I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.

You are not going to get any useful impartial advice on these forums. Having said that, my honest advice is if you can afford whatever you paid for HD-A2, keep it and use it for HD DVD exclusives and upconversion. If you can't afford it, return it.

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it/

I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies

Support the format that is delivering what you want. Which by the sound of it is HDDVD.

You don't sound convinced to stick with the HD DVD format, with buyers remorse maybe. I'd return it.

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.

So let me see if I got this right. You HONESTY don't see HD winning but you want posters in the HD DVD Forum to convince you to keep it? BTW This seems to be a common question that you could find in a search.

I dont need anyone to convince me of anything, i just asked for honest opinions. I mean how in the world could anyone that looks at the numbers and the movies coming out think that hd dvd will win? I wouldn't mind seeing a draw but i just don't see it.So let me see if I got this right. You HONESTY don't see HD winning but you want posters in the HD DVD Forum to convince you to keep it? BTW This seems to be a common question that you could find in a search.

I dont need anyone to convince me of anything, i just asked for honest opinions. I mean how in the world could anyone that looks at the numbers and the movies coming out think that hd dvd will win? I wouldn't mind seeing a draw but i just don't see it.

Perception of winning is all Blu-ray has going for it. But this war has really just begun, either side could easily win out. Or for that matter neither could win. We will not know until player prices come down, and we hit mass market.

If you have the money to play, then keep it and enjoy Universal and Winston releases, along with many of the better Warner titles that are not available on Blu-ray yet. All and all there are over 100 titles that you will not find on Blu-ray, already on HD DVD

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.
If you don't think you'll use it, then return it. If you'll use it, then you have nothing to lose by keeping it. The "war" will be around for quite a while yet, and won't be ending soon, despite wht people here say. Just for giggles, why don't you do a comparison, and compare your upscaling DVD player, to the A2's upscaling, and see which one you prefer.
enjoy,
J

I dont need anyone to convince me of anything, i just asked for honest opinions. I mean how in the world could anyone that looks at the numbers and the movies coming out think that hd dvd will win? I wouldn't mind seeing a draw but i just don't see it.

Your response above answers your own question and that is my point. It's apparent that either your mind is made up and no amount of post will change it or.....you want HD DVD owners to say bluray will win so take it back.

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential.

There are still alot of very reasonable and knowledgeable people here... you just have to pay attention to them and not others who seem follow & promote their HD format of choice with blind zealotry.

I own both formats, and agree with xradman. If money isn't a big issue, I'd keep the HD DVD player as it's the only way you'll be able to watch HD films from Universal and Weinstein for a while at minimum.... forever at maximum.

Also, is there a reason why you're not "THAT impressed" with BD on the PS3? Is it the titles themselves or the picture quality? Don't resign yourself to saying you're not "seeing its true potential" just because you don't have a 1080p TV. Early BD discs had comparatively poor picture quality, but the recent ones have stepped it up and are really par-for-par with HD DVD. If you have your PS3 set to 720p, you might try 1080i. I *think* I heard the PS3 has/had a bug where the 1080p content scaled incorreclty to 720p.

1) Make sure your Blu-Ray PS3 is outputting 1080i, there is a bug where if you ask it to output 720p it only outputs 480.

2) If you have a bunch of HDDVDs you want to watch or imminent HDDVD releases keep the HDDVD machine, otherwise return it. If HDDVD wins out there will always be beter/cheaper machines in the future.

1) Make sure your Blu-Ray PS3 is outputting 1080i, there is a bug where if you ask it to output 720p it only outputs 480.
I'm surprised it took 10 replies to get to this. Well, maybe I shouldn't be. :)

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.
Definitely keep the HD-A2. HD DVD is going to be around for a long, long time. :)

Return the HD-A2 and get your money back. If HD DVD is still around when Christmas comes, you can always get a cheaper and better model. If not, there is one less thing to worry about now and later. In any event, there is plenty of Blu-ray titles coming to keep you busy.

