I just pre-ordered Smokin Aces at Target.com for $27.95
Just for giggles I checked walmart.com ...WOW they want $39.99 for it.
Walmart is getting so high on there movies anymore.
Anyone see it cheaper then Amazon/Target.com?

amazon.com has it for the same price...$27.95

http://www.amazon.com/Smokin-Aces-Hybd-Sub-Ac3/dp/B000NTPFK8/ref=sr_1_13/102-1803349-8159336?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1173823153&sr=8-13

Thats the usual price for a Combo.

:) I just pre-ordered Smokin Aces at Target.com for $27.95
Just for giggles I checked walmart.com ...WOW they want $39.99 for it.
Walmart is getting so high on there movies anymore.
Anyone see it cheaper then Amazon/Target.com?
That's what Walmart always sells them for on their website, however if one were to go into the store, their price is usually competitive with Amazon.

That crazy Walmart! :D

Is Smoking Aces an Exclusive HD-DVD release, or will BluRay also get this?

Is Smoking Aces an Exclusive HD-DVD release, or will BluRay also get this?


Smokin' Aces is a Universal Picture :D


HD DVD Exclusive!

I think it's an HD DVD exclusive, right? Universal?

amazon.com has it for the same price...$27.95
That's because Target's web site is Amazon, just re-branded to give the appearance that Target has an online presence.

I think it's an HD DVD exclusive, right? Universal?
Yep. Universal = HD DVD exclusive.

Can't wait to see Fry's price for this title.

Smokin' Aces is a Universal Picture :D


HD DVD Exclusive!
Indeed it is. :)

Can't wait to see Fry's price for this title.
I think the price will drop before it is eventually released. At least I hope, still buyin' it though. :D

With google checkout you'll be able to get it for under 20 bucks from a couple places, once it's released.

I don't know about the PQ or the AQ on this, but the movie itself was absolutely terrible.

The only reason you'd get it is for alicia keys :)

That's because Target's web site is Amazon, just re-branded to give the appearance that Target has an online presence.


Did not know that..as I'm from canada. But Thanks for the info.

I don't know about the PQ or the AQ on this, but the movie itself was absolutely terrible.

The only reason you'd get it is for alicia keys :)
I thought it was great. Im buying it because I like it & yes for Alicia Keys. :p

Smokin' Aces is a Universal Picture :D


HD DVD Exclusive!
It'd be nice if SA kicks the crap out of CR in sales, especially if everyone waits to order until April 15
Children of Men too, for that matter!

It'd be nice if SA kicks the crap out of CR in sales, especially if everyone waits to order until April 15
Children of Men too, for that matter!
What is CR? Casino Royale? I can't see Smokin Aces selling even half the quantity that a Bond film would sell. I suspect Casino Royale will be one of the biggest non-Disney Blu-Ray disks to sell this year.

But who knows...

shinksma

What is CR? Casino Royale? I can't see Smokin Aces selling even half the quantity that a Bond film would sell. I suspect Casino Royale will be one of the biggest non-Disney Blu-Ray disks to sell this year.

But who knows...

shinksma
Didn't say it would/could, but it'd really prove something if it did
If I were neutral, I wouldn't by CR, but I would buy SA.

I'm not saying that SA is the most original film, but is the 50th Bond movie original either? If I'm gonna blind buy either of them, it's gonna be the one that I haven't seen a version of the same thing rehashed every year for the past 25 years.

Again this is just me.

Didn't say it would/could, but it'd really prove something if it did
If I were neutral, I wouldn't by CR, but I would buy SA.

I'm not saying that SA is the most original film, but is the 50th Bond movie original either? If I'm gonna blind buy either of them, it's gonna be the one that I haven't seen a version of the same thing rehashed every year for the past 25 years.

Again this is just me.

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Josh

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Joshok :confused:
I'm sure you convinced someone here (since that's why you post here in the first place), but not me.

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO. It's rated PG-13, so it can't be that different

ok :confused:
I'm sure you convinced someone here (since that's why you post here in the first place), but not me.

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO.
I thought that Casino Royale was a letdown, completely overhyped. It was too drawn out for me and boring. I did enjoy the initial chase scene on foot, though. After that I turned it off half way through, watched the second half a couple of days later 'cause I was bored.

