Please place only related comments for Saturday & Sunday Second Round games on CBS in this topic. (All DirecTV Mega March Madness comments belong in this topic: 2007 Mega March Madness in HDTV on DirecTV - Second Round Saturday/Sunday (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=820934) )

Previous threads:
First Round Games on CBS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=819927)
MMM - First Round Games on DirecTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=819913)


It's very important to be specific with your info, including location, station call letters, and source - Local over-the-air reception / Cable / DirecTV (channel number / MPEG4 locals or NYC/LA) / Dish Network (channel number / MPEG4 locals or NYC/LA).

Thanks in advance for your participation at AVS.

All Times ET

Saturday's Games:
1:10 pm Xavier #9 Ohio St. #1
3:20 pm Butler #5 Maryland #4
3:40 pm Louisville #6 Texas A&M #3
5:40 pm Vanderbilt #6 Washington St. #3
5:45 pm Boston College #7 Georgetown #2
5:50 pm VCU #11 Pittsburgh #3
8:10 pm Indiana #7 UCLA #2
8:15 pm Michigan St. #9 North Carolina #1

Sunday's Games
12:10 pm Tennessee #5 Virginia #4
2:15 pm Nevada #7 Memphis #2
2:30 pm UNLV #7 Wisconsin #2
2:40 pm Virginia Tech #5 Southern Ill. #4
2:50 pm Winthrop #11 Oregon #3
4:45 pm Purdue #9 Florida #1
5:00 pm Kentucky #8 Kansas #1
5:15 pm Southern Cal #5 Texas #4

Xavier vs Ohio St just dropped from HD to SD here in Des Moines on KCCI-DT via Mediacom.

I am at our shop, and the CBS feed on all of our TV's are terrible. CBS really needs to step this up. It must be compressed to hell and back.

I called and they said the problem is with CBS. Oh well, NASCAR starts at 3pm ET.

Annnnd, HD is back... just in time ;)

I think it's a dreaded sun outage. TWC in San Diego - every channel is like this, not just KFMB (8/708).

WUSA/CBS can blow me again. Maryland game in SD. No excuse for that since there is only other game in this slot, and won't start for another 30 minutes.

WUSA/CBS can blow me again. Maryland game in SD. No excuse for that since there is only other game in this slot, and won't start for another 30 minutes.
If you can get it tune to 13-1 out of Baltimore. Game is in HD. I too thought it was an issue with the national feed (I was watching 9-1) until I tried 13-1.

Xavier did not play smart. The coach of Xavier did not instruct his players
to foul in the closing seconds of the game, and the players did not have the wherewithall to make that decision themselves.

With under five seconds to play, Ohio State would have been at
the line down by three rather than hitting a
three-pointer to tie the game. Further, Ohio State had
great three-point shooters to take that last shot.

And the announcers didn't even mention the strategy or
lack thereof. So what else in new?

How is it that the OSU/Xavier game was shown in HD and now the A&M/Loiusville game is in SD and they are both being played at the same location?

How is it that the OSU/Xavier game was shown in HD and now the A&M/Loiusville game is in SD and they are both being played at the same location?


It is most likely because the Dallas station is broadcasting the constant feed which is SD so you will not get switched to the Butler-Maryland game. Conversly since I am in Indianapolis I am getting the Butler game in SD. Your HD will be back after the A&M game.

You may experience the same pain tomorrow for the Texas game. Emphasize the word may. We have been told by our local CBS engineer that the Indiana game will be in HD tonight.

How is it that the OSU/Xavier game was shown in HD and now the A&M/Loiusville game is in SD and they are both being played at the same location?

SRIBB - If you get Ch. 80 on D*, tune to that - you can see A+M/Louisville in HD b/c New York is flexed into it. (i'm in dallas also and haven't touched channel 11 b/c it's showing the SD constant feed of A+M).

Same goes tomorrow during the TExas game, provided New York shows that game. Cna't see why not because of Durant's star power.

TWC San Diego now functional as of 2:30 PM PDT.

I was able to watch the highlights on the Mega Madness on Demand on ncaasports.com (got right in on Butler/Maryland, no waiting).

WREG, OTA, 1 sub. Believe it or not some of these screen shots I took were good shots.

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vandy/wazzu in sd.

ut/lbsu was in hd the whole time

What's the reasoning behind sd vs hd? This is the second WSU game in SD. I know they have the equipment in Sacramento because one of the other games was in HD

OK, I was a little miffed getting BC/Gtown in SD, but I figured it was because here in Boston we'd get the "constant feed". But now they just broke away to the Lville/TAMU game, first in SD, then flipped to HD. :confused:

I have yet to see any HD for the past 30 minutes that I have been in. Wow...I thought this entire tourney was HD....

