I never realized it but when Ken said that PlayStation 3 will be 4D, I thought it was
a bunch of marketing bull. But then they announced home. Then 4D really came true.
For all you people who doesn't know what is the 4th dimension is, it's time. So time
goes by Home as it would in real life.

I never realized it but when Ken said that PlayStation 3 will be 4D, I thought it was
a bunch of marketing bull. But then they announced home. Then 4D really came true.
For all you people who doesn't know what is the 4th dimension is, it's time. So time
goes by Home as it would in real life.I'll have what you're having?:confused:

I'll have what you're having?:confused:

I'll take a double.

trippy :o

I never realized it but when Ken said that PlayStation 3 will be 4D, I thought it was
a bunch of marketing bull. But then they announced home. Then 4D really came true.
For all you people who doesn't know what is the 4th dimension is, it's time. So time
goes by Home as it would in real life.

Share the booze with the rest of us, man.

LOOOOOOL I'm not kidding >_>

i get you but that is a one long shot

I get what you mean. Makes sense. (It's also the only thing that makes sense when he says 4D.)

Seriously, how is it hard to understand what I just typed? <_>

..... cut the meth use.

Seriously, how is it hard to understand what I just typed? <_>

The obvious answer to that question is.....maybe.

Seems like if it was a real world with a 4th deminision, your stuff would still be there when you left.

I don't see this as anything but a glorified lobby system. Guess some will like it, but I forsee myself liking a much quicker system for hooking up with friends, seeing if they are online, what they are doing, and what games they've been playing. With the PS3, I have to get them to log into HOME and then go to their place and look around? Some will like it, I imagine some wont. I willing to give it a try, but I suspect it's just not for me.

Seems like if it was a real world with a 4th deminision, your stuff would still be there when you left.

I don't see this as anything but a glorified lobby system. Guess some will like it, but I forsee myself liking a much quicker system for hooking up with friends, seeing if they are online, what they are doing, and what games they've been playing. With the PS3, I have to get them to log into HOME and then go to their place and look around? Some will like it, I imagine some wont. I willing to give it a try, but I suspect it's just not for me.


Dude you can still use the xmb to find people and see if they are online and in a game...The home is where you can get women to party at your virtual apartment....

If that's the case, I don't forsee myself ever using HOME, which is fine. I think I'm just missing what's so great about it other than a free sims type game that really isn't even really one big world, but multiple lobbies that probably have the same stores, etc. Sounds like a money generator when it all gets running. Not saying I have a problem with that...it's obviously optional.

Jesus. I am implementing on the word 4-D. 4th dimension is time. You can play a game in 4-D
which is Ken Kuturagi's saying. Playing a game with time passing you in game is 4-D. It isn't
hard to understand that. You people really need to stop playing video games too much.

Share the booze with the rest of us, man.


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=153368

like.no.other. ,

Not being rude here but I have to ask , do you work for Sony in some capacity or are you just an extreme brand loyalist ?

Again I mean no disrespect and I am being totally serious with my question so I would appreciate a truthful answer ( no shame either way I just would like to know as I don't want to assume what looks to be the obvious answer :) ) .


--- Jason

Jesus. I am implementing on the word 4-D. 4th dimension is time. You can play a game in 4-D
which is Ken Kuturagi's saying. Playing a game with time passing you in game is 4-D. It isn't
hard to understand that. You people really need to stop playing video games too much.

there are a few games out there that run 24/7. I remember there was a PC game i used to play that it corresponded with your time and your resources and the other sides would grow or weaken with time.

and likenoother you are on crack. I dont think you understand the term 4-d. haha.
how does Home make it like the PS3 suddenly has a concept of time. I dont see home as anything more than a glorified lobby.

OMG WORLD OF WARCRAFT HAS CONQUERED 4D ITS ELITEZ ITS ALWYAS ON AND TIME PASSES WHILE YOU PLAY13333333337777777.

if you stop making idiotic comments that you yourself dont understand, we'll stop playing videogames

Jesus. I am implementing on the word 4-D. 4th dimension is time. You can play a game in 4-D
which is Ken Kuturagi's saying. Playing a game with time passing you in game is 4-D. It isn't
hard to understand that. You people really need to stop playing video games too much.


So Ocarina of Time was 4-D ?? Time was passing by in that game too... Majora's Mask had the moon falling down and a clock ticking. Would that be 4-D? Sitting around in a virtual lobby as the day goes by is what you mean about 4-D?