One of the better movies I've seen recently is Children of Men. It exceeded the hype I thought. Smokin' Aces was OK, I guess if you like Snatch or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels you'll enjoy Smokin' Aces.

I thought that Casino Royale was a letdown, completely overhyped. It was too drawn out for me and boring. I did enjoy the initial chase scene on foot, though. After that I turned it off half way through, watched the second half a couple of days later 'cause I was bored.

One of the better movies I've seen recently is Children of Men. It exceeded the hype I thought. Smokin' Aces was OK, I guess if you like Snatch or Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels you'll enjoy Smokin' Aces.I enjoy (and spend my money on) original film concepts, not franchises. I'm extremely excited to see CoM!!!!!!

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Josh
Bond is Bond. It's a franchise, you can't reinvent Bond, every actor that plays Bond conforms to the caste. Worldwide, every Bond is the best Bond.

Unlike what the BDA is trying to sell, in the real world, it takes a lot more that one movie; that I can upconvert to HD quality on my A1, to sway an HD DVD owner to the BR side. :p

Besides, it'll be available in HD DVD in Europe real soon. It's a Bond movie, it will be distributed all over Europe and some HD DVD distributor somewhere is bound to own the rights to it.;) :D

ok :confused:
I'm sure you convinced someone here (since that's why you post here in the first place), but not me.

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO. It's rated PG-13, so it can't be that different


Actually it is quite different. For the second time, Bond is actually the character that Ian Fleming invented. And never before has an actor combined that with good screen presence. Add to that the fact that they completely eliminated everything "cutesy" about the franchise (including all of the increasingly inane one-liners and double entendres) and most of the rediculous gadgetry (while still retaining some cool stuff), and you do have a complete re-invention of the franchise. The comparison to Batman Begins is very apt. CR is as different from previous Bond films as BB is from Batman and Robin.

But alas, I won't be buying it until its out on HD DVD...

Besides, it'll be available in HD DVD in Europe real soon. It's a Bond movie, it will be distributed all over Europe and some HD DVD distributor somewhere is bound to own the rights to it.;) :D

I don't think so. In Europe Bond movies are distributed by MGM/Sony, thus a HD-DVD release is not expectable.

Actually it is quite different. For the second time, Bond is actually the character that Ian Fleming invented. And never before has an actor combined that with good screen presence. Add to that the fact that they completely eliminated everything "cutesy" about the franchise (including all of the increasingly inane one-liners and double entendres) and most of the rediculous gadgetry (while still retaining some cool stuff), and you do have a complete re-invention of the franchise. The comparison to Batman Begins is very apt. CR is as different from previous Bond films as BB is from Batman and Robin.

But alas, I won't be buying it until its out on HD DVD...Call me when it's rated R

Call me when it's rated R
I'm too lazy to look it up myself, but has a 007 movie EVER been rated R?

Batman Begins wasn't rated R, and its awesome.

Just my two cents.

I'm too lazy to look it up myself, but has a 007 movie EVER been rated R?

Batman Begins wasn't rated R, and its awesome.

Just my two cents.
Highly doubt it

I didn't compare it to BB, but if we must, it's because it is directed by Christopher Nolan (Memento). The guy who did CR has done nothing but garbage, IMO

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Josh
can't believe i'm agreeing with him :p but best bond ever. when i go back to the sean connery movies, they just don't do it for me with my "modern sensibilities". ;) thunderball used to be my favorite but i watched it recently and it was kind of boring.

they did this one right.

I don't think so. In Europe Bond movies are distributed by MGM/Sony, thus a HD-DVD release is not expectable.
In all of Europe? I seriously doubt that.

European PS3's are being realesed with the BD of CR. Good luck waiting on an HD DVD version. BTW, loved the movie! Saw it at the theatre and bought the BD version. PCM at 4.6MPS=great sound.
Any word on the audio spec's for Smokin Aces? Hopefully DTHD :D

Call me when it's rated R

There are no decent movies that aren't rated R? You sure do limit yourself, I've seen quite a few good dramas or action movies that were PG-13, and even the odd horror flick.

Is it that there's not enough blood for you, or the language isn't coarse enough? Not expecting anything cringe-inducing? How about:

Bond being stripped naked and repeatedly lashed in the nutsack with a heavy weight attached to the end of a rope

That brutal enough for you? I've only seen maybe 5 or 6 other things in other movies in my life that were that painful to watch, and without exception they were in unrated or foreign horror movies.

ok :confused:
I'm sure you convinced someone here (since that's why you post here in the first place), but not me.

