View Full Version : Here Comes THE ROAD WARRIOR!
Fettastic 03-14-07, 10:15 AM http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f227/filmjax/5_8-e-annouce.jpg
Thanks to dpags for the heads up and the photo. here is a link to the original thread in the BD section:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=819439
ShagMan 03-14-07, 10:26 AM Wooooo, May 8th!
SoulOnice 03-14-07, 10:27 AM sweeeeeeet!
Fettastic 03-14-07, 10:29 AM I don't know about you guys, but The Road Warrior is one of my favorite movies. I was 11 years old when my mom took me to see George Miller's opus (yes, I had a cool mom :cool: ). My first impression was shock and horror at the rape scene and the fingers getting cut off.
The whole loner guy with a cool car and a dog just trying to survive in a wasteland is just incredibly intrigueing. The cinematography is gorgeous, the costumes interesting and the story cool. Humungous is one of the most vile and freaky bad guys in cinema history.
The Road Warrior completely redefined what speed on screen was. Nobody had ever seen anything like the adrenaline-fueled images he created.
So George, less talking animals and more racing please. There has periodically been talk of revisiting the Mad Max series. At times Mel has been on and offboard. Fury Road was actually in preproduction with a massive payday to Mel at one point, but for reasons I'm not privy to, it all fell apart.
But nothing's going to top The Road Warrior. It's one of the best sci-fi films ever made and is the benchmark for racing films.
Fettastic 03-14-07, 10:32 AM I'm assuming the commentary is the only extra which is too bad. There was a special edition VHS that had a short 7 minute (I think) featurette. I kept holding out for the SE DVD to come out including it but it never did.
Gary Murrell 03-14-07, 10:33 AM oh my, Road Warrior is something I have been looking forward to forever :eek:
-Gary
b.greenway 03-14-07, 10:35 AM Why are the HD DVD's in the front?
/tin foil hat off
Fettastic 03-14-07, 10:38 AM I also would have preferred the original poster art on the cover:
http://www.hotmovienews.com/images/poster/1488.jpg
But I'm sure someone online will oblige.
Gary Murrell 03-14-07, 10:39 AM Why are the HD DVD's in the front?
/tin foil hat off
because HD-DVD is better ;)
-Gary
b.greenway 03-14-07, 10:40 AM because HD-DVD is better ;)
-Gary
lol, glad my humor showed through.
The stunts in this are just insane . Way too dangerous to get away with in todays terms ( way too dangerous back then to be honest). The way some of those guy's come flying off their bikes you just know they broke bones ( and they did). One rather large explosion produces way too much shrapnel and large debris to be considered remotely safe.
cool!
I'd love to see another version of Damnation Alley that was faithful to the book as its the archetypal road warrior story ( nothing like the crummy effort Fox made with George Peppard ,all that shares is the title)
Woot! Thanks for the heads up, fettastic.
EXCELLENT flick, and despite its age, you know it can look awesome, so much of it is shot outdoors...if those scenes hold up like the outdoor scenes in the older Blazing Saddles, this will be a KILLER addition, thanks WB! :D
And before it even gets mentioned, keep the Mel bashing thoughts elsewhere. :)
underdog57 03-14-07, 10:50 AM Bring on Mad Max !!
Great news on road warrior ! WoW
Adam_ME 03-14-07, 11:13 AM This news is Humungus!;)
derekjsmith 03-14-07, 11:16 AM Yea, I have the Mad Max trilogy including the original australian release of The Road Warrior. I hope the HD version is from the australian release and not the US one which I also have. The US release had the audio overdubbed with a less of an aussie accent so us Americans could understand the dialog. Kind of funny but the dispatcher in the US version was a soft spoken woman and on the original is was a man with a very strong gruff accent. They even overdubbed Mel :(
Does someone have a email address for Warner HD so I can ask and make sure they are using the original soundtrack or at least include both soundtracks :)
Sweet looks like it time to UG my LDs
RudyMeister 03-14-07, 11:30 AM Count me in!!!!!
