Anyone here ever read DSL Prime? (http://www.dslprime.com/)

There's some pretty interesting information, speculation, and rumor in the March 19th edition.

We've all seen MS touting future IPTV plans on the 360, but behind the curtain might not be all smiles and champaign. A recently formed 9 member group called the Open IPTV Forum, mostly made up of telcos and led by AT&T, is attempting to standardize global IPTV deployment. Other members besides AT&T include Samsung and Sony.....Microsoft apparently was not invited. Peeking in on some of the event's, here's some of DSL Primes article.(AT&T) just publicly repudiated Alcatel’s most important product line, broadband TV based on Microsoft. Alcatel and Microsoft are currently left out of the AT&T led new “Open IPTV” consortium. Siemens and Ericsson are in. Open IPTV wants new standards within months and is not accepting new members for now, effectively excluding Alcatel, Microsoft, and also Cisco from the current process. Microsoft IPTV probably will be effectively excluded from contracts based on the new standard, based on my understanding of how the likely standards will clash with the design of the Microsoft middleware.

I have absolutely no confirmation, formal or informal, that AT&T’s Alcatel/Microsoft deployment plans have actually changed. Here is a couple articles relating to the topic.

ITwire (http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/10664/1085/)

ComputerWorld (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=networking_and_internet&articleId=9013758&taxonomyId=16)

It will be fascinating to see how IPTV will effect game consoles in the next few years. It could leave a much bigger mark on global sales than Blu-ray or HD-DVD IMO.

I dont see anything about the PS3 in that information

No, but it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination to think of how Sony might take advantage of this to sell PS3's.

Anyone here ever read DSL Prime? (http://www.dslprime.com/)

There's some pretty interesting information, speculation, and rumor in the March 19th edition.

We've all seen MS touting future IPTV plans on the 360, but behind the curtain might not be all smiles and champaign. A recently formed 9 member group called the Open IPTV Forum, mostly made up of telcos and led by AT&T, is attempting to standardize global IPTV deployment. Other members besides AT&T include Samsung and Sony.....Microsoft apparently was not invited. Peeking in on some of the event's, here's some of DSL Primes article.Here is a couple articles relating to the topic.

ITwire (http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/10664/1085/)

ComputerWorld (http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=networking_and_internet&articleId=9013758&taxonomyId=16)

It will be fascinating to see how IPTV will effect game consoles in the next few years. It could leave a much bigger mark on global sales than Blu-ray or HD-DVD IMO.

Ok a 50 GB bluray disc is about perfect for a 1080p movie encoded at Mpeg4 AVC or even Mpeg2....how are we going to get a 50 GB 1080p movie with uncompressed audio downloaded to our PS3 or Xbox 360 over a IPTv network in a reasonalble time? I think the biggest DSL pipe is around 6 megs, there are cable pipes around 20 megs but the avg is 10 megs on the roadrunner premium.

Even at 20 meg cable modem pipe it will be a long time to get a movie to download....but it can be done...but you gots to have the space to save it to..

Dvds and Bluray will be the best form of movie watching for a while, probably for years to come.

I'm not sure what M$ is talking about when they mention IPTV on the 360. I thought IPTV was more like Verizon's FIOS TV service. But in either case Sony is probably included in that group because they actually manufacture TVs

Ok a 50 GB bluray disc is about perfect for a 1080p movie encoded at Mpeg4 AVC or even Mpeg2....how are we going to get a 50 GB 1080p movie with uncompressed audio downloaded to our PS3 or Xbox 360 over a IPTv network in a reasonalble time? I think the biggest DSL pipe is around 6 megs, there are cable pipes around 20 megs but the avg is 10 megs on the roadrunner premium.

Even at 20 meg cable modem pipe it will be a long time to get a movie to download....but it can be done...but you gots to have the space to save it to..

Dvds and Bluray will be the best form of movie watching for a while, probably for years to come.

The absolute best quality isnt necessarily the most popular with both consumers and manufacters.

I'd imagine until bandwidth is able to produce 1080P quality.. HD Movies will be broadcast using compression in either 720P or 1080i as they have been doing for years on cable, satellite and OTA service.

The absolute best quality isnt necessarily the most popular with both consumers and manufacters.

I'd imagine until bandwidth is able to produce 1080P quality.. HD Movies will be broadcast using compression in either 720P or 1080i as they have been doing for years on cable, satellite and OTA service.


I hear you but do you want to go down to walmart and buy the movie 300 on bluray when it comes out this fall and play it back in 1080p with lossless pcm sound or wait for the download on iptv and just get regular dolby digital sound. What happens when your harddrive crashes, you will lose your IPTV movie..

But microsoft IPTv has promise...we need to know the pricing...

http://www.microsoft.com/tv/IPTVEdition.mspx

Also do not forget apple they just launched their Apple Tv...it will not do IPTv yet...but you know apple will do something in IPTV..

I am not saying IPTV is bad...it is nice...but there needs to be standards. Until everbody has a 20 MB pipe IPTV is not going to go anywhere. In 10 years yes...

but i just read the ADSL2+ will do 24mb..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITU_G.992.5

Has anybody checked out ATT's Uverse? It is IPTV, probably the best out there. They have been running it in San Antonio Texas for over a year...but it is not available to all parts of the city yet..and it just got HDTV capabilities. If ATT can get ADSL2+ going then their IPTv service will be much better...

IPTV providers will provide the bandwidth necessary for the service. You can be sure of that. It is good news as its another driving force for increasing bandwidth to all of our homes. IPTV is suppose to offer high quality HDTV as well as lower def channels. Once they work things out I see a future where most of us choose IPTV as the prefered method of receiving our television programs. Its simply more versatile and featured than most current cable/satellite setups and it will of course include the extra bandwidth for our internet connections.

The problem I see with cutting out MS, is that it'll be so hard to get "mainstream" when most computers out there, are running windows. Sure theres some game counsels and other gadgets that connect to the internet, but most people use a computer if they go online.
I think cable company's might have an advantage here with today's technology but greed will probably have us all waiting longer than technology.

I think there is some confusion about IPTV. It isn't about downloading and playing content. You subscribe to a service just like cable tv, it's just delivered via Internet Protocol. You would normally get a set-top box with the service. I'm not sure why all the excitment over using game consoles for IPTV except you eliminate one more thing hooked up to your tv. I guess it's good if you are using your console for all your other media but I don't think it is a system seller. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptv)