I'm thinking of returning GH3 and just waiting for Rock Band. I had planned on getting both but I don't see myself playing this after the next week or so...

What pics? I just find it hard to believe that a game is arriving in stores 19 days before it's released. Although, I'm not saying you're wrong or start making assumptions before I have some more facts.

Whoops, saw the pic in the other thread. I'd have to guess it's a demo unit. Plus, the walmart cash register wont sell it to you early.

A Best Buy sold Rock Band early:

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/11/01/lucky-shopper-gets-rock-band-early-shops-it-on-ebay/

No, a Best Buy sold their partially functional demo piece. It does not contain the full game, nor does it even contain full intruments. The bass peddle for the drums is missing, and the mic may be missing as well.

Does anyone know of a good guide to explain how the HELL you can transition from medium to hard? Hats off to you all who are playing above medium, I'm finding it near impossible and frustrating trying to move up/down the fret to get to orange. I even had to go back to GH2 and do my practicing there as I was 100% on Sweet Child so figured I knew that song better than others and was a good place to practice but it's SO DAMN HARD!!

Does anyone know of a good guide to explain how the HELL you can transition from medium to hard? Hats off to you all who are playing above medium, I'm finding it near impossible and frustrating trying to move up/down the fret to get to orange. I even had to go back to GH2 and do my practicing there as I was 100% on Sweet Child so figured I knew that song better than others and was a good place to practice but it's SO DAMN HARD!!

Practice, practice, practice. Muscle memory takes awhile to build up. The first couple of tiers don't have an incredible amount of orange notes. You pretty much stretch your pinky when needed. More you use it, the more you'll be comfy moving your entire hand when needed. Eventually, you just learn instinctually where your fingers are on the frets as you move through the different song sections.

The best thing that worked for me was switching my home position from index on green to index on Red. If you can change to this on the medium difficulty, it will prepare you much better for Hard difficulty. It's much easier to reach over one note with you index for green than it is you pinky for orange. Once you have that movement down, you'll start moving your whole hand all over the place, without losing where you are. Like the other poster said.....it just takes practice.

Battle Difficulty Level

There seems to be no incentive to choose a difficulty level above that chosen by your opponent in battle mode. If you are expert vs. easy: you have way more notes to play and hit before acquiring power-ups, and if it goes to sudden death the shorter path for your opponent will allow them to start the Death Drain on you while you are still completing the "star power phrase" to get your Death Drain power up.

Yes I am bitter because I just lost one of these:eek: but I will carry on.

Instead of the cat and mouse over which difficulty level the other is choosing, should this stay hidden? Also when you have the same level, you can just look over for "lefty" and "amp overload" (this is why it is a good idea to pair them with level up or double-notes so your opponent can't simply look at your note chart).

Anyway, unless I'm missing something, the incentive is to match the difficulty level chosen by your opponent.

Battle Difficulty Level

There seems to be no incentive to choose a difficulty level above that chosen by your opponent in battle mode. If you are expert vs. easy: you have way more notes to play and hit before acquiring power-ups, and if it goes to sudden death the shorter path for your opponent will allow them to start the Death Drain on you while you are still completing the "star power phrase" to get your Death Drain power up.

Yes I am bitter because I just lost one of these:eek: but I will carry on.

Instead of the cat and mouse over which difficulty level the other is choosing, should this stay hidden? Also when you have the same level, you can just look over for "lefty" and "amp overload" (this is why it is a good idea to pair them with level up or double-notes so your opponent can't simply look at your note chart).

Anyway, unless I'm missing something, the incentive is to match the difficulty level chosen by your opponent.


Hence why I only do co-op or Pro Face Off when online. If someone can beat me straight up or takes a better SP path, more power to them. But to lose to someone playing 2 or more difficulties down from me, just pisses me off.

No more on-line battle for me.

You can pass power-ups into the Sudden Death round as well.

I just took 3 with me into one. Yes, I feel dirty now.
It's just not right. ("but it's part of the game" ... as you are splattered from behind in the middle of a firefight.)

Yeah, the different difficulties in Battle Mode should NOT be allowed in ranked matches. It's just completely unfair for the person playing the higher difficulty. It encourages idiots to pick TTFAF on easy and get a guaranteed win.

I agree with others that said the game gets better the more you play it. Anyone trying to transition from medium to hard, I highly encourage you to stick with it. The game just gets so much better (and addictive) when you start to become proficient at the higher difficulty levels. For me, this game has the highest replay value of any game out there, so even though I could point out many issues, they're really irrelevant to my satisfaction of buying the game.

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Practice, practice, practice. Muscle memory takes awhile to build up. The first couple of tiers don't have an incredible amount of orange notes. You pretty much stretch your pinky when needed. More you use it, the more you'll be comfy moving your entire hand when needed. Eventually, you just learn instinctually where your fingers are on the frets as you move through the different song sections.

Definately, take your time moving through the ranks, and try to perfect the difficulty level that you are currently playing before you jump up a level. 5-Starring" every song on Medium is a great way to prepare for Hard.

You will also notice that the middle fret button has a reference-bump on it. I tell all of my friends who are learning to start with their middle finger on that position, rather than starting with your 3 fingers on the first 3 frets. Old habits die hard, and not having to slide your hands all over the neck of the guitar once you're on hard/expert is well worth extending your index finger to green and red while you perfect easy and medium...Thats just my 2 cents though...I'm sure other people have had success with different methods. See what works best, Good Luck!

Hence why I only do co-op or Pro Face Off when online. If someone can beat me straight up or takes a better SP path, more power to them. But to lose to someone playing 2 or more difficulties down from me, just pisses me off.

No more on-line battle for me.
I was never into the whole battle mode thing anyway. I only play battle mode with a friend off-line.....it can be pretty fun then, if you have a good time and don't take it serious.

battle's kinda fun.. No one really plays it though..it's hard to find matches. I have a feeling battle mode will be pretty much left behind in a few weeks and that pro face off will be king.

i create a battle, and someone joins me within seconds.

i really like battle mode, gh3 as a whole sucks though... just as i said before, harmonix = musicians, neversoft = tony hawk.

rock band IS guitar hero.

Practice, practice, practice. Muscle memory takes awhile to build up. The first couple of tiers don't have an incredible amount of orange notes. You pretty much stretch your pinky when needed. More you use it, the more you'll be comfy moving your entire hand when needed. Eventually, you just learn instinctually where your fingers are on the frets as you move through the different song sections.

Agree 100%. It definitely takes time, lots of time, before most can make this adjustment from Med to Hard. But like rdank said it WILL click one day (given enough practice). Its a cool feeling to be able to jam either in position 1-4 or 2-5 without having to think about it, especially when you remember just how confusing it was at one point. Stick with it and it will pay off.

i create a battle, and someone joins me within seconds.

i really like battle mode, gh3 as a whole sucks though... just as i said before, harmonix = musicians, neversoft = tony hawk.

rock band IS guitar hero.

I understand what you're saying, but just because Harmonix has musicians doesn't mean they'll have a better game. How exactly does GH3 as a whole suck? I guess you thought GH1 & 2 sucked too, cause from what I can tell it's basically the same game.

I played the Rock Band demo at Best Buy and I can say that it definitely won't be better than GH3 for the guitar part of the game.

I understand what you're saying, but just because Harmonix has musicians doesn't mean they'll have a better game. How exactly does GH3 as a whole suck? I guess you thought GH1 & 2 sucked too, cause from what I can tell it's basically the same game.

I played the Rock Band demo at Best Buy and I can say that it definitely won't be better than GH3 for the guitar part of the game.

I don't think it's terrible but it's obviously lacking a lot of polish and overall the song charts aren't what they should be. SO few of the songs in GH3 are songs worth playing more than once. The bonus songs are a joke and are too easy or have the fun choked out of them by unnecessary triple chords. HMX charts always walked the line between difficult and fun these songs rarely get it right. Neversoft admitted to hiring some of the more popular online custom song chart makers. WHich tells me they never really saw that line because I never played a custom chart I liked.
As for rock band it really comes together when playing with 3 other people.

Agreed. I'm not a guitarist, but I have a few guitars and know how to play a handful of the songs in each game and in the first 2 the note charts made musical sense. It was oversimplified but you were still moving your hands in chord progressions or following finger patterns as you might in a scale to hit the notes required. I haven't gotten any of that from what I've played so far in GH3 (the demo and a few random songs at Best Buy), it seems like they just randomly insert long runs up and down and a few inappropriate 3 note chords just to ramp up the difficulty without consideration for how the actual song might be played.

Agree 100%. It definitely takes time, lots of time, before most can make this adjustment from Med to Hard. But like rdank said it WILL click one day (given enough practice). Its a cool feeling to be able to jam either in position 1-4 or 2-5 without having to think about it, especially when you remember just how confusing it was at one point. Stick with it and it will pay off.


Seconded..while I'm still only playing GH2, I only started to play hard *exclusively* a few weeks ago, and only a little at a time...when I first started hard I thought I'd never be able to even complete a song. Now I've gotten 3 stars and even a couple 4 starts my first time through, its just having to train your hand to move a certain distance or a certain way via repetition and practice. Suddenly your hand just starts doing what you want it to do, and you become more aware of where your fingers are on the fretboard.

I was amazed when I got to the 3rd or 4th tier and was able to blow through most of Jessica (until the picking at the end kills me every time, gonna have to practice that one I think) my first time through...I'm like "holy crap its like I'm playing the song!" :D Then I'd fail :)

Agreed. I'm not a guitarist, but I have a few guitars and know how to play a handful of the songs in each game and in the first 2 the note charts made musical sense. It was oversimplified but you were still moving your hands in chord progressions or following finger patterns as you might in a scale to hit the notes required. I haven't gotten any of that from what I've played so far in GH3 (the demo and a few random songs at Best Buy), it seems like they just randomly insert long runs up and down and a few inappropriate 3 note chords just to ramp up the difficulty without consideration for how the actual song might be played.

I couldn't have put it better myself, some of the harder songs in gh2 were fun because it still flowed, in this game it just seems like the made songs hard by just randomly throwing stuff in there.... it seems like ever other song i said to myself, well i am never playing that song again...

Can anyone tell me why I cant play an online match? Ive tried all the options, it searches for sessions, then moves to "joining" then goes to "failed to join".

I have a gold membership if that matters.

the only thing that works for me is hosting the match...

the only thing that works for me is hosting the match...

Same here...that works every time.

My guess is that it's failing to connect to a host because someone else connected to them before you. If you keep having that problem, create your own. It's not all that different (except you get to pick an extra song instead of them) and you tend to get someone to join you within the first 20 seconds.

I linked up my code in the game with my account on guitarhero.com and something went wrong. It shows me as only played Expert songs (which I haven't attempted) and it shows me in Africa on the map viewer.

I looked during the last few pages but do not see much info on my concern. I was wondering if people were having some issues trying to activate star power. I have started on Easy, and I am tilting the guitar liek the GHII guitar but nothing happens. During the tutorial it seems to work. Is it possible the the guitar is not working, or is it a software/calibration issue. Thanks in advance.

Same here...that works every time.


Same here. Tried to connect for 30 min and no luck, started hosting and played 20 games without a hitch and got the "meet your maker" achievment.

Anyone know of a particular song that's good for practicing HO/PO on? I'm struggling with when to use them.

Anyone know of a particular song that's good for practicing HO/PO on? I'm struggling with when to use them.

Two off the top of my head on HARD difficulty:

The last 1/3 of the Muse song "Knights of Cydonia" for PO triplets, followed by a long HO riff.

And the main intro rif to the Slipknot song "Before I Forget" requires almost perfect HO/POs to get through it.

Good luck!

I couldn't have put it better myself, some of the harder songs in gh2 were fun because it still flowed, in this game it just seems like the made songs hard by just randomly throwing stuff in there.... it seems like ever other song i said to myself, well i am never playing that song again...

I don't really get this complaint. In general the songs in GH3 are a lot easier than the songs in GH2 on hard and expert. The 3 button chords also make a lot more sense to me than the 3 button chords in GH2 did. I suppose it's easy to not like GH3, but I don't really understand it. I'm enjoying it quite a bit more than 2 simply because HO/POs are way easier so I can sustain runs and actually pass some of the harder songs.

I don't really get this complaint. In general the songs in GH3 are a lot easier than the songs in GH2 on hard and expert. The 3 button chords also make a lot more sense to me than the 3 button chords in GH2 did. I suppose it's easy to not like GH3, but I don't really understand it. I'm enjoying it quite a bit more than 2 simply because HO/POs are way easier so I can sustain runs and actually pass some of the harder songs.

Like we said the songs are just not that fun. I picked the only songs I really dig when I played you last night. Yes the game is easier and that provides more incentive to play but IMO teh songs aren't as enjoyable.

I understand what you're saying, but just because Harmonix has musicians doesn't mean they'll have a better game.


Uhh, this game IS MUSIC, so it makes pretty good sense to me, the character models and textures dont matter much, what matters is the note charts, timing, controls, etc. there is no action, no physics to worry about, etc... the only thing that matters is the MUSIC.