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO. It's rated PG-13, so it can't be that different

How can a guy ever get overloaded on Bond? Casino Royale is different from previous Bond flicks and its now my second favorite right behind On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

It's now on the Amazon HD DVD page (http://www.amazon.com/hddvd) and the discount is working.

How can a guy ever get overloaded on Bond? Casino Royale is different from previous Bond flicks and its now my second favorite right behind On Her Majesty's Secret Service.From all my posts in this thread, I made it pretty clear, that I'm overloaded on franchises/sequels/remakes in general.

Studio - "hmm, we need to make some more money. Instead of taking a chance on something original, let's just pump out the 75th Bond movie"

And to make the franchise even lamer, there is always someone else playing Bond! Now that may be what everyone likes about it, but if someone else stepped into Indiana Jones' shoes, it would be a travesty!!! Hey, there's a new Back to the Future... Marty's played by Tobey Maguire... how dumb would that be!!!??

My money is spent on originality

There are no decent movies that aren't rated R? You sure do limit yourself, I've seen quite a few good dramas or action movies that were PG-13, and even the odd horror flick.

Is it that there's not enough blood for you, or the language isn't coarse enough? Not expecting anything cringe-inducing? How about:

Bond being stripped naked and repeatedly lashed in the nutsack with a heavy weight attached to the end of a rope

That brutal enough for you? I've only seen maybe 5 or 6 other things in other movies in my life that were that painful to watch, and without exception they were in unrated or foreign horror movies.When did I ever get off of the topic of Bond, when discussing Ratings? You guys said that CR is different from all the others, and I believe that is completely impossible, unless something like the Rating changes. What does that have to do with any other PG-13 Rated movie??

Do I prefer Rated R films moreso? Sure... but I don't limit myself to them. I like Serentity and that's only Rated PG-13

But thanks, I like being "limited", it's better than being "cookie-cutter"!!

From all my posts in this thread, I made it pretty clear, that I'm overloaded on franchises/sequels/remakes in general.

Studio - "hmm, we need to make some more money. Instead of taking a chance on something original, let's just pump out the 75th Bond movie"

And to make the franchise even lamer, there is always someone else playing Bond! Now that may be what everyone likes about it, but if someone else stepped into Indiana Jones' shoes, it would be a travesty!!! Hey, there's a new Back to the Future... Marty's played by Tobey Maguire... how dumb would that be!!!??

My money is spent on originality

Could you try to sound just a little bit more superior, please?

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Josh


Except the Batman role was taken up by a capable up and coming actor while Bond got a Tomb Raider I lackey. After Austin Powers Bond is very difficult for me to get into as I always think of Scotts comments. Got CR here though so who knows maybe I will change my mind.

THIS IS ABOUT SMOKIN' ACES!

Now how the heck did a thread about an HD DVD release in the HD DVD forum turn into a BR movie thread? :eek:

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO. It's rated PG-13, so it can't be that different

Tired and redundant or not, a good movie is a good movie. For me, Smokin Aces doesn't come anywhere close to being a good movie. I felt like my movie ticket was a waste of money, and sitting in that auditorium a waste of my time.

I'm not sure how you think your statement has any credibility, seeing as how you confessed you haven't seen the new Bond. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it, my friend.

I do hope that Smokin Aces is a well-made transfer with a rawkin' soundtrack for those interested.

If you like Lock and Stock, or Snatch. You will loathe Smokin Aces, the writing and directing aren't anywhere near up to snuff. If you're expecting a good violent action flick its not here. The last 15mins are the only action you'll get. And it is Tom and Jerry Cartoony violence.

I agree that the ticket felt like a waste. But after seeing the ending(Don't ask any one to spoil it.) , I felt more cheated.

To be honest The Departed is more violent.
39.99 is way too much for SA.

On the other hand the raw beauty of Children of Men was enough for me to buy and HD DVD player in addition to BR and go neutral.

laters

ok :confused:
I'm sure you convinced someone here (since that's why you post here in the first place), but not me.