Finally some excitement!!!
underdog57 03-14-07, 11:31 AM Sweet looks like it time to UG my LDs
I have ld's and dvd to unload , those ld covers are sure cool though ... :)
jdawg131 03-14-07, 11:33 AM Nice. I saw the Road Warrior on HD channel a couple of months ago and it looked much, much better than the SD DVD release.
underdog57 03-14-07, 11:33 AM This news is Humungus!;)
Just leave , and i'll let you live . Humungus quote...
They are really picking some awesome movies ....
gerrynole 03-14-07, 12:58 PM Great news!!!
Will be my first order on April 15
Both will be in my collection... Any specs available on them yet?
Iggster 03-14-07, 01:06 PM well i want the road warrior but which ever of the two formats is cheaper or has better sq ill get :)
rockytt 03-14-07, 01:24 PM Yea, I have the Mad Max trilogy including the original australian release of The Road Warrior.
My understanding was that Mad Max (The original) was the one with the dubbed soundtrack. I've got the Australian version of both Mad Max and The Road Warrior and only the first has a dubbed track for Mel Gibson...
Fettastic 03-14-07, 01:29 PM My understanding was that Mad Max (The original) was the one with the dubbed soundtrack. I've got the Australian version of both Mad Max and The Road Warrior and only the first has a dubbed track for Mel Gibson...
Yeah I think he got those two confused. Mad Max was distributed by MGM by the way so it will be Blu-ray exclusive.
SEMAJ92 03-14-07, 01:32 PM Great news!!!
Will be my first order on April 15
I was thinking the same thing.
So, guess no one here like's classic war movies...
alpha21 03-14-07, 01:59 PM So, guess no one here like's classic war movies...I thought that was an adult film :D
Woohoo, one of my al time favorites!
I thought that was an adult film :D
:)
DeathStalker2 03-14-07, 02:21 PM Nobody.......Noooooooooooooooooooooobody will stop me from getting this!! Sweet news.
Geoff D 03-14-07, 02:51 PM Eeeeek! Mad Max 2! I can finally retire my laserdisc version.
oh_riginal 03-14-07, 03:19 PM Mad Max and The Road Warrior are TRUE car movies, unlike The Fast and the Furious movies (except maybe the third one in some parts) and that Nicholas Cage Gone in 60 Seconds crap. They depended too much on CGI for their stunts and camera angles. The Mad Max films used REAL cars, with cameras pointing at them AS THEY WERE DRIVING! These movies are classics, in my opinion, and are up there with Conan the Barbarian, for old school action.
BUT, I'm not much of a Thunderdome fan. Maybe the first act, but the rest of the movie is boring, and the final act is recycled from The Road Warrior, with a train instead of a truck.
underdog57 03-14-07, 03:22 PM Mad Max and The Road Warrior are TRUE car movies, unlike The Fast and the Furious movies (except maybe the third one in some parts) and that Nicholas Cage Gone in 60 Seconds crap. They depended too much on CGI for their stunts and camera angles. The Mad Max films used REAL cars, with cameras pointing at them AS THEY WERE DRIVING! These movies are classics, in my opinion, and are up there with Conan the Barbarian, for old school action.
BUT, I'm not much of a Thunderdome fan. Maybe the first act, but the rest of the movie is boring, and the final act is recycled from The Road Warrior, with a train instead of a truck.
Tina Turner was great in that though ...I like em all
But the first possibly the best ..
The last of the V8's !!
Fettastic 03-14-07, 03:36 PM Thunderdome had some cool stuff in it. I hated all the prophecy crap and the kids. When will Hollywood learn? Never, EVER put kids in sci-fi/action films! You have to slow everything down and explain everything to them and comfort them and keep track of them. It's all so tedious.
And yes, Tina Turner was HOT-TUH in that film. :cool:
Scagnetti 03-14-07, 03:37 PM Lord Humungus has got to be one of the greatest villians of all time. I would say Mola Ram from Temple of Doom and Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China are strong contenders though. Lord H says, "Just Walk Away."
oh_riginal 03-14-07, 03:44 PM Lord Humungus has got to be one of the greatest villians of all time. I would say Mola Ram from Temple of Doom and Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China are strong contenders though. Lord H says, "Just Walk Away."
Big Trouble in Little China has one of the best onscreen villain deaths ever, IMO. :cool:
Fettastic 03-14-07, 03:45 PM By the way, I WANT this car!