How exactly does GH3 as a whole suck?

Have you played it?

Harmonix is made of musicians. They made Guitar Hero feel like playing real guitar. You would play a song, and if that song had two guitar parts, you would play either rhythm or lead guitar.

Now, these Tony Hawk guys took it over, and it's becoming obvious they don't play guitar or really care about music. The notes you play listlessly follow the dominant melody.

For a few seconds you're playing lead guitar, but then you're in rhythm, then back to lead, while the rhythm guitar continues in the background. Sometimes, it even drifts into the synth leads, so that you're not sitting there without playing anything.

People forget that the reason Neversoft made such great Tony Hawk games (before they got bloated) was because they were actual skaters.

That is the reason that Harmonix makes amazing music games; they're real musicians. I wouldn't trust Harmonix with a skate game, and I now realize Activision shouldn't have trusted Neversoft with a music game.


I guess you thought GH1 & 2 sucked too, cause from what I can tell it's basically the same game.


absolutely not, GH1 was groundbreaking and amazing, and GH2 was more of the same, only better... GH3 does have better ho/po's and i like the extra game modes, but the musical side (as i've said) sucks... and i'm not the only one who thinks so....


I played the Rock Band demo at Best Buy and I can say that it definitely won't be better than GH3 for the guitar part of the game.

i haven't played rock band, but i trust harmonix (the musicians, the creators) to do a great job with it, and i'd bet any sum of money it'll be a better game, if you care about the music, or have rhythm/ear to tell the difference.

somebody please tell me you agree... i'm not a musician and it's clear as day to me, this has to be annoying a lot of people, and dont get me wrong, i still enjoy the game, and i love the wireless gibson les paul, but i'm still really anticipating rock band.

Like we said the songs are just not that fun. I picked the only songs I really dig when I played you last night. Yes the game is easier and that provides more incentive to play but IMO teh songs aren't as enjoyable.

There are a few songs I find just not fun to play, but I enjoy most of them, and some of them I like much better than any song in GH2 (GH1 doesn't really count to me, as the covers were painful to listen to for the most part and I didn't really want to replay any of them as a result). I understand the complaints against it, I think, but I guess they just don't bother me.

I am looking forward to Rock Band quite a bit, but I won't have anybody locally to play it with. Is that going to have online coop career mode or is it gimped like GH3?

Gimped just like GH3. Though they won't deny that it will be added in later through patches.

somebody please tell me you agree... i'm not a musician and it's clear as day to me, this has to be annoying a lot of people, and dont get me wrong, i still enjoy the game, and i love the wireless gibson les paul, but i'm still really anticipating rock band.

Completely agree.

I agree with ya formula. I am a musician(electronic) and Music games that ignore th basics just don't go well with me. Like every loves beatmania but it's a poor representation of making electronic music. I know it's more about being incredibly accurate with 7 keys a POS turntable, but it just doesn't break down what I do and make it fun like amplitude and Frequency did.

The notes you play listlessly follow the dominant melody.

For a few seconds you're playing lead guitar, but then you're in rhythm, then back to lead, while the rhythm guitar continues in the background. Sometimes, it even drifts into the synth leads, so that you're not sitting there without playing anything.

somebody please tell me you agree... i'm not a musician and it's clear as day to me, this has to be annoying a lot of people, and dont get me wrong, i still enjoy the game, and i love the wireless gibson les paul, but i'm still really anticipating rock band.

Yep. You nailed it. I'm not a great player in the game or real life, but I have been with the series from the very beginning and playing the real thing off and on for years. Sometimes in some GH3 songs I just find myself saying "this doesn't make sense". There was something very intuitive about the other games, that's why they were so addictive.

It's not as bad as some make it out but not as good as I had hoped.

Harmonix is made of musicians. They made Guitar Hero feel like playing real guitar. You would play a song, and if that song had two guitar parts, you would play either rhythm or lead guitar.

Now, these Tony Hawk guys took it over, and it's becoming obvious they don't play guitar or really care about music. The notes you play listlessly follow the dominant melody.

You're kidding right? There's plenty of songs in GH2 that you play both Lead and Rhythm.........Free Bird is a prime example. It's funny how some people forget these things when they're on a rant.

hmm, i just failed a song at 100% progress. i can see 99% but how can i fail if i got 100%

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That's awesome! :D

I looked during the last few pages but do not see much info on my concern. I was wondering if people were having some issues trying to activate star power. I have started on Easy, and I am tilting the guitar liek the GHII guitar but nothing happens. During the tutorial it seems to work. Is it possible the the guitar is not working, or is it a software/calibration issue. Thanks in advance.

Yep I have the exact same issue. I tried playing GH II today to see if it was a game or hardware issue, and it happened in that game as well. As soon as Circuit City gets their second shipment of GH III in I'm going to take my guitar back and exchange it.

Red Octane hasn't even responded to this problem a week after the game was released.

Is the best method considered to extend your index finger to green and red while keeping your other 3 fingers fixed on the last 3 frets?

What other basic tips can you guys give me? I am just starting out and can hit ~95% on easy with the index finger sliding to green and red (just started playing this way last night. The first few nights I played with my first 3 fingers on the first 3 frets and can ace the easy songs this way)

I think more people shift their hand up and down the frets than just reach. I find that to be the most comfortable.

+1 to hand shift.

It takes practice to know when to shift the hand up or down, but when you figure out the right time for each song it becomes second nature -- the fingers automatically respond to the adjusted colors.

+1 to hand shift.

It takes practice to know when to shift the hand up or down, but when you figure out the right time for each song it becomes second nature -- the fingers automatically respond to the adjusted colors.

Make that +2 :) This question comes up often and for a good reason. I asked the same thing myself many months ago when GH 2 first came out. With enough practice you will instinctually know what position your hand is in and can play the same set of notes with different fingers accordingly - then during the songs you have a feel for what position is more comfortable and reachable for the current and upcoming notes.

Sometimes I still stretch depending on the selection but only because I know my hand position needs to change right back should I move it.

What becomes weird in a way is when you have this down pat and are jamming without thinking about what position you are in at the moment.

Interestingly there is another stage that comes after this one - that is the "slide" stage. This is the point where you begin to start sliding your hand on purpose to hit notes such as sliding your hand to go from index on red to green to hit a green then red note because you know you want to put your hand back into the 1-4 position. Its hard to explain but I'm sure others reading this know what I'm saying. This is something I never practiced but once I mastered the auto 1-4 vs. 2-5 the slide just seemed to come next. Have fun!

+3 to hand shifting. Sometimes I stretch (the intro to Sweet Child of Mine on Expert comes to mind), but I think shifting over does wonders.

Thanks guys. Hand shifting seems more natural to me as well what little I have played, and more fun. Think I will go with it;)

I just started playing Hard after giving up on it months ago.....in anticipation of Rock Band. One night it started to "click"...and I wound up 3-starring almost every song I tried my first time in, enough to progress in the game.

It comes down to training your hand how to move. Sliding is the key, I think, unless you have LONG fingers and can stretch. Me, I slide.....the only time sliding is hard is when you are playing a fast paced song that requires you to hit all 5 fret buttons, then you need to slide quickly and its easy to get lost if you aren't practiced in the hand movement.

I'm terrible at HARD, but Medium is now simply too easy (except for a few of the modern metal tunes with their awkward tempo changes), so Hard is where the fun/challenge lies. I dont mind sucking, each time you play your hand learns a little bit more.

The one thing about hard is practice..just keep playing..soon you'll know where to move your hand to hit the notes....then once you do that you'll learn to perfect your fingering on the song...then, you'll learn to push to 5 star them.

Now I'm stuck at Psychobilly Freakout (and for the record, if I go back and try to get through WOMAN again, I fail every time...so thats a song I'll need to just grind away at to hopefully someday 4 and then 5 star it).......I'm going to go back now and perfect some other songs, since the better you are at the easier songs..the better you get at the harder ones.

My problem now is strumming...I can't do those 16th note strums in some songs....I simply have to go and try to get the timing down wiht practice, practice, practice.

That's exactly where I am in the game - Medium is too easy and Hard is a challenge. Oh, and f*ck Woman on Hard. ;)

Is the best method considered to extend your index finger to green and red while keeping your other 3 fingers fixed on the last 3 frets?

What other basic tips can you guys give me? I am just starting out and can hit ~95% on easy with the index finger sliding to green and red (just started playing this way last night. The first few nights I played with my first 3 fingers on the first 3 frets and can ace the easy songs this way)

Some of the 3 finger chord switches can be trouble, especially if the finger layout does not stay the same. One thing that helped me to get through (Before I Forget) was to angle my index finger to cover both R and G.

I just started playing Hard after giving up on it months ago.....in anticipation of Rock Band. One night it started to "click"...and I wound up 3-starring almost every song I tried my first time in, enough to progress in the game.


HR, my progression was almost identical to yours. One day Hard just didn't seem as "hard". Woman took me a while but I finally got the timing down on the solo enough to pass it with SP help. Then I got the timing down on the main riff.(I strum it up and down) so now I can 5 star it.

My longest "stick" was on Psychobilly as well. Never really got a feel for that one. Just kept trying til I hit a lucky run and got thru :D I can play it ok now (4 star)

Now I'm stuck on the last tier of expert and dont know if I'll ever get back to it, now with GH3 here and RB on the horizon.

That's exactly where I am in the game - Medium is too easy and Hard is a challenge. Oh, and f*ck Woman on Hard. ;)

Get the chords down, I just beat on the strum bar downward...then save up starpower for the solos.

In reality, and I can't do this RELIABLY yet, you should be able to simply HO/PO the 4 note progressions that lead into the solo, you know the 4 beat-4 key part. You should be able to hit the strum bar once and then HO/PO the other 3 chords, whats hard is trying to hit every button AND the strum bar at the same time (unless you're, like, good..which I am not).

Save the starpower for the last bits of the solo and you should make it ok.

Now, F*(K Psychobilly Freakout on hard :D

Get the chords down, I just beat on the strum bar downward...then save up starpower for the solos.

In reality, and I can't do this RELIABLY yet, you should be able to simply HO/PO the 4 note progressions that lead into the solo, you know the 4 beat-4 key part. You should be able to hit the strum bar once and then HO/PO the other 3 chords, whats hard is trying to hit every button AND the strum bar at the same time (unless you're, like, good..which I am not).

Save the starpower for the last bits of the solo and you should make it ok.

Now, F*(K Psychobilly Freakout on hard :DI use the slide my middle finger method. I hold G with my pointer (and strum), then press R with my middle, then slide my middle finger to the Y, then to the B, and repeat. the key is to not get excited and try to go too fast. I can actually 5* it without using SP at all. finger slides work well for me on Woman, because it's not that fast of a song (scolling wise).

now, I agree PBF is still tough as heck. I still can't 5* it:(

Is it just me or does Star Power seem MUCH less effective in bailing you out in GH 3 than it is in GH 2? I could be on blinking red about to get booed off, then activate star power and just hitting some notes usually get back to solid yellow or even green. With GH 3 the meter seems to rise much less in that same situation... ? For reference I am playing on Hard.

I use the slide my middle finger method. I hold G with my pointer (and strum), then press R with my middle, then slide my middle finger to the Y, then to the B, and repeat. the key is to not get excited and try to go too fast. I can actually 5* it without using SP at all. finger slides work well for me on Woman, because it's not that fast of a song (scolling wise).

now, I agree PBF is still tough as heck. I still can't 5* it:(

That is EXACTLY my problem, I get excited and try to move my fingers too fast....good that you brought that up. I need to study PBF just to get past it to get to the other songs, then I can go back and start to really learn how to play those songs I want to play first (Cant You Hear Me Knockin, 5 star....the Buttholes tune..5 star, etc, etc) :)

Is it just me or does Star Power seem MUCH less effective in bailing you out in GH 3 than it is in GH 2? I could be on blinking red about to get booed off, then activate star power and just hitting some notes usually get back to solid yellow or even green. With GH 3 the meter seems to rise much less in that same situation... ? For reference I am playing on Hard.I only noticed this on Rainin Blood (Hard). I failed the heck out of that song 10x in a row. SP should have easily saved me (like it did on GHII) during that schitzo part towards the beginning.

I think you're right about that.

That is EXACTLY my problem, I get excited and try to move my fingers too fast....good that you brought that up. I need to study PBF just to get past it to get to the other songs, then I can go back and start to really learn how to play those songs I want to play first (Cant You Hear Me Knockin, 5 star....the Buttholes tune..5 star, etc, etc) :)yep, for me it's strumming too much. every time you strum (incorrectly) too fast during a section, your meter drops like crazy. sometimes it's almost better to just let the notes go by without strumming at all, than to try and strum them. this is where HO/POs come in. if you can learn to strum, HO/PO as many notes as you can, then strum again when you notice that you missed a HO/PO, your meter won't drop as fast.

easier said than done though:D

Foo Fighters and Velvet Revolver packs up on XBL for 500 points each.

Also does anyone know when the supposed quick-play co-op update will be coming out?

Foo Fighters and Velvet Revolver packs up on XBL for 500 points each.

