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IEEE1394
03-29-07, 06:51 PM
Finally, J&R actually has a DVD-recorder with ATSC/NTSC tuner on the shelf. It's also changed from "pre-order" to in-stock status on their web page.

After popping in there and having no joy on several hunts for an ATSC unit, it was starting to look like they'd NEVER get here.

The salesguy had no idea that the EZ17's (Panny) tuner made it any functionally different than any of the other recorders. He's new though. The usual DVD salesguy got moved down to the TV department. Apparently jobs are handed out at that store not by the complexity of the product, but by it's ticket price (it's a commission-based sales staff).

Then again, the guy probably doesn't get a ton of questions on this new model, due to the relatively minor market demand. But for the OTA folks such as myself this is kind of exciting.

Nice to see one these ATSC units finally reaching the market though I'm waiting for one of the DVD/VHS units to arrive.

On an alarming note, three out of the 23 DVD-recorders listed on the J&R site have no tuners at all (one Samsung, two JVC's). Well, no surprise there. But it's a little disheartening that their priced not much differently than tuner models with similar features.

With video displays, the manufacturers went over to including ATSC tuners on many of the sets well before the March 2007 deadline, creating the impression that ATSC tuners don't add a huge amount to the manufacturing cost. I'd guess around $20 to $60. Perhaps this new crop of tunerless DVD recorders reflects the lower unit price, and less financial wiggle room, on recorders as opposed to displays.

suplex
03-29-07, 08:29 PM
IEEE1394:

What a great piece of news this is. I looked it up at O n e C a l l . c o m (it's Model # Panasonic DMR-EZ17K) and it's $198.99.

I know this model doesn't have a HDD in it, but I would only imagine they are on the way. The main thing though is that it's out there, and I think it's a step in the right direction for OverTheAir recording.

Thanks for the heads up,
suplex

*Just found it even cheaper:

http://www.thenerds.net/index.php?page=productpage&affid=8&pn=DMREZ17K

If you go there it's $178.50

biker19
03-30-07, 10:52 AM
With video displays, the manufacturers went over to including ATSC tuners on many of the sets well before the March 2007 deadline, creating the impression that ATSC tuners don't add a huge amount to the manufacturing cost.
I don't know where you're looking but at the local Walmart there's still not a single TV below 25" with an ATSC tuner - as per mandate. I don't believe there were any sub-25" digital tuner TVs anywhere before the mandate. But they did get the Phillips 3505 in stock this week - the first digital tuner DVDr.

Kelson
03-30-07, 02:01 PM
There are a handful of them listed on Circuit City's website. Most of them are flat panel. I think I counted only 3-4 that were CRT (some brand named "Prima"). The analog tuner models still far outnumber them. But is was interesting that most of the analog tuner models were listed as store-pickup only and not available for being shipped. It will take a little time to empty the shelves. Since polls have shown that 66% of the people don't know anything about the digital switch over, they shouldn't be too hard to unload on the unwary.

westgate
03-30-07, 03:08 PM
does the ez17 have an option for 16:9/4:3 recording for dvd-rs???