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mgr_stl
03-27-07, 10:52 PM
I have a Samsung 3251D HDTV (1080i and 780p), and was wondering if there will be a difference in quality between the "Full HD" and "HD" downloads of trailers on the Playstation Store. Am I better off selecting one over the other?

File size isn't really an issue as I have a 120GB HDD.

Thanks!

Hughmc
03-27-07, 11:20 PM
Yes. 1080p trailers, Full HD are better even if watching on a 720p display.

rahzel
03-28-07, 12:24 AM
can you even play 1080p trailers on 720p and/or 1080i sets?

anyway, i doubt there would be any noticeable difference. but if you want the best quality, go for the full HD 1080p i guess.

Hughmc
03-28-07, 02:01 AM
Yes, you can play 1080p trailers on 720p and/or 1080i displays. The displays just convert to whatever their native resolution is. I have a 50in. Sony GW3 LCD RPTV 788p native resolution and there is a very noticeable difference between 720p and 1080i or p content. 1080i HD content has always looked better on my display. I have downloaded both 720p and 1080p content to compare. If I were to put a % on it I would say 1080p looks 20%+ better than 720p.

rahzel
03-28-07, 05:20 AM
Yes, you can play 1080p trailers on 720p and/or 1080i displays. The displays just convert to whatever their native resolution is. I have a 50in. Sony GW3 LCD RPTV 788p native resolution and there is a very noticeable difference between 720p and 1080i or p content. 1080i HD content has always looked better on my display. I have downloaded both 720p and 1080p content to compare. If I were to put a % on it I would say 1080p looks 20%+ better than 720p.
i meant on his display. 1080p is not that noticeable with anything smaller than 50".

Hughmc
03-28-07, 05:39 AM
^^ That depends on the distance from the display, more than or not the display itself. If he is close to a 32in display then yes it will be noticeable. The principle that images get blown out and detail is more or less noticeable is based on the general rule that the bigger the display the farther away one usually is. I usually sit 10ft from my 50 in and can tell a significant difference. Sometimes I move up to 7 ft. and then the difference gets even more obvious.

Jetrii
03-28-07, 09:00 AM
Although your TV can accept 1080I signals, it doesn't have enough lines to draw it. In the end, you get a picture closer to 720 lines than 1080. Just experiment with both settings and see which one looks better. Odds are they will pretty much look identical though.

NoThru22
03-28-07, 09:46 AM
Yes. 1080p trailers, Full HD are better even if watching on a 720p display.
So you're trying to say that his display has a better scaler inside of it than whatever equipment they used in the studio to convert that 1080p down to 720p? I'd rethink that statement.

Jetrii
03-28-07, 09:49 AM
So you're trying to say that his display has a better scaler inside of it than whatever equipment they used in the studio to convert that 1080p down to 720p? I'd rethink that statement.

You are correct. In reality, you won't see a difference between a native 720P video and a 1080P video on a 720P set. Although, if you zoom in to the pixel level, the 720P video will be *better* than the scaled 1080P video.

HeadRusch
03-28-07, 10:12 AM
Its more like a 'slightly better picture'.

Example: Try watching 720p or 1080i/p sources on a 480p display. It will look better than straight 480p, even tho the display only has 480 lines to work with.

jkoch6599
03-28-07, 10:30 AM
So you're trying to say that his display has a better scaler inside of it than whatever equipment they used in the studio to convert that 1080p down to 720p? I'd rethink that statement.

His display still has to scale to 768p though, right?

Sunkist
03-28-07, 11:24 AM
Its more like a 'slightly better picture'.

Example: Try watching 720p or 1080i/p sources on a 480p display. It will look better than straight 480p, even tho the display only has 480 lines to work with.


Agreed, I used to have an EDTV and all 720p and 1080i content looked better than 480p the same content.

SirDrexl
03-28-07, 09:34 PM
I watched both versions of a trailer and couldn't tell a difference on my 720p projector. I wasn't really scrutinizing it though; I may have to try some more comparisons.

You can always try both and see.

IeraseU
03-28-07, 09:47 PM
If your TV is 720p/768p, I'd save the storage space and download the 720p version.

mgr_stl
03-28-07, 09:57 PM
Do you guys know if all of the downloads labeled "HD" (as opposed to "Full HD") are 720p as opposed to 1080i?

wsylvan
03-28-07, 10:42 PM
Yes, you can play 1080p trailers on 720p and/or 1080i displays. The displays just convert to whatever their native resolution is. I have a 50in. Sony GW3 LCD RPTV 788p native resolution and there is a very noticeable difference between 720p and 1080i or p content. 1080i HD content has always looked better on my display. I have downloaded both 720p and 1080p content to compare. If I were to put a % on it I would say 1080p looks 20%+ better than 720p.

Not all displays do. I think what he was getting at is will the 720p video display on 1080i since the games won't scale and certain displays aren't capable of upscaling it. The PS3 appears to be scaling the video as the 720p video looks great my 1080i TV - it looks as if the PS3 is capable of scaling the trailers.

Hughmc
03-28-07, 11:47 PM
I guess I should have said I can only speak for myself. I was relating how my display, native 788p, beyond a reasonable doubt displays 1080i and 1080p better than 720p. Whether it be sports or any FIOS cable that I have in 1080i vs. 720p, 1080p Windows Media clips vs. 720p through my ATI on my HTPC, PS3 trailers on my PS3 1080p vs 720p, all look better in 1080. I would still recommend downloading the 1080p content vs the 720p even on a 720p display.

chartwel
03-29-07, 12:02 AM
i meant on his display. 1080p is not that noticeable with anything smaller than 50".

im at 47 inches and i notice. not sure about 40 inches though.................