Now WBZ has switched to HD for BC/GTown. :D

Pitt vs VCU was HD for about 12 seconds coming out of an HD studio break..but after 12 or maybe 15 seconds someone switched it to SD and we have had it pillarboxed since that time...I do not remember this happening at all during round one...

Vanderbilt vs WSU is in HD now in the second half.

Now WBZ has switched to HD for BC/GTown. :D

That was sweet. I also noticed that WPRI OTA in Providence has switched to HD on that game as well.

So either CBS flexed the whole region or there were a lot of complaint calls to each station.

HD Facilities for the W/S and Sacremento HD Constant feeds were tied up on the late running Texas A&M v Louisville

With 0 subs on WTKR (OTA) : mostly on BC vs Gtown
the rate is about 17.5 during action to 16.9/17.0 during commercials

Anyone know why CBS goes blurry all the time... seems like every time they cut to a new
game or to the studio it's blurry and then slowly comes into focus. I've noticed this in the
NFL and College Football games also... something to do with their production trucks and/or
cameras maybe? Other networks don't do this... and it's pretty annoying...

Well, KCBS has someone manning the switch again today. Michigan St/NC was in SD (even saw a slide that said "Sacramento Constant" at one point) - when it came time to switch to the UCLA game, the HD backhaul came up, initially with no voiceover, then with Greg Gumbel's voice overlayed with the HD picture, then silence before switching to the game announcers.

As was the case last night, no scorebar along the top since this is the backhaul. (SD analog feed has the scorebar, of course.) Also, hard transitions into commercial breaks when they throw the switch.

Will be interesting to see how KCBS handles halftime - SD or HD?

Just noticed: if they have the NY announcer voiceover with the sponsors, that's in SD, then KCBS does a hard switch to the HD backhaul.

WANE - Ft.Wayne - OTA & Comcast

Gotta hand it to you guys, superb coverage dawn-to-dusk !

Nice to have the Tiffany network back again...

Despite assurances from the engineer at our local CBS affiliate that we would get the IU-UCLA game in HD, we have been getting it in SD. In fact it took them a couple of minutes to switch from the Mich State-UNC game on their digital channel so we missed the start of the game.

Anyone know why CBS goes blurry all the time... seems like every time they cut to a new
game or to the studio it's blurry and then slowly comes into focus. I've noticed this in the
NFL and College Football games also... something to do with their production trucks and/or
cameras maybe? Other networks don't do this... and it's pretty annoying...

Answer here (http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7293536&&#post7293536)

Much appreciated, meteor3, thanks!

Will be interesting to see how KCBS handles halftime - SD or HD?

KCBS switched to the HD flex feed for halftime. Now why couldn't they have done that at the start of MSU/UNC before going to the UCLA game? :confused:

Is anyone getting IU/UCLA in HD?

Read an article from a New Zealand publication, and this first line made me do a double-take:
Tall Black Craig Bradshaw enhanced his NBA prospects as he led Winthrop University to their first ever victory in the NCAA Tournament, a 74-64 upset of Notre Dame University.

then I found this at wikipedia:
The Tall Blacks is the nickname of New Zealand's national men's basketball team. The name was chosen as it reminds people of New Zealand's Rugby Union team, the All Blacks.

Thank goodness.

Is anyone getting IU/UCLA in HD?

HD here in Nashville - WTVF - Comcast

HD in Charlotte.

Not sure. It went back on D* into HD after the MSU/UNC game.

Read an article from a New Zealand publication, and this first line made me do a double-take:


then I found this at wikipedia:


Thank goodness.

You think that's bad, check out the nick name for the New Zealand badminton team!


http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Melbourne2006/0,,2-9-2010_1901252,00.html

:D :D :D

You think that's bad, check out the nick name for the New Zealand badminton team!


http://www.news24.com/News24/Sport/Melbourne2006/0,,2-9-2010_1901252,00.html

:D :D :D
I gotta get me one of those shirts!!!

CPanther95 - Do you think the Winthrop/Oregon game will be in HD today at all? My guess is no. I know you're in Charlotte and I'm in Lexington/Columbia...but we're both still the 'local' market...

This stinks.

I'd say yes. WBTV has said that they'll stick with the HD feed throughout the tournament.

Point your antenna North if Columbia doesn't come through.

I posted this in the first round thread but didn't see a response.