Also does anyone know when the supposed quick-play co-op update will be coming out?

Welp, it's the same old crap so I wont be buying any of them. :(

Foo Fighters and Velvet Revolver packs up on XBL for 500 points each.

Also does anyone know when the supposed quick-play co-op update will be coming out?

I think the update is already out. Are you connected to XBL when you run the game? It should update. If you're patched you'll have a Coop option under Multiplayer. Stranglely it doesn't seem to save your high scores like the single player coop does, or am I forgetting? (Been a few days since I played coop)

Foo Fighters and Velvet Revolver packs up on XBL for 500 points each.

Also does anyone know when the supposed quick-play co-op update will be coming out?

This is GHIII only, yes? GH II DLC is effectively dead, now?

I think the update is already out. Are you connected to XBL when you run the game? It should update. If you're patched you'll have a Coop option under Multiplayer. Stranglely it doesn't seem to save your high scores like the single player coop does, or am I forgetting? (Been a few days since I played coop)


I've never gotten the thing to come up when I start the game saying it's updating, and then restarts the game (except the first time I played the game the Sunday it came out)... I guess I'll look again...

Does the New Les Paul wireless guitar accept the Xbox 360 battery pack?

Thanks

DeathDealerB

Does the New Les Paul wireless guitar accept the Xbox 360 battery pack?

Thanks

DeathDealerB

Nope. :(

Nope. :(

Bummer

Thanks for the info. Time to get a few new sets of rechargeables.

DDB

Devil and the other 2 battles will be released later this month for free. Sounds good to me.

Devil and the other 2 battles will be released later this month for free. Sounds good to me.

As single player songs? I can't wait for that if that's the case. I really like all 3.

Devil and the other 2 battles will be released later this month for free. Sounds good to me.

well that quells my anger. though I still might sell Gh3 this weekend.

Yes, for play outside of career.

Devil and the other 2 battles will be released later this month for free. Sounds good to me.

First thing Red Octane has done right with DLC. ;)

Devil and the other 2 battles will be released later this month for free. Sounds good to me.

Linky?

Has anyone tried the DLC made available today? Yes, I know it is pricey for what you get, so please dont just respond with 'no way dude too expensive!' :p;):D

I haven't yet, but you bet your bottom Marketplace Point I'm buying it as soon as I get home. This Is A Call is such a great tune.

Has anyone tried the DLC made available today? Yes, I know it is pricey for what you get, so please dont just respond with 'no way dude too expensive!' :p;):D

Not at those prices. ;)

Hehe.

I bought both packs and failed most of the songs on Hard. Maybe I was only half awake because it was 6am. I have every GH2 and GH3 dlc song and have always been satisfied.

I may need second job if I'm going to try to buy every Rock Band dlc song... heh

fyi rock band dlc annoucement: "Packs will always be available as packs or as single downloads in case you only want one of the songs."

DLC MEGATON!!!

Police pack: Roxanne, Synchronicty II, Cant stand losing you, all masters
Queens of the stone age pack: 3s and 7s, Sick Sick Sick, Little Sister, all masters
Metallica pack: A three or six song pack, no songs announced yet
Black Sabbath pack: N.I.B, Sweet Leaf, War Pigs, all covers
David Bowie: Moonage Dreak, Heroes, Queen Bitch
Punk Pack: Ever fallen in love, by Buzzcocks, cover
I fought the law, by clash
Rcokaway Beach by Ramones

Single Songs:

Fortunate Son-Credence Clearwater Revival
Juke Box Hero- Foreigner
My Sharona- The Knack
Cherry Bomb- The Runaways
Bang a Gong- T-Rex
Joker and the Thief- Wolfmother
Brass in a Pocket- Pretenders
My Irong Lung- Radiohead
Buddy Holly- Weezer

Unfortunately the price is consistent with the GHII DLC. I think the price is high but I seem to be resigned that the price isn't going to go down.

I haven't bought any DLC yet because there really haven't been any packs I've though have been worth it, but this FF pack has me on the fence. I may not buy any DLC until I see how much the Rock Band DLC is and then whoever has the best price/selection for the price will get my hard-earned $$$.

ileff -

There's a whole thread for Rock Band talk.

The price may bea bit high, but to be honest it's not too bad when you think of all the crap they have to get:
Song licensing - I've heard licensing is similar to iTunes, so probably close to $1 per song
MS - They take a (reported) 20-30% cut of the sale price
Neversoft - They do have to work to create charts (guitar and bass/rhythm) and get everything in there for download. I figure they only make $.50 per pack or so.

Yeah, who wouldn't want to pay less, but to be honest it's probably MS that's driving the price so high.

The price may bea bit high, but to be honest it's not too bad when you think of all the crap they have to get:
Song licensing - I've heard licensing is similar to iTunes, so probably close to $1 per song
MS - They take a (reported) 20-30% cut of the sale price
Neversoft - They do have to work to create charts (guitar and bass/rhythm) and get everything in there for download. I figure they only make $.50 per pack or so.

Yeah, who wouldn't want to pay less, but to be honest it's probably MS that's driving the price so high.

Fine and dandy, but it's still too much for me to pay so far. I got what, 70 tracks on the disc for $60 bucks...

At $1 a track I would purchase every single one. As it stands, Roxanne for Rock Band is the only DLC track I will currently purchase regardless of price.

About how much do the new packs cost? I'm new to XBL.

About how much do the new packs cost? I'm new to XBL.

500 MSPs

500 MSPs

which is $6.25 at the $20 for 1600pts rate.

I watched the videos they had posted of both packs and decided I would buy the Velvet Revolver pack. The Foo Fighters songs looked just like Monkey Wrench from GH2 with repetitious chords and chord changes which I didn't care for. I am pleasantly surprised by the VR pack. Behind the GH2 metal pack, this is my second favorite of all the dlc. The songs are challenging and fun, enough said.

Black Sabbath pack? N.I.B. & Sweet leaf !! Sign me up for that one!!!

I'm gonna pick up the VR pack tonight.
Also, somehow by some miracle I was able to beat Lou on my first try on Medium...This is great for me because I am by no means any good at this game. I would consider my self a very avg Medium player and I cant play Hard because I am too stubborn to learn how to slide to get to the Orange fret to pass any songs! The only song I can pass is Sunshine of your love (on quickplay) because it had a lot of notes in either G,R,Y,B or R,Y,B,O sequence. When it is a mixture of them all my inability to slide screws me up immediately. Cheers!

Does anybody know if the wireless Les Paul guitar for the 360 is available to buy separately as a second controller?

Thanks

DeathDealerB

Does anybody know if the wireless Les Paul guitar for the 360 is available to buy separately as a second controller?

Thanks

DeathDealerB

I don't think so YET. At least, not that I have seen anywhere. But I'm sure they will eventually package it separately.

I'm been enjoying GH 3 for a while now and wondering what the fuss was about regarding the note layouts and seemingly random notes etc folks here have been talking about.

Well last night I finally saw what some here have been talking about. I'm a solid player on Hard and enjoyed most of the first 6 set lists. However when I got to set list 7 things went south in a hurray...

Not only did the difficulty crank up disproportionately from earlier sets, but the note arrangements seemed designed to mess you up, rather than being designed to represent the music but just more challenging. I went from having failed no songs from the first 6 set lists to failing every song in the 7th set list early on.

Maybe I was just frustrated because I couldn't get very far in these songs. But they just didn't seem much fun to play anyway.

I decided to go back to GH 2 for a while since I haven't played any since GH 3 came out. I really enjoyed GH 2. With hindsight I think it has better tracks as far as my taste goes. Likewise Rock Band looks like it will have music that is more up my alley.

At this point I think I'm going to just use the cheat codes to unlock all the songs in GH 3, and just play the ones I enjoy without worrying about career mode. I can already tell that getting past the 7th and 8th set list is going to be way more work than I'm willing to put into it...

I don't think so YET. At least, not that I have seen anywhere. But I'm sure they will eventually package it separately.

Thanks. I hope they have it available for Christmas. We got our son the 360 GHIII bundle, and it's killing me, but it is sitting in the closet until Xmas. :(

DeathDealerB

Not only did the difficulty crank up disproportionately from earlier sets, but the note arrangements seemed designed to mess you up, rather than being designed to represent the music but just more challenging. I went from having failed no songs from the first 6 set lists to failing every song in the 7th set list early on.



I'm with you on this. I got through the last 2 tiers pretty quickly, but I agree they are NOT fun to play. Except for Cult of Personality and Cliffs of Dover. CoD is in my top 3 most fun songs to play in all the GH games. And CoP has a pretty cool solo. SO don't overlook those 2. I finally beat Lou after about 9000 tries so I could play Through the Fire and Flames. Still haven't gotten past the intro. :mad:

Not only did the difficulty crank up disproportionately from earlier sets, but the note arrangements seemed designed to mess you up, rather than being designed to represent the music but just more challenging. I went from having failed no songs from the first 6 set lists to failing every song in the 7th set list early on.

This isn't really any different than GH2, imo. I think The Trooper and YYZ are the only songs I like out of the last two tiers of GH2. Carry Me Home was decent as well. I like Free Bird and Misirlou as songs, but they were not fun to play in game.

Tier 7 absolutely sucks. I realize that the last tiers in GH2 weren't everyone's cup of tea but at least they mixed up the genres and decades enough so there should have been at least 1 or 2 songs someone wants to play. I'm just glad I passed the disturbed song on my first try so I never have to play it again.

"Does anybody know if the wireless Les Paul guitar for the 360 is available to buy separately as a second controller?"

Take your copy of GH3 into Gamestop and trade it in towards the bundle. They give you $30 for the game by itself, so you end up paying $70 for a second guitar (since you get the game again). That should be about what the guitar will cost on it's own, and that is how I got a second Les Paul.

Wow, very smart thinking darklordjames!! I might have to use this tactic myself.

On another note, I've got what appears to be a significant problem...
I've been playing Guitar Hero III since release day, enjoying it, etc. Today I decided to throw Guitar Hero II back in to have some fun and... it freezes EVERY TIME i try to load it. As soon as it hits the "Loading..." screen, everything completely locks up. My controller is unresponsive (holding down the jewel button doesn't bring up the dashboard or turn off controller/system blades), absolutely nothing happens. I've tried restarting the system many times, taken the disc out, swapped discs, nothing works and it freezes like clockwork every time it goes to the loading screen. Now my Xbox itself has never had a single problem and works flawlessly with any other disc I pop in there (tried a couple different ones just to see). Guitar Hero III, no problem. Only GHII freezes. And I can't for the life of me figure out why. When I got III home, i put II neatly back into its case and it's sat on the shelf untouched until today. And I'd been playing II right up until that day, multiple times a day, and NEVER had this problem once. All of this leads me to believe that somehow GHIII is responsible!! (I know, maybe it's silly, but is there some way that maybe the GHIII save file has corrupted the GHII save file???) And more importantly, how can I fix this? Should I go into memory management and erase my GHII save file and try it again? But then I'd have to start the game over from scratch!! (I had it entirely beaten on every difficulty level, everything unlocked, and only had 3 songs left to 5 star on Hard.) Also, I'd downloaded every add-on pack that was available. How would these be effected by the deletion of the GHII save file? What should i do?? Ahhhhhggg

In case you haven't seen this yet:

http://southpark.comedycentral.com/?sicontent=0&sicreative=1085555740&siclientid=1838&sitrackingid=14385278&gclid=CMSlzsf10I8CFTyKOAod80Ri9Q

"How would these be effected by the deletion of the GHII save file?"

The DLC is tied to your Live account, so even if you delete it, you can just redownload for free. Since you are going to Gamestop anyway to get a second guitar, grab a used copy of GH2 as well to see if it is just your disc for some strange reason. Used games are returnable for full refund within 7 days. It could also be an early sign that your DVD drive is dying. :(

To bobbyg1983: I had the same thing happen to me once with my GH2 save. It was before I ever played GH3, but the symptoms were identical to your's. I had to delete my save file from the dashboard before I could get back into the game. One way to determine if it is your save that has gone corrupt is to disconnect your hard drive and then try to load into the game. If it doesn't hang at the loading screen without the hard drive then it is the save file; if it hangs, you'll probably have to bite the bullet and delete the save.

(If anyone else has any advice to avoid deleting his save, jump right in. I don't want to be responsible for erasing his hard work. :) )

A bit off topic, but it's been confirmed the Les Paul will work with the PC version of the game.

sold my GH3 disk today. Oh well RB in a week in a half.

Im thinking about trading in my GH II and GH III games towards the purchase of RB.

Is there any reason I should keep any of the 3 guitars (2 xplorer 1 Les Paul) ? Will either of them work with RB?

keep the Les Paul as your Rock Band bass.

