Just browsing when I found this:

A new HD format, sounds very interesting!!!!

HD VMD

http://www.dailytech.com/Quadlayer+DVD+Technology+Becomes+the+Third+HD+Format/article6307.htm

Just browsing when I found this:

A new HD format, sounds very interesting!!!!

HD VMD

http://www.dailytech.com/Quadlayer+DVD+Technology+Becomes+the+Third+HD+Format/article6307.htm

Would have been really interesting if it worked with existing DVD players. As it is, it only causes increased confusion, which is something not desirable right now.

Damn, maybe I'll pick up one of these players just for kicks. Sounds like it could turn out to be a threat if it finds a market.

That's the product we actually need. I hope the sutdios get on board.

this is not new news ...
sounds gutless ...I'm out on this one LOL

Bob

That's the product we actually need. I hope the sutdios get on board.
How is that?
I would even take HD-DVD over that crap.

I seriously doubt there is enough room for a third format. Which studio would support this one? Which electronics companies would make players? I think they have all chosen their sides and are unwilling to move.

It's too bad this came a little too late to the party.

But I wonder why this couldn't be applied to the blu-laser formats. Especially HD DVD, which is very similar to DVD except the color of the laser. Why wouldn't this allow 4 layers on HD DVD as well?

That's the product we actually need. I hope the sutdios get on board.
How do you figure a new format based on old technology with lower capacity is the format we need? Single sided BD gets criticised for not having enough capacity.

Too little too late on this format. Hope it dies the death it deserves

How do you figure a new format based on old technology with lower capacity is the format we need? Single sided BD gets criticised for not having enough capacity.

Too little too late on this format. Hope it dies the death it deserves


I don't want to speak for him, but he likely means that it is a true continuation of DVD technology, so the players may be as cheap to build as DVD players are today. That would almost guarantee their mass adoption. And so long as it has enough capacity to get the job done, it doesn't need more capacity.

I don't see it.

1. New consumer products generally are priced higher to recoup research and development costs, so I don't know how low you could really price it, even if it did leverage a lot of current dvd tech.
2. Unless you go back to mpeg II, royalties are still going to have to be paid for new video/audio codecs.
3. No body (like dvd forum or BDA) has looked at this to have a chance to decide what codecs, or interactive layer should be, what the stream should look like etc.
4. Another competing format just muddies the waters, and will only slow adoption of any HD format. I would think this would give any potential CE company pause for concern.
5. By the time they could decide the above and get to market, BD/HD-DVD will have had a large head start and this new format would have little chance for success.

I hope their research results in (re)writable multi layer disks for computer data or something but I can't see this ever being a serious contender for the "new high def disk of choice" title.

It's too bad this came a little too late to the party.

But I wonder why this couldn't be applied to the blu-laser formats. Especially HD DVD, which is very similar to DVD except the color of the laser. Why wouldn't this allow 4 layers on HD DVD as well?


It can, they even mention it being applicable to to HD DVD, but wouldn't it only yield them 60GB? If that's true and they're already working on a 51GB disk, I doubt it would be all that appealing.

This will never get off the ground, as there are no big company's backing it. All it will be good for is some IP :)

its 720P is it not , bleh !!

It can, they even mention it being applicable to to HD DVD, but wouldn't it only yield them 60GB
Why would they be limited to 60G? Are you assuming a max of 4 layers?

The only thing interesting here is being able to get the laser to read multiple layers more reliably, and they think they can go as high as 8 layers. TDK has already demo'd 6 layers. If this could push to an 8 layer 33G/layer (which is what TDK demo'd) that would be 264 G per disk. That would be great, if this technology works on R or RW disks. If it is just for ROM, I don't see the need for it anytime soon. HVD is more interesting to me, but who knows if that will ever become commonplace.

its 720P is it not , bleh !!
It doesn't have a spec yet. It's just a technology at this point.

How do you figure a new format based on old technology with lower capacity is the format we need? Single sided BD gets criticised for not having enough capacity.

Too little too late on this format. Hope it dies the death it deserves

I don't criticize BD for not having enough capacity. All the little people need is 1080 video with decent bandwidth DD which this format will do.

It doesn't have a spec yet. It's just a technology at this point.


No, apparently its 1080 (didn't say i or p) and the players list for $249.00 and $199.00 U.S. respectively. Does this mean a $125.00 to $150.00 street price? This could kill both HD DVD and BD with this kind of pricing and could be bought en mass by a public that sees a better image than SD DVD for much less money than the other HD formats. We might not want to see it happen, but we sure deserve it, if it takes off.

Cheers,

Grant

No, apparently its 1080 (didn't say i or p) and the players list for $249.00 and $199.00 U.S. respectively. Does this mean a $125.00 to $150.00 street price? This could kill both HD DVD and BD with this kind of pricing and could be bought en mass by a public that sees a better image than SD DVD for much less money than the other HD formats. We might not want to see it happen, but we sure deserve it, if it takes off.

Cheers,

Grant
If it's a 720-1080 DVDwith DD/DTS, Mpeg2-4, AVC/VC-1 and normal DVD menus it is exactlty what the doctor ordered and the price can be excellent as well. BD and HDDVD were about money for a few CE companies, not the studios, which is who we need to make money to have HD movies.

If it's a 720-1080 DVDwith DD/DTS, Mpeg2-4, AVC/VC-1 and normal DVD menus it is exactlty what the doctor ordered and the price can be excellent as well. BD and HDDVD were about money for a few CE companies, not the studios, which is who we need to make money to have HD movies.

I wonder if it's really too late, if it plays on existing players (I assume at 480), then couldn't studios just release it as a DVD that has the extremely great added value of being HD should you choose to pick up a $100 player?

I wonder if it's really too late, if it plays on existing players (I assume at 480), then couldn't studios just release it as a DVD that has the extremely great added value of being HD should you choose to pick up a $100 player?

WEll, I wouldn't say that HDDVD and BD are rocking the house, so it's not over yet by a long shot.

Come on - what studios will sell movies in an HD format like this? They allude to content providers 'quietly adopting' this format but don't mention a single one.

The HD-VMD format (http://www.nmeinc.com/index.aspx) is not exactly news.
The format was recently demonstrated with production models in Media Tech. (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=19926)
The players are produced by Chinese manufacturer Shinco and can also play the official Chinese HD format EVD.
They claim they have distribution deal for almost the entire Bollywood catalog. (http://www.nmeinc.com/press_list.aspx)
They also claim to have distribution deals with German film distributor with more international/indi content.
The most interesting with the format is the replication technology which also can be used on blue-laser formats.
If they manage a sucsessful launch this spring it could seriously delute the impact of HD-DVD & BD in the asian and east european/Russian marked.

Come on - what studios will sell movies in an HD format like this? They allude to content providers 'quietly adopting' this format but don't mention a single one.

Exactly. We've seen it takes a huge and long-term commitment by many to make a format viable ...

The HD-VMD format (http://www.nmeinc.com/index.aspx) is not exactly news.


And not new news. I remember reading about VMD over six months ago.

And not new news. I remember reading about VMD over six months ago.

I've heard of it before, but I'm hearing about it more.