View Full Version : Infocus SP777 or a 1080p single chip?


Bob Trinanes
03-11-07, 12:21 AM
Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has done a comparison on the Infocus SP777 to any of the current 1080 pieces on the market. I'm currently looking to purchase a projector for my theater, a 3 chip model with the light output for a 12' - 13' wide screen is what I'm looking for but unfortunately the 1080 3 chips are out of my budget. So there lies the question should I get the 777 to hold me over till the 3 chips become more affordable or get a single chip 1080 model...

I have seen the Sharp and Marantz pieces recently but it’s been a while (since CEDIA 2005) since I seen the 1st gen 777 which I thought looked great. Anyone else done a similar comparison?

Thanks
Bob

egcarter
03-11-07, 06:08 AM
There's nothing like three chips...

Resolution is not the most important factor in image quality.

Eric

Bob Trinanes
03-11-07, 01:02 PM
Kind of what I was thinking, I just wasnt sure if the extra resolution would out way the output of the 777. I'll probably be about 1.3 away from the screen.

BobL
03-11-07, 03:48 PM
For that size screen the 777 would be my choice with maybe the exception of of a Sim HT5000 for 5x the price.

Warren460
03-11-07, 04:28 PM
Sim C3x is also a great contender for your setup.

Tryg
03-11-07, 04:49 PM
at 1.3 screen widths from the screen I recommend 1080p. And the technology with the least amount of screen door.

flint350
03-11-07, 06:20 PM
at 1.3 screen widths from the screen I recommend 1080p. And the technology with the least amount of screen door.

Well, it's certain that screen door or any other image deficiency won't be a problem if he goes with that suggestion. Single chip 1080p's in today's incarnations would be far too dim to watch on a 13' wide screen. That's about 97 sq ft (in 1.78 AR) and using an avg of 500 calibrated lumens, he'd get about 5 ftl of brightness. Even with a 2.0 gain screen, he'd be starting at 10 and quickly going downhill. Of course, if he's talking 13' wide in 2.35 he could zoom that 1080p brightness in ftl's all the way up to 7 before gain!!

Craig Peer
03-11-07, 07:45 PM
Single chip 1080p's in today's incarnations would be far too dim to watch on a 13' wide screen.

Not the dVision 1080p. I'm only using one bulb so far on a 118" wide screen.

flint350
03-12-07, 05:03 PM
Not the dVision 1080p. I'm only using one bulb so far on a 118" wide screen.

Not to quibble, but 118" is over 3 feet smaller screen width than the 13' quoted and the DVision is about 3 times the price range the OP is talking about. Apples and Oranges. I'm sure yours looks great, but it surely isn't what the OP intended by "affordable" to fit his circumstances. I stand by my earlier statement.

Craig Peer
03-12-07, 05:11 PM
He did not say " affordable " ( whatever that means ) - he said -

but unfortunately the 1080 3 chips are out of my budget. So there lies the question should I get the 777 to hold me over till the 3 chips become more affordable or get a single chip 1080 model... and

I have seen the Sharp and Marantz pieces recently but it’s been a while (since CEDIA 2005) since I seen the 1st gen 777 which I thought looked great. Anyone else done a similar comparison?

Anyone looking at the Marantz is in the ballpark for a dVision 1080p from AVS.

Craig Peer
03-12-07, 05:12 PM
Not to quibble, but 118" is over 3 feet smaller screen width than the 13' quoted

Sure. If my screen was 13' wide I'd turn on both bulbs at once!!

Jason Turk
03-12-07, 09:16 PM
Well I see both sides...at 1.3, 720p might be an issue. But at 13' wide, you certainly aren't going to have enough brightness for a 1080p single chip. So, how flexible is your seating position?

flint350
03-12-07, 10:10 PM
...He did not say " affordable " ( whatever that means )...


...become more affordable or get a single chip 1080...

Just quibbling again. I stand by my original point. :D

Bob Trinanes
03-13-07, 07:23 PM
Well I see both sides...at 1.3, 720p might be an issue. But at 13' wide, you certainly aren't going to have enough brightness for a 1080p single chip. So, how flexible is your seating position?

I was thinking the same thing, so on another scenario I think I'll keep my 13' screen and I'll mask it in to 10' wide, this possibly makes the 1080p pieces a better fit. Then once the the 3 chippers come down in price I'll pull the trigger.

thanks for the info.

Bob.

Jason Turk
03-13-07, 08:28 PM
Good compromise.

GetGray
03-14-07, 03:30 PM
I have a 777 and love it. But I would I think 1.3x would be pushing it, assuming the x is of 16:9. If 2.35:1 maybe.

hjackson
03-14-07, 07:28 PM
I have the same question as Bob, but I have a 96" wide Firehawk that I sit 14 ft back from. My VP12S1 only looks good (bright enough) for about 200 hrs. With my new HD-DVD & BR-DVD system, I'm not clear what the best sub $12K projector would be for me. Will I really be able to notice a significant difference in resolution at that distance. Will a single chip DLP or the new JVC be bright enough for at least half the life of the bulb?

hjackson

Acropora
03-15-07, 08:54 AM
Can't you dual stack the new rs-1?

c722
03-15-07, 10:08 AM
I was thinking the same thing, so on another scenario I think I'll keep my 13' screen and I'll mask it in to 10' wide

u r kidding, right ? U have the real estate for a 13' wide and u intend to mask it to 10 ? If I have the screen in no way I'm going to compromise for that. BIG screen experience is BIG.

(yea obviously I'm in favor of the Infocus)

Bob Trinanes
03-15-07, 06:44 PM
u r kidding, right ? U have the real estate for a 13' wide and u intend to mask it to 10 ? If I have the screen in no way I'm going to compromise for that. BIG screen experience is BIG.

(yea obviously I'm in favor of the Infocus)

I feel the same way but its the 1.3 viewing that got me worried. I just picked up a a RS1 to hold me over for a little while.

Jason Turk
03-15-07, 08:44 PM
Can't you dual stack the new rs-1?
Sure can.

831dynamicaudio
12-13-08, 02:58 PM
If your screen size is 92-100" diagonal, would the 777 or single DC3 1080p be the victor?

GetGray
12-13-08, 06:33 PM
Depends on what you are looking for or what you think would make one victorious. Not enough information.

SAM ZEOLI
12-13-08, 09:26 PM
Hi Bob, I haven't talked to you in a few years but I just wanted to tell you that the 4-way masking screen you sold me is still working great, I am very happy with it and you were great to work with. Good luck with your new projector. Sam Zeoli

Jason Turk
12-15-08, 02:00 PM
If your screen size is 92-100" diagonal, would the 777 or single DC3 1080p be the victor?

For that size you certainly do not need a 3 chip. Plus, the newer 1080p single chips have many advantages (and some disadvantages) over the older 777. Try not to read this thread too much...it is over 1 year old.

Don Giberson
12-15-08, 10:04 PM
Single chip DLPs spec nicely, but for me, rainbows and fatigue are a deal killer.

I ended up with a 777 which is a very nice machine. At 1.8 screen widths, it looks impressive. Colors and brightness are excellent.

Unfortunately, I miscalculated the throw distance and could not install the projector in the room behind the theater. I have it installed in the theater. You can hear some fan noise and its size did not meet the approval from my significant other.

I am looking at options including the RS10, RS20 but have concerns I will be disappointed by motion blur and lack of brightness. If the Sim2 C3X 1080i was not out of budget, it would be a slam dunk.

Everything over $3K these days looks good. The question becomes one of how good it will look in your environment. When I am watching sports with the lights on the 777 looks great. My old G20 under the same scenario looked very dim.