Does anybody know if the wireless Les Paul guitar for the 360 is available to buy separately as a second controller?


just do what i did: buy 2 bundles, take the extra sealed game and sell it with your old wired guitars for $80 !VIOLA! you have another wireless guitar that you only paid $20 for.

i bet you when they release the single guitars, they'll be a lot more than $20.

just do what i did: buy 2 bundles, take the extra sealed game and sell it with your old wired guitars for $80...
If the OP has a Sam's Club or two nearby, that $80 suggested asking price may be a bit too high since Sam's is currently selling the GH3 and wired guitar bundle for $78...unless you were implying that the $80 price included two wired guitars--in which case, nevermind what I just said. ;)

"Does anybody know if the wireless Les Paul guitar for the 360 is available to buy separately as a second controller?"

Take your copy of GH3 into Gamestop and trade it in towards the bundle. They give you $30 for the game by itself, so you end up paying $70 for a second guitar (since you get the game again). That should be about what the guitar will cost on it's own, and that is how I got a second Les Paul.
Dang--it's too late now, but that would have been a great idea if it had been done no later than yesterday (11/11)...Gamestop had a promo going (expired 11/11) where you'd get an extra $10 in trade credits for every two PS3/360/Wii games traded in--if you had another PS3/360/Wii games to get rid of, you could have gotten $35 for the GH3 trade-in ($30 + $5 bonus) plus whatever trade-in value + $5 bonus for your second game...and if you had even more qualifying games to get rid of, you would receive another $5 per game on top of each game's trade-in value. Combine that w/ your suggestion and that would have been a very sweet way to purchase a second Les Paul... :D

unless you were implying that the $80 price included two wired guitars

yep, that was guitarS, plural. both of 'em.

i sold the 2 guitars and the game to a friend, who had gotten hooked on playing GH2 at my house, and didnt care about wireless.

i wasnt going to use them again, after playing the wireless, i knew i was never going back. heh heh

"where you'd get an extra $10"

That is really what we did. Got rid of Raving Rabbids Wii for $15 and GH3 for $35. So we spent $50 on the second controller and lost a game we were never going to play again.

Played several games online tonight. Didn't have much fun. It once set for over five minutes just saying "Joining Game" until I just exited completely out of the game. Finally did get some games going and I've been playing face-offs on Medium. Well, about every player I played against would get either 99% or 100% on every song. They obviously needed to move up to hard, but just wanted to pad their record I guess. Oh, and my guitarhero.com account is still linked to a different person.

Boss battle track pack is up. It's pretty good. It's also free, which is awesome (and the only way to do this, as we all know the songs and note charts are already on the disc). The Tom Morello track has a section about 90% through on hard that is ridiculous. I didn't try any of them on expert yet. It looks like they just took the two sides and stuck them together. They're relatively fun. I really like the songs, but don't like playing them solo as much as I though I would.

Activision, Neversoft and Bungie have announced that tomorrow (Thanksgiving), Guitar Hero III players will be to download the Halo theme (MJOLNIR Mix) through Xbox Live Marketplace for free. This special version of the Halo theme was created for Halo 2 and featured the guitars of Steve Vai.

>>download the Halo theme (MJOLNIR Mix)

who needs rock band??? j/k both are awesome

Oh wow, awesome news... EXCEPT I'M HOME AT MY PARENT'S HOUSE OVER THANKSGIVING!! Does anyone know if this download will be available for an extended period, or is this a one day only special download?? If so I'm sooo sad!!

Anyone else play the Halo theme yet?

It was more difficult than I thought. But it's totally rock and roll. Best DLC ever(since is was Free).

Oh wow, awesome news... EXCEPT I'M HOME AT MY PARENT'S HOUSE OVER THANKSGIVING!! Does anyone know if this download will be available for an extended period, or is this a one day only special download?? If so I'm sooo sad!!

I hope not, or else I'm gonna miss out too. I knew I should have brought my 360 with me...

Playing the Halo theme on Easy, I found that it has some pretty good parts for practicing HO/PO. As I am still in the Easy to Medium transition, it's helpful. :)

Anyone else play the Halo theme yet?

It was more difficult than I thought. But it's totally rock and roll. Best DLC ever(since is was Free).

It was good, but I think the boss pack was the best DLC. It was also free, had 3 songs, and they all rock. They were also all very hard, but that's ok. The Halo theme definitely had more going on than I thought it would. It says it's from 2006, so it must've been around, but I'd never heard this thing before. Steve Vai is definitely awesome for shredding on a guitar, and it shows here.

I like the boss pack as well. Although Devil Went Down to Georgia on Expert pisses me off. I don't know if I'm overpicking, or just can't pick fast enough, but I can't get past 4% on the dang thing.

Those really long streams of single notes from Lou's part just destroy me. I can be perfect heading into them, and then insta-fail. I checked with hyperspeed on and the notes are so fast that even on hyperspeed 4 the damn things are still touching each other.

My wrist can't move that fast. :(

If anyone is stuck getting from Medium to Hard on GH go pick up RB and jump straight into hard as it's like med/hard in GH. I was struggling with hard on GH for a long time but after only playing the first 2 tiers in RB on hard I went back to GH and played the tracks I was failing and completed them in the 85-95% first time around.

I'm having problems getting the wireless guitar to connect to the 360. The lights the guitars guide button spin around and then all four quadrants on the button just keep blinking after attempting to sync. I even pulled the console out of the media center and gave that a try. My wireless controller is working fine. I'm thinking the guitar is faulty. Any suggestions or thoughts?

I'm having problems getting the wireless guitar to connect to the 360. The lights the guitars guide button spin around and then all four quadrants on the button just keep blinking after attempting to sync. I even pulled the console out of the media center and gave that a try. My wireless controller is working fine. I'm thinking the guitar is faulty. Any suggestions or thoughts?

You powering up the guitar then hitting the sync buttons on the guitar and console?

yes, that's what I've done. When I power up the guitar it will also power up the console but I cannot get them to sync.

yes, that's what I've done. When I power up the guitar it will also power up the console but I cannot get them to sync.

It is not just turning on the console. You have to hit they little sync button on the front of the Xbox console and the one on the guitar at the same time. Is this what you are doing?

ok, I finally figured it out. I had to load the disk first and run some update. It did not mention this in the instructions. Thanks for your help a

There is a new GHII dlc pack up:

"State of Massachusetts" by Dropkick Murphys http://youtube.com/watch?v=-V_ZUGBM3NQ
"You Should Be Ashamed of Myself" by The Bled http://youtube.com/watch?v=YKp1AzelYj8
"Memories of the Grove" by Maylene & The Sons of Disaster. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fdvo_ECWA7U

I'm a little surprised the want to charge money for what are essentially indie bands...you'd think they could have thrown owners a bone for all the DLC content that never appeared, that they promised :P

Yea, I've never heard of those guys.

I'm still waiting on the GH treatment for one of my favorite bands, FU Manchu. Their most recent CD has a sticker that says "contains Hung Out To Dry, as heard in Guitar Hero 2"... yet that song isn't in any Guitar Hero game. :(

Hmmm....Metallica pack for Rock Band or 3 bands I've never heard of...what a tough choice I have to make this weekend...:rolleyes:

Yea, I've never heard of those guys.

I'm still waiting on the GH treatment for one of my favorite bands, FU Manchu. Their most recent CD has a sticker that says "contains Hung Out To Dry, as heard in Guitar Hero 2"... yet that song isn't in any Guitar Hero game. :(

dropkick murphys did "sailing up to boston" from the departed soundtrack. so you may have heard them but just not known who they are.

dropkick murphys did "sailing up to boston" from the departed soundtrack. so you may have heard them but just not known who they are.

They also had an amazingly annoying song called "Tessie" in MVP Baseball 2005 and the movie Fever Pitch, and is now some sort of theme song for the Red Sox.

ok, I know the band you are talking about now, and I remember that they have a really cool sound! :cool: I wish that song was available separately.

Thought I would post this for you guys in case you didn't see it (they really sounded impressed with this game.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/11/30/guitar.hero.3/index.html

The good -- and bad -- news for "Guitar Hero" fans is that in the latest game in the franchise, RedOctane didn't mess much with the formula that placed its predecessors among the hottest game sensations of our time.

"Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock" will hook you from the moment you strum your first chord.

So if you were looking for a fresh new experience in this sequel, you might be disappointed. But if you can look past that, you will find "Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock" (www.guitarhero.com) a fun, challenging and (despite some potentially offensive language) great way for the whole family to rock out in front of the television.

Better than strumming a tennis racket in front of the mirror, "Guitar Hero" games include a guitar-shaped controller that plugs into the video game console. You must then correctly press the right colored buttons on the guitar's neck (and strum at the same time) to match the onscreen instructions. Play well and the familiar rock songs sound like they should, and the virtual crowd cheers you on, but if you press incorrect notes, some sour "twangs" are heard, and the crowd begins to quiet down or even boo you offstage.

"Guitar Hero III" is the most ambitious of the franchise, with attractive graphics of your cartoon-like band performing onstage (especially with the Microsoft Xbox 360 and Sony PlayStation 3 versions), downloadable songs from the Internet and the ability to play with or against friends beside you or online (note: the PS2 version does not allow for Internet play). The wireless Gibson Les Paul guitar (included) is comfortable, lightweight and durable.

One of the more fun (but tough) new features is "boss battles," where you must play head-to-head against the likes of guitar gods such as Slash (Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver) and Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave). Play well and you'll collect "power-ups" you can unleash on your opponent, such as ones that make the notes harder to see, reverse the colors on the fret board and lock the guitar until your foe rapidly presses down on the "Whammy bar" to shake off the effect. These power-ups can be used in "battle mode" against a real opponent in front of the same TV or over the Internet.

With more than 70 percent of the songs from the original artists (the rest are decent cover versions), the impressive track lineup includes oldies like The Rolling Stones' Paint It Black, Aerosmith's Same Old Song and Dance and Alice Cooper's School's Out and newer hits like Guns N' Roses' Welcome to the Jungle, AFI's Miss Murder and Kaiser Chiefs' Ruby. In total, Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock features more than 70 tracks. Some bands even re-entered the studio to re-record their classics for this game, including the Sex Pistols (Anarchy in the U.K. ) and Living Colour (Cult of Personality ).

"Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock" will hook you from the moment you strum your first chord, but even with the battle mode and online options it's not too different from past games -- which is just fine for many.

Music game fans should expect our in-depth review of Rock Band (www.rockband.com) in a couple of weeks, which lets you not only play guitar but also have friends join in on the bass, drums and microphone.

GH3 drums mod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHrotjZTerQ

ok, I know the band you are talking about now, and I remember that they have a really cool sound! :cool: I wish that song was available separately.

If you like Dropkick Murphys you'll probably like The Pogues and The Saw Doctors. Just for your own personal music collection. I love those bands, but haven't taken much liking to Dropkick Murphys. Probably because the first place I heard them was that song in MVP 2005 and haven't really given them much chance since.

If you like Dropkick Murphys you'll probably like The Pogues and The Saw Doctors. Just for your own personal music collection. I love those bands, but haven't taken much liking to Dropkick Murphys. Probably because the first place I heard them was that song in MVP 2005 and haven't really given them much chance since.

it's not their normal sound but "last of the wilds" by Nightwish is a another awesome celtic rock song. The version on the latest album dark passion play is an instrumental but the song does have lyrics.

i just got gh3 some questions for people who have played this game.

1. everytime i start the game i have to choose where to save is that normal? I have a 360 pro.

2. there are supposedly unlockable songs you can get during co-op career. can you do co-op career over xbox live?

i just got gh3 some questions for people who have played this game.

1. everytime i start the game i have to choose where to save is that normal? I have a 360 pro.

2. there are supposedly unlockable songs you can get during co-op career. can you do co-op career over xbox live?

1. I don't know if it's normal, but it happens to me too and it's annoying as hell. Only one other game I own does that - Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

2. No

OK after trying for several weeks on and off to get passed Psychobilly Freakout on hard I have given up...

Can someone suggest a cheat code or cheat mode to help get me passed this one song so I can continue with the next tier already? Thanks!!

I have decided that, much like playing a real musical instrument, sometimes people just reach a concrete ceiling in their talents.

Of course after like 20 tries I give up in disgust....I guess if I was a DEDICATED CYBER MUSICIAN I'd stick with it :)

I have decided that, much like playing a real musical instrument, sometimes people just reach a concrete ceiling in their talents.


You could approach these games like a real musical instrument...

...but it's also a video game where levels can be beat if you use the right power-up at the right time. ;)

You could approach these games like a real musical instrument...

...but it's also a video game where levels can be beat if you use the right power-up at the right time. ;)

Thats how I 3 starred everything up until PBF :)

Actually I've had fun going back and 5-starring some songs on hard, but then there are ones where "3 stars is fine".....

Now I'm onto Rockband, where I like what they did: HARD on RockBand is 5 buttons at GH2's medium speed..or just slightly faster, and expert is full speed, all buttons......

Master recordings from Warner/Reprise artists Linkin Park, Mastadon and The Used will be available as a downloadable track pack for Activision, Inc.’s (Nasdaq: ATVI) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, during the month of December. Additionally, Activision will offer single song downloads from such popular European bands as Extremoduro, Trust and Die Fantastischen Vier, as well as a free, exclusive rock rendition of the holiday classic “We Three Kings,” recorded by Steve Ouimette. The Warner/Reprise Track Pack, single song downloads, and free holiday classic will be available for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system.