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/fanstuff/artwork/YoshihitoTomobe/mad%20max%2000.jpghttp://www13.plala.or.jp/taka-yama/hobby-intercepter1.jpg
oh_riginal 03-14-07, 03:46 PM By the way, I WANT this car!
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/fanstuff/artwork/YoshihitoTomobe/mad%20max%2000.jpg
Aren't they supposed to be extremely rare? I think I heard that somewhere once.
Scagnetti 03-14-07, 03:48 PM Big Trouble in Little China has one of the best onscreen villain deaths ever, IMO. :cool:
Let me guess. One of of Lo Pan's henchmen that exploded into cabbage?
Any word on a restoration, remastering, for "RW"?
Is this just going to be a HiDef transfer of the "RW" SD DVD source?
Audio?
Thanks.
underdog57 03-14-07, 03:59 PM Lord Humungus has got to be one of the greatest villians of all time. I would say Mola Ram from Temple of Doom and Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little China are strong contenders though. Lord H says, "Just Walk Away."
The Itola of Rock and Rolla !! Tough looking dude ...
He had a very scary presence !! He was a wrestler in real life ??
FatiusJeebs 03-14-07, 04:01 PM Man...this was one of the first movies I saw on Cable when I was a kid. I'm Psyched!!!!!
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:05 PM Thunderdome had some cool stuff in it. I hated all the prophecy crap and the kids. When will Hollywood learn? Never, EVER put kids in sci-fi/action films! You have to slow everything down and explain everything to them and comfort them and keep track of them. It's all so tedious.
And yes, Tina Turner was HOT-TUH in that film. :cool:
Tina can rope me with her golden lasso , and I'll tell the truth ...
Oh , mixed that up with Wonder Woman ...LOL
The fight in the cage with the masta blasta was something .
And meeting up with the guy with the plane was cool .
yeah , lot of good stuff !!! Embargo!! And Barter town
Bob
Tina Turner was great in that though ...I like em all
But the first possibly the best ..
The last of the V8's !!
I'm prone to think you like the second "Mad Max" movie the "best" of the three.
Especially, since you quoted the second movie (Road Warrior)!
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:06 PM Aren't they supposed to be extremely rare? I think I heard that somewhere once.
I think it was a Mustang two made in OZ ,
Could be mixed up on that ....
Eric D. 03-14-07, 04:11 PM "Just walk away"
God damn I love this movie. Plus the SD DVD version has an awful transfer, so I can't wait to see how good it looks on HD DVD.
Fettastic 03-14-07, 04:11 PM I think it was a Mustang two made in OZ ,
Could be mixed up on that ....
I don't think the Interceptor was ever a real car, even as a base. It was probably a tricked-out Firebird.
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:12 PM I'm prone to think you like the second "Mad Max" movie the "best" of the three.
Especially, since you quoted the second movie (Road Warrior)!
Oh , yeah .
I was thinking of the part where they fire up the just built car in the first one though ...Enticing max to stay on the force ...You got me on that!!
That bike the Goose rode was bad too..
Bob
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:15 PM I don't think the Interceptor was ever a real car, even as a base. It was probably a tricked-out Firebird.
Friendly Bet . I bet you it was a Ford . A modded Capri or Mustang ...
Will look it up after I sub this to ya !!
Bob
PooperScooper 03-14-07, 04:15 PM I'd like to see them release all 3 in a box set. Decent content is coming oh so slowly.
larry
When will Hollywood learn? Never, EVER put kids in sci-fi/action films! You have to slow everything down and explain everything to them and comfort them and keep track of them. It's all so tedious.
Like the kid in "Aliens"?
Or, the kid in "T2"?
"Poltergeist"?
"DS9"?
I could go on...
butt, I'm just "kidding"!
:p
EDit:
I'm not an "early adopter".
I can't "afford" 2B.
However, if the XA2 is 1080p 24fps output from the factory soon
&
"BR" as well as "RW" are available...
who can wait any longer?!?!?!?!?!
:o
oh_riginal 03-14-07, 04:18 PM Let me guess. One of of Lo Pan's henchmen that exploded into cabbage?
No... the knife catch and return.
