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ckhusker
03-15-07, 01:15 AM
Still trying to understand exactly how processing works between devices. I have the Westinghouse 37" 1080p monitor. From the Westinghouse website:

Q: Will a progressive scan DVD player provide better video?

A: This LCD TV includes a progressive scan converter that is comparable to the scan-converter built into progressive scan DVD players.

3 Questions:

1) Given that it has a progressive scan converter and that it is a 1920x1080 display, does this mean that everything that comes through a digital input is "upconverted" to 1080p?

2) Does this render an upconverting DVD player unnecessary?

3) If I have a signal that is converted "upstream", is it left alone by the display (as though it were an original 1080p signal, for example)?

Thanks in advance. Learning a lot on this forum.

fatjulio
03-15-07, 01:53 AM
Answers:
1. Yes, the display is 1920 x 1080, so everything that you plug into it is displayed at this resolution.

2. Maybe, it's a matter of which has the better quality - player or display. The only way to find out is try both ways.

3. Yes, for progressive scan that is. Scaling is another matter, if it's not 1920 x 1080 then it will scale it.

Hothersale
03-15-07, 03:01 PM
3. Yes, for progressive scan that is. Scaling is another matter, if it's not 1920 x 1080 then it will scale it.
Even if the the signal is 1920 x 1080, the display will STILL scale the image unless it has a 1:1 pixel mode (aka native rate) that allows you to bypass the scaler altogether. That's why you still get overscan with 1080i/p sources.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. (Like I even need to say that on this forum. ;) )

bfdtv
03-15-07, 05:12 PM
Even if the the signal is 1920 x 1080, the display will STILL scale the image unless it has a 1:1 pixel mode (aka native rate) that allows you to bypass the scaler altogether. That's why you still get overscan with 1080i/p sources.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. (Like I even need to say that on this forum. ;) )Absolutely right. Many digital displays scale 1920x1080p input by 4-5% on each side to create overscan.

In order to get the original, unprocessed 1080p signal directly on your screen, you need a display that will do 1:1 pixel mapping.

ckhusker
03-16-07, 01:43 AM
Absolutely right. Many digital displays scale 1920x1080p input by 4-5% on each side to create overscan.

In order to get the original, unprocessed 1080p signal directly on your screen, you need a display that will do 1:1 pixel mapping.

I have 3 HD displays:

1) Panasonic TH50PHD8UK 50" Plasma (1366x768)
2) BENQ PE7700 (1280x720)
3) Westinghouse LVM-37w3 (1920x1080)

Can I assume that the BENQ & the Westinghouse will automatically map pixels 1-to-1 for 720p/1080p inputs (respectively)? If not, do you know how I would tell if it is capable? Also, for the Panasonic, do you know how I would tell if it will do 1-to-1 pixel mapping?

I very much appreciate all of the input. Very helpful.

Hothersale
03-16-07, 10:13 AM
Can I assume that the BENQ & the Westinghouse will automatically map pixels 1-to-1 for 720p/1080p inputs (respectively)? If not, do you know how I would tell if it is capable? Also, for the Panasonic, do you know how I would tell if it will do 1-to-1 pixel mapping?
No, I don't think you can assume that they will do it autmatically. I'm almost certain that it's an option you would have to enable somewhere in the menus. I don't know the BENQ or the Westinghouse models at all, so I can't be much help with them.

With the 8UK, you will need the DVI blade in order to enable 1:1 pixel mapping. It's the only input that supports it.