Bond is Bond, and it's tired and redundant, IMO. It's rated PG-13, so it can't be that different

This one was based on the original Ian Fleming novel, and they did a fantastic job of it. again, best Bond movie in years, if not ever. Continuing to ignorantly knock something before you try it is ridiculous and inflammatory. Especially if it's only as an excuse to hype HD DVD over BD releases. I'll say this: I liked Smokin' Aces okay, it was great action, but it was a bit of a letdown. Casino Royale was ten times more than any Bond movie in at very least the last 25 years.

Casino Royale is not your typical Bond movie at all. It has completely reinvented the series much like Batman Begins has with the Batman series. This new Bond is a complete bad ass. Best Bond movie in years!!

~Josh
I think the Bourne series, which is pretty kick ass as well, had something to do with 007's makeover, which was getting stale.

This one was based on the original Ian Fleming novel, and they did a fantastic job of it. again, best Bond movie in years, if not ever. Continuing to ignorantly knock something before you try it is ridiculous and inflammatory. Especially if it's only as an excuse to hype HD DVD over BD releases. I'll say this: I liked Smokin' Aces okay, it was great action, but it was a bit of a letdown. Casino Royale was ten times more than any Bond movie in at very least the last 25 years.
Wow! First time I've been accused of being a troll :confused: :(
Check my post history, you won't find any inflammatory remarks, except for on the topic of OAR

I guess I will go over to the SD Media Forum to discuss my ("superior") views on movies I won't give the time of day.

evidently, art is dead

Wow! First time I've been accused of being a troll :confused: :(
Check my post history, you won't find any inflammatory remarks, except for on the topic of OAR

I guess I will go over to the SD Media Forum to discuss my ("superior") views on movies I won't give the time of day.

evidently, art is dead

I don't have any interest in impuning your past record or you in general. I simply think it's completely unfair to make a judgment call about two movies, one based on its trailer, and the other based on the other movies it was in a series with, which many have said is very different from the current iteration. And as to the 'art' remark, I'm not sure if that's meant to be read as snobbish, or yet another outright attack on the movie and perhaps myself, but the fact is that most people who DID enjoy the changes in this film did not enjoy it because of the action or the cheap thrills; it was the emotionally satisfying and believable acting, screenwriting, and filmography (all more artistic aspects).


If you like Lock and Stock, or Snatch. You will loathe Smokin Aces, the writing and directing aren't anywhere near up to snuff. If you're expecting a good violent action flick its not here. The last 15mins are the only action you'll get. And it is Tom and Jerry Cartoony violence.



Yeah, if you compare it to Guy Ritchie movies, Smokin' Aces really doesn't look like much. There were some fun moments, but there were none of those kitchy, classic moments that abounded in the two you mention. I mean, in Snatch, pretty much every line in that movie was funny if you really stopped to think about them.

I don't have any interest in impuning your past record or you in general. I simply think it's completely unfair to make a judgment call about two movies, one based on its trailer, and the other based on the other movies it was in a series with, which many have said is very different from the current iteration. And as to the 'art' remark, I'm not sure if that's meant to be read as snobbish, or yet another outright attack on the movie and perhaps myself, but the fact is that most people who DID enjoy the changes in this film did not enjoy it because of the action or the cheap thrills; it was the emotionally satisfying and believable acting, screenwriting, and filmography (all more artistic aspects).





Yeah, if you compare it to Guy Ritchie movies, Smokin' Aces really doesn't look like much. There were some fun moments, but there were none of those kitchy, classic moments that abounded in the two you mention. I mean, in Snatch, pretty much every line in that movie was funny if you really stopped to think about them.Maybe CR should have won the Oscar than

My opinion, which has been ripped to shreds, is that both movies will be terrible (since I have seen neither). But my money would be spent on SA since it is not a franchise movie, and I can go into it not expecting anything, like you can with a franchise movie.

I don't care if you think I'm snobish. Hollywood will quit releasing garbage, when people wake up and demand better quality

Is Smokin Aces worth buying?

I never heard of this movie and know everyone has there own tastes (BTW I didnt like CR) but figured I would ask. Typically I like war type action movies....

I wanted to see it, so I'd like to know if it is decent.

I enjoyed this one and will definitely be buying it. If you like films like True Romance and Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels, you might enjoy this one.

Here are two earlier threads discussing the movie:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795934

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=811957