I think like.no.other is just mocking crazy Kens 4D speech. Does 4D even exist? lol.

I get what you're saying. The extra "D" is for "Delightful!", right?

and playstation online interface is giving xboxlive fits :rolleyes: or motorstorm looks JUST like it did at E3 05' :cool: OR PLAYSTATION HOME IS AN ORGINAL THOUGHT OF SONY ;)

Guild Wars has a 3D lobby in it, you can show off your stuff. EQ2 and City of Heroes have bases/homes you can setup and others can see. In all of those games you can speak with one another and the decide on what you want to do next as a group. So I guess they are 4D now to.

Time in the 4D equation is controlling it, us living at home isn't controlling time. In your definition basically everything comes with the 4th D, time, yes we and everything is in some point of time. Control means going backward, forward or stopping it, having it run it's natural course isn't controlling it, it's controlling you, time pwns you, the PS3, At Home and Romero.

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9498/n770722233032242812rb9.jpg

like.no.other. ,

Not being rude here but I have to ask , do you work for Sony in some capacity or are you just an extreme brand loyalist ?

Again I mean no disrespect and I am being totally serious with my question so I would appreciate a truthful answer ( no shame either way I just would like to know as I don't want to assume what looks to be the obvious answer :) ) .


--- Jason
Nope I am not brand heavy. I don't like Sony when I know they suck at it. Like their
receiver/speakers. I'd rather have a Yamaha or Denon for my receiver which we
have. I guess people here doesn't have the same view as me :cool:. I know my
name is a little biased towards Sony, but I've been liking their company since '92.
They serve me well. But I don't drink, I am under age :confused: or do drugs for
that matter.

I've been trying to follow this thread from the beginning but I still have no idea what the OP is trying to say.:confused:

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9498/n770722233032242812rb9.jpg


Thanks, Jack. I just had to clean by computer screen. :D :D

He's talking about Physics.....Relative physics, not Newtonian Physics I believe.

The physical world has three dimensions. Length, Width, and Depth. But really, it has 4 dimensions. Length, Width, Depth..and Time. Or is this Quantum Physics..BAH...I have no idea, this is for paralyzed guys with big brains or men sitting in lab coats puffing on pipes thinking about Equations to answer, not mere internet goobers like us :)

How he thinks that time affects the "Home" world any more than it affects any of the rest of us when we are gaming, I have no idea.

Maybe they were referring to the 4th dimension of Time as in "How long are we going to have to wait for some @($*ing games to show up for the system?". Now that I can believe :D

I've been trying to follow this thread from the beginning but I still have no idea what the OP is trying to say.:confused:
The PS3 is 4D!

its.like.a.bad.marketing.campaign.or.something

He's talking about Physics.....Relative physics, not Newtonian Physics I believe.

The physical world has three dimensions. Length, Width, and Depth. But really, it has 4 dimensions. Length, Width, Depth..and Time. Or is this Quantum Physics..BAH...I have no idea, this is for paralyzed guys with big brains or men sitting in lab coats puffing on pipes thinking about Equations to answer, not mere internet goobers like us :)

How he thinks that time affects the "Home" world any more than it affects any of the rest of us when we are gaming, I have no idea.

Maybe they were referring to the 4th dimension of Time as in "How long are we going to have to wait for some @($*ing games to show up for the system?". Now that I can believe :D

OMG you are almost close to what I am trying to say! Hooray for someone actually
paying attention in class :D

Excerpts from Wikipedia...

Time is often referred to as the dimensional "fourth time repeated dimension." It is, in essence, one way to measure physical change. It is perceived very differently from the three spatial dimensions in that there is only one of it, and that movement seems to occur at a fixed rate and in one direction according to the Conjunction Theory by Andrew O'Desky in 1973.
We as humans can only perceive up to the third dimension while we have knowledge of our travel through the fourth. We, however can not perceive anything past the fourth.

For example, locating a point on a plane (e.g. a city on a map of the Earth) requires two parameters — latitude and longitude. The corresponding space has therefore two dimensions, its dimension is two, and this space is said to be 2-dimensional (2D). Locating the exact position of an aircraft in flight (relative to the Earth) requires another dimension (altitude), hence the position of the aircraft can be rendered in a three-dimensional space (3D).

If time is added as a 3rd or 4th dimension (to a 2D or 3D space, respectively), then the aircraft's estimated "speed" may be calculated from a comparison between the times associated with any two positions. For common uses, simply using "speed" (as a dimension) is a useful way of condensing (or translating) the more abstract time dimension, even if "speed" is not a dimension, but rather a calculation based on two dimensions.