Is anyone getting any HD commercials? All that I am getting is SD 5.1 commercials.

I posted this in the first round thread but didn't see a response.

Is anyone getting any HD commercials? All that I am getting is SD 5.1 commercials.


I have not seen any HD commercials and I have been watching non-stop since Thursday on both my local (WISH-Indy) and D* March Madness.

Ken's M8B is saying that HD Constants will be available for:

Columbus 1 & 2
Chicago 2
Spokane 2

If I'm looking at the schedule correctly, that would mean the following games:

12:10 pm Tennessee #5 Virginia #4
2:40 pm Virginia Tech #5 Southern Ill. #4
5:00 pm Kentucky #8 Kansas #1
5:15 pm Southern Cal #5 Texas #4

TN/VA up in HD in Charlotte.

The idiots here in Evansville, IN at WEVV decided to leave the TN VA game with 2 minutes left to go to the Purdue game. How ignorant can you get???

From HD to SD, tight game to just started game, game with local interest (Bruce Pearl coached in Evansville at University of Southern Indiana) to game with less local interest. Not only that, I attempted to call in and they've apparently got their phone off the hook, all busy signal.

Plus, NCAA MMOD has *both* games marked as blackout so I can't see the game at all.

Doh, and now CBS has taken the "constant" feed of the Purdue game and gone to the TN VA game but since WEVV switched to the constant feed, the TN VA game is now in SD. These guys are complete incompetents!!

YY

Virginia/Tennessee in HD on KHOU (Houston) OTA and on WCBS (New York) via D*.

The idiots here in Evansville, IN at WEVV decided to leave the TN VA game with 2 minutes left to go to the Purdue game.

Same situation on WKMG here in Orlando, but thankfully, the operators in the control room are on the ball. When the constant UF feed switches to the UT/UVa game, they switch back to the HD feed. Of course, now that the game is over, we are back on SD constant feed.

The UT game was in HD on Comcast in Atlanta but now the VT vs So Ill game which is supposed to be in HD is 4x3 SD which looks horrible on my TV...Anyone getting this game in HD?

Ken's M8B is saying that HD Constants will be available for:

Columbus 1 & 2
Chicago 2
Spokane 2

If I'm looking at the schedule correctly, that would mean the following games:

12:10 pm Tennessee #5 Virginia #4
2:40 pm Virginia Tech #5 Southern Ill. #4
5:00 pm Kentucky #8 Kansas #1
5:15 pm Southern Cal #5 Texas #4

2:40 pm Virginia Tech #5 Southern Ill. #4

Better tell DirecTV (yes, I know this is the CBS thread).

Edit: And like magic, 2 minutes after I post, D* goes HD on this game.

I have not seen any HD commercials and I have been watching non-stop since Thursday on both my local (WISH-Indy) and D* March Madness.

The only HD commercials I have seen are for CBS programming. And they have been an inconsistent mix of SD and HD.

Purdue/Florida in HD in Detroit, look-ins at the half HD, also.

I really wish they wouldn't blackout the web feeds if they aren't able to track when the local affiliate switches away. Is there really a significant percentage that will stream it online on their computer instead of tuning into their CBS affiliate if it was available?

Now I have to watch a scoreboad instead of the game. Winthrop isn't even getting respect from their own affiliates. :(

WBTV in Charlotte just switched to the SD feed. Glad someone's in the control room.

WSPA (Spartanburg) still stuck on Florida.

WJHL (Johnson City, TN) and they keep switching between VT/SIU and Memphis/Nevada. Thats fine, but EVERY time they do it, the game drops from HD to SD and looks PATHETIC. We all know the games are being broadcast in HD, why the **** are they not in HD when they switch? I don't understand this!!!

Texas/USC in HD on KHOU (Houston) OTA

Kansas/Kentucky in HD on WCBS (New York) via D*

I really wish they wouldn't blackout the web feeds if they aren't able to track when the local affiliate switches away. Is there really a significant percentage that will stream it online on their computer instead of tuning into their CBS affiliate if it was available?
No kidding. In Memphis we are getting the (surprise) Memphis/Nevada game, but MMOD is blocking out the UK/KU game but I am getting the Memphis game online.

:confused:

I guess I can't complain too much. At least I was able to watch Winthrop lose. :cool:

KRQE, Albuquerque, continues to be worse than worthless. They are not showing KY-KU, and it's blacked out because KRQE is supposed to have it. I hate KRQE, and wish they did not exist. They are frequently a barrier to the CBS content I want to see.

