I have a Sammy HLS-5087 (50" 1080p DLP TV) which unfortunately does not do 1:1 pixel mapping.

I have a PS3, XBOX 360 with HD-DVD addon, comcast cable (with HD), and Starchoice DBS (with HD).

Would a VP50 provide me an upgrade in picture or is not worth it considering my TV doesn't do 1:1 pixel mapping?

Ideally I'd like to upconvert everything (Except the PS3, which I would leave directly connected to the TV) to 1080p.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

I tried posting this in the VP50 thread, but am not getting any responses. Thanks!

If your display doesn't do 1:1 pixel mapping, it applies its processing/scaling to every signal. You would still get some benefit, but not as much as you would otherwise.

Personally, I would not spend $$$ on a video processor unless I could take full advantage of it to bypass the display's inferior built-in processing.

The latest Samsung HL-S x87 displays with the December firmware do support 1:1 pixel mapping, after you change an option in the service menu. You can enable it on pre-December models as well, but the setting doesn't save; it resets every time you turn the TV off.

You will get quite good results with a VP50 with native input on the TV (1080p for 1080p TV's) even if the horizontal pixel matching is not 1:1.

With a VP50 what counts is the handling of 1080i material. Almost no HDTV outdoes the VP50; more than 75% (including 2007 models) don't do as well as the VP50.

Video hints: http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/viddoubl.htm

The latest Samsung HL-S x87 displays with the December firmware do support 1:1 pixel mapping, after you change an option in the service menu. You can enable it on pre-December models as well, but the setting doesn't save; it resets every time you turn the TV off.I have a 6 month old HL-S5087W, I guess with old firmware. Can it be updated to the December firmware? If so, how do I get my hands on the firmware?

I have a 6 month old HL-S5087W, I guess with old firmware. Can it be updated to the December firmware? If so, how do I get my hands on the firmware?As far as I know, Samsung does not offer the firmware as an update. Others have tried and failed. If your display didn't ship with the December firmware, you are out of luck.

As Allan notes, there is still some benefit, especially with 1080i content, but not as much as you'd get if you could bypass the Samsung's relatively mediocre scaling.

As far as I know, Samsung does not offer the firmware as an update. Others have tried and failed. If your display didn't ship with the December firmware, you are out of luck.

As Allan notes, there is still some benefit, especially with 1080i content, but not as much as you'd get if you could bypass the Samsung's relatively mediocre scaling.

Most of what I would be feeding VP50 to feed to the TV would be 1080i material, so I can see that the deinterlacer would be great, but I'm not going to get one until I can get it new for $1500 or less.

Another question:

is there a cheaper device (that is also as small as the VP50 in physical size) that does a good job of deinterlacing 1080i? By good job I mean better than the deinterlacer in the Sammy HLS-5087.

It would be a bonus (but not needed) if this device also scaled up lower resolutions to 1080p, but I am mostly interested in deinterlacing 1080i from my Comcast Box, Starchoice Box, and XBOX 360 component output used for HD-DVD's.

I am thinking the Key Digital isync HD/isync PRO fits my needs. What do you all think?

Thanks!!

I am thinking the Key Digital isync HD/isync PRO fits my needs. What do you all think?

Thanks!!

Anyone? Thanks.

Another question:

is there a cheaper device (that is also as small as the VP50 in physical size) that does a good job of deinterlacing 1080i? By good job I mean better than the deinterlacer in the Sammy HLS-5087.

It would be a bonus (but not needed) if this device also scaled up lower resolutions to 1080p, but I am mostly interested in deinterlacing 1080i from my Comcast Box, Starchoice Box, and XBOX 360 component output used for HD-DVD's.

I am thinking the Key Digital isync HD/isync PRO fits my needs. What do you all think?

I have a 50" 1080p DLP Sammy TV (HL-S5087).

Thanks!!

I'm no expert, but that's the one I've had my eye on too -- seems like good performance for the price. (I'd jump on it right now if only it could output my set's NR. Apparently, none of KeyDigital's tech support people have ever heard of EDTVs!)

Note that the iSync doesn't appear to accept 1080p, which will limit its usefulness as a switcher sometime in the future.

no need for separate threads, I combined them both.

In the past, no display gave full native rate and most processors didn't have the capability of supporting NR.

Still, we overshot the resolution (so the display downscaled everything, which is not that bad in most cases).

It's not an ideal situation, but it does work.