This is also the reason why time-travel can be considered theoretically possible if talking about moving forward in time, but moving backwards in time would be impossible.

This is because we are all time travelers, we all get to see the future, one millisecond at a time.

Also, consider that time appears to slow-down the closer you get to the speed of light.

If a person were to fly off in a space-ship and approach the speed of light, to them, time moves slower than to observers watching the flight. When that ship returned to earth, the earth would have aged hundreds or thousands of years. But to that person on the flight, only a years worth of time would have passed. In essence, that person on the flight was able to fly into the future. Boom, time travel! But you could never go back to your own time as time, for you, would not stand still, it would just pass slower *relative to you*.

So basically, to wrap this up as far as this thread is concerned, Sony still doesn't have any of their A-List titles on the frickin shelf, and wont...perhaps for hundreds or thousands of years!!! :D

OMG you are almost close to what I am trying to say! Hooray for someone actually
paying attention in class :DYeah, I think in this case we actually have to do drugs to become as smart as you are.

What the hell are you talking about?!?!:confused:

So basically, to wrap this up as far as this thread is concerned, Sony still doesn't have any of their A-List titles on the frickin shelf, and wont...perhaps for hundreds or thousands of years!!! :D


Perhaps hundreds or thousands of years for you..but in reality only 1 yr for me as I am the one in that "light speed space ship" as you say.... :p

The 4th dimension is time and it's supposedly acessible from any point if one knows how. Having a game or application does not mean that the 4th dimension has been breached or introduced to any of us. It's always been there. Technically, Pong dealt with the 4th dimension in that it wasted many people's experience of the 4th dimension. Everything deals with the 4th dimension. Maybe that's a sweeping generalization, but it's probably safer to assume that Ken didn't know what the hell he was talking about and merely meant that the 4th dimension was not time, but his new virtual reality PShome application: another "dimension" to "live" in and experience "reality". Ken is trying to uproot Newton, who was already uprooted (for the most part) by Einstein. Ken wants to usher in a new world of Physics based on Brand Loyalty and trying to rape virtual female avatars in your virtual pad. Is that a crime? Depends on what standpoint you're viewing the act from: and that, I think, was the whole point of Einstein's relativity theories. Objects, places, events are not really where we think they are: it's from our relative viewpoints that we get the idea of where they are. Ken is seeing PShome as some great application that will change the gaming world. That is his relative viewpoint. I don't think Time has anything to do with Ken's ramblings.

Its amazing how what started out as a stupid thread, got sidetracked into something equally rediculous.

This is a thread about nothing.

This is also the reason why time-travel can be considered theoretically possible if talking about moving forward in time, but moving backwards in time would be impossible.

This is because we are all time travelers, we all get to see the future, one millisecond at a time.

Also, consider that time appears to slow-down the closer you get to the speed of light.

If a person were to fly off in a space-ship and approach the speed of light, to them, time moves slower than to observers watching the flight. When that ship returned to earth, the earth would have aged hundreds or thousands of years. But to that person on the flight, only a years worth of time would have passed. In essence, that person on the flight was able to fly into the future. Boom, time travel! But you could never go back to your own time as time, for you, would not stand still, it would just pass slower *relative to you*.

So basically, to wrap this up as far as this thread is concerned, Sony still doesn't have any of their A-List titles on the frickin shelf, and wont...perhaps for hundreds or thousands of years!!! :D

bravo...


i ilke talk like this..also google: ELOHIM

Yeah, I think in this case we actually have to do drugs to become as smart as you are.

What the hell are you talking about?!?!:confused:
If you don't understand, insult. You have a lovely philosophy on life.

I didn't have to google Elohim to know that it is the plural of the Hebrew "god" (El, Elohe being the more personal name). What in the world do the ELohim have to do with the 4th dimension? They supposedly created the world (or rather, formed it out of chaos), until the second Creational version in which the more personal name Yahweh is used. Are you referring to the use of "yom"? Or, are you trying to convert some dupes? BWahahahaa

If you don't understand, insult. You have a lovely philosophy on life.If you didn't notice, in his previous post he insulted everyone else in the thread who didn't understand his skewed logic.

And if you know what he's trying to say in this whole convoluted thread, please explain?

I'm still not sure what any of this has to do with gaming?

I haven't read KEN's statements on what he said. I'm only going on what has been said at the beginning of this thread. I don't feel like repeating my view on Ken's statement. It was already stated a few posts above. Some people choose to take his words as literal, methinks, and that's where the problem is.