And when Christmas comes around and you ask me for the same advice again, I would tell you then to wait for CES 2008 to make your decision. ;)

Why don't you utilize the Tosh as a dual purpose player for CDS? Hence giving you extra rack space, along with BETTER upconversion than you will get with BD players?

You can get rid of your CD player with the HD DVD player, but it stays there if you get BluRay, because that overpriced format called BLUERAY cannot even PLAY CDS.

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.

If you can still get all of your money back then definitely return the HD-DVD player. HD-DVD is getting close to obsolescence. Why throw money away?? Stick with the winning format: Blu-ray. :)

Bah! Keep it, unless your really strapped. Either format could croak, but I don't think either will "kill" the other, though the fudmiesters (see above post) thrive on this notion. IMO HD DVD is going to penetrate deep enough that it hangs in there as long as people give a crap about Hi-def disks. That said they still have to start giving a crap Hi-def media of either sort!

HD DVD is great format, (I'm sure BD is too) and reality dictates that most of us are going to own more than one of our favorite format's players. Both formats will outgrow their first and second generation machines.

Can anyone name any format that didn't mutate at least three times from it's first and second generation players?

The question seems a little strange to me but just keep the machine. HD DVD and Blu-ray will be around for a long time to come. Enjoy both!

Personally my advice would be to return the HD-A2 and wait until this fall to see how things go. By than it should be much clearer whether Blu-ray will win this format war or whether we will get stuck with both HD formats. With the former case you avoided buying into a video a video format that is dying and with the latter case you would most likely have a better selection of HD DVD players to choose from such as the HD-A20.

As someone who also uses the PS3 for Blu-ray playback I would make sure that you have it set for both 720p and 1080i output and than try some Blu-ray movies such as Crank, The Covenant, Tears of the Sun, Corpse Bride, Ice Age 2, and The Prestige. All of which are great to reference quality encodings. Two great places for picture quality reviews of Blu-ray titles is the Blu-ray Tier thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=753726) and the High-Def Digest website (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/).


You can get rid of your CD player with the HD DVD player, but it stays there if you get BluRay, because that overpriced format called BLUERAY cannot even PLAY CDS.Actually there are several Blu-ray players, including the PS3, that can play CDs. A few early Blu-ray players couldn't because of how their drives were designed but that should not be an issue for most, if not all, future Blu-ray players that are released.

Why don't you utilize the Tosh as a dual purpose player for CDS? Hence giving you extra rack space, along with BETTER upconversion than you will get with BD players?

You can get rid of your CD player with the HD DVD player, but it stays there if you get BluRay, because that overpriced format called BLUERAY cannot even PLAY CDS.

My Blu-ray player plays CDs. :confused:

The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future.

If this post is for real and you're worried that the hd-a2 will be just an upconverting player this soon after buying it, then you should return both the hd-a2 and the PS3 as you're not ready to be an early adopter.

If this post isn't for real, you should ask Sony for more money for being the 100th person this month to join AVS and immediately post their worries about HD DVD. :eek:

I'm calling fake on this OP, Look at his Sig... the way he talks. He very much sounds like he knows his HT and is much less a newb, he also sounds like someone of this forum. Personally I would check his IP to see if he's a clone. Plus with the whole HD DVD can't with with the almighty juggernaut of Blu propaganda, sounds too much like a viral marketing or a double member (all guys want one of those :) )

Blu-ray is pretty ****** and I'm worried about HD-DVDs future --> viral marketer?


If anything, that sounds like a lot of posts from veteran HD-DVD supporters in this forum. Sheesh.

This is fairly simple. If you buy it and like it, keep it. If you buy it and aren't impressed, then return it. Support what you enjoy.

Myself , I'd keep it or get an xa2 and five free movies .cost of entry low and quality is very good..
My A1 has treated me good and if hd-dvd loses in about 10 years from now , big deal !!
I havent played one movie that I was not impressed with ...

