More information about the new digital cinema models is becoming available:
http://www.dcinematoday.com/dc/pr.aspx?newsID=735

I am not sure which DMDs this uses, but I think that they are the older 1.3" type.
It does have HDCP compliant DVI input, which is a surprise.

Any specs just for fun ? :)

Art

http://www.christiedigital.com/NR/rdonlyres/286887C8-5ED0-418A-9A33-BFD9C68AA681/0/christieEntertainmentSolutions_oct052006.pdf

No specs but some data. Now this projector would have killer colorimetry. It has a genum VXP processor. Has 2 hdcp inputs. Of course it would need a reduced aperture plate.According to Odyssey's link it may take hdcp over the modular inputs. That would be a first.

I know we all love contrast ratio,yet if it could be modded to around 4:000>1 , I'd be happy.

Any specs just for fun ? :)

Art

I am guessing, but I think that the on/off CR at D65 with 1dE is the same as the old models: 1500:1 unmodified and 2700-3000:1 modified.

The two new Barco units based on the .98” DMDs may have higher on/off CR and Wolfgang has some information about an improved 1.3” DMD later this year, also with higher CR. No HDCP for any of these.

The rest of the specs should be excellent, most of them way beyond the consumer and non digital cinema units. For example, some (all?) of these models have very precise mechanical convergence adjustment. All of them have very sophisticated color management.

New model/s from Christie and Barco, will news from NEC follow shortly? Will Sony make any attempt to be heard or seen?

I spoke to Lisa Chan PR agent for the Starus NEC offering. They will not be introducing a new projector at Showest with the .98 DMD, "not quite yet, but soon"...

Does anyone have any idea what the Christie will retail for? I have read on the forum it's supposed to be cheaper than its' predecessor?
~Yvonne

AMEN indeed!

http://www.christiedigital.com/NR/rdonlyres/99C94599-7A05-4300-BB75-54E4B3EA4536/0/CP2000ZX_anamorphic_LR.jpg

Is it AIR COOLED?



CHECK OUT THE VIDEO (http://www.christiedigital.com/AMEN/TechnologyMovies/christieSolutions/CP2000ZXProductIntroduction.htm)

DO YOU THINK IT IS MODIFIABLE FOR APERTURE PLATE? It already has a HC lens option.

the new Barco DP1500/DP-2000 has the chassis of the FLMHD14. Optional lens memory for zoom/focus and shift enables these models to go without anamorphic attachment...and oohh the new ACS-2048 alternative content switcher now too comes with HDCP!
http://www.barco.com/digitalcinema/en/products/DLPCinemaprojectors.asp

these are written for the ACS-2048:
A standard HDCP (High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) "decrypted input" and "encrypted output" path enables copy-protected content to be displayed at digital cinema resolutions, while maintaining the highest degree of security for the copyright holder

Oh man that should be an awesome PJ. No need for anamorphic.

Nice scaler with IP control.

http://www.barco.com/projection_systems/images/ACS-2048_L.jpg

The memory lens servo is very useful in rooms that are not very wide. In this case a constant width scenario with a single top down mask offering a "fixed bottom of screen" would work.

This Barco would do just that.

http://cineramax.com/images/Helene-Front-Perspective-Fl.jpg

http://cineramax.com/images/Helene-Front-PerspecGrnPrx.jpg

http://cineramax.com/images/Helene-Front-Perspe-Flatsc-.jpg

In case you are wondering these are the speakers depicted:

http://cineramax.com/images/Dynaudio5_1.jpg

I like that robotic arm for an anamorphic lens. Thats a different approach to sleds. Looks cleaner.

I have been saying that all along for years. Still I am intrigued by the Constant Image Width.

I have been saying that all along for years. Still I am intrigued by the Constant Image Width.

You just need a zoom range wide enough to shrink the image when the anamorphic lens is engaged.

I could have sworn that this Christie model has already been compared to the RS1 and OF COURSE it could not compete with the JVC. ;)

Not in on/off cr.:)

You just need a zoom range wide enough to shrink the image when the anamorphic lens is engaged.

Hi Robena no anamorphic lens is needed with this projector. It has a lens that goes between 1.6 to 2.5 that is a huge servo range. It accomodates 1.66 ar thru 2.76, with ideal conditions it can probably go bewteen 1.33 and 2.76.

This will be a very interesting option finally delivering on the promise of fully automated constnt image height, for rooms that are taller than wider.

Spoke to Barco guy at show, the dp1500 will ship July August, the switcher will not have HDCP enbled initially , later.

Christie scaler shows 10 bit content with dual dvi.

http://www.christiedigital.co.uk/products/cineIPM2K/cineIPM2KSpecifications.asp

http://cineramax.com/images/christie-options.jpg
The christie options include an exhaust fan kit and the 1.26 anamorphic adapter.

Christie scaler shows 10 bit content with dual dvi.

http://www.christiedigital.co.uk/products/cineIPM2K/cineIPM2KSpecifications.asp

That's exactly the same layout, and probably the same circuitry, than the HD5K input panel.

That's exactly the same layout, and probably the same circuitry, than the HD5K input panel.


That would be outstanding if it has the Genum chip in it. I am on hold with Christie now to ask if one can feed HDCP dvi 8 bit and output 10 bit dual dvi. I downloaded the owners manual for this unit and it has all the memories in the world to do aspect ratio control to 2048 pixels wide. My concern is that it also does a decent job of cadence detection. We know if it is a Genum that it will be fine.

Yep it is a genum.

What is the pricing on this puppy

I am working on that. But guess what? Drumroll please...