The Warner/Reprise Track Pack includes master recordings of “No More Sorrow,” by Linkin Park, “Sleeping Giant,” by Mastadon and “Pretty Handsome Awkward,” by The Used. The single song downloads offer such popular singles as “So Payaso,” from Extremoduro, “Antisocial” from Trust, and “Ernten Was Wir Säen” from Die Fantastischen Vier.

After weeks of trying to get passed Psychobilly Freakout I have given up and just need to move on to the next tier.

What cheat code(s) can I use to get passed this song more easily than the straight-up normal way? I asked a week ago but did not get any replies. I am done practicing and practicing and trying and trying. Time to move on. Rarely I do such a thing but its either bypass it and move on or put the game away indefinitely...

Will that hyperspeed thing help in some way? I read somewhere that it can, but seems to me it would just make things HARDER? :confused:

Thanks.

After weeks of trying to get passed Psychobilly Freakout I have given up and just need to move on to the next tier.

What cheat code(s) can I use to get passed this song more easily than the straight-up normal way? I asked a week ago but did not get any replies. I am done practicing and practicing and trying and trying. Time to move on. Rarely I do such a thing but its either bypass it and move on or put the game away indefinitely...

Will that hyperspeed thing help in some way? I read somewhere that it can, but seems to me it would just make things HARDER? :confused:

Thanks.

it hekps in reading some of the songs. SOme songs liek PBF and Jordan can be very hard to read accurately much less play. The hypseed cheat doesn't affect the speed of teh song just the notes. so while your reading faster it should be clearer on what your supposed to play.

After weeks of trying to get passed Psychobilly Freakout I have given up and just need to move on to the next tier.

What cheat code(s) can I use to get passed this song more easily than the straight-up normal way? I asked a week ago but did not get any replies. I am done practicing and practicing and trying and trying. Time to move on. Rarely I do such a thing but its either bypass it and move on or put the game away indefinitely...

Will that hyperspeed thing help in some way? I read somewhere that it can, but seems to me it would just make things HARDER? :confused:

Thanks.

There is no cheat to get passed it, you just have to beat it.

Master recordings from Warner/Reprise artists Linkin Park, Mastadon and The Used will be available as a downloadable track pack for Activision, Inc.’s (Nasdaq: ATVI) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock, during the month of December. Additionally, Activision will offer single song downloads from such popular European bands as Extremoduro, Trust and Die Fantastischen Vier, as well as a free, exclusive rock rendition of the holiday classic “We Three Kings,” recorded by Steve Ouimette. The Warner/Reprise Track Pack, single song downloads, and free holiday classic will be available for the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system.

The Warner/Reprise Track Pack includes master recordings of “No More Sorrow,” by Linkin Park, “Sleeping Giant,” by Mastadon and “Pretty Handsome Awkward,” by The Used. The single song downloads offer such popular singles as “So Payaso,” from Extremoduro, “Antisocial” from Trust, and “Ernten Was Wir Säen” from Die Fantastischen Vier.


I'm disappointed with this pack. I'll download the free holiday song, but that's it.

There is no cheat to get passed it, you just have to beat it.

Thanks. I was hoping there was a cheat like something that started you out with full star power or slowed the songs down a tad. I think I will get passed PBF (on Hard) eventually. I remember this song driving me crazy when first learning and playing on Medium. However this time its really gotten to the point where it is a struggle.

Thanks. I was hoping there was a cheat like something that started you out with full star power or slowed the songs down a tad. I think I will get passed PBF (on Hard) eventually. I remember this song driving me crazy when first learning and playing on Medium. However this time its really gotten to the point where it is a struggle.

PBF is a beast, all I can tell you is take into practice mode and slow down the intro and get a feel for the rhythm (if you can call anything in PBF a rhythm;))

Then save SP for the solo and hold on for dear life! You'll do it, it seemed impossible to me on hard but on about the 50th run thru something just clicked and since then it's not bad at all, I dont even have to use SP and I can get close to 5*

Any one still playing this? The thread fell pretty far!

Not since Rock Band came out - it is superior in every way.

Not since Rock Band came out - it is superior in every way.

+1

I didn't think it would happen, but drums have totally taken over my rhythm-game interest. Nothing against the beloved Guitar Hero games, but even with the hassle of moving furniture and plugging in a wired controller for each play session (:eek:) -- every time I turn on a console, I only want to play RockBand.

That hasn't happened to me in years.

+1

I didn't think it would happen, but drums have totally taken over my rhythm-game interest. Nothing against the beloved Guitar Hero games, but even with the hassle of moving furniture and plugging in a wired controller for each play session (:eek:) -- every time I turn on a console, I only want to play RockBand.

That hasn't happened to me in years.

DaverJ what's your gamertag? Let's drum duel! Who's got winner? :D

DaverJ what's your gamertag? Let's drum duel! Who's got winner? :D

uhhh... I said I liked playing the drums. I never said I was any good.... :o

<---(slowly bows head and backs away from the challenge.)

btw, my gamertag should be easy to figure out. ;)

Rock Band is quite possibly the peak accomplishment of humanity.

But all 360 owners should also get:

GH3 bundle
GH2 bundle

Put the strat in the closet and use the Red Octane controllers. There is way to much fun to be had on GH to lose out just because you got Rock Band first. The more the merrier.

Not since Rock Band came out - it is superior in every way.

agreed. rock band is just more fun, while gh seems to be evolving into a chore. someone stated it before on one of these forums...with rock band you feel like you are playing along with the game, with gh3 you feel like you are playing against the game.

tracklist wise I prefer rock band by a mile. GH tends to have too many of the obscure metal songs that (to me at least) aren't any good, they're just ridiculous note charts.

I still play both GH and RB, some songs on GH are just so fun to play I have to just kick back and play them, over and over.

To the guy struggling with Psychobilly Freakout on hard, wait till Carry Me Home, I thought that was harder.

Rock Band is quite possibly the peak accomplishment of humanity.

But all 360 owners should also get:

GH3 bundle
GH2 bundle

Put the strat in the closet and use the Red Octane controllers. There is way to much fun to be had on GH to lose out just because you got Rock Band first. The more the merrier.

Don't do this - try the guitars for yourself. I think the strat is vastly superior to either of the Red Octane controllers. Obviously ymmv.

To the guy struggling with Psychobilly Freakout on hard, wait till Carry Me Home, I thought that was harder.

That would be me. When I originally went through my career on Medium the only song I really got stuck on and struggled for a while with was PF. So I've been thinking that if I can get passed it on Hard then I shouldn't have much issue with any of the remaining songs (at least not like with PF). But thanks for giving me THAT to look forward to now! :D

To the guy struggling with Psychobilly Freakout on hard, wait till Carry Me Home, I thought that was harder.
I don't know why but I really struggled with Carry Me Home on hard on the PS2 version but beat it first try on the 360 while I got through PF quickly on PS2 and struggled mightily on the 360. As far as I know there were no gameplay or notechart changes between the two versions.

Don't do this - try the guitars for yourself. I think the strat is vastly superior to either of the Red Octane controllers. Obviously ymmv.
I definitely prefer the Strat and wish I could use it on GH2 (not a fan of GH3). It definitely takes some getting used to but it really pays off (and plays more like a real guitar imho) once you do.

Don't do this - try the guitars for yourself. I think the strat is vastly superior to either of the Red Octane controllers. Obviously ymmv.

Seconded. My friends and I all love the Stratocaster much more than the Les Paul or Xplorer. Try them and see what works for you.

Except for a few minor detals the strat is vastly superior to the les paul. the layout is perfect. The solo buttons are a joy to use and the whammy bar is cake.

I much prefer Rock Band for multiplayer fun, but I still like GH2 and 3 as one player (guitar) games (although drums are damn fun on Rock Band single player).

As for guitars, at this point I'm giving a slight edge to the Les Paul out of all of them. But that's mainly due to the fact that I'm having to RMA my Strat as the whammy has stopped working consistantly and down-strumming comes and goes. The solo buttons kick ass though.

I still play both GH and RB, some songs on GH are just so fun to play I have to just kick back and play them, over and over.

To the guy struggling with Psychobilly Freakout on hard, wait till Carry Me Home, I thought that was harder.

Hell I find Carry Me Home a chore on MEDIUM... :P

Something about the notes and the way your fingers have to move, i can't remember if its the quick HO/PO's or the fact that you have to move down the fretboard (its been awhile). Meh....

PS: I prefer the Rock Band guitar SO MUCH over the GH2 guitar, but dont yet have gh3 in house yet.......but Guitar Hero 2 doesn't recognize the Rock Band guitar.....meh.....

The new GH3 dlc is up.

Free xmas song

"We Three Kings" by Steve Ouimette


$6.25 Pack

"Pretty Handsome Awkward" by The Used
"Sleeping Giant" by Mastadon
"No More Sorrow" by Linkin Park


$2.50 each European Singles

"So Payaso" by Extremoduro
"Antisocial" by Trust
"Ernten Was Wir Säen" by Die Fantastischen Vier

Man, they sure are sucking it up in comparison to RB DLC. At least they're still providing something.

at least some are free even if they aren't the best

halo theme on gh3 is pretty cool

at least some are free even if they aren't the best

halo theme on gh3 is pretty cool

I agree about the Halo theme and the fact they are at least doing free ones. I was thinking the suckage was more related to the songs being released, the cost, and the inability to purchase songs individually that are already in packs.

Finally beat GHIII on Medium after getting it for xmas and not playing till the 26th. So it took 4 days... One by Metallica really threw me for a loop, but the Muse - Knights of Cydonia song was still the biggest PITA.

Tried playing on Hard and was surprised to actually beat a song "hit me with your best shot"... tried it on expert and can almost beat it, about 80% through before I fail. Really want Rockband now though... I dont think I want to really continue with GHIII as Hard and Expert are no fun for me.

Cant wait to get on Live though... thats the next step.

Finally beat GHIII on Medium after getting it for xmas and not playing till the 26th. So it took 4 days... One by Metallica really threw me for a loop, but the Muse - Knights of Cydonia song was still the biggest PITA.

Tried playing on Hard and was surprised to actually beat a song "hit me with your best shot"... tried it on expert and can almost beat it, about 80% through before I fail. Really want Rockband now though... I dont think I want to really continue with GHIII as Hard and Expert are no fun for me.

Cant wait to get on Live though... thats the next step.have you played GHII (extensively) before?
after enough practice and time given, I've found Hard to be the perfect test of ability. Medium is too easy and Expert is too hard (chaotic).

I still much prefer GHII over GHIII. the note charts seem more realistic, or maybe they just chose songs that work better for charts. aside from a few songs I really like to play on GHIII (CoP, MNiJ) I don't really enjoy the way the charts are done. the only good thing I can take away from it is, since there are so many songs that require super fast altstrumming, I've finally learned how to do it better, which has helped me with GHII

have you played GHII (extensively) before?
after enough practice and time given, I've found Hard to be the perfect test of ability. Medium is too easy and Expert is too hard (chaotic).

I still much prefer GHII over GHIII. the note charts seem more realistic, or maybe they just chose songs that work better for charts. aside from a few songs I really like to play on GHIII (CoP, MNiJ) I don't really enjoy the way the charts are done. the only good thing I can take away from it is, since there are so many songs that require super fast altstrumming, I've finally learned how to do it better, which has helped me with GHII

I know it's all about fun but the expert level is where you should try and stabilize at. Once your comfortable on hard I say immediately start expert. Expert really isn't a whole lot more complex than hard.

I know it's all about fun but the expert level is where you should try and stabilize at. Once your comfortable on hard I say immediately start expert. Expert really isn't a whole lot more complex than hard.

For some people hard/expert isn't realistic. Some folks simply dont have the speed/finger control/dexterity required to play this game at the expert/hard level.

Other folks really dont want to take the time to learn the song and train their fingers.....section by section...on where to go. For me, when a game becomes work, I generally give up. I can play BARK AT THE MOON on medium almost without looking at the screen in GH2. On Hard, I can't seem to get past 1/2 way.....in order to do that I'd need to play the song over and over and over and over, learning each section and training my fingers where to be. How to strum, etc.....and for some folks thats where it gets frustrating.

I mean, if I have to invest hours into learning how to play Guitar Hero on Hard....why not invest hours and learn to play a real guitar?

I think hard should be everyones goal.....because then you are truly living the "Guitar Hero" experience....you really do feel like you are playing the actual song because the tempo is full and so forth, but reality is that Medium is as high as alot of folks will ever go and still have "fun" with the game.

I know it's all about fun but the expert level is where you should try and stabilize at. Once your comfortable on hard I say immediately start expert. Expert really isn't a whole lot more complex than hard.I'm stabilized on all levels. I just find Hard to be more enjoyable. I can actually Full Count (100%) songs on Hard.
*but I also refuse to use the Practice Mode, or play a song more than once in a row*

Question for you GH2 and 3 owners... I have GR2 which the wife and I enjoy playing. I'm considering GH3 now but I'm trying to determine if it's worth just grabbing the game alone or getting the game with the bundled guitar (giving us two).
We don't play on live so I'm curious how fun the local coop mode on 2 is and how the versus mode on 3 is locally (if in fact there is one). Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

Question for you GH2 and 3 owners... I have GR2 which the wife and I enjoy playing. I'm considering GH3 now but I'm trying to determine if it's worth just grabbing the game alone or getting the game with the bundled guitar (giving us two).


