Hello Everyone,

According to Dazian's website, their Expo cloth has been discontinued. Their Expo cloth was (in my opinion) the best alternative to GOM price wise AND it looked pretty damn good. Would anybody have an idea what would be the next best alternative would be for the price? I have enough black expo cloth to do the front stage but not the rest of the room (bottom 1/2 of walls) but may need to start over due to the discontinued cloth.

I'm not seeing that on their site. Do you have a direct link for where it says that it's discoed?

Damn. Why do they have to discontinue the good stuff? I liked the Expo better than the GoM. The low price was a bonus. I never ordered the black for my proscenium.

Expo Cloth Clearance
Discontinued limited inventory available.
Available Colors: Peach, Special Honda Blue, Teal

http://www.dazian.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=417&group_id=176&cat_id=49

Call them up. It's possible a new updated version is coming out :confused:

I think they change the name to "exposure"

http://www.dazian.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=253&group_id=

Looks like the same colors.

I think they change the name to "exposure"

http://www.dazian.com/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=253&group_id=

Looks like the same colors.

I recently (last week) got a free swatch of the Exposure material mailed to me. I was not impressed. It has some awful design woven into the fabric. I had asked for the Expo sample, but I guess they discontinued it and sent me the Exposure fabric instead.

Have you looked into the Dazian Black Celtic cloth? It doesn't have the texture like the Expo (which I personally didn't like), it's more of an even, consistent weave. It's also available in 122" widths.

A couple of weeks back, Florida Blood Services had set up a blood letting area inside the atrium of the building where I work. To segregate it off, they had placed a frame around the area that was covered with cloth. That cloth was.... Expo Cloth. Once you've seen the texture, you can spot it pretty easily.

This stuff gets used as raw materials for industrial products. The idea of them discontinuing "black" expo cloth isn't likely. It seems to compete directly with GoM, and my GoM swatch has a copyright date older than me. I've seen Expo used elsewhere, and I'm sure there are plenty of cubicles adorned with it.

It looks like the clearance only applies if you want your theater to be peach, teal or special honda blue. I am sure they're just fine colors for Civic Type-Rs, fuzzy fruits and Miami Dolphins, but likely not theaters.


...that being said, the 122" wide black celtic cloth sounds most intriguing. I was thinking about using black Expo Cloth anyway, but the 48" widths were going to get somewhat, uhh interesting. Celtic cloth is fire rated as well and about the same cost once you wake up enough to realize that they're charging by the linear yard, not square yard ;)

I don't think it is discontinued. They had the same clearance cloth for sale when I bought my expo cloth about a month ago. It seems they may be out of stock though...or changed it exposure cloth like a previous poster has said.

The expo does have a weave to it and I was not digging it at first but after I got my panels made I liked the extra character it gave the cloth. Better than just being flat black all over the walls.

I can't believe they would use this stuff for a divider or privacy sheet. I can see right through it! (only when held up to a light)

A couple of weeks back, Florida Blood Services had set up a blood letting area inside the atrium of the building where I work. To segregate it off, they had placed a frame around the area that was covered with cloth. That cloth was.... Expo Cloth. Once you've seen the texture, you can spot it pretty easily.

This stuff gets used as raw materials for industrial products. The idea of them discontinuing "black" expo cloth isn't likely. It seems to compete directly with GoM, and my GoM swatch has a copyright date older than me. I've seen Expo used elsewhere, and I'm sure there are plenty of cubicles adorned with it.

It looks like the clearance only applies if you want your theater to be peach, teal or special honda blue. I am sure they're just fine colors for Civic Type-Rs, fuzzy fruits and Miami Dolphins, but likely not theaters.


...that being said, the 122" wide black celtic cloth sounds most intriguing. I was thinking about using black Expo Cloth anyway, but the 48" widths were going to get somewhat, uhh interesting. Celtic cloth is fire rated as well and about the same cost once you wake up enough to realize that they're charging by the linear yard, not square yard ;)

While on www.dazian.com if you search using the word expo, besides those discontinued colors, you would also see all of the main colors also. None of the main colors are on their site now.

I understand your interest in black celtic but I do not like the way it looks compared to the texture of the expo cloth regardless of price... price within reason of course which is the reason why I chose expo cloth in the first place.

I'm on the phone with Dazian right now. Customer Service tells me they're only discontinuing certain colors in Expo. They're also telling me that their recommended AT fabric is Janus. Got a sample on the way. :)

-drin

Really AT is only important if you are placing speakers behind it. The fire resistance is what is important.

