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kezug
03-24-07, 10:58 PM
I have seen many threads where a window is covered, almost permanantely by the new screen wall.

How is this done?

How do you deal with moisture?

How do you repair the window if it should break?

BIGmouthinDC
03-25-07, 07:20 PM
How is this done?

How do you deal with moisture?

How do you repair the window if it should break?


There are lots of methods, it would help if describe the window, post a pic and tell us your plans for the wall that would be in front of the window.

In my case I closed up two full-sized windows in a walkout basement. I installed blinds in the closed and down position, screwed strips of wood all around the window casing. Then mounted a piece of plywood, then some insulation. I removed the moulding and cut off the sill and put on a layer of drywall even with the surrounding drywall.

Before doing this, I removed the inside lock, and secured the window in the closed position with two stainless steel screws on the outside just in case I needed to gain access (maybe a dead mouse???)

Moisture has not been a problem and I've cycled through two completed years of seasons.

If it breaks, most windows are repaired from the outside. I also secured the screen so that I can get it off from the outside.


If it helps you sleep at night just drive down the street and look at all the houses with fake dormers on the roof. Those windows can only be accessed from the outside.

Stew4msu
03-25-07, 11:48 PM
I did a similar procedure. I removed the sill and nailed up a dark brown fabric to the window (from outside, it just looks like a dark room now). Then I framed it out with wood strips, filled it with insulation and drywalled over it even with the existing dryway surrounding it. I disconnected the alarm contacts to the window first and unlocked the windown (it's on the second floor facing the street, so I'm not too worried about someone breaking in and if they did, they'd have to then punch through the new drywall to gain entry). As was mentioned, any repairs could probably be done from the outside and after a bit over 2 years there's no moisture issues whatsoever.

There's probably some pics in my theater link somewhere.

YW84U
03-26-07, 12:24 AM
Same here - I had two windows to 'deal with' :rolleyes:

I cleaned the bejeezus out of them first, locked (ground level) then cut a piece of 3/4 plywood to fit within the frame. I then stapled some black material all the way around, and mounted wooden blocks to secure the plywood into place. As I was building another wall in front of them, I then added R-19 insulation to fill the cavities, and then Roxul mineral wool in between the new studs. Vapour barrier, Tuck Tape, then drywall overtop.

I've been through nearly an entire season, from scorching hot to snow and endless rain and humidity, and have yet to find any moisture problems. Fortunately, both windows do not receive hardly any direct sunlight, so the black material will last a long time before fading. No dirt or crunchy dead-type-things have accumulated on the inside sill.

I often wondered what the expression on someone's face would be if they punched the window, slid it open, and heaved headfirst into 3/4 plywood secured with framing......or if they did manage to break through it and then get tangled up in 110V AC compliments of my sconce lights! :eek:

scaesare
03-27-07, 11:47 AM
1) Remove window from basement wall.

2) Build matching forms.

3) Fill with concrete.

kezug
04-13-08, 01:21 PM
There are lots of methods, it would help if describe the window, post a pic and tell us your plans for the wall that would be in front of the window.



Wow, I usually reply in a more timely manner :rolleyes: Haha

This window is on my screen wall. Actually, it appears that most of the window will be covered by a column and the screen, with only a small portion that could actually be visible. But we all know that isnt going to work. I dont mind covering it permanently but if someone has suggestions for more of a temp covering for easy access (such as taking my screen down to get to should I need to), I am all for it.

I was thinking of closeing up the wall and covering the window. I also can leave it unlocked as it opens to the outside (a good thing if a mouse decides to crawl up and die inside the cavity. I was also thinking of sealing it from the outside as well, and just cut the sealant away should I need to pull it open.

NOTE: Please take notice of the slight gap between the roughin opening and the metal frame for the window. I left a gap as I was unsure of how to connect the wood to the metal

Anyway, here are some pics of my window.
http://home.comcast.net/~dougguzek/HT_window1.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~dougguzek/HT_window2.JPG

kezug
04-13-08, 08:43 PM
Bump. Really need some input on this here.

THose are my windows above...this is what I am thinking. Screw a frame around the outer perimeter of some hardibacker board that is mildew and mold resistant. Put that inside the cavity where the hardibacker board is at the metal frame, and my wooden frame around the hardibacker is at the wood framing for the drywall. I will then use some sealant that is rated for metal and wood and then screw it to my existing wall.

I will then open that window (it opens from the outside, as long as I unlock it) and put some sealant there as well.

Can someone offer some input to this idea or suggest something else?


Thanks.

chinadog
04-13-08, 08:50 PM
Here is what I did:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6607235&postcount=384

Bud

kezug
04-13-08, 10:07 PM
Here is what I did:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6607235&postcount=384

Bud

Bud, just when I was about to check out your thread and index, for what you did, you responded. Thanks!

kezug
04-14-08, 07:15 PM
Here is what I did:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6607235&postcount=384

Bud


Bud, do you get a lot of direct sun light on your window and will it generate a lot of heat within that cavity?

I did something similar, but I Painted a couple of light diffusers black, stuck that up against the window and put up the durock. This was up for about 1/2 an hour, before I studded up the wall and noticed a lot of warmth/heat being generated on the durock. I was shocked. I could put a bush in front of the window to block some sunlight but was wondering if you noticed any heat issues with your window as it is a lot bigger than mine.

chinadog
04-14-08, 08:23 PM
No, none really, but it's on the north side of the house, so it only get a little sunlight in the morning from an angle (at least in the summer). During the winter it may get a little more sunlight since the leaves are down.

Bud

kezug
04-15-08, 09:04 PM
Well, the diffuser panels that I had spray painted black had buckled and fell inside the window cavity and they are curled. This tells me that the durock cement board that I put in there, just cooks too much inside that cavity when sun hits the window.

Granted these are cheap basement windows, with no gas in the window panes, and that probably allows a lot of heat into the cavity. This window faces west and it was nearly 60 all day. Even yesterday with it only be 50 it was very hot.

So, out it will all come and I will have to go to plan B.

Plan B:
- Paint some OSB to go up against the window
- Insulate
- Drywall.



Setbacks are a B**&H but I want to avoid disaster down the road.

Any and all input is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.