The wireless Les Paul is a very nice controller, and two people rockin' at the same time is good fun.

If money isn't too tight, I say go for the wireless bundle. Beware some places selling the wired guitar in the bundle.

Question for you GH2 and 3 owners... I have GR2 which the wife and I enjoy playing. I'm considering GH3 now but I'm trying to determine if it's worth just grabbing the game alone or getting the game with the bundled guitar (giving us two).
We don't play on live so I'm curious how fun the local coop mode on 2 is and how the versus mode on 3 is locally (if in fact there is one). Any input would be appreciated. Thanks!

You'd probably be better off getting Rock Band and an extra controller - it's a lot more fun than GH3.

I'm a Guitar Hero newb, got GH3 for Xmas with wireless Les paul. I feel bad as I got like 4 other games, and have no desire to play them so far lol.

I just saw that Guitar Hero 2 is out for the 360, but only has a wired guitar(shame as I love the Explorer design). Will the wireless Les Paul be compatable? I don't see why not, it's essensially a 360 controller, but I want to be sure before I buy the game without the controller.

Also, how long is the wire on the Explorer? Can't find that info anywhere, and is it a USB cord I assume?

I'm a Guitar Hero newb, got GH3 for Xmas with wireless Les paul. I feel bad as I got like 4 other games, and have no desire to play them so far lol.

I just saw that Guitar Hero 2 is out for the 360, but only has a wired guitar(shame as I love the Explorer design). Will the wireless Les Paul be compatable? I don't see why not, it's essensially a 360 controller, but I want to be sure before I buy the game without the controller.

Also, how long is the wire on the Explorer? Can't find that info anywhere, and is it a USB cord I assume?

I can't speak on the compatablity between the les paul and GH2 but teh x-plorer has a 6 ft cable. I used a 6 ft USB extension with it back when I had mine and it worked just fine.

I can't speak on the compatablity between the les paul and GH2 but teh x-plorer has a 6 ft cable. I used a 6 ft USB extension with it back when I had mine and it worked just fine.
Thats what I'll do if they aren't compatable. I'm actually thinking even if they are compatable of getting the game with the Explorer to have an extra controller for friends. Someone must know, no doubt it's been tried by now.

Medium is a pain btw, Mississippi Queen is driving me mad, as it's a simple song, but I keep messing up that ****** opening 4 note riff. If I could nail the guitar solo from Rock and Roll all Nite, I know I can do this one:mad:! I'm forcing myself to get 5 stars on every song, it's like beating my head against a wall. I almost miss easy, but I can't even play easy anymore, as I'm used to the faster pace.

Thats what I'll do if they aren't compatable. I'm actually thinking even if they are compatable of getting the game with the Explorer to have an extra controller for friends. Someone must know, no doubt it's been tried by now.

Medium is a pain btw, Mississippi Queen is driving me mad, as it's a simple song, but I keep messing up that ****** opening 4 note riff. If I could nail the guitar solo from Rock and Roll all Nite, I know I can do this one:mad:! I'm forcing myself to get 5 stars on every song, it's like beating my head against a wall. I almost miss easy, but I can't even play easy anymore, as I'm used to the faster pace.

I hate to be that guy but it's still amazing to me that people have so much trouble on the medium settings. I know, I know I was like that one point but if you keep at it eventually medium becomes just so boring. Hell I should be jealous. When there's new DLC for rock band I can rarely even enjoy the hard note charts anymore. On guitar it has to be expert. Luckily on drums I'm not terrific on expert yet so I can still enjoy hard a bit more.

Medium is a pain btw, Mississippi Queen is driving me mad, as it's a simple song, but I keep messing up that ****** opening 4 note riff. If I could nail the guitar solo from Rock and Roll all Nite, I know I can do this one:mad:! I'm forcing myself to get 5 stars on every song, it's like beating my head against a wall. I almost miss easy, but I can't even play easy anymore, as I'm used to the faster pace.

It seems hard for a while, then muscle memory builds up, your pinky gets stronger, and it seems easy.

The you move to hard, with 5 buttons for 4 fingers. You'll think it's impossible, swear, call the game unholy names, etc. Then it will start clicking. For me it happened very suddenly...one day Hard just didn't seem that "Hard" any more, and I started literally doubling my high scores on certain songs in one play. It's a VERY cool feeling the first time you come to a tricky part you can never hit, and your hands just seem to move on their own and nail it.

Stay with it and stuff you thought was impossible, you'll be able to do in your sleep.

I'm a Guitar Hero newb, got GH3 for Xmas with wireless Les paul. I feel bad as I got like 4 other games, and have no desire to play them so far lol.

I just saw that Guitar Hero 2 is out for the 360, but only has a wired guitar(shame as I love the Explorer design). Will the wireless Les Paul be compatable? I don't see why not, it's essensially a 360 controller, but I want to be sure before I buy the game without the controller.

Also, how long is the wire on the Explorer? Can't find that info anywhere, and is it a USB cord I assume?

You can use the Les Paul with Guitar Hero 2. It works just fine.

It seems hard for a while, then muscle memory builds up, your pinky gets stronger, and it seems easy.

The you move to hard, with 5 buttons for 4 fingers. You'll think it's impossible, swear, call the game unholy names, etc. Then it will start clicking. For me it happened very suddenly...one day Hard just didn't seem that "Hard" any more, and I started literally doubling my high scores on certain songs in one play. It's a VERY cool feeling the first time you come to a tricky part you can never hit, and your hands just seem to move on their own and nail it.

Stay with it and stuff you thought was impossible, you'll be able to do in your sleep.

Agreed. I couldn't get past Knights of Cydonia on hard until one day I just fired it up and passed on my first try that day. I haven't started the last set though, so it'll probably take awhile to get through them. For me though, hard is much more fun than medium even if I do fail the song.

It seems hard for a while, then muscle memory builds up, your pinky gets stronger, and it seems easy.

The you move to hard, with 5 buttons for 4 fingers. You'll think it's impossible, swear, call the game unholy names, etc. Then it will start clicking. For me it happened very suddenly...one day Hard just didn't seem that "Hard" any more, and I started literally doubling my high scores on certain songs in one play. It's a VERY cool feeling the first time you come to a tricky part you can never hit, and your hands just seem to move on their own and nail it.

Stay with it and stuff you thought was impossible, you'll be able to do in your sleep.I'm so glad I only play with 3 fingers (except for RO, GB, etc chords)!!! I find that I learn hand placement much easier (something that real guitar requires).

Hard - for me - wasn't so much that it was too fast, or the notes/chords were tough, it was the rhythm that was required. songs like Surrender you will be totally unprepared for. once you understand it, Hard isn't hard anymore (until you get to solos)

I hate Paint it Black, it's a great song, but playing it is a lie! The entire thing is off beat, and made to throw you off at the expense of the notes making any sense in their placement. So far I've got 5 stars on everything till that one, just 4 stars on it, was so angry I couldn't see straight, so I turned it off.

Sure am glad the make the guitar sturdy.

The cords give me the me the biggest issues when playing on hard.......

I just started playing GH3 (got it as a gift) last night and blew through most of the game on Hard, the only song that gave me trouble was Cherub Rock, because of its silly 3-chord changeups that my fingers weren't used to doing. I know there are harder songs to come, and on Hard I'm happy if I make it through, I dont think I 5-starred any song but luckily I didn't have to play any more than once. My goal was to see how far I could get, and unlock all the songs in the hopes of finding ones I wanted to play again.

Meh....so many of the covers in this game sound so dull and lifeless.....

But..this game isn't fun. The Slash battle..isn't really fun. The Morello battle..isn't really fun. The Songs themselves, IMHO, suck. Gh2 and RB have a far superior (to me) set of songs, even the DLC for GH3 is of no interest to me. The songs I enjoy playing, most of them are also in Rock Band. Glad it was a gift. But the guitar is better than the X-Plorer, so I'm guessing I can do much better in GH2 with this guitar.

And to the guy struggling....you just have to put in the time and start training your hand how to move. Pretty soon you'll be moving your hand all over the fretboard playing notes with different fingers, it just takes awhile for your brain to "get it".

In just a couple of hours playing co-op on medium, I noticed that the HO/POs were kind of goofy in that notes that should logically be HO/PO per the music weren't HO/PO, and other notes that had no business at all being a HO/PO were. It was weird and not that enjoyable.

So far I really do enjoy the setlist, though, and kind of wish these songs were in Rock Band so that my 40+ year old friends would have more songs they knew to sing. :)

In just a couple of hours playing co-op on medium, I noticed that the HO/POs were kind of goofy in that notes that should logically be HO/PO per the music weren't HO/PO, and other notes that had no business at all being a HO/PO were. It was weird and not that enjoyable.

The only place I really noticed odd HO/POs were on bends, which are obviously impossible on the guitar controller, but make more sense to me (and apparently Neversoft) as a HO/PO vs. another strum. I guess the intro to "My Name is Jonas" also featured an extended HO/PO that was seemingly unnecessary. Maybe they did it without and it was too hard or something. It's been awhile since I played medium, so maybe there are more oddities there.

Hey speaking of which, is the Rock band Guitar compatable with GH2 and 3? The family has expressed interest in drums and vocals lol. As tyhat and GH2 do indeed both seem to have better songs.

For the record My Name is Jonas sucks, it's a horrible song but horrible band, AND it's so slow and has wierd notes I can't seem to do better than 4 stars.

For the record My Name is Jonas sucks, it's a horrible song but horrible band, AND it's so slow and has wierd notes I can't seem to do better than 4 stars.sorry, Buddy Holly is the worse song (from the blue album) by them.
I find MNiJ to be fun to play. the HO/PO sections are fun to bounce around the fretboard to play (even if unrealistic).

You guys are on crack. Both of those songs kick major ass and Weezer (old Weezer) is freaking sweet.

You guys are on crack. Both of those songs kick major ass and Weezer (old Weezer) is freaking sweet.

I almost posted the same... but then I remembered the chart for Jonas in GH3 and not enjoying playing it.

It wasn't as bad as the Holiday in Cambodia (Dead Kennedys) chart though! :rolleyes:

I almost posted the same... but then I remembered the chart for Jonas in GH3 and not enjoying playing it.

It wasn't as bad as the Holiday in Cambodia (Dead Kennedys) chart though! :rolleyes:

Yeah but Neversoft screwed up mosts of the charts in GH3. Can't blame Weezer for it. ;)

Yeah but Neversoft screwed up mosts of the charts in GH3. Can't blame Weezer for it. ;)

Agreed.

However, props to Neversoft for the great job with the Priestess "Lay Down" song. The song isn't all that, but it's a lot of fun to play.

You guys are on crack. Both of those songs kick major ass and Weezer (old Weezer) is freaking sweet.
I know everyone loves Buddy Holly. I just don't like joke/novelty songs, and that's what it is.
they might as well put Nada Surf - Popular in GH4

I really liked the charts for "My Name is Jonas" and "Holiday in Cambodia" (past the noise intro). I'll finally get to play some Rock Band guitar career, but I really don't understand why people don't like GH3 and love RB. From the cover quality to the charts I think GH3 better than GH2 in every way, which I already thought was awesome.

I really liked the charts for "My Name is Jonas" and "Holiday in Cambodia" (past the noise intro). I'll finally get to play some Rock Band guitar career, but I really don't understand why people don't like GH3 and love RB. From the cover quality to the charts I think GH3 better than GH2 in every way, which I already thought was awesome.

For me some covers did suck(the who track for one). Overall most of charts were annoying rather than fun. And many of later songs are over difficult(raining blood). I knew TTFATF would be a mindless crap shred fest but I didn't count on the notecharts being so overly difficult for the sake of being difficult. I play on expert and ended just disgusted the vast majority of the songs. It's very obvious that there was maybe two pro chart makers and then 3 or more guys they scooped up off of scorehero's custom chart board. Plus a bonus song list that is just a list of crap except for a few holdouts. Things just don't make a whole lot of sense in GH3 to me and to many otehr people who moved on to RB.

Gripes with GH3:

-Charts are annoying in some cases....unlike GH2, even on Hard, don't feel like I am "playing" the song in some cases, feel like I'm playing "Simon". And just trying to keep up. The illusion of "playing" isn't really there for me.

-Some really uninspired covers this time around...I had no problems with the covers in GH2, but for some reason the covers in GH3 seem too..well...generic, uninspired, like they really SOUND like Covers...like I'm listening to a cover band. The Kiss cover of Rock and Roll All-Night sounds terrible (especially compared to the master track of Detroit Rock City on RB) and soft and uninspired.