I am placing the expo over linacoustic that is designed to absorb frequencies so if the fabric does as well that is fine.

Really AT is only important if you are placing speakers behind it.

I am, so that's important to me. Center goes behind Ruben's SMX and left and right behind AT fabric on a proscenium wall. Rears are also going behind an AT fabric-covered proscenium.

-drin

I'm on the phone with Dazian right now. Customer Service tells me they're only discontinuing certain colors in Expo. They're also telling me that their recommended AT fabric is Janus. Got a sample on the way. :)

-drin

Drin,

Let us know what you think of the Janus sample when you get it! Do you already have a sample of the Expo cloth?

Link to Janus (http://www.dazian.net/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=246&group_id=)

Drin,

Let us know what you think of the Janus sample when you get it! Do you already have a sample of the Expo cloth?

Link to Janus (http://www.dazian.net/cgi-bin/page.pl?action=show_style&style_id=246&group_id=)

I'm using Janus cloth for all my panels. The room isn't complete yet but it seems to be great stuff. Good colour selection, not too light weight but also not to heavy. Order the sample booklet from them, free and it has samples of PD Cloth and Janus in one book.

Speakers go behind my cloth too. Drin, thanks for the info about the Janus cloth.

I've got an old sample of black Expo and different GoM samples somewhere around here. I ordered a sample of Exposure and a sample of the Janus. I'll find the Expo and see if I can post a picture of all three.

I'm using Janus cloth for all my panels. The room isn't complete yet but it seems to be great stuff. Good colour selection, not too light weight but also not to heavy. Order the sample booklet from them, free and it has samples of PD Cloth and Janus in one book.

Would the Janus cloth be good to hide speakers behind? I'm thinking of using it in my 2 front columns which hide my front speakers.

Would the Janus cloth be good to hide speakers behind? I'm thinking of using it in my 2 front columns which hide my front speakers.

If it's acoustically transparent, FR701 rated (meaning it's fireproof), and you like the look of it, sure!

-drin

I have a sample of the Janus and one of the "Exposure" cloth. Does anyone have the Exposure and the regular Expo cloth? Or are they the same thing?
I want a really dark grey for my screen wall and first reflection point panels, but the Charcoal isn't really dark enough and I really don't like the texture.
The texture of the Janus is better, Its a lot more of a smooth fine weave. (If anyone wants pictures I can snap a few) Its also heavier, so I'm really not sure how AT it would be. But in any case, I want a dark grey color and they don't have any. The sample I have is Graphite (which I thought would be grey) but its a funny blue-green color.
Maybe I'll just go with plain black Janus or Celtic cloth.

FR701 rated (meaning it's fireproof)
-drin

Fire Retardant. Not Fire Proof

Fire Retardant. Not Fire Proof

I've tried to burn two test swatches now. No flames - it just shrivels.

No flame = no fire = fire proof. :D

It doesn't seem to ****** fire - it just doesn't burn. Shrivels nicely, though.

I've tried to burn two test swatches now. No flames - it just shrivels.

No flame = no fire = fire proof. :D

It doesn't seem to ****** fire - it just doesn't burn. Shrivels nicely, though.

Ha ha...I tried to burn my samples yesterday, and my wife just gave me "the look". I immidiately put my "arsonist" kit down and went back to cleaning the garage. :D

Anyhow. I have the Exposure sample and it looks and feels fairly transparent to sound. I don't have any test instrumets though, so I don't know how acoustically transparent it is or how well it can compare to GOM FR701 2100 or the old Dazian Expo. :confused:

I've tried to burn two test swatches now. No flames - it just shrivels.

No flame = no fire = fire proof. :D

It doesn't seem to ****** fire - it just doesn't burn. Shrivels nicely, though.

They usually test it using a direct flame at like 800 degrees or more. At a high heat, it should smolder.

I got my sample of Exposure cloth. When I have time this evening, I'll see if I can find my Expo sample. From what I recall of the Expo cloth, the Exposure cloth looks just like the old Expo cloth. The Janus cloth looks like a thicker speaker grill cloth. They have a little bit of shine to them but I don't think it should be a problem. I'll see if I can get a good picture once I find the Expo sample. Might be hard since all three are black.

dazian fabric will burn, from a match, and melt, and drip onto linoleum, and burn a hole in it.

back to the topic, for those with black expo cloth/exposure on walls, do you have any light reflecting off it. it looks like it has a slight sheen to it.

eric