View Full Version : Watching 16/9 content in 2.35


CINERAMAX
03-11-07, 11:09 AM
A very interesting deomo in the Vidikron booth leaving the anamorphic in for a single chip dlp presentation of concert footage.

Apparently Runco/Vidikron have a mode where you just crop top and bottom of a 16/9 frame and watch it with the lens on. It worked on some concert footage.

Does anyone here do that?

Jeff Regan
03-11-07, 09:19 PM
I don't have the Runco Cinewide mode, but I watch RAVE HD concerts with my Panamorph UH380 and Optoma HD81 in Auto235 mode quite often. It works well much of the time, but there are head to toe shots that cut off part of the musicians heads.

I also watch 4:3 sources that have 16:9 letterboxed material in anamorphic mode, which is
quite handy. This gives a full height 16:9 image.

coldmachine
03-11-07, 09:51 PM
A very interesting deomo in the Vidikron booth leaving the anamorphic in for a single chip dlp presentation of concert footage.

Apparently Runco/Vidikron have a mode where you just crop top and bottom of a 16/9 frame and watch it with the lens on. It worked on some concert footage.

Does anyone here do that?


Just did a vertical rescale to crop the top and bottom as a test. Tried various channels... DiscoHD, NatGeo HD,Sports and movies.............Unwatchable for me at least. Its ok when stuff is far away but most normal shots use most of the vertical. Close dialog looks crazy, totally distracting, heads missing etc. Sports werent too bad as most figures are small and the action is well centred.

CINERAMAX
03-11-07, 10:11 PM
Thanks guys. Good to know.

Jeff Regan
03-12-07, 12:33 AM
Here's a situation where watching a movie in 16:9 works well in 2:35; when it's shot protected for 2:35 and then the matte is opened up(shot in Super 35, not anamorphic). I have
"The World's Fastest Indian" on HD DVD which is 16:9, but when shown on HD Net, it was
2:35:1, which is how it was shown theatrically. The director decided he wanted to open the
matte up for home video distribution. In a case like this, you can watch in 2:35 and not worry
about losing any essential information. Without an anamorphic lens, you wouldn't have the
option.

noah katz
03-12-07, 01:46 AM
"Apparently Runco/Vidikron have a mode where you just crop top and bottom of a 16/9 frame and watch it with the lens on."

It makes way more sense to crop the sides o0ff of 2.35 and save the expense and hassle of an add-on lens and perhaps VP.

Jeff Regan
03-12-07, 04:40 PM
"Apparently Runco/Vidikron have a mode where you just crop top and bottom of a 16/9 frame and watch it with the lens on."

It makes way more sense to crop the sides o0ff of 2.35 and save the expense and hassle of an add-on lens and perhaps VP.

Not if you like the 2:35:1 aspect ratio. But I agree that it is better to crop the sides
of a frame than to crop somebody's head off!

Runco's mode for for watching 16:9 material in 2:35:1 does a slight top and bottom
crop and a non-linear side stretch, along with a horizontal expansion anamorphic
lens to obtain a 2:35:1 aspect ratio.

Obviously, if somebody is interested in a 2:35:1 constant image height setup, it is
expected that there will be additional expense and complexity involved. What Runco
is doing(besides being one of the first to drive the 2:35:1 CIH trend) is making
anamorphic setups useable for more than just 2:35:1 movies lettereboxed within
a 16:9 frame, thereby making the extra investment more justified.

CINERAMAX
03-12-07, 05:10 PM
It makes way more sense to crop the sides o0ff of 2.35 and save the expense and hassle of an add-on lens and perhaps VP.[/QUOTE]


That is great if you have a custom rear screen with motorized zoom. :)