-A really questionable list of songs for a game called GUITAR HERO: LEGENDS OF ROCK.
Part of the problem is I'm playing some of these songs already on Rock Band....with more fun Note Charts :) And I have to really work my way through songs like Sunshine of your Love and Paint It Black (great songs, dont get me wrong, but not for a Guitar Hero game). And that Social D song..man, could they have picked a LAMER tune from them? :P Oh yeah...and while I love them claiming 70 songs, its more like 40...with 35 of them worth playing over again, maybe. Having 30+ tracks from B-List bands is not my idea of fun, and its not why I buy a game called "Legends of Rock". New Rule for GH4: Leave the "bands you've probably heard on some racing or snowboarding game soundtrack!" off the list please.

But what I ***LOVE*** about Gh3, as opposed to RB, is that GH3 looks hysterically well done, the Gorillaz-esque animation is top notch and I love the segways between levels, I also love the levels...playing in the prison...etc, seeing my boy the Groovy Hippy bass player.

Rock Band **SUCKS** in that regard...the visual presentation in Rock Band is absolutely terrible, IMHO. Its just bland, that fake film grain and vignetting, like its taking itself too seriously. GH3 for the win in this regard.

Rock Band **SUCKS** in that regard...the visual presentation in Rock Band is absolutely terrible, IMHO. Its just bland, that fake film grain and vignetting, like its taking itself too seriously. GH3 for the win in this regard.

Well I can't speak for taste but I througjly enjoy the 40 venues and overall teh camera work and presentation look way better on both PS3 and 360. Animation wise GH3 is god awful. The vocalist is rarely in sync with the vocals(plus he's just f'n ugly), the drummer is a robot and overall the effects just look half baked. I admit some of the venues in rock band are kind of cool most are just lame. The "Pontiac road show trailer"? Come on dude.

The wife thinks the Guitar Hero characters look like "monsters".

The mocap work in RockBand is quite excellent, methinks... along with the stage lighting and effects (pyro on cue!).

My 4 yo daughter loves all the female characters in GH3. It's pretty funny seeing her try to rock out and dance like the Japanese girl in the game.

Well I can't speak for taste but I througjly enjoy the 40 venues and overall teh camera work and presentation look way better on both PS3 and 360. Animation wise GH3 is god awful. The vocalist is rarely in sync with the vocals(plus he's just f'n ugly), the drummer is a robot and overall the effects just look half baked. I admit some of the venues in rock band are kind of cool most are just lame. The "Pontiac road show trailer"? Come on dude.

I haven't noticed the sync between GH3 and RB to be very different. Oh, but I do find it somewhat comical to see a skinny mod-looking black guy with curly hair (!?) singing most of the songs...thats just....an odd artistic choice.

I like the look of the goofy Rock Band characters..I mean I play as Larrs Umalaut, but I do like being able to create my own guy in RB.

I just like the look of RB...its comical, over the top...I like the little funny segways between the stages in GH3.

Also I dont believe I commented on the rampant product placement...

RB takes itself entirely too seriously....IMHO. I love the intro with the guy smoking other Guitar guys, the guitar god coming to life, etc...that stuff amuses me....that, to me, is what a GH game should be. Silly, but fun, like air-guitaring should be.

I haven't noticed the sync between GH3 and RB to be very different. Oh, but I do find it somewhat comical to see a skinny mod-looking black guy with curly hair (!?) singing most of the songs...thats just....an odd artistic choice.

The singers' syncing in Rock Band is much better than GH3. And the singers are different every time you play - it's not like there's one vocalist for the entire game...

Welp, my red and yellow fret buttons now only work about 25% of the time. I've searched throughout the Red Octane and Activision websites for a warranty exchange form...but have come up empty handed. But I have learned that this problem is rather widespread.
So how do I go about getting a working guitar from Red Octane?

I had a problem with the strumming on my Rock Band guitar and just went to a simple replacement website. Two days later I had a working guitar and a box with free postage to mail my broken guitar back. Where's Red Octane's equivalent?

Well i had to swallow some pride. Alot of the last group of songs in GH3 just will never be 5 star performances on medium. It would help if the notes on screen made sense and followed the beat of the song in some way. Also the battle with the devil at the end is not possible. They don't include enough 'ammo' to throw at him, and what little bit there is, is thrown in with the hardest parts of the song to play. I am amazed I got everying else in 5 star though. I was about to lose my religion over Cherub Rock, I played it with 97% accuracy, and still only got 4 stars, had to play 99% to get the 5 star rating finally.

Anyway, I got the God of Rock character very cool and obviously modeled after Zach Wylde(Black Label Society, and more notably Ozzy's ex lead guitarist). Also, who else loves the song Cliffs of Dover by Eric Johnson? I'll spend a little time trying to get those songs up but I don't have much hope. I may try hard, but I don't see that happening after this ridiculousness.

Really wish I weren't still recovering from Xmas, or I'd get GH2 and Rock Band immediatly.

the best way on the 360 to play RB is to use GH3's wireless guitars. The RB guitar looks and feels better but its got bad quality. When I do get the notes, the GH3 Les Paul is always on the dot.

Well actually I beat the devil, I forget a lucky combo early can sometimes be enough to beat them. But I find the boss battles to be very lame. I enjoyed them more downloading the battle songs and just playing them. By the way, the Halo theme performed by Steve Via is fricking awesome!! Need more Vai in these games.

So I went and got 5 stars on the songs where the notes make sense(Knights of Sydonia and Stricken are two prime examples of pure BS). Now I need GH2 and RB.

Also, had anyone shaved down the little plastic highlight on the yellow key on the GH3 Gibson? I find it most distracting when making yellow/blue notes. I don't see a purpose for it, except maybe a reference by feel, which I don't need anyway.

Yes its to reference by feel.....

And if you can 5 star GH3 on Hard, you'll blow through Rock Band on expert your first time through, maybe stumbling on a few of the harder songs. GH2 will be more of a challenge.

Also, had anyone shaved down the little plastic highlight on the yellow key on the GH3 Gibson? I find it most distracting when making yellow/blue notes. I don't see a purpose for it, except maybe a reference by feel, which I don't need anyway.

That's because you're playing on medium. Once you move up to hard/expert you need it.

Yes its to reference by feel.....

And if you can 5 star GH3 on Hard, you'll blow through Rock Band on expert your first time through, maybe stumbling on a few of the harder songs. GH2 will be more of a challenge.

GGaHT as well as Highway star will own anybody coming into RB expecting a cake walk on expert. Also RB timing is much more precise(HO/POs are much more strict on timing). then there's the metallica pack.

So a friend of mine just got GH2 with the X-plorer. Said X-plorer has a loose whammy bar and my Google skills seem to be failing me in trying to find a guide to fix that whammy bar. Any ideas or guidance to a guide guys?

Thanks! :)

not sure exactly what the problem is, but this could help

http://www.allaboutthegames.net/feature_story.php?article_id=7714

there is also more discussion back in the earlier pages of the thread, probably between page 15-25

Thanks for the effort, but my problem is a different one. I should have clarified a bit more. :) Sorry. The silver bar that you grab for doing the whammys rotates. The rotation is the part that is loose, so while I want it to be basicly parallel with the strum bar, it instead falls toward facing the ground if I do not hold onto it. It isn't staying in the position that I leave it (like my 2 wireless Les Pauls or my real guitar). The functionality of the whammy is perfect, just not the bar itself.

Googling leads to tons of posts/guides dealing with the sensitivy issue like in your link. The only real reference I have seen to a loose whammy is earlier in this thread (PM'd the problem haver) and in passing in other threads. I have yet to find a resolution to the issue. :(

Thanks for the effort, but my problem is a different one. I should have clarified a bit more. :) Sorry. The silver bar that you grab for doing the whammys rotates. The rotation is the part that is loose, so while I want it to be basicly parallel with the strum bar, it instead falls toward facing the ground if I do not hold onto it. It isn't staying in the position that I leave it (like my 2 wireless Les Pauls or my real guitar). The functionality of the whammy is perfect, just not the bar itself.

Googling leads to tons of posts/guides dealing with the sensitivy issue like in your link. The only real reference I have seen to a loose whammy is earlier in this thread (PM'd the problem haver) and in passing in other threads. I have yet to find a resolution to the issue. :(

That's actually how a whammy bar is supposed to work!

That's actually how a whammy bar is supposed to work!

On a real guitar perhaps, but it isn't how the Xplorer is designed....

On a real guitar perhaps, but it isn't how the Xplorer is designed....

Short of taking the thing apart, why not try this:

Take some liquid super glue and put some drops around the edge of
the metal bar going into the plastic housing on the guitar, hopefully it seeps down into the plastic along the metal bar. Let it set for a second or two then twist the bar, let it set for about 5 seconds, twist the bar, etc, etc. Do it for like 5 minutes.

Eventually it'll just dry out but it wont stick, in essense creating some extra material in the gap between the metal bar and the plastic its housed in, hopefully providing enough friction to hold the bar in the position you want it in.

Thats one option....again, if you dont want to take it apart to see if its just a loose screw or something.

Since this is active, I remember people bitching about the covers on GH3, those are masterpieces compared to the godawful covers on GH2. Not one song sounds like the original artist.

Since this is active, I remember people bitching about the covers on GH3, those are masterpieces compared to the godawful covers on GH2. Not one song sounds like the original artist.

the seeker = worst cover ever. only bad cover in GH2 was RATM and it was only the vocalist.

Thanks for the effort, but my problem is a different one. I should have clarified a bit more. :) Sorry. The silver bar that you grab for doing the whammys rotates. The rotation is the part that is loose, so while I want it to be basicly parallel with the strum bar, it instead falls toward facing the ground if I do not hold onto it. It isn't staying in the position that I leave it (like my 2 wireless Les Pauls or my real guitar). The functionality of the whammy is perfect, just not the bar itself.

dont glue your whammy bar


mine was the same way, i wrapped a piece of paper around the base of the bar (after taking it apart) and put it back together with that paper in place, it's held up since the release day of GH2, stiff enough to stay where you put it, but not to stiff to move it out of the way.

the seeker = worst cover ever. only bad cover in GH2 was RATM and it was only the vocalist.

"Mother" is pretty bad on GH2. "Strutter" is not great. "Billion Dollar Babies" isn't bad by itself, but doesn't sound much like the original song, so I'd call it a bad cover. There was definitely more wrong with than just "Killing in the Name".

On GH3 "Story of My Life" is off a little. "Rock and Roll All Nite" is pretty bad. The singer on "Holiday in Cambodia" did a pretty bad job trying to sound like Jello Biafra. I actually didn't think "The Seeker" was that bad of a cover.

Luckily these games are getting more and more master tracks or original performances from the artists as time goes on.

funnily enough I'm competing in a GH contest tonight at my local hangout.

funnily enough I'm competing in a GH contest tonight at my local hangout.

Rock on logicalnoise! \m/

Don't show you face around here unless you win that thing. :p

"That's actually how a whammy bar is supposed to work!"

That's not how it works on my real guitar, or on my two GH3 Les Pauls.

Otherwise, thanks for the ideas guys. I may try the paper-wrap fix, Formula :)

Rock on logicalnoise! \m/

Don't show you face around here unless you win that thing. :p

looks like I'm good for now. I won. Unfortunately it wasn't they real competition. They weren't sure how to do a contest since there's different people playing on different difficulties. SO instead they did a best performance. Which was you trying to rock out as much as possible. I gave it my all and won out.Mostly due to me having the amazing ability to become shameless for extended period of time. I wasn't amazing myself but few others were willing to go as balls out as me. Anyways the true contest is next week. Other than the contest we just played a bunch of pro face off for hours. The only people who played on expert was myself and my friend steve. We amazed the room by dueling each other in dragonforce on hard(I won, I know it means nothing to most GH3 players but hey they were impressed). Anyways I actually had fun and hope I win the contest next week. BTW I won a free 10-20 person party at the bar.

Anyways the true contest is next week.

Congrats!

Next week we demand YouTube videos! :D Or pics will suffice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHYVAlY1HwI

Content: Classic Rock Track Pack
Price: 500 Microsoft Points

"Peace of Mind" as performed by Boston,
"Juke Box Hero" as performed by Foreigner,
"Any Way you Want it" as performed by Journey.

The following trailer is also available as a free download that previews the pack:

Content: Classic Rock Track Pack Trailer (HD)
Price: Free

Content: Classic Rock Track Pack
Price: 500 Microsoft Points

"Peace of Mind" as performed by Boston,
"Juke Box Hero" as performed by Foreigner,
"Any Way you Want it" as performed by Journey.

The following trailer is also available as a free download that previews the pack:

Content: Classic Rock Track Pack Trailer (HD)
Price: Free

despite it being a master still second fiddle to RB on that one.

despite it being a master still second fiddle to RB on that one.
Especially with the pricing being higher, and less value in the fact that you can only play guitar/bass with these.

Especially with the pricing being higher, and less value in the fact that you can only play guitar/bass with these.

That really depends on the note chart, though. The note charts in RB are for the most part so easy that their guitar value is pretty low to begin with.

I won't argue that the forced pack doesn't suck or the price couldn't be better. At least they have 3 good tracks together for once.