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:18 PM Friendly Bet . I bet you it was a Ford . A modded Capri or Mustang ...
Will look it up after I sub this to ya !!
Bob
One post I found ...
I'm a car nutcase so no hard feelings !!
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/interceptor/history1.html
PooperScooper 03-14-07, 04:21 PM Any word on a restoration, remastering, for "RW"?
Is this just going to be a HiDef transfer of the "RW" SD DVD source?
Audio?
Thanks.
Most likely the same digital master being used or they would problaby have come out with a new special edition or something SD DVD. The 70mm movie version has 6 track audio. The SD DVD has DD 5.1. The SD DVD is 10 years old next week! :eek:
larry
Edit: Look at this! 5/22/2007 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000NA1WGS/imdb-button/
It doesn't say anything about a remaster...
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:22 PM Like the kid in "Aliens"?
Or, the kid in "T2"?
"Poltergeist"?
"DS9"?
I could go on...
butt, I'm just "kidding"!
:p
EDit:
I'm not an "early adopter".
I can't "afford" 2B.
However, if the XA2 is 1080p 24fps output from the factory soon
&
"BR" as well as "RW" are available...
who can wait any longer?!?!?!?!?!
:o
Like The Kid in "The Kid" Bruce Willis Movie .
Bunch of kidders around here !!
dvdmike007 03-14-07, 04:22 PM I also would have preferred the original poster art on the cover:
http://www.hotmovienews.com/images/poster/1488.jpg
But I'm sure someone online will oblige.
So do I : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/dvdmike/poster2.jpg
and they could at least get the name right ... :p
Any word on a restoration, remastering, for "RW"?
Is this just going to be a HiDef transfer of the "RW" SD DVD source?
Audio?
Thanks.
God I hope they learnt their lesson from the lethal weapon mess
oh_riginal 03-14-07, 04:22 PM I don't think the Interceptor was ever a real car, even as a base. It was probably a tricked-out Firebird.
I seem to remember seeing a documentary (probably on the Mad Max special edition DVD, but I'm not sure) that the car was something made in Australia, and is a genuine car (though tricked out obviously). If I recall right, it was mentioned that there wasn't a whole lot of them made, and thus they have become rare over time. The popularity of the Mad Max movies have obviously turned them into collector's items.
Fettastic 03-14-07, 04:23 PM Like the kid in "Aliens"?
Yes, exactly.
Or, the kid in "T2"?
OH GOD YES!
"Poltergeist"?
There were a couple of kids and one of them spent most of the film in the TV. But that's a horror film so it's different. Vulnerability is an asset in horror films.
"DS9"?
Man oh man did I hate Jake and Nog! What a total waste of time their constant whining was!
Fettastic 03-14-07, 04:25 PM One post I found ...
I'm a car nutcase so no hard feelings !!
http://www.madmaxmovies.com/cars/interceptor/history1.html
Cool, thanks. Ford Falcon Coupe.
underdog57 03-14-07, 04:31 PM Cool, thanks. Ford Falcon Coupe.
Seems like people were making clones of these , I'm sure a web search will
have a ton of imfo on this ...
Mean looking set of wheels !!
It looks a lot like an AMX I always thought ..........
Bob
derekjsmith 03-14-07, 04:32 PM Yeah I think he got those two confused. Mad Max was distributed by MGM by the way so it will be Blu-ray exclusive.
Yes I was thinking of the first Mad Max, the Road Warrior being Mad Max 2. So I was looking at the copyrights on the back of them. The original US release was from Orion Home Video with the overdub and the re release from from MGM with the original soundtrack.
Matt_Stevens 03-14-07, 04:57 PM HDNet Movies aired the uncut version of ROAD WARRIOR last year (I still have it on DVHS). I hope that Warner is releasing that version and not the edited US version (which has always been the one they go with here).
toxic_avenger 03-14-07, 05:13 PM Awesome news I'll be picking up The Road Warrior for sure it's one of my all time faves.
jon smith 03-14-07, 05:20 PM So is this Mad Max 1 or 2 - the different names in the US confuse the hell out of me.
Bob Black 03-14-07, 06:03 PM So is this Mad Max 1 or 2 - the different names in the US confuse the hell out of me.