I will be receiving a snaphot of the aperture plate on the integrator rod lightpath. That means the Odyssey mod is quite likely possible, being a matter of replacing the plate with another one reduced by 2/3. This Pj takes 3 lamps, the 2k, the 3k normal and the 3k high output. It would be dangerous using the 3k High Output as the modification translates choked photons into heat. But experimentation with the lesser output 3k could yield good results.

Gentlemen if this works, behold the ultimate HT PJ; having deep color content displayed at 10 bit video with precise colorimetry and 3,500:1 Cr @ 2k lumens TRUE D65, with the finest anamorphic rig available, and a custom matched TORUS to boot. I should sell this kit under the CINERAMAX brand. :D

Aperture Plate: (notice the heat proof black anodizing).

http://cineramax.com/images/Aperture_Plate_2.jpg


Guillotine action insertion of aperture plate into integrator rod light path point.

http://cineramax.com/images/Guillotine_Aperture_Plate.jpg

Illustration of proposed Cineramax-Odyssey (;)) modification.

http://cineramax.com/images/Aperture_Plate_Reduced.jpg

Gentlemen if this works, behold the ultimate HT PJ; having deep color content displayed at 10 bit video with precise colorimetry and 3,500:1 Cr @ 2k lumens TRUE D65, with the finest anamorphic rig available, and a custom matched TORUS to boot. I should sell this kit under the CINERAMAX brand. :D

Mr. Mayer found 3,245:1 CR @ 7000 lumens D65 with the HD8K.

What would be the interest of your mod compared to that?

I am sorry but there is no way your statement is true. The digital cinema calibration tools is accurate the rest is garbage. One has a 3kw xenon lamp, the other a toy 1,200kw cermax with problems. Now the HD*k does have a motorised iris, this one does not.


Totally different leagues. Mybe I can get more cr out of this I'd have to experiment with multiple plates and different lamps. This is a better projector due to the anamorphic turret and better lens.

I am sorry but there is no way your statement is true. The digital cinema calibration tools is accurate the rest is garbage. One has a 3kw xenon lamp, the other a toy 1,200kw cermax with problems.

One has 8000 lumens iris opened, and the other 17000. That's perfectly in sync with the lamp wattage.

As for the colors, when you set the HD5K color menu to D65, they are perfect out of the box. On my sample, switching to D65 from full drive only loses 6% light, so the lamp is near native D65.

If Cineramax says you are wrong then you are to shut up and leave well enough alone!

;)

Ask Odyssey why one is a much better piece. Are you trying to justify the purchase of the Hd6/8k go ahead, I recommend this other route for Anamorphic presentation.

You should at least respect that I am going through he motions of investigating the alternative aperture plates. You may not find it useful in your daily life, but the true videophile should after the DISGUSTING COLORIMETRY FIASCO of the SIM2 HT5000.

The Sim2 loses half light at D65, because it uses a non filtered UHP lamp.

The HD5Ks lose (depending on the samples) between 6% to 9% only.

It's nice to be questing for the absolute best, but giving the results we get with 1KW lamps at D65, your notion that you need to go down from 14000 lumens to 2000 lumens with 3KW lamps to get 2700 CR at D65 does not make any sense.

We are getting into a complicated subject: which digital cinema projector features are also useful for consumer sources, providing performance beyond the conventional models. These features include higher bit depth processing, the TI P7 color calibration, 3D capability, and possibly faster mirror speed with the 2048x1080 DMDs. I think that these features provide benefit for consumer sources, but it depends on the price differential whether they make sense. The current 1.3” digital cinema DMD may also have lower intrinsic on/off CR compared to the 1920x1080 and the .98” 2048x1080 DMDs.

The first thing I noticed about the illumination aperture plate is that the opening is round and not the optimized cat’s eye shape. The corresponding plate in the Barco DP100 is cat’s eye shaped.

The first thing I noticed about the illumination aperture plate is that the opening is round and not the optimized cat’s eye shape. The corresponding plate in the Barco DP100 is cat’s eye shaped.

http://cineramax.com/images/Aperture_Plate_Reduced_cat.jpg

What orientation should the cat's eye be? Up down, left right, Diagonal?

We are getting into a complicated subject: which digital cinema projector features are also useful for consumer sources, providing performance beyond the conventional models. These features include higher bit depth processing, the TI P7 color calibration, 3D capability, and possibly faster mirror speed with the 2048x1080 DMDs. I think that these features provide benefit for consumer sources, but it depends on the price differential whether they make sense. The current 1.3” digital cinema DMD may also have lower intrinsic on/off CR compared to the 1920x1080 and the .98” 2048x1080 DMDs.

Indeed, some of these features may improve consumer HD, but that's not certain and the cost differential will probably be important.

All I can say is that I owned and saw many projectors, starting with the first ILA ones 11 years ago, and the HD5K is the best with quite a margin.

Something better will come sooner or later, it always does. But at the moment, until proven otherwise, the HD5K is my reference.

The iris in the SIM HT5000 was a diagonally oriented cats eye.

Art

Thanks Art.

This projector also handles other PJ issues like quality of lamp over a long period.

http://cineramax.com/images/Aperture_Plate_Reduced_cat.jpg

What orientation should the cat's eye be? Up down, left right, Diagonal?

It's usually at a diagonal and the same orientation as the lens aperture.

Wow pretty good guess. Now you did not anodize yours eh? I think it is worth it to reduce stray light.

It is anodized aluminum, but a light color, not black. It came from Barco and has same finish as the standard Barco aperture plate. I don’t think that much stray light escapes the internal housing. The lens aperture is black.