Guitar Hero is missing the boat bigtime. They first declared they were going to have the most DLC ever (actually was that GH2 or 3?) and have not even come close to that, then they bring out packs that are $6.25 for three songs, and at least for me nothing even remotely interesting (and I like Boston, Journey and Foreigner).

Rock Band on the other hand has released new DLC every Tuesday since release and I love the individual song pricing with group discount. And the tracks are actually much better, add to that as someone stated above you get Guitar, Bass, Drums and Vocal for each.

Rock Band has at least gotten 1 song purchase a week from me, I did buy 1 three song pack for GH3 which was a waste. The only thing I download for GH3 now is the free stuff.

Heck even the Rock Band stuff is integrated in World Tour, GH3 tracks are just separate songs, no money or any credit in game for them.

Guitar Hero is missing the boat bigtime. They first declared they were going to have the most DLC ever (actually was that GH2 or 3?) and have not even come close to that, then they bring out packs that are $6.25 for three songs, and at least for me nothing even remotely interesting (and I like Boston, Journey and Foreigner).

I agree with this, although this most recent one actually has decent songs. Up until now most of the DLC had 1 good song and 2 filler songs, making for a huge waste of money.

It was Harmonix with GH2 that promised the most DLC ever. It's funny that they didn't follow through on that and yet are doing so well with the same idea on RB. They must've already been in talks with EA or had an eye to the future on RB development.

Rock Band on the other hand has released new DLC every Tuesday since release and I love the individual song pricing with group discount. And the tracks are actually much better, add to that as someone stated above you get Guitar, Bass, Drums and Vocal for each.

I have to say that the value proposition of the gameplay comes down to your taste. The vocals in RB just don't appeal to me, and the guitar is too easy on almost all of the songs, so those parts don't do much for me for the money. The drums are about the only thing that make it worthwhile, so that's the same value as GH3 DLC. For others I realize the RB tracks will be worth much more to them.

I agree with this, although this most recent one actually has decent songs. Up until now most of the DLC had 1 good song and 2 filler songs, making for a huge waste of money.

It was Harmonix with GH2 that promised the most DLC ever. It's funny that they didn't follow through on that and yet are doing so well with the same idea on RB. They must've already been in talks with EA or had an eye to the future on RB development.



I have to say that the value proposition of the gameplay comes down to your taste. The vocals in RB just don't appeal to me, and the guitar is too easy on almost all of the songs, so those parts don't do much for me for the money. The drums are about the only thing that make it worthwhile, so that's the same value as GH3 DLC. For others I realize the RB tracks will be worth much more to them.

HMX never promised "most DLC ever" it was the red octane head in charge of Guitar hero. But like you said HMX moved on and then RO/Activision had to make a new deal with HMX everytime they needed DLC for GH2. What pissed me off at teh time is that they waited 9 monthes till GH3 was coming to own up on why they couldn't fufill their promise.
As for value since the RB tracks are always cheaper there's value right there. just because a note chart is easier doesn't make it worse or in a sense less fun. 3's and 7's is far too annoyingly difficult on GH3 for me to play but the DLC version in rock band is actually quite fun. Numerous songs in GH3 are good but the expert charts are needlessly complicated(before I forget, raining blood).

There have been a few really good GH3 dlc songs:

"Messages" – Velvet Revolver
"Sleeping Giant" – Mastodon
"Ernten Was Wir Säen" Die Fantastischen Vier

Free Songs:
-------------------
GH3: 5
RB: 0

Maybe I cut ATVI a break because I bought a truckload of shares for $18 and sold them for $28. :)

There have been a few really good GH3 dlc songs:

"Messages" – Velvet Revolver
"Sleeping Giant" – Mastodon
"Ernten Was Wir Säen" Die Fantastischen Vier

Free Songs:
-------------------
GH3: 5
RB: 0

Maybe I cut ATVI a break because I bought a truckload of shares for $18 and sold them for $28. :)

To be fair there have been 3 free RB songs, but they were on the OXB disc.

I just paid $10 for them yesterday. :eek:

HMX never promised "most DLC ever" it was the red octane head in charge of Guitar hero.

OK. It was Red Octane, who I suppose is pulling the same thing with GH3. At least this time around they actually are releasing some DLC and didn't promise the world. . .

As for value since the RB tracks are always cheaper there's value right there. just because a note chart is easier doesn't make it worse or in a sense less fun. 3's and 7's is far too annoyingly difficult on GH3 for me to play but the DLC version in rock band is actually quite fun. Numerous songs in GH3 are good but the expert charts are needlessly complicated(before I forget, raining blood).

Cheaper doesn't automatically mean better value. I think as a guitar track the RB tracks have less value, even though they are cheaper. If I don't replay the tracks much, then their value plummets to me. I had little desire to replay many of the songs in RB after finishing all but GGaHT on expert. I only replayed the songs I really liked. The reason is that the charts were just too boring on most of the songs, with very long sections of two note chords occasionally alternating to another two note chord. It may be more like what your average guitarist does night in and night out, but it definitely doesn't make for a fun game to me.

I do agree that some charts in GH3 are over the top. Raining Blood is probably the best example. I just think that most of them are very good and create a good challenge while also being fun. Like I said before, that's completely a judgment call for the user. I'll have to replay 3's & 7's to remember what it's like. I don't remember thinking too highly of it as a song originally. I haven't played the RB DLC for comparison, but you've given me incentive to see if I agree that it's just not fun to play.

OK. It was Red Octane, who I suppose is pulling the same thing with GH3. At least this time around they actually are releasing some DLC and didn't promise the world. . .



Cheaper doesn't automatically mean better value. I think as a guitar track the RB tracks have less value, even though they are cheaper. If I don't replay the tracks much, then their value plummets to me. I had little desire to replay many of the songs in RB after finishing all but GGaHT on expert. I only replayed the songs I really liked. The reason is that the charts were just too boring on most of the songs, with very long sections of two note chords occasionally alternating to another two note chord. It may be more like what your average guitarist does night in and night out, but it definitely doesn't make for a fun game to me.

I do agree that some charts in GH3 are over the top. Raining Blood is probably the best example. I just think that most of them are very good and create a good challenge while also being fun. Like I said before, that's completely a judgment call for the user. I'll have to replay 3's & 7's to remember what it's like. I don't remember thinking too highly of it as a song originally. I haven't played the RB DLC for comparison, but you've given me incentive to see if I agree that it's just not fun to play.

I see where your coming at and interestingly enough I finally got my 360 back and jumped back into rock band. Got a bunch of DLC including "number of the beast". which is about equal to teh GH3 in difficulty and interesting enough a bit more complicated. IN GH3 they use single button triplets to achieve the main chorus, in RB they uses a a R to R-OR chord combination which isn't all that harder than triplets but seems more interesting to me.

I see where your coming at and interestingly enough I finally got my 360 back and jumped back into rock band. Got a bunch of DLC including "number of the beast". which is about equal to teh GH3 in difficulty and interesting enough a bit more complicated. IN GH3 they use single button triplets to achieve the main chorus, in RB they uses a a R to R-OR chord combination which isn't all that harder than triplets but seems more interesting to me.

My one deficiency in comparing RB to GH is that I haven't played any DLC on RB and barely any on GH. It sounds like some of the DLC is indeed similar to GH2/3 in difficulty, which is good. I just wish they would've included more in the base game like that. The only two songs I thought were really hard were GGaHT and Flirtin' with Disaster. The problem is they're both country rock and I didn't like either of them as songs much. That's the big problem I'm sure Harmonix and Neversoft constantly have to grapple with, which is that music is very subjective. It's got to be very difficult to make one of these games that appeals to enough people that it makes money.

Someday I'll buy some RB DLC I'm sure. I still haven't played the drums on it (only rented it to play guitar). I don't really want to spend $170 on this game, so I'm hoping the standalone drums are cheap enough to make it worthwhile or they release a game+drums bundle at around $100. I know I'm missing a lot of the fun, but I just can't bring myself to drop that much money after I've decided that I don't get much enjoyment out of the singing part and I already beat all but GGaHT on expert and don't see the built in songs having a lot of replay value for me.

Someday I'll buy some RB DLC I'm sure. I still haven't played the drums on it (only rented it to play guitar). I don't really want to spend $170 on this game, so I'm hoping the standalone drums are cheap enough to make it worthwhile or they release a game+drums bundle at around $100. I know I'm missing a lot of the fun, but I just can't bring myself to drop that much money after I've decided that I don't get much enjoyment out of the singing part and I already beat all but GGaHT on expert and don't see the built in songs having a lot of replay value for me.

Stand-along instruments for Rock Band available February 12:

$79.99 for drum kit
$59.99 for guitar

BTW, the drums are the best part of Rock Band.

My one deficiency in comparing RB to GH is that I haven't played any DLC on RB and barely any on GH. It sounds like some of the DLC is indeed similar to GH2/3 in difficulty, which is good. I just wish they would've included more in the base game like that. The only two songs I thought were really hard were GGaHT and Flirtin' with Disaster. The problem is they're both country rock and I didn't like either of them as songs much. That's the big problem I'm sure Harmonix and Neversoft constantly have to grapple with, which is that music is very subjective. It's got to be very difficult to make one of these games that appeals to enough people that it makes money.

Someday I'll buy some RB DLC I'm sure. I still haven't played the drums on it (only rented it to play guitar). I don't really want to spend $170 on this game, so I'm hoping the standalone drums are cheap enough to make it worthwhile or they release a game+drums bundle at around $100. I know I'm missing a lot of the fun, but I just can't bring myself to drop that much money after I've decided that I don't get much enjoyment out of the singing part and I already beat all but GGaHT on expert and don't see the built in songs having a lot of replay value for me.

No it makes sense. I have a friend who I got into guitar hero 1 and since then has enjoyed each one. He also finds the guitar parts a bit too boring and doesn't mind of the wankery of the GH3 charts. He likes the drums on Rock band but not enough to buy the full bundle(he also hates to sing). Gamestop says the drums will be 80 bucks but HMX has yet to make an official statement.

Stand-along instruments for Rock Band available February 12:

$79.99 for drum kit
$59.99 for guitar

BTW, the drums are the best part of Rock Band.

Hmm. Here's holding out hope they release a reasonably priced bundle, then. Buying the game & drums would run me $140, which at least saves $30 over retail, but still a bit high. Especially when the local Sam's Club has a stack of the RB bundles for $150. Maybe by then used copies will be cheaper. I'll probably just have to suck it up and buy the full bundle at some point.

I've heard the drums are great, and I've played them a few times in BB (at least my local one has a retail setup now with the kick pedal & all) and it's a lot of fun for me.

Hmm. Here's holding out hope they release a reasonably priced bundle, then. Buying the game & drums would run me $140, which at least saves $30 over retail, but still a bit high. Especially when the local Sam's Club has a stack of the RB bundles for $150. Maybe by then used copies will be cheaper. I'll probably just have to suck it up and buy the full bundle at some point.

I've heard the drums are great, and I've played them a few times in BB (at least my local one has a retail setup now with the kick pedal & all) and it's a lot of fun for me.
I doubt they'll be releasing any other bundles, so like you said just suck it up if you think it's fun. I got the bundle, and have rarely even played anything but drums...except when running a full band party.

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I doubt they'll be releasing any other bundles, so like you said just suck it up if you think it's fun. I got the bundle, and have rarely even played anything but drums...except when running a full band party.

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nile.com got it

nile.com got it

Didn't see it there. Gonna try Yangtze.com.

You guys joking or what? For those that don't know, it's the Mississippi.

UPDATE: Deal dead.

Glad to see some signs of life from GH3! Hopefully this is a sign that they are ready to move ahead. Boston material is just too good and I welcome the Journey track with, well... you know.:D

DLC vs New Game/Bundle......

I know that the model is here to stay, but I'm not so sure that Weekly DLC is that great an idea as a consumer. Typically, the novelty of a new song wears off pretty quickly and I have yet to play many songs after release date on either GH3 or RB (the other format war :eek:).

Buying a new game would give you more to sink your teeth into, but I'm sure that weekly releases keep the game alive (and the revenue flowing). It does seem like "the same old crackers" now and then.

I could easily support GH3 because as much fun as the drums are in RB, I don't really have the space or the patience to deal with the noise of hitting the pads and don't get me started on that strum bar.

I am a bit confused, about this game. It's the game supposed to come with a wired guitar or with a wireless guitar or are there two bundles?

Sorry for the newb question.

The only official bundle is with the Wireless Les Paul. That of course does not stop retailers from taking the normal disc-only version of the game and bundling it with whatever wired guitar stock that they want to clear out.

The only official bundle is with the Wireless Les Paul. That of course does not stop retailers from taking the normal disc-only version of the game and bundling it with whatever wired guitar stock that they want to clear out.

Not true. Walmart sold (maybe still sells?) an official wired bundle.

Not true. Walmart sold (maybe still sells?) an official wired bundle.

My local Wal-Mart still has a couple of the wired bundles. I'm guessing to help alleviate manufacturing delays and product shortages (and to get rid of the damn things) Wal-Mart made/ordered a shitload of GHIII bundles packed with the old GHII X-Plorer controller.