If you didn't notice, in his previous post he insulted everyone else in the thread who didn't understand his skewed logic.

And if you know what he's trying to say in this whole convoluted thread, please explain?

I'm still not sure what any of this has to do with gaming?

He means to say that time passes in Home as it does in real life. And nothing more.

Take the XMB background for example - it's sunset, the yellow is nearing the bottom of the screen.

If this prediction is correct, I'm interested in how Sony is going to handle people in different timezones.

It's on a gaming console, if that gives it any connection.

OMG you are almost close to what I am trying to say! Hooray for someone actually
paying attention in class :D

wow i said that in my post. thanks

Leonard NImoy got mad at me when I spent too much time in real life and didn't feed my Seaman. Time still passed in the game! Oh my God! Sega Dreamcast taught me the meaning of... oh screw it. Buncha savages in this town. - Clerks.

This is a thread about nothing.

Truer words were never spoken....

He means to say that time passes in Home as it does in real life. And nothing more.

Take the XMB background for example - it's sunset, the yellow is nearing the bottom of the screen.

If this prediction is correct, I'm interested in how Sony is going to handle people in different timezones.

It's on a gaming console, if that gives it any connection.

Finally. This thread is not stupid if you pass your science class. People here who are
still slow, 4th dimension is equal to time. The Home passes time just like in real life.
I am under 18 and still passes your knowledge.

Finally. This thread is not stupid if you pass your science class. People here who are
still slow, 4th dimension is equal to time. The Home passes time just like in real life.
I am under 18 and still passes your knowledge.

Maybe if you passed your english class you could form more coherent sentences.

New sig time!

Holy Jesus you guys are immature. I am out. This is why I don't go to Home Theater Gaming
forum because there are bunch of immature people here that can't handle a little error.

Holy Jesus you guys are immature. I am out. This is why I don't go to Home Theater Gaming
forum because there are bunch of immature people here that can't handle a little error.
I can handle a little error (a lot actually) but irony is a whole different subject ;)

Holy Jesus you guys are immature. I am out. This is why I don't go to Home Theater Gaming
forum because there are bunch of immature people here that can't handle a little error.

Don't go away mad, just GO AWAY!

buh bye

Ahhh, it's the gems such as this thread that keep me reading the gaming forum here at avs. LOL

I agree that the ps3 introduced the 4th dimension (or time)_ in to their marketting scheme..

It's called WAITING.

Wait for the delayed release.
Wait for the promised fixes.
Wait for the new interface.
Wait for a decent game.

if that's the case i don't want the 4thd lol. i play video games to get away from real life, not to make me feel like i'm in another world with deadlines ha.

Oh and another thing, in my mind ken's 4D talk means absolutely nothing at this point, it's like predicting the end of a movie when you see the opening credits.

As this thread has seriously derailed I figured this would be a good place to mention that a commonly misspelled word on this forum is 'ridiculous' - so many people are spelling it 'rediculous'.

Why is that Sbarro guy showing up in every single thread on avs?

I wonder if like.no.other. is the same person who got banned late last year (Blu_All_Day)?

Rememer all of his babbling? And he was in cahoots with another member who scammed some AVS members out of some cash by saying he had PS3's for sale.

Just wondering...

A fool and his money are soon parted. Maybe he's setting the suckers all up to buy the 4th dimension. If they're as foolish as they were with the PS3 scam, then I think he's gonna make some money. Ah, greed.

Then, The Fifth Dimension will usher in the age of Aquarius and let the sunshine in.

Age of Aquarius has come and gone and as lready stated, 4D is a combination of 3d visuals and the other dimension, which is time. It's also Ken just being Ken, it seems he likes mixing things up a little. Makes sense unless your an xbot.

Then, The Fifth Dimension will usher in the age of Aquarius and let the sunshine in.
:D heheh

Well, if the PS3 game of "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension!" we would be so past the whole 4th dimension think. I gotta go play with my rock band.

PlayStation: 2D games

PlayStation 2: 3D games

PlayStation 3: 3D games updated regularly via PSN ~ 4D

Ken is at a level where vision is more important than mathematics or science.

The 6th dimension will be smell. It's rumored that the PS4 will have what's being called the "scent omission processor chip" Now if we could only get a updated version of Rumble Roses. There's something fishy going on there... :p

The XBOX 360 tried the 6th dimension with the smell of burning plastic. I hear it was NOT a hit with gamers.