I thought of blu-ray too , but glad I chose the Tosh ...
Good luck with your decision and by the way who knows which studios will will go neutral.
I think we all agree they will at some point, unless they want to leave cash on the table...

Bob

I returned my HD-DVD player.

When I decided to make the leap to a HD format I decided to go with HD-DVD based on that seem to be the favored format here at AVS. Several times I almost bought one and finally I pulled the trigger as the price was right. Within a couple weeks it was announced studio support and sales were starting to heavily favor BR over HD-DVD and I quickly found myself asking the same questions. Within a week I picked up a PS3 to test the waters. After comparing the products I couldn't see any notable PQ differences (PQ varied title to title on both sides), but I found the PCM on the BR side to be significantly better on several of the BR discs. I have little to no use for an up-converting DVD player as my displays both have excellent processors in them (FWIW the PS3 'should' be getting this feature in the future via a FW upgrade). After giving it some thought and seeing the release schedules from the studios I dumped my HD-DVD equipment while I could still get my money back.

So far I'm happy with the decision to go BR. I truly believe a single format is better for everyone and playing on both sides of the fence does nothing to get us closer to that goal. If indeed HD-DVD is alive and doing well around this time next year, then I'll pickup one of those $150 Chinese players and rejoin the format... but I'd be very amazed if it's thriving next year at this time.

If you truly believe the format is destine to extinction (and it's easy to make an argument that this will happen), it makes no sense to buy into it.

My honest advice would have been to wait to buy anything. It is a little late for that now.

...if hd-dvd loses in about 10 years from now , big deal !!
If I thought HD-DVD would be around a minimum of 10 years from now, I'd be all over it (assuming there was decent studio support). BUT, to me it IS a big deal to invest $1k+ into hardware and software that could be dropped within a year when I know there's another very similar format that gives me the same excellent HD experience and it appears to have much better legs under it. Why waste the money?

If I'm going to buy into something today knowing that one of the two very likely will die off, I'm going to go with the one that has the best chance of survival based on todays infomation... IMO that's clearly BR.

Seems to me that the people the happiest in this forum are the ones owning both formats...

^ Not I! I'm happier not owning two formats. ;)

I have had a ps3 since the day they launched but I have't been THAT impressed with the blu-ray side of it. I have a 720P-1080i tv so I know i am not seeing its true potential. The other day I caved in and bought a hd-a2 also and I am very impressed with the player and the movies. My concern is that I already have a upconversion dvd player and its starting to look like the hd-a2 will become just that in the near future. I am not trying to affend anyone here, so please don't take it like that, but it just seems like blu-ray is a steamroller right now and I just don't see hd winning. So I guess what I am asking is do you think I should return my hd player while I am still in the 30 days? I just want honest answers and I know that there are people who are devoted to each side, but honestly I just don't see hd winning this thing.

It depends on you. If the money means little, or if you can just delay a vacation this year, keep it. If it is causing you anguish, return both if you still can.

The primary purpose is to enjoy the hobby of watching movies, so if you gain more headaches than pleasure from them, just get rid of them, it's not worth the hassle.

Just check how many Universal or Adult movies you really want to watch in HD.
If you don't find many, just return it. The rest is on Blu-ray.

What is the native resolution of your display?

I think that to be VERY impressed with either format you need a good 1080 native display.

720 just doesn't do justice to either one... (just my humble opinion)

Get rid of that HD-DVD player fast! seriously, return it and get your money back while you can, hd-dvd is dying an ugly death. you definitely don't want to flush your money down the hd-dvd toilet. if you're still curious, pick one up used in about six months when they're going for 50 bucks or less on clearance.

I think im going to keep it. There are too many universal titles that I love. I see this thing going on for awhile so there will be more titles I want that are coming out. And to be honest, I think hd dvd looks better.

I think im going to keep it. There are too many universal titles that I love. I see this thing going on for awhile so there will be more titles I want that are coming at. And to be honest, I think hd dvd looks better.

Good choice! Best to enjoy both and not worry about it.