View Full Version : 2007 NCAA Men's Basketball Championship in HDTV on CBS - Elite 8 Saturday!


Ken H
03-24-07, 12:08 PM
Great games in the Sweet 16, here's hoping for more of the same in the Elite 8!

Please place only related comments for Saturday's Elite 8 HD games in this topic.

It's very important to be specific with your info, including:
- Over-The-Air location, local station call letters
- Cableco
- DirecTV (channel number / Mega March Madness, MPEG4 locals, NYC/LA)
- Dish Network (channel number / MPEG4 locals or NYC/LA).

Thanks in advance for your participation at AVS.

South Regional Final
From the Alamodome in San Antonio TX
4:40pm
Ohio State vs. Memphis

West Regional Final
From the HP Pavilion in San Jose, CA
7:05pm
Kansas vs. UCLA

Iwanthd
03-24-07, 05:07 PM
OSU v Memphis via D* ch. 81 is a mess. Tons of motion blur and pixiliation.

steverobertson
03-24-07, 05:40 PM
I agree I have tried chanel 80 and my local HD Mpeg 4 and OTA on D* and I think it looks very soft. I think the lighting in the arena is not so good either which may have something to do with some of the PQ.

alaskahill
03-24-07, 07:34 PM
Same here on motion blur and pixelation for the OSU Memphis game. Has continued on the UCLA Kansas game. This is the worst I have ever seen it on D* channel 81.

Mike777
03-24-07, 07:37 PM
I thought it was bad enough that my local CBS station, KIRO in Seattle, compresses the heck out of the picture, causing obvious pixelizing. But I can't believe how terrible the camera work is by CBS. The main distant shot feels like I am sitting way up in the balcony. He is frequently zoomed out so far that I can see 15 to 20 rows up into the stands. It is unnerving that sometimes, even after a team settles into their half court offense, this idiot zooms back a little more instead of filling the frame with the action.

I surely wish ESPN, ABC or FOX were doing these games. This is terrrible.

steverobertson
03-24-07, 07:37 PM
Same here on motion blur and pixelation for the OSU Memphis game. Has continued on the UCLA Kansas game. This is the worst I have ever seen it on D* channel 81.


It really is very disapointing I think the lights in the stadiums are to bright on the floor which doesn't help but CBS also has issues.

Mike777
03-24-07, 07:39 PM
I think a lot of these problems are CBS. This same kind of poor camerawork makes watching NFL on CBS painful compared to FOX or ESPN.

luckytwn
03-24-07, 08:37 PM
It really is very disapointing I think the lights in the stadiums are to bright on the floor which doesn't help but CBS also has issues.

It's DirecTV. I was watching 81 and it was so bad, I couldn't believe it. I switched to the feed from Time Warner Cable here in LA and the broadcast looked 100X better. No pixelation and no motion problems.

The picture on DirecTV is embarrassing. I don't know if they are trying to force us to switch to the MPEG-4 (I love my Tivo) but I have never seen anything look this bad in terms of a HD broadcast.

bmwf1techie
03-24-07, 09:10 PM
I have to agree. Watching on D* in Los Angeles on 81 and PQ is awful. Tons of pixelation and motion blur with Kansas v UCLA. I switched to OTA and difference is like night and day. I normally have not been too upset with the whole HD Lite thing, but this is unacceptable PQ. Sticking to OTA.

steverobertson
03-24-07, 09:10 PM
I can say the Mpeg 4 looks horrible here in Boston.

mknoebel
03-24-07, 10:03 PM
I also noticed the nasty pixelation on channel 81 of *D during the UCLA/Kansas game. It was awful.

F4Boy
03-25-07, 11:21 AM
I think I can say with decent certainty, that yesterdays UCLA game was by far the worst looking live sporting event I've ever seen in HD. I can't believe how bad D*'s HD is! What a disgrace. I have Verison FIOS available to me...two D* HD tivo's make it hard for me to make a move now...and Sunday Ticket....I may have to make some changes.... :(

gq91355
03-25-07, 12:36 PM
I think I can say with decent certainty, that yesterdays UCLA game was by far the worst looking live sporting event I've ever seen in HD.
My sentiments exactly! Absolutely terrible!

carl066
03-25-07, 01:11 PM
In addition to the above comments, the feed of the Kansas - UCLA game on Star Choice from KIRO-DT had a wierd vertical offset problem. The data dashes at the top of the screen were visible and the bottom with the score and other useful information was chopped off. At first, I thought it was my setup (overscan), but I switched to the Eastern HD feed (from WWJ-DT Detroit), and it was fine. So were my other CBS HD feeds from L.A., S.F and Sacramento. So it was probably some timing problem at KIRO.

RSF_LA
03-25-07, 03:00 PM
I think I can say with decent certainty, that yesterdays UCLA game was by far the worst looking live sporting event I've ever seen in HD. I can't believe how bad D*'s HD is! What a disgrace. I have Verison FIOS available to me...two D* HD tivo's make it hard for me to make a move now...and Sunday Ticket....I may have to make some changes.... :(I watched the UCLA-Kansas game from KCBS-DT OTA and it looked very good to me. The problem appears to be D* as bmwf1techie stated above.

Zeppo
03-25-07, 05:26 PM
Here on TWCNYC, everything looks really good, for the most part. Sometimes, though, there are these weird moments of blur, like a shift of some kind, and it must have something to do with some graphic overlay going on or coming off, I can't figure it out.

But the sound mixing is, in a word, horrendous. Some venues have been fine, but this UNC-G-town game has a horrible mix! The music is all over the place, the horn is at like 1-million times the volume of anything else, they crank up the mic near the hoop to ungodly levels everytime there's a shot, so if it hits the rim it sounds like a bus crash, and the crowd sounds are oscillating in volume in waves. And then of course, everytime they go to a break, they switch from DD 5.1 to stereo, and the stereo signal is far louder than the DD 5.1 signal, which is exceedingly annoying and headache inducing.

Throughout the tournament, I've noticed game sound switching from DD 5.1 to stereo willy-nilly once in a while as well.

They've really got to get a handle on the sound issues at CBS. It's really pretty second rate in terms of the final package of the overall broadcast.