It's Mad Max 2.
This was one of my very first laserdiscs back in the day! I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS RELEASE! Come on warner, officially announce Poltergeist now!
cnikirk 03-14-07, 06:16 PM So, guess no one here like's classic war movies...
I do. I will buy just about every war movie that comes out on HD DVD. Band of Brothers will be the ultimate purchase for me.
metalsaber 03-14-07, 06:22 PM Defintely getting Road Warrior.
John Chu 03-14-07, 06:36 PM "The bullet boy...get the bullet!"
Thump -thump....thump-thump....thump-thump....
"The Road Warrior" was the film that introduced me to Beta Hi-Fi stereo sound.
In those days VHS had that crappy Dolby Stereo--which was no better than cassette tape sound with Dolby Noise Reduction. But Sony came up with AFM stereo recording using the video heads.
I remember listening to that opening sequence when Mel pushes "the supercharger" button and rams the car in front of him. Awesome!
Speaking of stunts...I still remember that sequence where the woman warrior got shot with the arrows and the bad guys pull her off the rig...you can literally see her body fall...and then seemlingly get run over by the rear wheels of the big rig.
Nasty stuff.
Oh yeah...those were not "bullets" ...they were shot gun shells....
I skipped buying this film on DVD....but will definitely get it on HD DVD.
jazzmaster221 03-14-07, 06:59 PM yes ...count me in
TrevorS 03-14-07, 08:10 PM Yea, I have the Mad Max trilogy including the original australian release of The Road Warrior. I hope the HD version is from the australian release and not the US one which I also have. The US release had the audio overdubbed with a less of an aussie accent so us Americans could understand the dialog. Kind of funny but the dispatcher in the US version was a soft spoken woman and on the original is was a man with a very strong gruff accent. They even overdubbed Mel :(
Does someone have a email address for Warner HD so I can ask and make sure they are using the original soundtrack or at least include both soundtracks :)
The most recent SD "Mad Max" includes the original "Aussie" soundtrack. I prefer that one :).
PooperScooper 03-14-07, 09:00 PM I do. I will buy just about every war movie that comes out on HD DVD. Band of Brothers will be the ultimate purchase for me.
I'll be getting all of them - TBOTB, A Bridge Too Far, Battle of Britain, and Platoon(!!!)
larry
underdog57 03-14-07, 09:04 PM "The bullet boy...get the bullet!"
Thump -thump....thump-thump....thump-thump....
"The Road Warrior" was the film that introduced me to Beta Hi-Fi stereo sound.
In those days VHS had that crappy Dolby Stereo--which was no better than cassette tape sound with Dolby Noise Reduction. But Sony came up with AFM stereo recording using the video heads.
I remember listening to that opening sequence when Mel pushes "the supercharger" button and rams the car in front of him. Awesome!
Speaking of stunts...I still remember that sequence where the woman warrior got shot with the arrows and the bad guys pull her off the rig...you can literally see her body fall...and then seemlingly get run over by the rear wheels of the big rig.
Nasty stuff.
Oh yeah...those were not "bullets" ...they were shot gun shells....
I skipped buying this film on DVD....but will definitely get it on HD DVD.
I had the Toshiba VS-36 Beta Hi-fi . Best machine I ever owned . Was stolen , and I found another one used later ..
One reason I like Toshiba was that unit !!Blew VHS away ...
Lot of gritty stuff in Road Warrior . Good one !!
Bob
Dave Mack 03-14-07, 09:08 PM The most recent SD "Mad Max" includes the original "Aussie" soundtrack. I prefer that one :).
yep, the dubbed "american" version is atrocious!
THE ROAD WARRIOR will be mine. :D
underdog57 03-14-07, 09:18 PM Yes I was thinking of the first Mad Max, the Road Warrior being Mad Max 2. So I was looking at the copyrights on the back of them. The original US release was from Orion Home Video with the overdub and the re release from from MGM with the original soundtrack.
Not sure if this will help , but here a link to try....
http://www2.warnerbros.com/main/homepage/homepage.html?frompage=
Good luck !!
