's like advertising that a million dollar sportscar can go 200 mph but after you buy it the thing tops out at 60 and the salesman would tell you your not running it off space shuttle gasoline which is off limits to the public...OK, sorry for the bad analogy.

Not if they start calibrating them before they measure the lumen rating, like the Mit HD1000 and JCV D-ILA RS-1. They really should be put in thumb screws for advertising 1100 lumens and only putting out 300 after calibration...that's like advertising that a million dollar sportscar can go 200 mph but after you buy it the thing tops out at 60 and the salesman would tell you your not running it off space shuttle gasoline which is off limits to the public...OK, sorry for the bad analogy.

The advertised lumen is the top lumen in its torch mode. They hardly rate them for D65. JVC is true but there is no calibration can be made to it for the most part as far as know. Let see how long it will hold D65 with rated lumen.

Car manufacturers rate their cars by horsepower and irony is most of HP ratings are at the crankshaft not wheel unless it is specialized vehicle.

I'd like to upgrade from my DILA. Saw the HD70 today at BB. Source was an upconverting DVD.

My JVC G10 is much better at everything but CR and maybe brightness from my initial impression. Lots of horrendous pixelation/banding on edges and dithering noise or whatever up close. Really a showstopper. Don't know if it was the player or PJ but a smaller LCD from a parallel feed looked better.

What do you think?

when I purchased my hd70 there was a signifcant ofset- the projector needed to me mounted about 50% higher then the center of the picture. If I buy the sony hs 60 how is the offset figured or is it adjustable without picture degradation?

thanks


John