Detroit's been getting all HD all day, now on Memphis/Nevada.

Detroit's been getting all HD all day, now on Memphis/Nevada.

Ditto on Chattanooga, at least all the time I've been watching, which is pretty much all day.

Ditto on Chattanooga, at least all the time I've been watching, which is pretty much all day.

Must be nice. Only game that was HD today in Atlanta was the first game of the day. Everything else either OTA or through Comcast was SD. :(

i'm a dish subscriber in s.f. bay area. watching games over the weekend became intolerable because of repeated white flashes on the screen 1-2 times a minute. was getting a good hd feed when flashing was not occurring, but the persistence of the flashing made watching the game impossible. did not observe any flashing during commercials or on other stations. anyone else see this?

Here, near Montgomery, AL the games all looked great. HD all of the time on the games I watched (and those were great games on Saturday).

SD4934-
Well, you were lucky. I watched at least part of every game on MMM, and, when there was HD, it was good. But HD was random and unpredictable. If Directv and CBS can't get this all straightened out for next year, I will just keep my money. I don't give a c*** what the local stations want, they are just dinosaurs in the satellite age. If D* can't make it work, somebody else will.
End of rant.

SD4934-
Well, you were lucky. I watched at least part of every game on MMM, and, when there was HD, it was good. But HD was random and unpredictable. If Directv and CBS can't get this all straightened out for next year, I will just keep my money. I don't give a c*** what the local stations want, they are just dinosaurs in the satellite age. If D* can't make it work, somebody else will.
End of rant.

I was watching OTA. I sometimes complain about my local stations but this time I have to give kudos to my local CBS station and to CBS.

Yes, I was watching CBS OTA, and the quality was fine. I was talking about the other simultaneous games. Mostly you could get them, but it was a coin flip whether HD was turned on.

NCAA TOURNAMENT

Keep it down to a roar, please!
Neil Best, Newsday
SPORTS WATCH


March 20, 2007

Yo, sports announcers of America: Listen carefully, because I'm only going to say this once.

I don't like to repeat myself, and I really, really don't like to shout.

STOP YELLING AT ME! NOW!!! I MEAN IT!!!!!

Yeah, Gus Johnson, that means you. (And you, too, Kevin Harlan, Mike Patrick, Gary Thorne, Dick Vitale and the many other bellowers whom duty calls on me to invite into my personal space.)

Give Johnson credit. He pulled off the TV feat of the week. Somehow he was able to call Sunday's Knicks-Raptors matinee game on MSG after spending all day Saturday screaming so loudly in Lexington, Ky., that CBS should have yanked away his microphone and just flung open the doors of Rupp Arena.

As often happens when Johnson is excited, it was not clear precisely what he said after Ohio State's Ron Lewis sank a tying three-pointer with two seconds left in regulation against Xavier. After a dozen listens, it might have been, "Makes it! Ooooh!"

It was reminiscent of his frothing at the mouth late in last year's UCLA-Gonzaga regional final and after the Knicks' David Lee tipped in a buzzer-beater in the second overtime against the Bobcats in December.

Johnson and Dan Bonner would have been better off conserving energy to discuss pertinent stuff such as whether Ohio State's Greg Oden should have been called for an intentional foul in the final seconds.

Or why Xavier's Sean Miller became the latest in a long line of college and pro coaches to commit hoops hara-kiri by refusing to foul an opponent with a three-point lead and the clock winding down. Sigh.

Anyway, you do have to admire Johnson's enthusiasm, even if his volume dial too often is turned to 11. And some viewers will miss him in the Sweet 16, where James Brown (whose play-by-play is a tad raw) has replaced him on the CBS depth chart.

Interestingly, Johnson is regarded as a play-by-play demigod in some corners of the blogosphere and is generally more popular among young fans than geezers. (Vitale, the original Old Yeller himself, is wildly popular on college campuses.)

No surprise when you think about it. Those of us with spouses and children hear enough yelling in real life. We don't need our sports TV friends piling on.

The late Curt Gowdy said he tried to call a game as if he were in the stands with a friend, poking him in the ribs when something interesting happened. He never said anything about howling into his ear.

So give me the silky professionalism of still-going-strong Verne Lundquist, 66, and another venerable old-school voice, Dick Enberg, 72, each on duty this weekend. The understated Jim Nantz, too.

So what if CBS has a Sweet 16 announcing lineup with demographics more suited to "60 Minutes" than to March Madness. Its volume dial tops out at 9, and for that I say a hearty, howling:

THANK YOU!

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