Bob
David Scott 03-14-07, 09:46 PM HDNet Movies aired the uncut version of ROAD WARRIOR last year (I still have it on DVHS). I hope that Warner is releasing that version and not the edited US version (which has always been the one they go with here).
I had it saved on my Tivo (until it died) and it looked fettastic....I mean fantastic :p .
cleaver 03-15-07, 07:42 AM This will sell very well in Kazakstan, where it is titled (translated) The Anti-Jewish Warrior.
The Road Warrior is a must buy! Remember when Mel Gibson was actually cool? This second Mad Max movie has an ambience that surpasses the more slick and bigger budget later release of Thunderdome.
los seres 03-15-07, 08:15 PM Cover Road Warrior
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6804/trwdl8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3521/trw2vb8.jpg
The Man Room (http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-cover.php?did=3758)
romanesq 03-15-07, 11:26 PM An excellent flick and IMHO, the best of the series. It had everything that you love and a good budget to pull it off.
Anyone mind if I indulge in a little HD DVD fanboyism here?
I love this movie.
99% visual, not a lot of tedious dialog, a lot of action, tells a story with pictures and let's you work out the rest.
This movie alone is damn near reason enough to have HD DVD.
I'll take this over POTC, Casino Royale and Spiderman put together :D
ThePrisoner 03-16-07, 05:21 AM Is this going to be a remaster? Either way I'm stoked! I remember seeing this in the theater with my parents and a neighborhood buddy. After that we would ride our BMX bikes around the neighborhood like Humungus' gang.
Oh, that soundtrack is incredible. How many of you have heard Mars, The Bringer Of War from The Planets by Gustov Holst? Think I'm gonna go listen to it now!!!:)
rover2002 03-16-07, 05:37 AM Why don't they release 'Mad Max' first?
rover2002 03-16-07, 05:42 AM Cover Road Warrior
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/6804/trwdl8.jpg
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3521/trw2vb8.jpg
The Man Room (http://dvd.themanroom.com/dvd-cover.php?did=3758)
Looks like the 96 min version.
ShagMan 03-16-07, 06:14 AM Can somebody wiser fill us in on the versions and what's added for the longer cut... and which cut is on the HD-DVD here?
Great movie. Will pick this up on HD DVD.
Here's the Aussie car they used to build the Interceptor:
http://www.aussiecoupes.com/xa-xb-xc.html
barrym71 03-16-07, 06:53 AM Why don't they release 'Mad Max' first?
Because they don't own the distrubution rights - it's MGM.
I don't think the Interceptor was ever a real car, even as a base. It was probably a tricked-out Firebird.
I know others touched on it, but Wiki had a pretty good writeup on it.
In the movie it was the "Pursuit Special"
Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_Special)
Also, as others have said, people make replica's of them now...
http://www.lastinterceptor.com/ReplicaStats/PursuitSpecial/
and
http://home.cogeco.ca/~5.7interceptor/Falcon.htm
I'm not a big Ford fan myself, but you better believe I'd own one of these given the chance (especially for the nostalgia factor ;))
somekind 03-16-07, 09:09 AM I don't know about you guys, but The Road Warrior is one of my favorite movies. I was 11 years old when my mom took me to see George Miller's opus (yes, I had a cool mom :cool: ). My first impression was shock and horror at the rape scene and the fingers getting cut off.
The whole loner guy with a cool car and a dog just trying to survive in a wasteland is just incredibly intrigueing. The cinematography is gorgeous, the costumes interesting and the story cool. Humungous is one of the most vile and freaky bad guys in cinema history.
The Road Warrior completely redefined what speed on screen was. Nobody had ever seen anything like the adrenaline-fueled images he created.
So George, less talking animals and more racing please. There has periodically been talk of revisiting the Mad Max series. At times Mel has been on and offboard. Fury Road was actually in preproduction with a massive payday to Mel at one point, but for reasons I'm not privy to, it all fell apart.
But nothing's going to top The Road Warrior. It's one of the best sci-fi films ever made and is the benchmark for racing films.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. My dad took me to see it when I was 11 and I made him take me back the next day to see it again. A great flick with no gratuitous kissing or love scenes. Who needs that?
PooperScooper 03-16-07, 09:27 AM ^^^ A little duct tape around the snout will fix the barking problem. :)
larry
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